[05:45] <didrocks> good morning
[07:03] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:25] <zzzharry> hi, i´m really angry. I´ve installed ubuntu 11.10 and i have to say ,, unity is really bad thing for ubuntu". It´s a step back for this great system. Sorry fot it but i feel that. is possible new versions of ubutnu has no unity?
[08:48] <arpu> smspillaz, hello is this an unity bug ? or should i evestigate to oder packages? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/874897
[08:49] <smspillaz> I can look into with with compiz, flash is probably doing something weird
[09:02] <arpu> smspillaz, hmm it test with  new flash 11 and old 10.1 firefox chrome
[09:03] <arpu> thx a lot
[10:30] <om26er> gord, around?
[10:30] <gord> om26er, hey, whats up
[10:30] <om26er> gord, i am fine
[10:31] <om26er> gord, there is a regression in the SRU
[10:31] <om26er> bug 875023
[10:31] <om26er> gord, are you already aware ?
[10:32] <gord> om26er, yeah we i saw you mention that but you pinged out before i could respond :) should be fixed by now (though i don't think we sent a new release to platform yet for the sru)
[10:33] <om26er> gord, the SRU have been uploaded I believe, awaiting ack from Ubuntu SRU team
[10:34] <om26er> maybe didrocks cherry-picked the fix for it
[10:34] <didrocks> there is one pending in -approved
[11:38] <sbte> smspillaz, the iconify bug seems more-or-less fixed in oneiric, so thanks for that (if you're the one who fixed it)
[11:58] <andyrock> JohnLea, what about adding an help label to display settings panel?
[12:00] <andyrock> JohnLea, look here https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82857928/Selection_006.png
[12:00] <andyrock> of coure the label should change when we are not using unity ;)
[12:04] <smspillaz> sbte: :)
[12:05] <sbte> smspillaz, seems like you have to click twice now instead of once to get the window, but that's better than no window at all :P
[12:21] <smspillaz> sbte: yeah, you have to activate the original window and then activate it again and it will unminimize initially minimized windows
[12:23] <sbte> smspillaz, I meant that you have to open the window switcher twice to get it in the window switcher
[12:23] <sbte> it will actually be unminimized after the first time, but it won't appear in the window switcher
[12:59] <Saviq> greyback_: thanks for your work on the launcher, will review soon
[13:01] <JohnLea> andyrock; yes a help label would be helpful ;-)  I'm not sure the second line in the linked image is needed though as the dropdown for selecting which monitor displays the launcher is quite self explanatory  (it makes the launcher drag feature a nice to have rather than a necessity)
[13:12] <andyrock> JohnLea, i had not noticed the dropdown ;)
[13:13] <andyrock> JohnLea, it makes sense ;)
[13:33] <arpu> smspillaz,  do you need more infos on the flash click bug?
[15:36] <kenvandine> tedg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-indicator/+bug/809284
[15:37] <kenvandine> tedg, i think that bug has been fixed since in tp-indicator... but do you think it should stay open for libindicate to protect from that?
[15:38] <kenvandine> tedg, setting the sender to a value that doesn't pass g_utf8_validate
[15:38] <tedg> kenvandine, Uhg, I'm not sure.  It seems like it's something we don't want people doing, but I guess we could give a better error.
[15:39] <kenvandine> yeah... your call
[15:39] <kenvandine> :)
[15:40] <kenvandine> I've fixed the handling of getting the alias since that version, so it should always be valid
[15:40] <kenvandine> but this had been marked as affecting libindicate, so you can change the status for libindicate
[15:52] <tedg> kenvandine, Decided to go with invalid, mostly because the crash was in the validate function... so I couldn't validate it anymore than that...
[15:53] <kenvandine> wfm
[16:33] <and471> is there anyway to hide the debug output of the indicators?
[16:33] <and471> I am using libindicator and would like to see my own application's debug stuff :)
[16:34] <apinheiro> njpatel, hi, one question, I added you as reviewer of those huge a11y branches, should I also add lamalex as usual, or this is enough?
[16:39] <lamalex> apinheiro, feel free to add me an ill take a look
[16:41] <apinheiro> lamalex, ok thanks
[16:41] <apinheiro> but as I said, first one is huge ;), sorry
[17:00] <kenvandine> Trevinho, thx for the gtk patch, i merged it and uploaded it for an SRU
[17:40]  * jussi waves
[17:41] <jussi> anyone awake atm?
[18:12] <jussi> yer all boring I tells ye! :D
[18:13] <greyback> jussi: are not
[18:13] <jussi> greyback: :)
[18:14] <greyback> jussi: :P
[18:14] <jussi> greyback: are you actively working on ayatana?
[18:15] <greyback> jussi: I work on Unity2D. I try to implement the vision of the ayatana team.
[18:15] <jussi> ahh, nice
[18:16] <greyback> jussi: You using Unity?
[18:16] <jussi> greyback: sometimes, Im kurrently on KDE :D
[18:17] <greyback> jussi: ok, was just curious
[18:18] <jussi> greyback: I like unity, but the lack of configurability and several annoying bugs just got too much for me (I did a 30 day trial coming from kde)
[18:20] <greyback> jussi: understood. Your is not a uncommon opinion. Hopefully the bugs have been squashed since. It's good that you gave it a fair try
[18:22] <jussi> greyback: yeah, one of the bugs your dev and I have differing opinions (thats fine, it still needs to be fixed in some way, so hopefully it gets sorted in some way or another), and the lack of configurability really hit me (coming from kde, what can I say)
[18:23] <greyback> jussi: yeah, kde has spoiled you in that respect :)
[18:24] <greyback> jussi: I like that things are set out "just-so" - I spend much less time fiddling to get things right, and just get on with my work
[18:25] <greyback> jussi: but then, I'm hardly unbiased ;)
[18:25] <jussi> hehe
[18:26] <jussi> greyback: one thing I found hard to get used to was all the stuff that was hiding all the time. (Im not a fan of mouseovers, for me they slow things down - its kind of like those phones where you have to hold a key down to unlock)
[18:27] <jussi> but let me say this, overall the interface has a very good look and feel, and many of the items work really nice.
[18:29] <greyback> jussi: good point on the hiding stuff. I hope that the config to stop the launcher (bar down left of screen) hiding becomes easier to find.
[18:31] <greyback> jussi: I'm not hugely fanatical about the workings of the menubar for a maximised window (hiding window buttons). If I have one window maximised, and another window in front, I keep trying to click the panel to give focus to the maximised window
[18:32] <greyback> But much work is done on consistency, layout and design, and I do like the improvements. The polish is great.
[18:34] <jussi> greyback: also, one small thing that I notice that you may want to pick up on:  the placement of windows when opened - for example it opens in the top left corner, behind the launcher. and then you need to wait for the launcher to disappear before you can do/see stuff...
[18:36] <greyback> jussi: yep, common issue that. Thanks tho
[18:36] <jussi> :)
[18:37] <jussi> ooh, one strange thing - dont know if this is you or I need to talk to the kubuntu guys, but when I shutdown now, I get a breif flash of unity/gnome running when I shut down kde... is this normal?
[18:39] <greyback> jussi: strange! Probably a Kubuntu thing, but if you've mixed Unity & KDE on the same machine, heaven knows what's going on! In Compiz, is the Unity plugin on?
[18:39] <jussi> no, we dont use compiz in kde (kwin does that)
[18:40] <jussi> although nautilus is running...
[18:40] <jussi> I wonder if tats the issue...
[18:40]  * jussi kills
[18:40] <greyback> jussi: oh of course, sorry.
[18:40] <greyback> jussi: been a long time since i used KDE
[18:41] <jussi> well bed time now... talk to you again sometime.
[18:41] <jussi> lets see if it does same now Ive killed nautilus
[18:41] <greyback> jussi: nice chatting, good night!
[20:11] <slydawg> anyone in this room?
[22:46] <rob_> Hi folks, hoping you can help me out.
[22:47] <rob_> I may have the wrong channel, if so, please point me in the right direction.
[22:47] <rob_> I have a 5.1 onboard soundcard, channelled through the standard three outputs at the back "Mic / Out / Line Out"
[22:47] <rob_> And a 5.1 setup.
[22:47] <rob_> I've tried editing the etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[22:47] <rob_> and looking at the ALSA mixer through the terminal
[22:47] <rob_> but to no avail.
[23:44] <almufadado> hi there