/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/17/#kubuntu-devel.txt

rbelemapachelogger, i'm building the kubuntu-mobile image :-D02:09
rbelemi'm going to bed02:10
rbelemtomorrow lets see the results02:10
Tm_Tuh, is upgrade to Oneiric intended to remove kpackagekit?08:40
Tm_Tah, is08:45
Riddellmuon is there instead08:50
apacheloggerI think muon is unable to install mp3 support09:57
apacheloggeryeah, it does not work09:58
apacheloggerinstalls all sorts of rubbish, just not fluendo or ffmpeg09:58
Riddellmm, that's not good10:01
apacheloggeryofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/+bug/87604510:01
ubottuUbuntu bug 876045 in kdepimlibs (Ubuntu) "package libakonadi-contact4 4:4.7.2+git111007-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]10:01
apacheloggerneeds looking into10:02
apacheloggermight just be a package not yet build issue, but who knows10:02
apacheloggerRiddell: supposedly jon the taco needs poking10:03
debfxapachelogger: what does it install?10:08
apacheloggera lot of stuff10:09
debfxmp3 playback works fine for me with only -bad and -ugly installed10:09
apacheloggerInstall: libsoundtouch0:amd64 (1.6.0-2, automatic), libts-0.0-0:amd64 (1.0-9, automatic), libzbar0:amd64 (0.10+doc-7, automatic), libflite1:amd64 (1.4-release-2, automatic), gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:amd64 (0.10.22-2ubuntu4), libfftw3-3:amd64 (3.2.2-1ubuntu2, automatic), libslv2-9:amd64 (0.6.6-9, automatic), libdirectfb-1.2-9:amd64 (1.2.10.0-4ubuntu3, automatic), libgme0:amd64 (0.5.5-2, automatic), freepats:amd64 (20060219-1), 10:09
apacheloggerlibwildmidi1:amd64 (0.2.3.4-1, automatic), libcdaudio1:amd64 (0.99.12p2-10, automatic), libmimic0:amd64 (1.0.4-2.1, automatic), tsconf:amd64 (1.0-9, automatic), librsvg2-2:amd64 (2.34.1-2, automatic), libmusicbrainz4c2a:amd64 (2.1.5-6, automatic), libcelt0-0:amd64 (0.7.1-1, automatic), libofa0:amd64 (0.9.3-3.1, automatic), libmms0:amd64 (0.6.2-2, automatic)10:09
apacheloggerdebfx: I think the algo is fckd10:10
apacheloggerIIRC it should install fluendo as first choie10:10
apachelogger+c10:10
apacheloggerif that is not possible -> ffmpeg -> if that is not possible -> ugly10:10
debfxor the package metadata is wrong10:10
apachelogger*shrug*10:11
debfxbut how would it know which package is preferred?10:11
ulyssespackages needs a built-in AI10:12
apacheloggerdebfx: hardcode10:15
debfxhm for me the codec installer doesn't even pop up10:26
debfxbut shouldn't ffmpeg be able to play audio/x-ac3?10:26
apacheloggerdebfx: ffmpeg is able to play amost everything10:43
debfxapparently the ac3 decoder has been disabled because it's broken10:47
debfxapachelogger: any idea how to debug the codec-installer-isn't-called problem?10:48
apacheloggerdebfx: it is not called?10:48
apacheloggerPHONON_GST_DEBUG=510:48
apacheloggerand if that does not help PHONON_GST_GST_DEBUG=310:48
debfxit doesn't seem to complain about a missing codec10:54
debfx"gst-launch playbin" does however10:55
apacheloggerrbelem: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds/downloads/211:45
ghostcubehi folks, shutdown doesnt still work, even with the new commandline11:50
droidslayer\o12:10
Quintasanwendar: \o/ I'm going to pick up the Transformer :)12:15
droidslayerI got mine today \o/12:16
nigelbdroidslayer: transformer?12:16
droidslayerYup12:16
ulyssesOptimus Prime?12:16
nigelbtablet?12:16
nigelbphone?12:16
droidslayerTablet12:16
Quintasandroidslayer: Where be pics of Kubantoo on it?12:17
droidslayerCant quite figure how to autocomplete irc nicks on this thing12:17
Quintasanuse the Search button12:18
Quintasandurrr12:18
nigelbQuintasan: Your at the google thing as well?12:18
nigelb*you're12:18
Quintasannigelb: Nah, I'll be going to pick up mine in one hour or so12:18
QuintasanInstalling Kubantoo right away12:18
Quintasan:P12:18
nigelbQuintasan: No, I mean, are you at SF?12:18
QuintasanAh, no12:18
nigelbPick up from where?12:18
nigelb:)12:18
QuintasanWrocław12:19
droidslayerQuintasan: will investigate tomorrow, currently quite tired from the journey12:19
QuintasanThere is no such thing as "too tired" when working with shiny new hardware"12:19
nigelbNice12:19
nigelbQuintasan++12:19
droidslayerJust lying in the bed right now12:19
nigelbGood point.12:19
droidslayerSure there is12:20
nigelbBesides, its morning12:20
QuintasanIt means you are doing it wrong droidslayer 12:20
Quintasan:P12:20
nigelbNot like you're going to sleep anyway.12:20
droidslayerHappens when you take a 27 hour flight12:20
nigelbhaha12:20
Quintasan27 hours?! I would have upgraded and broke Kubantoo in that time12:20
droidslayerDid not have transformer on the flight 12:21
droidslayerMight as well get up and start hacking in 10 minutes12:21
QuintasanThat's right, you are getting on the right track12:22
droidslayerSince i can't sleep12:22
nigelbdroidslayer: see PM :)12:22
QuintasanNow execute the action and post pics so we can comment12:22
droidslayerQuintasan: hwh12:25
droidslayerHer deep12:26
droidslayerFffffffuuuuuuuuuu12:26
droidslayerNvm me12:26
QuintasanWhat the...12:26
droidslayerQuintasan: switched keyboard layouts, typos everywhere along with auto complete12:27
Quintasandroidslayer: PROTIP: use Thumb Keyboard12:27
Quintasanor dock12:27
droidslayerDidn't get a dock12:27
droidslayerJust the tablet12:27
QuintasanThumb Keyboard then12:28
Quintasanor SwiftKeyboard X12:28
QuintasanThe stock one is, ewww12:28
Quintasanor wait me generate maliit package12:28
Quintasan:P12:28
droidslayerCan has apk?  :-P 12:29
apacheloggerwth is bulldog?12:29
droidslayerHey apachelogger 12:30
apacheloggerdroidslayer: do we have kubuntu running yet?12:30
apacheloggeranyone with a symbian^3 phone around?12:30
droidslayerapachelogger: just getting started, was sleeping earlier12:30
Quintasanapachelogger: >implying anyone cares about new silly symbian12:31
apacheloggeryour definition of new is very weird I might say12:31
Quintasans/new//12:31
kubotuQuintasan meant: "apachelogger: >implying anyone cares about  silly symbian"12:31
* apachelogger does12:31
QuintasanHave fun then :D12:32
Quintasandroidslayer: check query12:32
Quintasanapachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX512:33
QuintasanWe might have more luck with EGL now12:33
droidslayerBbiab12:34
apacheloggerwhat is egl anyway12:34
Quintasanapachelogger: OpenGL ES 2.0 WORKING on i.MX board12:35
apacheloggerthat is what egl is?12:35
* apachelogger points out that gles was working all along, we just didn't have drivers :P12:35
QuintasanThat's what I'm talking about, stop nitpicking pls12:36
* apachelogger will nit pick as much as he pleases after Quintasan having badmouthed poor ol symbian12:38
droidslayerapachelogger: you never got back to me about arm packages for plasma active12:38
apacheloggeron a related note: my imx i empires away right now12:38
apacheloggerand I'll not get to touch it indecently for at least 2 weeks12:38
apacheloggerdroidslayer: sure I did12:39
droidslayerYou ... did? Uh ... OK .... I'll look at my quassel backlogs then12:39
apacheloggeryeah12:41
apacheloggerI said something like 'rbelem is awesome and likes to have packages, so he will get me packages;12:42
apacheloggers/;/'/12:42
kubotuapachelogger meant: "I said something like 'rbelem is awesome and likes to have packages, so he will get me packages'"12:42
droidslayerOK12:43
apacheloggerwhat I like best about symbian is the sleeping screen12:43
apacheloggermakes it much less boring12:43
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rbelemimage build failed :-/13:40
shadeslayerrbelem: what do you use to generate rootfs ?13:43
shadeslayerfor ARM devices13:43
shadeslayer( I'm using rootstock right now, but it seems like ubuntu will switch to live-build in the Precise cycle )13:43
rbelemforgot to upload kubuntu-mobile-meta :-P13:44
rbelemshadeslayer, live build13:44
rbelemshadeslayer, https://wiki.linaro.org/LiveHelper/Hacking?highlight=%28live-build%2913:44
rbelemshadeslayer, live build is really nice13:45
shadeslayerrbelem: the man pages are insanely long13:45
rbelemshadeslayer, together with germinate it is really powerful13:45
rbelemshadeslayer, thats true13:45
rbelemshadeslayer, i didnt look at this13:46
rbelemshadeslayer, just the wiki page13:46
shadeslayerok, I'm going through that13:46
rbelemshadeslayer, grab the kubuntu-mobile-meta from the active ppa instead of linaro meta13:47
shadeslayerrbelem: I want ARM packages :P13:49
shadeslayeri386 and amd64 won't do it13:50
rbelemshadeslayer, i will ask rsalveti to build them13:50
shadeslayerplease do :)13:50
rbelemshadeslayer, one minute13:50
rbelem:-)13:50
shadeslayeruhm, Did ScottK leave us or something?13:51
rbelemshadeslayer, i think so :'(13:52
shadeslayer:(13:52
* shadeslayer hasn't seen any mails from hism regarding thi13:52
* shadeslayer hasn't seen any mails from him regarding this13:53
shadeslayerrbelem: what does the "packages" variable do?14:04
shadeslayerdefine packages to be seeded?14:04
shadeslayer( in lp:~linaro-maintainers/linaro/live-helper.config.oneiric.ubuntu-desktop conf_create.sh )14:04
eMyllerhi all14:11
shadeslayerhey14:11
shadeslayerOK, I've got to get ready now, cya in a bit14:12
wendarQuintasan: awesome! :)14:14
eMyllerdude14:18
eMyllerkde 4.7.2 is REQUIRED on oneiric :S14:19
yofelo/14:47
yofelshadeslayer: Scott sent a mail to ubuntu-devel ML that he's taking a vacation of undefined length14:49
yofeleMyller: sorry, all of us are either busy and/or a bit tired...14:49
* yofel looks what's left14:50
eMylleryofel: i know. that applies to me as well.14:50
eMyllerthat was a comment, not a criticism... i'm on the dev boat too.14:52
yofelshadeslayer: do you know anything about akonadi's postgres backend?14:55
yofelre: you mail inbox14:55
shadeslayeryofel: nope, but I'll have a go at it once I get some time later today15:18
shadeslayerand weird, I'm subscribed to ubuntu devel, and I didn't get that 15:19
yofelshadeslayer: ok, so far it seems like akonadi is running 'postgres', but those options are meant for 'pg_ctl'15:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: how is the transformer?15:32
yofelbtw. are we supposed to upload 4.7.2 to precise before the SRU is done?15:32
Riddellyofel: yes, preferably15:33
yofelok15:33
* yofel goes uploading kdelibs15:33
debfxwhy not just copy them from oneirc-updates?15:34
yofelhow?15:34
yofelshadeslayer: if you want to continue, the postgres stuff in in akonadi server/src/storage/dbconfigpostgresql.cpp - haven't really figued out where it reads mServerPath from15:35
debfxan archive admin can do that15:35
yofels/in in/is in/15:35
kubotuyofel meant: "shadeslayer: if you want to continue, the postgres stuff is in akonadi server/src/storage/dbconfigpostgresql.cpp - haven't really figued out where it reads mServerPath from"15:35
yofelmeaning Riddell ;)15:35
Quintasanapachelogger: I just picked up mah transformer15:37
yofelQuintasan: where did you get a transformer from?15:38
QuintasanWill dump stock partition first and then attempt some Kubantoo installation15:38
Quintasanyofel: I picked it up in Wrocław. wendar ordered it for me15:39
* yofel is still tablet-less -.-15:39
Quintasanwendar: Yeah, so I went to pick it up, it's working (Android boots). Thanks :)15:40
QuintasanWill post more pics when I get Kubantoo booting15:41
* Quintasan goes off to enjoy his pizza15:41
rbelemshadeslayer, it should be kubuntu-mobile i guess15:48
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) New upstream release (LP: #872506)15:51
apacheloggerQuintasan: harrharrr15:53
apacheloggerI suppose everyone got the optimus prime now ^^15:54
apacheloggerwendar: thanks again for setting this up and getting deployment sorted :)15:54
rbelemshadeslayer, apachelogger, rsalveti will send the packages for build today night -030016:09
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgeography] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)16:09
apacheloggerrbelem: awesum16:20
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) Add libxxf86vm-dev to build-deps16:27
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apacheloggerrbelem: https://picasaweb.google.com/101588423559652288894/UDSHarmattan16:42
apacheloggerbtw, I fixed the harmattan boost stuff16:42
apacheloggerone needs to export main :D16:43
shadeslayerrbelem: awesome16:49
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CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmplot] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)17:00
markeyso here is a clear regression I found in 11.10: if you install the NVidia binary driver, python-gtk2 is not installed17:03
markeymaking making nvidia-settings fail to write any config17:03
markeyI'm too busy to make a bug report, is it OK to report it just here? maybe you can create a report internally17:03
markeyRiddell: ^17:04
macomarkey: do you know what the package is for that nvidia binary driver?17:09
markeymaco: "python-gtk2". the dependency seems to be missing17:10
macono no i mean, what is the nvidia package?17:10
markeyfor the user it's hard to detect the problem, unless you start it from the terminal17:10
yofelmarkey: the settings are in 'nvidia-settings'17:10
yofeler17:10
yofelmaco: ^17:10
macook17:10
macothanks17:10
markeythanks folks :)17:11
macoim not on oneiric, but i see multiple nvidia drivers in the repos so didnt know which package 17:11
markeyI've installed the recommended one17:11
macohmm yeah there's rather a lack of gui toolkits in teh lsit for something marked as an x11 app17:12
yofelwhich one that is depends on your card... (but usually it's nvidia-current)17:12
markeyit's a Quattro from a ThinkPad W51017:12
yofelah, probably about the same as in my T510 I guess17:13
markeybtw, some work mates are telling me that they have huge issues with the ThinkPad W520 (but still in 11.04). it works for others, I will check what the actual issue is17:13
markeyapachelogger: ^ one of the reasons why we really need a custom developer Kubuntu image from you17:13
markeywe're losing days of developer time due to issues like those17:14
* maco throws package at pbuilder17:14
markeyI made Kubuntu the standard developer OS at Nokia Ulm :)17:15
yofel\o/17:15
macomarkey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/72145317:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 721453 in nvidia-settings (Ubuntu) "nvidia-settings should depend on pkg-config and python-gtk" [Undecided,New]17:15
macothat bug suggests there are two missing dependencies. the other was ok for you?17:16
markeyand apachelogger will likely work for us (part time), creating a dev distro, maintaining .deb packages and .rpm17:16
markeymaco: after installing python-gtk2, everything was fine17:17
macook17:17
wendarapachelogger: glad to help Kubuntu's advances :)17:22
wendarQuintasan: let me know if you need me to dig up the instructions for blatting over Android with Ubuntu. it's only a hack build script that pulls in appropriate drivers, but might be a useful starting point17:23
macohmm now who do i pester to sponsor that17:38
macohey, whichayall can upload to main?17:41
* apachelogger points at the as usual absent jon the taco17:54
rbelemapachelogger, nice :-)17:54
rbelemapachelogger, are you going to uds, btw?17:55
apacheloggernope17:55
* yofel points at apachelogger17:55
rbelemapachelogger, why not :'(17:55
apacheloggerrbelem: too much going on in my life17:59
apacheloggerlike mobile apps17:59
apacheloggerrbelem: https://plus.google.com/photos/101588423559652288894/albums/566452166201342076917:59
rbelemapachelogger, awesome :-D which device is that?18:01
apachelogger70118:01
macomarkey: its being handled18:07
JillySo who needs development help?18:07
markeymaco: thanks18:07
macoi submitted a patch which has been committed. and now the sponsor is recommitting the fix because DOH i modified the control instead of control.in18:07
macoi cant figure out WHY ubuntu's version of the package has a control.in when debian's doesnt, but go figure18:08
ghostcubedebfx: ping  the "/sbin/shutdown -h -P now"  doesnt shutdown and poweroff  i dont need to set the " or do i ?18:10
ghostcubebtw not only kubuntu is effekted its in xubuntu too18:11
debfxghostcube: no, without the "18:11
ghostcubeok then i got it like i should not working so far18:11
debfxwhich display manager does xubuntu use?18:12
ghostcubexfce18:12
yofeldebfx: in oneiric ligthdm it seems18:12
ghostcubemaybe this is a kernel bug?18:13
ghostcubeit worked fine till 3.x18:13
debfxghostcube: does the system shutdown when you run "sudo /sbin/shutdown -h -P now" manually (make sure to save all documents before doing so)18:13
ghostcubeneed to check ill do now bbiab18:13
yofelJilly: if you're interested in kubuntu development, see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development - it describes what fields of work we have18:14
eMyllerwhat's the deal with audio output? anyone experiencing problems on intel boards?18:18
BarkingFisheMyller, are you looking for help with your audio?18:20
eMyllerno, trying to report a problem18:20
Peace-guys multiple users are saying this http://www.kdenlive.org/forum/ubuntu-1110-wont-run-kdenlive-mlts-sdl-module-not-found18:20
Peace-a bug of kdenlive that means you can't start it ...18:20
eMylleruh, i see that there's a new channel. "speaker". it's hidden and disabled by default. :(18:20
ghostcubedebfx: yes manually it works18:21
debfxok, then it's not a kernel bug18:22
BarkingFisheMyller, if you're reporting bugs with stuff, the best place to do this is to go to the Launchpad and either ask a question, or report the bug there18:22
macomarkey: anyway, re-fixed :P18:23
BarkingFishif it's KDE related, you report at http://bugs.kde.org - for Kubuntu & related stuff, it's https://bugs.launchpad.net18:23
eMyllerBarkingFish: i know where to report bugs. i just wanna make sure it's not just me before posting something.18:23
BarkingFishOk then, go there and try a search of the bugs to see if anyone else has your issue :)18:24
ghostcubedebfx: yep18:24
apacheloggerPeace-: so much to read -.-18:24
apacheloggersomeone fix kdenlive18:24
* apachelogger continues removing visual studio bits18:24
Peace-apachelogger: there is a ppa version that works18:24
BarkingFishIf you don't find anything after the search, you should go ahead and file a bug on it, eMyller 18:24
Peace-apachelogger: this is the error Kicks out an Fatal error "MLT's SDL module not found". => you can't use kdenlive 18:25
Peace-sunab repo has a version that works18:25
apacheloggerwell, sounds like mlt was built without sdl18:26
* yofel tries to rebuild kdenlive18:26
Peace-apachelogger: it's the version of kubuntu repo18:26
eMyllerBarkingFish: you know, there's just 5 days oneiric was launched. the amount of useful bug reports on launchpad might be little yet.18:26
eMyllerBarkingFish: would you just confirm what's happening? it's simpler. :)18:27
apachelogger-rw-r--r-- root/root     38100 2011-09-20 22:01 ./usr/lib/mlt/libmltsdl.so18:27
apacheloggerPeace-: is there any report about this appearing on a new install?18:27
BarkingFisheMyller, I can't confirm what's happening if I have no information about it.  This is why I'm directing you to look for bug reports about it :)18:27
Peace-apachelogger: i have 2 users here 18:28
Peace-apachelogger: your kdnelive is running fine?18:28
apacheloggerbecause either the users there have broken the system by using unsupported PPAs before the upgrade OR there is indeed something wrong with the package, but that would be easy to check18:28
yofelPeace-: doesn't work here - rebuilding right now18:28
apacheloggerPeace-: I am not in linux right now18:28
Peace-oh18:28
apacheloggeryofel: might be a symbol issue18:28
apacheloggermaybe someone thought it bo e a good idea to change sdl around after september 20 :P18:29
yofelpoint proven18:29
yofelrebuild fixed it18:29
yofeldebfx: can you SRU a rebuild of kdenlive?18:29
yofelif you've got time18:30
* yofel uploads a rebuilt to the PPA in the meanwhile18:30
yofel*rebuild18:30
yofelhm, wait18:31
yofelbah, needs newer snapshot18:37
Peace-yofel: ppa?18:37
yofelPeace-: nvm that18:37
yofelPeace-: kdenlive 0.8+svn5945-1 that was synced to precise works, needs to be backported or someone to figure out how to SRU the MLT fix18:38
JillyOh do you guys use Ruby often? 18:41
yofelapachelogger likes using ruby18:41
JillyI'm not real familiar?but it's something I've been wanting to learn.  18:42
yofelPeace-: there's debian bug 636933 on the mlt issue18:42
ubottuDebian bug 636933 in kdenlive "kdenlive: Kdenlive will not start complaining of missing "MLT SDL module not found"." [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/63693318:42
Peace-yofel: yo18:43
JillyOMG, my cat is drinking my coffee?time for a new cup! :) 18:46
Peace-Jilly: hahahahaa18:47
JillySo mostly it's c++ and then I assume you ultimately compile ruby?18:48
yofelif we ever write code here it's usually c++ or python, some ruby in scripts. Not that we have many apps we write ourselves. Most of the coding goes to KDE18:49
JillyOh?so you guys pretty much just package the kde stuff to work with ubuntu?18:50
yofelJilly: yeah, muon would be an exception I guess18:51
Peace-i don't like muon , it seems buggy18:52
yofelmuon isn't IMO, polkit-kde is though18:54
Peace-kpackagekit worked fine 18:54
QuintasanPeace-: Use Apper then18:55
JillyI often just use apt-get but?haven't used the kde package managers.18:55
QuintasanWe removed KPK PRECISELY because it's buggy :P18:55
Peace-LOL18:55
QuintasanPrecise is going to be soooo precise18:56
Peace-if i search package with muon it doesn't find 18:56
Peace-it18:56
Peace-kpakcage kit was better on searching 18:57
Peace-btw i use apt-get too18:57
yofelPeace-: I'll put the new version of kdenlive into ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa and request a backport to oneiric-backports. I have neither time nor enough knowledge of kdenlive code to figure out which svn commit fixed the issue18:57
apacheloggerJilly: actually those of us who code, do it in KDE18:57
QuintasanPeace-: KPK was renamed to Apper. We already have Apper in oneiric18:58
Peace-yofel: :)18:58
QuintasanThank ximion18:58
Quintasanfor that18:58
Peace-ya? Quintasani am going to prove apper then18:58
yofeland close bug 86318618:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 863186 in kdenlive (Ubuntu) "[Oneiric] Kdenlive configuration vizard doesn't founding MLT SDK" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86318618:58
apacheloggeryofel: you fix kdenlive?18:58
yofelapachelogger: it's fixed in precise18:59
apacheloggerthat won't help users much18:59
yofelI'll put it into the PPA, and request a backport. That's all *I* can do18:59
yofelfeel free to bisect kdenlive svn for the fix18:59
apacheloggernah18:59
apacheloggerwe should be able to get super duper SRU exception18:59
Jillyapachelogger: cool?I'll take a look at the KDE stuff too.  19:00
apachelogger"it is broken, can't get much worse than this"19:00
yofelwell true, I'll poke pitti if we can SRU utterly broken software19:00
apacheloggeryofel: I'll even sing a song for you19:00
yofellol19:00
yofelstop, don't! :P19:00
* Quintasan wonders who will be getting our packages through archive when Scott is gone19:00
* Quintasan hand apachelogger some liquior19:00
* BarkingFish hands out the ear defenders to yofel and anyone else who wants them19:00
Quintasanhands over*19:00
yofelQuintasan: you're forgetting that Riddell comes back19:00
QuintasanAh yes19:01
QuintasanSilly me19:01
apacheloggersoft yofi, warm yofi, little ball of code, happy yofi, sleepy yofi, purr purr purr19:01
QuintasanDURR19:01
BarkingFish0.o19:01
yofelrofl19:01
JillyOkie?have to go for a while?should be back later today. :) 19:01
DarkwingAlso, Riddle and I are sitting down for some training during UDS so I can help more with packaging and ISO testing.19:01
* apachelogger should have become a singer19:01
Darkwinga singer? 19:01
* Quintasan joins in on the Darkwing packaging training in return for some docs writing skills19:02
BarkingFishBefore I go file *another* bug, anyone on Oneiric, can you tell me if you're having problems with Audio notifications from things like Network Manager and stuff?19:02
apacheloggerICE-O testing19:02
Peace-:) Quintasan search codec on apper and on muon  you will se the difference19:02
DarkwingQuintasan: deal!19:02
QuintasanBarkingFish: Not really, works here19:02
apacheloggerQuintasan, Darkwing: first you must install my uds app19:02
apacheloggersheytan: ping19:02
apacheloggersheytan: pink19:02
Darkwingapachelogger: UDS app?19:02
apacheloggersheytan: pling19:02
Quintasanapachelogger: LINGS19:02
apacheloggerDarkwing: see google pluzzzz19:03
apacheloggerand facelook19:03
apacheloggerQuintasan: look the intarwebs you silly person you19:03
BarkingFishQuintasan, ah. I set 4 audio notifications on network manager, to alert me on network trying to connect, network connection successful, connection failure, and low signal strength.19:03
apacheloggerwhat we need is a kitty sound theme19:03
BarkingFishThey're all on, my event sounds are at max, and none of them work.  They play out if I play them in the Notifications KCM, but not on the actual widget19:03
Quintasan:/19:04
apacheloggerbulldog98: you must make kitty event sound theme for fluffies19:04
Quintasanapachelogger: links pls19:04
* Quintasan be too lazy19:04
apacheloggerQuintasan: projects.developer.nokia.com/uds19:04
sheytanapachelogger: yellow!19:04
Darkwingapachelogger: any plans to port to Android? :P:P19:04
apacheloggersheytan: do you have the illustrator by adobe?19:04
apacheloggerDarkwing: if you make i19:04
apacheloggert19:04
apacheloggeror Quintasan19:04
apacheloggeractually with hardcoded non-integrated theme it would not be much effort 19:04
sheytanapachelogger: nope, what for?19:05
bulldog98apachelogger: give me an pad to note that on the fluffy server19:05
apacheloggersheytan: I need a SVG icon for symbian and the inkscape makes incompatible svg 19:05
apacheloggerso crappy icon comes out of it19:05
sheytanapachelogger: maybe it's simbain that 'reads' the svg wrong? :)19:06
sheytani don't think inkscape makes crappy stuff at all19:06
BarkingFishapachelogger, how you exporting? as an inkscape SVG or a plain SVG?19:06
BarkingFishYou may want to export it as a Plain SVG, since I know the inkscape SVG's sometimes have problems.  Even on Wikipedia, we have the same issue - export as Plain, it's fine - as an Inkscape SVG it's all to pot.19:08
yofelDarkwing: yay! 4.8 packaging will be fun, make sure not to miss it ;)19:08
bulldog98yofel: ??19:08
apacheloggerbulldog98: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/uds.sis you be trying this19:08
yofelbulldog98: even more splits?19:08
Darkwingyofel: I just need some training. :)19:08
bulldog98yofel: yeah that’s nice :)19:09
yofelbut no kdegames :(19:09
apacheloggerBarkingFish: nah, that is not the problem ... the problem is that symbian itself uses svgtiny, so the svg gets converted to that and if the svg is using more features than svgt can do it will come out all wrong19:09
yofelalthough they're just discussing that19:09
DarkwingHmmz... Google IO, to go or not to go....19:10
apacheloggersheytan: symbian does svgt and considering all other icons come out wrong I'd refrain from putting the blame on symbian's svgt implementation :P19:10
apacheloggerDarkwing: go, then give the CEO a hug19:11
Quintasanapachelogger: But this shit is symbian, why the hell I would install it?19:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: this shit is qt you shit19:11
Quintasan>uds_12.04.0_armel.deb ?19:11
apacheloggeron a related note19:11
Quintasandis?19:11
* apachelogger points out that symbian aint using deb19:11
QuintasanLet me get Kubantoo on my tablets first19:12
bulldog98Quintasan: N919:12
* apachelogger points out that meego harmattan is using deb, hence the meego next to the download link :P19:12
Quintasanbulldog98: N9 what?19:12
apacheloggerhowever the sexxi code contains an ugly proto for android19:12
apacheloggerno idea if it still works though19:12
DarkwingHmmz, this means I'll need to build an Android Devel Environment on my lappy again.19:12
DarkwingThere goes half my hard drive.19:13
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/Ubuntu%20Developer%20Summit-debug.apk19:13
* apachelogger should have shaved this morning19:13
DarkwingI need to shave... Long hair AND a beard at UDS would put people into shock.19:13
apacheloggerI am suffering from itchy beardd !!!!119:13
apacheloggerDarkwing: yeah, kubuntu people must be good looking, doon't you know19:14
apacheloggerno long hair and no beards19:14
apacheloggeryou may have wire coming out your ears though19:14
apacheloggerit is a sign of professionalism19:14
Darkwingapachelogger: I'm NOT cutting my hair.19:14
Darkwing:P:P19:14
apacheloggerat least wear a big hat then :P19:15
QuintasanDarkwing: long hair and beard are standards :P19:15
Darkwingapachelogger: I was going to pick up a Fezz for both of us then... You decided not to come. :P19:16
QuintasanDarkwing: also, if you are too lazy to shave, pick up a labcoat and wear it19:16
Quintasangives you the mad scientist look19:17
DarkwingQuintasan: YES! Lap coat or, santa clause outfit. :D19:17
apacheloggerhold on19:17
apacheloggerwear the coat for the beard?19:17
Darkwings/lap/lab/19:17
kubotuDarkwing: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"19:17
apacheloggerI imagine that would indeed make you look mad19:17
QuintasanDarkwing: That's precisely why I bought a labcoat19:17
apacheloggeralso a lap coat would support that appearance19:17
yofelapachelogger: mind taking a look at bug 87503419:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 875034 in Kubuntu PPA "Pulseaudio KDE integration broken with 4.7.2 updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87503419:17
QuintasanGoddamnlogger19:18
Darkwingapachelogger: It force closes when it looks for "Extra Libraries"19:18
QuintasanDarkwing: One needs the Qt libs installed I presume19:18
QuintasanBy this Necessitius thigy I believe19:18
apacheloggeryofel: yeah, you no built with pulse19:18
DarkwingYeah, I installed those... I'll run it again.19:18
apacheloggerwell19:19
apacheloggerit should install those from the marketier19:19
apacheloggerif you have one19:19
apacheloggerotherwise I'd imagine that it fall apart19:19
Quintasanapachelogger: U ain't comming to uds?19:20
* apachelogger waves fist because of silly ext4 compatibility with windows and repoooops19:20
apacheloggerno19:20
Quintasanapachelogger: use FSProxy for sane ext4 under Wincrap19:20
apacheloggerI got invited to a white party19:20
QuintasanDarkwing: You have a Fezz?19:20
DarkwingQuintasan: No, I was going to buy one for UDS.19:21
QuintasanDarkwing: Once I even brought stepmania mat but apachelogger did not want to dance :/19:23
apacheloggerare you my mummy?19:24
QuintasanCan't really recall seeing a small apachelogger19:25
Quintasan;P19:25
Quintasanapachelogger: ah btw. do we want maliit in Precise?19:26
DarkwingIt just dawned on me... Halloween will be while we are at UDS :D19:28
QuintasanDarkwing: Hmm, yeah. It will be my first time seeing proper Halloween19:29
DarkwingQuintasan: :D Should be fun.19:30
QuintasanKids in Poland want to bring Halloween to our tradition but ppl are somehow resistant to the idea :P19:31
Darkwinghehehe, yeah, well... It was forbidden for me as a kid because my family was very conservitive and religious.19:32
apacheloggerI once wanted to introduce prnmas to the austrian people, but they did not like it *fist wave*19:32
DarkwingAnyone know of a wiki page for flight information like there was for N?19:33
* Darkwing pauses... 19:34
apacheloggerI believe it got replaced by the webform thing19:35
DarkwingWell, this is interesting for a LTS release... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-python-versions19:35
* yofel would like python319:36
* apachelogger likes it too19:36
yofelwould eliminate unicode crashes in bzr -.-19:37
apacheloggerperfect opportunit to port the last remaining bits of pyth0rn to a sane language19:37
apacheloggerwoohooo19:37
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Quintasan_apachelogger: I just got ur Android UDS app to work20:56
Quintasan_is it supposed to do something except for displaying the list of sessions?20:56
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apacheloggerQuintasan: do u expect it to?21:11
Quintasanyup21:13
Quintasanapachelogger: like, sorting sessions by day, room, track21:14
Quintasanmark me schedule21:14
Quintasanand alarm app for rbelem 21:14
Quintasan /request21:15
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apacheloggerQuintasan: not in v121:23
apacheloggerQuintasan: this is way easier to do with the newly developed rest-like api21:23
apacheloggerwhich I'd rather not transit to for uds-p as it requires a whole new QA run on all the bits21:24
apacheloggerwhereas the present ical based system is rock solid21:24

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