[02:09] <rbelem> apachelogger, i'm building the kubuntu-mobile image :-D
[02:10] <rbelem> i'm going to bed
[02:10] <rbelem> tomorrow lets see the results
[08:40] <Tm_T> uh, is upgrade to Oneiric intended to remove kpackagekit?
[08:45] <Tm_T> ah, is
[08:50] <Riddell> muon is there instead
[09:57] <apachelogger> I think muon is unable to install mp3 support
[09:58] <apachelogger> yeah, it does not work
[09:58] <apachelogger> installs all sorts of rubbish, just not fluendo or ffmpeg
[10:01] <Riddell> mm, that's not good
[10:01] <apachelogger> yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/+bug/876045
[10:02] <apachelogger> needs looking into
[10:02] <apachelogger> might just be a package not yet build issue, but who knows
[10:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: supposedly jon the taco needs poking
[10:08] <debfx> apachelogger: what does it install?
[10:09] <apachelogger> a lot of stuff
[10:09] <debfx> mp3 playback works fine for me with only -bad and -ugly installed
[10:09] <apachelogger> Install: libsoundtouch0:amd64 (1.6.0-2, automatic), libts-0.0-0:amd64 (1.0-9, automatic), libzbar0:amd64 (0.10+doc-7, automatic), libflite1:amd64 (1.4-release-2, automatic), gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:amd64 (0.10.22-2ubuntu4), libfftw3-3:amd64 (3.2.2-1ubuntu2, automatic), libslv2-9:amd64 (0.6.6-9, automatic), libdirectfb-1.2-9:amd64 (1.2.10.0-4ubuntu3, automatic), libgme0:amd64 (0.5.5-2, automatic), freepats:amd64 (20060219-1), 
[10:09] <apachelogger> libwildmidi1:amd64 (0.2.3.4-1, automatic), libcdaudio1:amd64 (0.99.12p2-10, automatic), libmimic0:amd64 (1.0.4-2.1, automatic), tsconf:amd64 (1.0-9, automatic), librsvg2-2:amd64 (2.34.1-2, automatic), libmusicbrainz4c2a:amd64 (2.1.5-6, automatic), libcelt0-0:amd64 (0.7.1-1, automatic), libofa0:amd64 (0.9.3-3.1, automatic), libmms0:amd64 (0.6.2-2, automatic)
[10:10] <apachelogger> debfx: I think the algo is fckd
[10:10] <apachelogger> IIRC it should install fluendo as first choie
[10:10] <apachelogger> +c
[10:10] <apachelogger> if that is not possible -> ffmpeg -> if that is not possible -> ugly
[10:10] <debfx> or the package metadata is wrong
[10:11] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[10:11] <debfx> but how would it know which package is preferred?
[10:12] <ulysses> packages needs a built-in AI
[10:15] <apachelogger> debfx: hardcode
[10:26] <debfx> hm for me the codec installer doesn't even pop up
[10:26] <debfx> but shouldn't ffmpeg be able to play audio/x-ac3?
[10:43] <apachelogger> debfx: ffmpeg is able to play amost everything
[10:47] <debfx> apparently the ac3 decoder has been disabled because it's broken
[10:48] <debfx> apachelogger: any idea how to debug the codec-installer-isn't-called problem?
[10:48] <apachelogger> debfx: it is not called?
[10:48] <apachelogger> PHONON_GST_DEBUG=5
[10:48] <apachelogger> and if that does not help PHONON_GST_GST_DEBUG=3
[10:54] <debfx> it doesn't seem to complain about a missing codec
[10:55] <debfx> "gst-launch playbin" does however
[11:45] <apachelogger> rbelem: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/uds/downloads/2
[11:50] <ghostcube> hi folks, shutdown doesnt still work, even with the new commandline
[12:10] <droidslayer> \o
[12:15] <Quintasan> wendar: \o/ I'm going to pick up the Transformer :)
[12:16] <droidslayer> I got mine today \o/
[12:16] <nigelb> droidslayer: transformer?
[12:16] <droidslayer> Yup
[12:16] <ulysses> Optimus Prime?
[12:16] <nigelb> tablet?
[12:16] <nigelb> phone?
[12:16] <droidslayer> Tablet
[12:17] <Quintasan> droidslayer: Where be pics of Kubantoo on it?
[12:17] <droidslayer> Cant quite figure how to autocomplete irc nicks on this thing
[12:18] <Quintasan> use the Search button
[12:18] <Quintasan> durrr
[12:18] <nigelb> Quintasan: Your at the google thing as well?
[12:18] <nigelb> *you're
[12:18] <Quintasan> nigelb: Nah, I'll be going to pick up mine in one hour or so
[12:18] <Quintasan> Installing Kubantoo right away
[12:18] <Quintasan> :P
[12:18] <nigelb> Quintasan: No, I mean, are you at SF?
[12:18] <Quintasan> Ah, no
[12:18] <nigelb> Pick up from where?
[12:18] <nigelb> :)
[12:19] <Quintasan> Wrocław
[12:19] <droidslayer> Quintasan: will investigate tomorrow, currently quite tired from the journey
[12:19] <Quintasan> There is no such thing as "too tired" when working with shiny new hardware"
[12:19] <nigelb> Nice
[12:19] <nigelb> Quintasan++
[12:19] <droidslayer> Just lying in the bed right now
[12:19] <nigelb> Good point.
[12:20] <droidslayer> Sure there is
[12:20] <nigelb> Besides, its morning
[12:20] <Quintasan> It means you are doing it wrong droidslayer 
[12:20] <Quintasan> :P
[12:20] <nigelb> Not like you're going to sleep anyway.
[12:20] <droidslayer> Happens when you take a 27 hour flight
[12:20] <nigelb> haha
[12:20] <Quintasan> 27 hours?! I would have upgraded and broke Kubantoo in that time
[12:21] <droidslayer> Did not have transformer on the flight 
[12:21] <droidslayer> Might as well get up and start hacking in 10 minutes
[12:22] <Quintasan> That's right, you are getting on the right track
[12:22] <droidslayer> Since i can't sleep
[12:22] <nigelb> droidslayer: see PM :)
[12:22] <Quintasan> Now execute the action and post pics so we can comment
[12:25] <droidslayer> Quintasan: hwh
[12:26] <droidslayer> Her deep
[12:26] <droidslayer> Fffffffuuuuuuuuuu
[12:26] <droidslayer> Nvm me
[12:26] <Quintasan> What the...
[12:27] <droidslayer> Quintasan: switched keyboard layouts, typos everywhere along with auto complete
[12:27] <Quintasan> droidslayer: PROTIP: use Thumb Keyboard
[12:27] <Quintasan> or dock
[12:27] <droidslayer> Didn't get a dock
[12:27] <droidslayer> Just the tablet
[12:28] <Quintasan> Thumb Keyboard then
[12:28] <Quintasan> or SwiftKeyboard X
[12:28] <Quintasan> The stock one is, ewww
[12:28] <Quintasan> or wait me generate maliit package
[12:28] <Quintasan> :P
[12:29] <droidslayer> Can has apk?  :-P 
[12:29] <apachelogger> wth is bulldog?
[12:30] <droidslayer> Hey apachelogger 
[12:30] <apachelogger> droidslayer: do we have kubuntu running yet?
[12:30] <apachelogger> anyone with a symbian^3 phone around?
[12:30] <droidslayer> apachelogger: just getting started, was sleeping earlier
[12:31] <Quintasan> apachelogger: >implying anyone cares about new silly symbian
[12:31] <apachelogger> your definition of new is very weird I might say
[12:31] <Quintasan> s/new//
[12:31] <kubotu> Quintasan meant: "apachelogger: >implying anyone cares about  silly symbian"
[12:31]  * apachelogger does
[12:32] <Quintasan> Have fun then :D
[12:32] <Quintasan> droidslayer: check query
[12:33] <Quintasan> apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5
[12:33] <Quintasan> We might have more luck with EGL now
[12:34] <droidslayer> Bbiab
[12:34] <apachelogger> what is egl anyway
[12:35] <Quintasan> apachelogger: OpenGL ES 2.0 WORKING on i.MX board
[12:35] <apachelogger> that is what egl is?
[12:35]  * apachelogger points out that gles was working all along, we just didn't have drivers :P
[12:36] <Quintasan> That's what I'm talking about, stop nitpicking pls
[12:38]  * apachelogger will nit pick as much as he pleases after Quintasan having badmouthed poor ol symbian
[12:38] <droidslayer> apachelogger: you never got back to me about arm packages for plasma active
[12:38] <apachelogger> on a related note: my imx i empires away right now
[12:38] <apachelogger> and I'll not get to touch it indecently for at least 2 weeks
[12:39] <apachelogger> droidslayer: sure I did
[12:39] <droidslayer> You ... did? Uh ... OK .... I'll look at my quassel backlogs then
[12:41] <apachelogger> yeah
[12:42] <apachelogger> I said something like 'rbelem is awesome and likes to have packages, so he will get me packages;
[12:42] <apachelogger> s/;/'/
[12:42] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: "I said something like 'rbelem is awesome and likes to have packages, so he will get me packages'"
[12:43] <droidslayer> OK
[12:43] <apachelogger> what I like best about symbian is the sleeping screen
[12:43] <apachelogger> makes it much less boring
[13:40] <rbelem> image build failed :-/
[13:43] <shadeslayer> rbelem: what do you use to generate rootfs ?
[13:43] <shadeslayer> for ARM devices
[13:43] <shadeslayer> ( I'm using rootstock right now, but it seems like ubuntu will switch to live-build in the Precise cycle )
[13:44] <rbelem> forgot to upload kubuntu-mobile-meta :-P
[13:44] <rbelem> shadeslayer, live build
[13:44] <rbelem> shadeslayer, https://wiki.linaro.org/LiveHelper/Hacking?highlight=%28live-build%29
[13:45] <rbelem> shadeslayer, live build is really nice
[13:45] <shadeslayer> rbelem: the man pages are insanely long
[13:45] <rbelem> shadeslayer, together with germinate it is really powerful
[13:45] <rbelem> shadeslayer, thats true
[13:46] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i didnt look at this
[13:46] <rbelem> shadeslayer, just the wiki page
[13:46] <shadeslayer> ok, I'm going through that
[13:47] <rbelem> shadeslayer, grab the kubuntu-mobile-meta from the active ppa instead of linaro meta
[13:49] <shadeslayer> rbelem: I want ARM packages :P
[13:50] <shadeslayer> i386 and amd64 won't do it
[13:50] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i will ask rsalveti to build them
[13:50] <shadeslayer> please do :)
[13:50] <rbelem> shadeslayer, one minute
[13:50] <rbelem> :-)
[13:51] <shadeslayer> uhm, Did ScottK leave us or something?
[13:52] <rbelem> shadeslayer, i think so :'(
[13:52] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:52]  * shadeslayer hasn't seen any mails from hism regarding thi
[13:53]  * shadeslayer hasn't seen any mails from him regarding this
[14:04] <shadeslayer> rbelem: what does the "packages" variable do?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> define packages to be seeded?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ( in lp:~linaro-maintainers/linaro/live-helper.config.oneiric.ubuntu-desktop conf_create.sh )
[14:11] <eMyller> hi all
[14:11] <shadeslayer> hey
[14:12] <shadeslayer> OK, I've got to get ready now, cya in a bit
[14:14] <wendar> Quintasan: awesome! :)
[14:18] <eMyller> dude
[14:19] <eMyller> kde 4.7.2 is REQUIRED on oneiric :S
[14:47] <yofel> o/
[14:49] <yofel> shadeslayer: Scott sent a mail to ubuntu-devel ML that he's taking a vacation of undefined length
[14:49] <yofel> eMyller: sorry, all of us are either busy and/or a bit tired...
[14:50]  * yofel looks what's left
[14:50] <eMyller> yofel: i know. that applies to me as well.
[14:52] <eMyller> that was a comment, not a criticism... i'm on the dev boat too.
[14:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: do you know anything about akonadi's postgres backend?
[14:55] <yofel> re: you mail inbox
[15:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: nope, but I'll have a go at it once I get some time later today
[15:19] <shadeslayer> and weird, I'm subscribed to ubuntu devel, and I didn't get that 
[15:24] <yofel> shadeslayer: ok, so far it seems like akonadi is running 'postgres', but those options are meant for 'pg_ctl'
[15:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how is the transformer?
[15:32] <yofel> btw. are we supposed to upload 4.7.2 to precise before the SRU is done?
[15:33] <Riddell> yofel: yes, preferably
[15:33] <yofel> ok
[15:33]  * yofel goes uploading kdelibs
[15:34] <debfx> why not just copy them from oneirc-updates?
[15:34] <yofel> how?
[15:35] <yofel> shadeslayer: if you want to continue, the postgres stuff in in akonadi server/src/storage/dbconfigpostgresql.cpp - haven't really figued out where it reads mServerPath from
[15:35] <debfx> an archive admin can do that
[15:35] <yofel> s/in in/is in/
[15:35] <kubotu> yofel meant: "shadeslayer: if you want to continue, the postgres stuff is in akonadi server/src/storage/dbconfigpostgresql.cpp - haven't really figued out where it reads mServerPath from"
[15:35] <yofel> meaning Riddell ;)
[15:37] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I just picked up mah transformer
[15:38] <yofel> Quintasan: where did you get a transformer from?
[15:38] <Quintasan> Will dump stock partition first and then attempt some Kubantoo installation
[15:39] <Quintasan> yofel: I picked it up in Wrocław. wendar ordered it for me
[15:39]  * yofel is still tablet-less -.-
[15:40] <Quintasan> wendar: Yeah, so I went to pick it up, it's working (Android boots). Thanks :)
[15:41] <Quintasan> Will post more pics when I get Kubantoo booting
[15:41]  * Quintasan goes off to enjoy his pizza
[15:48] <rbelem> shadeslayer, it should be kubuntu-mobile i guess
[15:51] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kbruch] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) New upstream release (LP: #872506)
[15:53] <apachelogger> Quintasan: harrharrr
[15:54] <apachelogger> I suppose everyone got the optimus prime now ^^
[15:54] <apachelogger> wendar: thanks again for setting this up and getting deployment sorted :)
[16:09] <rbelem> shadeslayer, apachelogger, rsalveti will send the packages for build today night -0300
[16:09] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgeography] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)
[16:20] <apachelogger> rbelem: awesum
[16:27] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) Add libxxf86vm-dev to build-deps
[16:42] <apachelogger> rbelem: https://picasaweb.google.com/101588423559652288894/UDSHarmattan
[16:42] <apachelogger> btw, I fixed the harmattan boost stuff
[16:43] <apachelogger> one needs to export main :D
[16:49] <shadeslayer> rbelem: awesome
[17:00] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmplot] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)
[17:03] <markey> so here is a clear regression I found in 11.10: if you install the NVidia binary driver, python-gtk2 is not installed
[17:03] <markey> making making nvidia-settings fail to write any config
[17:03] <markey> I'm too busy to make a bug report, is it OK to report it just here? maybe you can create a report internally
[17:04] <markey> Riddell: ^
[17:09] <maco> markey: do you know what the package is for that nvidia binary driver?
[17:10] <markey> maco: "python-gtk2". the dependency seems to be missing
[17:10] <maco> no no i mean, what is the nvidia package?
[17:10] <markey> for the user it's hard to detect the problem, unless you start it from the terminal
[17:10] <yofel> markey: the settings are in 'nvidia-settings'
[17:10] <yofel> er
[17:10] <yofel> maco: ^
[17:10] <maco> ok
[17:10] <maco> thanks
[17:11] <markey> thanks folks :)
[17:11] <maco> im not on oneiric, but i see multiple nvidia drivers in the repos so didnt know which package 
[17:11] <markey> I've installed the recommended one
[17:12] <maco> hmm yeah there's rather a lack of gui toolkits in teh lsit for something marked as an x11 app
[17:12] <yofel> which one that is depends on your card... (but usually it's nvidia-current)
[17:12] <markey> it's a Quattro from a ThinkPad W510
[17:13] <yofel> ah, probably about the same as in my T510 I guess
[17:13] <markey> btw, some work mates are telling me that they have huge issues with the ThinkPad W520 (but still in 11.04). it works for others, I will check what the actual issue is
[17:13] <markey> apachelogger: ^ one of the reasons why we really need a custom developer Kubuntu image from you
[17:14] <markey> we're losing days of developer time due to issues like those
[17:14]  * maco throws package at pbuilder
[17:15] <markey> I made Kubuntu the standard developer OS at Nokia Ulm :)
[17:15] <yofel> \o/
[17:15] <maco> markey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/721453
[17:16] <maco> that bug suggests there are two missing dependencies. the other was ok for you?
[17:16] <markey> and apachelogger will likely work for us (part time), creating a dev distro, maintaining .deb packages and .rpm
[17:17] <markey> maco: after installing python-gtk2, everything was fine
[17:17] <maco> ok
[17:22] <wendar> apachelogger: glad to help Kubuntu's advances :)
[17:23] <wendar> Quintasan: let me know if you need me to dig up the instructions for blatting over Android with Ubuntu. it's only a hack build script that pulls in appropriate drivers, but might be a useful starting point
[17:38] <maco> hmm now who do i pester to sponsor that
[17:41] <maco> hey, whichayall can upload to main?
[17:54]  * apachelogger points at the as usual absent jon the taco
[17:54] <rbelem> apachelogger, nice :-)
[17:55] <rbelem> apachelogger, are you going to uds, btw?
[17:55] <apachelogger> nope
[17:55]  * yofel points at apachelogger
[17:55] <rbelem> apachelogger, why not :'(
[17:59] <apachelogger> rbelem: too much going on in my life
[17:59] <apachelogger> like mobile apps
[17:59] <apachelogger> rbelem: https://plus.google.com/photos/101588423559652288894/albums/5664521662013420769
[18:01] <rbelem> apachelogger, awesome :-D which device is that?
[18:01] <apachelogger> 701
[18:07] <maco> markey: its being handled
[18:07] <Jilly> So who needs development help?
[18:07] <markey> maco: thanks
[18:07] <maco> i submitted a patch which has been committed. and now the sponsor is recommitting the fix because DOH i modified the control instead of control.in
[18:08] <maco> i cant figure out WHY ubuntu's version of the package has a control.in when debian's doesnt, but go figure
[18:10] <ghostcube> debfx: ping  the "/sbin/shutdown -h -P now"  doesnt shutdown and poweroff  i dont need to set the " or do i ?
[18:11] <ghostcube> btw not only kubuntu is effekted its in xubuntu too
[18:11] <debfx> ghostcube: no, without the "
[18:11] <ghostcube> ok then i got it like i should not working so far
[18:12] <debfx> which display manager does xubuntu use?
[18:12] <ghostcube> xfce
[18:12] <yofel> debfx: in oneiric ligthdm it seems
[18:13] <ghostcube> maybe this is a kernel bug?
[18:13] <ghostcube> it worked fine till 3.x
[18:13] <debfx> ghostcube: does the system shutdown when you run "sudo /sbin/shutdown -h -P now" manually (make sure to save all documents before doing so)
[18:13] <ghostcube> need to check ill do now bbiab
[18:14] <yofel> Jilly: if you're interested in kubuntu development, see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development - it describes what fields of work we have
[18:18] <eMyller> what's the deal with audio output? anyone experiencing problems on intel boards?
[18:20] <BarkingFish> eMyller, are you looking for help with your audio?
[18:20] <eMyller> no, trying to report a problem
[18:20] <Peace-> guys multiple users are saying this http://www.kdenlive.org/forum/ubuntu-1110-wont-run-kdenlive-mlts-sdl-module-not-found
[18:20] <Peace-> a bug of kdenlive that means you can't start it ...
[18:20] <eMyller> uh, i see that there's a new channel. "speaker". it's hidden and disabled by default. :(
[18:21] <ghostcube> debfx: yes manually it works
[18:22] <debfx> ok, then it's not a kernel bug
[18:22] <BarkingFish> eMyller, if you're reporting bugs with stuff, the best place to do this is to go to the Launchpad and either ask a question, or report the bug there
[18:23] <maco> markey: anyway, re-fixed :P
[18:23] <BarkingFish> if it's KDE related, you report at http://bugs.kde.org - for Kubuntu & related stuff, it's https://bugs.launchpad.net
[18:23] <eMyller> BarkingFish: i know where to report bugs. i just wanna make sure it's not just me before posting something.
[18:24] <BarkingFish> Ok then, go there and try a search of the bugs to see if anyone else has your issue :)
[18:24] <ghostcube> debfx: yep
[18:24] <apachelogger> Peace-: so much to read -.-
[18:24] <apachelogger> someone fix kdenlive
[18:24]  * apachelogger continues removing visual studio bits
[18:24] <Peace-> apachelogger: there is a ppa version that works
[18:24] <BarkingFish> If you don't find anything after the search, you should go ahead and file a bug on it, eMyller 
[18:25] <Peace-> apachelogger: this is the error Kicks out an Fatal error "MLT's SDL module not found". => you can't use kdenlive 
[18:25] <Peace-> sunab repo has a version that works
[18:26] <apachelogger> well, sounds like mlt was built without sdl
[18:26]  * yofel tries to rebuild kdenlive
[18:26] <Peace-> apachelogger: it's the version of kubuntu repo
[18:26] <eMyller> BarkingFish: you know, there's just 5 days oneiric was launched. the amount of useful bug reports on launchpad might be little yet.
[18:27] <eMyller> BarkingFish: would you just confirm what's happening? it's simpler. :)
[18:27] <apachelogger> -rw-r--r-- root/root     38100 2011-09-20 22:01 ./usr/lib/mlt/libmltsdl.so
[18:27] <apachelogger> Peace-: is there any report about this appearing on a new install?
[18:27] <BarkingFish> eMyller, I can't confirm what's happening if I have no information about it.  This is why I'm directing you to look for bug reports about it :)
[18:28] <Peace-> apachelogger: i have 2 users here 
[18:28] <Peace-> apachelogger: your kdnelive is running fine?
[18:28] <apachelogger> because either the users there have broken the system by using unsupported PPAs before the upgrade OR there is indeed something wrong with the package, but that would be easy to check
[18:28] <yofel> Peace-: doesn't work here - rebuilding right now
[18:28] <apachelogger> Peace-: I am not in linux right now
[18:28] <Peace-> oh
[18:28] <apachelogger> yofel: might be a symbol issue
[18:29] <apachelogger> maybe someone thought it bo e a good idea to change sdl around after september 20 :P
[18:29] <yofel> point proven
[18:29] <yofel> rebuild fixed it
[18:29] <yofel> debfx: can you SRU a rebuild of kdenlive?
[18:30] <yofel> if you've got time
[18:30]  * yofel uploads a rebuilt to the PPA in the meanwhile
[18:30] <yofel> *rebuild
[18:31] <yofel> hm, wait
[18:37] <yofel> bah, needs newer snapshot
[18:37] <Peace-> yofel: ppa?
[18:37] <yofel> Peace-: nvm that
[18:38] <yofel> Peace-: kdenlive 0.8+svn5945-1 that was synced to precise works, needs to be backported or someone to figure out how to SRU the MLT fix
[18:41] <Jilly> Oh do you guys use Ruby often? 
[18:41] <yofel> apachelogger likes using ruby
[18:42] <Jilly> I'm not real familiar?but it's something I've been wanting to learn.  
[18:42] <yofel> Peace-: there's debian bug 636933 on the mlt issue
[18:43] <Peace-> yofel: yo
[18:46] <Jilly> OMG, my cat is drinking my coffee?time for a new cup! :) 
[18:47] <Peace-> Jilly: hahahahaa
[18:48] <Jilly> So mostly it's c++ and then I assume you ultimately compile ruby?
[18:49] <yofel> if we ever write code here it's usually c++ or python, some ruby in scripts. Not that we have many apps we write ourselves. Most of the coding goes to KDE
[18:50] <Jilly> Oh?so you guys pretty much just package the kde stuff to work with ubuntu?
[18:51] <yofel> Jilly: yeah, muon would be an exception I guess
[18:52] <Peace-> i don't like muon , it seems buggy
[18:54] <yofel> muon isn't IMO, polkit-kde is though
[18:54] <Peace-> kpackagekit worked fine 
[18:55] <Quintasan> Peace-: Use Apper then
[18:55] <Jilly> I often just use apt-get but?haven't used the kde package managers.
[18:55] <Quintasan> We removed KPK PRECISELY because it's buggy :P
[18:55] <Peace-> LOL
[18:56] <Quintasan> Precise is going to be soooo precise
[18:56] <Peace-> if i search package with muon it doesn't find 
[18:56] <Peace-> it
[18:57] <Peace-> kpakcage kit was better on searching 
[18:57] <Peace-> btw i use apt-get too
[18:57] <yofel> Peace-: I'll put the new version of kdenlive into ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa and request a backport to oneiric-backports. I have neither time nor enough knowledge of kdenlive code to figure out which svn commit fixed the issue
[18:57] <apachelogger> Jilly: actually those of us who code, do it in KDE
[18:58] <Quintasan> Peace-: KPK was renamed to Apper. We already have Apper in oneiric
[18:58] <Peace-> yofel: :)
[18:58] <Quintasan> Thank ximion
[18:58] <Quintasan> for that
[18:58] <Peace-> ya? Quintasani am going to prove apper then
[18:58] <yofel> and close bug 863186
[18:58] <apachelogger> yofel: you fix kdenlive?
[18:59] <yofel> apachelogger: it's fixed in precise
[18:59] <apachelogger> that won't help users much
[18:59] <yofel> I'll put it into the PPA, and request a backport. That's all *I* can do
[18:59] <yofel> feel free to bisect kdenlive svn for the fix
[18:59] <apachelogger> nah
[18:59] <apachelogger> we should be able to get super duper SRU exception
[19:00] <Jilly> apachelogger: cool?I'll take a look at the KDE stuff too.  
[19:00] <apachelogger> "it is broken, can't get much worse than this"
[19:00] <yofel> well true, I'll poke pitti if we can SRU utterly broken software
[19:00] <apachelogger> yofel: I'll even sing a song for you
[19:00] <yofel> lol
[19:00] <yofel> stop, don't! :P
[19:00]  * Quintasan wonders who will be getting our packages through archive when Scott is gone
[19:00]  * Quintasan hand apachelogger some liquior
[19:00]  * BarkingFish hands out the ear defenders to yofel and anyone else who wants them
[19:00] <Quintasan> hands over*
[19:00] <yofel> Quintasan: you're forgetting that Riddell comes back
[19:01] <Quintasan> Ah yes
[19:01] <Quintasan> Silly me
[19:01] <apachelogger> soft yofi, warm yofi, little ball of code, happy yofi, sleepy yofi, purr purr purr
[19:01] <Quintasan> DURR
[19:01] <BarkingFish> 0.o
[19:01] <yofel> rofl
[19:01] <Jilly> Okie?have to go for a while?should be back later today. :) 
[19:01] <Darkwing> Also, Riddle and I are sitting down for some training during UDS so I can help more with packaging and ISO testing.
[19:01]  * apachelogger should have become a singer
[19:01] <Darkwing> a singer? 
[19:02]  * Quintasan joins in on the Darkwing packaging training in return for some docs writing skills
[19:02] <BarkingFish> Before I go file *another* bug, anyone on Oneiric, can you tell me if you're having problems with Audio notifications from things like Network Manager and stuff?
[19:02] <apachelogger> ICE-O testing
[19:02] <Peace-> :) Quintasan search codec on apper and on muon  you will se the difference
[19:02] <Darkwing> Quintasan: deal!
[19:02] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: Not really, works here
[19:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan, Darkwing: first you must install my uds app
[19:02] <apachelogger> sheytan: ping
[19:02] <apachelogger> sheytan: pink
[19:02] <Darkwing> apachelogger: UDS app?
[19:02] <apachelogger> sheytan: pling
[19:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: LINGS
[19:03] <apachelogger> Darkwing: see google pluzzzz
[19:03] <apachelogger> and facelook
[19:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: look the intarwebs you silly person you
[19:03] <BarkingFish> Quintasan, ah. I set 4 audio notifications on network manager, to alert me on network trying to connect, network connection successful, connection failure, and low signal strength.
[19:03] <apachelogger> what we need is a kitty sound theme
[19:03] <BarkingFish> They're all on, my event sounds are at max, and none of them work.  They play out if I play them in the Notifications KCM, but not on the actual widget
[19:04] <Quintasan> :/
[19:04] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you must make kitty event sound theme for fluffies
[19:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: links pls
[19:04]  * Quintasan be too lazy
[19:04] <apachelogger> Quintasan: projects.developer.nokia.com/uds
[19:04] <sheytan> apachelogger: yellow!
[19:04] <Darkwing> apachelogger: any plans to port to Android? :P:P
[19:04] <apachelogger> sheytan: do you have the illustrator by adobe?
[19:04] <apachelogger> Darkwing: if you make i
[19:04] <apachelogger> t
[19:04] <apachelogger> or Quintasan
[19:04] <apachelogger> actually with hardcoded non-integrated theme it would not be much effort 
[19:05] <sheytan> apachelogger: nope, what for?
[19:05] <bulldog98> apachelogger: give me an pad to note that on the fluffy server
[19:05] <apachelogger> sheytan: I need a SVG icon for symbian and the inkscape makes incompatible svg 
[19:05] <apachelogger> so crappy icon comes out of it
[19:06] <sheytan> apachelogger: maybe it's simbain that 'reads' the svg wrong? :)
[19:06] <sheytan> i don't think inkscape makes crappy stuff at all
[19:06] <BarkingFish> apachelogger, how you exporting? as an inkscape SVG or a plain SVG?
[19:08] <BarkingFish> You may want to export it as a Plain SVG, since I know the inkscape SVG's sometimes have problems.  Even on Wikipedia, we have the same issue - export as Plain, it's fine - as an Inkscape SVG it's all to pot.
[19:08] <yofel> Darkwing: yay! 4.8 packaging will be fun, make sure not to miss it ;)
[19:08] <bulldog98> yofel: ??
[19:08] <apachelogger> bulldog98: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/uds.sis you be trying this
[19:08] <yofel> bulldog98: even more splits?
[19:08] <Darkwing> yofel: I just need some training. :)
[19:09] <bulldog98> yofel: yeah that’s nice :)
[19:09] <yofel> but no kdegames :(
[19:09] <apachelogger> BarkingFish: nah, that is not the problem ... the problem is that symbian itself uses svgtiny, so the svg gets converted to that and if the svg is using more features than svgt can do it will come out all wrong
[19:09] <yofel> although they're just discussing that
[19:10] <Darkwing> Hmmz... Google IO, to go or not to go....
[19:10] <apachelogger> sheytan: symbian does svgt and considering all other icons come out wrong I'd refrain from putting the blame on symbian's svgt implementation :P
[19:11] <apachelogger> Darkwing: go, then give the CEO a hug
[19:11] <Quintasan> apachelogger: But this shit is symbian, why the hell I would install it?
[19:11] <apachelogger> Quintasan: this shit is qt you shit
[19:11] <Quintasan> >uds_12.04.0_armel.deb ?
[19:11] <apachelogger> on a related note
[19:11] <Quintasan> dis?
[19:11]  * apachelogger points out that symbian aint using deb
[19:12] <Quintasan> Let me get Kubantoo on my tablets first
[19:12] <bulldog98> Quintasan: N9
[19:12]  * apachelogger points out that meego harmattan is using deb, hence the meego next to the download link :P
[19:12] <Quintasan> bulldog98: N9 what?
[19:12] <apachelogger> however the sexxi code contains an ugly proto for android
[19:12] <apachelogger> no idea if it still works though
[19:12] <Darkwing> Hmmz, this means I'll need to build an Android Devel Environment on my lappy again.
[19:13] <Darkwing> There goes half my hard drive.
[19:13] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/Ubuntu%20Developer%20Summit-debug.apk
[19:13]  * apachelogger should have shaved this morning
[19:13] <Darkwing> I need to shave... Long hair AND a beard at UDS would put people into shock.
[19:13] <apachelogger> I am suffering from itchy beardd !!!!1
[19:14] <apachelogger> Darkwing: yeah, kubuntu people must be good looking, doon't you know
[19:14] <apachelogger> no long hair and no beards
[19:14] <apachelogger> you may have wire coming out your ears though
[19:14] <apachelogger> it is a sign of professionalism
[19:14] <Darkwing> apachelogger: I'm NOT cutting my hair.
[19:14] <Darkwing> :P:P
[19:15] <apachelogger> at least wear a big hat then :P
[19:15] <Quintasan> Darkwing: long hair and beard are standards :P
[19:16] <Darkwing> apachelogger: I was going to pick up a Fezz for both of us then... You decided not to come. :P
[19:16] <Quintasan> Darkwing: also, if you are too lazy to shave, pick up a labcoat and wear it
[19:17] <Quintasan> gives you the mad scientist look
[19:17] <Darkwing> Quintasan: YES! Lap coat or, santa clause outfit. :D
[19:17] <apachelogger> hold on
[19:17] <apachelogger> wear the coat for the beard?
[19:17] <Darkwing> s/lap/lab/
[19:17] <kubotu> Darkwing: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:17] <apachelogger> I imagine that would indeed make you look mad
[19:17] <Quintasan> Darkwing: That's precisely why I bought a labcoat
[19:17] <apachelogger> also a lap coat would support that appearance
[19:17] <yofel> apachelogger: mind taking a look at bug 875034
[19:18] <Quintasan> Goddamnlogger
[19:18] <Darkwing> apachelogger: It force closes when it looks for "Extra Libraries"
[19:18] <Quintasan> Darkwing: One needs the Qt libs installed I presume
[19:18] <Quintasan> By this Necessitius thigy I believe
[19:18] <apachelogger> yofel: yeah, you no built with pulse
[19:18] <Darkwing> Yeah, I installed those... I'll run it again.
[19:19] <apachelogger> well
[19:19] <apachelogger> it should install those from the marketier
[19:19] <apachelogger> if you have one
[19:19] <apachelogger> otherwise I'd imagine that it fall apart
[19:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: U ain't comming to uds?
[19:20]  * apachelogger waves fist because of silly ext4 compatibility with windows and repoooops
[19:20] <apachelogger> no
[19:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: use FSProxy for sane ext4 under Wincrap
[19:20] <apachelogger> I got invited to a white party
[19:20] <Quintasan> Darkwing: You have a Fezz?
[19:21] <Darkwing> Quintasan: No, I was going to buy one for UDS.
[19:23] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Once I even brought stepmania mat but apachelogger did not want to dance :/
[19:24] <apachelogger> are you my mummy?
[19:25] <Quintasan> Can't really recall seeing a small apachelogger
[19:25] <Quintasan> ;P
[19:26] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ah btw. do we want maliit in Precise?
[19:28] <Darkwing> It just dawned on me... Halloween will be while we are at UDS :D
[19:29] <Quintasan> Darkwing: Hmm, yeah. It will be my first time seeing proper Halloween
[19:30] <Darkwing> Quintasan: :D Should be fun.
[19:31] <Quintasan> Kids in Poland want to bring Halloween to our tradition but ppl are somehow resistant to the idea :P
[19:32] <Darkwing> hehehe, yeah, well... It was forbidden for me as a kid because my family was very conservitive and religious.
[19:32] <apachelogger> I once wanted to introduce prnmas to the austrian people, but they did not like it *fist wave*
[19:33] <Darkwing> Anyone know of a wiki page for flight information like there was for N?
[19:34]  * Darkwing pauses... 
[19:35] <apachelogger> I believe it got replaced by the webform thing
[19:35] <Darkwing> Well, this is interesting for a LTS release... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-python-versions
[19:36]  * yofel would like python3
[19:36]  * apachelogger likes it too
[19:37] <yofel> would eliminate unicode crashes in bzr -.-
[19:37] <apachelogger> perfect opportunit to port the last remaining bits of pyth0rn to a sane language
[19:37] <apachelogger> woohooo
[20:52] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/klettres] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) * New upstream release * Fix LGPL-2 text in copyright file
[20:56] <Quintasan_> apachelogger: I just got ur Android UDS app to work
[20:56] <Quintasan_> is it supposed to do something except for displaying the list of sessions?
[21:11] <apachelogger> Quintasan: do u expect it to?
[21:13] <Quintasan> yup
[21:14] <Quintasan> apachelogger: like, sorting sessions by day, room, track
[21:14] <Quintasan> mark me schedule
[21:14] <Quintasan> and alarm app for rbelem 
[21:15] <Quintasan>  /request
[21:23] <apachelogger> Quintasan: not in v1
[21:23] <apachelogger> Quintasan: this is way easier to do with the newly developed rest-like api
[21:24] <apachelogger> which I'd rather not transit to for uds-p as it requires a whole new QA run on all the bits
[21:24] <apachelogger> whereas the present ical based system is rock solid