[01:51] <wxl> wtf
[01:51] <wxl> /usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center: line 24: import: command not found
[01:51] <wxl> /usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center: line 28: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[01:51] <wxl> ?
[02:21] <SetiAmon> Hey i have ubuntu 11.10 installed.i remember there was a way to Try lubuntu without reinstalling, what was it again
[02:22] <SetiAmon> basically i want to try out lxde on ubuntu,what do i download.and it will be reversable.
[02:37] <wxl> SetiAmon: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu#Configuration_for_Login_Managers
[02:37] <wxl> after you install lxde
[02:37] <wxl> which you can do in synaptic, aptitude, apt-get etc..
[02:37] <wxl> might check out #lxde
[02:37] <wxl> lubuntu ain't just ubuntu+lxde
[02:39] <SetiAmon> I know
[02:39] <SetiAmon> Wait
[02:39] <SetiAmon> it isn't
[02:39] <wxl> nope
[02:39] <SetiAmon> what is lubuntu then
[02:39] <wxl> ubuntu has a bunch of bullshit on it that lubuntu doesn't :D
[02:40] <wxl> (like unity)
[02:40] <wxl> xubuntu was intended to be a lightweight distribution but it really was more like ubuntu+xfce and thus it was never really lightweight
[02:48] <meway> why is there no version later than 11.04 yet :(
[02:49] <wxl> because you don't know where to look? :D
[02:49] <meway> sudo apt-get install tmw gives me a really really old client
[02:50] <wxl> latest version of tmu seems to be 1.0+git20110505-2
[02:53] <wxl> which, as you can see, is the latest in precise http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise&keywords=tmw
[02:53] <wxl> so if you're getting anything less, fix your sources
[02:55] <meway> I must update :(
[02:57] <wxl> why don't you just do the version, meway ?
[02:57] <meway> tmw is horribly broken and old as fuck :) simplest wording I can put it in xD
[02:57] <wxl> apt-get install tmw=1.0+git20110505-2
[02:57] <meway> ah that might help...
[02:57] <wxl> but you must be using the right sources
[02:58] <meway> nope not found
[02:58] <wxl> you running lubuntu 11.04 or 11.10?
[02:58] <meway> how do I change the souces?
[02:58] <meway> 11.04
[02:58] <wxl> ok so assuming you are using the 11.04 sourrces...
[02:59] <wxl> then, yep, old
[02:59] <wxl> you can temporarily add the source
[03:00] <wxl> run an install
[03:00] <wxl> and then remove the source
[03:00] <wxl> you should also probably hold the package
[03:00] <wxl> i have to do the opposite thing.. i.e. use an old package.. because thunderbird isn't supported beyond v3.1.5 for ppc
[03:00] <wxl> and sylpheed/claws piss me off
[03:01] <meway> idk how T.T
[03:01] <wxl> anywho
[03:02] <wxl> go to Preferences > Software Sources > Other Software > Add...
[03:02] <meway> wxl how do I add the source?
[03:02] <wxl> use this line:
[03:02] <meway> where is "software sources" please back up and being with click the big circle in the bottom left corner
[03:02] <meway> xD
[03:03] <wxl> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ oneiric universe
[03:03] <wxl> oh my meway
[03:03] <wxl> so if you've clicked on that then you should see preferences!
[03:03] <meway> yup
[03:03] <wxl> ok keep going then
[03:05] <meway> ?
[03:05] <wxl> um
[03:05] <meway> I see...
[03:06] <wxl> click on software sources
[03:06] <wxl> click on the updates tab
[03:06] <wxl> include the aforementioned line:
[03:06] <wxl> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ oneiric universe
[03:06] <meway> there is none
[03:06] <wxl> hit ok
[03:06] <meway> There is no software sources >.< that is where you lost me ...
[03:06] <wxl> weird
[03:06] <wxl> i thought that was arround in 11.04
[03:06] <wxl> oh well
[03:06] <wxl> terminal time
[03:07] <wxl> or just run
[03:07] <wxl> gksudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:07] <wxl> when you have leafpad open, copy/paste that line at the end
[03:07] <wxl> save it
[03:08] <Unit193> Adding oneiric sources in Natty? Not the best idea
[03:08] <wxl> oh for this goofy ass game it ain't a big deal
[03:08] <wxl> :D
[03:09] <Unit193> Please try to keep this family friendly too
[03:09] <meway> wxl I know how to use the terminal
[03:09] <meway> lets go with that xD
[03:10] <wxl> Unit193: yes dear
[03:10] <meway> wxl copy what line where?
[03:10] <wxl> meway: put it in sources.list
[03:10] <meway> anywhere?
[03:11] <wxl> prolly best at the end
[03:11] <meway> and than?
[03:11] <wxl> save it
[03:12] <wxl> sudo apt-get update
[03:12] <wxl> sudo apt-get install tmw
[03:13] <meway> tmw or the git+akjas29823402342 w/e one?
[03:13] <wxl> it should be the most recent and should install that version anyways
[03:13] <wxl> lastly let's get it on hold:
[03:13] <wxl> echo "tmw hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[03:14] <wxl> then remove that line from soures list so oneiric doesn't come back to haunt you any futher
[03:14] <wxl> if/when you upgrade to 11.10, then you should probably take it off hold
[03:15] <wxl> echo "tmw install" | dpkg --set-selections
[03:15] <meway> wxl wait what?>
[03:15] <meway> I am still on sudo apt-get install tmw?
[03:15] <meway> should I do this?
[03:15] <wxl> yes
[03:16] <meway> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[03:16] <wxl> did you update first?
[03:16] <meway> yes
[03:16] <wxl> weird
[03:16] <wxl> try
[03:16] <wxl> apt-get install tmw=1.0+git20110505-2
[03:17] <meway> tmw was not found
[03:17] <meway> btw I do have tmw installed from previous ...
[03:17] <wxl> bizarre
[03:17] <wxl> do you pastebinit?
[03:17] <meway> ?
[03:18] <meway> wxl, how do I uninstall tmw?
[03:18] <wxl> well it's a nice tool but if you could copy/paste your sources.list into pastebin that would be nice
[03:18] <wxl> sudo apt-get remove tmw
[03:18] <wxl> and you can reinstall with
[03:18] <wxl> sudo apt-get install --reinstall tmw
[03:18] <wxl> be back in a few
[03:19] <meway> wxl you want me to paste my source list?
[03:21] <meway> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ oneiric universe is correct?
[03:28] <meway> I get this error on sudo apt-get update
[03:28] <meway> Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates/universe Translation-en
[03:28] <meway> W: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/oneiric/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:32] <laumonier> my pcmanfm freezes sometimes can someone help me to fix this problem?
[03:44] <wxl> hm ok meway hold on
[03:45] <meway> wxl, not sure if that link works
[03:46] <meway> and I am told this will break things so I have backed everything up just in case
[03:48] <wxl> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ oneiric universe
[03:48] <wxl> that's what i have in mine
[03:48] <wxl> oh well
[03:49] <wxl> update to 11.10 :D
[03:51] <meway> you sure you did not typo?
[03:51] <wxl> last one is a copy/paste
[03:54] <meway> ;_;
[03:54] <meway> download page?
[03:56] <wxl> sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:00] <meway> this will effect what ?
[04:00] <wxl> upgrade to 11.10
[04:01] <meway> during the upgrade will effect what?
[04:02] <wxl> your distribution
[04:02] <wxl> you go from 11.04 to 11.10
[04:02] <wxl> natty to oneiric
[04:02] <wxl> then you'll have tmw
[04:03] <wxl> the new one
[04:03] <meway> wxl, without restarting?
[04:03] <meway> cause it is doing it right now :s
[04:06] <wxl> dunno about the restart
[04:09] <meway> i_i I am running a server
[04:09]  * meway logs in to warn properly the users
[04:10] <meway> nvm nobody is online I must not be that important today rofl
[04:11] <KM0201> warn users about what?
[04:11] <wxl> possible restart with a do-release-upgrade
[04:11] <wxl> he's running a server
[04:11] <wxl> ever get your dm working, KM0201 ?
[04:12] <KM0201> wxl: haven't really messed w/ it.
[04:12] <wxl> good to hear you're out having fun :D
[04:12] <KM0201> lol... is that what htey call it?
[04:12] <wxl> hahahah uh oh maybe not in your case :D
[04:40] <meway> please tell me there is a logical reason other than hardware failure that google chrome would have a red boarder for no apparent reason?
[04:57] <wxl> good to hear you're out having fun :D
[04:57] <wxl> sorry about that
[04:59] <meway> lol what?
[04:59] <wxl> just fforget it :D
[06:11] <new2lubuntu> sorry to bother you guys as i know some of you are busy,, i accidently deleted my shutdown button on the right side.. how do i get it back?
[06:12] <wxl> right click panel
[06:12] <wxl> add / remove panel items
[06:12] <bioterror> easiest way is to remove lxpanel configuration
[06:12] <wxl> add "application launch bar"
[06:13] <wxl> ah
[06:13] <wxl> nevermind my idea
[06:13] <wxl> there's no shutdown in the menu....
[06:13] <bioterror> as I said
[06:13] <new2lubuntu> yeah haha i noticed
[06:13] <bioterror> rm -rf !
[06:14] <new2lubuntu> removing lxpanel config will do what? return it to default?
[06:14] <bioterror> Unit193, make a faq about removing lxpanel configurations? :)
[06:15] <new2lubuntu> that or is their a way to "factory reset" without goingtthrough the hassle of putting iso on usb stick etc..
[06:16] <bioterror> goto .config and remove lxpanel
[06:16] <bioterror> ~/.config/
[06:17] <new2lubuntu> which will leave me with what to navigate?
[06:17] <new2lubuntu> or does it default it when i do as you have instructed.
[06:18] <bioterror> remove it
[06:18] <bioterror> and logout and back in
[06:19] <new2lubuntu> i dont understand how to get to .config
[06:20] <new2lubuntu> and i feel bad about it
[06:20] <new2lubuntu> fyi
[06:21] <bioterror> cd ~/.config/
[06:23] <bioterror> or in pcmanfm press h
[06:23] <bioterror> and it will show you dot files
[06:46] <wxl> hey does mail-notification work with lxde?
[06:47] <bioterror> it's upto mail client if it uses notifyd or what ever it was ;)
[06:48] <bioterror> but I remember sylpheed notified
[06:48] <wxl> k
[07:59] <smw> has anyone gotten volume keys to work in lubuntu?
[08:01] <bioterror> yep
[08:01] <bioterror> works out of box ;)
[08:02] <smw> damn... you are right
[08:02]  * smw feels stupid
[08:02] <bioterror> if you look into lubuntu-rc.xml
[08:02] <bioterror> you have there keyboard section
[08:02] <smw> bioterror, there is just no feedback from the system :-P
[08:02] <smw> wait, mute button does not unmute
[08:02] <smw> lol
[08:02] <bioterror> your ears doesnt give you feedback?-)
[08:04] <smw> bioterror, where is lubuntu-rc.xml?
[08:04] <bioterror> .config/openbox/
[08:05] <smw> bioterror, I don't have lubuntu-rc.xml :-\
[08:05] <smw> bioterror, can you give me a list of directories to nuke?
[08:05] <smw> bioterror, I installed lubuntu-desktop after using openbox...
[08:07] <smw> thanks for the help :-). I need to go
[08:15] <preyas> any one here
[08:15] <preyas> hey sit
[08:16] <preyas> hey sir
[08:16] <preyas> my title bar theme gone off
[08:16] <preyas> when i used this command
[08:16] <preyas> compiz --replace ccp
[08:30] <preyas> hi there my lubuntu title theme is crashed
[08:30] <preyas> i used this command compiz --replace ccp
[08:30] <preyas> then it got crashed
[09:20] <cjs> Any thoughts on why lxdm wouldn't be running my startup script specified with "Exec=/home/cjs/.fvwm/start-lxde-fvwm" in the /usr/share/xsessions/fvwm-lxde.desktop file? I have it drop the date in a file as its first action, and I can run the script as user "nobody" and it does so. But that doesn't happen when I try to log in.
[09:24] <cjs> Moving the script to /usr/bin doesn't help, either.
[09:27] <cjs> Hm. Works ok with gdm.
[10:17] <meway> how do i disable my screen savor and make my monitor shut off?
[10:18] <meway> monitor should shut off automatic when nothing happens for 30m
[10:18] <meway> and I don't want a screen savor
[10:18] <meway> what should I do?
[10:19] <meway> oh nvm I see that you added this option in this version xD
[10:19] <bioterror> xsreensaver does that locking
[10:20] <bioterror> remote tap from there for locking screen
[11:42] <romm> hey guys. i'm installing LDE over an existing ubuntu 11.10 installation. is there a way to cleanly get rid of unity etc.? i want this to be like a clean lubuntu install
[12:15] <GuitarBizarre> Hey, newbie question here, I'm trying to install some variant of snes9x on my netbook, compaq 311C, lubuntu 11.10, new install
[12:15] <GuitarBizarre> I'm finding it difficult, most repositories seem to be out of date on either the build or the version of ubuntu to which they refer
[12:16] <GuitarBizarre> I keep finding references to gsnes9x, but it seems the ubuntu repositories don't have this package, terminal says package not found
[12:17] <GuitarBizarre> I've got a tar.bz2 I can find, of course, but I'm rather hopeless with such things
[12:18] <GuitarBizarre> and I'd prefer a graphical frontend, I believe the vanilla snes9x releases are command line
[12:29] <SAKKED> how can i install WLAN drivers to öubuntu?
[12:29] <SAKKED> lubuntu
[12:30] <SAKKED> some how lubuntu doesnt support my old laptop
[12:47] <badseed> Hello, I have to install Lubuntu on a computer wich have a pretty small HDD. Could you tell me wich size I should give to / (and keep enough space for few softwares like "the gimp" and "libreoffice"?
[12:59] <bioterror> badseed, make swap 1.5x the RAM and rest for /
[13:01] <badseed> I'd like to keep the maximum space for the /home... So...
[13:02] <badseed> Do you know how much space does the / system takes for a regular install?
[13:07] <jrgifford> badseed: I don't know, but I normally set my / partition about 10GB or so. Although I normally start installing everything under the sun shortly thereafter, I've never run into problems space-wise. You could probably get away with 5GB.
[13:09] <badseed> ok thank you very much ;-)
[13:09] <badseed> Have a good day/evening ;-)
[13:24] <SAKKED> is there any software center?
[13:24] <SAKKED> in lubuntu
[13:24] <SAKKED> like ubuntu
[13:26] <jrgifford> SAKKED: yeah, there is.
[13:26] <jrgifford> https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
[13:26] <jrgifford> it's in beta though.
[13:27] <saml> hey, when I double click an icon in desktop,  I want to get some animatino that the application is being started
[13:27] <saml> is it possible?
[13:28] <saml> i double click.. and nothing happens for a few seconds.. so i end up launching the application many times
[14:17] <SAKKED> ok
[14:17] <SAKKED> is it open beta?
[14:17] <SAKKED> how can i install that sofware center?
[14:18] <SAKKED> sudo apt-get lubuntu-software-center
[14:18] <SAKKED> ?
[14:21] <SAKKED> or should i use ubuntu sofware center?
[14:27] <jrgifford> SAKKED: you should be able to add the PPA then install it.
[14:28] <jrgifford> SAKKED: https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
[14:32] <SAKKED> how do i download that?
[14:32] <SAKKED> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu oneiric main
[14:32] <SAKKED> ?
[14:34] <jrgifford> sudo apt-add repository  ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[14:34] <SAKKED> is it possible to use ubuntu software center? :D
[14:34] <SAKKED> jrgifford: what does that command do?
[14:34] <SAKKED> installs that software center?
[14:35] <jrgifford> the command will add the ppa. after that you'll need to do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center to install it.
[14:35] <SAKKED> whats ppa`?
[14:37] <jrgifford> it's the repository that provides the lubuntu software center.
[14:56] <SAKKE> lol
[14:56] <SAKKE> shell crashed
[14:56] <SAKKE> so whats PPA?
[14:59] <jrgifford> SAKKED: it's a way for developers to distrubute stuff before it gets uploaded into the main repositories. so, you can install it or the latest version.
[15:10] <SAKKE> ok
[15:10] <SAKKE> so can u retype that command
[15:11] <SAKKE> how to add that ppa and istall
[15:11] <SAKKE> *install
[15:15] <SAKKE> look like i cant install adobe flash plugin to chromium
[15:15] <SAKKE> any alternates for watching youtube?
[15:29] <SAKKE> nvm
[15:29] <SAKKE> found solution =)
[15:30] <jrgifford> SAKKED: ok. sorry I didn't reply sooner, was busy with schoolwork.
[15:30] <SAKKE> np
[15:34] <SAKKE> so can i just use ubuntu software center+?
[15:36] <jrgifford> You could, but it'd bring in a bunch of gnome stuff.
[15:40] <SAKKE> like what? =)
[15:44] <jrgifford> well, all the stuff here, plus their dependencies - http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/software-center
[15:44] <jrgifford> you can go ahead and install the normal ubuntu software center, but I recommend your realize what you're getting into... :)
[15:44] <SAKKE> =)
[15:44] <SAKKE> ok
[15:44] <SAKKE> i just install that lubuntu software center
[15:45] <SAKKE> is there any instruction how to install that?
[15:45] <SAKKE> òn interenet
[15:46] <SAKKE> is gnome Mplayer lighter than VLC?
[15:49] <jrgifford> SAKKE: Yeah, tehre are instructions. - http://askubuntu.com/questions/68194/how-do-i-install-the-lubuntu-software-center
[15:49] <jrgifford> *there
[15:49] <SAKKE> ok ty
[15:50] <SAKKE> is that beta forever or is it going to reach final?
[15:50] <SAKKE> and when it comes with Lubuntu?
[15:50] <jrgifford> it'll become final, for now though it's beta.
[15:50] <SAKKE> ok
[15:50] <jrgifford> It should ship by default in 12.04 in April, not 100% sure about that though
[15:53] <SAKKE> ok
[15:55] <SAKKE> wtf
[15:55] <SAKKE> it doest work
[15:55] <SAKKE> just wont open
[16:00] <SAKKE> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/install-lubuntu-software-center.html
[16:01] <SAKKE> it says i should remove spaces :O
[16:16] <econdudeawesome> loving the new lubuntu. Very clean. Any way to display on multiple monitors?
[16:18] <silverlightning> yes there should be, I am looking in to the same
[16:18] <silverlightning> libre office impress
[16:19] <econdudeawesome> phillw, do you have any insight?
[16:27] <xsaidx> hello guys
[16:27] <xsaidx> idk why even i remove apache i still have /etc/apache2 folder
[16:28] <badseed> Hello, could you please tell me how to install the "Swiss French" keyboard in lubuntu? I don't find it during the install.
[16:29] <xsaidx> badseed: use lxkeymap
[16:32] <badseed> xsaidx, should I launch it via a terminal?
[16:33] <xsaidx> badseed:  in the menu at the bottom you ll see preference then lxkeymap
[16:33] <badseed> xsaidx, uh ok thank you very much!
[16:34] <xsaidx> badseed: de rien
[16:40] <badseed> eheh mon anglais est si naze?! :p
[17:04] <xsaidx> hello guys
[17:24] <wxl> a belated hello xsaidx
[17:24] <xsaidx> wxl: hello back
[17:25] <wxl> just responding to your hi from 20 minutes ago :D
[17:25] <xsaidx> wxl:  : D
[17:25] <xsaidx> i get this error "PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/mcrypt.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/mcrypt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[17:25] <xsaidx> " when i try to make new project with zf
[17:26] <xsaidx> wxl: any idea why
[17:27] <wxl> off hand no
[17:27] <wxl> do you have mcrypt.so anywhere?
[17:42] <xsaidx> wxl: yes
[17:42] <wxl> where?
[17:42] <xsaidx> i shud remove it
[17:43] <xsaidx> i guess i read in that list mail
[17:44] <xsaidx> wxl: PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/mcrypt.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/mcrypt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[17:44] <xsaidx> wxl: now it dl php files instead of executing em
[17:44] <wxl> huh
[17:45] <wxl> no clues
[17:45] <xsaidx> wxl: when i click on that folder where the index.php shud get run it gets downloaded intead
[17:54] <wxl> xsaidx: again i'm just trying to think through this with you. i don't have php (and really don't want to bother installing it to try to help you figure it out!). that being said.. you are having this symptom of downloading as a result of removing mcrypt.so?
[17:55] <wxl> oh mcrypt is just a library you had in your program (or still do)
[17:56] <xsaidx> yeh i guess i shud activate it
[17:56] <wxl> that should be irrelevant to the behaviior you're observing imho
[17:57] <xsaidx> it says the module doesnt exist
[18:00] <wxl> relevant? http://www.php.net/manual/en/mcrypt.setup.php#97841
[18:00] <wxl> http://www.php.net/manual/en/mcrypt.setup.php#92227
[18:00] <xsaidx> k
[18:00] <xsaidx> tnx
[18:01] <wxl> here too http://randyfay.com/comment/92#comment-92
[18:02] <wxl> yep that last one is the exact problem you're having
[18:02] <wxl> next time google the error first ;)
[18:05] <xsaidx> wxl: the thins is i have already that file in it but still dl files :P
[18:05] <xsaidx> btw i dont get the error now
[18:08] <xsaidx> brb
[18:17] <saml> hey, gnome has take a break thingy that blocks keyboard input after certain amount of time.
[18:17] <saml> does lxde have that?
[18:19] <silverarrow> haven't noticed any
[18:25] <saml> can I change lxpanel location?
[18:25] <saml> i want it to be located at the top, not at the bottom
[18:25] <bioterror> change it ;)
[18:25] <saml> how?
[18:26] <xsaidx> back
[18:27] <xsaidx> saml  click right on it  and there u set it
[18:28] <saml> xsaidx, thanks
[18:29] <xsaidx> uw saml
[18:34] <wxl> xsaidx: http://www.surfthe.us/reference/phptshoot.html
[18:36] <wxl> xsaidx: better yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting_PHP_5
[18:36] <xsaidx> wxl: thanks a lot
[18:36] <wxl> np
[18:36] <wxl> just some creative googling
[18:39] <xsaidx> wxl: well i guess the php5 mod who was missed cus me too i found out earlier i jst need to activate mod php5 but when i try to  it says not xist but ididnt think abt install in it
[18:39] <xsaidx> wxl: thanks again
[18:39] <wxl> kewl well glad we found the problem
[18:40] <wxl> happy programming :D
[18:43] <xsaidx> wxl:  :D
[19:57] <therealmarv> Hello. I installed gedit and still get this one warning while starting. Does anybody know a solution?
[19:57] <therealmarv> (gedit:1965): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-buttons.css:159:10: Expected valid border
[20:01] <wxl> try a different theme
[20:05] <therealmarv> hmmm, how to switch (I suppose gnome?!) theme?
[20:05] <wxl> gtk = gimp tool kit
[20:05] <wxl> what version you on?
[20:08] <th__> hi any command to get the default menu bar back?
[20:08] <th__> removed the right most icon (logoff, reboot...)
[20:08] <bioterror> that was second today
[20:09] <th__> yep.. just installed lubuntu over ubuntu and removed ubuntu-desktop afterwards..
[20:09] <bioterror> open terminal
[20:09] <bioterror> cd .config
[20:09] <bioterror> and remove lxpanel
[20:09] <bioterror> logoff and log back in
[20:09] <bioterror> or sudo service lxdm restart
[20:09] <bioterror> should do the same
[20:11] <Unit193> lxpanelctl restart won't do it?
[20:11] <therealmarv> @wxl Tried to switch themes with gtk-theme-switch Warning message does not dissapear. Seems I have to live with it
[20:11] <meetingology> therealmarv: Error: "wxl" is not a valid command.
[20:11] <wxl> teehee
[20:11] <th___> hehe that went great.. (not)
[20:12] <bioterror> Unit193, does it do it?
[20:12] <th___> well I have a menu bar, but I removed the icon to logoff
[20:12] <wxl> i meant your overall theme in openbox (may affect the same thing, but for safety's sake..)
[20:13] <wxl> use customize look & feel in preferences and it should give you theme options
[20:13] <wxl> moving from gtk2 to 3 cause a few little hiccups with themes and such..
[20:14] <therealmarv> @ wxl. My Lubuntu is pretty new. I tried to switch to e.g. LXDE default (from Lubuntu default) and the warning message dissapeared
[20:14] <meetingology> therealmarv: Error: "wxl." is not a valid command.
[20:14] <therealmarv> sorry
[20:14] <therealmarv> never will write (at) again
[20:15] <th___> can you restore the default menu bar?
[20:15] <therealmarv> so this a kind of a bug in Lubuntu Theme because this message will not appear with the other LXDE Themes
[20:20] <wxl> therealmarv: i'd call that a tad of a bug
[20:23] <wxl> th___: yep
[20:23] <wxl> mv ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel ~/
[20:23] <wxl> (you could also just rm it if you don't want a copy)
[20:23] <th___> thnx
[20:23] <wxl> lxpanelctl restart
[20:25] <th___> mm.. removed it, but the restart does not work
[20:25] <wxl> that's strange
[20:25] <wxl> try log off/on
[20:26] <SAKKED> why did they destroy ubuntu with that unity shell? =(
[20:26] <wxl> SAKKED: no sh**
[20:26] <th___> sakked: I don't know, but apt-install lubuntu-desktop worked for me ;)
[20:29] <SAKKED> :D
[20:29] <SAKKED> th___: u changed ubuntu to lubuntu? D:
[20:29] <SAKKED> :D
[20:29] <wxl> SAKKED: i did that originally too
[20:29] <wxl> but that's really funky
[20:29] <wxl> at that point you have the lxde equivalent of xubuntu
[20:30] <wxl> all the bloat of ubuntu but with a lightweight gui
[20:30] <Unit193> !purelxde | If you must "convert"
[20:30] <wxl> ^^ what Unit193 said
[20:34] <SAKKED> sudo apt-get remove acpi-support acpid adium-theme-ubuntu aisleriot apg app-install-data app-install-data-partner appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt apt-xapian-index apturl apturl-common at-spi2-core avahi-autoipd bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common brltty c2esp checkbox ch
[20:34] <wxl> not here tho
[20:34] <wxl> :D
[20:34] <SAKKED> lol
[20:35] <SAKKED> soz
[20:35] <SAKKED> XD
[20:35] <MichealH> !pastebin | SAKKED
[20:35] <MichealH> :)
[20:35] <SAKKED> so that command turns ubuntu to lubuntu? :D
[20:35] <MichealH> It removes all the bloat
[20:36] <MichealH> And basically leaves you with lubuntu as it is on the CD
[20:36] <Unit193> Eh, best as it can, but a clean wipe+install is better
[20:37] <MichealH> Whoops (I hate Key combos)
[20:37] <SAKKED> http://ubuntuhelp.tumblr.com/post/1301847558/is-there-a-way-i-can-switch-from-my-installed-regular
[20:38] <SAKKED> btw
[20:38] <souliaq> Problem with Gnome-AlsaMixer, I use this in Lubuntu 11.04, I install today Lubuntu 11.10 and this give me errors (don't run, in console mode show Glib errors)
[20:38] <SAKKED> what happened to madrake?
[20:38] <SAKKED> *mandrake
[20:39] <MichealH> SAKKED, That leaves all the regular ubuntu bloat IN, rather than removing it :)
[20:39] <wxl> hahaha
[20:39] <MichealH> souliaq, Does "alsamixer" in Terminal show a mixer?
[20:39] <souliaq> no
[20:39] <MichealH> Hm
[20:39] <souliaq> I launch this in terminal to see errors
[20:40] <SAKKED> ok
[20:40] <souliaq> in Lxde nothing happends
[20:40] <MichealH> souliaq, In 11.04 did it work?
[20:40] <souliaq> sound works well, the default volume changer works well too
[20:40] <souliaq> yes
[20:40] <souliaq> perfectly
[20:40] <SAKKED> wasnt that redhat/madrake the most popular distribution?
[20:40] <SAKKED> in 2005?
[20:40] <SAKKED> not long ago
[20:41] <souliaq> buy I need alsamixer to advanced options
[20:41] <souliaq> for example Audacity is not recording, I need change de in device
[20:42] <souliaq> in LXTerminal gnome-alsamixer shotme a lot of errors of this type:
[20:42] <souliaq> (gnome-alsamixer:1866): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[20:45] <MichealH> souliaq, But does alsamixer actually show a window?
[20:45] <MichealH> Warnigns should not affect it
[20:45] <souliaq> no, nothing of nothing
[20:45] <souliaq> for that reason, I launch alsamixer in LXTerminal
[20:45] <souliaq> I try with normal user
[20:45] <souliaq> and with SUDO
[20:45] <souliaq> the same errors
[20:46] <souliaq> in both users
[20:46] <MichealH> Hm, It could well be a bug then
[20:47] <souliaq> you Install Lubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:47] <souliaq> you installed Lubuntu 11.10?
[20:47] <MichealH> Nope
[20:48] <souliaq> well, then I must wait, at least two months
[20:50] <souliaq> I think i don't  need the gnome alsamixer, Lubuntu comes with alsamixer (graphical in textmode), I don't knew this.
[21:35] <ralinux> hy guys what tool for networking is the best?
[21:35] <uofm49426> anyone have 11.10 and using a bt878 card help me before i downgrade to 10.10
[21:35] <SAKKED> bt878 card?
[21:36] <uofm49426> tv card
[21:36] <uofm49426> bttv and video 4 linux
[21:36] <KM0201> uofm49426: been a while since i used one, but typically it worked almost perfectly w/ linux
[21:36] <KM0201> and vlc
[21:37] <KM0201> never got the remote to work, but using the keyboard to change channels was no big deal
[21:37] <uofm49426> like i tell everyone i dont use the tv card but the fm tuner is used
[21:38] <KM0201> ah, that i don't know
[21:38] <uofm49426> its a pv-48000
[21:39] <uofm49426> it worked in 10.10
[21:40] <uofm49426> have you worked with the bttv file maybe i can past it for you maybe you can think why it dont work
[21:42] <uofm49426> atleast trying to keep me from downgrading
[21:43] <uofm49426> i dont have cable so what games are not on espn 3 or over the air i listen to them on my radio
[21:44] <uofm49426> what is that past website
[21:46] <uofm49426> was card blacklisted sence 10.10
[21:46] <uofm49426> bttv
[21:50] <uofm49426> http://paste.ubuntu.com/711408/ km0201
[21:54] <mark76> Hey ho silverlightning
[21:54] <silverlightning> hi mark76
[21:54] <silverlightning> ; )
[21:54] <mark76> Did you get mplayer sorted out?
[21:55] <silverlightning> not really, but it is manageable
[21:55] <silverlightning> not sure what causes it
[21:57] <mark76> Well that's something
[21:57] <KM0201> uofm49426: unfortunatley, it hs been so long since i used mine, i can't recall mucha bout it, other than it pretty much "just worked" with VLC
[21:57] <silverlightning> I am buying a new fan for my old laptop, to make it less noisy
[21:57] <mark76> I watched that show you sent me
[21:57] <mark76> I could have sworn the guy with the broken limbs was dead
[21:57] <silverlightning> broken limbs?
[21:58] <silverarrow> mark76: and lubuntu is behaving?
[21:59] <mark76> Dunno, I'ma  debhead :D
[21:59] <mark76> I'm a
[22:00] <jwash> hi everyone, i want to uninstall 'ace of penguins' but it also requires me to uninstall 'lubuntu-desktop'. how do i prevent this behavior
[22:01] <jwash> via synaptic
[22:01] <uofm49426> i makes me frustrated when things just  dont work when new releases come out
[22:01] <mark76> lubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[22:01] <jwash> that was just an example, is there a way to only remove 'ace of penguins'?
[22:02] <mark76> Probably
[22:02] <mark76> But you'd have to do it in a terminal
[22:03] <silverarrow> mark76: pure debian?
[22:03] <mark76> Yep :D
[22:03] <silverarrow> is it tricky to get runnig?
[22:03] <mark76> Not really
[22:04] <uofm49426> 11.04 was always stalling when it was inactive in screen saver when i had my acer 5515 when ati stop putting out drivers for xpress 1200 so i keep using intrepid
[22:05] <mark76> Word of advice though. If you're going to try it and you want to install it don't install from a live session.
[22:05] <mark76> Also, their version of LXDE isn't as polished as the Lubuntu one
[22:06] <uofm49426> so far as far as my computers go  intrepid and maverick just worked great
[22:07] <KM0201> silverarrow: no offense, you will never survive on a pure debian install.
[22:08] <mark76> Intrepid's a bit ancient, surely?
[22:08] <KM0201> i'm not even sure if intrepid is still supported
[22:09] <KM0201> actually, im pretty sure its not
[22:09] <uofm49426> hey never had one problem with intrepid it was a good stable os
[22:09] <KM0201> actualy, i thought intrepid sucked.
[22:09] <KM0201> it's what pushed me to Debian
[22:10] <KM0201> hardy wasn't much better
[22:10] <KM0201> 9.04, there was dramatic improvement, and they've continued that ..
[22:10] <KM0201> until they started this unity mess
[22:12] <uofm49426> is there a way i can install 10.10 and 11.10  on 2 different partions
[22:12] <uofm49426> so i can work on why my tv card works in one and not the other
[22:14] <uofm49426> i have a free 49 gb hard drive i use as extra storage between windows and linux
[22:15] <smw> uofm49426, yeah, when you install you just need to make sure to not overwrite the other partition.
[22:15] <smw> uofm49426, http://askubuntu.com/questions/13977/dual-booting-two-ubuntu-versions may work
[22:16] <smw> manually partition or make sure it is using the right hard drive during install
[22:29] <PereZ> Hi people... I need a little help =P
[22:29] <PereZ> I'm using Lubuntu 11.10, and always that I press the Super button, the menu opens... How can I disable that??
[22:41] <uofm49426> hey worked i have both 11.10 and 10.10 on 2 partions same hard drive
[22:42] <uofm49426> all for fm radio lol
[22:42] <silverarrow> great
[22:42] <silverarrow> and the tv card?
[22:44] <uofm49426> it worked in 10.10 before i went to 11.10
[22:44] <uofm49426> 11.10 cant get it to work
[22:44] <silverarrow> I see. Have you had a chance to test it yet?
[22:44] <silverarrow> after the new install I mean
[22:47] <KM0201> PereZ: did you enable that somehow, cuz i don't have that.
[22:48] <uofm49426> km0201 can you tell me my paste number
[22:49] <KM0201> 711408
[22:49] <uofm49426> thanks
[22:50] <PereZ> KM0201: I have no idea how I did that... =P
[22:53] <uofm49426> brb
[22:55] <koulamaras> Hello all! I would like to ask: What is the option "lubuntu netbook" at the login screen? It doesn't seem to do anything. I'm using lubuntu 11.10, upgraded from 11.04
[22:56] <Unit193> Lubuntu Netbook worked on 11.04, but there is a bug in LXDM that prevents it from working on 11.10 without the work around
[22:58] <koulamaras> the workaround is to add the lubuntu ppa?
[22:58] <Unit193> Nope, edit a file. Do you really want it? I'll pull up the workaround
[22:59] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Lubuntu_Netbook_not_launching
[23:00] <koulamaras> OK thank you very much!
[23:14] <mykel> help please---volumne control is greyed out and no sound
[23:18] <mykel> anyone care to help, please
[23:22] <mykel> lubuntu 11.10
[23:53] <uofm49426> yes tv card working in maverick but not i the 11.10