[11:41] <zniavre_> hello
[11:42] <zniavre_> what is the command line to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[11:42] <zniavre_> please*
[11:43] <arand_> you just sed sources.list for now. And yeah, count on it breaking..
[11:44] <zniavre_> ok thank you
[11:44] <zniavre_> tty are still available or everything is broken ?
[11:45] <arand_> Well, atm there's very few changes at all, but it is likely to mess up a couple of times in the wild early dev cycle, s'what I meant
[11:48] <zniavre_> ok
[12:55] <FernandoMiguel> good afternoon folks
[12:56] <AlexForce22> hi this is my first time using IRC
[12:57] <AlexForce22> hi drussell
[12:57] <AlexForce22> hi
[12:57] <AlexForce22> anyone here
[13:02] <drussell> AlexForce22: hiya
[13:02] <Pici> AlexForce22: This channel isn't really active as 12.04 development has barely started, #ubuntu-offtopic exists for offtopic chat.
[13:03] <AlexForce22> ok
[13:03] <AlexForce22> i do apologise
[13:03] <AlexForce22> am new to irc so am tryin to find list of channel but help command dont give me the list
[13:04] <Ian_Corne> there's #ubuntu
[13:04] <Ian_Corne> which will probably be for you
[13:04] <Ian_Corne> :)
[13:04] <Ian_Corne> unless you're already on 12.04
[13:05] <AlexForce22> no
[13:05] <AlexForce22> am on 10.10
[13:05] <Ian_Corne> then i'd advise you to seek help in #ubuntu
[13:05] <AlexForce22> 12.04 is the next LTS... cant wait to start learing ubuntu standard
[13:06] <AlexForce22> how do i quit.
[13:06] <Ian_Corne> type /join #ubuntu
[13:06] <Ian_Corne> actually it all depends on your client
[13:06] <Stanley00> AlexForce22: type /part to quit a channel
[13:06] <Ian_Corne> but that will probably work i guess
[13:06] <AlexForce22> thanks, is there a way to view all channels.
[13:06] <Ian_Corne> there is, but don't do that
[13:06] <Ian_Corne> there's way to many channels
[13:06] <Stanley00> AlexForce22: type /msg alis help to get a list
[13:06] <AlexForce22> ok
[13:07] <AlexForce22> later guys.. i am a C/C++ coder, slow but surely changin my friends to Ubuntu.. U guys rock.
[13:07] <Ian_Corne> :)
[13:07] <AlexForce22> later.. hope to be on ur team soon.
[13:37] <carli2> i can host a NAT connection with network-manager for 2 seconds
[13:37] <carli2> it works fine, but after 2 seconds, it disconnects
[13:37] <carli2> i reported this bug a month ago
[13:37] <carli2> but it was not fixed
[13:38] <carli2> is there anyone working on this problem?
[13:39] <carli2> or do you defend this as a "designed feature"?
[13:44] <FernandoMiguel> carli2: on Precise? or 11.10?
[13:50] <carli2> FernandoMiguel: 11.10. it works on all older ubuntu versions
[13:50] <carli2> and i hope, it will work in precise again
[13:53] <FernandoMiguel> carli2: for support on 11.10 you must try #ubuntu not +1
[13:53] <FernandoMiguel> you can try NM ppa and see if it is fixed there , on trunk
[13:55] <carli2> okay
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> updating my ati machine to 12.04
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> fglrx is broken under 11.10 anyways :p
[14:22] <FernandoMiguel> Ian_Corne: WOOT WOOT
[14:26] <bjsnider> fglrx isn't broken, it's functionally challenged
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> :D
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> I'm on a 6950
[14:28] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: how is vdpau support?
[14:29] <bjsnider> in what, fglrx?
[14:30] <FernandoMiguel> no
[14:30] <FernandoMiguel> nvidia
[14:31] <FernandoMiguel> or nouveua
[14:33] <bjsnider> you continued your unbroken streak of misspelling nouveau
[14:33] <bjsnider> vdpau in nvidia is great
[14:34] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: one day.... one day, ill get it
[14:34] <FernandoMiguel> is the boot times better with BLOB?
[14:34] <FernandoMiguel> it sucked last time
[14:34] <bjsnider> need to take a french class
[14:34] <FernandoMiguel> I love my 10 sec boot
[14:35] <FernandoMiguel> I did... for 5 years
[14:35] <bjsnider> not sure if boot times are affected
[14:35] <FernandoMiguel> it used to be at least 3x slower
[14:35] <FernandoMiguel> but ill try it
[14:35] <FernandoMiguel> need to quiet my GPU fans too
[14:35] <FernandoMiguel> they are always ON
[14:35] <bjsnider> well, adaptive power management works well
[14:36] <bjsnider> i bought a card without a fan to minimize noise
[14:36] <FernandoMiguel> ahah
[14:36] <FernandoMiguel> it's a laptop
[14:36] <FernandoMiguel> those aren't an option
[14:36] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: maybe I'm missing some app to manage power
[14:37] <FernandoMiguel> I've been cannibalizing my system, stripping everything to a minimal install.
[14:37] <FernandoMiguel> ubuntu-desktop bring too much stuff I don't care for
[14:37] <bjsnider> could be
[14:37] <FernandoMiguel> and I made it worse by having other -desktop meta installed ... like kde and lubuntu
[14:41] <akgraner> Reminder: Contributing to Ubuntu at a Local level: A Roadmap - Randall Ross (rrnwexec) starts at 1500 UTC
[15:01] <bjsnider> akgraner, starts where?
[15:02] <akgraner> #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[15:02] <akgraner> bjsnider, ^^^^
[15:51] <akgraner> Up Next  at 1600 UTC in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom chat for Ubuntu Open Week is Getting the most out of LoCo Teams Portal - mhall119
[15:52] <mhall119> and nigelb
[17:08] <sharpshooter> Hai all !! I changed my mouse icon theme , after that my new  theme only works with my web browser !
[20:08] <gnomefreak> there is no way to remove libqtcore4 and keep unity2d
[20:09] <gnomefreak> trying to rid system of kde apps
[20:14] <jtaylor> no
[20:14] <jtaylor> unity2d is based on qt
[20:14] <jtaylor> and qt != kde
[20:14] <jtaylor> kde is based on qt thats all
[20:15] <gnomefreak> yeah i know i just want kde off systeme well as much as possible. i guess synaptic or software center is best
[20:16] <jtaylor> removing kderuntime should mostly do the trick
[20:17] <jtaylor> or kde-runtime-data
[20:17] <bjsnider> the others should then be orphaned
[20:17] <jtaylor> => autoremove
[20:18] <gnomefreak> automoc removes alot of kde apps
[20:18] <bjsnider> that's the idea
[20:18] <gnomefreak> ok ill add that
[20:28] <gnomefreak> it seems kubuntu-desktop installs a crap load of apps and libs.
[20:29] <Ian_Corne> obviously..
[20:33] <gnomefreak> >450 but the looks of it that does not include important libqt* but it will clean it enough for my purpose
[20:33] <gnomefreak> ill be back need smoke
[20:47] <bjsnider> the raison d'etre of the -desktop metapackages is so you can install the whole gnome/kde/whatever environment, so naturally there are going to be a lot of packages attached to each one
[20:49] <FernandoMiguel> A LOT
[20:49] <gnomefreak> yeah but i didnt expect that many. like all the educational apps. i would have thought that would have been a different meta package
[20:51] <genii-around> gnomefreak: Maybe your APT::Install-Recommends or APT::Install-Suggests is set
[20:51] <gnomefreak> its possable but cant check atm too many things going at once  :(
[20:56] <gnomefreak> be back upgrade is on :)
[21:16] <gnomefreak> i cant find a way to format a mem stick, where did it go?
[21:17] <gnomefreak> used to right click and the choice was there. now right click offers open* eject safely remove
[21:17] <gnomefreak> and the menu isnt helpful either
[21:18] <gnomefreak> any ideas?
[21:18] <jbicha> gnomefreak: you can format with Disk Utility
[21:19] <gnomefreak> looking. thanks
[21:21] <FernandoMiguel> gnomefreak: or gparted
[21:23] <gnomefreak> i got it thanks guys