[06:55] <philipballew> can I make mailto links open in gmail?
[06:55] <bioterror> you're the one with ubuntu host ;)
[06:56] <bioterror> ps. your question does not make a point
[06:57] <bioterror> if I click mailto:fooo@fooo.com it will tell xdg to use mail client
[06:57] <bioterror> and if you've configured your mail client to use gmail user preferences, why not
[06:57] <bioterror> but your browser does not automatically go to gmail.com, log in and do all the magic for you
[06:58] <bioterror> my evolution has gmail configured and when I click mailto: -link on webpage, it will use gmail
[07:18] <philipballew> bioterror, what do you mean i have a ubuntu host?
[07:18] <philipballew> :)
[07:19] <philipballew> yeah. i know i'd have to configure it. I just dont wanna have evloution. I uninstalled it\
[07:20] <Snicksie> philipballew, he means your mask :)
[07:20] <Snicksie> * [philipballew] (~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew): philip ballew
[07:20] <philipballew> ah, yes! that
[07:20] <philipballew> they gave that to me!!!
[07:20] <Snicksie> nice :p
[07:20] <Snicksie> i don't have one :p
[07:21] <M0hi> OT = #ubuntu-neginners-team ;)
[07:21] <philipballew> you should become a ubuntu member
[07:21] <M0hi> err beginners*
[07:22] <philipballew> M0hi, OT?
[07:23] <philipballew> Its late at night :)
[07:24] <philipballew> well, actually not everywhere, my bad
[09:21] <s-fox> Hello.
[09:52] <robb_> hello
[10:18] <obarthelemy> Hi. I'm having problems with access rights when mounting an external USB drive. Only root seems to be able to work on it. I've been fumbling for hours in /etc/fstab, I can't seem to get it right.
[10:18] <obarthelemy> there's 2 partitions on the drive: an ntfs one, and an ext4
[10:20] <geirha> Which one are you having trouble with?
[10:21] <obarthelemy> the ext4 one for sure, let me test the ntfs on too
[10:22] <geirha> Is the ext4 newly created?
[10:22] <obarthelemy> it's got some stuff in it already
[10:23] <obarthelemy> the NTFS on is fine
[10:23] <geirha> Are you using it on multiple computers?
[10:24] <obarthelemy> yes, i'll share it via samba
[10:24] <geirha> Ok, but you always connect it (via USB) to the one computer?
[10:24] <obarthelemy> chown tells me it's owned by root, group root, and RWX, R-X, R-X
[10:24] <obarthelemy> yes
[10:25] <obarthelemy> yes it will be connected mostly to that one
[10:25] <geirha> sudo chown -R "$USER:" /path/to/mount/point   # will make you the owner of the filesystem and all the files it contains.
[10:27] <obarthelemy> hey ! it worked !
[10:27] <obarthelemy> thank you so much, I was going crazy
[10:28] <obarthelemy> even works writing to it from the network :-)
[10:31] <obarthelemy> Have a nice day !
[10:32] <geirha> There's one thing though
[10:32] <geirha> The files on that filesystem are now owned by the uid of your user.
[10:33] <geirha> When you connect it to another machine, the files will be owned by whichever user has that uid on that system.
[10:34] <geirha> So you'll want to make sure your user has the same uid on all systems you intend to connect it to.
[11:12] <coalwater> any ideas how to upgrade using my usb without restarting, i forgot the iso at home :D i don't want to use the internet
[11:12] <bioterror> what?
[11:13] <coalwater> i  have an oneric image on my usb, when i tried booting it wanted to do a new installation, or install alongside, but i want to upgrade
[11:14] <bioterror> is there a real reason for not to use do-release-upgrade for example?
[11:19] <coalwater> well, let's say the internet is kinda limited right now and i don't want to take up all the bw
[11:20] <coalwater> sry internet dc'd :s
[11:20] <bioterror> mount that iso image and use it as a source then
[11:22] <bioterror> deb file:// and so
[11:23] <coalwater> the problem is that i don't have an iso, i have a bootable usb
[11:23] <bioterror> what's the difference?
[11:24] <bioterror> you have .deb's there too, right?
[11:27] <coalwater> http://paste.ubuntu.com/710793/
[11:27] <coalwater> this is the ls
[11:28] <bioterror> coalwater, http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ how it differs from that?
[11:29] <coalwater> ok so what do i need to do
[11:31] <bioterror> !sources.list
[11:31] <ubot2> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:21] <geirha> coalwater: The desktop iso contains only a few packages, mainly drivers. The alternative iso contains packages though.
[12:46] <coalwater> geirha: i think i'll just wait a it and do a normal online update, this is turning to be harder than i care to care about right now :D too much work to do today lol
[12:46] <coalwater> thanks anyway :)
[12:57] <AlexForce22> hi beginners
[13:00] <AlexForce22> INFO
[13:04] <coalwater> hi AlexForce22
[13:04] <AlexForce22> hi
[13:08] <AlexForce22> wat version Ubuntu u guys have
[13:09] <coalwater> idk, depending on each person, most would probably have 11.10, and 11.04 and 10.04
[13:09] <coalwater> or* not and :D
[13:10] <AlexForce22> wat you guys think about 11.10.
[13:10] <coalwater> i personally like it
[13:11] <coalwater> i have it at home, but didn't upgrade my work pc yet
[13:12] <AlexForce22> i will not be updating as yet.
[13:13] <AlexForce22> LIST
[13:13] <AlexForce22> so wats the topic guys
[13:14] <coalwater> um
[13:14] <coalwater> bye
[13:14] <AlexDevilLX> ikonia: Are you here
[13:57] <AlexForce22> hi guys
[14:00] <coalwater> hi again AlexForce22
[14:06] <AlexForce22> so wat u guys usually do in here
[14:07] <coalwater> this is a support channel, for helping people who have questions, offtopic chats are on #ubuntu-beginners-team
[14:25] <AlexForce22> oh thats nice. so in the mean time, jus wanna say that ubuntu is awesome.
[14:29] <coalwater> well glad that you like it lol
[14:32] <AlexForce22> another think are you a developer
[14:44] <coalwater> AlexForce22: actually i am
[14:46] <AlexForce22> thats nice.. how man years now
[15:15] <coalwater> AlexForce22: i don't really remmember, but my first program was like 8 years ago or something in college
[15:15] <coalwater> or my first coding experience
[15:18] <AlexForce22> ok... i am lookingg for a place to learn about ubuntu coding standard..
[15:26] <rkessel> hey tried to install update of 11.10 and it hung for 8 hours. Then I did a clean install and it still hung up
[15:27] <holstein> rkessel: when you say 'hung-up' what do you mean?
[15:27] <holstein> did you try it live?
[15:27] <coalwater> AlexForce22: u could check the dev pages on the wikis
[15:27] <holstein> its a really nice, and easy troubleshooting step to just try the operating systems like
[15:28] <holstein> live**
[15:29] <rkessel> message "waiting for processes to end" preceded by 3 dots
[15:29] <rkessel> on terminal screen and did nothing more
[15:30] <holstein> rkessel: what process?
[15:30] <holstein> how does it run live?
[15:31] <rkessel> same thing it installs to a point and then it just waits. I'm seriously thinking of a new distro
[15:31] <holstein> think what you want
[15:31] <holstein> rkessel: how does it run live?
[15:31] <holstein> do you get to the desktop?
[15:31] <rkessel> yes it never boots
[15:32] <holstein> rkessel: well, thats what we should look at
[15:32] <holstein> thats how the install will go too
[15:32] <holstein> rkessel: im going to guess its something to do with your graphics card
[15:32] <holstein> this is probably something that will come up with other distro's too, so solving it here on buntu will help you where ever you end up
[15:33] <holstein> rkessel: i would try hitting shift at the first load, and try passing the 'nomodeset' option
[15:33] <rkessel> i have nomodeset?
[15:34] <holstein> rkessel: you have already done that?
[15:34] <holstein> i dont know what you mean by 'i have no modeset?'
[15:34] <holstein> you mean, you are surprised that that option exists? or you have already implemented it?
[15:35] <rkessel> supprised
[15:35] <rkessel> suprised!
[15:35] <holstein> you should try some settings like that til you get to the desktop *live*
[15:36] <rkessel> i need to understand when installing no such option arrives. I have a dual boot with windows
[15:36] <holstein> rkessel: right, when its first booting
[15:36] <holstein> it = the live installer disc
[15:36] <holstein> you'll see a little icon down at the bottom
[15:36] <holstein> thats when you *should* be able to hit the shift key
[15:37] <holstein> there, you should be presented with the older looking interface
[15:37] <holstein> select language and whatever..
[15:37] <holstein> you'll see options at the bottom (F2, F3, F4 whatever)
[15:37] <holstein> i think its under F4, maybe F6
[15:37] <holstein> the 'nomodeset' option, as well as others
[15:38] <rkessel> i think i know what you mean now
[15:38] <rkessel> thank you
[15:38] <holstein> you can try that... you migh also be able to google "ubuntu my graphics card model" and learn something helpful
[15:39] <rkessel> i have an NVIDIA card. it works well with windows but not ubuntu
[15:39] <holstein> sure
[15:39] <holstein> things work well with whatever the vendors support
[15:40] <holstein> you should let nvidia know you are having issues with it in linux
[15:40] <rkessel> no I will stay with windows
[15:40] <holstein> stay where ever you like
[15:40] <holstein> im just saying, ubuntu/linux doesnt support *any* hardare
[15:40] <holstein> just like windows
[15:40] <holstein> support is provided by vendors
[15:41] <holstein> or, reverse engineering (for linux)
[15:41] <holstein> which is not easy AFAIK
[15:41] <holstein> you say 'it works well in windows but not ubuntu'
[15:41] <holstein> but that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:41] <holstein> ubuntu supports what it can
[15:41] <holstein> just like windows does
[15:41] <rkessel> i'm afraid ubuntu is out
[15:41] <holstein> rkessel: im not
[15:41] <holstein> do what you like
[15:42] <holstein> im just telling you whats going on
[15:42] <holstein> so you know
[15:42] <holstein> and you dont say 'ubuntu doesnt support my hardware'
[15:42] <holstein> when, its nvidia that is not giving you support, or allowing ubuntu to provide you with support
[15:42] <holstein> nividia is providing the support you are taking advantage of in windows
[15:43] <rkessel> I've been using that's a bunch of crap. I have been using this machine with ubuntu for 5 years and have been having all kinds of problems with 11.0 installation. I think i will go back to an old release
[15:44] <holstein> im running 10.04 right now
[15:44] <holstein> thats the LTS
[15:44] <holstein> LTS = long term support
[15:44] <holstein> i plan on running it til 12.04 releases, although i maintain testing installs of the other versions
[15:45] <rkessel> i guess that's the best solution because narwhale sucks
[15:45] <holstein> rkessel: oneiric is the current release... 11.10
[15:46] <holstein> lots of folks work really hard on all those releases though
[15:46] <holstein> to provide them for us
[15:46] <holstein> if you are having issues, the best thing to do for you, and others with that hardware, is to file bugs, and follow up
[15:47] <rkessel> i can't oneiric to work and that is my problem i was working with narwhale and can't work with oneiric
[15:47] <holstein> saying 'it sucks' is a strong opinion you are entitled to, but know that some of those folks that work hard on these releases are probably here
[15:47] <rkessel> I have been working with linux since the 80's no problem
[15:48] <holstein> OK, then you understand how it works, volunteering ones time for a project like this, and how to properly file bugs
[15:48] <rkessel> i'm venting now and find that there is no help for this. I'm sorry
[15:49] <rkessel> good bye
[15:49] <holstein> rkessel: there is though
[19:38] <bobweaver> I have a konsole question I am playing with /usr/share/applications right now and am trying to set up a menu and also icons and commands to start this is where I am having trouble  I have a welcome screen in .bashrc and I run konsole --workdir <name of dir> --hold -e "<command>"   is there a way to drop the hold after say 2 sec? This would be awesome because It would be a great work around for the welcomescreen in .bashrc
[19:39] <bioterror> !wait
[19:39] <ubot2> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[19:39] <bioterror> daaamn
[19:39] <geirha> bobweaver: What does --hold do?
[19:40] <bioterror> bobweaver, man wait
[19:40] <bobweaver> stop the screen
[19:40] <geirha> bioterror: You mean sleep...
[19:40] <bioterror> what sleep?
[19:40] <bobweaver> I tred sleep also
[19:41] <bobweaver> nothing
[19:41] <geirha> wait waits for jobs
[19:41] <bobweaver> crashes program because of welcome screen
[19:41] <bobweaver> thanks
[19:41] <geirha> I don't understand what "stop the screen" means
[19:41] <bioterror> honestly
[19:42] <bobweaver> geirha:   konsole --help-all
[19:42] <bioterror> why you want to start a terminal program and have "ascii" welcome screen
[19:42] <bobweaver> welcome screen is more about calender and weather
[19:42] <bioterror> !conky
[19:42] <ubot2> Factoid 'conky' not found
[19:42] <bioterror> :o
[19:43] <bioterror> use conky for that ;)
[19:43] <bobweaver> also I wrote the bash rc and the weather program
[19:43] <bobweaver> so attached
[19:43] <bobweaver> :>)
[19:43] <bioterror> internet is full of conky guides and things
[19:43] <bioterror> that will be shown on top of your wallpaper
[19:43] <bioterror> better than terminal
[19:44] <bobweaver> I also have conky installed
[19:44] <bobweaver> and love it
[19:45] <bobweaver> but I also love it in the terminal and there is always a work around in the open source scence or that is what I heard
[19:45]  * bobweaver looks at wait 
[19:47] <geirha> bobweaver: What should happen after two seconds? the terminal should close or the shell prompt should appear?
[19:48] <bobweaver> the command should be exacuded
[19:48] <bobweaver> to avoid the welcome screen
[19:48] <bobweaver> as it is now it release command but then the welcome screen takes over
[19:49] <geirha> bashrc won't be sourced for a non-interactive shell
[19:56] <geirha> Anyway, I'm afraid I still don't understand :/
[20:10] <bobweaver> I allmost have it :>)
[20:12] <geirha> do tell :)
[20:13] <bobweaver> konsole --workdir /opt/enumeration/routing/0trace/ -e '/bin/bash -lc "cd /opt/enumeration/routing/0trace/;sleep -5;./0trace.sh;bash"'
[20:14] <bobweaver> that is what I have came up with so far
[20:14] <bobweaver> but sleep is not working
[20:14] <bobweaver> neither is ./0trace.sh
[20:15] <geirha> sleep 5, not -5
[20:16] <Caspase3> What does loading a wireless module with sudo modprobe [module] nohwcrypt=1 do?
[20:19] <bobweaver> girha I tried sitll nothing I even took welcome screen away and still nothing <- but that makes me feel good I am on my way
[20:26] <geirha> Caspase3: Don't know. The documentation of that particular module should explain what it will do when nohwcrypt=1 is passed to it.
[20:26] <geirha> bobweaver: What do you mean by nothing?
[20:27] <bobweaver> it dont help any
[20:27] <geirha> bobweaver: replace the ;bash at the end with ;read;bash
[20:27] <geirha> read will wait for you to hit enter
[20:27] <bobweaver> will do thaks
[20:27] <bobweaver> thanks
[20:27] <geirha> before it runs the next command
[20:31] <bobweaver> omg I am so close
[20:32] <bobweaver> read;bash smae thing
[20:32] <bobweaver> smae *
[20:32] <bobweaver> argh
[20:32] <bobweaver> same *
[20:32]  * bobweaver has fat fingers :>) 
[20:36] <bobweaver> \0/
[20:37] <bobweaver> thanks you guys are all rockstars in my eyes !
[20:42] <bioterror> we are junkies in your eyes :(
[20:55] <bobweaver> lol bioterror
[20:56] <bobweaver> thanks not what I meant :>)
[23:19] <AlexForce22> 				thanks for the support today. Contact you another time
[23:19]  * AlexForce22 leaving