[11:11] <GirlyGirl> Yesterday I raised this issue here and was told that it would be dealt with later "Hi, could you please speak to oxymoron on #kubuntu. For the past days he sends a lot of inappropriate remarks like "which dumbass developer did that". Also in his support questions he uses a lot of ":d :s :O  xD..." its kind of anoying. There are many other Kubuntu community members who would like him to change his attitude a bit." Please note that this person has a
[11:11] <GirlyGirl> problem with sound on kubuntu. But his rants are going a bit too far. He keeps complaining in the support channel.
[11:13] <LjL> i think #kubuntu is a bit understaffed :\
[11:15] <GirlyGirl> But I feel he is wasting peoples time ... yesterday he was cursing developers and in the end it turned out his sound was simply muted on alsa
[11:17] <LjL> GirlyGirl: have you tried taking him aside and telling him calmly about these issues? it may help or it may not, but given i'm not a #kubuntu op, i can't do much else
[11:18] <GirlyGirl> Ok, I'll consider it
[13:10] <AlexDevilLX> Hi, why cant i join #ubuntu?
[13:10] <LjL> let me see
[13:12] <AlexDevilLX> Hello?
[13:13] <LjL> be patient please, the bantracker is being slow
[13:14] <AlexDevilLX> Ok
[13:14] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: it appears you were being persistently offtopic in #ubuntu
[13:15] <AlexDevilLX> How?
[13:15] <AlexDevilLX> OK, when will i be unbanned?
[13:16] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: there is no set time, we need to discuss it. do you think you know what #ubuntu is for?
[13:16] <AlexDevilLX> Support channel
[13:17] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: yes. so since there are about 1600 people there talking, it's very important to keep it strictly about support
[13:17] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: it's my understanding that you're currently banned from #ubuntu-offtopic. do you understand that does not give you the freedom to use #ubuntu for that instead?
[13:17] <AlexDevilLX> Yes
[13:18] <AlexDevilLX> Nope, i was banned in  offtopic and asked why i was banned in #ubuntu
[13:18] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: ok, that's an easy mistake to make. i assume you know now that the correct channel to ask about bans is this one
[13:18] <AlexDevilLX> yes
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> when i tried to connect to ubuntu it brought me here
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> occasionaly
[13:19] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: are you familiar with the channel guidelines and CoC, just to ensure you don't get banned again for other reason?
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> CoC is Codecs
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> Yes
[13:19] <LjL> no, by CoC i mean the Code of Conduct
[13:19] <LjL> !coc
[13:19] <LjL> !guidelines
[13:20] <LjL> please have a read before i remove the ban
[13:20] <AlexDevilLX> LjL, sorry english is not my natiove language so i made a mistake, but i meant that
[13:20] <LjL> ok
[13:21] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: you should be able to join #ubuntu now
[13:21] <AlexDevilLX> what about #ubuntu-offtopic?
[13:21] <AlexDevilLX> No, i cant join
[13:24] <LjL> AlexDevilLX: uh, i can't find another active ban, are you sure you can't join? try just typing /join #ubuntu   -   and as for #ubuntu-offtopic, i don't feel at liberty to remove that ban now, you should talk to the specific operator who banned you there
[13:24] <AlexDevilLX> #ubuntu-beginners
[13:24] <AlexDevilLX> sorry, i tried to copy
[13:25] <AlexDevilLX> nope, i cant join
[13:25] <AlexDevilLX> And what happened to me in #ubuntu-tu
[13:25] <AlexDevilLX> #ubuntu-ru
[13:26] <LjL> i don't know that, i'm not an operator there, only in the english channels
[13:26] <LjL> also i have no clue what else to remove to let you rejoin :\
[13:27] <AlexDevilLX> Heh, not freenode server?
[13:28] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: You can't join #ubuntu still ?
[13:28] <AlexDevilLX> Nope
[13:29] <AlexDevilLX> And is my ban sticked to my IP?
[13:29] <LjL> Pici: fyi i've just joined the server he's on too and there is no ban i can see there either
[13:30] <AlexDevilLX> Ok, i'll restart pidgin
[13:31] <AlexDevilLX> Ok, i got on ubuntu
[13:32] <LjL> cool
[13:32] <AlexDevilLX> And how can i be unbanned on offtopic?
[13:33] <AlexDevilLX> btinfo
[13:36] <AlexDevilLX> And how can i get unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[13:49] <LjL> you need to wait for ikonia to be around. come back in a couple of hours maybe
 ola ikonia bruda
[18:22] <Pici> not worth responding to
[18:22] <oCean> ^what's his name again?
[18:22] <Myrtti> uhuh
[18:22] <oCean> been so long i forgot :/
[18:22] <Pici> I don't remember, and I'm glad that I've forgotten.
[18:23] <oCean> true :)
[18:23] <Myrtti> that looks like our hungarian troll hunziker or whateva
[18:23] <Myrtti> phew
[18:23] <Pici> This guy has been doing this for over a year.
[18:23] <Myrtti> oh yes
[18:32] <Flannel> Alright, who upset ubottu?
[18:33] <pangolin> has anyone been feeding her?
[18:35] <Pici> Its getting: Closing Link: gateway/shell/ubottu/session (Too many user connections (global))
[18:35] <genii-around> K1 and K2 are also having issues. Mostly "not allowed to run"
[18:35] <Myrtti> needs more ilines
[18:37] <genii-around> is AlexDevilLX banned from #ubuntu-ru ?
[18:38] <genii-around> nvm he just answered that himself
[18:38] <Pici> Ban against *!~alexdevil@* matches AlexDevilLX!~AlexDevil@77.123.227.47
[18:38] <jussi> mrgh, bad things happening just as Im about to go to bed :/
[18:38] <Pici> Looks like its working now.
[19:34] <Daskreech> Hello
[19:34] <Daskreech> I just amended a factoid
[19:37] <genii-around> !gmail
[19:37] <genii-around> Hm
[19:37] <Daskreech> Made an addition for Kmail
[19:56] <Daskreech> genii-around: thoughts on the addition?
[19:59] <genii-around> Daskreech: I don't see any issue with it, myself
[19:59] <Daskreech> ok
[19:59] <Daskreech>  Alright
[20:53] <jforjackjohnson> bah.
[20:53] <Daskreech> Agreed
[20:54] <Myrtti> Daskreech: thanks for your input, we'll see if we edit the factoid. Was there anything else you needed help with?
[20:55] <Daskreech> Nope just wanted to know if that should have been edited for -#kubuntu or if it should be behind a urlshortening because it's wordy
[20:55] <jforjackjohnson> You have caught me in a Catch 22. I have been banned from numerous channels, and it is winding me up such that I cannot get unbanned.
[20:56] <h00k> @login
[20:56] <h00k> @btlogin
[20:56] <Myrtti> Daskreech: thanks, we'll mull it over and see what we can do. We do have a non-idling policy for this channel so if you wouldn't mind, we'll get back to you.
[20:56] <Daskreech> Sure
[20:56] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: we're not responsible for your actions :(
[20:57] <Daskreech> PM me if you need anything
[20:57] <Myrtti> thiebaude: is there something we can do to help you tonight?
[20:57] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: is there something you'd like to specifically discuss today?
[20:57] <thiebaude> nope just checking things out, but thanks have  agood night
[20:58] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I'm currently checking the bantracker for specifics.
[20:58] <jforjackjohnson> I know. I am responsible for most of my actions. I say most, because some of my actions are involuntary and quite much spur of the moment.
[20:59] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I may recommend /parting channels before these things happen
[20:59] <jforjackjohnson> hmmm
[21:01] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I don't see you banned, currently.
[21:01] <jforjackjohnson> well from #ubuntu-offtopic, I am banned.
[21:01] <jforjackjohnson> check bans for 188.220.172.173.
[21:03] <h00k> ah, there we go.
[21:04] <jforjackjohnson> I'm idling cuz you just checked.
[21:04] <jforjackjohnson> h00k, here we go with what? a debt of 1p?
[21:05] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: standby, please, I'm reviewing the information.
[21:06] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: do you understand why you were banned?
[21:06] <jforjackjohnson> Because people messed me over.
[21:07] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: You're responsible for your actions on IRC, it isn't anyone else's fault
[21:07] <Myrtti> "smart" answers usually don't help your case
[21:07] <jforjackjohnson> I know. But find a lemon and I'll eat it!
[21:08] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I see flooding, spamming, nickspamming, plenty of warnings, flooding again, ignoring ops
[21:09] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: after two removals
[21:10] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I don't think I'm comfortable in removing this, especially the response about blaming others 'messing you over' and not being responsible for all of your actions
[21:10] <jforjackjohnson> Well, stress is the CORE reason why this happens. If you go to ##just-anything-sane, you will be subject to a removal.
[21:13] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: as I said, perhaps you should consider /parting channels when this happens, or this 'compulsion' to troll
[21:15] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: you've given me no reason to remove your ban, so, please /part this channel and come back when you're ready to discuss your responsibility for your actions
[21:15] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I may suggest 2 weeks timeframe, at least.
[21:17] <jforjackjohnson> I have an idea. See what I behave like in the upcoming minutes in those channels. Likely stressed due to this diabolical debacle.
[21:18] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I'm not for that idea, I'm sorry. You need to understand your responsibility in the channels.
[21:18] <jforjackjohnson> I know. But find a lemon and I'll eat it!
[21:18] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: I don't understand the analogy.
[21:19] <jforjackjohnson> It's a standard SPFL response. That's STRESSED PERSON FROM LIFE response.
[21:21] <jforjackjohnson> Lemons. lubuntu-offtopic is not very crowded.
[21:21] <jforjackjohnson> Your -offtopic is a huge city hall with very VERY strict laws on who gets to speak and how - you see there is no freedom of speech here.
[21:22] <jforjackjohnson> Or there.
[21:23] <h00k> ubottu: tell jforjackjohnson about freespeech
[21:23] <h00k> jforjackjohnson: please /part the channel and return after two weeks.
[21:24] <jforjackjohnson> Yea. You really think I'll sign that contract? No. So keep your contract writing pen closed and your message writing pen open.
[21:25] <jforjackjohnson> You want a slogan to use against me? "boring trolls are boring" - duh!
[21:25] <Myrtti> you're not making any sense
[21:26] <Myrtti> you will not be unbanned in #ubuntu-offtopic for now
[21:26] <Myrtti> please leave
[21:26] <jforjackjohnson> Wut? Pfft. Can I speak to your supervisor?
[21:27] <elky> he knows how to reach us. he has before to whinge that we made him depressed for stopping him last time.
[22:19] <gry> pm spam from Anonymous-hacker
[22:19] <Flannel> gry: Oh?
[22:19] <Flannel> That explains this next guy
 ju2ef: just type /ignore Anonymous-hacker
[22:20] <gry> Anonymous-hacker> hiafhoihdfohasdiofhioasdhfioasdh
[22:20] <gry> ^ pm
[22:27] <gry> apparently he rejoined as llllllllllllllll and PM-spammed again, then quit
[22:28] <ju2ef> Hi there is a bunch of trolls on Ubuntu channel, can I turn off priv somehow?
[22:30] <knome> ju2ef, not unless you register to freenode. the solution should be to remove the trolls from the channel though.
[22:30] <ju2ef> OK, thanks
[22:31] <knome> i'm not opping at #ubuntu though, but i'm sure some ops will pop up soon enough
[22:36] <elky> who are you referring to, ju2ef?
[22:38] <elky> ju2ef, are you there?
[22:38] <ju2ef> Yes
[22:39] <ju2ef> It was Anonymous-hacker
[22:39] <elky> that was the only one? they are not there now
[22:39] <ju2ef> And a guy with lots of |||||||||||
[22:39] <ju2ef> In nickname
[22:40] <elky> looks like flannel fixed them like 10 minutes before you came here :)
[22:41] <ju2ef> Oh
[22:41] <ju2ef> Sorry for trolling lol
[22:41] <elky> Nah, it's a busy channel, you can miss stuff easy
[22:41] <elky> thanks for reporting it anyway :)
[22:42] <ju2ef> :)
[22:43] <elky> was there anything else you needed from us? we prefer users don't idle here so we know who needs our attention. you can always rejoin if you come across another issue though
[22:46] <ju2ef> No no need anything, how do I quit this channel?
[22:46] <knome> ju2ef, /part
[22:53] <topyli> for the record, this "anonymous" guy was also in -ot and i banned them
[23:30] <Pici> topyli: was it really that bad? I'm really tired and although the mouse is only on the coffee table, it seems like ts really far away.
[23:32] <pangolin> Pici: the strip implies that Apple uses Chinese sweat shops to produce products and Jobs reincarnates into an Asian.
[23:32] <topyli> Pici: mongy has been a problem for a long time in -ot, it's not just now. i have warned them many times because of racist, sexist, and political rubbish
[23:32] <Pici> ah
[23:33] <pangolin> I blocked someone on G+ because of that exact comic