| philipballew | has anyone here used team viewer? | 02:49 |
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| locodir-user | hi | 03:24 |
| philipballew | locodir-user, hi | 03:25 |
| locodir-user | hi, a have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 | 03:31 |
| locodir-user | after the update, i did the reboot, and when everything supposly start to load , just stop in a black screen, saying that apache2 is looking for a network | 03:32 |
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| philipballew | locodir-user, your running apache? is this a server? | 03:33 |
| akk | I hate boot scripts that assume a network is there. | 03:33 |
| locodir-user | no, that's the point, is not a server | 03:33 |
| akk | Usually they'll time out after a while, but sometimes it's a LONG while. Does control-C help at all? | 03:34 |
| locodir-user | i did not try that | 03:34 |
| locodir-user | i'been looking for the way to fix my pc, since eysterday in the morning | 03:35 |
| philipballew | well irc is a pretty good place for that | 03:35 |
| akk | Some versions pay attention to control-c at boot time, some don't, and I don't know if oneiric does. | 03:35 |
| akk | It's always worth trying. Otherwise, you could try ctl-alt-F2 to see if you can get a login prompt | 03:36 |
| akk | or else boot in single-user mode and remove or disable apache, then reboot | 03:36 |
| locodir-user | how i can do that? | 03:36 |
| philipballew | I wonder if you can just drop to a root shell | 03:36 |
| locodir-user | boot in single user | 03:36 |
| locodir-user | i can do that | 03:37 |
| locodir-user | get a shell | 03:37 |
| locodir-user | and i can acces my HD | 03:37 |
| locodir-user | i tried modifing a file in the etc folder | 03:37 |
| locodir-user | but nothing | 03:37 |
| crashsystems | Does anyone have any ideas for getting Ubuntu to ether install install security updates upon shutdown, or prevent users from shutting down while updates are running? I've got a bunch of end-user laptop workstations I need to have automatic security updates for without worrying about users breaking things by shutting down at the wrong moment. | 03:39 |
| akk | you could do something like chmod 000 /etc/init.d/apache2 (or /etc/init/apache2, I don't have an oneiric install here yet) to disable apache. | 03:39 |
| akk | Assuming you want to keep it installed -- if you don't, then just apt-get remove apache2 | 03:39 |
| akk | maybe make that apt-get purge apache2 | 03:39 |
| locodir-user | what could be better, purge or remove apache2? | 03:41 |
| akk | crashsystems: You can make upstart run something on shutdown, I'm pretty sure ... or else poke around in /etc/init.d, there's probably some shutdown stuff there. | 03:42 |
| crashsystems | hmm, I'll look into that | 03:42 |
| akk | crashsystems: /etc/init.d/killprocs is run on shutdown, I think (upon going to runlevel 1, looks like) | 03:42 |
| crashsystems | I'd like to think that the unattended-upgrade package would handle it, but I've not found anything that says how that package handles unexpected shutdowns. | 03:43 |
| akk | though going to runlevel 1 probably happens at startup too, and maybe booting to single-user mode | 03:43 |
| akk | I don't know either (about unattended-upgrade and shutdowns) -- would be useful to know. | 03:44 |
| akk | Maybe you should test it. :) | 03:44 |
| crashsystems | yeah, I'll likely throw an ubuntu instance on my virtualization server to test that out | 03:44 |
| akk | But apt-get is pretty well behaved about being interrupted -- worst that happens is it doesn't finish downloading, and continues next time. | 03:44 |
| akk | It still has everything it downloaded so far, and can continue where it left off. | 03:45 |
| crashsystems | yeah, apt-get handles it pretty nice, but once packages are downloaded if dpkg is running while the shutdown happens, crazy stuff happens. | 03:45 |
| akk | ah, true, that might not be so good | 03:45 |
| crashsystems | I'm looking to make a very light weight ubuntu image that just boots to a fullscreen chrome browser. I'd not worry about updates at all except I want to make sure the browser and flash are up to date. | 03:46 |
| philipballew | pleia2, you have a quick second for a ssh question? | 03:46 |
| crashsystems | I'm considering writing a little python script to just issue a shutdown cancel command whenever shutdown is started while the dpkg lock file is present, then use the ubuntu notification system to tell users that updates are currently running. | 03:53 |
| jtatum | Greetings folks in the south bay! Mountain View Ubuntu hour this Thursday | 16:44 |
| jtatum | pleia2: when you have a free moment (you must be busy with returning from travel), could you please ping twitter? | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | jtatum: we do the twitter announcements on the day of the events | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | mailing list and web forums for actual announcements | 16:46 |
| jtatum | okie dokie | 16:47 |
| jtatum | thanks :) | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | dinda will be in town this week, I'll fwd this along to her | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | I have an americas board meeting that night, but I can probably arrive to the hour late | 16:49 |
| akk | I'm in town for once, too. | 16:49 |
| jtatum | great! | 16:50 |
| jtatum | i will set aside some decals for you both :) | 16:51 |
| bkerensa | =o | 16:54 |
| akk | yay decals | 16:55 |
| Darkwing | Hey guys | 17:01 |
| MarkDude | hey Darkwing | 17:14 |
| MarkDude | So bkerensa is in the elite now with that tattoo | 17:14 |
| MarkDude | Hardcore | 17:14 |
| jyo | Hooray Mt. View Ubuntu Hour. | 17:20 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Are you about? | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | sorta, working, what's up? | 17:47 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Can I pm my wiki just to run it by you before I put myself on Agenda? | 17:48 |
| * bkerensa is not sure what the typical application looks like | 17:48 | |
| pleia2 | sure | 17:48 |
| pleia2 | unfortunately the agenda page is broken at the moment | 17:48 |
| bkerensa | =o | 17:48 |
| bkerensa | oh | 17:48 |
| * MarkDude wrote endorsement bkerensa | 18:16 | |
| MarkDude | Nice pangolin pleia2 | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas is editable again :) | 18:31 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: You guys tamed that Python | 18:39 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:39 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Thanks I will do check | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | bkerensa, the wiki is NOT allowing me to login | 19:55 |
| gua | "sorry mark, can't let you do that" | 19:55 |
| MarkDude | lol | 19:57 |
| MarkDude | thx Hal | 19:57 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: What do you mean it wont let you login? | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | Standard LP stuff | 20:26 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: You can e-mail it to me and Ill add it in? | 20:26 |
| * MarkDude did it tho | 20:26 | |
| bkerensa | ? | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bkerensa/Plugs | 20:26 |
| bkerensa | oh | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | took a minute | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | waited | 20:26 |
| MarkDude | THEN it let me | 20:26 |
| * MarkDude has NEVER like LP | 20:26 | |
| MarkDude | always buggy as all get out | 20:27 |
| MarkDude | IMHO | 20:27 |
| MarkDude | done tho :D | 20:27 |
| * MarkDude even included a {*} | 20:27 | |
| MarkDude | renders like your new tattoo ;) | 20:27 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Jono's Blog - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/17/ubuntu-tat/ (Badass has a new name) | 20:29 |
| zoclo | hi guys | 22:41 |
| zoclo | i have a problem | 22:41 |
| zoclo | some one in riverside Ca? | 22:43 |
| MarkDude | What sorta problem zoclo ? | 22:43 |
| zoclo | after update to ubuntu 11.10 in can not start ubuntu | 22:44 |
| zoclo | a program called "nanny" is stoping the process | 22:48 |
| nhaines | zoclo: can you share the exact error message that demonstrates this? | 22:48 |
| zoclo | yes | 22:49 |
| zoclo | is: nanny Stopping Sistem V runlevel compativility | 22:49 |
| zoclo | that's the error | 22:49 |
| * MarkDude was hoping it was simpler, thats not really a question I can help with :) | 22:50 | |
| MarkDude | Sry | 22:50 |
| zoclo | i tried with aptitude | 22:51 |
| zoclo | but just instaled and deleted some packages | 22:53 |
| akk | Maybe delete nanny? (whatever it is) | 22:53 |
| zoclo | but how? | 22:54 |
| zoclo | i can not go to shell to tri it | 22:54 |
| akk | I was about to ask how you were running aptitude to install and delete things. | 22:54 |
| zoclo | when you go to shell, with control D | 22:55 |
| zoclo | you type aptitude | 22:55 |
| zoclo | and it opens a new window | 22:55 |
| zoclo | and you have different options | 22:55 |
| zoclo | the last one is upgrade,install,delete | 22:56 |
| pleia2 | zoclo: is this on a desktop? | 22:56 |
| zoclo | no | 22:56 |
| pleia2 | a VPS? | 22:56 |
| zoclo | in user@user:# | 22:56 |
| pleia2 | I don't understand, is this a server you run, or something that's hosted somewhere, or..? | 22:57 |
| zoclo | no | 22:58 |
| zoclo | is a regular pc | 22:58 |
| zoclo | that's the point, | 22:58 |
| zoclo | after the update from 11.04 to 11.10, this apear in my screen | 22:58 |
| zoclo | and don't let me start ubuntu | 23:00 |
| bkerensa | brb rebooting Ubuntu Cloud | 23:01 |
| nhaines | I always know what the answer is going to be, even before I ask it, but I'll do it anyway. | 23:02 |
| nhaines | zoclo: did you back up all of your files and data before you upgraded to oneiric? | 23:02 |
| zoclo | no | 23:02 |
| nhaines | Okay, so the fun thing about Linux is that almost every problem has an answer and can be fixed. That's the good news. | 23:03 |
| zoclo | but if i have to save at leastmy pics inDVDs i doit | 23:03 |
| nhaines | The better news is that you can also use a Desktop CD to boot your machine, copy all of your data to DVD or to an external hard drive, and then reinstall Ubuntu. | 23:04 |
| zoclo | im using a ubuntu 9something to have acces to the internet | 23:04 |
| nhaines | zoclo: are you using an older computer with Ubuntu 9.x installed or are you using an old Ubuntu 9.x CD on the same computer to access the Internet? | 23:05 |
| zoclo | using an old ubuntu, in the same computer | 23:06 |
| zoclo | and i don't have problems at all,to see my files | 23:07 |
| nhaines | No, of course. That's the nice thing--everything will still be there. :) | 23:07 |
| zoclo | yes | 23:07 |
| nhaines | Okay, if I were sitting in front of the computer I'd take a look at it but since I'm not, I think I'll recommend backing up your home directory and reinstalling. | 23:08 |
| zoclo | im lucky, if not, i could be dead already | 23:08 |
| nhaines | If you've been upgrading Ubuntu since 9.x, then you'll probably have a smoother experience installing 11.10 fresh, too. | 23:08 |
| zoclo | back up home? | 23:08 |
| zoclo | in the same HD? | 23:08 |
| nhaines | Different hard drive. | 23:08 |
| zoclo | i only have one | 23:09 |
| nhaines | Do you have a USB drive or a second drive that is a CD/DVD burner? | 23:11 |
| zoclo | no | 23:12 |
| zoclo | the only one is the one im using to run the live cd | 23:12 |
| nhaines | That makes it very difficult to back up your computer. | 23:13 |
| zoclo | i know | 23:13 |
| zoclo | but if i can acces the shell | 23:13 |
| zoclo | i think i can delete nanny | 23:13 |
| nhaines | Do you know how big your home directory is? | 23:13 |
| zoclo | what if i delete the folder from the HD? | 23:14 |
| zoclo | the nanny folder? | 23:14 |
| zoclo | could work? | 23:14 |
| nhaines | That won't work. | 23:14 |
| nhaines | What happens if you boot from the hard drive, hold down Shift so you get a GRUB menu, and try the (recovery) option? | 23:15 |
| zoclo | that easy? | 23:15 |
| zoclo | let me try | 23:15 |
| zoclo | if don | 23:15 |
| zoclo | work i'll be back in a moment | 23:15 |
| zoclo | jiji | 23:16 |
| zoclo | over and out | 23:16 |
| nhaines | Anyone else feel free to take over (or keep an eye on this) because I unfortunately have to leave work pretty much at 5 and get some errands done. It's a very busy week. | 23:18 |
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