[02:49] has anyone here used team viewer? [03:24] hi [03:25] locodir-user, hi [03:31] hi, a have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 [03:32] after the update, i did the reboot, and when everything supposly start to load , just stop in a black screen, saying that apache2 is looking for a network === ryaxnb__ is now known as ryaxnb15 [03:33] locodir-user, your running apache? is this a server? [03:33] I hate boot scripts that assume a network is there. [03:33] no, that's the point, is not a server [03:34] Usually they'll time out after a while, but sometimes it's a LONG while. Does control-C help at all? [03:34] i did not try that [03:35] i'been looking for the way to fix my pc, since eysterday in the morning [03:35] well irc is a pretty good place for that [03:35] Some versions pay attention to control-c at boot time, some don't, and I don't know if oneiric does. [03:36] It's always worth trying. Otherwise, you could try ctl-alt-F2 to see if you can get a login prompt [03:36] or else boot in single-user mode and remove or disable apache, then reboot [03:36] how i can do that? [03:36] I wonder if you can just drop to a root shell [03:36] boot in single user [03:37] i can do that [03:37] get a shell [03:37] and i can acces my HD [03:37] i tried modifing a file in the etc folder [03:37] but nothing [03:39] Does anyone have any ideas for getting Ubuntu to ether install install security updates upon shutdown, or prevent users from shutting down while updates are running? I've got a bunch of end-user laptop workstations I need to have automatic security updates for without worrying about users breaking things by shutting down at the wrong moment. [03:39] you could do something like chmod 000 /etc/init.d/apache2 (or /etc/init/apache2, I don't have an oneiric install here yet) to disable apache. [03:39] Assuming you want to keep it installed -- if you don't, then just apt-get remove apache2 [03:39] maybe make that apt-get purge apache2 [03:41] what could be better, purge or remove apache2? [03:42] crashsystems: You can make upstart run something on shutdown, I'm pretty sure ... or else poke around in /etc/init.d, there's probably some shutdown stuff there. [03:42] hmm, I'll look into that [03:42] crashsystems: /etc/init.d/killprocs is run on shutdown, I think (upon going to runlevel 1, looks like) [03:43] I'd like to think that the unattended-upgrade package would handle it, but I've not found anything that says how that package handles unexpected shutdowns. [03:43] though going to runlevel 1 probably happens at startup too, and maybe booting to single-user mode [03:44] I don't know either (about unattended-upgrade and shutdowns) -- would be useful to know. [03:44] Maybe you should test it. :) [03:44] yeah, I'll likely throw an ubuntu instance on my virtualization server to test that out [03:44] But apt-get is pretty well behaved about being interrupted -- worst that happens is it doesn't finish downloading, and continues next time. [03:45] It still has everything it downloaded so far, and can continue where it left off. [03:45] yeah, apt-get handles it pretty nice, but once packages are downloaded if dpkg is running while the shutdown happens, crazy stuff happens. [03:45] ah, true, that might not be so good [03:46] I'm looking to make a very light weight ubuntu image that just boots to a fullscreen chrome browser. I'd not worry about updates at all except I want to make sure the browser and flash are up to date. [03:46] pleia2, you have a quick second for a ssh question? [03:53] I'm considering writing a little python script to just issue a shutdown cancel command whenever shutdown is started while the dpkg lock file is present, then use the ubuntu notification system to tell users that updates are currently running. [16:44] Greetings folks in the south bay! Mountain View Ubuntu hour this Thursday [16:45] pleia2: when you have a free moment (you must be busy with returning from travel), could you please ping twitter? [16:46] jtatum: we do the twitter announcements on the day of the events [16:46] mailing list and web forums for actual announcements [16:47] okie dokie [16:47] thanks :) [16:48] dinda will be in town this week, I'll fwd this along to her [16:49] I have an americas board meeting that night, but I can probably arrive to the hour late [16:49] I'm in town for once, too. [16:50] great! [16:51] i will set aside some decals for you both :) [16:54] =o [16:55] yay decals [17:01] Hey guys [17:14] hey Darkwing [17:14] So bkerensa is in the elite now with that tattoo [17:14] Hardcore [17:20] Hooray Mt. View Ubuntu Hour. [17:45] pleia2: Are you about? [17:47] sorta, working, what's up? [17:48] pleia2: Can I pm my wiki just to run it by you before I put myself on Agenda? [17:48] * bkerensa is not sure what the typical application looks like [17:48] sure [17:48] unfortunately the agenda page is broken at the moment [17:48] =o [17:48] oh [18:16] * MarkDude wrote endorsement bkerensa [18:30] Nice pangolin pleia2 [18:31] bkerensa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas is editable again :) [18:39] pleia2: You guys tamed that Python [18:39] :D [18:39] MarkDude: Thanks I will do check [19:55] bkerensa, the wiki is NOT allowing me to login [19:55] "sorry mark, can't let you do that" [19:57] lol [19:57] thx Hal [20:26] MarkDude: What do you mean it wont let you login? [20:26] Standard LP stuff [20:26] MarkDude: You can e-mail it to me and Ill add it in? [20:26] * MarkDude did it tho [20:26] ? [20:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bkerensa/Plugs [20:26] oh [20:26] took a minute [20:26] waited [20:26] THEN it let me [20:26] * MarkDude has NEVER like LP [20:27] always buggy as all get out [20:27] IMHO [20:27] done tho :D [20:27] * MarkDude even included a {*} [20:27] renders like your new tattoo ;) [20:29] MarkDude: Jono's Blog - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/17/ubuntu-tat/ (Badass has a new name) [22:41] hi guys [22:41] i have a problem [22:43] some one in riverside Ca? [22:43] What sorta problem zoclo ? [22:44] after update to ubuntu 11.10 in can not start ubuntu [22:48] a program called "nanny" is stoping the process [22:48] zoclo: can you share the exact error message that demonstrates this? [22:49] yes [22:49] is: nanny Stopping Sistem V runlevel compativility [22:49] that's the error [22:50] * MarkDude was hoping it was simpler, thats not really a question I can help with :) [22:50] Sry [22:51] i tried with aptitude [22:53] but just instaled and deleted some packages [22:53] Maybe delete nanny? (whatever it is) [22:54] but how? [22:54] i can not go to shell to tri it [22:54] I was about to ask how you were running aptitude to install and delete things. [22:55] when you go to shell, with control D [22:55] you type aptitude [22:55] and it opens a new window [22:55] and you have different options [22:56] the last one is upgrade,install,delete [22:56] zoclo: is this on a desktop? [22:56] no [22:56] a VPS? [22:56] in user@user:# [22:57] I don't understand, is this a server you run, or something that's hosted somewhere, or..? [22:58] no [22:58] is a regular pc [22:58] that's the point, [22:58] after the update from 11.04 to 11.10, this apear in my screen [23:00] and don't let me start ubuntu [23:01] brb rebooting Ubuntu Cloud [23:02] I always know what the answer is going to be, even before I ask it, but I'll do it anyway. [23:02] zoclo: did you back up all of your files and data before you upgraded to oneiric? [23:02] no [23:03] Okay, so the fun thing about Linux is that almost every problem has an answer and can be fixed. That's the good news. [23:03] but if i have to save at leastmy pics inDVDs i doit [23:04] The better news is that you can also use a Desktop CD to boot your machine, copy all of your data to DVD or to an external hard drive, and then reinstall Ubuntu. [23:04] im using a ubuntu 9something to have acces to the internet [23:05] zoclo: are you using an older computer with Ubuntu 9.x installed or are you using an old Ubuntu 9.x CD on the same computer to access the Internet? [23:06] using an old ubuntu, in the same computer [23:07] and i don't have problems at all,to see my files [23:07] No, of course. That's the nice thing--everything will still be there. :) [23:07] yes [23:08] Okay, if I were sitting in front of the computer I'd take a look at it but since I'm not, I think I'll recommend backing up your home directory and reinstalling. [23:08] im lucky, if not, i could be dead already [23:08] If you've been upgrading Ubuntu since 9.x, then you'll probably have a smoother experience installing 11.10 fresh, too. [23:08] back up home? [23:08] in the same HD? [23:08] Different hard drive. [23:09] i only have one [23:11] Do you have a USB drive or a second drive that is a CD/DVD burner? [23:12] no [23:12] the only one is the one im using to run the live cd [23:13] That makes it very difficult to back up your computer. [23:13] i know [23:13] but if i can acces the shell [23:13] i think i can delete nanny [23:13] Do you know how big your home directory is? [23:14] what if i delete the folder from the HD? [23:14] the nanny folder? [23:14] could work? [23:14] That won't work. [23:15] What happens if you boot from the hard drive, hold down Shift so you get a GRUB menu, and try the (recovery) option? [23:15] that easy? [23:15] let me try [23:15] if don [23:15] work i'll be back in a moment [23:16] jiji [23:16] over and out [23:18] Anyone else feel free to take over (or keep an eye on this) because I unfortunately have to leave work pretty much at 5 and get some errands done. It's a very busy week.