[00:23] <jthan> Hello everyone
[00:35]  * GeekyAdam waves.
[00:48] <jedijf> _nomad: re: flux ...nike (just do it), then you can report to us
[00:48] <_nomad> it crashed and burned for me...
[00:49] <_nomad> havent dug into it too much yet
[00:49] <jedijf> that answers that :(
[00:49] <_nomad> shame, it's a great app
[00:49] <jedijf> _nomad: you did mean the window manaer right?
[00:49] <_nomad> no...
[00:49] <jedijf> manager too
[00:49] <_nomad> http://stereopsis.com/flux/
[00:50] <_nomad> it's a program that changes the color temperature of your screen based on time of day
[00:50] <_nomad> makes it a little easier on the eyes using the computer at night
[00:51] <GeekyAdam> i thought you were referring to a fluxbox derivitive as well
[00:52] <_nomad> ah...
[00:52] <_nomad> nope
[00:52] <_nomad> should have clarified
[00:52] <_nomad> its a great app - i use it on linux & mac, but I believe they have it for windows and iPhone/iPad as well
[00:53] <GeekyAdam> seems like a good idea. we've all tried going to bed after 6 hours in front of the monitor and your eyes won't close
[00:53] <InHisName> Hello everyone
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> hello
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> what's up?
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> how did the whole thing work out?
[00:56] <InHisName> I finally found out how to turn off 'hover-click' of mouse arrow.
[00:57] <InHisName> f.lux seem interesting, 'cept my computer is in basement and NO sun issues there.
[00:57] <_nomad> hehe
[00:58] <_nomad> its also great if you are prone to waking early and working
[00:58] <_nomad> fixes that "too bright" feelin
[00:58] <_nomad> :)
[01:01] <MutantTurkey> flux?
[01:03] <_nomad> yeah
[01:03] <_nomad> http://stereopsis.com/flux/
[01:03] <jedijf> _nomad: kinda works in 11.04
[01:04] <_nomad> yeah, i was using it in 11.04
[01:04] <jedijf> rmg51: and it has and indicator app up in panel
[01:04] <_nomad> yep
[01:05] <jedijf> i saw on the homepage someone asked about 11.10 repo availability
[01:07] <MutantTurkey> I actualy already wrote this
[01:07] <MutantTurkey> just very primitively
[01:08] <MutantTurkey> it just set my display to different settings at a different time
[01:08] <MutantTurkey> but same concept
[01:08] <MutantTurkey> glad someone has really well done it
[01:13] <_nomad> that's pretty cool
[01:14] <_nomad> i'd like to see software that goes even further in that direction
[01:14] <_nomad> maybe changing window colors throughout the day, etc.
[01:14] <_nomad> based on weather
[01:14] <MutantTurkey> ...
[01:14] <MutantTurkey> you really should just use a light sensor
[01:15] <MutantTurkey> most phones have them, and computers do to
[01:15] <MutantTurkey> in fact you could even use the webcam to do polling ever few minutes to get the light level
[01:15] <MutantTurkey> then adjust to it
[01:15] <MutantTurkey> _nomad: you might inside or something
[01:43] <MutantTurkey> wow, skype for linux is actually nicer than the windows version, which I find unbearable
[01:43] <MutantTurkey> the linux version is very light and simple
[01:47] <JonathanD> For now, MutantTurkey
[01:47] <JonathanD> For now.
[01:47] <MutantTurkey> well now that microsoft owns it...
[01:48] <MutantTurkey> I dount we'll get anything
[01:54] <JonathanD> They said they would keep making it.
[01:55] <MutantTurkey> wow
[01:55] <MutantTurkey> it is eating my cpu
[01:55] <MutantTurkey> the video drawing
[01:55] <MutantTurkey> must be doing crappy api calls
[01:55] <MutantTurkey> no video accell or anything
[01:55] <MutantTurkey> even remotely
[02:04] <MutantTurkey> at lest its multithreaded
[02:06] <mikedep333> _nomad, thank you very much for that link!
[02:25] <_nomad> glad you like it
[06:29] <beta0x64> Skype for Linux will occasionally lock up on me, garble the video, or crash
[06:29] <beta0x64> it's a big bag of fun in ELF form
[06:30] <beta0x64> anyone up?
[06:35] <pavel__> i am
[06:38] <beta0x64> how are you? :P
[07:00] <pavel__> im pretty good how are yo
[07:01] <beta0x64> great I guess
[07:01] <beta0x64> watching I Survived on hulu
[07:01] <pavel__> guess?
[07:01] <beta0x64> yea, I guess
[07:01] <beta0x64> finished my homework for tuesday and worked a little on an android app
[07:01] <beta0x64> so I feel good
[07:01] <pavel__> ah productivity
[07:02] <pavel__> accomplishment is always a great feeling
[07:02] <beta0x64> yea it is
[07:02] <beta0x64> I need to shave :|
[07:02] <beta0x64> that will be my next feeling of accomplishment lol
[07:02] <JonathanD> Morning!
[07:03] <beta0x64> morning
[07:06] <pavel__> i worked 4 hours today
[07:06] <pavel__> thats my accomplishment
[07:06] <beta0x64> lucky dog
[07:06] <beta0x64> I have 8 hour shifts : :P
[07:06] <pavel__> i have em pretty often
[07:07] <JonathanD> I work 30 hour shifts in the mines with 2 hours of sleep in between :(
[07:07] <beta0x64> oh dear
[07:12] <beta0x64> JonathanD, you realize there's 48 hours every two days. that leaves 16 hours (48 - 32) unaccounted for.
[07:14] <JonathanD> beta0x64: We don't operate on this silly day/night cycle, beta0x64
[07:24] <pavel__>  i gave up on that a while ago
[07:24] <pavel__> napping is the way to go
[07:24] <pavel__> time is time
[07:24] <beta0x64> now that I flip between midnight shift friday and saturday and working evening tuesday and going to class monday through friday
[07:24] <beta0x64> I feel you pavel__
[07:25] <pavel__> yeah it catches up with u. it was more difficult in highschool tho
[07:25] <pavel__> and middle school
[07:25] <pavel__> thats when i got into computers
[07:25] <pavel__> and would stay up late
[07:27] <pavel__> beta whats ur major
[07:27] <beta0x64> computer science
[07:33] <pavel__> where at again?
[07:34] <beta0x64> a small crap university south of pittsburgh
[07:34] <beta0x64> I shouldn't be so harsh
[07:34] <beta0x64> california university of pennsylvania. it's a cheap state school.
[07:34] <beta0x64> http://calu.edu
[07:35] <beta0x64> I'm just bitter because I had to transfer from the university of pittsburgh for $ reasons, pavel__
[07:38] <pavel__> aw i understand
[07:38] <pavel__> im sorr to hear that
[07:38] <beta0x64> its okay. I'll be in less debt upon graduation.
[07:38] <pavel__> but i actually have heard of cal  uni in pa
[07:38] <beta0x64> I just hope I can find work as easily.
[07:39] <pavel__> yes, and you can always tr to get into upit to get a different degree
[07:39] <beta0x64> well the cost would be the same
[07:39] <beta0x64> that's the issue. tuition went from like $20,000 a year to $6,000 at calu
[07:39] <beta0x64> lol
[07:46] <pavel__> phew
[07:46] <pavel__> good deal tho
[07:47] <pavel__> its a decent school
[07:47] <pavel__> its a decent school?
[07:47] <pavel__> oops
[07:47] <pavel__> i was making a statement not a q
[07:47] <pavel__> but what do u plan on doing?
[07:47] <beta0x64> it is a decent school, but you know
[07:47] <beta0x64> you get what you put in
[07:48] <beta0x64> I plan on being a java developer.
[07:48] <beta0x64> Where do I want to go? Great question
[07:48] <pavel__> i dont like java but im good at it... i think
[07:48] <beta0x64> it's an academic language
[07:48] <beta0x64> it's well taught at many schools
[07:49] <beta0x64> I personally don't like Java either but I don't have much choice
[07:49]  * pavel__ is selftaught
[07:49] <beta0x64> if I want to be a PHP/web-backend dev., I would be taken less seriously I think
[07:49] <beta0x64> the pay-grade is much better for a Java developer. I don't want to go to C or C++ because ... well blah
[07:50] <beta0x64> at least I know I can code for Java on virtually everything
[07:50] <beta0x64> and I am starting to explore android devel, which is fun
[07:51] <beta0x64> essentially I have the most experience in PHP and Java
[07:51] <beta0x64> I can still code C better than anyone else in Computer Programming I haha
[07:52] <beta0x64> pavel__, what do you do?
[07:58] <pavel__> thats because c is better
[07:58] <pavel__> c++, linux, android/java
[07:59] <pavel__> i like to fix shit, and always learn new shit
[07:59] <pavel__> is cursing aloowde here
[07:59] <pavel__> *allowed
[07:59] <beta0x64> I dont think so
[07:59] <beta0x64> but I dont give a shit :)
[07:59] <beta0x64> I think this channel uses Ubuntu CoC
[08:01] <pavel__> but either way, im currently enrolled at bucks counnty community college
[08:01] <pavel__> gen engineering
[08:01] <pavel__> and i gave up pretty early. think ima just go to trade school for now
[08:01] <beta0x64> what do you want to do?
[08:02] <pavel__> i want to work with linux servers
[08:02] <pavel__> or C++ programming
[08:02] <pavel__> ideally game programming
[08:03] <beta0x64> what have you made?
[08:03] <pavel__> not much
[08:03] <pavel__> ive played with opengl
[08:03] <pavel__> realized i need an engine
[08:03] <pavel__> and have been stuck since
[08:03] <pavel__> im not a graphic artist so i cant model fast
[08:04] <beta0x64> can I give you a tip man? I wish I did this earlier while I had that type of specific ambition
[08:07] <pavel__> yeah, but like
[08:08] <pavel__> i need a better job to be able to invest money into programming supplies
[08:08] <pavel__> like beer
[08:09] <pavel__> and food
[08:09] <beta0x64> dude I know what you mean. I'm selling gas and cigarettes :P
[10:01] <rmg51>  morning
[10:13] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:03] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:29] <InHisName> morning
[12:30] <InHisName> Oh, for you early birds, my unity panel came back on with the upgrade.
[12:31] <InHisName> Have you played with the Metro menu at all yet ?    I prefer Unity way over that other OS major change.
[12:31] <InHisName> There I said something nice about unity.
[13:05] <rmg51> Unity, what's that?
[13:06] <rmg51> I'll stay with xfce
[13:12] <jedijf> rmg51: do you really like it?
[13:15] <rmg51> xfce? yep
[13:16] <rmg51> close enough to the old gnome for me
[13:16] <rmg51> my email notification app works
[13:17] <rmg51> and I can add stuff to the panel
[13:29] <jedijf> looks like you're doing the beginner part next month :)
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> cant eve nstay away
[13:30] <MutantTurkey> sta awake
[13:45] <rmg51> you can't even spell :P
[13:48] <MutantTurkey> i am trying
[13:49] <MutantTurkey> honestly I don't get C++ at all. I'll just stay with C
[14:10] <ssweeny> c++ is da debbul
[14:26] <InHisName> maybe MutantTurkey should go to the dark side and just go for C# ?
[14:26] <InHisName> only one char different.
[17:55] <JonathanD> I hereby announce we are to hold a geeknic at the Philadelphia zoo.
[17:57] <jedijf> animals in captivity violate CoC
[17:59] <JonathanD> is that a no then, jedijf
[18:00] <jedijf> jk
[18:01] <JonathanD> I actually just opened the CoC page to search for that :p
[18:01] <JonathanD> you are evil :p
[18:01] <JonathanD> Anyway, early december
[19:30] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: avoiding returning my laptop still
[20:02] <JonathanD> jedijf: december 3rd.
[20:14] <jedijf> JonathanD: if we're not doing koziar's xmas village that weekend
[20:15] <jedijf> JonathanD: 1st weekend of the month is grand daughter weekend