[05:36] morning [05:53] morning all [05:53] Maaz, coffee on [05:53] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [05:57] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:57] Maaz, ty [05:57] Enjoy Kilos [06:25] Maaz: tell Kilos Good morning! [06:26] superfly: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [09:56] eish, it's really quiet in here today... [11:52] where's the proper place to add routes to an interface after it's been brought up? still /etc/network/interfaces? [11:55] Owkkuri: just add them with route / ip route [11:56] tumbleweed: I've got a whole bunch of "post-up sudo route add ..." in interfaces [11:56] seems they're not always getting applied [11:56] for a start, remove the sudo [11:57] do the commands actually work? [11:57] aye [11:57] and you are using ifupdown to manage the interface? not network-manager? [11:57] I think my issue may be related to ip addr add vs eth0:0 [11:58] you shouldn't need to use alias interfaces these days, with ip, you can add multiple IPs to an interface [11:58] aye, i think that's what's going on [11:58] this file's quite old [11:59] maybe it's time to rewrite it [12:13] hello [12:13] anybody knows where I can get a usb type framegrabber for my notebook, obviously it must wek with ubuntu not loosedoze [12:20] howdy all [12:23] bmg505: nope, sorry [12:23] magespawn: yo [12:24] bmg505: easy answer to that is to buy a bunch of cheap ones. Most of them will probably work, and you can find the one that works best [12:25] superfly my upgrade did not work. [12:26] magespawn: what happened? [12:27] not sure there was a powersupply cut-off [12:28] magespawn: pop in a live cd, mount hard drive, mount -o bind /dev and /proc, chroot hard drive, continue upgrade [12:30] looks like it was interupted [12:34] thats sorted it ty. [12:44] how is the new version? [12:49] okay i am not such a big fan of unity though [13:03] actually liking 11.10's version of unity over 11.04 [13:07] I've grown far too attached to KDE to ever contemplate leaving :-P [13:08] KDE just uses too much memory for my liking [13:08] hi zeref-c [13:08] although i do like it [13:09] Hi superfly [13:09] Owkkuri: heavier than unity? [13:09] mmhm [13:09] sitting on 1.9Gb used where as with KDE it floats are 2.1Gb [13:10] not much, but yeah [13:10] Owkkuri: tried Gnome Shell? [13:10] I haven't superfly, I should [13:15] how do i get it back to gnome. have googled but no luck with the directions. [13:16] magespawn: what do you mean, "get back to Gnome" [13:17] yup [13:18] Superfly, how r u likin 11.10 so far, i'm bout to install it, to get used to unity [13:19] magespawn: I don't understand what you mean, please explain what you mean. [13:19] i want switch back to gnome [13:19] zeref-c: I'm a KDE person, so I haven't experienced any radical changes [13:19] magespawn: from where? [13:20] from unity [13:20] magespawn: I don't know. Try logging out and setting your X session? [13:20] I can do that with KDM [13:20] I presume LightDM can do the same thing [13:21] Maaz: google for ubuntu gnome classic [13:21] superfly: "Ubuntu 11.04 Change From Unity To Classic Gnome « scottlinux.com" http://scottlinux.com/2011/03/05/ubuntu-11-04-change-from-unity-to-classic-gnome/ :: "Ubuntu 11.04 Natty login to Classic Gnome 2 Desktop" http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop :: "Installing / Using Classic GNOME Desktop In Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric ..." http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html :: [13:22] Hmmm [13:23] superfly: install gnome-panel [13:23] that's it [13:23] tumbleweed: thanks, now I know :-) [13:23] I tried to install it in vm, but got stuck at the retrievin files section. [13:23] blame your mirror [13:24] (or ISP) [13:39] Pew pew [13:41] Superfly, how come when i try to install 11.10 in vm, it stalls at the retrievin files section? [13:41] zeref-c: networking issues. [13:42] meh, i told it not to install any updates or connect to internet [13:44] does the vm have internet access? [13:47] Yep [13:48] But durin the installation process, i unchecked the option to get updates [14:00] ty tumbleweed [14:06] did you win the great trek superfly [14:06] Kilos: something like that [14:06] yay [16:35] howdy all [16:42] howdy Kilos [16:42] hi magespawn you well? [16:42] see wesley weenie gonna miss the meeting the swine [16:43] gonna have to take him short [16:43] evening everyone else [16:43] yes and you Kilos? [16:43] good ty [16:51] back again [16:53] pew pew [16:54] hi zeref [16:54] ji Kilos :) [16:54] *hi [16:55] lol slow down [16:55] o0o0 [16:55] wb [16:55] wtf [16:55] oh, GF [16:55] hi conradvo [16:55] hi [16:56] Kilos: whats wb? [16:56] welcome back [16:56] zeref-c is gf [16:56] zeref is me [16:56] zeref, whats gf [16:56] she seems to be using my phone [16:57] girlfriend [16:57] oh ok [16:57] :) [16:58] hi zeref-c welcome to ubuntu-za [17:00] Hi kilos, i've been converted to ubuntu. Lovin it [17:00] good girl [17:00] some peeps are too brainwashed to even try [17:01] she was mac [17:01] i was like BLEH [17:01] thats better than windows at least [17:03] nuvolari, ping [17:04] hhhmmm [17:05] oh my [17:05] ha thats a good one if she is still on windows [17:05] today i was n00b, i tried to burn 11.10 on cd, burnt it as image [17:05] is jmirc same as jedirc [17:05] you mean iso? [17:06] magespawn: yeah [17:06] should have burnt as data [17:06] Kilos: i dont know [17:06] did you download an iso? [17:07] yeah [17:07] no never , got 2m data a day [17:08] zeref, if you have the iso there is a way to burn it to cd [17:08] i will have to look in notes but magespawn will know [17:09] the burning program with ubuntu will recognize the iso file and make a bootable cd [17:09] methinks right click on it and use brasero [17:10] i usuallu use brasero [17:10] but there is an option to burn as image or data, i always choose data, but today...... [17:10] thats supposed to work [17:11] i insert the blank disc drag the iso to the drive and burn it [17:11] arent bootable cds all images [17:11] yeah, all my other ubuntu cd's are done, just today i failed [17:11] usually asks if i want it as an iso or as files in a folder [17:12] yes, i clicked the wrong option by mistake [17:12] ahh right [17:12] picnic [17:13] kilos is the meeting tonight? [17:14] according to the lists yes magespawn but we dont have a chair person [17:15] with maaz control [17:15] o0o0 [17:15] meeting? [17:15] our monthly meeting here [17:15] ahh yes i remember that conversation. [17:17] we will see if anyone pitches by half past or a bit later [17:17] i only see drubin thats got the expertise [17:18] what are the meeting usually about? [17:18] everything thats happening with releases and normal daily stuff [17:19] Maaz, meeting logs [17:19] Kilos: What? [17:19] eish [17:19] i dunno how to ask the bot for the last logs [17:20] i think they should also be on the website [17:21] Maaz meeting logs [17:21] magespawn: Excuse me? [17:21] not that either [17:21] lol [17:22] inetpro, ping [17:22] zeref are you on the mailing list? there is also a google calender. [17:23] maia is studying so she cant help [17:23] and kbmonkey says he has no connection tonight [17:23] grrr [17:24] what is maia studying? [17:24] something heavy [17:24] lol [17:24] for me anyway [17:27] they should give you control [17:28] no man i cant remember all the commands for the bot and qwhere to save everything [17:28] inetpro, tried last month [17:29] tried to make me do it that is [17:29] maybe we can a pdf howto. i would also like to learn how. [17:30] make [17:30] this is the first time we stuck like this [17:31] cocooncrash, you wanna chair tonights meeting? [17:33] maybe we can postpone? [17:33] looks like it. [17:35] i gotta go eat.. bb asap [17:40] loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/140/detail/ [17:41] zeref ^^^ === Banlam\ is now known as Banlam [17:49] hi Banlam [17:49] gday [17:49] tumbleweed, can we postpone tonights meeting? [17:50] howdy [17:50] Kilos: I wasn't even aware of it [17:50] the tpic still talks about a meeting on 15 august [17:50] maybe thats better then [17:50] yeah, go ahead [17:50] oh not third friday of each month [17:51] lets see if the bot listens [17:51] no I mean go ahead and postpone if you want to [17:51] Maaz, announce tonights irc meeting postponed till next monday evening [17:51] Announcement from Kilos! tonights irc meeting postponed till next monday evening [17:51] he dont listen [17:52] yay [17:52] ty tumbleweed [17:54] zeref, what happened the -c [17:54] fone crashed [17:55] good evening [17:55] Kilos: I'm alive and kicking [17:55] wow thats good to hear [17:56] you lurked till meeting was cancelled [17:56] skelm [17:56] Kilos: nope, just logged in now [17:56] * inetpro noticed all the pings from kils [17:56] ok you forgiven inetpro [17:56] hehe [17:56] only one [17:56] from kilos* [17:57] hurrrr [17:57] we needed a chair [17:57] Kilos: she is here now [17:57] Kilos: I don't have the rights either [17:57] eish [17:57] but I still think you should have them Kilos [17:58] anyway meeting postponed till next monday evening so long [17:59] Kilos: I'd say you're one of the most consistent and outspoken members around here at this stage [17:59] i will need to remember too much inetpro [17:59] all the links maaz needs and commands [18:00] Kilos: the first time might be tough but I'm sure you'll get your notes in order quite quickly [18:00] lol [18:00] nee man [18:00] still jy [18:00] tumbleweed: what do you think about the idea? [18:01] Kilos: ultimately it is your choice [18:03] i would like to help when we have probs with the chair but will need to actually see an old log and get all the relevant info [18:03] but then i bang i will have to do it everytime [18:04] but you know you want to [18:05] not actually Banlam but dont mind helping out [18:06] sometimes the head doesnt allow for straight thinking [18:06] wb magespawn [18:06] ty [18:06] been up since 04:30 so the reactions are a bit porked [18:07] why so early [18:07] inetpro: what am I commenting on? [18:07] tumbleweed: I vote for Kilos as a chair for meetings [18:07] game drive for 6 hours. [18:08] here we go again. [18:08] tumbleweed: or at least as a backup chair [18:08] who is the current chair? [18:08] doesn't Kilos have to agree? [18:08] kbmonkey [18:09] inetpro: sounds good [18:09] magespawn: he just said that he would like to help [18:10] i second that, as long Kilos is okay with it. [18:10] note backup [18:11] inetpro, can you mail me the logs of the last meeting so i can make notes of what all to tell the bot? [18:11] Kilos: you see you have the necessary support and others will certainly help you [18:11] i am off to bed all good night. [18:12] Kilos: let me find the logs [18:13] ok if someone does the internet stuff then i will give it a go if kb or maia arent here next monday [18:13] but i will mail them and push for one of them to be here [18:14] Kilos: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-07-18-17-35-25.html [18:14] ok i wget that [18:15] ty inetpro i will look at that when i offline [18:16] Kilos: actually that was not the last one [18:16] http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-09-20-17-33-53.txt [18:17] you can see other logs at http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/ [18:17] i cant go look inetpro . browsers too data hungry [18:18] Kilos: use lynx, links or elinks [18:18] wget works for me [18:33] grrrr [18:33] cant copy paste from elinks [18:51] Kilos: pong [18:51] hi naand oom [18:51] naand nuvolari [18:52] jy moes kom stoel wees het vanaand [18:52] engilse stoel [18:52] engelse [18:56] wha :-/ been busy [18:56] and my parent's last night here [18:56] so spent the time with them [18:57] ok you forgiven but next monday evening hey? [18:58] sure! [18:59] I'll know to prepare then :> [18:59] dankie seun [18:59] and monday's are open \o/ [18:59] yay [18:59] * nuvolari sit 'n reminder op [19:02] en ek het die weenie gepos ook maar ek dink hy jol te lekker in die kaap [19:07] hehe [19:08] Kilos: hy het laat weet oom, hy is nie in touch met die net op die stadium nie [19:08] ek't net so flugtig gesien [19:13] hy het n usb modem so hy moet n plan maak [19:14] ek sal hom môre hier van as hy by die kaffee is [19:15] :'( nou sit ek weer hier man alleen in die kzn-ubuntu-land [19:16] *sug* [19:16] Kilos: oom, het Tara weer iets gehoor al? [19:17] sy het n video of lied gemaak vir VOICE aus [19:17] hulle sluit eers sondag ek dink [19:17] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF7PFIAZswQ [19:18] ek dink dis wat sy by die huis opgeneem het vir haar audisie [19:19] xfactor sal sy moet wag tot volgende jaar wanneer sy n visa kan kry [19:19] maar xfactor het gese sy kan inkom as een van die laaste ses vrouens [19:19] ullo! [19:20] * Symmetria grins, you gotta love doctors sometimes [19:20] sonder die eerste drie rondes [19:20] hi Symmetria [19:20] * Symmetria is so high right now from the meds his doc told him to take [19:21] * nuvolari push Symmetria into the pool since he won't notice [19:22] lol [19:23] hahaha [19:23] doctor told me I needed to relax and sleep [19:23] then go sleep, relax in your dreamz :P [19:23] dream 'bout your next beamer [19:24] hahaha dude in about 10 minutes IM gonna pass out and not wake up for a day or 2 :P [19:24] I'm on an insanely high dose of valium :P [19:24] you're welcome [19:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiU8GPlsZqE [19:29] HAHAHAHAHHA [19:29] thats hilarious [19:31] nuvolari, het jy gekyk? [19:31] byt vas oom Kilos, gaan nou [19:34] :O [19:34] oom Kilos, kan ek haar trou? [19:35] was dit goed? [19:36] dont marry anyone :P you will lose half and be consigned to a life of misery with no sex [19:36] Kilos, oom, ek het hulp nodig - wat weet jy van wasmasjiene? [19:36] wat doen dit nie superfly [19:37] Symmetria: and you're an expert on this because you're married, right? [19:37] nothing is better than a happy marriage [19:37] Kilos: die water gaan in die een pyp, en reg uit die ander... [19:37] Kilos: dit was oom! jinne, sonder begeleiding, so 'n mooi stem [19:38] superfly heh, no, I was engaged once, and haha Im not one to talk, since Im probably about to be again :P [19:38] sounds like the pump is not switching off superfly [19:39] Symmetria: well, I'm no expert, since I've only been married for 4 years, but I'll tell you this much, you're dead wrong. [19:40] superfly, open back cover and you will see the pump [19:40] its smallish with 2 pipes into it [19:40] the inlet most likely has something that was left in pockets there and its blocking the pump from switching off [19:42] is dit ook groot data ding nuvolari [19:42] Kilos: dit is nie so groot nie oom Kilos [19:42] minder as 2 minute [19:43] nee wat los maar seun [19:43] Kilos: 7.36Mb oom [19:43] Kilos: could it have been bumped too much in the move? [19:44] dis 3 dae se data [19:44] maybe something that was loose in the pipes has bumped down to the pumps inlet superfly [19:45] Thanks oom, you're a great help. [19:45] have found coins and all kinda funny things in there like pins etc [19:45] hope you find something [19:45] when you find nothing you gotta start worrying [19:51] nuvolari, jy sal moet daar gaan bly [19:52] * inetpro gaan vandag vroeg slaap [19:53] goeie plan inetpro lekker slaap [19:53] hi nlsthzn [19:53] Hi Kilos , all [19:53] Kilos: selle daar, dankie [19:53] gnight everyone [19:54] Hi nlsthzn [19:54] Good night inetpro [19:54] Hello superfly ... night inetpro [19:55] nlsthzn, meeting next monday at 1930 hey [19:55] Kilos, thanks for the update... hopefully I am online closer to the date for another reminder :p [19:55] you 2 hours ahead hey nlsthzn [19:57] Yup [19:57] Kilos: waar bly oom? [19:58] Nag, almal! [19:58] wes van pretria nuvolari [19:58] nag superfly lekker slaap [19:58] superfly, [19:59] wag, ek is lost, hoekom daar bly oom? [19:59] night superfly [19:59] there might be a sensor as well near the pump that tells it when it has enough water in , there could be a pin or something jamminmg that too [19:59] good luck [20:00] o skuus man [20:00] night superfly [20:00] ek antwoord jou vraag om met tara te trou [20:01] but why pretoria oom? [20:01] ek dag sy bly in aussie country [20:02] ja ek het geslaap en gese waar bly ek [20:02] sy is in melbourne victoria [20:03] ek is half aan die slaap ook hier [20:03] night all. sleep tight [20:04] see you all tomorrow again [20:20] Owkkuri: was this what you hit earlier? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/876829 [20:21] tumbleweed: seems like it, just eth0 was on dhcp [20:21] Owkkuri: oneiric? [20:21] got fed up and let NM manage the interface [20:21] aye, oneric [20:21] yup, that's probably it then [20:22] NM works for now [20:22] blame for it is busy being apportioned in #ubuntu-devel [20:23] \o/ [20:25] cheers for the help tumbleweed :) [20:25] Owkkuri: now you just need to wait for stgraber to fix it [20:26] on his own time [20:27] I think it's still work hours in canada (unless he's still in london) [20:28] oh right, said it's his day off. /me stops assuming