[00:00] Hi! I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.10 on my iBook G4 running xcfe. My trackpad no longer works and 'sudo trackpad show' gives me a "no trackpdad !" response. Where can I learn more? [00:00] well_laid_lawn, can xubuntu run compiz? [00:01] w30: sure [00:01] !compiz | w30 [00:01] w30: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [00:01] kensanata: have a look at the X log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:05] well_laid_lawn: Thanks. I see the log ends with lots of entries regarding my external Logitech USB mouse and the ADB mouse. The ADB section ends with "Adding input device ADB mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)..." [00:05] well_laid_lawn, where does the term window decorator fit in? what's xubuntu's window decorator? [00:06] ken are you running ubuntu or xubuntu? I"m upgrading now and curious how its going to go [00:06] w30: xfwm does that [00:07] kensanata: does the log mention the synaptics device at all? [00:07] pinkydw: I installed Ubuntu some time ago and switched to Xubuntu using "tasksel install xubuntu-desktop" last year. [00:08] well_laid_lawn: I don't get any matches for "syna" in the log file. [00:08] k, thanks kensanata [00:09] pinkydw: Also note that I'm talking about an iBook G4, ie. PowerPC architecture and all that entails. [00:09] entrails. [00:09] well_laid_lawn, thanks, for taking the time to help out stupid people [00:09] ... never messed with those to be honest, I'm updating a toshiba [00:09] I thought the G4 was intel... [00:09] !ppc | kensanata [00:09] kensanata: PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [00:10] * ball used to have some PowerPC machines [00:10] Come to think of it, I still have a beige G3 somewhere. [00:11] ...need to recycle that one. [00:11] beige ftw :) [00:11] friend gave me a G3 once, couldn't find a terminal so I passed it on [00:12] tried a live cd that was supposed to be powerpc friendly, wouldn't boot [00:12] well_laid_lawn: Hehe. Sure. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#How_do_I_control_trackpad_behaviour.3F worked for 11.04 -- I had a working trackpad before the upgrade. Installed powerpc-utils, ran trackpad tap and drap from rc files and all that. [00:13] pinkydw: G3 ... wow! :) [00:13] there used to be a #ubuntu-powerpc [00:13] iirc [00:13] !channels [00:13] A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines [00:14] Hehe, channel topic says "Ubuntu 10.10 released!" [00:14] ;) [00:14] I'll ask anyway. Thanks for the pointer. [00:14] cheers [00:15] *sigh* 17 minutes remaining [00:39] hmmm, its asking me for the default display manager, but all it gives me is "gdm" and "lightdm"... thought I wanted xfce or xfwm or somesuch [00:44] eh, screw it I'll try out something new [00:50] the display manager is the login screen [00:50] to keep things simple [00:51] Hi, has anyone else got unity, gnome, gnome classic in their login menu after upgrading/, and if you have how do you get rid of them?, they're dong my head in! [00:51] I thought ubuntu used gnome by default, are you saying I"ll have xfce based once I get logged in? [00:51] ... [00:52] !purexfce [00:52] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [00:52] pasti, ^^^ [00:52] yeah I saw that after I googled, does it work? how safe etc [00:53] dunno never did it i always do clean installs [00:53] oohhh, thanks GridCube [00:53] pinkydw, xubuntu is x(fce)ubuntu [00:54] I think I should have done a clean install as well, this is the first time after an upgrade I got all that crap though [00:54] if you cleaninstall xubuntu you wont have gnome/kde or anything else [00:54] cheers, gridcube I'll give it a whirl [00:54] I know where the name comes from, but I"m doing a install from upgrade, and that might come in handy, not sure this is working right [00:55] :) [00:55] oh [00:55] at any rate, its getting bookmarked :p [00:55] ok [00:56] I never install gnome stuff on my machine [00:56] I run it on my debian system, been tempted to change over, getting pampered with the "open terminal here" option [01:22] rebooting [01:27] niiiiice, worked great [01:28] thanks for the info guys, peace out [02:21] Hey, is there any easy way to get itunes working and to sync an ipod through it on xubuntu? [02:35] itunes no, synck ipod yes [02:39] !ipod | steampunknyanja [02:39] steampunknyanja: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [02:50] #xubuntu-offtopic [03:10] question: in xubuntu.... where is my network folder? cant find it any where [03:11] anyone in this room? [03:11] williammw: Try opening Gigolo - Menu > System > Gigolo [03:13] nope its not there either [03:13] nor is it in mt file manager [03:13] my [03:14] You have to "connect" to them with Gigolo, but I have it right in the side of thunar :P [03:16] i don't know what the"URL" is to my network folder [03:17] I am having the same problem [03:17] I really want to get my shared folder up [03:17] oh thank goodness im not alone and crazy [03:17] no problem [03:18] williammw: Type the "server" IP or hostname, then hit the "scan" button [03:18] I have benn having the same problem all day [03:19] this is what i get...Connecting to "(null)://(null)/" failed. [03:20] and also says... volume does not impliment mount [03:21] You need to fill out the IP or hostname and hit the blue icon next to "Share" [03:22] Is the IP or hostname your router's IP (ex: 192.168.1.1)? [03:22] under service type i only get custom location [03:22] No, what you have the network folder on [03:23] williammw: That's odd, should have Windows Share [03:23] So my computers "router assigned" IP [03:23] i have no "network folder" period [03:24] Ex: mine is 192.168.1.74 [03:24] williammw: You are using Oneiric? Type this into a terminal dpkg -l |grep gvfs |pastebinit and give me the link it spits out [03:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/710468/ [03:25] and yes im using ooo [03:26] There's your problem, install gvfs-backends [03:28] ok i'll get it and let u know what happends [03:29] I'm still having trouble here... can you please help? [03:29] Thanks in advance... [03:30] I want to create a shared folder on my networkthrough gigolo, how would I do that [03:30] Jack-xubuntu-: Tell me the output of dpkg -l |grep fuse [03:31] ii fuse-utils 2.8.4-1.4ubuntu1 Filesystem in USErspace (utilities) [03:31] ii gvfs-fuse 1.10.0-0ubuntu1 userspace virtual filesystem - fuse server [03:31] ii libfuse2 2.8.4-1.4ubuntu1 Filesystem in USErspace library [03:33] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1834271&postcount=5 [03:33] Thats what popped up... [03:35] Looks legit [03:35] Ill try and see what happens :) [03:38] unit193: u are awesome, thank you very much i now have my share to my server now [03:39] williammw: Great, glad it helped! [03:39] now i can download from my browser to my server [03:54] Hmm, I tried a live CD of Xubuntu 11.10 on a MacBook Pro and got the: 'intramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system' error. Any thoughts on why this is happening? The imagee was burned using OS X's disc utility. [03:58] bitsoda, with a mac you have to use something before for the boot loader [03:58] i think [03:58] oh, do you know what it is? [03:59] i'll try doing an md5 check [03:59] let me look [03:59] alright thanks [03:59] Thers a online article that i saw last week about it [04:01] bitsoda, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/dual-boot-os-ubuntu/ [04:01] that should explain it better then i would [04:01] ah, so rEFit [04:02] alright, i'll give this a shot. thanks a lot for your help [04:02] no worries, :) [04:06] I have another question [04:06] My mute button works on my keyboard [04:06] But the volume up and down buttons don't [04:06] So yeah how do I get those working [04:07] It used to work on the old Gnome 2 Ubuntu [04:07] Its a Logitech MK550 Not exactly sure what to select it as in the Setup program [04:08] nevermind I'll try keytouch editor [04:08] See if that works [04:53] * lameGuy is an inquisitive idiot; also new to IRC... [04:53] mmhmm.. hi [04:53] does anyone happen to know the name of that hideously annoying 'quick link' think on my otherwise beautiful xfce desktop? [04:54] I would greatly appreciate having the process name so i can kill it. [04:55] * ball wonders what it is [04:55] lameGuy: Is it some sort of dock at the bottom of the screen? [04:56] yes, thats the one, [05:00] lameGuy: Is that a Xubuntu thing or a new Xfce thing? [05:01] Ok I created a file in keytouch [05:01] But I'm not sure what to do next [05:01] i saw something similar in a different disto, was called docky, I would think it would be an addon/theme/whatever..? [05:01] There is no documentation as to what to do with the file [05:01] Or where to load it [05:01] Hence the volume up and down is still not working [05:01] thanks for the reply, btw [05:15] is there a way to get gmusicbrowser to play more than one song at a time from my server?. right now it wont, all my music is on my server. its better there [05:17] if i do it with parole it says"could not open resource for reading" [05:18] vlc? [05:20] vlc locks up [05:24] i just want to select all my songs and hit "play" every media play i know of wont work or locks up trying to queue. except windows media player. [05:25] ARRRG [05:26] hello, i have upgraded my ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10 recently and was having a lot of trouble with gnome, so i tried installing xubuntu-desktop. when I run xfce4-taskmanager, it doesn't show any processes. does this happens for others? [05:27] i wonder if i should just do a fresh install [05:27] so many issues this upgrade [05:28] mine shows processes just fine [05:29] also i added "CPU Graph" to a panel and i can't move it or right(or left) click on it to configure it [05:33] I think cpu graph just is like that now, in panel preferences you have items-tab where you can move it and change preferences [05:35] sys1: thats how i configure mine [05:36] !tab [05:36] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [05:36] hmm, and i opened gnome-system-monitor and i can see xfce4-taskmanager using up basically 100% CPU [05:36] you could try reinstalling it [05:37] do you think i need to reboot after initially installing xubuntu-desktop? [05:37] i only logged out of gnome fallback and into this session [05:38] can't see reason why should you [05:38] williammw, try audacious [05:38] its what i use for 25000+ mp3s [05:39] player with pretty bad search for that many files? :o [05:39] zenrox: i might try that, thnx [05:39] i like just to do randem [05:40] i dont seach [05:40] and the colors of some thing in the panel do not match the background, is that normal? [05:40] http://i.imgur.com/Cw8Xo.png [05:40] zenrox: yeah thats all i wanna do. select all and play [05:41] yep [05:41] its what your lookiing for [05:41] ok brb [05:41] peeps[lappy]: if you changed theme after logging into that session you might need to relogin [05:41] eh, i'll just reboot for good measure [05:43] the panel still has different background colors [05:44] task manager still not working :-( [05:44] also, the first time i load thunar, it displays no files in the right pane. then i close it and open another instance and it's ok [05:46] zenrox: thx. that player queued quick w/o locking up or opening thousands of windows. thnx [05:47] your welcome [05:47] its a winamp clone [05:47] or xmms clone [05:47] long storie [05:47] lol [05:48] zenrox: lol i love winanp too. [05:48] ya [05:48] you can make it look like winamp2x with a theme change just slect classic [05:49] well.... now i will have to fondle this program some more hehe [05:50] file-> preferances [06:09] welp this is my default player now lol [06:10] * ball wnaders off [06:10] Hi, I'm new here and would like to register my nickname. I'm not sure what "nickserv" I should use for the command. Can anyone tell me that? [06:11] !register [06:11] Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [06:11] /msg nickserv $SOMETHING [06:12] oh, so I don't substitute something for "nickserv". I was thinking I had too... [06:12] nickserv is bot handling registration [06:12] ah [06:13] try /msg nickserv help [06:14] ok I need some help [06:14] I can't figure it out for the life of me [06:15] I followed the directions and even generated the file though keytouch [06:15] But I don't know what to do with the file [06:15] and also I am still getting no control of my volume up/down button after setting the keys up [06:16] Hey, I did it! [06:17] Thanks for the help. [06:17] johnnyzero: pop a question and see if somebody knows [06:18] Well ok what I would like to do is get the volume to go up and down using my keyboard. I tried to get the keys set up VIA keytouch to do it. The problem is it made a file that I don't know what to do with. Also I'm still not able to move the volume up and down VIA the keyboard. I can only mute the volume. [06:19] If it helps I can show the keytouch file VIA Pastebin [06:19] On my desktop instance of XFCE I am missing the menu in the top right that has my username and pulls down to allow me to restart, logout etc. It is present on my laptop though. Is there a way I can get that on my desktop machine as well? [06:21] IdyllThought: right click → add new items and find the right one on the list [06:21] This is the file: http://pastebin.com/pErVc95q it is displayed on my hard drive like this: /home/johnny/logitech [06:21] logitech BTW is the file name [06:21] Not a directory [06:23] johnnyzero: open keyboard settings, hotkey tab, can you put "amixer -q set Master 5%+" to command, press enter and get your key recognozed at the next step? [06:23] Sysi, I've done that process, but can't figure out which one would provide that functionality. I may need to boot my laptop and try to inspect that object's properties to figure it out I guess... [06:23] IdyllThought: both are 11.04 or newer? [06:24] I don't see a section for hotkey tabs [06:24] Yes. My laptop is still at 11.04 and my desktop is 11.10 [06:24] Unless I'm in the wrong keyboard menu [06:24] johnnyzero: settings -> keyboard → middle tab [06:24] Only has Behavior, Application Shortcuts and Layout [06:24] IdyllThought: for me it's Session menu [06:25] johnnyzero: the shortcuts one [06:25] Wow, that was it! Thanks! [06:25] Yay that worked [06:25] Thanks Sysi [06:26] Oh wait [06:26] Still no volume down [06:26] Shows the command [06:26] But won't do it [06:26] I don't know why that was missing on my desktop. I just have deleted it by accident or something. [06:27] johnnyzero: command for volume down is "amixer -q set Master 5%-" [06:27] ooh [06:28] Sysi, yeah neither volume down nor volume up works for some reason [06:28] sorry guys, I need to go, wait for someone to pop up if you got more questions (ask and wait) [06:28] I really am glad that 11.10 now knows how to wake from sleep mode for me. [06:28] Thanks Sysi. Goodnight. [06:28] 11.04 would never wake from sleep successfully for me. [06:28] ok tc sysi [06:30] Why would someone want to wear a cloak to hide their hostname? Is it a security issue of some sort? [06:31] My keyboard is a logitech mk550 [06:31] Maybe there is an issue with that [06:31] I dunno [06:32] Johnnyzero, I'm able to use the volume buttons on my keyboard and I didn't do anything to set that up. Does every keyboard model require a config file of some sort and your keyboard is so new it doesn't have that file supplied with the distribution yet? [06:34] Just looked it up on the logitech website. Looks like a nice keyboard. [06:34] Yeah its not too bad man [06:34] But yeah it worked on Gnome 2 [06:34] But I dunno [06:34] Won't seem to on this [06:35] Johnnyzero, You are running 11.10 XFCE and having trouble with the volume keys on your keyboard? [06:36] yup IdyllThought [06:36] Yet 11.04 Ubuntu Gnome 2 worked fine [06:37] The mute button works though [06:37] Johnnyzero, have you seen this: [06:37] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/keyboard-volume-controls-not-working-in-xfce-4-6-a-709718/ === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:39] Unfortunately I don't have any settings from my old gnome config [06:39] However [06:40] Maybe thats what I need to so with that xml file I have generated [06:41] OK this is what I see in the file [06:41] [06:41] However [06:41] In another one generated I see this [06:42] name>Volume Down [06:42] 0xc00ea [06:42] VOLUMEDOWN [06:42] "xfce4-mixer" [06:42] Maybe I should replace it? [06:42] I dunno [06:42] The first set seemed closer to what was listed in the last link of that post: [06:43] http://blog.loxal.net/2009/04/audiovolume-control-keyboard-shortcuts.html [06:44] I'm not exactly sure how to find my config file, so I can share with you what is in it... [06:45] Well what I could try is [06:45] To see if the volume up and volume down work with another key [06:46] It could be just that maybe it just doesn't like that specific rocker vol up and vol down switch [06:46] What is the path to that config file? [06:47] /home/johnny/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml [06:48] Yeah ok tried other keys [06:49] It seems like it is any keys I select for that action to up the volume or lower it [06:50] hmmm, but you can't assign that to the volume keys? Just any other keys? [06:51] Yeah I even hit x and z as the keys [06:51] And it still won't seem to do it [06:52] hmm I want to see something [06:55] I'm not finding any lines in that same file that have either the word "amixer" nor "volume" Weird. [06:55] The command to use the mixer in XFCE4 is xfce4-mixer [06:56] though that doesn't seem to work [06:59] Johnnyzero, This looks promising: [06:59] http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=2611 [07:00] Tried that [07:00] Yeah still no good [07:00] for some reason [07:00] However [07:01] again seems like an overall thing [07:01] Cause it won't work with the z or x keys either [07:01] Unless it is working [07:02] and just not showing in the XFCE Mixer panel [07:02] Could be. Try playing some music. :) [07:02] ok [07:03] nope [07:04] When I hit my volume up/down keys I do get a pop-up in the top right corner of my screen showing the volume level... [07:04] Yeah I get that for mute [07:04] But not vol up and vol down [07:04] Which is weird [07:04] Yes, weird. [07:04] Though the button clearly works [07:04] !info pavucontrol [07:04] pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB [07:05] I'll try it [07:05] Lets see if it works [07:06] Ok heres what is happening [07:07] There is a little picture of a speaker with a red x [07:07] This blinks when I hit on the keyboard vol up or vol down [07:07] Problem is [07:07] Nothing happens [07:07] it's prob muted in alsamixer [07:08] try in a terminal alsamixer -c 0 [07:08] ok [07:08] S/PDIF 00 [07:08] and thats it [07:08] No volume meter [07:09] The sound is HD BTW [07:09] Its going through the radeon [07:10] alsamixer has F5/6 buttons for selecting the default card [07:10] JohnnyZero, have you tried working with xfc4-mixer? [07:10] IdyllThought, the volume will go up and down if I select it manually [07:10] But not with any key control [07:11] pavucontrol does the same sort of thing [07:11] My sound was muted at one point and I had to choose Sound card: Playback:Internal Audio Analog Stereo (PulseAudio Mixer) and then add the Master control and unmute it. [07:11] Oddly the meters blink [07:11] Though the volume doesn't go up or down [07:12] Maybe I should show you what I get in Alsamixer [07:12] There is a button there labeled "Select Controls". Perhaps try finding which control is muted... Unless it truly is a keymapping issue. [07:13] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/screenshot1017201103124.png/ [07:15] That doesn't tell me too much...??? [07:15] Have you tried the "Select Controls" thing in xfce4-mixer? [07:16] ok I did a test [07:16] With the App Shortcuts [07:17] I selected for the calculator button to mute [07:17] That didn't work [07:17] So I guess maybe that amixer command isn't working [07:18] Have you added that Master control to your Playback source? [07:18] in xfce4-mixer? [07:18] Wait a minute [07:18] I got it [07:18] of course a mixer won't work [07:18] Because I am not using alsa [07:18] I think I am going through Pulseaudio [07:18] you are [07:18] I get the feeling anyways [07:18] pulseaudio uses alsa [07:18] ooh [07:18] Hmm [07:19] Not sure then why amixer can't be controlled [07:19] but switch the mixer to pulseaudio and check that too [07:19] With the buttons [07:19] with the dropdown at the top [07:19] Oh you know what I see [07:19] There are volume meters for pulseaudio [07:19] Buty [07:20] The Alsa mixer meter is blank [07:20] It just has a checkmark [07:20] That says IEC958 [07:20] :/ [07:21] I will show you guys what it looks like [07:21] is your user in the 'audio' group? [07:22] I'm going to have to go to bed guys. Good luck on this. Seems like you are getting closer. I have a feeling your sound is just muted somehow. [07:22] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/257/screenshot1017201103204.png/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/screenshot1017201103205.png/ and finally http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/screenshot1017201103210.png/ [07:23] Thats the entire XFCE Mixer panels [07:23] As you can see Pulseaudio works through it [07:23] But Alsa doesn't [07:23] When you play a sound track do you hear anything at all? or no sound? [07:24] You mean through aplay or just sound in general [07:24] Cause I get sound in general [07:24] I just haven't tried sound VIA aplay [07:24] music of some sort? [07:24] or a podcast [07:27] got to sleep now. Goodnight. [07:27] tc thanks for trying to help [07:28] you're welcome. night. [07:28] File plays in Parole [07:28] I will try it in APlay [07:29] Yow! [07:29] Static in APlay [07:29] Sounds like a TV set when you hear fuzz [07:30] lol i know that sound all too welll [07:30] It would seem Pulseaudio is working fine [07:30] But not Alsa [07:30] Or to be more specific [07:31] Alsa components [07:31] Like Volume Control and APlay [07:31] !enter [07:31] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [07:31]