[01:00] <piousminion> My install seems to be stuck at "Configuring target system" - "ubuntu ubiquity[3347]: log-output -t ubiquity laptop-detect" and won't go any farther. Ideas?
[03:46] <lurburnter> is anybody elses notification notification creating blank spaces in their panel?
[03:51] <lurburnter> as in there is an invisible force field of untouchable icons blazing from right to left on my task bar
[04:15] <sagaci> yep, the networkmanager applet is blank after it connects to 3G
[04:59] <wingiii> plz anybody can tell me why official lubuntu website is down?
[05:10] <JohnDoe_71Rus> to many interest. may be
[05:11] <Unit193> It got a redirect so that Canonicle (spelled badly :P) would handle the load from the new release
[12:57] <SAKKED> how can i change character encoding??
[12:57] <SAKKED> LXTerminal
[13:17] <Laibcoms> question, how do I add another keyboard layout with lxkeymap?  And what's the shortcut key to switch between layouts?
[13:20] <KM0201> hmm, thats a good one
[13:29] <morko> Laibcoms, KM0201: The keyboard layout can't be saved using LXKeymap. To change permanently your keyboard layout, please run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[13:30] <morko> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/OneiricOcelot
[13:30] <KM0201> ah ok.
[13:30] <KM0201> i knew how to reconfigure, but i didn't know you couldn't save multiple layouts
[13:48] <Laibcoms> Ah so it's not possible to have multiple layouts right now. I thought I just can't find the setting, currently if I need to type in a different script I have to run lxkeymap window to switch.  Thanks tnx. ^^
[14:46] <silverarrow> what are the differences in lubuntu 11.10 compared to previous ?
[14:47] <silverarrow> on my old hard ware it runs with less cpu load streaming tv and similar
[14:47] <silverarrow> the lubuntu guys have managed to make it even lighter, or is it a driver thing?
[14:48] <Neosano> "The release did not include many new features as work focused on integration with Ubuntu instead."
[14:48] <Neosano> says the wikipedia
[14:48] <silverarrow> maybe just a fluke happening then
[14:49] <silverarrow> there is usually an explanation though
[14:49] <Neosano> and there's a problem for me :< livecd doesn't start
[14:49] <Neosano> I checked for disc errors - no errors were found
[14:49] <silverarrow> I see
[14:49] <Neosano> I can see lubuntu loading screen with these 5 dots
[14:50] <Neosano> and then it throws me to the console
[14:50] <silverarrow> it will not boot at all? you have checked bios settings ?
[14:50] <silverarrow> I see
[14:50] <Neosano> if I type "startx" it loads lxde desktop.. but not the lubuntu one
[14:50] <silverarrow> hmm, I had that on some hardware in Ubuntu
[14:50] <Neosano> so there's LXDE image on the desktop and this ugly lxpanel skin :<
[14:51] <Neosano> previous versions were working just fine!
[14:51] <silverarrow> but this time it boots fine on a HP I haven't manage to install any buntu at all
[15:00] <NRWlion> hey there
[15:00] <NRWlion> have a bug to report ... but not the time to do the paperwork ^^ who is available for help?
[15:13] <NRWlion> hi IAmNotThatGuy ;) are you able to help me with a bug i encountered?
[15:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> bug?
[15:14] <Neosano> "sudo service lxdm start" fixed my problem, please fix it anyway -.-
[15:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> NRWlion, Whats the issue?
[15:15] <IAmNotThatGuy> PM me
[15:30] <MidnighToker> hi people
[15:30] <MidnighToker> anyone know how to configure the autologon? it gave me an option during install but I can't now disable it :)
[15:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> MidnighToker: search lightdm
[15:34] <MidnighToker> ty :)
[15:37] <MidnighToker> ah, and for the record, `lxdm-config` also lets me disable it :)
[16:36] <croque> How do I toggle the titlebar back on once I've un-decorated it from the window menu?
[16:37] <wxl> croque: mouse over like you're going to grow the window and right click
[16:39] <croque> wxl:  Cool...works great...thanks for the tip.
[16:42] <wxl> np
[16:48] <wxl> why is gir unity included in the latest set of updates?
[17:43] <morri> hi guys,
[17:44] <wxl> hey morri
[17:44] <jgratero> Hi
[17:44] <morri> recently updated lubuntu and firestly it upgraded firefox too, and Id like to downgrade and secondly firefox tells me the flash is outdated
[17:44] <morri> and therefore it doesn't show any flash
[17:45] <wxl> you'd like to downgrade which?
[17:46] <morri> I dlike to have firefox 5 again
[17:46] <bioterror> why?
[17:46] <morri> but I would go with 7 if the flash (which is installed) was working(or if firefox would let it work)
[17:47] <wxl> so if i'm hearing you right you'd like to change just because the upgraded one didn't work with flash?
[17:48] <morri> well I would like to downgrade because I don't like other things in 7 either, I had it downgraded before when I was in 11.04 and locked it but now it is not available anymore
[17:50] <morri> also the update disabled some of the repositories and I am not sure how to enable them again
[17:50] <bioterror> with synaptic
[17:50] <wxl> so first you need to downgrade, right?
[17:51] <bioterror> check first you have all proper repos enabled
[17:51] <bioterror> like partner
[17:51] <bioterror> restricted
[17:51] <jgratero> Is it possible for the line-in, or audio input of a webcam to be deactivated in alsamixer?
[17:51] <bioterror> and then do update && dist-upgrade
[17:54] <morri> http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7483/screenshot181011195231.png
[17:54] <morri> thats what the repository sources look like atm
[18:02] <morri> so anyway how do I enable them again?
[18:04] <wxl> GIMP
[18:04] <wxl> Inkscape
[18:04] <wxl> oops
[18:04] <wxl> sorry
[18:09] <morri> Anyway how do I get the flash to work again? On the firefox site it says it is disabled because it is too old, but there does not seem to be a newer version
[18:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> morri: for disaple repo try change distro name to oneric
[18:13] <morri> it also disabled a oneiric repo
[18:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> you don't how check disabled repos in left ?
[18:16] <wxl> meh maverick-updates is 3.6.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1 and natty is 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1
[18:16] <wxl> somewhere in between is 5
[18:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> morri: edit this record
[18:17] <wxl> ah ha, found it: firefox (5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3) natty-security; urgency=low
[18:17] <wxl>   * No change rebuild to pick up LP: #800857 on armel and powerpc
[18:17] <wxl>  -- Micah Gersten <micahg@ubuntu.com>  Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:45:24 +0100
[18:18] <wxl> so now you know the repo to add
[18:18] <wxl> and then you can force version
[18:19] <wxl> sudo apt-get install firefox=5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3
[18:19] <wxl> at which point you should lock it
[18:19] <wxl> echo "<package_name> hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[18:22] <morri> not sure what you were saying there JohnDoe_71Rus ?!
[18:24] <wxl> my guess iis he's pointing you at /etc/apt/sources.list but you can do all that through preferences > software sources which it looks like you already know how toget to
[18:24] <wxl> it will be commented (#) in the list but it will just be unchecked in software sources
[18:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> morri: remove text "disabled on ... oneric"
[18:25] <JohnDoe_71Rus> right line must be "deb http://... "
[18:30] <morri> deb http:// ot this? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <wxl> the line in /etc/apt/sources.list should start out deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com (assuming ddebs is an actual server..)
[18:34] <morri> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com oneiric main restricted universe multiverse #oneiric main restricted
[18:34] <morri> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse #natty-restricted
[18:34] <morri> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty-security main restricted universe multiverse #natty-security
[18:34] <morri> deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[18:34] <wxl> looks right
[18:34] <wxl> the penultimate one is the one you need
[18:34] <wxl> if that's good follow instrucitons above
[18:35] <wxl> after you sudo apt-get update
[18:35] <morri> it doesn't seem to be able to access the sources though..
[18:36] <wxl> ah
[18:36] <wxl> all of mine are http://*.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[18:37] <wxl> where * is something
[18:37] <wxl> (e.g. archive, ports)
[18:37] <wxl> so try adding the /ubuntu
[18:40] <micahg> morri: Firefox 5 is no longer secure
[18:41] <wxl> not surprising, that
[18:41] <morri> well don't mind 3.6 whatver either
[18:41] <micahg> morri: which release are you on?
[18:41] <morri> 7
[18:41] <micahg> flash should be working fine
[18:41] <morri> for some reason it hasnt worked since the distro upgrad
[18:42] <morri> e
[18:42] <wxl> < morri:#lubuntu> well I would like to downgrade because I don't like other things in 7 either
[18:42] <wxl> (i.e. it's not just flash)
[18:42] <morri> yeah same with me. not just flash
[18:42] <morri> I downgraded while iw was using natty as well
[18:42] <wxl> i'm repeating what you said morri
[18:42] <JohnDoe_71Rus> morri: natty-* change to oneric-*
[18:42] <wxl> i like the new firefox :D
[18:43] <micahg> well, unfortunately, there's no easy way to roll back to 11.04
[18:43] <morri> i don't want to roll back though
[18:43] <wxl> he doesn't want 11.04
[18:43] <wxl> he wants firefox 5
[18:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> last flash in partners
[18:44] <morri> btw I tried in midori browser and it said the same thing
[18:44] <morri> flash is outdated
[18:45] <micahg> flash is up to date in oneiric, do you have a version installed in your profile?
[18:45] <morri> and epiphany so it has to do with something else, but not liking firefox 7 is a different issue
[18:45] <morri> 11.0.1.152ubuntu1
[18:50] <morri> well reinstalling the flash fixed the flash
[18:50] <morri> but not the downgrade for ff
[18:51] <wxl> if you have the right repos installing firefox=versionnumber works
[19:03] <silverlightning> I have booted classic pup a couple of times and it is much faster than lupu on some apps
[19:03] <silverlightning> however, it is a pain with wireless
[19:04] <silverlightning> why o why doesn't it have simple network setup
[19:04] <silverlightning> lol
[19:04] <silverlightning> hi mark76
[19:05] <mark76> Hey silverlightning
[19:05] <morri> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
[19:05] <morri> ## developers who want to ship their latest software.
[19:05] <morri> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main
[19:05] <morri> deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main
[19:05] <morri> # deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com oneiric main universe multiverse # disabled on upgrade to oneiric
[19:05] <morri> # deb-src http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main universe multiverse
[19:06] <wxl> morri: use pastebin
[19:06] <mark76> I'm measuring a wall
[19:06] <morri> If I take away the disabled there will it be accessible again(
[19:06] <silverlightning> mark76:  do you know if there is a way to make usb wireless show in terminal?
[19:07] <wxl> you can sure try morri but you really need natty-security
[19:07] <wxl> not oneiric or natty
[19:07] <mark76> I don't. Sorry
[19:07] <morri> http://pastebin.com/qUWaDxPV
[19:08] <morri> lsusb silverlightning
[19:09] <silverlightning> thanks ; )
[19:09] <morri> http://pastebin.com/dkb9mW6q
[19:10] <morri> thats the full sources list wxl
[19:11] <silverlightning> I have a realtek card apparently
[19:16] <wxl> morri: add this and i bet it works:
[19:16] <wxl> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[19:16] <wxl> then:
[19:16] <wxl> sudo apt-get update
[19:16] <wxl> sudo apt-get install firefox=5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3
[19:17] <wxl> echo "firefox hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[19:17] <wxl> done
[19:17] <wxl> if you want to do that first one by command line:
[19:18] <wxl> echo "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security main restricted universe multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:19] <wxl> 4 steps
[19:19] <wxl> you can do it :D
[19:22] <morri> whatever I do the end is : E: Version ‘5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3’ for ‘firefox’ was not found
[19:22] <morri> morri@schrabbelkiste:~$
[19:24] <wxl> so that is strange
[19:24] <wxl> load up synaptic and try to use the force version option
[19:26] <morri> force version only offers two 7 versions
[19:28] <wxl> i'm gonna try this myself
[19:31] <micahg> 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3 was never tested nor released IIRC
[19:31] <wxl> the release notes suggest otherwise
[19:32] <wxl> or rather the "ubuntu changelog"
[19:32] <micahg> huh?  what release notes would mention that version it was staged in  the mozillateam PPA
[19:32] <wxl> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1/changelog
[19:32] <micahg> oh, hmm, I might have forgot to removed it..
[19:32]  * micahg should clean that up for 8
[19:33] <micahg> anyways, 5 is unsupported, what specific issues are you having that make you want to go back?
[19:33] <wxl> morri: ^^
[19:34] <morri> I don't like the url bar in 7
[19:35] <morri> I do have a firefox 5 in my files anyway I can get it to install?
[19:36] <micahg> the URL bar, what about it?
[19:37] <morri> I don#t like the graying out
[19:39] <micahg> morri: that's a simple fix in about:config, change browser.urlbar.formatting.enabled to false
[19:40] <morri> it also crashed often first time i used it  but maybe thats ironed out by now..
[19:48] <wxl> and besides only with natty (not natty-security) can you get lower than 7.. and it's 4
[19:50] <micahg> wxl: which is also very insecure at this point ~25 CVEs + diginotar certificate issues
[19:51] <wxl> micahg: again not what i'd want, but sometimes people want what they want
[19:51] <micahg> morri: well, crashes could be caused by incompatible addons, most should be updated by now though, if you get a crash and can report it with the crash reporter, we can look at it based on the crash id in about:crashes
[19:52] <micahg> wxl: right, but sometimes, people are quick to downgrade when it's a simple pref that can fix their issue :)
[19:52] <morri> okay cool :)
[19:52] <wxl> micahg: i'm with ya
[19:52] <morri> thanks for all your help :)
[20:39] <bill07> just installed lubunto 10.11.  What package do I install to get the System-Preferences-Display applet to configure dual monitors?
[20:41] <bioterror> http://www.pixelshine.net/howto/2011/02/03/dual-monitors-lxde-lubuntu-fixed/
[20:41] <bioterror> something like that
[20:42] <bioterror> but as lubuntu is targeted for low spec computers, people are mostly using one 15" CRT ;)
[20:43] <Unit193> Hey, I'm magic, I may have a 17" one! ;)
[21:14] <SAKKED> some1 help me
[21:14] <SAKKED> how to change character encoding?
[21:14] <SAKKED> in LXterminal
[21:24] <wxl> SAKKED: wuz the deal?
[21:25] <wxl> my lxterminal seems super happy with utf-8 tho i don't know of a setting for it
[21:28] <SAKKED> well
[21:28] <SAKKED> when i use irssi...
[21:29] <SAKKED> it doesnt show some letters right
[21:29] <wxl> i ssh to a server where i use irssi in tmux
[21:29] <wxl> so there :D
[21:29] <bioterror> SAKKED, mitäpä sä meinaat?
[21:29] <SAKKED> vittu ku en nää ääkkösii :D
[21:29] <bioterror> SAKKED, have you configured your irssi?
[21:29] <wxl> if you RUN lxterminal versus clicking on the icon, does it fix it?
[21:30] <wxl> (might be the .desktop entry not properly specifying utf8 encoding)
[21:30] <wxl> or maybe it's a font issue
[21:30] <bioterror> SAKKED, are you using kosh?-) and running irssi under screen?
[21:30] <SAKKED> yes
[21:30] <wxl> bah that might be it
[21:30] <wxl> use tmux instead
[21:30] <bioterror> did you remember to use screen -U?-)
[21:31] <SAKKED> hmm
[21:31] <SAKKED> i dont think so =)
[21:31] <SAKKED> but it ÄÖÅ letter works with windows
[21:31] <bioterror> SAKKED, http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/pahirvin/UTF-8-ohje.html
[21:31] <SAKKED> when i connect with putt
[21:31] <SAKKED> y
[21:32] <wxl> ew putty
[21:32] <wxl> i wish they'd come up with a decent solution
[21:32] <wxl> i use lubuntu vm at work just so i don't have to use putty :D
[21:32] <bioterror> putty uses by default iso-8859-15
[21:32] <wxl> frankly i wish we'd just move to linux like we've been talking about for 15,000 years, but oh well
[21:32] <bioterror> you have to change that char encoding to UTF-8
[21:33] <bioterror> I wish we all would use Lotus Notes
[21:33] <wxl> you're scaring me, dude.
[21:33] <bioterror> ;)
[21:34] <wxl> well it's funny because the office is full of linuxers
[21:34] <SAKKED> äää
[21:34] <SAKKED> lol
[21:34] <wxl> unfortunately we have a legacy database.. i shudder to even mention it.. access 95
[21:34] <bioterror> SAKKED, works for me :)
[21:34] <wxl> i see it here
[21:34] <SAKKED> now it works
[21:34] <SAKKED> i am using putty now
[21:34] <SAKKED> :D
[21:35] <bioterror> SAKKED, and if you look for putty's terminal configuration
[21:35] <bioterror> it's using iso-8859-1
[21:35] <bioterror> and that's... so 90's :D
[21:35] <SAKKED> yes
[21:35] <SAKKED> ok :D
[21:35] <wxl> one thing i found annoying about putty is that i could not get it to properly use drawing characters for ncurses windows AND do utf8
[21:35] <bioterror> irssi users made me to use weechat :(
[21:35] <wxl> hahahahahah
[21:35] <bioterror> as they started to puke utf-8 into channels
[21:36] <bioterror> and I had to ditch ascii charset based irc client
[21:40] <bioterror> SAKKED, it's really confusing trying to set things into utf-8
[21:40] <bioterror> but when you succeed, it will reward
[21:40] <bioterror> I really wasted lots of effort changing locales and everything into iso-8859-1 when utf-8 started to come into desktops
[21:40] <SAKKED> bioterror: kaikil suomalaisil kannuil jengi näyttäis käyttävä ISO-8859-1
[21:40] <SAKKED> =)
[21:41] <bioterror> oot viisailla zänneillä sit
[21:41] <SAKKED> :D
[21:43] <SAKKED> so theres no way to change char encoding?
[21:43] <SAKKED> to LXterminal
[21:44] <bioterror> SAKKED, did you do all the utf-8 configurations to your irssi that was on that webpage I pasted?
[21:45] <SAKKED> no cuz every1 is usin ISO-8859-1 =)
[21:45] <bioterror> you can configure you client to use utf-8 and spit iso-8859-1 into channels
[21:45] <bioterror> and that's how it should be
[21:45] <bioterror> in a matter of fact
[21:46] <bioterror> your client
[21:46] <bioterror> or just weara a troll mask and all the way utf-8
[21:46] <bioterror> you can blame "naula" for that then ;)
[21:48] <SAKKED> :D
[21:52] <wxl> i believe lxterminal is naturally utf8
[21:52] <wxl> (could be wrong)
[21:52] <bioterror> it's
[21:52] <bioterror> ubuntus comes utf-8 as locale
[21:52] <wxl> the .desktop specifies utf8
[21:53] <wxl> there's no lxterminal.conf setting or command line flag that will allow for utf8
[21:53] <wxl> if you really want to make sure you could use a terminal that you KNOW is utf8
[21:53] <wxl> what's what one?
[21:54] <wxl> mlterm
[21:55] <bioterror> SAKKED, http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=3094.msg45997#msg45997 replace mrxvt with lxterminal
[21:58] <SAKKED> dont have sudo rights
[21:58] <SAKKED> to kosh
[21:58] <bioterror> you dont need them
[21:58] <bioterror> you just launch from your alt+f2
[21:59] <bioterror> that LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.ISO-8859-1" lxterminal
[21:59] <bioterror> or what ever
[21:59] <bioterror> for example
[22:03] <SAKKED> LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.ISO-8859-1" Eterm
[22:03] <SAKKED> it put that to lxterminal
[22:03] <SAKKED> it says command-not-found crashed
[22:03] <SAKKED> etc
[22:04] <SAKKED> evo....
[22:04] <SAKKED> fuck this shit :D
[22:04] <SAKKED> im going sleep now
[22:04] <SAKKED> -->