[01:00] My install seems to be stuck at "Configuring target system" - "ubuntu ubiquity[3347]: log-output -t ubiquity laptop-detect" and won't go any farther. Ideas? [03:46] is anybody elses notification notification creating blank spaces in their panel? [03:51] as in there is an invisible force field of untouchable icons blazing from right to left on my task bar [04:15] yep, the networkmanager applet is blank after it connects to 3G [04:59] plz anybody can tell me why official lubuntu website is down? [05:10] to many interest. may be [05:11] It got a redirect so that Canonicle (spelled badly :P) would handle the load from the new release [12:57] how can i change character encoding?? [12:57] LXTerminal [13:17] question, how do I add another keyboard layout with lxkeymap? And what's the shortcut key to switch between layouts? [13:20] hmm, thats a good one [13:29] Laibcoms, KM0201: The keyboard layout can't be saved using LXKeymap. To change permanently your keyboard layout, please run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" [13:30] from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/OneiricOcelot [13:30] ah ok. [13:30] i knew how to reconfigure, but i didn't know you couldn't save multiple layouts [13:48] Ah so it's not possible to have multiple layouts right now. I thought I just can't find the setting, currently if I need to type in a different script I have to run lxkeymap window to switch. Thanks tnx. ^^ === silverlightning is now known as silverarrow [14:46] what are the differences in lubuntu 11.10 compared to previous ? [14:47] on my old hard ware it runs with less cpu load streaming tv and similar [14:47] the lubuntu guys have managed to make it even lighter, or is it a driver thing? [14:48] "The release did not include many new features as work focused on integration with Ubuntu instead." [14:48] says the wikipedia [14:48] maybe just a fluke happening then [14:49] there is usually an explanation though [14:49] and there's a problem for me :< livecd doesn't start [14:49] I checked for disc errors - no errors were found [14:49] I see [14:49] I can see lubuntu loading screen with these 5 dots [14:50] and then it throws me to the console [14:50] it will not boot at all? you have checked bios settings ? [14:50] I see [14:50] if I type "startx" it loads lxde desktop.. but not the lubuntu one [14:50] hmm, I had that on some hardware in Ubuntu [14:50] so there's LXDE image on the desktop and this ugly lxpanel skin :< [14:51] previous versions were working just fine! [14:51] but this time it boots fine on a HP I haven't manage to install any buntu at all [15:00] hey there [15:00] have a bug to report ... but not the time to do the paperwork ^^ who is available for help? [15:13] hi IAmNotThatGuy ;) are you able to help me with a bug i encountered? [15:13] bug? [15:14] "sudo service lxdm start" fixed my problem, please fix it anyway -.- [15:14] NRWlion, Whats the issue? [15:15] PM me [15:30] hi people [15:30] anyone know how to configure the autologon? it gave me an option during install but I can't now disable it :) [15:33] MidnighToker: search lightdm [15:34] ty :) [15:37] ah, and for the record, `lxdm-config` also lets me disable it :) [16:36] How do I toggle the titlebar back on once I've un-decorated it from the window menu? [16:37] croque: mouse over like you're going to grow the window and right click [16:39] wxl: Cool...works great...thanks for the tip. [16:42] np [16:48] why is gir unity included in the latest set of updates? === AmberJ is now known as AmberJain [17:43] hi guys, [17:44] hey morri [17:44] Hi [17:44] recently updated lubuntu and firestly it upgraded firefox too, and Id like to downgrade and secondly firefox tells me the flash is outdated [17:44] and therefore it doesn't show any flash [17:45] you'd like to downgrade which? [17:46] I dlike to have firefox 5 again [17:46] why? [17:46] but I would go with 7 if the flash (which is installed) was working(or if firefox would let it work) [17:47] so if i'm hearing you right you'd like to change just because the upgraded one didn't work with flash? [17:48] well I would like to downgrade because I don't like other things in 7 either, I had it downgraded before when I was in 11.04 and locked it but now it is not available anymore [17:50] also the update disabled some of the repositories and I am not sure how to enable them again [17:50] with synaptic [17:50] so first you need to downgrade, right? [17:51] check first you have all proper repos enabled [17:51] like partner [17:51] restricted [17:51] Is it possible for the line-in, or audio input of a webcam to be deactivated in alsamixer? [17:51] and then do update && dist-upgrade [17:54] http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7483/screenshot181011195231.png [17:54] thats what the repository sources look like atm === silverlightning is now known as silverarrow [18:02] so anyway how do I enable them again? [18:04] GIMP [18:04] Inkscape [18:04] oops [18:04] sorry [18:09] Anyway how do I get the flash to work again? On the firefox site it says it is disabled because it is too old, but there does not seem to be a newer version [18:12] morri: for disaple repo try change distro name to oneric [18:13] it also disabled a oneiric repo [18:16] you don't how check disabled repos in left ? [18:16] meh maverick-updates is 3.6.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1 and natty is 7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 [18:16] somewhere in between is 5 [18:16] morri: edit this record [18:17] ah ha, found it: firefox (5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3) natty-security; urgency=low [18:17] * No change rebuild to pick up LP: #800857 on armel and powerpc [18:17] -- Micah Gersten Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:45:24 +0100 [18:18] so now you know the repo to add [18:18] and then you can force version [18:19] sudo apt-get install firefox=5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3 [18:19] at which point you should lock it [18:19] echo " hold" | dpkg --set-selections [18:22] not sure what you were saying there JohnDoe_71Rus ?! [18:24] my guess iis he's pointing you at /etc/apt/sources.list but you can do all that through preferences > software sources which it looks like you already know how toget to [18:24] it will be commented (#) in the list but it will just be unchecked in software sources [18:24] morri: remove text "disabled on ... oneric" [18:25] right line must be "deb http://... " [18:30] deb http:// ot this? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com === LinoSP is now known as LinoSP|away [18:30] the line in /etc/apt/sources.list should start out deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com (assuming ddebs is an actual server..) [18:34] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com oneiric main restricted universe multiverse #oneiric main restricted [18:34] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse #natty-restricted [18:34] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty-security main restricted universe multiverse #natty-security [18:34] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse [18:34] looks right [18:34] the penultimate one is the one you need [18:34] if that's good follow instrucitons above [18:35] after you sudo apt-get update [18:35] it doesn't seem to be able to access the sources though.. [18:36] ah [18:36] all of mine are http://*.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [18:37] where * is something [18:37] (e.g. archive, ports) [18:37] so try adding the /ubuntu [18:40] morri: Firefox 5 is no longer secure [18:41] not surprising, that [18:41] well don't mind 3.6 whatver either [18:41] morri: which release are you on? [18:41] 7 [18:41] flash should be working fine [18:41] for some reason it hasnt worked since the distro upgrad [18:42] e [18:42] < morri:#lubuntu> well I would like to downgrade because I don't like other things in 7 either [18:42] (i.e. it's not just flash) [18:42] yeah same with me. not just flash [18:42] I downgraded while iw was using natty as well [18:42] i'm repeating what you said morri [18:42] morri: natty-* change to oneric-* [18:42] i like the new firefox :D [18:43] well, unfortunately, there's no easy way to roll back to 11.04 [18:43] i don't want to roll back though [18:43] he doesn't want 11.04 [18:43] he wants firefox 5 [18:43] last flash in partners [18:44] btw I tried in midori browser and it said the same thing [18:44] flash is outdated [18:45] flash is up to date in oneiric, do you have a version installed in your profile? [18:45] and epiphany so it has to do with something else, but not liking firefox 7 is a different issue [18:45] 11.0.1.152ubuntu1 [18:50] well reinstalling the flash fixed the flash [18:50] but not the downgrade for ff [18:51] if you have the right repos installing firefox=versionnumber works [19:03] I have booted classic pup a couple of times and it is much faster than lupu on some apps [19:03] however, it is a pain with wireless [19:04] why o why doesn't it have simple network setup [19:04] lol [19:04] hi mark76 [19:05] Hey silverlightning [19:05] ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party [19:05] ## developers who want to ship their latest software. [19:05] deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main [19:05] deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main [19:05] # deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com oneiric main universe multiverse # disabled on upgrade to oneiric [19:05] # deb-src http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main universe multiverse [19:06] morri: use pastebin [19:06] I'm measuring a wall [19:06] If I take away the disabled there will it be accessible again( [19:06] mark76: do you know if there is a way to make usb wireless show in terminal? [19:07] you can sure try morri but you really need natty-security [19:07] not oneiric or natty [19:07] I don't. Sorry [19:07] http://pastebin.com/qUWaDxPV [19:08] lsusb silverlightning [19:09] thanks ; ) [19:09] http://pastebin.com/dkb9mW6q [19:10] thats the full sources list wxl [19:11] I have a realtek card apparently [19:16] morri: add this and i bet it works: [19:16] deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security main restricted universe multiverse [19:16] then: [19:16] sudo apt-get update [19:16] sudo apt-get install firefox=5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3 [19:17] echo "firefox hold" | dpkg --set-selections [19:17] done [19:17] if you want to do that first one by command line: [19:18] echo "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security main restricted universe multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list [19:19] 4 steps [19:19] you can do it :D [19:22] whatever I do the end is : E: Version ‘5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3’ for ‘firefox’ was not found [19:22] morri@schrabbelkiste:~$ [19:24] so that is strange [19:24] load up synaptic and try to use the force version option [19:26] force version only offers two 7 versions [19:28] i'm gonna try this myself [19:31] 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.3 was never tested nor released IIRC [19:31] the release notes suggest otherwise [19:32] or rather the "ubuntu changelog" [19:32] huh? what release notes would mention that version it was staged in the mozillateam PPA [19:32] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_7.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1/changelog [19:32] oh, hmm, I might have forgot to removed it.. [19:32] * micahg should clean that up for 8 [19:33] anyways, 5 is unsupported, what specific issues are you having that make you want to go back? [19:33] morri: ^^ [19:34] I don't like the url bar in 7 [19:35] I do have a firefox 5 in my files anyway I can get it to install? [19:36] the URL bar, what about it? [19:37] I don#t like the graying out [19:39] morri: that's a simple fix in about:config, change browser.urlbar.formatting.enabled to false [19:40] it also crashed often first time i used it but maybe thats ironed out by now.. [19:48] and besides only with natty (not natty-security) can you get lower than 7.. and it's 4 [19:50] wxl: which is also very insecure at this point ~25 CVEs + diginotar certificate issues [19:51] micahg: again not what i'd want, but sometimes people want what they want [19:51] morri: well, crashes could be caused by incompatible addons, most should be updated by now though, if you get a crash and can report it with the crash reporter, we can look at it based on the crash id in about:crashes [19:52] wxl: right, but sometimes, people are quick to downgrade when it's a simple pref that can fix their issue :) [19:52] okay cool :) [19:52] micahg: i'm with ya [19:52] thanks for all your help :) [20:39] just installed lubunto 10.11. What package do I install to get the System-Preferences-Display applet to configure dual monitors? [20:41] http://www.pixelshine.net/howto/2011/02/03/dual-monitors-lxde-lubuntu-fixed/ [20:41] something like that [20:42] but as lubuntu is targeted for low spec computers, people are mostly using one 15" CRT ;) [20:43] Hey, I'm magic, I may have a 17" one! ;) [21:14] some1 help me [21:14] how to change character encoding? [21:14] in LXterminal [21:24] SAKKED: wuz the deal? [21:25] my lxterminal seems super happy with utf-8 tho i don't know of a setting for it === silverlightning is now known as silverarrow [21:28] well [21:28] when i use irssi... [21:29] it doesnt show some letters right [21:29] i ssh to a server where i use irssi in tmux [21:29] so there :D [21:29] SAKKED, mitäpä sä meinaat? [21:29] vittu ku en nää ääkkösii :D [21:29] SAKKED, have you configured your irssi? [21:29] if you RUN lxterminal versus clicking on the icon, does it fix it? [21:30] (might be the .desktop entry not properly specifying utf8 encoding) [21:30] or maybe it's a font issue [21:30] SAKKED, are you using kosh?-) and running irssi under screen? [21:30] yes [21:30] bah that might be it [21:30] use tmux instead [21:30] did you remember to use screen -U?-) [21:31] hmm [21:31] i dont think so =) [21:31] but it ÄÖÅ letter works with windows [21:31] SAKKED, http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/pahirvin/UTF-8-ohje.html [21:31] when i connect with putt [21:31] y [21:32] ew putty [21:32] i wish they'd come up with a decent solution [21:32] i use lubuntu vm at work just so i don't have to use putty :D [21:32] putty uses by default iso-8859-15 [21:32] frankly i wish we'd just move to linux like we've been talking about for 15,000 years, but oh well [21:32] you have to change that char encoding to UTF-8 [21:33] I wish we all would use Lotus Notes [21:33] you're scaring me, dude. [21:33] ;) [21:34] well it's funny because the office is full of linuxers [21:34] äää [21:34] lol [21:34] unfortunately we have a legacy database.. i shudder to even mention it.. access 95 [21:34] SAKKED, works for me :) [21:34] i see it here [21:34] now it works [21:34] i am using putty now [21:34] :D [21:35] SAKKED, and if you look for putty's terminal configuration [21:35] it's using iso-8859-1 [21:35] and that's... so 90's :D [21:35] yes [21:35] ok :D [21:35] one thing i found annoying about putty is that i could not get it to properly use drawing characters for ncurses windows AND do utf8 [21:35] irssi users made me to use weechat :( [21:35] hahahahahah [21:35] as they started to puke utf-8 into channels [21:36] and I had to ditch ascii charset based irc client [21:40] SAKKED, it's really confusing trying to set things into utf-8 [21:40] but when you succeed, it will reward [21:40] I really wasted lots of effort changing locales and everything into iso-8859-1 when utf-8 started to come into desktops [21:40] bioterror: kaikil suomalaisil kannuil jengi näyttäis käyttävä ISO-8859-1 [21:40] =) [21:41] oot viisailla zänneillä sit [21:41] :D [21:43] so theres no way to change char encoding? [21:43] to LXterminal [21:44] SAKKED, did you do all the utf-8 configurations to your irssi that was on that webpage I pasted? [21:45] no cuz every1 is usin ISO-8859-1 =) [21:45] you can configure you client to use utf-8 and spit iso-8859-1 into channels [21:45] and that's how it should be [21:45] in a matter of fact [21:46] your client [21:46] or just weara a troll mask and all the way utf-8 [21:46] you can blame "naula" for that then ;) [21:48] :D [21:52] i believe lxterminal is naturally utf8 [21:52] (could be wrong) [21:52] it's [21:52] ubuntus comes utf-8 as locale [21:52] the .desktop specifies utf8 [21:53] there's no lxterminal.conf setting or command line flag that will allow for utf8 [21:53] if you really want to make sure you could use a terminal that you KNOW is utf8 [21:53] what's what one? [21:54] mlterm [21:55] SAKKED, http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=3094.msg45997#msg45997 replace mrxvt with lxterminal [21:58] dont have sudo rights [21:58] to kosh [21:58] you dont need them [21:58] you just launch from your alt+f2 [21:59] that LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.ISO-8859-1" lxterminal [21:59] or what ever [21:59] for example [22:03] LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.ISO-8859-1" Eterm [22:03] it put that to lxterminal [22:03] it says command-not-found crashed [22:03] etc [22:04] evo.... [22:04] fuck this shit :D [22:04] im going sleep now [22:04] -->