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Marine1need assistance I can't have more than 1 application playing music or the other one whether it's the internet or desktop application.04:14
Marine1if vlc is playing then i don't hear any sound coming from youtube04:15
holsteinhmm04:15
Marine1or vica versa04:15
holsteinwhy would you want to do that anyway..04:15
* holstein testing...04:15
Marine1somwtimes switching back and forth04:15
Marine1holstein: but that shoudn't matter04:15
Marine1holstein: i should be able to play both at the same time04:16
Marine1holstein: any suggestion?04:16
holsteinwell, i cant play both04:16
holsteini would suggest not playing both at the same time04:16
holsteini cant imagine why you would want to04:17
holsteinbut, you should be able to04:17
holsteinlets try something other than VLC04:17
Marine1holstein: im have even movie player same results04:17
holsteinMarine1: yeah, i understand04:18
Marine1holstein: o.k.?04:18
holsteingive me a mintue04:18
holsteinand ill make 2 things play04:18
holsteinand tell you how i did it04:18
Marine1holstein: i din't have this problem in 10.1004:18
holsteinwell, im in 10.0404:19
Marine1holstein: i'm 11.1004:19
holsteini dont know04:19
holsteini dont do that04:19
holsteini just play files04:19
holsteinim more of a content creator though04:19
Marine1holstein: :>)04:19
holsteinits never come up for me...04:19
holsteinanyways... i'll get it working04:19
Marine1holstein: i can play vlc and movie player at the same time but if i open the browser with either one of them playing i have to close them out in order to get the sound playing..04:21
holsteinOH... that makes sense then04:21
holsteinthats going to be a flash thing04:21
Marine1holstein: what to do ?04:23
holstein?04:23
holsteindont play something in the browser at the same time as you are playing something elsewhere04:24
holsteinactually, i cant get an ogg to play in the browser (chromium) while a file is playing in audacious04:24
Marine1holstein: you said it's a flash thing so is there something that can be done to modify that.04:24
holsteinso, that does *not* support the flash theory04:25
holsteinMarine1: im still looking04:25
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holsteinMarine1: let me say, im personally not motivated to learn whats going on04:28
holsteini would suggest going to #opensourcemusicians04:28
holsteini asked there a minute ago, and so far, no response04:28
holsteini think most folks are going to say, stop one of them, and play the other04:29
Marine1holstein: good enough i'll go the the main ubuntu chanel04:29
holsteinnot sure whats up with priority on browser audio04:29
holsteinMarine1: ?04:29
holsteinwhy?04:29
holsteini say, go to #opensourcemusicians04:29
holsteinno one'll know in the main ubuntu channel either04:29
Marine1holstein: let me try that04:29
holsteinknow/care04:29
Marine1holstein: one thing i noticied is that my adobe flash player keeps crashing in ff04:30
holsteinsure04:30
holsteinflash is awful04:31
Marine1holstein: it just stated the adobe flash plugi has crashed send crash report04:31
holsteinsure, but where are you sending it?04:31
holsteinto ubuntu?04:31
holsteinthey cant do anything04:31
holsteinits not there code04:31
holsteintheir*04:31
Marine1on daily motion the video just crashed not on youtube04:33
holsteinright... flash is not good04:33
Marine1holstein: i just clicked on it to send the report not sure where it would be going hopefully to adboe04:33
holsteini can make an ogg play in the browser while youtube is playing04:33
holsteinMarine1: ?04:33
holsteinit doesnt04:33
holsteinit goes to ubuntu, and they cant fix it04:34
Marine1holstein: ok04:34
holsteinadobe doesnt care, or it would work properly right now ;)04:34
holsteinanyways...04:34
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holsteini have a file playing with youtube04:34
Marine1holstein: #opensourcemusicians are you sure they  have the answers to that04:34
holsteinplay the mp3 or ogg in the browser04:34
holsteinMarine1: ?04:34
holsteinno, you just have to go ask and see04:34
holsteinthats what we do there though04:35
Marine1holstein: opensource musicians doesn't sound like a help chanel04:35
holsteinanyways, theres a work-around04:35
holsteinMarine1: ?04:35
Marine1holstein: lol04:35
Marine1holstein: ?04:35
holsteinyou dont have to join the channel,im just telling you where you'll get an answer04:35
Marine1holstein: good enough04:35
Marine1holstein: do you know the work around04:36
holsteinyeah04:36
holsteinMarine1: you play the audio file, mp3 or whatever, in the browser04:36
holsteinthats how far i have made it04:36
holsteini can play an audio file in the browser along with a youtube vid04:36
holsteini can pause them, or whatever04:36
holsteinand they both play together04:36
holsteini'll come up with something better though04:36
Marine1holstein: i'm playing a youtube video now but when i open a mp3 with vlc no sound comes out of it04:37
holsteinMarine1: right04:38
holsteinyou open the MP3 file in the browser as well04:38
Marine1holstein: i can see it playing but no sound I have to close out ff in order for it to play04:38
holsteinso that both things are being played in the browser04:38
holsteinby FF04:38
holsteinthe youtube vid is playing in FF04:38
holsteinand the mp3 is too04:38
holsteinboth04:38
Marine1holstein: how do i get an mp3 on my hd to play in the browser?04:39
holsteinMarine1: you can literally drag mp3's over into FF04:40
Marine1holstein: i jst wnet to my music folder and right clicked on a file to open in ff which it did but the sound is frozen there04:40
holsteinfile:///path/to/file.mp304:40
Marine1holstein: i have a new tab open with the song loaded but it's frozen04:41
Marine1holstein: Error running gnome-open '/path/to/file.mp3'04:41
Marine1Process returned error code 25604:41
holsteinMarine1: lol04:42
holsteinthe path to your audio file04:42
Marine1holstein: yeah i just tried to open in ff and the file will not play04:42
holsteinmaybe you should just go with plan A04:42
holsteinstop the file, play youtube04:43
holsteinstop youtube, play the file04:43
holsteini can get a file and youtube playing in chromium04:43
holsteinbut not in FF04:43
holsteinand this has literally never come up for me in years04:43
holsteinand im not sure im going to need it anytime soon ;)04:43
Marine1holstein: yes but like I said earlier i have to close out either one to get the other to play that is the main problem!!!04:44
holsteinMarine1: right04:44
holsteinyou can file a bug04:44
holsteinlet me see if theres one you can add yourself too04:45
Marine1holstein: next question04:45
Marine1holstein: where is the preferred applications menu in gnome shell04:45
Marine1holstein: to lauch a specific application04:45
holsteinMarine1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79613204:45
holsteinMarine1: im not using gnome shell04:47
holsteinhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=11842204:47
Marine1holstein:  that is a good link though let me read through that04:47
holstein^ implies that under 'system information' you shoud find that04:48
holsteinshould*04:48
Marine1holstein: got it thnaks for that one04:49
Marine1holstein:  i'm going to read that other link04:49
holsteinMarine1: im getting a response in that channel i suggested you join04:51
Marine1holstein: now your cooking with oil!!04:52
Marine1holstein: well you have been04:52
Marine1holstein: :-D04:52
holsteinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/18391704:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 183917 in pulseaudio "Sound stops working in Firefox once other applications (Pidgin, Rhythmbox) have played sound (dup-of: 198453)" [Medium,Confirmed]04:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 198453 in pulseaudio "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [Medium,Fix released]04:55
holsteinMarine1: this is the suggestion from the other channel04:58
holsteinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Firefox.2BAC8-Flash_and_PulseAudio04:58
Marine1holstein: i'm looking in to this now.. :libflashsupport04:59
Marine1holstein:  that might help the flash problem04:59
holsteinMarine1: didnt seem to help me05:08
holsteinalthough, i do think its plausible that FF is unaware of pulse as the default sound device or whatever05:08
holsteinim out of steam though, and crashing... good luck05:09
holsteini say, choose your battles... and GN05:09
Marine1holstein: thanks bud got some of the issues solved05:14
philipballewcan i read kindle bought books on Ubuntu06:45
truepurpleIn order to (re)add flash player properly, do I need to install anything called "partner repo"?10:17
bioterrorenable partner repository10:18
bioterrorand install flashplayer-installer, if I recall right10:18
truepurplewhat is partner repository, and what happens if it isn't enabled?10:20
bioterroryou cant fetch packages from it ;)10:20
bioterror!repositories10:20
ubot2The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories10:20
truepurpleThat doesn't tell me what you are talking about or what happens if it is not enabled when I install flash player10:21
bioterrornothing happens if it's not enabled, right?10:21
M0hitruepurple: If you do not enable it and download it manually fron the untrusted sites, then your maching might get attacks. Its is always advised to add the repository and the partener respositories and install from there10:22
truepurpleI installed it from the software center, but if it is not enabled, will that cause problems?10:23
M0hiIf you are istalling from the software center, then it is already enabled =]10:23
truepurpleBut that doesn't make sense with what I was told earlier10:24
truepurpleI was having trouble with my flash player, I was told to remove it, enable "partner repo" and and then do some stuff to reinstall flash player10:24
M0hiI think you are pointed to try another flash player from the parten repo. Now what you did is, just re-installation of the same flash player10:26
truepurpleIf this partner repo was necessary to install flash player in the first place, then it wouldn't make sense to install or enable it to reinstall flash player, so did "ActionParsnip" give me bad information?10:26
truepurpleum... I downloaded it from software center, and the graphics not updating problem with flash went away, perhaps because it was a newer version, though at least once it froze up for no reason10:27
truepurpleM0hi, so what do I need to do to try this "different flash player" using partner repo?10:27
M0hitruepurple: I am not sure about what is suggested to you. :[10:31
obarthelemyhi. I'm trying to set hthe variable TTYNUMBER in a script with the line10:31
obarthelemyTTYNUMBER= tty |sed -e "S:/dev/::"10:31
obarthelemybut it prints the result instead of putting in in TTYNUMBER10:31
M0hi!sed10:33
ubot2The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:33
M0hierr wait. Not that10:33
M0hiobarthelemy: I am not sure. Try ##sed10:33
truepurpleM0hi, is there a way to use this repo thing to try a different flash player then the one I downloaded from software center without touching it?10:33
coalwaterhm, ubot2 is drunk :D jk10:34
M0hiNow your flash player is working fine right?10:34
truepurpleno10:34
M0hicoalwater: :P10:34
M0hiah!10:35
truepurpleM0hi, the graphics tear problem went away, but its already frozen once from clicking a flash button within a game10:35
M0hiYou are using 32 bit flash player?10:35
truepurpleI don't know, its what was listed in software center, only one, how do I check?10:35
M0hiFirefox site has a solution I believe. I can't do much help. I am @ work10:36
truepurplemy ubuntu is 64bit though10:36
M0hicoalwater: c an you help?10:36
truepurplegah, the graphics tear problem happened again slightly10:37
truepurpleyeah its still there, just not as bad10:38
coalwaterhelp with what?10:45
coalwatersry was afk for a sec10:45
coalwatero flash tearing?10:45
coalwateri have that too :D10:45
coalwatersome games, but not all falsh10:46
coalwateryoutube works fine for example10:46
coalwateri never cared about fixing it10:46
coalwateri tried the adobe.com version and the repository versions, both have the same problem10:47
coalwaterM0hi: i think we should ask someone to fix ubot210:49
truepurpleWell this is a new problem for me, how long has it been a problem for you, coalwater?10:50
coalwateri don't know, i used to use flash 11 since it was still in adobe labs, so i dont know if 10.3 was stable or not10:50
truepurplecoalwater, I say tear, but the screen doesn't update like it should all the time, I have to scroll it off and back or go to another window10:51
truepurpleWhen was that?10:51
coalwateri know what you mean, i see it on fb games10:51
truepurpleHow long ago did you use flash 11?10:51
truepurplefb?10:51
coalwaterfacebook10:51
coalwaterlike a pop up layer goes away but it's still showing, or comes up but still not fully appearing10:52
truepurpleHow long has this been a problem for you coalwater?10:53
coalwaterdo u have nvidia?10:53
truepurpleNo radeon10:54
coalwaterfew months, like i say the problem doesn't appear  in all flash10:54
coalwateri had it since i started to play the game10:54
coalwaterhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu/10:54
coalwateri found this, might help10:54
truepurpleThat is a problem I have too, but something completely different from my flash player problems10:56
coalwaterhm let me test if that fixes it10:57
truepurpleand like I said, I use AMD radeon10:58
truepurple685010:58
coalwateri know, but the option about sync to vblank should be in there too10:58
coalwateranyway, it didn't fix it :D10:58
truepurpleI don't know about that, but looking in catalyst, I see a tear free option, lets see if it works, that won't help my flash player problems though, I am sure10:58
truepurplecoalwater, I enabled that tear free option, I don't know if it is working since the videos themselves show black now :p11:02
coalwaterhah11:02
coalwatero  wait11:02
coalwateri had that problem before11:02
coalwatertoo11:02
coalwater:D11:02
coalwaterbut not anymore11:02
coalwaterdo u use firefox ?11:02
truepurpleyes11:02
coalwateropen the addon's tab, and then go to plugins11:03
truepurplei am talking about video using totem video player from a downloaded video file though11:03
truepurplecoalwater,11:03
coalwatero11:03
coalwaterok11:03
coalwateri thought flash players11:03
coalwatercheck totem settings then i guess11:04
truepurpleSpeaking of, I can only use totem, all the other video players play without sound11:04
coalwateri use vlc11:04
truepurplePlays without sound11:04
coalwaterhm11:04
truepurpleAnother problem, the menu screen is wonky when it is in front of the video image11:04
coalwatercheck the sound settings, u might have muted the app alone11:04
truepurplewith totem, I can see those menu options if I pause the video, with the rest, not even that works11:05
truepurpleIts like the video image is being forced to the forefront, even at the cost of the videoplayers own menu options11:05
coalwaterthat's weird lol11:06
truepurpleI mean I can sort of see what my cursor is over, it flickers alot though and is very hard to read11:07
truepurpleSimilarly, if I have the video up and switch to another window, the video image forces itself through the other window11:08
truepurpleI have to pause and minimize the video window to switch over and view another window/tab properly11:08
coalwateru know, i saw that before on skype11:09
coalwatervideo just pops up every thing11:09
truepurplecoalwater, and no, sound is not muted11:09
coalwatereven if there's a different app over it11:09
truepurpleAnd it does seem to look better on like VLC :(11:10
truepurpleSo coalwater, can you help me with any of this?11:10
truepurpleCould there be a sound codex connected to totem but not to the other players?11:11
truepurplecoalwater, is there such a thing as sound codex's?11:11
truepurpleLOL, this is really weird11:13
truepurpleWith tearfree on, I can't see the image normally with the viewer, but when I switch to another tab, it pushes through like normal11:13
truepurpleI can't see the video directly, but can see it indirectly, WTH11:14
truepurplehmm, but it doesn't play right like that11:15
coalwateru could try !sound11:17
coalwater!sound11:17
ubot2If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.11:17
coalwaterthough ur problem is with a certain app only not on the whole system, so i'm not really sure about that11:18
bodhizazen'lo all15:47
IAmNotThatGuyHello Bodhi15:52
pip__Hi, does anybody know if there's likely to be a fix for the realtek LAN driver problem anytime soon/17:17
pip__?, even17:17
portable123hi al19:38
portable123anyone here?19:38
portable123???????19:39
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mscout2004__Is this where I can get back into helping with debugging ubuntu22:06
bioterrorat least learning and getting into community22:07
bodhizazenmscout2004__: this channel is more for support, but either here or -team22:09
bodhizazenthere are some on -team who can guide you , sort of depends on what you want to do22:10
NiyaI'm thinking of getting an iphone, but am worried I will have trouble performing updates and such with it inside of Ubuntu, so I wanted to see if some people have experience doing this? (If it's as simple as using iTunes in Wine or more complex)23:09
philipballewwell Niya I know itunes and wine will most likely not work23:12
NiyaYeah.23:15
NiyaOkay, thank you.23:15
philipballewNiya, but23:15
philipballewyou can still get working in linux i would imagine23:16
NiyaIt's more that I'm looking for someone who has and uses it with Ubuntu, because my biggest concern is how to apply updates.23:17
NiyaI found guides for how to sync music, photos, etc...  But they don't explain the upgrade process.23:17

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