[04:14] <Marine1> need assistance I can't have more than 1 application playing music or the other one whether it's the internet or desktop application.
[04:15] <Marine1> if vlc is playing then i don't hear any sound coming from youtube
[04:15] <holstein> hmm
[04:15] <Marine1> or vica versa
[04:15] <holstein> why would you want to do that anyway..
[04:15]  * holstein testing...
[04:15] <Marine1> somwtimes switching back and forth
[04:15] <Marine1> holstein: but that shoudn't matter
[04:16] <Marine1> holstein: i should be able to play both at the same time
[04:16] <Marine1> holstein: any suggestion?
[04:16] <holstein> well, i cant play both
[04:16] <holstein> i would suggest not playing both at the same time
[04:17] <holstein> i cant imagine why you would want to
[04:17] <holstein> but, you should be able to
[04:17] <holstein> lets try something other than VLC
[04:17] <Marine1> holstein: im have even movie player same results
[04:18] <holstein> Marine1: yeah, i understand
[04:18] <Marine1> holstein: o.k.?
[04:18] <holstein> give me a mintue
[04:18] <holstein> and ill make 2 things play
[04:18] <holstein> and tell you how i did it
[04:18] <Marine1> holstein: i din't have this problem in 10.10
[04:19] <holstein> well, im in 10.04
[04:19] <Marine1> holstein: i'm 11.10
[04:19] <holstein> i dont know
[04:19] <holstein> i dont do that
[04:19] <holstein> i just play files
[04:19] <holstein> im more of a content creator though
[04:19] <Marine1> holstein: :>)
[04:19] <holstein> its never come up for me...
[04:19] <holstein> anyways... i'll get it working
[04:21] <Marine1> holstein: i can play vlc and movie player at the same time but if i open the browser with either one of them playing i have to close them out in order to get the sound playing..
[04:21] <holstein> OH... that makes sense then
[04:21] <holstein> thats going to be a flash thing
[04:23] <Marine1> holstein: what to do ?
[04:23] <holstein> ?
[04:24] <holstein> dont play something in the browser at the same time as you are playing something elsewhere
[04:24] <holstein> actually, i cant get an ogg to play in the browser (chromium) while a file is playing in audacious
[04:24] <Marine1> holstein: you said it's a flash thing so is there something that can be done to modify that.
[04:25] <holstein> so, that does *not* support the flash theory
[04:25] <holstein> Marine1: im still looking
[04:28] <holstein> Marine1: let me say, im personally not motivated to learn whats going on
[04:28] <holstein> i would suggest going to #opensourcemusicians
[04:28] <holstein> i asked there a minute ago, and so far, no response
[04:29] <holstein> i think most folks are going to say, stop one of them, and play the other
[04:29] <Marine1> holstein: good enough i'll go the the main ubuntu chanel
[04:29] <holstein> not sure whats up with priority on browser audio
[04:29] <holstein> Marine1: ?
[04:29] <holstein> why?
[04:29] <holstein> i say, go to #opensourcemusicians
[04:29] <holstein> no one'll know in the main ubuntu channel either
[04:29] <Marine1> holstein: let me try that
[04:29] <holstein> know/care
[04:30] <Marine1> holstein: one thing i noticied is that my adobe flash player keeps crashing in ff
[04:30] <holstein> sure
[04:31] <holstein> flash is awful
[04:31] <Marine1> holstein: it just stated the adobe flash plugi has crashed send crash report
[04:31] <holstein> sure, but where are you sending it?
[04:31] <holstein> to ubuntu?
[04:31] <holstein> they cant do anything
[04:31] <holstein> its not there code
[04:31] <holstein> their*
[04:33] <Marine1> on daily motion the video just crashed not on youtube
[04:33] <holstein> right... flash is not good
[04:33] <Marine1> holstein: i just clicked on it to send the report not sure where it would be going hopefully to adboe
[04:33] <holstein> i can make an ogg play in the browser while youtube is playing
[04:33] <holstein> Marine1: ?
[04:33] <holstein> it doesnt
[04:34] <holstein> it goes to ubuntu, and they cant fix it
[04:34] <Marine1> holstein: ok
[04:34] <holstein> adobe doesnt care, or it would work properly right now ;)
[04:34] <holstein> anyways...
[04:34] <holstein> i have a file playing with youtube
[04:34] <Marine1> holstein: #opensourcemusicians are you sure they  have the answers to that
[04:34] <holstein> play the mp3 or ogg in the browser
[04:34] <holstein> Marine1: ?
[04:34] <holstein> no, you just have to go ask and see
[04:35] <holstein> thats what we do there though
[04:35] <Marine1> holstein: opensource musicians doesn't sound like a help chanel
[04:35] <holstein> anyways, theres a work-around
[04:35] <holstein> Marine1: ?
[04:35] <Marine1> holstein: lol
[04:35] <Marine1> holstein: ?
[04:35] <holstein> you dont have to join the channel,im just telling you where you'll get an answer
[04:35] <Marine1> holstein: good enough
[04:36] <Marine1> holstein: do you know the work around
[04:36] <holstein> yeah
[04:36] <holstein> Marine1: you play the audio file, mp3 or whatever, in the browser
[04:36] <holstein> thats how far i have made it
[04:36] <holstein> i can play an audio file in the browser along with a youtube vid
[04:36] <holstein> i can pause them, or whatever
[04:36] <holstein> and they both play together
[04:36] <holstein> i'll come up with something better though
[04:37] <Marine1> holstein: i'm playing a youtube video now but when i open a mp3 with vlc no sound comes out of it
[04:38] <holstein> Marine1: right
[04:38] <holstein> you open the MP3 file in the browser as well
[04:38] <Marine1> holstein: i can see it playing but no sound I have to close out ff in order for it to play
[04:38] <holstein> so that both things are being played in the browser
[04:38] <holstein> by FF
[04:38] <holstein> the youtube vid is playing in FF
[04:38] <holstein> and the mp3 is too
[04:38] <holstein> both
[04:39] <Marine1> holstein: how do i get an mp3 on my hd to play in the browser?
[04:40] <holstein> Marine1: you can literally drag mp3's over into FF
[04:40] <Marine1> holstein: i jst wnet to my music folder and right clicked on a file to open in ff which it did but the sound is frozen there
[04:40] <holstein> file:///path/to/file.mp3
[04:41] <Marine1> holstein: i have a new tab open with the song loaded but it's frozen
[04:41] <Marine1> holstein: Error running gnome-open '/path/to/file.mp3'
[04:41] <Marine1> Process returned error code 256
[04:42] <holstein> Marine1: lol
[04:42] <holstein> the path to your audio file
[04:42] <Marine1> holstein: yeah i just tried to open in ff and the file will not play
[04:42] <holstein> maybe you should just go with plan A
[04:43] <holstein> stop the file, play youtube
[04:43] <holstein> stop youtube, play the file
[04:43] <holstein> i can get a file and youtube playing in chromium
[04:43] <holstein> but not in FF
[04:43] <holstein> and this has literally never come up for me in years
[04:43] <holstein> and im not sure im going to need it anytime soon ;)
[04:44] <Marine1> holstein: yes but like I said earlier i have to close out either one to get the other to play that is the main problem!!!
[04:44] <holstein> Marine1: right
[04:44] <holstein> you can file a bug
[04:45] <holstein> let me see if theres one you can add yourself too
[04:45] <Marine1> holstein: next question
[04:45] <Marine1> holstein: where is the preferred applications menu in gnome shell
[04:45] <Marine1> holstein: to lauch a specific application
[04:45] <holstein> Marine1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=796132
[04:47] <holstein> Marine1: im not using gnome shell
[04:47] <holstein> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118422
[04:47] <Marine1> holstein:  that is a good link though let me read through that
[04:48] <holstein> ^ implies that under 'system information' you shoud find that
[04:48] <holstein> should*
[04:49] <Marine1> holstein: got it thnaks for that one
[04:49] <Marine1> holstein:  i'm going to read that other link
[04:51] <holstein> Marine1: im getting a response in that channel i suggested you join
[04:52] <Marine1> holstein: now your cooking with oil!!
[04:52] <Marine1> holstein: well you have been
[04:52] <Marine1> holstein: :-D
[04:55] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/183917
[04:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 183917 in pulseaudio "Sound stops working in Firefox once other applications (Pidgin, Rhythmbox) have played sound (dup-of: 198453)" [Medium,Confirmed]
[04:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 198453 in pulseaudio "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [Medium,Fix released]
[04:58] <holstein> Marine1: this is the suggestion from the other channel
[04:58] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Firefox.2BAC8-Flash_and_PulseAudio
[04:59] <Marine1> holstein: i'm looking in to this now.. :libflashsupport
[04:59] <Marine1> holstein:  that might help the flash problem
[05:08] <holstein> Marine1: didnt seem to help me
[05:08] <holstein> although, i do think its plausible that FF is unaware of pulse as the default sound device or whatever
[05:09] <holstein> im out of steam though, and crashing... good luck
[05:09] <holstein> i say, choose your battles... and GN
[05:14] <Marine1> holstein: thanks bud got some of the issues solved
[06:45] <philipballew> can i read kindle bought books on Ubuntu
[10:17] <truepurple> In order to (re)add flash player properly, do I need to install anything called "partner repo"?
[10:18] <bioterror> enable partner repository
[10:18] <bioterror> and install flashplayer-installer, if I recall right
[10:20] <truepurple> what is partner repository, and what happens if it isn't enabled?
[10:20] <bioterror> you cant fetch packages from it ;)
[10:20] <bioterror> !repositories
[10:20] <ubot2> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[10:21] <truepurple> That doesn't tell me what you are talking about or what happens if it is not enabled when I install flash player
[10:21] <bioterror> nothing happens if it's not enabled, right?
[10:22] <M0hi> truepurple: If you do not enable it and download it manually fron the untrusted sites, then your maching might get attacks. Its is always advised to add the repository and the partener respositories and install from there
[10:23] <truepurple> I installed it from the software center, but if it is not enabled, will that cause problems?
[10:23] <M0hi> If you are istalling from the software center, then it is already enabled =]
[10:24] <truepurple> But that doesn't make sense with what I was told earlier
[10:24] <truepurple> I was having trouble with my flash player, I was told to remove it, enable "partner repo" and and then do some stuff to reinstall flash player
[10:26] <M0hi> I think you are pointed to try another flash player from the parten repo. Now what you did is, just re-installation of the same flash player
[10:26] <truepurple> If this partner repo was necessary to install flash player in the first place, then it wouldn't make sense to install or enable it to reinstall flash player, so did "ActionParsnip" give me bad information?
[10:27] <truepurple> um... I downloaded it from software center, and the graphics not updating problem with flash went away, perhaps because it was a newer version, though at least once it froze up for no reason
[10:27] <truepurple> M0hi, so what do I need to do to try this "different flash player" using partner repo?
[10:31] <M0hi> truepurple: I am not sure about what is suggested to you. :[
[10:31] <obarthelemy> hi. I'm trying to set hthe variable TTYNUMBER in a script with the line
[10:31] <obarthelemy> TTYNUMBER= tty |sed -e "S:/dev/::"
[10:31] <obarthelemy> but it prints the result instead of putting in in TTYNUMBER
[10:33] <M0hi> !sed
[10:33] <ubot2> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:33] <M0hi> err wait. Not that
[10:33] <M0hi> obarthelemy: I am not sure. Try ##sed
[10:33] <truepurple> M0hi, is there a way to use this repo thing to try a different flash player then the one I downloaded from software center without touching it?
[10:34] <coalwater> hm, ubot2 is drunk :D jk
[10:34] <M0hi> Now your flash player is working fine right?
[10:34] <truepurple> no
[10:34] <M0hi> coalwater: :P
[10:35] <M0hi> ah!
[10:35] <truepurple> M0hi, the graphics tear problem went away, but its already frozen once from clicking a flash button within a game
[10:35] <M0hi> You are using 32 bit flash player?
[10:35] <truepurple> I don't know, its what was listed in software center, only one, how do I check?
[10:36] <M0hi> Firefox site has a solution I believe. I can't do much help. I am @ work
[10:36] <truepurple> my ubuntu is 64bit though
[10:36] <M0hi> coalwater: c an you help?
[10:37] <truepurple> gah, the graphics tear problem happened again slightly
[10:38] <truepurple> yeah its still there, just not as bad
[10:45] <coalwater> help with what?
[10:45] <coalwater> sry was afk for a sec
[10:45] <coalwater> o flash tearing?
[10:45] <coalwater> i have that too :D
[10:46] <coalwater> some games, but not all falsh
[10:46] <coalwater> youtube works fine for example
[10:46] <coalwater> i never cared about fixing it
[10:47] <coalwater> i tried the adobe.com version and the repository versions, both have the same problem
[10:49] <coalwater> M0hi: i think we should ask someone to fix ubot2
[10:50] <truepurple> Well this is a new problem for me, how long has it been a problem for you, coalwater?
[10:50] <coalwater> i don't know, i used to use flash 11 since it was still in adobe labs, so i dont know if 10.3 was stable or not
[10:51] <truepurple> coalwater, I say tear, but the screen doesn't update like it should all the time, I have to scroll it off and back or go to another window
[10:51] <truepurple> When was that?
[10:51] <coalwater> i know what you mean, i see it on fb games
[10:51] <truepurple> How long ago did you use flash 11?
[10:51] <truepurple> fb?
[10:51] <coalwater> facebook
[10:52] <coalwater> like a pop up layer goes away but it's still showing, or comes up but still not fully appearing
[10:53] <truepurple> How long has this been a problem for you coalwater?
[10:53] <coalwater> do u have nvidia?
[10:54] <truepurple> No radeon
[10:54] <coalwater> few months, like i say the problem doesn't appear  in all flash
[10:54] <coalwater> i had it since i started to play the game
[10:54] <coalwater> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu/
[10:54] <coalwater> i found this, might help
[10:56] <truepurple> That is a problem I have too, but something completely different from my flash player problems
[10:57] <coalwater> hm let me test if that fixes it
[10:58] <truepurple> and like I said, I use AMD radeon
[10:58] <truepurple> 6850
[10:58] <coalwater> i know, but the option about sync to vblank should be in there too
[10:58] <coalwater> anyway, it didn't fix it :D
[10:58] <truepurple> I don't know about that, but looking in catalyst, I see a tear free option, lets see if it works, that won't help my flash player problems though, I am sure
[11:02] <truepurple> coalwater, I enabled that tear free option, I don't know if it is working since the videos themselves show black now :p
[11:02] <coalwater> hah
[11:02] <coalwater> o  wait
[11:02] <coalwater> i had that problem before
[11:02] <coalwater> too
[11:02] <coalwater> :D
[11:02] <coalwater> but not anymore
[11:02] <coalwater> do u use firefox ?
[11:02] <truepurple> yes
[11:03] <coalwater> open the addon's tab, and then go to plugins
[11:03] <truepurple> i am talking about video using totem video player from a downloaded video file though
[11:03] <truepurple> coalwater,
[11:03] <coalwater> o
[11:03] <coalwater> ok
[11:03] <coalwater> i thought flash players
[11:04] <coalwater> check totem settings then i guess
[11:04] <truepurple> Speaking of, I can only use totem, all the other video players play without sound
[11:04] <coalwater> i use vlc
[11:04] <truepurple> Plays without sound
[11:04] <coalwater> hm
[11:04] <truepurple> Another problem, the menu screen is wonky when it is in front of the video image
[11:04] <coalwater> check the sound settings, u might have muted the app alone
[11:05] <truepurple> with totem, I can see those menu options if I pause the video, with the rest, not even that works
[11:05] <truepurple> Its like the video image is being forced to the forefront, even at the cost of the videoplayers own menu options
[11:06] <coalwater> that's weird lol
[11:07] <truepurple> I mean I can sort of see what my cursor is over, it flickers alot though and is very hard to read
[11:08] <truepurple> Similarly, if I have the video up and switch to another window, the video image forces itself through the other window
[11:08] <truepurple> I have to pause and minimize the video window to switch over and view another window/tab properly
[11:09] <coalwater> u know, i saw that before on skype
[11:09] <coalwater> video just pops up every thing
[11:09] <truepurple> coalwater, and no, sound is not muted
[11:09] <coalwater> even if there's a different app over it
[11:10] <truepurple> And it does seem to look better on like VLC :(
[11:10] <truepurple> So coalwater, can you help me with any of this?
[11:11] <truepurple> Could there be a sound codex connected to totem but not to the other players?
[11:11] <truepurple> coalwater, is there such a thing as sound codex's?
[11:13] <truepurple> LOL, this is really weird
[11:13] <truepurple> With tearfree on, I can't see the image normally with the viewer, but when I switch to another tab, it pushes through like normal
[11:14] <truepurple> I can't see the video directly, but can see it indirectly, WTH
[11:15] <truepurple> hmm, but it doesn't play right like that
[11:17] <coalwater> u could try !sound
[11:17] <coalwater> !sound
[11:17] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[11:18] <coalwater> though ur problem is with a certain app only not on the whole system, so i'm not really sure about that
[15:47] <bodhizazen> 'lo all
[15:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hello Bodhi
[17:17] <pip__> Hi, does anybody know if there's likely to be a fix for the realtek LAN driver problem anytime soon/
[17:17] <pip__> ?, even
[19:38] <portable123> hi al
[19:38] <portable123> anyone here?
[19:39] <portable123> ???????
[22:06] <mscout2004__> Is this where I can get back into helping with debugging ubuntu
[22:07] <bioterror> at least learning and getting into community
[22:09] <bodhizazen> mscout2004__: this channel is more for support, but either here or -team
[22:10] <bodhizazen> there are some on -team who can guide you , sort of depends on what you want to do
[23:09] <Niya> I'm thinking of getting an iphone, but am worried I will have trouble performing updates and such with it inside of Ubuntu, so I wanted to see if some people have experience doing this? (If it's as simple as using iTunes in Wine or more complex)
[23:12] <philipballew> well Niya I know itunes and wine will most likely not work
[23:15] <Niya> Yeah.
[23:15] <Niya> Okay, thank you.
[23:15] <philipballew> Niya, but
[23:16] <philipballew> you can still get working in linux i would imagine
[23:17] <Niya> It's more that I'm looking for someone who has and uses it with Ubuntu, because my biggest concern is how to apply updates.
[23:17] <Niya> I found guides for how to sync music, photos, etc...  But they don't explain the upgrade process.