=== noy_ is now known as noy === noy_ is now known as noy === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [09:32] Dholbach, hi [09:32] hey sabdfl [09:33] Cool, just checking comm from kiwi land [09:33] Thanks [09:33] sabdfl, still 1h30m to go, right? :) [09:33] Catch you in 90 [09:33] awesome :) [09:33] We going to get all hands? [09:34] I'm aiming for "most hands" - I'll round up as many as I can, but with some living in SF, I doubt we get all [09:35] Ok, till then [09:36] see you :) [10:48] o/ [10:49] o// [10:50] mmhmm [10:59] Good....morning? [10:59] Hello all [11:00] good afternoon sabdfl [11:00] Who do we have from the CC? [11:00] * YokoZar waves [11:00] o/ [11:01] morning all [11:01] o/ [11:01] o/ [11:01] Beuno, London? [11:01] it looks like we have beuno (new CC), YokoZar (new CC), popey (old CC), czajkowski (new CC) and Gwaihir (maybe new CC), technoviking (old CC) [11:01] sabdfl, not this week, back home now. Was adjusting to your NZ TZ :) [11:01] Heh [11:01] Thanks Daniel [11:01] aloha [11:02] hello all! [11:02] Daniel, can you take us through any agenda items, then I'll lead a general welcome and discussion [11:02] o/ [11:02] oh, and akgraner :) [11:03] our agenda wiki page is empty, but I think it's worth talking about handover and making sure we announce the final new CC [11:03] Ok. Any word from emmet? [11:03] but that's something we can easily do after the welcome and discussion [11:04] no, unfortunately not - I texted him, mailed him, PMed him and sent a memo through MemoServ :-( [11:04] persia is in the channel, at least [11:04] Persia, around? [11:04] and idle over a day [11:04] so active in some way at least [11:05] czajkowski, or his irc proxy/relay merely reconnected [11:05] dholbach: aye perhaps [11:06] Regardless, we've not heard, we'll move on [11:07] whatever the decision is we take here, I'll try harder to hear back from him and if it's just to make sure that he's OK [11:07] Gwaihir, I understand you are willing to serve on this term of the cc, welcome [11:07] sabdfl, yes, I'll be willing to step in, as confirmed to dholbach [11:08] and thank you for the welcome! [11:08] Daniel, you and I should follow up with Persia as you say, but the role is bigger than the man, and we have clear guidance on the need to participate or step down [11:08] * dholbach nods [11:09] I'll update LP on the morrow [11:09] and I'll add Milo to the CC list [11:09] Gwaihir: welcome :) [11:09] Right, we have good representation of prior and new CC [11:09] * Gwaihir thanks czajkowski [11:10] I want to offer an open mike to departing cc members [11:10] also I'll take an action to summarise the "open items" of the old CC and try to provide sufficient background on all of them [11:10] Good idea dholbach, let's do that by email [11:10] yep [11:10] Big picture, old cc, what do you want to see from the new team? [11:10] i think i used up my open mike at the last meeting ;) [11:11] Yeah, I read all about it ;) [11:11] I think we can put that on te agenda tonight [11:12] yup, I'm happy with the progress jono etc are making there [11:12] be good for the new cc to keep tabs on it though. [11:12] I thought about it and came to the conclusion I blogged [11:13] ~persia, I don't know how long he's been mia but personally I wouldn't feel compelled to replace him until UDS [11:13] W haven't reduced the places community participates, but we have added scope for product definition [11:13] Yokozar, it's done [11:13] aye [11:13] I thought Martin Owens take was interesting [11:14] Sine he was one of those most taken aback when we started to step up on design [11:15] sabdfl, this was his comment on your blog post? [11:15] Martin and I have discussed it in the past [11:15] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/805#comment-378929 [11:16] Yes. As I read it, he was saying 'I was upset when this started, but it's actually headed in a good direction, let's see where it goes' [11:16] There are a few hard truths that I think floss folk need to accept [11:16] The first is that corporate teams can do heavy lifting that cannot be done by consensus or consortia [11:17] nods [11:17] Mob in and meego and limo are samples of failures on the consortium front - as will tine [11:17] Tizen [11:18] Red hat is playing this role in Gnome, regardless of the populist story of community design [11:18] The second is that it's pointless to aim for total transparency [11:19] Any company has to figure out what it an commit to on it's own time and dime [11:19] Martin hinted at improvement, but I think the cynicism he's referring to is still very much out there. [11:19] Red hat, intel, canonical, Duse [11:19] sabdfl: I think we can improve our communications about what has been disucssed and come to the conclusions of [11:19] So I don't think the majority of the people mind that Canonical does the heavy lifting, I think that people just want to know with certainty how and where they fit into the bigger picture [11:20] having been talking to a lot of people about this issue, I think there's a subtelty to the design issue that hasn't quite been expressed, the direction we're moving in is no longer heavily focused on power users, which our community is mostly composed of, making them feel Ubuntu is not for them anymore. I think there's a gap there we need to figure out how to fill. [11:20] I don't really care about the cynical view, it's poorly informed and cannot actually turn into a viable force [11:20] and where they can be most beneficial [11:20] I'm not sure I agree [11:21] Power users are adopting MacOS in droves [11:21] There's a pretty big gulf of difference between total transparency and the opacity of Mac [11:21] Exactly [11:21] Tere are vastly more opportunities to participate in ubuntu than MacOS [11:22] right, sorry, I didn't mean related to transparency in decision making [11:22] indeed which is great to see and more oportunities for people to express themselves [11:22] From an actual participation point of view, I think we are incredibly accessible [11:22] agree [11:22] there are many ways for people to intereact and join in if they chose to do so. [11:22] I'm not interested in the griping of a person who wants to be able to put the launcher St the top and add xeyes to it [11:23] Especially if they won't contribute a patch, with tests, and commit to maintain it [11:23] Well put [11:23] There are plenty of places for that in the broader *bunt universe [11:24] right, and maybe that's something to explore as a way to channel some of these folks [11:24] I agree that things have improved, especially in the unity world where there's loads of people contributing nowadays, but I see the concerns brought forward in the last meeting as something a bit broader - we have a lot of people who do fantastic work and who are perceived as the leaders in their domain - this is great, but at the same time can be intimidating and leaving contributors in a spot where they don't exactly know how and what t [11:24] o contribute because a possible perception by bold plans and actions could be the question "where do I fit in there?" [11:24] yup, if people have issues and do want to change things, I'd rather see them giving a soltion rather than pointing out flaws, eveyrone can do that If you want to be part of the community, provide a solution [11:25] What about messes we create? [11:25] In that light, at UDS I'll outline a lot more of the big picture we've been working towards [11:25] In other words, what Ubuntu could be by 14.04 [11:25] It's been pointed out to me on more than one occasion that we're chasing 'users' and losing 'contributors'. [11:25] Now, it can only be that with broad engagement with a passionate community [11:26] Of contributors ;) [11:26] Agreed. [11:26] I agree with dholbach, even in our community we feel that people are willing to contribute, a lot, but they are a little bit lost where to start and on how to start [11:26] I think it all fits together - 1) acknowledge the flaw as a flaw 2) if determined it is a flaw plan to fix the flaw 3) implement said plan 4) measure the success...so pointing out the flaw is the first step [11:26] As Daniel said, we've established a good pattern of contribution to unity [11:27] That's crucial [11:27] yup, I think the unity developers get an unfair amount of flack for unity and do a great job [11:27] Pretty cool that we have both contributions to the core, and apps integrating [11:28] So how do we put the boot into the griping? [11:28] I think there are two kinds of griping [11:28] There's the classic kind that you mentioned earlier [11:28] I'm sick of it, it's very demotivating [11:28] sabdfl: +1 [11:28] And it's basically uninformed [11:28] We tried to help gnome and got the finger, now we are going to find our own way [11:29] so one of the challenges is how do we take something centrally designed, not necessarily 100% in the open, and help everyone feel like they're part of it [11:29] And in that regard, we are leading, others are following, and it's easy to participate [11:29] I worry most about regressions [11:30] Regressions would be a great focus for contribution [11:30] I think griping there has a legitimacy to it, since in that case the solution the griper proposes can be for us to simply not have done whatever we did that broke it [11:30] Because they are easiest to detect and fix on a crowd sourced basic [11:30] If people have skin in the game they are less likely to grip, whine, moan etc - so let's make sure we communicate all the ways there are to contribute and where to go to get started and put some skin in the game, mentor new leaders to step up, train new people to do the roles that other people have held for years etc [11:30] For simple bugs like hardware and stuff, yeah. Those are mere quality regressions. [11:31] skin? [11:31] But sometimes this bold new design of ours causes a regression in experience in some case that used to work well, and we don't clean up our own mess. [11:31] I wish folk realised how much canonical spends on doing bugs that after hardware which is not certified [11:31] czajkowski, skin=it means they have a stake in the outcome [11:31] k [11:32] We could of course reduce the team, and just focus on hardware that we're paid to make work, leaving the community to fix hardware that the community cares about [11:32] oh man I sympathize totally, hardware is a complete beast. But at least the solution is straightforward in most cases, and not particularly controversial [11:32] sabdfl, so how can we as a team work on making sure we have a clear picture so we can effectively communicate that to the community [11:33] so we aren't misinformed first and foremost [11:33] hi everybody [11:33] Akgraner, I think the good news is, we've swallowed all the bitter pills already [11:33] :-) [11:34] Perhaps an explicit example of the kind of thing I'm talking about might help here [11:34] In the move to Unity, and U1, that's all the hard stuff I can think of [11:35] Yup [11:35] indeed [11:35] Now, we need to figure out two things [11:36] First how we build a community that is behind those choices, and thick skinned to those who want something else, because at the end of the day we cannot be all things to all people [11:36] And second, how we make those things *great* [11:37] There are still things out there (and users that relied on them) that were regressed by some of the tradeoffs Unity made, for instance. And we haven't fixed all those "regressions". In some cases we've probably not even acknowledged them. You'd need thick skin indeed to be able to deal with the kind of resentment that might breed. [11:37] yeah, I think there's some middle ground here [11:37] Regressions that don't involve splitting attention can be fixed, and patches welcome [11:38] moving forward I think it's important to deal with gripes about quality, because they might have actual fact to them and then celebrate our successes and create an environment that contributors want to be part of (team atmosphere, ease of getting started, knowing what to do, etc.) - whoever doesn't like the decisions has alternatives [11:38] For example, if the move to compiz broke a shortcut which is still useful, let's take a patch [11:38] If the regression is that one cannot add a gnome applet to the panel, tou [11:38] Gh [11:39] REgression happens, patches welcome, unless it affects key ares such as a11y and making it totally unusable [11:40] then those need to be fixed [11:40] We are the only commercial grade platform that anybody can participate in shaping as an actual final product [11:40] sabdfl: Well put. Perhaps the diffculty out there is that some people are expecting Canonical to fix every kind of regression, when that's not quite feasible. So instead Canonical focuses on its own priorities, and the lack of a fix gets interpretted badly [11:41] Some sector of the floss community finds that exciting, that's our audience [11:41] YokoZar: +1 [11:41] What we do is not a prototype or a concept or a community edition or a developer-only offering [11:42] what I think needs a bit more definition is the use case for Ubuntu, home or office. At the moment it is kind of both. This also defines the community. [11:43] Yokozar, daniel can speak eloquently to the ease with which fixes can land; if issues are really widely relevant, the communityis completely empowered to fix em [11:44] I'm not sure we've gotten any closer to figuring out how to improve the current situation, though [11:44] sabdfl: Yeah. I wonder if there may be an expectation problem though...I personally, for instance, am much more likely to take up a task when I know no one else is going to do it unless I do. So when I have false expectations that something will be taken care of by someone else then things stay broken. [11:44] Well, being clear about mutual interests and commitments is a start [11:45] Alanbell, I think you're right, and we can nail that at UDS [11:46] I think it's a good discussion to have. First thing that comes to my mind is that, eg, Mono has a nice "Stuff we're not working on but would totally accept community contributions for" wiki page that's really easy to find. [11:46] As a start, we're going to split out the corporate and consumer use cases [11:46] that s agood start [11:46] Universe/Main is a similar thing we do well [11:46] I'd like Canonical to do a corporate desktop remix, where we focus on corporate needs like thin clients and acrobat [11:47] With Ubuntu itself focused on the consumer and home user [11:47] That would be a good start [11:47] Would that involve Canonical products like Landscape? [11:48] Yokozar, we could tag unity bugs to get the same effect [11:48] +1 [11:48] YokoZar, I think you're mentioning an interesting problem - maybe less in the world of bugs and code, where you can easily see to whom a bug is assigned - but in the world or planning and organisation I've experienced expectations that led to nothing happening (ie: "I thought Jono and his team would deal with this") - but maybe that's a separate discussion to have, probably at the leadership mini sprint at UDS [11:48] Yokozar, more streamlining of ubuntu, sans gwibber and games, adding things like remote desktop clients and adobe bits [11:49] that does make a lot of sense really [11:50] Ok [11:51] Who's coming to UDS? [11:51] o/ [11:51] o/ [11:51] o/ [11:51] sabdfl: that would be great, and you can have a community of consumer app developers, a corporate support and integration ecosystem (including Canonical), and end user customers of the OEM channel [11:51] o/ [11:52] sorry, I just had to catch up, but I would like to point out that sometimes there are regressions where the users being affected can't do the fixing (this is currently an issue with an accessility bug that means that there's no working screen magnifier for all of either version of Unity) [11:52] not me ☹ [11:52] pleia2: is also [11:52] lyz will be there too [11:52] noe me :( [11:52] sabdfl: Yeah, I think some sort of mechanism in Unity in particular would be useful here (well, any Main app really, especially ones where Canonical is upstream), since there the default assumption probably isn't "community needs to take care of this" [11:52] *not [11:52] My turn on the bull, Daniel has the floor ;) [11:52] I thinkn 7/8 of the CC will be there [11:52] though for the corporate desktop I would focus on LDAP and configuration management (like ensemble) rather than thin clients [11:52] I will not [11:53] technoviking: morning [11:53] I haven't done so yet, but I'd like to thank everybody for their hard work on the CC. Big big hugs! :) [11:53] dholbach: +1 [11:53] czajkowski: morning [11:53] dholbach, +1 [11:53] dholbach, +1 [11:53] * technoviking hugs dholbach [11:54] I'll try to get the summary of open CC items out tomorrow, so I hope that'll spark some interesting conversations, and hopefully let us find solutions to all of them. :-) [11:54] thanks dholbach [11:54] excellent plan thanks dholbach [11:54] are there any questions from new CC members? [11:54] nope I think this has been a productive 1st meeting [11:55] Agreed, welcome aboard, and see most of you in Orlando! [11:55] that's all I can think of for now [11:55] not at this time....interesting 1st meeting though [11:55] sabdfl, thank you! [11:55] not for me now too, I think I already have a big picture of the tasks ahead [11:55] Thank you folks [11:55] Adios e gracias [11:55] it looks like our next CC meeting will be during UDS [11:56] o;/ [11:56] dholbach: postpone it, hold a room? [11:56] so let's try to figure out a way of how we can do this, or maybe move it - we can do that via email I think and update the wiki page accordingly [11:56] iirc it's at a reasonable hour florida time [11:56] dholbach, what time will be the meeting in Orlando timezone? [11:57] 21:00 UTC is what ... 18:00 Florida time? [11:57] if that's the case, it should be right after sessions, which should be alright [11:58] let's figure this out via email :) [11:58] man I wish I could've woken up 40 minutes earlier :) [11:58] I'm getting hungry :) [11:58] * beuno will miss this UDS [11:58] * dholbach hugs you all [11:58] thanks everybody, you all rock! [11:58] thank you all for this first meeting! [11:58] cheers [11:59] * beuno waves === fader_` is now known as fader_ [15:00] alrighty! [15:00] time for the Canonical community team meeting [15:01] * jono tries to figure out the bot [15:01] hash startmeeting [15:01] #startmeeting [15:01] Meeting started Tue Oct 18 15:01:14 2011 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [15:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:01] aha! [15:01] hah [15:01] ok, so this is the first Canonical community team meeting on IRC [15:02] the goal here is to provide a more transparent view of what the team is doing [15:02] in each meeting we usually kick off with a set of roundtables where every discusses what they have been doing over the last week [15:02] obviously confidential topics will not be mentioned, but 99% of topics are open anyway [15:02] so, let's kick off [15:02] dholbach, want to go first? [15:03] he's giving a class [15:03] jono, giving an UOW session right now - dpm has my notes :) [15:03] hehe [15:03] ok [15:03] dpm? [15:03] slacker, even on the first one [15:03] lol [15:03] jono I'm here! [15:03] lol [15:03] dpm, can you post dholbach's notes? [15:03] sure [15:04] So here are dholbach's notes: [15:04] ∘ CC election + hand-over to new CC [15:04] ∘ dev survey [15:04] ∘ uds sponsorship - almost done [15:04] ∘ email - down to 10 in my inbox! [15:04] ∘ discussion on ubuntu-devel about NEW packages [15:05] ∘ updated 12.04 plans [15:05] ∘ stitched together pic of all uploaders (with LP profile pic) to oneiric for weekly dev update: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/oneiric.jpg [15:05] ∘ set up precise vm [15:05] the uploaders pic was awesome [15:05] * dpm +1's [15:05] ∘ set up patch pilot schedule [15:06] And that was Daniel's most relevant activities for the week [15:06] super time efficient! [15:06] seriously :-) [15:06] ok, dpm want to go next? [15:06] jono, sure [15:07] So my week was divided in translations and mostly app developer stuff: [15:07] Translations [15:07] ------------ [15:07] * Ensured translation stats are ready for release (they're now updated automatically every day at http://is.gd/aTv7eu ) [15:07] * Sent skaet the release notes for translations to go into the general release notes [15:07] * Filed a bunch of translations bugs, mostly software-center-related. Some were fixed pre-release, some might have to be SRU'd [15:08] * Some discussions on the mailing list. Highlight: Oneiric post-release language pack updates schedule [15:08] App devel [15:08] --------- [15:08] * Went through some of the bugs in the ubuntuappdeveloperportal project in Launchpad [15:08] * Fixed the simple-player tutorial on developer.ubuntu.com (there were some out-of-date parts) [15:08] * Started regular calls with jpugh to ensure both the community and the business sides work together on promoting app development [15:08] * Went through app-development-related questions on askubuntu and tagged them as 'application-development'. We've now got more than 100! [15:09] * Some discussions on integrating the ARB process into MyApps [15:09] Other - community [15:09] ----------------- [15:09] * Had a call with kim0 to discuss 12.04 strategy [15:09] * Worked with johnoxton from the web design team on a revamp of the ubuntu.com/community page [15:09] * Made a list of the active community teams and their resources [15:09] Other [15:09] ----- [15:09] * Bank holiday last Wednesday [15:10] And that was my week [15:10] thanks dpm, also thanks for the u.c/community discussion [15:10] did John reach out to you regarding reqs? [15:10] I met with him in London [15:10] jono, no worries - yeah, we've been having some calls and working together on this [15:10] given that they are tight on time, I think his plans look great for outlining five or so key roles [15:11] awesome [15:11] dpm spins his d.u.c magic [15:11] :-) [15:11] thanks dpm [15:11] :) [15:11] kim0 next? [15:11] Sure [15:11] I don't have it pre-written .. so typing fasst .. [15:12] - was off half last week .. so did some general catchup [15:12] I am lucky I get to go last! [15:12] no worries kim0 [15:12] - Finished off the strategic plan [15:12] jcastro, see what I did for you there? [15:12] ;-) [15:12] * jono hugs jcastro [15:12] - Had a talk with dpm on that as well (thanks) [15:12] - Needed to push the reviewed serverguide on Oneiric release day! [15:13] -- For that, reviewed the remaining 3 chapters myself [15:13] -- sent out coordination emails on server list asking every volunteer to review their chapters [15:13] -- created 5 merge proposals for chapters .. reached out to doc committers list [15:13] -- reached out to translators list to get confirmation, we can push and that no translator is on it [15:14] -- finally all chapters merged .. success [15:14] - Created nice green visulasion and blogged it http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-serverguide-community-review-100percent/ [15:14] - Created wiki page on using juju to control an orchestra server fleet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OrchestraJuju [15:15] - Created wiki page on install ubuntu-cloud (openstack) using juju charms on top of orchestra : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/UbuntuCloudOrchestraJuju [15:15] - Blogged an article with pointers to all four needed pages: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-cloud-deployment-with-orchestra-and-juju/ [15:15] - Also created a video demo'ing ubuntu-cloud-live today .. apparently youtube chokes on OGV [15:16] so converting to whatever and pushing today [15:16] - smaller stuff: Fill cloud part in dpm's new community overview page, review UCD for Amber's checklist document, cloud portal maintainence (answer comments) [15:16] that's mostly all [15:17] thanks kim0 [15:17] jcastro, your go [15:17] ok! [15:17] DONE: [15:17] - Plenaries are all done (2 left from Linaro) [15:17] - We have a car for UDS for the week before the sprint. [15:17] - Reviewed upstream linkages in release notes for Kate. [15:17] - Finished the mobile schedule, should be public any day now. [15:17] - Submitted talk with Clint for SCALeS awesome cloud day. [15:17] - Went to Puerto Rico this weekend and drank from a coconut, and then ate the coconut. It was awesome. [15:17] DOING: [15:17] - Openweek stuff. [15:17] - Random "how do I schedule a session?" questions from ubuntu developers. [15:17] - Send people here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Scheduling [15:17] - Random UDS things, updating the website. [15:17] - Still procastinating on my goals and blueprints, but I promise to start today, for real. Actually can we set a deadline? [15:17] - Ping from some developers on app indicator support, sent them to DX. [15:17] - Messing with juju local dev, this will be wicked. [15:17] - Working with guy who is porting the AU and reddit lenses to 11.10. He's blocking on a bug, followed up with didrocks, mikkel's got a patch in hand and it's been reviewed by Tomau upstream, waiting on an SRU to make Python lenses actually work. [15:17] - Telling the world about the Ubuntu Friendly thing, because it's awesome [15:17] TODOs: [15:17] In an unprecedent move to improve transparency, I am making my TODO list public, and prototpying this with akgraner and pleia, anyone is welcome to join in and assign me stuff. You can see what I am working on in real time, holla at me if you want to give this a shot and see if it works for us: [15:17] - https://trello.com/board/community-team/4e6febfb247e35000000aab1 [15:17] - https://trello.com/board/classroom/4e94f7afaef5aa0000a5d2ea [15:17] any questions? [15:17] :) [15:17] man u should paste line by line [15:17] :) [15:18] braindrump [15:18] jcastro, showoff! [15:18] hate that guy [15:18] lol [15:18] one of the nice things about this meeting format is that I am listening to Dio right now :-) [15:18] thanks jcastro [15:18] ok, I am up next [15:18] -- Week before in Boston for OpenStack Summit - good event, JuJu demo went really well, the team did an awesome job. [15:18] Also sat in on their governance/foundation session - was interesting, but I think they are going to face more challenges than they face [15:19] the real challenge is when all the companies want things outside of the published governance [15:19] -- In London last week for the release sprint - sat in management meetings for half of it [15:19] discussed as range of topics in mgmt meetings such as new quality processes for 12.04, localized isos (dpm need to discuss this with you), derivs and the release process [15:20] outside of that discussed Mark's opening talk at UDS, the design<->community process and how we open it up more, caught up on the ARB [15:20] was great to hang with some of the QA folks, jibel and gema are awesome [15:20] also had a bunch of calls with community members over the recent feedback and concerns about motivation - merged that into my notes [15:20] jono, on localized isos, the main point to resolve now is testing. I had a chat with skaet and arranged a call with her and jibel next Monday [15:20] hit up the release party which was fun, and I still blame popey for my head on the flight back [15:21] dpm, yeah, I want to ensure we tightly scope that work [15:21] all you should focus on is connecting the translations leads to the release process [15:21] we don't want to spend too much time on this one with everything else going on [15:21] got back on Friday and I am behind on email [15:21] -- UDS related bits [15:22] social events finished [15:22] finalizing Linaro requirements - they all seem set now [15:22] blueprinting going well, badgered engineering managers and tech leads about it - the schedule is starting to form now [15:22] jcastro, we need to keep an eye on the BPs to approve them - I approved 55 last night [15:22] pgraner and I also discussed plans for Allstars :-) [15:22] wait, I don't approve blueprints [15:22] or am I supposed to now? [15:22] jcastro, oh, I thought you did [15:23] jcastro, I know I can, who else can? [15:23] track leads [15:23] ahhh cool [15:23] I will pester them again [15:23] -- spent a bunch of time working on gathering and processing community feedback to resolve community concerns [15:23] oh, hang on [15:23] jcastro, did you get that Nokia session scheduled [15:23] I am not sure if Claire reached out to you [15:24]