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SpamapSjMCg: she said there'd be days like this00:10
sparcHey there.  If I'd like to change the load order of some of the scsi drivers, during the pxe-loaded installer...00:45
sparccan i alter that somewhere00:45
sparcIt seems like mptscsi_h can't be loaded after aic7xx, on 10.04 lts00:46
sparcLooks like there's a modules.order in the initrd.  starting there.  seems like a good place :)00:58
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laptopfreek0_Can anybody help me out with a really slow authentication problem?02:19
laptopfreek0_whenever I log in or run sudo commands it takes almost a solid minute to respond02:19
twbThat's because your nss entries are trying to use ldap or something first, and failing02:23
twblaptopfreek0_: pastebin output of "more /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/pam.d/common* | cat"02:23
laptopfreek0_twb: sorry for the delay, had to setup samba to transfer the log. Here you go: http://pastebin.com/x9SDVZye02:30
twblaptopfreek0_: OK, nss is fine02:30
twblaptopfreek0_: the problem is probably winbind failing to talk to samba02:31
twblaptopfreek0_: oh, or kerberos02:31
laptopfreek0_still a little green with linux, how might I fix those.02:31
twblaptopfreek0_: ok, run pam-auth-update and toggle stuff on-and-off until the problem goes away02:31
twblaptopfreek0_: if you are a newbie you probably should steer clear of kerberos, it's HARD02:31
laptopfreek0_not complete noob, just mostly :)02:32
laptopfreek0_Oh crap I just locked myself out of my server...02:33
twbEspecially since two-thirds of the kerberos community are all "just install Windows and AD, AD is the best, linux is for longhair hippie freaks"02:33
laptopfreek0_I should have had duel sessions open.02:33
laptopfreek0_well I will be chrooting in from a live disc, will check back in when I regain access to my server.02:35
aarossigI am building a server and I need access to the previous x versions of the file. Any suggestions?02:42
aarossigexample: I save a file, the current version is stored in a folder in case I decide to revert or the connection is interrupted and data is lost.02:43
aarossigVersioning file systems come  to mind, but I would love some suggestions02:43
qman__unfortunately there isn't anything mainstream that supports what you're after02:45
qman__closest thing would be etckeeper/git and such, or like you said, a versioning filesystem02:45
qman__it's not that the technology doesn't exist; it does02:48
qman__but it's just not something widely used, and therefore not widely tested02:48
patdk-lapheh, it's widely used, just not in the linux world02:48
qman__right02:48
patdk-lapmany many document systems do this02:48
patdk-lapbut they are all specialized proporitory systems02:48
qman__plan 9 does this by default02:48
qman__and plenty of version control systems are out there02:49
qman__but in linux, not on the filesystem level02:49
qman__even windows does it to a degree with volume shadow copy02:50
patdk-lapthought that works kind of the same basic way lvm does02:51
qman__but that's just a snapshot at scheduled intervals02:51
qman__which you can do with LVM or etckeeper or plenty of other things02:51
patdk-laptime to use btrfs02:52
patdk-lapjust hope it's nothing critical02:52
qman__backups, backups, backups02:52
patdk-lapI can't imagine backing up btrfs is sane at all02:53
patdk-lapzfs atleast has a nice small backup footprint, if you use it's dump02:53
patdk-lapbut btrfs doesn't, so you would end up duplicating the crap out of files02:53
laptopfreek0_using zfs now, but honestly can't tell how the performance is.02:54
patdk-lapheh? how do you mean, you can't tell?02:54
laptopfreek0_don't know of any good way of testing02:54
patdk-lapthat depends on so many things02:54
patdk-lapwhat kind of performance do you need?02:54
laptopfreek0_gaming server, so performance is key but backup is important as well... Using a zfs mirror right now02:55
laptopfreek0_Its just a pain to try and mount in a live disc02:55
patdk-lapa single mirror?02:55
patdk-lapthis is zfs on linux?02:56
laptopfreek0_dual drives, so yeah single mirror (i think)02:56
qman__if you only have two drives, you might as well just raid 102:56
patdk-lapya, zfs won't give you anything, except checksum benifits02:56
twbqman__: plan 9 uses versioned files by default?02:56
patdk-lapthat is nice, but02:56
twbqman__: I thought only VMS did02:56
laptopfreek0_would have used raid 1, but turned out my computer used software raid instead of a raid controller02:57
twbThere's a fuse overlay that adds versioning, but IMO using etckeeper or git is better.02:57
qman__I could be mistaken but I thought it did02:57
twbOh, and samba's shadow copy shit is SEXY02:57
laptopfreek0_and I paid extra for a board with raid in it :(02:57
patdk-laplaptopfreek0_, what is wrong with software raid?02:57
patdk-lapheh? you payed extra for fakeraid?02:57
laptopfreek0_yeah something like that.02:58
laptopfreek0_got a disc with windows only driver to setup raid02:58
patdk-lapheh02:58
laptopfreek0_figured zfs was a better option02:58
qman__unless you have a very expensive board, onboard raid controllers are fakeraid and worthless02:58
patdk-laphad two servers, they where suppost to have fakeraid on it, but they failed to set them up right02:58
qman__the only use for it is raid 0 on a windows desktop02:58
patdk-lapI did a scan, and both disks where totally inconsistant02:58
patdk-lapthey reinstalled from rhel5 to rhel6, and fakeraid worked, but the servers where dog slow02:59
patdk-lapreinstalled with mdadm, and all is better02:59
qman__because it's really just software raid with a hack, and real software raid has far more options and compatibility02:59
patdk-lapqman, well, my real issue is the whole dm driver thing02:59
patdk-lapit caches writes, and does them all at once03:00
patdk-lapnothing like having a few thousand random writes queued up, and written all at once03:00
patdk-lapwith iowait of 100% for several seconds03:00
patdk-lapwhere without it, it's sits at a nice 2% iowait, steady03:00
patdk-lapsame thing happens when I use dm crypted disks03:01
qman__heh03:01
qman__but yeah, unless you need the checksumming, with only two disks you won't really see the advantages of zfs03:01
qman__and raid 1 will be faster03:01
qman__if speed is a concern03:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #877031 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87703103:01
qman__zfs is designed around data integrity and redundancy, aimed at keeping your data safe and accurate03:03
qman__and that all comes at a performance penalty03:03
qman__where raid 1 just writes everything to two disks03:03
qman__whether or not that's a problem depends entirely on your application03:04
laptopfreek0_twd: turns out it was SMB password synchronization, but how can I still authenticate samba passwords?03:10
RoAkSoAxsmoser: because it is shipped with orchestra atm03:14
twbIf you want my attention, you need to spell my name correctly.03:14
laptopfreek0_twb: sorry man lol03:16
twblaptopfreek0_: if you want to authenticate unix logins against samba, then I guess you need to make that work03:16
laptopfreek0_twb: no other way around it?03:17
smoserRoAkSoAx, well, clearly, but why did you do that03:17
twblaptopfreek0_: well, no.  If it doesn't work, then it won't work.03:18
smoserRoAkSoAx, no big deal, but something to fix for P03:19
laptopfreek0_twb: ok thanks guess I will just make a few users for samba, and not verify against unix logins. Thanks so much for your help man.03:19
rcsheetsI don't actually know whether this is server-specific or not, as I don't have an oneiric desktop, but I see packages twice in aptitude.03:21
rcsheetsso for instance i have just run aptitude in interactive mode and searched for ^apache2 and i see apache2-prefork-dev, apache2-prefork-dev, apache2-threaded-dev, apache2-threaded-dev, etc.03:22
rcsheetsthe duplicates seem to be the same version as one another03:22
rcsheetsbut the explanatory text in the bottom part of the window is different. the first instance of each package has a normal-looking description, but the second one just has the homepage URL.03:23
rcsheetsor nothing at all03:23
Guest38820i was trying to set up openvpn, used the config that the ubuntu wiki said, and now networking won't start03:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #877040 in autofs (main) "Can't login to 11.10 if autofs is used to mount network directories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87704003:26
RoAkSoAxsmoser: yeah I guess I forgot to ship it with cobbler itself03:32
RoAkSoAx:)03:32
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twbWhoa, lot of changes in ubuntu-lucid kernel repo in the last couple days04:58
twbI *think* they're only in master-next and therefore don't affect me, tho04:59
kaushalHi05:11
kaushalIn samba, path = /path/to/share/point so if i have /database as directory and user as sales whats the preferred read write and user and group ownership permission on /database05:13
twbkaushal: 2775?05:34
twbkaushal: it depends what you want05:34
kaushalok05:34
kaushaltwb: ok05:36
kaushaldrwxrwsr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-10-18 06:26 /database/05:38
kaushaltwb: so should it be sales:root ?05:38
twbUh, setgid root is probably bad05:38
kaushaltwb: my bad05:38
twbMore like root:sales05:38
twbOr if the sales group has a division head Geoff, you might to do geoff:sales, but probably root:sales05:39
kaushalwhats the most preferred bit ?05:39
kaushalyou said < twb> kaushal: 2775 ?05:39
twbhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Discretionary_access_control05:39
twbHmm, that is not a very good reference.05:40
kaushaltwb: what should be the ideal perms ?05:40
twbBut you should go learn about POSIX DACs, since you clearly only know enough to be dangerous05:40
twbkaushal: again, it depends what you want05:40
kaushaltwb: yeah05:41
kaushalbut good practices05:41
twbkaushal: you can paraphrase the question as much as you like, the answer won't change.05:41
kaushaltwb: Thanks05:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #877150 in postfix (main) "postfix debconf instructions typo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87715007:16
zapotahrunning ubuntu server on esxi 5.0, i host game servers as a means to learn for my studies in networking etc. Im not too experienced with unix in general but i can handle the basics and a little more. I tried to use the vmxnet3 nic for the server but with it source dedicated servers wont show up in the master server list but directly connecting is possible. If someone connects manually i cant show the server info (from steam server list) and it 08:14
ersiWell, that's more of an ESXi issue than Ubuntu issue08:16
zapotaheither a bug in ubuntu, the vmxnet3 driver module, in source dedi server or a configuration error that im unaware of08:16
ersiWhat version of ubuntu are you running?08:16
zapotah11.0408:17
ersiAnd have you for some reason sat that NIC in ESXi to be 'NAT'? Or is it bridged?08:17
zapotahits bridged08:19
ersialright, great08:19
zapotahdirectly connected to the vSwitch08:20
zapotahthe problem persist with vms connected to the same vSwitch08:20
ersiand you're able to connect via SSH/remote or connect to your game serverd directly? (just making sure)08:20
zapotahyes08:21
zapotahits very odd really08:22
ersiIf you'd run the 'iptables -L' command from one of the machines, do you get an output like this? http://dpaste.org/DrkP5/ (might want to do "sudo iptables -L" if you're logged on as regular user)08:22
Patriot7912Hello to all08:23
zapotahsec08:23
ersisure08:23
Patriot7912I have major problems trying to get my Windows 7 machine connect to Ubuntu running domain logons08:24
zapotahits currently running with the e1000 so it works. have to change it back08:24
ersiwell, iptables is the firewall08:24
ersiso that'd be the same output with or without that driver08:25
ersibut it works when you're using the e1000 driver?08:25
zapotahyes08:26
zapotahthats the odd part08:26
zapotahthe vmxnet3 adapter would allow for lower latency08:26
zapotah(hosting game servers after all...)08:26
ersiAnd you're having latency issues? Or are you just making whiny gamers less obsessive about their numbers? :P08:27
zapotahim trying to figure out why the adapter doesnt work :D08:27
* ersi remember his dial up days with 400ms playing Counter Strike08:27
zapotah:D08:27
zapotahout of professional curiosity08:27
ersiWorked fine, you whippersnappers!08:27
ersiYeah :) Well, hm.08:28
zapotahbut the iptables shows exactly like that08:28
ersiAre you changing the driver in the machine, or the NIC in ESXi?08:28
zapotahchanging the nic in esxi08:28
zapotahwhich is done08:28
ersiMind pasting the output of 'lspci' from the ubuntu machine to dpaste.org for me?08:30
ersiit'll list all PCI* "hardware" present08:30
zapotahthe vmxnet3 adapter shows up correctly08:31
zapotahand no conflicts08:31
ersido you have the vmware tools installed in the guest?08:32
zapotahyes and i forced it to upgrade the vmxnet3 module08:32
ersiMan, freggin' virtualised stuff08:33
ersipain in the ass when something isn't working, and hard to tell what's up08:33
zapotahi know :D08:33
zapotahbut its just so much more efficient08:33
zapotahand more secure08:33
ersiwell, it's less efficient since some thing doesn't seem to work08:34
zapotahtrue :D08:34
ersiTried the vmxnet2 one? Seems like there should be one of those available, maybe prior to ESXi 5.0 though..08:34
koolhead17hi all08:34
zapotahbut if i figure it out ill be extremely satisfied08:34
zapotahill try it08:34
ersiNot to be an ass, but I'm assuming this to be completely ESXi's fault :)08:35
zapotahim assuming it could be anything08:35
zapotah:D08:35
zapotahhmm08:37
zapotahdmesg says that it recognizes the link to be 10gbps08:37
zapotahbut lshw -c network output says that the capacity is 1Gbit/s08:38
zapotahalso in comparison the clock with vmxnet3 is 33Mhz and width 32 bits compared to 66Mhz and 64 bits with e100008:39
zapotahi wonder if my own ip is g-lined from the freenode network O.o09:33
lynxmanmorning fellas o/09:43
koolhead17mornin lynxman :D09:47
koolhead17Daviey: hello09:47
Davieyhey koolhead1710:07
jMCgHas anyone seen something like this: http://dpaste.com/636491/ -- or know how to fix it? According to the bug report it's fixed in oneiric.. Well, this *is* oneiric.11:17
jMCghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/155689/comments/1611:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 155689 in linux "nuking initramfs contents: Kernel panic at boot" [Undecided,Fix released]11:18
jMCgvs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/613273/comments/611:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 613273 in udev "kernel panic on ec2 in system_call_fastpath" [Undecided,Fix released]11:19
zapotahafter a ridiculous amount of work i can safely say that the problem does not lie in ubuntu12:29
zapotaheither in linux kernel in general12:29
zapotahthe vmxnet3 driver module, esxi, or vmxnet3 configuration12:30
zapotahis there a community irc channel for vmware stuff?12:33
zulgood morning12:45
jMCgIs there any channel, medium or forum, other than the ones that have already exhausted me with silence, that would be better suited to help me get this running?12:56
lynxmanzul: morning!13:00
uvirtbotNew bug: #877322 in quagga (main) "package quagga 0.99.15-1ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87732213:03
olyhi, i am after some advice i have setup an email server with aliases i would like to be able to send out from an email client as an aliased user what do i need to change for this functionality ?13:04
olyanyone able to point me in the correct direction ?13:04
koolhead17oly: did you checked ubuntu server guide?13:14
olynope, but i dont necessarily know what i am looking for13:15
olyis it aliases that allow this functionality ?13:15
olynot sure on the terminology of what i want13:15
olyi can see a drop down in evolution and roundcube which has a drop down to select who is ssending the email but they only have the current user13:16
just-a-visitoroly: Basically you need to set up the email client to connect the server with the non-aliased username, but send the aliased name as the „From:” field.13:25
olyso its client side software configuration, is there a name for this setup ?13:25
olymay help with my googles, so i can figure out how to setup webmail to use it13:26
smoserjdstrand, do you use indicator-multiload still ?13:30
just-a-visitoroly: It happens when you create a mailbox in your mail client software. See the 2nd screenshot (http://mozilla.gunnars.net/thunderbird_mail_setup.html), there goes the alias user name, and on the 4th the original user name. (This is for Mozilla Thunderbird, but all clients should provide the same settings.)13:30
smoserjdstrand, wondering specifically if you see bug 877420.13:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 877420 in indicator-multiload ".xsession-errors grows quickly and indefinitely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87742013:31
jdstrandsmoser: I do, but I don't see that bug13:33
hallynjdstrand, hey, just wondering - i was looking at syncing virt-viewer.  I see there are 3 ubuntu-specific patches.  Was there a reason not to send those to debian?13:33
jdstrandsmoser: I have 0.2-0ubuntu113:34
jdstrandhallyn: probably not, let me see13:34
hallynwell, i see they went upstream13:36
hallyn(but aren't yet in the sid package)13:36
jdstrandhallyn: I see no reason why those should not be in Debian13:37
jdstrandnot sure why I didn't submittodebian13:37
hallynjdstrand, ok, thanks, i'll13:37
hallynhm.  submittodebian.  never tried that13:37
hallyni always do it by hand13:38
jdstrandI still have that source here13:38
jdstrandI can submit it now13:38
jdstrandhallyn: ah, it is really handy. it will add all the tags, etc for you13:38
hallynjdstrand, cool, thanks13:39
hallyn(i'll try it out next time i have need :)13:39
jdstrandhallyn: submitted13:44
hallynjdstrand, awesome, thanks.  testing the sync from debian meanwhile.  it appears the already fix the bug i was going to start out fixing this morning13:45
jdstrandcool13:45
olyjust-a-visitor, hum not sure thats quite right what about mulitiple aliases13:48
olywhat if i wanted to select oly@example.com olymk2@example.com or firstname.surname @example.com13:49
just-a-visitoroly: You should create 3 accounts with these alias email addresses, but all of them login the server as the original user name.13:52
UrsinhaDaviey, hello13:52
olyoh okay, not ideal thought you would just be able to use the drop down box to select,13:56
olythanks anyway just-a-visitor, something i can work with anyway13:56
martianI have a samba share mounted with cifs via my fstab, and for some reason all files are showing up with the execute bit set. Why?13:58
just-a-visitoroly: You're welcome! I am sorry, that I cannot help you more, but I am not using your email clients.13:58
olyno problem, i wish i could use thunderbird but unfortunately its missing functionality i need :(13:59
madwillhi can anybody help out on creating a ssl key14:01
DavieyUrsinha: heya14:01
madwilli bought a certificate on goDaddy and follow the instruction but at the moment to create the CSR file its always empty14:02
UrsinhaDaviey, busy>14:02
Ursinha?14:02
DavieyUrsinha: nope, never am :)14:02
Ursinhahaha yeah right14:02
UrsinhaDaviey, what time is server meeting today? in two hours?14:03
UrsinhaDaviey, I'll grab a cup of tea and then can we talk?14:05
DavieyUrsinha: sounds good!14:05
hallynjdstrand, seems i don't have permissions.  Do you mind sponsoring http://people.canonical.com/~serge/virt-viewer-sync.debdiff ?14:13
hallynthen we can mark bug 871847 fix released and sru it14:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 871847 in virt-viewer "Bad port '0' upon connect qemu+ssh" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87184714:13
jdstrandhallyn: sure14:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #873691 in samba (main) "upgrading to Kubuntu 11.10 failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87369114:20
uvirtbotNew bug: #877458 in mysql-5.1 (main) "MySQL undefined references" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87745814:21
jdstrandhallyn: ok, looks good. I added the LP reference to the changelog14:34
Der-Sebohello14:34
Der-Sebohave a problem with sieve14:34
jdstrandhallyn: the added '0' is slightly odd, but fine. I'd prefer starting with 9000 or something, but am uploading as is14:34
hallynjdstrand, thx, i wasn't sure where i should do that.  will see how you phrased it14:35
Der-Sebowant to filter emails with seive14:35
hallynjdstrand, hm, 9000 would be better14:35
hallynls would output inthe right order14:35
Der-Sebothe tag received14:35
jdstrandhallyn: I can fix if you prefer14:35
hallynjdstrand, that'd be great, thanks14:35
Der-Sebobut need the first one and sieve search in the last one14:35
hallynjdstrand, so i wonder if, for the sru, we should take the patch from the merge, or the original (much simpler, imo) patch from the bug report which also works14:36
jdstrandhallyn: the merge probably, since that is presumably what is being submitted upstream14:37
hallynyeah, i'm testing it right now to make sure it still applies and works there14:38
Der-Seboi want to filter mail with sieve, looking for the mailaddy in the received tag but sieve search in the last one and i need the first received tag14:42
fixxxermetCan anyone recommend a tool to monitor a Hewlett-Packard Company Smart Array G6 controller?14:47
fixxxermetSomething similart to smartd / smartctl, for example.14:47
jdstrandhallyn: uploaded14:48
hallynjdstrand, great, thanks.  The newer patch works fine, yay.14:48
jdstrand\o/14:49
zulhallyn: where is test-libvirt.py again?14:55
hallynzul, bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/qa-regression-testing/14:55
hallynuh, 'lp:qa-regression-testing' will do14:55
hallynunder scripts/test-libvirt.py14:55
hallynjdstrand, do you mind also pushing the oneiric-proposed fix from http://people.canonical.com/~serge/virt-viewer-port0.debdiff ?  (SRU justification completed inthe bug report)14:56
zulhallyn: thanks14:57
uvirtbotNew bug: #877480 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87748015:01
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zulso who wants the pain of reviewing the libvirt merge...15:19
zuli mean who wants to review libvirt for me15:19
Davieyhallyn: ^^ ?15:20
hallynof course15:20
zulhallyn: gimme a sec15:22
hallynno hurry15:24
hallynhell can wait15:24
robbiewDaviey: do we want to retarget https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-drop-vmbuilder to Precise, or forget about the POSTPONED items15:26
zulhallyn: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/libvirt15:28
Davieyrobbiew: I would suggest, if mvo wants to have another look at [mvo] move do-release-upgrade build/testing to live-build: POSTPONED , then we re-vist, otherwise just not push it further.15:33
robbiewDaviey: /me defers :)15:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #877520 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87752015:36
DavieyI hate samba.15:36
w00I'm starting too, even though i don't use it.. but it spams this chan so it's enough for me :]15:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #491685 in memcached "memcached doesn't correctly daemonize" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49168515:37
hallynzul, (looking)  it passes the tests?15:42
zuli have run the tests yet i have been using it this morning thuogh15:42
hallynok15:42
hallyn(I'll run them later today)15:42
hallynjinkeys15:45
hallynserge@sergelap:~$ aptitude search libpcap15:45
hallynSegmentation fault15:45
hallyndieson TIOCGWINSZ ioctl15:46
jdpondIs this worth reporting again (dhclient file pointed to in ifup doesn't exist), causing a lease file not found log 11.10.         http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11362275&postcount=715:50
kajeI've installed Ubuntu 11.10 and when it boots, I get an error no such device, with what looks like a UUID. It then provides a grub terminal. I booted from a live cd and discovered that my root disk has a different UUID than what grub is complaining about when I do a normal boot. How can I change the UUID that grub is looking for at boot?15:54
hallynzul, one little note - you used the oneiric libvirt-bin, not precise's.15:56
zulhallyn: eh?15:56
hallynso you're missing the fix for bug#863629 which is only in 0.9.2-4ubuntu1615:57
hallyn(and not yet upstream)15:57
kpettitkaje, it looks like you need to change /boot/grub/grub.cfg15:58
zulhallyn: crap...ill fix that15:59
hallynthx, no biggie :)  and a rarely found bug15:59
SpamapSserver team meeting time. :)15:59
robbiewo/16:01
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kajereinstalling grub fixed my problem.16:04
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hallynzul: libvirt won't start for me16:17
hallynlibvirt-bin start/running, process 340916:17
hallyn.: 37: Can't open @bindir@/gettext.sh16:17
hallyni'll look at it later16:17
zulhallyn: dnsmasq running?16:17
hallynroot@stack:~# ps -ef | grep dnsmasq16:18
hallynnobody    1502     1  0 11:00 ?        00:00:00 dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/default.pid --conf-file= --except-interface lo --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254 --dhcp-leasefile=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.leases --dhcp-lease-max=253 --dhcp-no-override16:18
hallyn(i did update, not fresh install)16:19
zulhallyn: its something to do with dnsmasq i killed it and restarted and it worked fine16:29
hallynzul, well I assume it's this one:  ./tools/libvirt-guests.init.sh:37:16:33
hallynbut i don't know where that lives16:33
zulweird16:34
hallyn/etc/default/libvirt-guests16:34
hallyno16:34
hallynno16:34
hallyn/etc/init.d/libvirt-guests!16:35
zulah..16:35
zulso we have to do a libvirt-guests upstart script now?16:35
hallyndepends on what that script does :)16:35
zullibvirt-bin.libvirt-guests.init16:36
hallynthat or delete it16:36
zul"# description:  This is a script for suspending active libvirt guests \16:36
zul#               on shutdown and resuming them on next boot \16:36
zul#               See http://libvirt.org16:36
zul"16:36
Davieyzul: python-xattr is calling for you.16:36
zulDaviey: i bet :)16:36
Davieylynxman: did you submittodebian bug 838959 ?16:37
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 838959 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server startup_log should include a date/timestamp" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83895916:37
lynxmanDaviey: not yet, will do later today16:38
Davieylynxman: please do.. thanks :)16:38
lynxmanDaviey: sir yes sir16:39
SpamapSwow, the meetingology bot is so much better16:39
SpamapSminuts done in 9 minutes16:39
DavieySpamapS: make sure you buy AlanBell a beer.16:39
hallynzul, so presuming we will upstartify the libvirt-guests.init script, then we can pull some code out of libvirt-bin.upstart16:41
zulhallyn: right16:41
hallynzul, frankly i'm thinking we might jsut drop that file for now, and discuss at uds how to bes thandle it16:42
hallynwith SpamapS and hopefully jdstrand in the room16:42
zulhallyn: fine with me...16:43
hallynThe one thing that script adds is the ability to suspend/resume the VMs.  Might be worthwhile16:43
zulbut we dont need SpamapS ;)16:43
hallyn:)16:43
_spt_Hi folks, Could someone point me to a script I can rn at a set time to turn off the server? The mobo has a powerup timer on it but i could do with a powerdown at a set time -  thanks in advance16:43
hallynzul, also every virsh command, while it succeeds, starts by printing out16:47
hallynWARNING: no socket to connect to16:47
* jdstrand would be happy to attend the libvirt session(s). I may not have a lot to offer on that particular topic however16:48
RoyK_spt_: simply add a cron job running 'halt' at that time16:50
RoyK!cron16:50
ubottucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto16:50
_spt_that simple? - thanks!16:50
RoyKthat simple :)16:51
_spt_cheers !16:51
hallynSpamapS, now you're just showing off!  (re meeting minutes :)16:53
UrsinhaDaviey, so it seems launchpad is working to request sync packages right now16:55
DavieyUrsinha: yes, but you cannot do it.  Unless i am mistaken?16:58
UrsinhaDaviey, I'm not sure, probably not, but I recall you saying it was mostly for experimental stuff, so I came here to tell you :)16:59
DavieyUrsinha: Yes, i said that you cannot request a sponsored sync'd at the moment17:00
hallynzul: (qa regression tests are running over here)17:01
DavieyI don't yet trust +localpackagediffs for my sync's TBH17:01
DavieyThe beta tag alone is enough to make me run, let alone the mess it created last cycle.17:02
UrsinhaDaviey, why is that?17:02
Ursinhamess?17:02
UrsinhaI didn't know about that17:02
DavieyUrsinha: There was an accidental mass-sync when it was being tested late in Oneiric cycle.17:02
Ursinhamother of god17:03
Daviey(javascript issue)17:03
Ursinha"I not always test my code... but when I do, I do it in production" ?17:03
Ursinhahttp://goo.gl/CDn0u17:04
Daviey:)17:05
zulhallyn: cool beans17:10
zulUrsinha: its the devops way17:10
hallynzul, we need to fix that WARNING msg though17:10
hallynhmm, 44 failures17:10
hallynprobably something in my setup.  re-running to debug17:10
Ursinhazul, haha17:11
RoyKhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/17:12
hallynzul, hm, looks like the socket msg might be due to gnome-keyring17:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #877607 in php5 (main) "package libapache2-mod-php5 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.3 failed to install/upgrade: vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureerd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87760717:26
hallynp11kit really.  presumably if i log into x it'll go away.17:27
RoyKA lot of this info really should go into the ubuntu raid howto ... http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software17:28
* RoyK starts picking pieces17:28
RoyKor into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID, even17:29
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877621 in facter (main) "Please merge facter 1.6.1 (main) from Debain unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87762117:56
_ruben"weird" .. i get this when doing a do-release-upgrade on a natty box: Your graphics hardware may not be fully supported in Ubuntu 11.04.18:14
_rubenso while upgrading to 11.10, it warns about possible issues with 11.04 :p18:14
RoyKheh - probably just a bug18:15
_rubenthe question that arises: is it 11.04, 11.10 or both that might have issues :)18:15
koolhead17_ruben: lol18:15
PiciMake sure to read the release notes just in case.18:18
Pici!notes18:18
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) release notes can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/11.1018:18
drahstdoes anyone know where the best resource for kvm/qemu is?18:23
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drahstI'm trying to get virtual servers up and running and optimized... while I can use vmm to create a virtual or even clone one, I do not believe that it's using virtio for disk access nor do I know how to make sure that it installs onto a pre-allocated disk image18:25
akioDo the vnet interfaces for vms add back to their respective bridges automatically after network restart? I expect this and it isn't happening. Wondering what went wrong.18:26
akiodrahst: log in to the vmhost and do a virsh dumpxml on your vm name18:27
akioThe settings are clear in xml.18:27
drahstyeah... I see that it's using "ide" drives18:28
drahsthow do you install to a pre-allocated image18:28
akioTHat may just be for the virtual cdrom.18:28
akioShould be able to just attach the image and boot it.18:28
drahstI guess I don't understand18:30
drahstI read that using qcow2 with meta preallocation is the way to go on drives for reduced I/O18:31
drahstbut I can't figure out how to make vmbuilder or virt-install use that preallocated file for the machine's drive18:31
RoyKanyone that knows what might be disabling cores on ubuntu natty+ on amd systems?18:34
stichtyou mean you can't see all cores in /proc/cpuinfo?18:35
RoyKor in htop18:35
RoyKguy I knew complained about it18:36
RoyKs/knew/know/18:36
drahsthrm... how do you add the bridges you create from your host O/S to the network piece of VMM?18:36
RoyKdrahst: just plain bridging as in use with kvm or something?18:37
stichtmaybe it's a virtual machine which only has a few cores assigned?18:37
RoyKsticht: physical machine18:37
akiodrahst: you dont18:38
drahstyeah18:38
stichtno idea if it is a physical machine. BIOS?18:38
drahstI've got two bridges on the host OS18:38
akiodrahst: and the virt-clone is what you are looking for i think18:38
drahstthe guest operating systems have to be reachable by the network18:39
akiobrctl addif bridgename vnetname18:39
drahstso I had to create br0 and br118:39
akiolibvirt doesn't handle what you are doing18:39
akiobrctl addif br0 vnet118:39
akiobrctl show will show the connected interfaces and bridges18:39
RoyKakio: http://pastebin.com/HBtVpywi18:40
RoyKthat's my config18:40
RoyKworks like a charm18:40
akioRoyK: You don't actually have to assign an ip to the eth0 interface, you can do iface inet manual18:41
RoyKyou don't need one18:42
RoyKI know - that was just pasted from an old config - I was in a hurry18:42
zulRoakSoAx: ping once im done with this merge im going to start pushing cobbler patches backup stream18:53
uvirtbotNew bug: #877653 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87765318:56
RoyKbug 87319818:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 873198 in grub2 "grub.cfg is not updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87319818:57
boxybrownanyone here a pxeboot + preseed expert?19:30
_rubenexpert, no .. got it up and running, yes19:32
elz89yeah, same. I think we have all messed with pixies at one point or another :-P19:33
boxybrownIs there a way to add ppa repositories in a preseed file?19:35
boxybrownI want a specific package available in a ppa installed on the machines, but I can't figure out if its possible to get the package from a ppa19:36
t3_Greetings. I'm having a problem with KVM in 2.6.38-11-server and was wondering what problems I might run into if I use 2.6.38-12-generic (bug seems to be fixed there)? I'm using standard HW...19:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #875440 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "Cannot authenticate with saslauthd and mysql" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87544019:53
RoAkSoAxzul: alright19:55
* Daviey ^5's zul for samba merge19:56
boxybrownany ideas? adding ppas to preseed?20:05
zulRoakSoAx: we should be able to drop intrepid and jaunty as well dont you think?20:18
RoyKzul: aren't they both non-supported along with karmic?20:22
zulRoyK: yes thats the point20:23
smosermdeslaur, http://mdeslaur.blogspot.com/20:23
smoserwhat do i search for to know that i'll get a disk with "FDE" per thinkpad20:24
smoserif i search for fde or encrypted on newegg, results are almost none.20:24
RoyKsmoser: server on a thinkpad? ;)20:24
smoserin a thinkpad.20:24
mdeslaursmoser: http://www.hitachigst.com/internal-drives/self-encrypting-drives/20:24
smoser:) yes, bad channel.20:24
mdeslaursmoser: those are the models hitachi has20:25
smoserso yeah, those are good, and i found one, but surely there are others, right?20:25
smoseri was looking for some term that would appear in a search.20:25
mdeslaursmoser: each manufacturer calls it something different20:25
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mdeslaursmoser: what manufacturer/model came with your thinkpad?20:25
smoserWD3200BEVS-020:26
RoAkSoAxzul: yeah20:29
RoAkSoAxzul: add prestige though20:29
zulprecise you mean20:30
zulto be precise20:30
Ursinhahahahaha20:30
mdeslaursmoser: huh, doesn't even look like WD has disks that support encryption20:30
mdeslaursmoser: intel just says certain models of their SSDs support "AES 128"20:31
mdeslaursmoser: "FDE" is supposed to be the term20:32
smoseryeah.20:32
smoserseagate uses that.20:32
RoAkSoAxzul: err yeah precise lol20:33
* zul has been waiting to use that joke20:33
* RoAkSoAx has had a long weekend20:34
RoAkSoAxlol20:34
mdeslaursmoser: HTS725050A9A361 is what I have, fwiw20:36
RoyKthat linux scrub thing should go into the ubuntu raid howto20:44
RoyKhttp://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software#Write-intent_bitmap20:45
RoyKsome info there20:45
RoyKI'll do some writing about it unless anyone else bothers :P20:45
smosermdeslaur, thanks.20:50
Davieysoren: Can python-eventlet be sync'd ?20:56
veganadiananyone have experience with hot-plugging SATA drives ?  when i do this ---------> echo "1" > /sys/block/sdb/device/delete <------- i get "ata3.00: disabled" and the drive spins down as it should, then i can remove it.   but when i put it back in the same port/bay , if i rescan with rescan-scsi-bus.sh, the system will lock up and be unresponsive.  so my question is this... is it possible to enable a down S21:01
veganadianATA port ?21:02
sorenDaviey: Yes.21:04
sorenGo for it.21:04
uvirtbotNew bug: #877740 in apache2 (main) "CVE-2011-3368 Apache2 mod_proxy reverse proxy exposure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87774021:06
genii-aroundveganadian: Have you tried with sdparm ?21:11
veganadiangenii-around, yeah, but sdb isn't addressable, since the port is off.21:13
veganadianthere's a "add-single-device" subsystem that i'm going to try.21:13
RoyKhttp://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/311464_2089470886934_1550084836_31928395_1228695533_n.jpg21:14
veganadianoooh baby.  :)  echo "scsi add-single-device 2 0 0 0" > /proc/scsi/sci21:16
veganadianand replace "add" with "remove" if you want to remove.  works like a charm.21:17
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877786 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87778622:46
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877798 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87779823:11

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