[00:10] <SpamapS> jMCg: she said there'd be days like this
[00:45] <sparc> Hey there.  If I'd like to change the load order of some of the scsi drivers, during the pxe-loaded installer...
[00:45] <sparc> can i alter that somewhere
[00:46] <sparc> It seems like mptscsi_h can't be loaded after aic7xx, on 10.04 lts
[00:58] <sparc> Looks like there's a modules.order in the initrd.  starting there.  seems like a good place :)
[02:19] <laptopfreek0_> Can anybody help me out with a really slow authentication problem?
[02:19] <laptopfreek0_> whenever I log in or run sudo commands it takes almost a solid minute to respond
[02:23] <twb> That's because your nss entries are trying to use ldap or something first, and failing
[02:23] <twb> laptopfreek0_: pastebin output of "more /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/pam.d/common* | cat"
[02:30] <laptopfreek0_> twb: sorry for the delay, had to setup samba to transfer the log. Here you go: http://pastebin.com/x9SDVZye
[02:30] <twb> laptopfreek0_: OK, nss is fine
[02:31] <twb> laptopfreek0_: the problem is probably winbind failing to talk to samba
[02:31] <twb> laptopfreek0_: oh, or kerberos
[02:31] <laptopfreek0_> still a little green with linux, how might I fix those.
[02:31] <twb> laptopfreek0_: ok, run pam-auth-update and toggle stuff on-and-off until the problem goes away
[02:31] <twb> laptopfreek0_: if you are a newbie you probably should steer clear of kerberos, it's HARD
[02:32] <laptopfreek0_> not complete noob, just mostly :)
[02:33] <laptopfreek0_> Oh crap I just locked myself out of my server...
[02:33] <twb> Especially since two-thirds of the kerberos community are all "just install Windows and AD, AD is the best, linux is for longhair hippie freaks"
[02:33] <laptopfreek0_> I should have had duel sessions open.
[02:35] <laptopfreek0_> well I will be chrooting in from a live disc, will check back in when I regain access to my server.
[02:42] <aarossig> I am building a server and I need access to the previous x versions of the file. Any suggestions?
[02:43] <aarossig> example: I save a file, the current version is stored in a folder in case I decide to revert or the connection is interrupted and data is lost.
[02:43] <aarossig> Versioning file systems come  to mind, but I would love some suggestions
[02:45] <qman__> unfortunately there isn't anything mainstream that supports what you're after
[02:45] <qman__> closest thing would be etckeeper/git and such, or like you said, a versioning filesystem
[02:48] <qman__> it's not that the technology doesn't exist; it does
[02:48] <qman__> but it's just not something widely used, and therefore not widely tested
[02:48] <patdk-lap> heh, it's widely used, just not in the linux world
[02:48] <qman__> right
[02:48] <patdk-lap> many many document systems do this
[02:48] <patdk-lap> but they are all specialized proporitory systems
[02:48] <qman__> plan 9 does this by default
[02:49] <qman__> and plenty of version control systems are out there
[02:49] <qman__> but in linux, not on the filesystem level
[02:50] <qman__> even windows does it to a degree with volume shadow copy
[02:51] <patdk-lap> thought that works kind of the same basic way lvm does
[02:51] <qman__> but that's just a snapshot at scheduled intervals
[02:51] <qman__> which you can do with LVM or etckeeper or plenty of other things
[02:52] <patdk-lap> time to use btrfs
[02:52] <patdk-lap> just hope it's nothing critical
[02:52] <qman__> backups, backups, backups
[02:53] <patdk-lap> I can't imagine backing up btrfs is sane at all
[02:53] <patdk-lap> zfs atleast has a nice small backup footprint, if you use it's dump
[02:53] <patdk-lap> but btrfs doesn't, so you would end up duplicating the crap out of files
[02:54] <laptopfreek0_> using zfs now, but honestly can't tell how the performance is.
[02:54] <patdk-lap> heh? how do you mean, you can't tell?
[02:54] <laptopfreek0_> don't know of any good way of testing
[02:54] <patdk-lap> that depends on so many things
[02:54] <patdk-lap> what kind of performance do you need?
[02:55] <laptopfreek0_> gaming server, so performance is key but backup is important as well... Using a zfs mirror right now
[02:55] <laptopfreek0_> Its just a pain to try and mount in a live disc
[02:55] <patdk-lap> a single mirror?
[02:56] <patdk-lap> this is zfs on linux?
[02:56] <laptopfreek0_> dual drives, so yeah single mirror (i think)
[02:56] <qman__> if you only have two drives, you might as well just raid 1
[02:56] <patdk-lap> ya, zfs won't give you anything, except checksum benifits
[02:56] <twb> qman__: plan 9 uses versioned files by default?
[02:56] <patdk-lap> that is nice, but
[02:56] <twb> qman__: I thought only VMS did
[02:57] <laptopfreek0_> would have used raid 1, but turned out my computer used software raid instead of a raid controller
[02:57] <twb> There's a fuse overlay that adds versioning, but IMO using etckeeper or git is better.
[02:57] <qman__> I could be mistaken but I thought it did
[02:57] <twb> Oh, and samba's shadow copy shit is SEXY
[02:57] <laptopfreek0_> and I paid extra for a board with raid in it :(
[02:57] <patdk-lap> laptopfreek0_, what is wrong with software raid?
[02:57] <patdk-lap> heh? you payed extra for fakeraid?
[02:58] <laptopfreek0_> yeah something like that.
[02:58] <laptopfreek0_> got a disc with windows only driver to setup raid
[02:58] <patdk-lap> heh
[02:58] <laptopfreek0_> figured zfs was a better option
[02:58] <qman__> unless you have a very expensive board, onboard raid controllers are fakeraid and worthless
[02:58] <patdk-lap> had two servers, they where suppost to have fakeraid on it, but they failed to set them up right
[02:58] <qman__> the only use for it is raid 0 on a windows desktop
[02:58] <patdk-lap> I did a scan, and both disks where totally inconsistant
[02:59] <patdk-lap> they reinstalled from rhel5 to rhel6, and fakeraid worked, but the servers where dog slow
[02:59] <patdk-lap> reinstalled with mdadm, and all is better
[02:59] <qman__> because it's really just software raid with a hack, and real software raid has far more options and compatibility
[02:59] <patdk-lap> qman, well, my real issue is the whole dm driver thing
[03:00] <patdk-lap> it caches writes, and does them all at once
[03:00] <patdk-lap> nothing like having a few thousand random writes queued up, and written all at once
[03:00] <patdk-lap> with iowait of 100% for several seconds
[03:00] <patdk-lap> where without it, it's sits at a nice 2% iowait, steady
[03:01] <patdk-lap> same thing happens when I use dm crypted disks
[03:01] <qman__> heh
[03:01] <qman__> but yeah, unless you need the checksumming, with only two disks you won't really see the advantages of zfs
[03:01] <qman__> and raid 1 will be faster
[03:01] <qman__> if speed is a concern
[03:03] <qman__> zfs is designed around data integrity and redundancy, aimed at keeping your data safe and accurate
[03:03] <qman__> and that all comes at a performance penalty
[03:03] <qman__> where raid 1 just writes everything to two disks
[03:04] <qman__> whether or not that's a problem depends entirely on your application
[03:10] <laptopfreek0_> twd: turns out it was SMB password synchronization, but how can I still authenticate samba passwords?
[03:14] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: because it is shipped with orchestra atm
[03:14] <twb> If you want my attention, you need to spell my name correctly.
[03:16] <laptopfreek0_> twb: sorry man lol
[03:16] <twb> laptopfreek0_: if you want to authenticate unix logins against samba, then I guess you need to make that work
[03:17] <laptopfreek0_> twb: no other way around it?
[03:17] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, well, clearly, but why did you do that
[03:18] <twb> laptopfreek0_: well, no.  If it doesn't work, then it won't work.
[03:19] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, no big deal, but something to fix for P
[03:19] <laptopfreek0_> twb: ok thanks guess I will just make a few users for samba, and not verify against unix logins. Thanks so much for your help man.
[03:21] <rcsheets> I don't actually know whether this is server-specific or not, as I don't have an oneiric desktop, but I see packages twice in aptitude.
[03:22] <rcsheets> so for instance i have just run aptitude in interactive mode and searched for ^apache2 and i see apache2-prefork-dev, apache2-prefork-dev, apache2-threaded-dev, apache2-threaded-dev, etc.
[03:22] <rcsheets> the duplicates seem to be the same version as one another
[03:23] <rcsheets> but the explanatory text in the bottom part of the window is different. the first instance of each package has a normal-looking description, but the second one just has the homepage URL.
[03:23] <rcsheets> or nothing at all
[03:23] <Guest38820> i was trying to set up openvpn, used the config that the ubuntu wiki said, and now networking won't start
[03:32] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah I guess I forgot to ship it with cobbler itself
[03:32] <RoAkSoAx> :)
[04:58] <twb> Whoa, lot of changes in ubuntu-lucid kernel repo in the last couple days
[04:59] <twb> I *think* they're only in master-next and therefore don't affect me, tho
[05:11] <kaushal> Hi
[05:13] <kaushal> In samba, path = /path/to/share/point so if i have /database as directory and user as sales whats the preferred read write and user and group ownership permission on /database
[05:34] <twb> kaushal: 2775?
[05:34] <twb> kaushal: it depends what you want
[05:34] <kaushal> ok
[05:36] <kaushal> twb: ok
[05:38] <kaushal> drwxrwsr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-10-18 06:26 /database/
[05:38] <kaushal> twb: so should it be sales:root ?
[05:38] <twb> Uh, setgid root is probably bad
[05:38] <kaushal> twb: my bad
[05:38] <twb> More like root:sales
[05:39] <twb> Or if the sales group has a division head Geoff, you might to do geoff:sales, but probably root:sales
[05:39] <kaushal> whats the most preferred bit ?
[05:39] <kaushal> you said < twb> kaushal: 2775 ?
[05:39] <twb> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Discretionary_access_control
[05:40] <twb> Hmm, that is not a very good reference.
[05:40] <kaushal> twb: what should be the ideal perms ?
[05:40] <twb> But you should go learn about POSIX DACs, since you clearly only know enough to be dangerous
[05:40] <twb> kaushal: again, it depends what you want
[05:41] <kaushal> twb: yeah
[05:41] <kaushal> but good practices
[05:41] <twb> kaushal: you can paraphrase the question as much as you like, the answer won't change.
[05:42] <kaushal> twb: Thanks
[08:14] <zapotah> running ubuntu server on esxi 5.0, i host game servers as a means to learn for my studies in networking etc. Im not too experienced with unix in general but i can handle the basics and a little more. I tried to use the vmxnet3 nic for the server but with it source dedicated servers wont show up in the master server list but directly connecting is possible. If someone connects manually i cant show the server info (from steam server list) and it 
[08:16] <ersi> Well, that's more of an ESXi issue than Ubuntu issue
[08:16] <zapotah> either a bug in ubuntu, the vmxnet3 driver module, in source dedi server or a configuration error that im unaware of
[08:16] <ersi> What version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:17] <zapotah> 11.04
[08:17] <ersi> And have you for some reason sat that NIC in ESXi to be 'NAT'? Or is it bridged?
[08:19] <zapotah> its bridged
[08:19] <ersi> alright, great
[08:20] <zapotah> directly connected to the vSwitch
[08:20] <zapotah> the problem persist with vms connected to the same vSwitch
[08:20] <ersi> and you're able to connect via SSH/remote or connect to your game serverd directly? (just making sure)
[08:21] <zapotah> yes
[08:22] <zapotah> its very odd really
[08:22] <ersi> If you'd run the 'iptables -L' command from one of the machines, do you get an output like this? http://dpaste.org/DrkP5/ (might want to do "sudo iptables -L" if you're logged on as regular user)
[08:23] <Patriot7912> Hello to all
[08:23] <zapotah> sec
[08:23] <ersi> sure
[08:24] <Patriot7912> I have major problems trying to get my Windows 7 machine connect to Ubuntu running domain logons
[08:24] <zapotah> its currently running with the e1000 so it works. have to change it back
[08:24] <ersi> well, iptables is the firewall
[08:25] <ersi> so that'd be the same output with or without that driver
[08:25] <ersi> but it works when you're using the e1000 driver?
[08:26] <zapotah> yes
[08:26] <zapotah> thats the odd part
[08:26] <zapotah> the vmxnet3 adapter would allow for lower latency
[08:26] <zapotah> (hosting game servers after all...)
[08:27] <ersi> And you're having latency issues? Or are you just making whiny gamers less obsessive about their numbers? :P
[08:27] <zapotah> im trying to figure out why the adapter doesnt work :D
[08:27]  * ersi remember his dial up days with 400ms playing Counter Strike
[08:27] <zapotah> :D
[08:27] <zapotah> out of professional curiosity
[08:27] <ersi> Worked fine, you whippersnappers!
[08:28] <ersi> Yeah :) Well, hm.
[08:28] <zapotah> but the iptables shows exactly like that
[08:28] <ersi> Are you changing the driver in the machine, or the NIC in ESXi?
[08:28] <zapotah> changing the nic in esxi
[08:28] <zapotah> which is done
[08:30] <ersi> Mind pasting the output of 'lspci' from the ubuntu machine to dpaste.org for me?
[08:30] <ersi> it'll list all PCI* "hardware" present
[08:31] <zapotah> the vmxnet3 adapter shows up correctly
[08:31] <zapotah> and no conflicts
[08:32] <ersi> do you have the vmware tools installed in the guest?
[08:32] <zapotah> yes and i forced it to upgrade the vmxnet3 module
[08:33] <ersi> Man, freggin' virtualised stuff
[08:33] <ersi> pain in the ass when something isn't working, and hard to tell what's up
[08:33] <zapotah> i know :D
[08:33] <zapotah> but its just so much more efficient
[08:33] <zapotah> and more secure
[08:34] <ersi> well, it's less efficient since some thing doesn't seem to work
[08:34] <zapotah> true :D
[08:34] <ersi> Tried the vmxnet2 one? Seems like there should be one of those available, maybe prior to ESXi 5.0 though..
[08:34] <koolhead17> hi all
[08:34] <zapotah> but if i figure it out ill be extremely satisfied
[08:34] <zapotah> ill try it
[08:35] <ersi> Not to be an ass, but I'm assuming this to be completely ESXi's fault :)
[08:35] <zapotah> im assuming it could be anything
[08:35] <zapotah> :D
[08:37] <zapotah> hmm
[08:37] <zapotah> dmesg says that it recognizes the link to be 10gbps
[08:38] <zapotah> but lshw -c network output says that the capacity is 1Gbit/s
[08:39] <zapotah> also in comparison the clock with vmxnet3 is 33Mhz and width 32 bits compared to 66Mhz and 64 bits with e1000
[09:33] <zapotah> i wonder if my own ip is g-lined from the freenode network O.o
[09:43] <lynxman> morning fellas o/
[09:47] <koolhead17> mornin lynxman :D
[09:47] <koolhead17> Daviey: hello
[10:07] <Daviey> hey koolhead17
[11:17] <jMCg> Has anyone seen something like this: http://dpaste.com/636491/ -- or know how to fix it? According to the bug report it's fixed in oneiric.. Well, this *is* oneiric.
[11:18] <jMCg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/155689/comments/16
[11:19] <jMCg> vs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/613273/comments/6
[12:29] <zapotah> after a ridiculous amount of work i can safely say that the problem does not lie in ubuntu
[12:29] <zapotah> either in linux kernel in general
[12:30] <zapotah> the vmxnet3 driver module, esxi, or vmxnet3 configuration
[12:33] <zapotah> is there a community irc channel for vmware stuff?
[12:45] <zul> good morning
[12:56] <jMCg> Is there any channel, medium or forum, other than the ones that have already exhausted me with silence, that would be better suited to help me get this running?
[13:00] <lynxman> zul: morning!
[13:04] <oly> hi, i am after some advice i have setup an email server with aliases i would like to be able to send out from an email client as an aliased user what do i need to change for this functionality ?
[13:04] <oly> anyone able to point me in the correct direction ?
[13:14] <koolhead17> oly: did you checked ubuntu server guide?
[13:15] <oly> nope, but i dont necessarily know what i am looking for
[13:15] <oly> is it aliases that allow this functionality ?
[13:15] <oly> not sure on the terminology of what i want
[13:16] <oly> i can see a drop down in evolution and roundcube which has a drop down to select who is ssending the email but they only have the current user
[13:25] <just-a-visitor> oly: Basically you need to set up the email client to connect the server with the non-aliased username, but send the aliased name as the „From:” field.
[13:25] <oly> so its client side software configuration, is there a name for this setup ?
[13:26] <oly> may help with my googles, so i can figure out how to setup webmail to use it
[13:30] <smoser> jdstrand, do you use indicator-multiload still ?
[13:30] <just-a-visitor> oly: It happens when you create a mailbox in your mail client software. See the 2nd screenshot (http://mozilla.gunnars.net/thunderbird_mail_setup.html), there goes the alias user name, and on the 4th the original user name. (This is for Mozilla Thunderbird, but all clients should provide the same settings.)
[13:31] <smoser> jdstrand, wondering specifically if you see bug 877420.
[13:33] <jdstrand> smoser: I do, but I don't see that bug
[13:33] <hallyn> jdstrand, hey, just wondering - i was looking at syncing virt-viewer.  I see there are 3 ubuntu-specific patches.  Was there a reason not to send those to debian?
[13:34] <jdstrand> smoser: I have 0.2-0ubuntu1
[13:34] <jdstrand> hallyn: probably not, let me see
[13:36] <hallyn> well, i see they went upstream
[13:36] <hallyn> (but aren't yet in the sid package)
[13:37] <jdstrand> hallyn: I see no reason why those should not be in Debian
[13:37] <jdstrand> not sure why I didn't submittodebian
[13:37] <hallyn> jdstrand, ok, thanks, i'll
[13:37] <hallyn> hm.  submittodebian.  never tried that
[13:38] <hallyn> i always do it by hand
[13:38] <jdstrand> I still have that source here
[13:38] <jdstrand> I can submit it now
[13:38] <jdstrand> hallyn: ah, it is really handy. it will add all the tags, etc for you
[13:39] <hallyn> jdstrand, cool, thanks
[13:39] <hallyn> (i'll try it out next time i have need :)
[13:44] <jdstrand> hallyn: submitted
[13:45] <hallyn> jdstrand, awesome, thanks.  testing the sync from debian meanwhile.  it appears the already fix the bug i was going to start out fixing this morning
[13:45] <jdstrand> cool
[13:48] <oly> just-a-visitor, hum not sure thats quite right what about mulitiple aliases
[13:49] <oly> what if i wanted to select oly@example.com olymk2@example.com or firstname.surname @example.com
[13:52] <just-a-visitor> oly: You should create 3 accounts with these alias email addresses, but all of them login the server as the original user name.
[13:52] <Ursinha> Daviey, hello
[13:56] <oly> oh okay, not ideal thought you would just be able to use the drop down box to select,
[13:56] <oly> thanks anyway just-a-visitor, something i can work with anyway
[13:58] <martian> I have a samba share mounted with cifs via my fstab, and for some reason all files are showing up with the execute bit set. Why?
[13:58] <just-a-visitor> oly: You're welcome! I am sorry, that I cannot help you more, but I am not using your email clients.
[13:59] <oly> no problem, i wish i could use thunderbird but unfortunately its missing functionality i need :(
[14:01] <madwill> hi can anybody help out on creating a ssl key
[14:01] <Daviey> Ursinha: heya
[14:02] <madwill> i bought a certificate on goDaddy and follow the instruction but at the moment to create the CSR file its always empty
[14:02] <Ursinha> Daviey, busy>
[14:02] <Ursinha> ?
[14:02] <Daviey> Ursinha: nope, never am :)
[14:02] <Ursinha> haha yeah right
[14:03] <Ursinha> Daviey, what time is server meeting today? in two hours?
[14:05] <Ursinha> Daviey, I'll grab a cup of tea and then can we talk?
[14:05] <Daviey> Ursinha: sounds good!
[14:13] <hallyn> jdstrand, seems i don't have permissions.  Do you mind sponsoring http://people.canonical.com/~serge/virt-viewer-sync.debdiff ?
[14:13] <hallyn> then we can mark bug 871847 fix released and sru it
[14:17] <jdstrand> hallyn: sure
[14:34] <jdstrand> hallyn: ok, looks good. I added the LP reference to the changelog
[14:34] <Der-Sebo> hello
[14:34] <Der-Sebo> have a problem with sieve
[14:34] <jdstrand> hallyn: the added '0' is slightly odd, but fine. I'd prefer starting with 9000 or something, but am uploading as is
[14:35] <hallyn> jdstrand, thx, i wasn't sure where i should do that.  will see how you phrased it
[14:35] <Der-Sebo> want to filter emails with seive
[14:35] <hallyn> jdstrand, hm, 9000 would be better
[14:35] <hallyn> ls would output inthe right order
[14:35] <Der-Sebo> the tag received
[14:35] <jdstrand> hallyn: I can fix if you prefer
[14:35] <hallyn> jdstrand, that'd be great, thanks
[14:35] <Der-Sebo> but need the first one and sieve search in the last one
[14:36] <hallyn> jdstrand, so i wonder if, for the sru, we should take the patch from the merge, or the original (much simpler, imo) patch from the bug report which also works
[14:37] <jdstrand> hallyn: the merge probably, since that is presumably what is being submitted upstream
[14:38] <hallyn> yeah, i'm testing it right now to make sure it still applies and works there
[14:42] <Der-Sebo> i want to filter mail with sieve, looking for the mailaddy in the received tag but sieve search in the last one and i need the first received tag
[14:47] <fixxxermet> Can anyone recommend a tool to monitor a Hewlett-Packard Company Smart Array G6 controller?
[14:47] <fixxxermet> Something similart to smartd / smartctl, for example.
[14:48] <jdstrand> hallyn: uploaded
[14:48] <hallyn> jdstrand, great, thanks.  The newer patch works fine, yay.
[14:49] <jdstrand> \o/
[14:55] <zul> hallyn: where is test-libvirt.py again?
[14:55] <hallyn> zul, bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/qa-regression-testing/
[14:55] <hallyn> uh, 'lp:qa-regression-testing' will do
[14:55] <hallyn> under scripts/test-libvirt.py
[14:56] <hallyn> jdstrand, do you mind also pushing the oneiric-proposed fix from http://people.canonical.com/~serge/virt-viewer-port0.debdiff ?  (SRU justification completed inthe bug report)
[14:57] <zul> hallyn: thanks
[15:19] <zul> so who wants the pain of reviewing the libvirt merge...
[15:19] <zul> i mean who wants to review libvirt for me
[15:20] <Daviey> hallyn: ^^ ?
[15:20] <hallyn> of course
[15:22] <zul> hallyn: gimme a sec
[15:24] <hallyn> no hurry
[15:24] <hallyn> hell can wait
[15:26] <robbiew> Daviey: do we want to retarget https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-drop-vmbuilder to Precise, or forget about the POSTPONED items
[15:28] <zul> hallyn: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/libvirt
[15:33] <Daviey> robbiew: I would suggest, if mvo wants to have another look at [mvo] move do-release-upgrade build/testing to live-build: POSTPONED , then we re-vist, otherwise just not push it further.
[15:35] <robbiew> Daviey: /me defers :)
[15:36] <Daviey> I hate samba.
[15:37] <w00> I'm starting too, even though i don't use it.. but it spams this chan so it's enough for me :]
[15:42] <hallyn> zul, (looking)  it passes the tests?
[15:42] <zul> i have run the tests yet i have been using it this morning thuogh
[15:42] <hallyn> ok
[15:42] <hallyn> (I'll run them later today)
[15:45] <hallyn> jinkeys
[15:45] <hallyn> serge@sergelap:~$ aptitude search libpcap
[15:45] <hallyn> Segmentation fault
[15:46] <hallyn> dieson TIOCGWINSZ ioctl
[15:50] <jdpond> Is this worth reporting again (dhclient file pointed to in ifup doesn't exist), causing a lease file not found log 11.10.         http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11362275&postcount=7
[15:54] <kaje> I've installed Ubuntu 11.10 and when it boots, I get an error no such device, with what looks like a UUID. It then provides a grub terminal. I booted from a live cd and discovered that my root disk has a different UUID than what grub is complaining about when I do a normal boot. How can I change the UUID that grub is looking for at boot?
[15:56] <hallyn> zul, one little note - you used the oneiric libvirt-bin, not precise's.
[15:56] <zul> hallyn: eh?
[15:57] <hallyn> so you're missing the fix for bug#863629 which is only in 0.9.2-4ubuntu16
[15:57] <hallyn> (and not yet upstream)
[15:58] <kpettit> kaje, it looks like you need to change /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:59] <zul> hallyn: crap...ill fix that
[15:59] <hallyn> thx, no biggie :)  and a rarely found bug
[15:59] <SpamapS> server team meeting time. :)
[16:01] <robbiew> o/
[16:04] <kaje> reinstalling grub fixed my problem.
[16:17] <hallyn> zul: libvirt won't start for me
[16:17] <hallyn> libvirt-bin start/running, process 3409
[16:17] <hallyn> .: 37: Can't open @bindir@/gettext.sh
[16:17] <hallyn> i'll look at it later
[16:17] <zul> hallyn: dnsmasq running?
[16:18] <hallyn> root@stack:~# ps -ef | grep dnsmasq
[16:18] <hallyn> nobody    1502     1  0 11:00 ?        00:00:00 dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/default.pid --conf-file= --except-interface lo --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254 --dhcp-leasefile=/var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.leases --dhcp-lease-max=253 --dhcp-no-override
[16:19] <hallyn> (i did update, not fresh install)
[16:29] <zul> hallyn: its something to do with dnsmasq i killed it and restarted and it worked fine
[16:33] <hallyn> zul, well I assume it's this one:  ./tools/libvirt-guests.init.sh:37:
[16:33] <hallyn> but i don't know where that lives
[16:34] <zul> weird
[16:34] <hallyn> /etc/default/libvirt-guests
[16:34] <hallyn> o
[16:34] <hallyn> no
[16:35] <hallyn> /etc/init.d/libvirt-guests!
[16:35] <zul> ah..
[16:35] <zul> so we have to do a libvirt-guests upstart script now?
[16:35] <hallyn> depends on what that script does :)
[16:36] <zul> libvirt-bin.libvirt-guests.init
[16:36] <hallyn> that or delete it
[16:36] <zul> "# description:  This is a script for suspending active libvirt guests \
[16:36] <zul> #               on shutdown and resuming them on next boot \
[16:36] <zul> #               See http://libvirt.org
[16:36] <zul> "
[16:36] <Daviey> zul: python-xattr is calling for you.
[16:36] <zul> Daviey: i bet :)
[16:37] <Daviey> lynxman: did you submittodebian bug 838959 ?
[16:38] <lynxman> Daviey: not yet, will do later today
[16:38] <Daviey> lynxman: please do.. thanks :)
[16:39] <lynxman> Daviey: sir yes sir
[16:39] <SpamapS> wow, the meetingology bot is so much better
[16:39] <SpamapS> minuts done in 9 minutes
[16:39] <Daviey> SpamapS: make sure you buy AlanBell a beer.
[16:41] <hallyn> zul, so presuming we will upstartify the libvirt-guests.init script, then we can pull some code out of libvirt-bin.upstart
[16:41] <zul> hallyn: right
[16:42] <hallyn> zul, frankly i'm thinking we might jsut drop that file for now, and discuss at uds how to bes thandle it
[16:42] <hallyn> with SpamapS and hopefully jdstrand in the room
[16:43] <zul> hallyn: fine with me...
[16:43] <hallyn> The one thing that script adds is the ability to suspend/resume the VMs.  Might be worthwhile
[16:43] <zul> but we dont need SpamapS ;)
[16:43] <hallyn> :)
[16:43] <_spt_> Hi folks, Could someone point me to a script I can rn at a set time to turn off the server? The mobo has a powerup timer on it but i could do with a powerdown at a set time -  thanks in advance
[16:47] <hallyn> zul, also every virsh command, while it succeeds, starts by printing out
[16:47] <hallyn> WARNING: no socket to connect to
[16:48]  * jdstrand would be happy to attend the libvirt session(s). I may not have a lot to offer on that particular topic however
[16:50] <RoyK> _spt_: simply add a cron job running 'halt' at that time
[16:50] <RoyK> !cron
[16:50] <_spt_> that simple? - thanks!
[16:51] <RoyK> that simple :)
[16:51] <_spt_> cheers !
[16:53] <hallyn> SpamapS, now you're just showing off!  (re meeting minutes :)
[16:55] <Ursinha> Daviey, so it seems launchpad is working to request sync packages right now
[16:58] <Daviey> Ursinha: yes, but you cannot do it.  Unless i am mistaken?
[16:59] <Ursinha> Daviey, I'm not sure, probably not, but I recall you saying it was mostly for experimental stuff, so I came here to tell you :)
[17:00] <Daviey> Ursinha: Yes, i said that you cannot request a sponsored sync'd at the moment
[17:01] <hallyn> zul: (qa regression tests are running over here)
[17:01] <Daviey> I don't yet trust +localpackagediffs for my sync's TBH
[17:02] <Daviey> The beta tag alone is enough to make me run, let alone the mess it created last cycle.
[17:02] <Ursinha> Daviey, why is that?
[17:02] <Ursinha> mess?
[17:02] <Ursinha> I didn't know about that
[17:02] <Daviey> Ursinha: There was an accidental mass-sync when it was being tested late in Oneiric cycle.
[17:03] <Ursinha> mother of god
[17:03] <Daviey> (javascript issue)
[17:03] <Ursinha> "I not always test my code... but when I do, I do it in production" ?
[17:04] <Ursinha> http://goo.gl/CDn0u
[17:05] <Daviey> :)
[17:10] <zul> hallyn: cool beans
[17:10] <zul> Ursinha: its the devops way
[17:10] <hallyn> zul, we need to fix that WARNING msg though
[17:10] <hallyn> hmm, 44 failures
[17:10] <hallyn> probably something in my setup.  re-running to debug
[17:11] <Ursinha> zul, haha
[17:12] <RoyK> http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/
[17:22] <hallyn> zul, hm, looks like the socket msg might be due to gnome-keyring
[17:27] <hallyn> p11kit really.  presumably if i log into x it'll go away.
[17:28] <RoyK> A lot of this info really should go into the ubuntu raid howto ... http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software
[17:28]  * RoyK starts picking pieces
[17:29] <RoyK> or into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID, even
[18:14] <_ruben> "weird" .. i get this when doing a do-release-upgrade on a natty box: Your graphics hardware may not be fully supported in Ubuntu 11.04.
[18:14] <_ruben> so while upgrading to 11.10, it warns about possible issues with 11.04 :p
[18:15] <RoyK> heh - probably just a bug
[18:15] <_ruben> the question that arises: is it 11.04, 11.10 or both that might have issues :)
[18:15] <koolhead17> _ruben: lol
[18:18] <Pici> Make sure to read the release notes just in case.
[18:18] <Pici> !notes
[18:23] <drahst> does anyone know where the best resource for kvm/qemu is?
[18:25] <drahst> I'm trying to get virtual servers up and running and optimized... while I can use vmm to create a virtual or even clone one, I do not believe that it's using virtio for disk access nor do I know how to make sure that it installs onto a pre-allocated disk image
[18:26] <akio> Do the vnet interfaces for vms add back to their respective bridges automatically after network restart? I expect this and it isn't happening. Wondering what went wrong.
[18:27] <akio> drahst: log in to the vmhost and do a virsh dumpxml on your vm name
[18:27] <akio> The settings are clear in xml.
[18:28] <drahst> yeah... I see that it's using "ide" drives
[18:28] <drahst> how do you install to a pre-allocated image
[18:28] <akio> THat may just be for the virtual cdrom.
[18:28] <akio> Should be able to just attach the image and boot it.
[18:30] <drahst> I guess I don't understand
[18:31] <drahst> I read that using qcow2 with meta preallocation is the way to go on drives for reduced I/O
[18:31] <drahst> but I can't figure out how to make vmbuilder or virt-install use that preallocated file for the machine's drive
[18:34] <RoyK> anyone that knows what might be disabling cores on ubuntu natty+ on amd systems?
[18:35] <sticht> you mean you can't see all cores in /proc/cpuinfo?
[18:35] <RoyK> or in htop
[18:36] <RoyK> guy I knew complained about it
[18:36] <RoyK> s/knew/know/
[18:36] <drahst> hrm... how do you add the bridges you create from your host O/S to the network piece of VMM?
[18:37] <RoyK> drahst: just plain bridging as in use with kvm or something?
[18:37] <sticht> maybe it's a virtual machine which only has a few cores assigned?
[18:37] <RoyK> sticht: physical machine
[18:38] <akio> drahst: you dont
[18:38] <drahst> yeah
[18:38] <sticht> no idea if it is a physical machine. BIOS?
[18:38] <drahst> I've got two bridges on the host OS
[18:38] <akio> drahst: and the virt-clone is what you are looking for i think
[18:39] <drahst> the guest operating systems have to be reachable by the network
[18:39] <akio> brctl addif bridgename vnetname
[18:39] <drahst> so I had to create br0 and br1
[18:39] <akio> libvirt doesn't handle what you are doing
[18:39] <akio> brctl addif br0 vnet1
[18:39] <akio> brctl show will show the connected interfaces and bridges
[18:40] <RoyK> akio: http://pastebin.com/HBtVpywi
[18:40] <RoyK> that's my config
[18:40] <RoyK> works like a charm
[18:41] <akio> RoyK: You don't actually have to assign an ip to the eth0 interface, you can do iface inet manual
[18:42] <RoyK> you don't need one
[18:42] <RoyK> I know - that was just pasted from an old config - I was in a hurry
[18:53] <zul> RoakSoAx: ping once im done with this merge im going to start pushing cobbler patches backup stream
[18:56] <RoyK> bug 873198
[19:30] <boxybrown> anyone here a pxeboot + preseed expert?
[19:32] <_ruben> expert, no .. got it up and running, yes
[19:33] <elz89> yeah, same. I think we have all messed with pixies at one point or another :-P
[19:35] <boxybrown> Is there a way to add ppa repositories in a preseed file?
[19:36] <boxybrown> I want a specific package available in a ppa installed on the machines, but I can't figure out if its possible to get the package from a ppa
[19:50] <t3_> Greetings. I'm having a problem with KVM in 2.6.38-11-server and was wondering what problems I might run into if I use 2.6.38-12-generic (bug seems to be fixed there)? I'm using standard HW...
[19:55] <RoAkSoAx> zul: alright
[19:56]  * Daviey ^5's zul for samba merge
[20:05] <boxybrown> any ideas? adding ppas to preseed?
[20:18] <zul> RoakSoAx: we should be able to drop intrepid and jaunty as well dont you think?
[20:22] <RoyK> zul: aren't they both non-supported along with karmic?
[20:23] <zul> RoyK: yes thats the point
[20:23] <smoser> mdeslaur, http://mdeslaur.blogspot.com/
[20:24] <smoser> what do i search for to know that i'll get a disk with "FDE" per thinkpad
[20:24] <smoser> if i search for fde or encrypted on newegg, results are almost none.
[20:24] <RoyK> smoser: server on a thinkpad? ;)
[20:24] <smoser> in a thinkpad.
[20:24] <mdeslaur> smoser: http://www.hitachigst.com/internal-drives/self-encrypting-drives/
[20:24] <smoser> :) yes, bad channel.
[20:25] <mdeslaur> smoser: those are the models hitachi has
[20:25] <smoser> so yeah, those are good, and i found one, but surely there are others, right?
[20:25] <smoser> i was looking for some term that would appear in a search.
[20:25] <mdeslaur> smoser: each manufacturer calls it something different
[20:25] <mdeslaur> smoser: what manufacturer/model came with your thinkpad?
[20:26] <smoser> WD3200BEVS-0
[20:29] <RoAkSoAx> zul: yeah
[20:29] <RoAkSoAx> zul: add prestige though
[20:30] <zul> precise you mean
[20:30] <zul> to be precise
[20:30] <Ursinha> hahahaha
[20:30] <mdeslaur> smoser: huh, doesn't even look like WD has disks that support encryption
[20:31] <mdeslaur> smoser: intel just says certain models of their SSDs support "AES 128"
[20:32] <mdeslaur> smoser: "FDE" is supposed to be the term
[20:32] <smoser> yeah.
[20:32] <smoser> seagate uses that.
[20:33] <RoAkSoAx> zul: err yeah precise lol
[20:33]  * zul has been waiting to use that joke
[20:34]  * RoAkSoAx has had a long weekend
[20:34] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[20:36] <mdeslaur> smoser: HTS725050A9A361 is what I have, fwiw
[20:44] <RoyK> that linux scrub thing should go into the ubuntu raid howto
[20:45] <RoyK> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software#Write-intent_bitmap
[20:45] <RoyK> some info there
[20:45] <RoyK> I'll do some writing about it unless anyone else bothers :P
[20:50] <smoser> mdeslaur, thanks.
[20:56] <Daviey> soren: Can python-eventlet be sync'd ?
[21:01] <veganadian> anyone have experience with hot-plugging SATA drives ?  when i do this ---------> echo "1" > /sys/block/sdb/device/delete <------- i get "ata3.00: disabled" and the drive spins down as it should, then i can remove it.   but when i put it back in the same port/bay , if i rescan with rescan-scsi-bus.sh, the system will lock up and be unresponsive.  so my question is this... is it possible to enable a down S
[21:02] <veganadian> ATA port ?
[21:04] <soren> Daviey: Yes.
[21:04] <soren> Go for it.
[21:11] <genii-around> veganadian: Have you tried with sdparm ?
[21:13] <veganadian> genii-around, yeah, but sdb isn't addressable, since the port is off.
[21:13] <veganadian> there's a "add-single-device" subsystem that i'm going to try.
[21:14] <RoyK> http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/311464_2089470886934_1550084836_31928395_1228695533_n.jpg
[21:16] <veganadian> oooh baby.  :)  echo "scsi add-single-device 2 0 0 0" > /proc/scsi/sci
[21:17] <veganadian> and replace "add" with "remove" if you want to remove.  works like a charm.