[13:46] <popolon> hi
[13:46] <popolon> there is a problem between xfce and french keyboard
[13:48] <popolon> I can't use composed (two keys) accents or the compose key in 11.10
[13:49] <popolon> I believe I had the same problem with ubuntu 10.10 when I tested xfce and ldxe, the bug was only on xfce
[16:22] <fr-z> does anyone knows whats the best driver for a 9600 gt nvidia? on thr adicional drivers i see  version 173, version current and experimental 3d support
[18:49] <raven> hi
[18:49] <raven> which hardware/settings is necessary to have no xruns on low latency <32ms?
[18:50] <holstein> raven: hmmm... if you are at that setting, i say bump it up more
[18:50] <holstein> til you have none
[18:50] <holstein> anything over 15 is not going to be suitable for live effects or live synth instruments
[18:50] <holstein> so, just go for 80ms
[18:51] <holstein> other than that, you can try a different kernel
[18:51] <holstein> i suggest...
[18:51] <raven> holstein, that is my problem - i want to do live things
[18:51] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[18:51] <holstein> raven: right, and you cant at 32
[18:51] <holstein> you need around 10
[18:51] <raven> holstein, difficult right
[18:51] <holstein> so, if you want that, i say you'll need to get some gear
[18:52] <holstein> you can visit #opensourcemusicians and ask what gear gets what latency
[18:52] <raven> but which factors cause that at 64 ms too xruns distort recordings at random times?
[18:52] <holstein> i can get 1.2ms with my firepod
[18:52] <holstein> though, i usually run it as like 60ms for stability and speed when mixing
[18:53] <holstein> raven: well, if its an internal sound card, who knows
[18:53] <holstein> it could be *not* software related
[18:53] <holstein> but just the way that hardware is going to perform
[18:53] <raven> holstein, no its external semi professional
[18:53] <holstein> USB ?
[18:53] <raven> yes
[18:53] <holstein> i dont have good luck with USB
[18:53] <raven> on own port
[18:54] <holstein> yeah
[18:54] <holstein> doesnt seem to matter to me
[18:54] <holstein> i have a tascam 122 something that i can get around 5ms stable
[18:54] <holstein> other than that, who knows
[18:54] <holstein> raven: you can look at the irq settings
[18:55] <holstein> and try and get the USB on its own address in the bios if possible
[18:55] <raven> holstein, i have a us144 - and still no drivers......
[18:55] <holstein> sure
[18:56] <raven> but its an extra soundcard with my mixer
[18:56] <holstein> and tascam wont
[18:56] <holstein> maybe get the wallet out and get something RME
[18:56] <raven> rme?
[19:04] <holstein> RME supports linux very well
[19:04] <holstein> typically
[19:05] <holstein> http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products.php
[19:26] <raven> and expensive.....
[19:31] <holstein> ?
[19:31] <holstein> it works though
[19:31] <holstein> and typically way better quality
[19:31] <holstein> anyways... im out for a bit... BBL
[19:35] <raven> holstein, no change with the newest rt kernel
[20:25] <Lehthanis> hello!  Anyone here?
[20:49] <holstein> Lehthanis: ?
[20:50] <Lehthanis> heya!
[20:50] <Lehthanis> I got jackd working via terminal...but QjackCtl won't start it.
[20:50] <holstein> yeah, i have a USB device like that
[20:50] <holstein> i wouldnt sweat it
[20:50] <Lehthanis> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[20:50] <holstein> you can still use the 'connect' part of qjack if you want
[20:51] <holstein> or, some other connection manager
[20:51] <holstein> choose your battles
[20:51] <Lehthanis> yeah if I run it in the terminal, I can start up QjackCtl and it recognizes it
[20:51] <holstein> if you can get JACK running, i say go for it
[20:51] <holstein> Lehthanis: right
[20:51] <holstein> just do that
[20:51] <holstein> thats what i do
[20:51] <holstein> didnt even think twice about it
[20:51] <Lehthanis> heh, I like that...choose your battles
[20:51] <holstein> well, with that particular hardware, i should say
[20:52] <Lehthanis> gotcha.
[20:52] <holstein> with most everything else, qjack works as expected
[20:52] <Lehthanis> I do believe this laptop is going to be a learning platform for me...I may end up installing UbuntuSTudio on the church desktop...older hardware, but its got an audigy in it
[20:52] <Lehthanis> I'll probably have a much less stressful experience
[20:53] <holstein> the SB's are usually supported, though low-end
[20:53] <holstein> i should say, low-end for getting audio *into* the computer
[20:54] <Lehthanis> yeah...what's a good "cheapish" option for getting sound into a laptop?
[20:54] <holstein> well, i have tiers of suggestions
[20:55] <holstein> these http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx are usually like $30US
[20:55] <holstein> nice clean stereo in with decent latency and good support
[20:55] <holstein> you pair that with a mixer like http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/802.aspx and you got a rig thats under $100, but clean and versatile
[20:56] <holstein> and you'll always use that mixer for something in the future, if you end up replacing it
[20:56] <holstein> or... something like http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/products/handheld-audio-recorders/h4/
[20:56] <Lehthanis> we already have a yamaha emx 5000-20 mixer ;) so mixing is the easy part
[20:56] <holstein> more like $300
[20:57] <holstein> better preamps
[20:57] <holstein> nice built-in mics
[20:57] <holstein> stand alone mode
[20:58] <holstein> OR, something like what i got which is a presonus firepod
[20:58] <holstein> http://www.focusrite.com/products/audio_interfaces/saffire_pro_40/
[20:58] <holstein> really depends on what you want to do
[20:58] <holstein> how many channels, and whatever gear you already got
[20:59] <Lehthanis> I think that UCA202 would be perfect...I take it there's ubuntu drivers for it?
[21:01] <holstein> Lehthanis: ?
[21:01] <holstein> theres ALSA drivers that work with it
[21:01] <holstein> ubuntu doesnt make drivers
[21:01] <Lehthanis> thats what I meant
[21:01] <holstein> they include whatever is in the kernel
[21:03] <Lehthanis> well, I'm off for dinner...thanks for the help and advice
[22:18] <naptastic> Hi, I just made the terrible mistake of installing Ubuntu 11.10 and wonder if I can recover more easily by installing Ubuntu Studio or if I should just compile everything myself like I normally do.
[22:18] <naptastic> What version of Ardour is packaged?
[22:19] <naptastic> What version of Jackd? How is it configured?
[23:00] <funkyHat> !info ardour
[23:00] <funkyHat> !info jackd
[23:00] <funkyHat> !info jackd2
[23:05] <naptastic> funkyHat, thank you!
[23:08] <funkyHat> naptastic: no problem ⢁)