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jmcantrellwhat do i have to do to get ssh-agent working?00:26
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w30Where is the calendar at in xubuntu?00:49
lordjjoffice00:50
drcorange00:50
lordjj*orage00:50
drcorage (no n)00:50
lordjj:P00:50
drcdouble click on the clock and it should open orage00:51
lordjj0_o00:52
lordjjwhat server caught fire?00:52
drccan't be mine. it's not fast enough00:53
w30orage it is00:55
lordjjis it just me, or are big chunks of users spontaneously reconnecting00:56
lorin`mm, well for me it's been all the rebooting. looks good now though!00:57
Unit193!netsplit | lordjj00:58
ubottulordjj: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:58
lilzadhi01:04
lilzadcan some1 help me please?01:04
x_how do I change default file manager?01:18
jmcantrelli tried out some screensavers and now my monitor never goes to sleep. anyone have any ideas?01:26
william12x_: what file manager do u have and what file manager do u want to use?01:55
jmcantrellssh-agent? anyone?02:07
jmcantrellhello?02:18
jmcantrelldoes anyone use ssh-agent in xubuntu?02:22
zusi downloaded and installed miro via synaptic package manager and it's asking to upgrade my adobe flash plugin, i checked with synaptic it appears im running the lastest 11.1.5  i believe02:24
zusonly in miro it's asking, youtube and everything else is working fine02:25
joshua__hello02:36
zusanyone using  miro? im still getting the  upgrade  flash player when on the  hulu and youtube tabs.02:45
joshua__hello02:49
joshua__...02:56
h213hin version 11.10 does thunar still support sftp logins from location?02:58
zusMiro - 4.0.3. is asking for flash 10.0.32 or higher, for the hulu link and youtube link is asking to up grade... now i have the latest flash player. already03:19
yashyCan someone help me no sound on xubuntu 11.10? http://pastebin.com/AY5e5ABq03:49
yashywith full details from the ubuntu sound trouble shooting guide: http://pastebin.com/H8Dd8LVK03:49
yashyIn alsamixer, after first reboot: default soundcard was empty, I chose my soundcard, and it's working now. Just an FYI in case it comes up again with someone else.03:52
Guest17188hi all, i fresh installed xubuntu 11.10 for the first time and installed all updates. only one problem that i have, on restart it freezes, but on shutdown it works perfect.03:52
Guest17188my comp toshiba satellite a66503:53
yashyAt which point on restart?03:55
yashyCan you watch the logs just before that point? (tail -f /var/log/messages)03:55
Guest17188i'd say half way03:56
Guest17188what can i do in terminal to get it?03:56
Guest17188no logs on screen, seems like just before that point.03:57
Guest17188i tried this in terminal with no results  "tail -f /var/log/messages"03:59
Guest17188im noob by the way.   =)03:59
Guest17188i went into system/var/log but no messages file/folder04:10
yashyCan you boot into single user mode?04:19
Guest17188how is that done04:20
Guest17188i created only one account when installing.04:22
Guest17188i got to run... thnx for try yashy04:39
jmcantrelldoes anyone use ssh-agent?05:00
TriumphOfDeathHello there, A little help, somebody help me, I found this page with xfce plugins: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin but I don't have idea how to install it..  :D05:09
well_laid_lawn!info xfce4-goodies05:10
ubottuxfce4-goodies (source: xfce4-goodies): enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.8.1 (oneiric), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB05:10
TriumphOfDeathnice trick !05:11
well_laid_lawncheers05:15
TriumphOfDeathwell_laid_lawn: hello -> I had already installed, but I can't see it... do you know where is it?.. also, thks for your help :D05:18
well_laid_lawnTriumphOfDeath: right click a panel and add the keyboard plugin05:19
TriumphOfDeathwell_laid_lawn: my apologies isn't the SO, is the user who is a dummy.. omg thks!05:20
TriumphOfDeath:D05:20
well_laid_lawncheers05:20
well_laid_lawn:)05:21
cjsWhat display manager does xubuntu normally use for login?07:22
Unit193LightDM for Oneiric and up, GDM for Natty and less07:23
helino_hi guys, I downloaded Xubuntu 10.10 today, thanks for a great release! However, 2 of the download links on http://xubuntu.org/getubuntu#oneiric points to the wrong version07:32
helino_The link "Germany" under "Xubuntu mirrors" points to 11.04, and the first "United Kingdom" also points to 11.0407:33
TheSheephelino_: can you please report a bug?07:33
TheSheephelino_: then it will get to the right people07:34
helino_TheSheep: sure, where do I do that?07:34
TheSheep!bugs07:34
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.07:34
helino_TheSheep: thanks, I'll do it07:34
TheSheephelino_: the "package" would be "xubuntu website"07:35
TheSheephelino_: thank you07:35
helino_TheSheep: ok, np07:36
Unit193helino_: Or click here ;)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+filebug07:37
helino_Unit193: thanks, that was easier, I got constantly redirected to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs which told me to use 'ubuntu-bug'07:38
helino_ok, the bug is reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/877183, thanks for your help!07:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 877183 in Xubuntu Website "Download links points to wrong version" [Undecided,New]07:44
cjsUnit193: Grr. Both of those insist on showing you the names of all the users on the system.07:47
Unit193cjs: Those are default, you can always go with Slim, LXDM or others (You also might be able to disable that listing)07:48
TheSheepcjs: afair you can disable the listing of names07:49
cjsNot in gdm on 11.10. (You could on 11.04. Not on 10.10. Yes on 10.04. And so on. See, "Why I am trying to stop using gnome.")07:50
cjsMaybe I'm wrong about lightdm, though.07:50
cjsBut my freaking lightdm is very unhappy, it just keeps blinking the text screen into graphics mode and back again. This is on a lubuntu install where I've done an "aptitude install xubuntu-desktop". gdm worked ok, as did lxdm (aside from bugs in lxdm itself that won't let it start my desktop).07:52
Unit193Edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf   greeter-hide-users=true   allow-guest=false  (Note that I am not on Oneiric to check)07:52
cjsAs I recall, last time I did that, hiding the guest login worked, but hiding users did not.07:55
cjsHey, Xubuntu has the best panel clock so far! :-)07:58
cjsHm. So someone here just asked me why I use a session manager, and I just realized.....08:05
cjs...to use the "guest login" switching functionality from the standard Ubuntu Gnome desktop. But Xfce doesn't have this?08:07
cjsNo way to do that in XUbuntu?08:13
cjsMaybe I really don't need the whole Xfce environment, just the panel. What else might I lose by not using the full Xfce environment, if I don't need a file manager or other pointy-clicky-stuff? Anything related to communications between programs and so on?08:23
cjsHm. Looks like I lose suspend and hibernate.08:23
reoncjs, you could always go with openbox + tint2 panel. Crunchbang has a nice logout, reboot, shutdown, suspend, hibernate dialog you could copy. You can also implement those features via key bindings.08:43
cjsI thought that Openbox was a window manager.08:45
reoncjs, yes it.08:46
cjsBut I already have a window manager (fvwm).08:47
cjsIt seems to be the session mananger that lets you invoke suspend or hibernate, though. Or something that was missing when I booted up with a straight fvwm environment rather than fvwm over Gnome or Xfce.08:48
cjs(And Ubuntu seems to have no interest in fixing that you can no longer do it from the command line using pmi. That's been broken for ages.)08:48
reoncjs, from your described needs it sonds like you could ditch xfce entirely. Or install openbox, tint2 etc to test and change your session at loging to openbox. It does require some manual configing though.08:49
reoncjs, sorry, I see now you are using fvwm08:50
reonso why do you need xubuntu?08:50
cjsreon: That's my question! :-)08:52
cjsI definitely need a panel. Oh, notifications would be nice, too.08:53
reoncjs, I had the exact same problem with lightdm yuo are having switching between text&gfx08:53
reongot it fixed though08:54
cjsI have the feeling that just logging in to a slightly customized Xfce session (with the desktop manager and file manager removed, and the window manager replaced with fvwm) is probably the easiest way to have "modern" stuff work nicely. That's what I was doing with the Gnome environment, until Gnome kicked me in the butt one too many times.08:55
cjsreon: How did you fix it?08:55
reonsudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop lightdm08:56
reonthen I manually deleted all the lightdm config folder, deleted my xfce config folder08:57
reonfollowed by sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop08:57
reonsorry I also removed purged xubuntu-default-settings with the other stuff08:58
reonlastly I --reinstalled xubuntu-default-settings08:59
reonit worked after that. Just check the lightdm config file is not using the unity greeter but the gtk one instead and the session must be xubuntu08:59
reonit was a ball ache though as it only worked in a specific sequeence09:00
cjsHm. Wow.09:00
cjsWell, I just did something kinda like that, and it seemed to work.09:01
cjsFunny, my lightdm/lightdm.conf says greeter-session=unity-greeter, though.09:02
cjsUnit193: What section of lightdm.conf does the greeter-hide-users=true   allow-guest=false stuff go in to?09:02
cjs[SeatDefaults]?09:03
reoncjs, mine did the same. did you install from a Ubuntu cd?09:03
cjsI originally installed from the lubuntu CD.09:03
reoncjs, yes I think so but rather check google than taking my word for it, I don't have those options configured.09:03
Unit193cjs: [SeatDefaults]09:04
Unit193Bug #83639509:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 836395 in Unity Greeter "greeter-hide-users has no effect" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83639509:05
Unit193cjs: You can try changing greeters and see if it's an error there09:05
cjsHuh! The greeter-hide-user thing worked. I must have been using hide-users or something silly last time.09:07
cjsThough I could have sworn it didn't work for me a second ago.09:08
alecvhallo09:09
cjsIs it worth recording my experiences and my lightdm.conf in that bug report, do you think?09:10
cjsOh, never mind; it was fixed.09:10
alecvany people on #xubuntu-it ?09:11
reoncjs, do you have a panel/bar at the top of your login screen with two little icons on the right, the one handles shutdownetc?09:11
reonshutdown etc?09:11
Unit193alecv: Doesn't look like it. If you don't know English, you can ask in #ubuntu-it09:12
cjsreon: I think so. Let me log out and check.09:13
cjsreon: I have hostname at the left, and at the right accessibility options menu / sound / battery / clock / power.09:14
cjsDoes that mean I'm using the unity greeter session? I've not actually heard of a greeter session before.09:14
reoncjs, huh? is that on the login screen? let me try and get a screenshot of mine09:15
cjsIs the "Xfce Session" (that you select from the drop-down when you log in) different from the "Xubuntu Session"? Both look the same, from looking at the /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop files.09:16
alecvUnit193, the channel is by invitation, I wanted to know if any user is present in the channel to invite09:16
cjsUh oh. I have to get going soon.09:17
reoncjs, yes09:17
reonit's different09:17
cjsHm. I do get a different background. How does that work?09:18
cjsSomething set in the environment?09:18
Unit193alecv: I joined the Xubuntu one just fine, seems you need to be registered with NickServ09:18
reoncjs, I think if you pick xfce session it overwrites your configs09:18
Unit193alecv: Ah, you are there09:18
reoncjs, login background?09:20
reoncjs, see http://ompldr.org/vYXYyNA/lightdm2.png for what mine looks like09:21
reoncjs, you can test your lightdm with: lightdm --test-mode -c /etc/light/lightdm.conf09:22
cjsreon: My login screen looks nothing like that, except for the two icons on the right of the bar on top. Are you running Ubuntu 11.10?09:23
reoncjs, I did a cli/base install from the Ubuntu 11.10 alternate cd, I then installed xubuntu-destop etc via the repos09:24
cjsThat's exactly what I did, except using the lubuntu alternate CD.09:25
reoncjs, run that command I just gave you, make a screenshot of the window it pops up and upload it to ompldr09:25
reoncjs, it should look the same09:26
Unit193reon has the default for Xubuntu 11.1009:26
cjshttp://ompldr.org/vYXYyYg09:27
reoncjs, thats the default ubuntu login screen09:27
cjsYup.09:28
reonwhat is all the stuff you installed after the base install?09:28
cjsBase, then xubuntu-desktop, then ubuntu-desktop. Ah! I bet it's that last one that did it, right?09:29
reonyes, that last one would have done it ;)09:29
cjsWhy does my network manager give me "device not managed" for wireless networks?09:29
cjsIs it because I installed using WiFi?09:30
cjsI notice it's an eth1, rather than a wlan1.09:30
reoncjs, also had that problem but with my wired connection09:30
cjsOh wow.09:30
reonI had to wipe the contents of  the /etc/networks(?) file so it's clear of any crap and reboot and then configure network manager again09:32
cjsAnyway, I really, really need to head out. I'll probably be back in, oh, 16 hours or so.09:32
reoncheers09:32
cjsOh! Doh. Right. The installer left /etc/network/interfaces configuring the interface, so of course NetworkManager is going to ignore it.09:34
cjsreon: Thanks for all your help! It was quite useful. Cheers.09:34
reonno problemo09:35
reoncjs, I also bump my head on the network config file, was pulling my hair out09:35
Unit193You should be able to clear, than restart service (Worked here, but I switched TO the file)09:36
reonI must say I like this irc channel, it's nice and quiet compared to others I've been on and they made me hate irc09:37
reonUnit193, yes that should also work but I could not remember the command so I rebooted :D09:37
Unit193sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (or sudo service networking restart)  This channel is more quiet, but can be bad for support :/09:38
Unit193*at times09:39
reonin the other channel you are lucky if you can follow what's going on09:39
reonthings happen to fast and way to much cross talk09:40
Unit193!xubuntu-channels09:40
ubottuSupport: #xubuntu | Developer Discussion: #xubuntu-devel | Offtopic chatter: #xubuntu-offtopic09:40
serfusi'm using the default ocelot with unity, what is the name of the package i need to install in order to get it XFCE-ized?10:02
knomeserfus, xubuntu-desktop10:03
Unit193!purexfce |10:03
ubottu: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »10:03
serfusthanks mate10:03
serfusno no, other users on this computer still use unity, i don't want do delete anything10:04
Unit193Yeah, meant to hit "| for good measure ;)"  It's good to let people know that don't already10:05
serfusthanks though :)10:06
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rostayobis there a way to remove all the stock ubuntu applications after I've installed xubuntu-desktop?10:51
rostayobwill removing ubuntu-desktop work well?10:52
knome!purexfce10:53
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »10:53
knomeremoving ubuntu-desktop will only remove the metapackage10:53
buzz_note i also did --purge to remove the configs for them also when switching from ubuntu to xubuntu10:56
buzz_and i had to remove the lightdm.conf or so, as it was referencing removed ubuntu greeter stuff10:58
rostayobknome: thanks11:07
knomenp11:08
rostayobI get this when pasting that long uninstall list:11:09
rostayob libaccess-bridge-java : Depends: default-jre but it is not going to be installed or11:09
rostayob                                  openjdk-6-jre but it is not going to be installed or11:09
rostayob                                  sun-java6-jre but it is not installable11:09
rostayobbut non of the packages is in that list11:09
buzz_i think i had that and i removed the java stuff manually with aptitude or something11:10
buzz_then it worked11:10
rostayobbuzz_: yep, I'm doing that now11:11
rostayobI hope that this won't break too much stuff eheh11:11
reonrostayob, If you are worried about accidentally removing stuff you need just do a sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop11:14
reonfollowed by sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-default-settings11:14
rostayobreon: yeah11:14
buzz_rostayob, note the lightdm.conf comment /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf - you might need to remove it/move it in case you dont get a login manager11:15
rostayobbuzz_: all right I'll check that11:16
rostayobI predict a spike of xfce installations anyway, now that it's only Unity and GNOME 311:18
anicholsIs anyone else having severe trouble resixing windows in xbuntu 11.10?  I swear the window resizing margins are razor thin, no matter what theme I've tried...even went on askubuntu.com and tried tinkering with a few of their ideas...no dice. :(11:58
Sysichange theme in window manager settings  or use alt+right click11:59
anicholsDespite the <distance name="foo_width" being set to at least 4, it's got to be only a pixel wide....11:59
anicholsSysi: I've tried multiple themes....even tried poritng Clearlooks from 11.04 (which had no such issue) into 11.10....that failed to help.12:00
anicholsSysi: And doing alt+right click all the time is a bit clumsy, I should just be able to grab the edge of a window and move it as I see fit, right?12:00
ablomenanichols, are you sure you changed the theme in the "Window Manager" section like Sysi said? There are lot's of theme's there with bigger borders12:02
ablomenso not the Appearance section12:02
anicholsablomen: ....you'd think changing theme in Appearance would change it in Window Manager.... *sighs*12:04
anicholsablomen: Why do they have to have you change it in two places?  Grr...one sec...12:04
Sysibecause they use different theming12:04
anicholsGot it!  Thank you to Sysi AND ablomen for the tip. ^.^12:04
knomedifferent theming, and semantically also completely different thing12:05
Sysiit's kinda stupid but well, logical12:05
knomeSysi, there's a new feature coming in12:05
anicholsNow I have the bonus of having my normal buttons back as well... *makes a note to put in a script that allows me to change the appearance in both Window Manager and Appearance at the same time.12:05
knomeSysi, configuration "sets"12:06
knomeSysi, you will have some default sets, and you can create your own too12:06
Sysisounds interesting12:06
anicholsI don't suppose any of you would happen to know of a good guide on creating your own themes?  I've been thinking of trying to get xubuntu to look like the ancient computer system in Stargate Atlantis for awhile now, but it's never really felt in my reach to actually get it put together properly.12:07
knomeanichols, there aren't good guides that cover everything, and some bits you will only have to learn from other themes or so12:09
Sysiit's a bit of work, and currently you need to make gtk3 inaddition to gtk212:09
anicholsSo, not a good time to start experimenting, then?12:09
knomeprobably not12:10
anicholsThank you for the honesty, and for all the advice.  It's appreciated. ^.^12:10
knomewhat changed on libreoffice pdf export natty->oneiric?12:12
knomethe cell borders look lousy12:12
knomeprint to file as pdf is better than pdf export :(((12:16
heelguruJust switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. One problem I'm having are finding the system wide font preferences. Can anyone help?12:36
knomeheelguru, settings manager -> appearance -> tab fonts12:37
knomeheelguru, settings manager -> window manager -> tab style for window title font12:37
heelguruknome: thanks, but what about systemwide mono font, etc12:38
knomemmh. don't know12:38
heelguruknome: thanks anyway12:39
magogHello there12:41
magogCan someone help me? I have a trouble with language switch12:41
magogI have no idea how add a hotkey (alt+shift for ex) to switch input lang12:43
magogHello?12:43
magogbest way to get help12:48
reonAh, just figured out how to get libreoffice to use the default theme12:53
reonno idea how to change the icon theme though13:00
thedoctarhey13:23
thedoctarwhat packages are used in xubuntu compared to ubuntu?13:23
thedoctaras in preinstalled13:23
knomesee the dependencies of xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop13:29
aboudreaultHow tell an application (thunderbird) to remember the monitor it was in dual mode?13:55
madnickIve been unsuccesful to do so14:04
madnickmessaging appears on the wrong screen :(14:04
madnickbug 69992214:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 699922 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird displays notification on wrong monitor" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69992214:05
aboudreault:(14:07
aboudreaultit's not only notifications... but I use a tray addon and everytime the window is restored... it goes on the monitor114:07
XubuntuKrisHow can I change the mount point of a network hard drive?14:37
XubuntuKrisRight now it's mounted in ~/Ozzwin14:37
aboudreaulthow can I set a windows always visible on all workspace.... everytime. not only for this time.14:52
aboudreaultI mean everytime I open the app.14:52
pteague_workany idea how i can turn off the "Onboard" keyboard in oneiric?14:55
melteris there a fix for the broken "xfce power manager" icon in the top panel? (xubuntu 11.10, fresh install)15:09
Shirakawasunaaboudreault: I recommend checking out devilspie15:20
Shirakawasunaspecifically gdevilspie15:20
chamboDoes anyone know of a way to change the sound menu so that "Sound settings" points to pavucontrol15:23
chambo?15:23
chamboI don't find the current sound setting dialog particularly useful15:24
aboudreaultShirakawasuna, thx will install and test it15:47
william12question: how can i get the new login screen? background isn't functioning fro some reason.15:48
zacariashow do we change the different keys behaviour (like the 3d level activation, for instance) in Xubuntu 11.04?15:51
zacariashow do we change the keys behaviour (like activating the 3d level with a certain key, for instance)?16:03
AlexFromBelgiumHey boys and girls.16:06
AlexFromBelgiumMy xubuntu is extremely broken since today..16:06
AlexFromBelgiumI don't have borders on my windows16:06
AlexFromBelgiumto move and close and stuff16:06
Sysialt F2 "xfwm4 --replace"16:07
AlexFromBelgiumxfwn4 --replace16:07
AlexFromBelgiumwoeps16:07
AlexFromBelgiumHey nice. It worked16:08
AlexFromBelgiumThat just freshed the window manager?16:08
AlexFromBelgiumrefreshed*16:08
AlexFromBelgiumThank you, by the way... :p16:09
zacariasDo you know how can we activate the 3rd level with a certain key on the keyboard on Xubuntu 11.04?16:09
AlexFromBelgium3rd level?16:10
Sysicompose key? google should have many guides for that16:10
Myrtticrossposting :'(16:11
zacariaslike for using the at with the "2" key+alt, for instance16:12
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tjpoedoes xubuntu 11.10 support dual monitors?16:14
tjpoewhen I hook up the 2nd monitor, it just does mirroring and I can't figure out how to change to side by side monitors16:14
AlexFromBelgiumDo you have a nvidia graphics card? else you should use the nvidia utility..16:15
AlexFromBelgiumMenu -> Settings ->Display?16:15
tjpoeno nvidia, just intel, and dual support works fine in ubuntu16:16
tjpoemenu -> settings -> display just controls whether or not the display is on, and the resolution for both16:16
AlexFromBelgiumWait I'm hooking up my 2nd monitor ^16:16
tjpoethere is no option "mirror displays" or anything that I can uncheck.16:17
Myrttiarandr or xrandr16:18
Myrttior even grandr16:18
tjpoehere is output of xrandr: http://pastebin.com/BuZEG6LG16:20
tjpoein the panel settings there are options to "span the panel to multiple monitors" so it looks like it is supported, i just can't find the config for it.16:28
reonGo to panel preferences, Output: Automatic, tick "Span monitors" box16:29
tjpoedone, it doesn't change anything16:29
reontjpoe, works here16:30
tjpoereon, did you have side by side displays to start? or mirrored?16:31
reonusing nvidia twinview16:31
tjpoei'm using intel, so no restricted drivers16:32
reontjoe, sorry no idea then.16:33
tjpoeanyone familiar with the empathy pref file?16:40
tjpoeit was working fine yesterday and I was messing with the themes16:40
tjpoeand I selected one and the program crashed16:40
tjpoeand now every time it loads, it seg faults16:41
tjpoeand I can't find the config file to edit to change it back to normal16:41
AlexFromBelgiumhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/9089/where-are-all-my-empathy-settings-stored16:49
AlexFromBelgiumDoes that help?16:50
lordjjChoosing "mount and open" from the "Places" menu only mounts; doesn't open.17:03
Arpad2hello17:14
Arpad2after exiting xubuntu with hiernate the szstem doesnt start17:14
MikeChelenapt-get says sun-java6-bin cannot be located even though the partner repo is enabled17:57
aboudreaultMikeChelen, openjdk-6-jre17:58
MikeChelenaboudreault: what if i want to install the sun java version?17:59
aboudreaultMikeChelen, sun-java6-jre18:00
aboudreaultsun-java6-bin18:00
MikeChelenE: Package 'sun-java6-jre' has no installation candidate18:01
aboudreault[extensions]18:01
aboudreaultmq =18:01
aboudreaultoups18:01
aboudreault pool/partner/18:01
aboudreaultso partner repo18:01
aboudreaultyou have something wrong then18:01
aboudreaultapt-get update ...18:01
MikeChelenyeah i have partner enabled18:01
aboudreaultor recheck your line18:01
MikeChelenalready ran update with no errors18:01
aboudreault(I'm on natty)18:02
MikeChelendeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu oneiric partner18:02
metap0dHi everyone, i'm new to xubuntu and wondering how to install the java ee JDK and netbeans? neither appears in the synaptic repo's18:02
MikeChelendoes partner source need to be enabled?18:02
MikeChelenmetap0d: enable partner repo18:02
aboudreaultno18:02
Sysimetap0d: did you refresh package lists18:03
aboudreaultMikeChelen, oneiric is very new... so it might be possible that the packages of partners are not available yet18:03
metap0dMikeChelen: How would one go about doing that?18:04
MikeChelenaboudreault: ah ok, probably openjdk will work but it was confusing18:04
MikeChelenmetap0d: open software sources and look at "other" tab18:04
MikeChelenmetap0d: what version xubuntu?18:05
metap0dMikeChelen: The newest version, 11.1018:05
MikeChelenmetap0d: it seems there might not be sun java packages for this version yet18:05
MikeChelenmetap0d: try this http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html18:06
MikeChelenlook for section about java18:07
MikeChelenaboudreault: it looks like the sun java packages have been intentionally removed due to licensing issues18:09
aboudreaultMikeChelen, ha.. it's possible. (/me pisses on Oracle) thanks for the info.18:11
MikeChelenaboudreault: hehe yep, the license has always been an issue, maybe now openjdk is a reasonable alternative18:12
aboudreaultMikeChelen, I've always used Openjdk and I've never found any critical issue.18:13
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xubuntu695hi18:31
xubuntu695anyone here?18:32
xubuntu695..18:33
reonAnyone here a ex gnome2 user that misses the Global Menu on the panel?18:45
zuswould ubuntu 1 work with xubuntu?18:47
incorrectreon, nope18:47
reonwell if you know of anybody point them here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/how-to-enable-ubuntus-global-menu-in-xubuntu-11-10/18:48
incorrectaslong it doesn't get hidden that is great18:50
incorrectmore screen real estate18:50
incorrecti hated them hiding the menu from me18:50
reonzus, just use dropbox, many people seem to prefer it to u118:51
Myrttiubuntu one does work in xubuntu18:51
zusi do, but i also have an ubuntu 1 account from back in the day....18:51
zusreon, ^18:52
zusMyrtti,  thanks18:52
Myrttinautilus integration obviously doesnt, but is that a problem18:52
reonzus http://askubuntu.com/questions/15710/ubuntu-one-for-xfce18:52
zusreon,  shiny thanks18:52
reonno problemo ;)18:53
zusMyrtti,  hmmm dunno, still yet to install it....not a big fan of nautilus really18:53
lorin` ugh, seems like a serious lack of themes that play nice with 11.10. any recommendations aside from greybird?18:54
Unit193You do not have to install Nautilus, I didn't18:54
reonzus, that link says you dont need nautilus for u118:54
zusalthough that brings me to  a question on thunar....can i display how big a folder is or how many items under a folder  like in nautilus?18:54
beardygnomelorin`: I think greybird is the only supported theme18:55
reonzus, yes mine shows that info18:55
zusi didnt find how to enable it in the prefrences,...18:56
reonmine shows it by default18:56
zacariasDo you know how can we activate the 3rd level with a specific key, or define the alt, win, etc. behaviour, on the keyboard on Xubuntu 11.04? I don't see ehe options in the keyboard settings18:56
lorin`beardygnome: thanks. well it is a nice theme, so could be worse18:56
zusreon,  i only have the folder names under it..18:57
reonzus, View-->Statusbar18:58
zusthe status bar somehow doesnt seem as approximate.19:00
reonI don't understand?19:00
melteranyone know why my window borders in 11.10 would disappear?19:01
zusi want to know how many items are in a folder, which nautilus  displays under the folder name19:01
zuscan thunar do this?19:01
reonmelter, in a terminal type "xfwm4 &". it's a bug19:02
melterreon: thanks! that worked!19:02
reonmelter, that happend to me about 30min ago19:03
reonzus, sorry I dont know19:05
zusno worries ill figure  something out, i didny like nautilus but that was a brilliant tool to know how many files are in a folder right under the folder name.19:06
well_laid_lawnthunar show the number of files in the dir in the status bar19:09
interglacialls | wc19:10
zacariasDo you know how can we activate the 3rd level with a specific key, or define the alt, win, etc. behaviour, on the keyboard on Xubuntu 11.04? I don't see the options in the keyboard settings19:19
reonwhat is a 3rd level?19:20
Zebulonhey, i'm going to install Xubuntu 11.04 via FTP using unetbootin, is there anything I should watch out for?19:21
reonwhy 11.04?19:25
Zebulon11.10 isn't available on unetbootin19:26
Sysidownload .iso and push it to stick with unetbootin19:27
Zebuloni can't i don19:27
Zebulon't have a stick19:27
Zebuloni have a backtrack live cd19:27
Zebulonand thats it...19:27
Zebuloni just tried it19:27
Zebulonand it installed it, xubuntu 11.04 and then when it restarted it loaded and then froze19:28
Zebulonit just didn't go through, thats why i am here19:28
Zebuloni can just install backtrack but i don't want to :]19:28
Zebulonok, just a simple question then, when using a to harddisk install  do I use the netinstall or the Hdmedia install?19:29
reonhttp://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other19:31
reonwhy not do a ubunto 11.10 install and add xubuntu?19:32
Zebulonok19:32
Zebuloni'm worried about my outdated video gpu19:32
Zebulonits the reason i'm here19:32
Zebulonany issues with cards that don't support openGL greater than 1.1?19:33
reonhonestly dont know19:33
Zebulonok, don't see how it should matter either tbh :]19:34
Zebuloni'll try the net install again :]19:39
Zebulonyou'll be hearing me ;)19:40
Zebulonthanx19:40
lordjjTop panel won't autohide! Although autohide is checked.20:03
Unit193lordjj: Open terminal   xfce4-panel -r20:04
lordjjcan you explain the command plese?20:05
lordjjwhat's "-r"20:05
Unit193restart20:05
lordjjok20:05
Unit193You are restarting your panel20:05
lordjjAnd what's the keyboard shortcut for the terminal?20:06
lordjjcan I change it?20:06
sakerHELP!  I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and even though I enter the correct password I cannot restart my main user session (I had to start another session to get to x-chat to post here.).  When I click on my main user name and enter my password, the screen goes black and then returns me right back to the main menu.  Please help20:07
Unit193I had to add it  Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts20:07
reonlordjj, you can make it whatever you want20:07
sakerand  I can use my password on the command line, and it works, I even can reset it, its just the main login menu which blocks me20:08
Unit193saker: Your main user, you click the correct username, enter password? Is the session set to Xubuntu Session?20:08
lordjjthank you20:08
sakerUnit193, I tried all session types and the username and password are correct20:08
lordjjerm, but what's the command to open a terminal window?20:09
Unit193xfce4-terminal20:09
reonxfce4-terminal20:10
Unit193saker: Try in terminal     sudo mv /home/YOURUSERHERE/.Xauthority /home/YOURUSERHERE/.Xauthority.backup; sudo service lightdm restart20:10
sakerok20:11
sakerI did install gdm,, I remember that20:11
sakeryou want me to use lightgdm?20:12
Unit193Well, that's default for oneiric, so I was going on that20:13
beardygnomesaker: i had the same problem20:14
beardygnomeremoving the .Xauthority file fixed it for me20:14
gNewPowerUnit193, THANKS!!20:15
gNewPowerI am the "Saker"20:16
Unit193gNewPower: Ah, ok. You're welcome20:16
gNewPowerswitching the display managers did the trick20:16
gNewPowercan you explain what happend?20:16
Unit193I've never seen GDM in oneiric, but you removed a "magic cookie"20:17
gNewPowerhow so?20:18
Unit193Having penel issues, detach :/20:19
gNewPoweruh?20:20
zacariasDo you know how can we activate the 3rd level with a specific key, or define the alt, win, etc. behaviour, on the keyboard on Xubuntu 11.04? I don't see the options in the keyboard settings20:27
gNewPowerUnit193, is my problem fixed now?  If I reboot will the change you advised me to do still be there?20:28
lothwigHi, i want to install xubuntu on my laptop without a cd-drive20:29
lothwigis there a way to convert a cd-image to a disk-image?20:29
TheSheep!install20:29
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:29
beardygnomelothwig: you might be able to boot from a usb drive20:30
beardygnomeas long as your laptop's bios supports it20:30
lothwigqemu is (-hda works) but my laptop is not20:30
lothwigOk, but I don't want to use this only for xubuntu, but also for a biso update20:31
lothwiglenovo should know this laptop has no cd-drive -.-   Can i use Grub to boot a cd-image?20:32
Picizacarias: I don't think that we know what 'the 3rd level' is here, otherwise we'd be helping you.20:32
Unit193genii-around: That was panel...20:33
genii-aroundUnit193: ?20:34
Unit193genii-around: Tabfail, sorry20:35
genii-aroundUnit193: Ah, no worries.20:35
lothwigConvert the .iso file to .img using the convert option of hdiutil (e.g., hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso)20:36
lothwigdoes this convert a cd-image to a usb-image?20:36
lothwigit from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download20:36
lothwigBurn your CD or create a bootable USB stick /Mac OS/USB Stick20:37
beardygnomelothwig: you can use unetbootin to create a bootable usb drive from a cd iso20:38
lothwigAh, thanks for the tip, I'm lucky i still have a windows20:39
lothwigI'm doing a bios-update with this technique, wish me luck!20:41
lorin`i don't have a screensaver installed, and my monitor is set to never sleep in the power manager, what would be putting my display to sleep?20:51
Unit193gNewPower: Seems you're back, all go well?  (And  Iwas going for Panel)20:51
gNewPowerUnit193, yes, indeed, all is well20:54
gNewPowerthanks A LOT20:54
zusany one know of any icon set that displays a % of  wireless strength when hovering over the "signal"20:54
gNewPowerthat latest upgrade was freaky20:54
Unit193gNewPower: I had a boot issue on upgrade of another Natty > Oneiric box, booted now (We'll findout if it's fixed on next boot)20:55
boxxHey guys. Need some live help. Just installed Xubuntu 11.10. I do not have very much deep knowledge of linux systems but I think i know the basics. I used to run Ubuntu, but i can't stand Unity, so i just switched to Xubuntu and I'm very pleased so far. I just have one little problem: Samba/network browsing20:59
boxxWhen using ubuntu 11.04 for example, the OS would auto detect other machines on my network (mostly windows-based ones), and I could browse their shares and so on through nautilus21:00
zacariashow do you connect to a remote computer in xubuntu 11.04?21:01
gNewPowerwell, your help with lightdm versus gdm did solve the problem for me,  I just wish I understood what happened and what you did...21:01
Unit193!fusesmb21:01
ubottufusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network.  Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb21:01
boxxwell, alt+F2 > smb://computername21:01
beardygnomezacarias: do you want to connect to the command line or the gui desktop?21:01
boxxmuch like the way i do it on windows (win+r > \\computername)21:01
beardygnomezacarias: is it a linux or windows machine you want to connect to?21:02
Unit193boxx: Install gvfs-backends and use gigolo21:02
zacariasbeardygnome, to the gui desktop. In gnome there is a "connect to" in the menus. I donj't see it in Xubuntu21:02
zacariasIbeardygnome: it's a mac21:03
zacariasbeardygnome: it's a mec21:03
boxxok, so there's no way to just make the thunar file browser or the "Run command"-prompt in xfce understand the smb:// URI?21:03
beardygnomeapplications -> internet -> remote desktop viewer21:04
beardygnomeboxx: Ctrl-L then enter the smb uri21:04
rene_my power button does not work in the freshly installed xubuntu 11.10, anyone know how to fix this?21:06
beardygnomerene_: what do you mean by "doesn't work"?21:07
rene_xev shows the power button is pressed, xubuntu just does not respond with an shutdown menu21:07
rene_power button works, tried xev and it shows it is pressed. just no response21:08
rene_set the action to shutdown in power settings (and back to ask to try if that works) but nada21:08
boxxbeardygnome hm, ctrl+L doesn't give me anything at all21:11
boxxalthough...21:11
boxxUnit193: thanks! installing gvfs-backends dit exactly what i wanted.21:11
boxxalong with a million different samba packages.21:11
Unit193boxx: Glad it helped!21:11
Unit193Eh, it does that (I didn't even remember I did that)21:12
beardygnomeboxx: how about Go -> Open Location?21:12
Unit193boxx: You all setup now?21:13
boxxYes, it seems to work just fine now actually21:13
boxxOr, wait21:13
brashley46hiya I'm installing in a Lubuntu installation which somehow lost its LXDE after the latest Ubuntu update - is there any wayto recovr my bookmarks & passwords in firefox and Thunderbird?21:14
boxxin ubuntu 11.04, when i entered a share on a different computer, ubuntu auto-mounted it or something, so it appeared in the left column in the file  manager and as a shortcut on the desktop21:15
boxxdo you know if there's some easy way to make that happen here?21:15
Unit193brashley46: Did you mean to join #Lubuntu ?21:16
brashley46no I'm now installing xubuntu21:16
Unit193boxx: I don't have it automount to desktop, but you can set gigolo on boot and have a few things automount21:16
Unit193brashley46: Ok, I didn't get that21:16
beardygnomeboxx: i don't think you can do that in thunar yet21:17
Unit193brashley46: You should be able to backup .mozilla and .thunderbird21:17
brashley46I could not get the desktop to start in Lubuntu so wasnot able to backup - the machine would boot and then blackscreen21:18
beardygnomebrashley46: if you boot a live cd, you can back up all of your files21:19
brashley46I'm doing the "update" install from the xubuntu disk,will that save my .mozilla and .thunderbird?21:20
brashley46already started21:21
boxxUnit193 & beardygnome: thanks for all the help! now I can finally get started with.. stuff. Have a nice day/night or whatever it is where you are.21:21
beardygnomebrashley46: do you have room to install xubuntu alongside your broken installation?21:22
brashley46no21:22
beardygnomeif you tell the installer NOT to format your partitons, that *should* leave your home directory intact21:23
Unit193boxx: Glad it's all fixed!21:23
brashley46cool - that is the install I chose -good to get some positive reinforcement21:24
brashley46thanksall -hope this works21:25
beardygnomebrashley46: i'll keep my fingers crossed for you21:25
rene_any way to check acpi status/settings ? it is installed but does not seem to recognize my power off button (or has no action associated)21:26
Unit193rene_: Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Power Manager21:29
rene_correctly set to shutdown when on/off button is pressed it just does not do that21:30
rene_I can shutdown fine from menu just not by using my powerbutton which is a bit annoying on my laptop21:31
rene_loving the rest of xubuntu btw, everything works excellent except this little annoyance :)21:32
YxvenI'm trying to remap caps lock to escape. I have a .xmodmap file that remaps it correctly, but I can't seem to figure out how to run it automatically upon logging in. I've added "xmodmap ~/.xmodmap" to .xsession and sym linked .xsession to .xinitrc21:33
boxxwhehey, im back21:34
knomeYxven, rename the file to ~/.Xmodmap, and if you have selected to use system settings in the keyboard layout dialog in settings manager, it is loaded automatically at boot21:35
Yxventhanks21:35
boxxHow can i get "File Roller" to understand how to extract rar-archives packed into several files?21:36
boxxor do I have to run something like Winrar over Wine?21:36
knome!rar21:37
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free21:37
rene_install unrar-free and works like a charm21:37
boxxah ok, will try it.21:39
rene_in xubuntu software center its called rar (unrar is non-free) but it is for both opening and creating rar's21:41
boxxok. I installed them all I think. testing it now21:41
gNewPowerI did an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and in my top panel the volume control applet has disappeared.  how do I get it back?  thanks21:45
rene_just volume or all indicators?21:47
Unit193gNewPower: sudo apt-get install indicator-sound   and remove indicator plugin and put it back21:47
gNewPowerUnit193, thanks21:50
Unit193gNewPower: Heh, you're welcome again ;)21:50
Unit193Anything else while you're here? ;)21:50
gNewPoweryes,21:50
gNewPowerhow do I remove an indicator plugin I don't see??21:51
Unit193Right click on the email icon > Remove21:51
gNewPowerthe one for pidgin for ex?21:51
gNewPowersorry21:52
Unit193Pidgin, thunderbird, etc21:52
gNewPowerok21:52
Unit193Right click > Panel > Add new items > Indicator Plugin21:52
gNewPowerok21:54
gNewPowerthat did work21:54
gNewPowerbut...21:54
gNewPowerbut nothing :-)21:54
gNewPowerit all works21:54
gNewPowerlol21:54
gNewPowercan I edit what I do want and do not want to see in that indicator plugin?21:55
Unit193I only have Network, Mail, and Volume in the indicator plugin, but more applets21:59
Unit193You can change what applets you have21:59
gNewPowerI have ubuntu one for ex.  how do I remove that from the indicator plugin you helped me get sound to22:00
kenny__hi22:01
knomehello22:01
Unit193gNewPower: That should be in the mail icon22:01
kenny__ive got a problem, and was wondering if anyone can help me out22:01
kenny__ive installed xubuntu on virtualbox, started it up, runs nice, only have problem with the resolution, and i dont have /etc/X11/xconf.org file22:02
knomehave you installed the guest additions?22:02
kenny__tried installing it also, but still didnt have xorg.conf , and the max resolution i could get with it was 800x600 when without it i could run it in 1024*76822:03
kenny__currently im reinstalling xubuntu 11.1022:04
Unit193gNewPower: If I understand what I'm reading, remove indicator-messages to remove the mail icon22:04
gNewPowerfrom the CLI, right22:04
Rodenskyhello22:24
gNewPoweruh, anybody know why Avidemux is missing from 11.10?  I need to get it from GetDeb now...22:24
gNewPowerhi22:24
Rodenskyhow do i replace my theme pack?22:24
Rodenskyxfce422:24
Unit193gNewPower: Bug #79358122:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 793581 in avidemux (Ubuntu) "[Need Packaging] New upstream release 2.5.5" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79358122:29
gNewPowerthanks22:38
Rodenskyhey people. please help me. i want to install a new theme pack for xfce but i don't understand the instructions on wiki.xfce.org22:40
Rodenskyi already unpacked the theme at ~/.theme, but i don't know what else to do22:40
Rodenskyplease? :]22:41
zacariasDo you know how can we activate the 3rd level on Xubuntu 11.04? 3d level is the ability to enable the "at", the "euro" and other signs which you can do with the keys, not with shift but with one of the other (win/apple or alt) keys22:45
jmcantrellhow do i browse network shares?22:53
Unit193jmcantrell: Install gvfs-backends22:54
jmcantrellUnit193: what do i do after that?22:55
Unit193jmcantrell: Either open thunar and look at network on the side, or Menu > System > Gigolo22:56
yomiHello.22:56
jmcantrellUnit193: ok. i'm getting a gvfs error sometimes when i go to my home folder in thunar. do you know anything about that?22:56
Unit193What error exactly?22:57
jmcantrellUnit193: one sec22:58
jmcantrellUnit193: i can't get it to show again, however all i see is grey when i go there or my desktop... everywhere else seems to work22:58
yomithe issue I'm having isn't too bad, but I'm forced to restart xfdesktop whenever I login in, and there's something up with the icons...here's a screenshot...http://imageshack.us/f/214/screenshot1018201107010.png/23:02
jmcantrellUnit193: "error stating file '/home/me/.gvfs': transport endpoint is not connected23:02
Unit193jmcantrell: You using encryption?23:05
jmcantrellUnit193: yes23:05
jmcantrellUnit193: apparently a reboot fixes it, but any logout/login brings it back23:05
Unit193Bug #75461823:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 754618 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Failed to open encrypted home directory" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75461823:05
jmcantrellUnit193: ok, one more... if i have gnome services enabled, the onboard keyboard shows up when i login23:08
Unit193Ye23:09
jmcantrellUnit193: do you know how to fix this?23:11
Unit193Disable gnome services23:13
jmcantrellUnit193: ok, then how do i get the keyring to work without it?23:13
Unit193This shouldn't help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185372323:14
yomi...?23:18
yomiI think it might be gtk, but I have no clue23:19
yomihttp://imageshack.us/f/214/screenshot1018201107010.png/23:21
yomigedit's icons look messed up. it also affects...startup disk creator.23:22
Unit193What theme are you using and can you deal with it?23:24
yomiI'm using MurrinaAquaish, I suppose I could put up with it.23:26
zacariasSorry to ask again: Do you know how can we activate the 3rd level on Xubuntu 11.04? 3d level is the ability to enable the "at", the "euro" and other signs which you can do with the keys, not with shift but with one of the other (win/apple or alt) keys23:26
Unit193yomi: Try the default, see if that works23:26
Unit193yomi: Might be something to do with GTK2/323:27
yomiwould the default be "greybird"?23:27
Unit193IIRC, yes23:27
yomiah..23:29
yomithere we go.23:29
knomeUnit193, eh, "IIRC" :D23:29
yomibrb...23:29
Unit193knome: Albatross, Greybird, bluebird... You think I'll remember ANY of that? :P23:30
Unit193knome: Good job on them BTW :P23:30
knomeUnit193, ;) thx23:30
yomiokay 1 issue solved23:34
yomithe second is this one....23:34
yomiI just rebooted and now the desktop background is completely blue and my right-click menu looks like gnome's (the options it gives me) its "fixed" if I restart xfdesktop after I login in23:35
yomiperhaps its because I have Nautilus installed, it auto-starts23:43
yomiI want to install the latest NVIDIA Drivers....how would I do that? I used to do "sudo service gdm stop" but gdm is gone23:56
knomeyomi, look at jockey23:58

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