bambee | hi | 08:19 |
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yofel | o/ | 14:18 |
afiestas | ScottK: aren't you comming to uds? | 15:12 |
ScottK | No. | 15:14 |
ScottK | Currently taking a break from Ubuntu development. | 15:14 |
afiestas | ScottK: I hope it is not because the flame in the list :/ | 15:15 |
ScottK | No, but I'm very disappointed in the Akonadi/kdepim transition. I cannot make it work for me. Currently using Thunderbird. | 15:16 |
ScottK | This is not at all motivational. | 15:16 |
afiestas | ScottK: I have been using Thunderbird for months, recently switched back at KMail | 15:17 |
afiestas | I know the feeling is what I mean, and it depressed me too | 15:17 |
ScottK | I have a new quad core laptop. | 15:17 |
afiestas | but in the other hand, we have many other stuff working really well now, so I keep my mind focused in them | 15:17 |
ScottK | If Akonadi is running, every time I resume (not start, resume) Akonadi and Nepomuk max out all CPUs for several minutes. | 15:18 |
ScottK | This is complete crap. | 15:18 |
al | for me it's cpu + i/o | 15:18 |
afiestas | it is actually the combo of both that doesn't work | 15:18 |
yofel | for me it's cpu + memory | 15:18 |
afiestas | if you disable email nepomuk feeding, then everything works well | 15:18 |
ScottK | So I got kdepim 4.4 working on oneiric, but it uses akonadi for addressbook and such. | 15:19 |
ScottK | So then it starts up and kills my system. | 15:19 |
ScottK | I start to think Akonadi and Nepomuk will be the death of KDE. | 15:19 |
ScottK | If it's not working in 2011, when will it work? | 15:19 |
al | i tried to start kmail recently, which choked badly on old akonadi resources | 15:19 |
yofel | IMO nepomuk works ~ok, as long as you leave strigi out of the equation | 15:20 |
al | had to clean the database tables manually | 15:20 |
yofel | *and* akonadi | 15:20 |
yofel | compared to akonadi, strigi is actually rather usable | 15:20 |
ScottK | With Thunderbird I can select 1000 messages and move them between IMAP folders in a second. | 15:20 |
ScottK | That takes minutes with Kmail2/Akonadi. | 15:21 |
afiestas | yofel: nepomuk + file indexation works well as long as you use 4.7.2 or 4.6 | 15:21 |
yofel | depends, it still likes to randomly re-index my PDF's - which eats cpu time on my eeepc | 15:22 |
yofel | but 4.7.3 should fix that I guess | 15:22 |
debfx | on a related topic, I'm still not sure if you should SRU bug #873396 (disabling calendar in the clock pop-up and some krunner plugins) | 15:24 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 873396 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Precise) "akonadi shouldn't be launched on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873396 | 15:24 |
debfx | it saves some people from having to deal with akonadi. on the other hand it changes settings which is bad for a SRU | 15:25 |
ScottK | debfx: It probably has to be added to release notes at this point. | 15:25 |
debfx | ScottK: ok, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes and the post on kubuntu.org? | 15:29 |
ScottK | Yes. | 15:29 |
ScottK | I'd make the change for oneiric though so it's not forgotten. | 15:30 |
debfx | ok, I'll upload it to o-proposed | 15:41 |
ScottK | debfx: Sorry, I meant precise. | 15:51 |
ScottK | I don't think it's appropriate for an SRU for exactly the reason you mention. | 15:52 |
ScottK | (helps some, but it's a regression for others) | 15:52 |
debfx | hm, yeah. I've already committed it to bzr | 16:02 |
Riddell | bzr uncommit :) | 16:03 |
debfx | s/committed/pushed/. but I want to keep it there | 16:04 |
kubotu | debfx meant: "hm, yeah. I've already pushed it to bzr" | 16:04 |
Riddell | hmm, I think I've broken Ubuntu One | 16:15 |
_Groo_ | hi/2 all | 17:17 |
_Groo_ | guys whats the channel for nepomuk devel? | 17:17 |
Riddell | I'd guess #nepomuk | 17:17 |
_Groo_ | Riddell: nepomuk-kde :) | 17:19 |
_Groo_ | anyone using strigi over here? and is with 4.7.2? | 17:20 |
_Groo_ | strigi still has amnesia for me :P | 17:20 |
Riddell | it's not working for me at the moment | 17:22 |
_Groo_ | Riddell: can you elaborate? you didnt turn it on? or its broken? | 17:24 |
Riddell | it's on but it doesn't return any results when I search | 17:24 |
Riddell | this is 4.7.1 | 17:24 |
_Groo_ | Riddell: but does it reindex over and over? | 17:25 |
debfx | someone who cares about nepomuk could prepare a package with the indexing fixes from 4.7.3 | 17:28 |
* yofel looks some more at 4.7.2 | 17:35 | |
debfx | if you want more 4.7.2 packages in please upload them now so we can migrate them to -updates soon | 17:38 |
_Groo_ | debfx: true, just talked to trueg, its fixed in 4.7.3 :P | 17:39 |
yofel | debfx: I'll try to finish them now, there's only about 5 left that need checking | 17:41 |
debfx | Riddell: how much of gnome does ubuntu one pull in? | 17:41 |
debfx | yofel: thanks | 17:41 |
yofel | debfx: enough for SSO and gnome-keyring, but not much of the desktop | 17:41 |
_Groo_ | yofel: wasnt apachelogger working on a native kubuntu one? that got broken when they changed APIs? | 17:44 |
yofel | he was, and abandoned it | 17:44 |
debfx | hm, has anyone tested it with an encryption layer (e.g. ecryptfs)? | 17:44 |
yofel | what we need realistically is ksecretserviced and a qt edition of ubuntu-sso-client | 17:44 |
_Groo_ | debfx: should work, my home is encrypted and it works here *tm | 17:45 |
_Groo_ | yofel: ksecret is for 4.8, right? | 17:45 |
_Groo_ | yofel: should get integrated in kwallet? | 17:45 |
debfx | _Groo_: do you sync the encryted or decrypted files? | 17:45 |
yofel | _Groo_: no idea, it's WIP - that's all I know | 17:45 |
_Groo_ | debfx: decrypted | 17:46 |
_Groo_ | debfx: why would you want to sync encrypted files ? OO | 17:46 |
_Groo_ | debfx: its already encrypted on the server IMHO | 17:47 |
_Groo_ | debfx: if you are paranoid, use duplicity | 17:47 |
debfx | _Groo_: it's not and server side encryption isn't that useful anyway | 17:47 |
_Groo_ | debfx: or a tarball with truecrypt and sync that.. but it wouldnt be a actual sync anyway | 17:48 |
debfx | duplicity is a backup tool, it doesn't do syncing | 17:48 |
_Groo_ | debfx: how so it would be useful? the private key stays on your machine... no one can acess your pr0n at the server side | 17:48 |
debfx | afaik ecryptfs encryts files individually so that would be better than having an encrypted container | 17:49 |
_Groo_ | debfx: true | 17:49 |
_Groo_ | debfx: i advise against actually, to prone to misbehaviours | 17:50 |
debfx | _Groo_: ubuntu one doesn't encrypt the files (only the transport is encrypted) | 17:51 |
_Groo_ | debfx: it should then :) | 17:51 |
_Groo_ | how do i send a private msg? i forgot, using webchat | 17:51 |
debfx | tell that to the u1 devs ;) | 17:52 |
_Groo_ | isnt it suposed to be /msg? | 17:53 |
_Groo_ | better yet, open a private chat? | 17:54 |
_Groo_ | yeah, its a webchat problem :P | 17:54 |
CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/konsole] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 17:58 |
yofel | bug 875034 need looking at before we push the SRU | 17:59 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 875034 in Kubuntu PPA "Pulseaudio KDE integration broken with 4.7.2 updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875034 | 17:59 |
debfx | yofel: isn't that fixed when rebuilding against the latest libpulse? | 18:06 |
debfx | we still need to upload kde-l10n to o-proposed :o | 18:07 |
debfx | any volunteers? :D | 18:07 |
yofel | debfx: yeah nvm that bug, kdemultimedia in the PPA's broken, the one in oneiric-proposed is fine | 18:10 |
yofel | I can upload l10n - when I'm done with this and you've found nobody else | 18:11 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: ping ping ping | 18:11 |
CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kstars] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 18:12 |
debfx | maybe we can talk apachelogger into it | 18:13 |
* bambee is upgrading to precise | 18:14 | |
* yofel will do that after his SRU list is done | 18:15 | |
CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 18:19 |
yofel | ok, that would be it with the SRU list | 18:21 |
yofel | except for l10n | 18:22 |
* yofel goes back to backporting | 18:24 | |
yofel | hm, was just looking at the sponsoring queue - did anyone ever notice this: https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/ubuntu/oneiric/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings/+merge/63334 ? | 19:04 |
debfx | yofel: that is blocked by https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/ubuntu/natty/plymouth/plymouth/+merge/61897 | 19:23 |
yofel | ok | 19:23 |
* apachelogger is not here | 19:35 | |
yofel | might as well do l10n then | 19:39 |
CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common] Philip Muškovac * 109 * debian/changelog New upstream release (svn: 1256933, type: stable) LP: #872506 | 19:40 |
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BarkingFish | who would you report a bug with a kernel module to? Do they go on launchpad the same as others, or do they go to somewhere else? | 20:46 |
shadeslayer | BarkingFish: lp ... use ubuntu-bug linux ( afaik ) | 20:50 |
BarkingFish | shadeslayer, thanks. I have a wifi adapter which uses the rtl8192cu kernel module, but the module is buggy - when you attach your wifi adapter, the dang thing refuses to scan for any networks :) | 20:52 |
BarkingFish | i even tried to force a scan with iwlist wlan1 scanning and it came back with nothing whatsoever | 20:52 |
BarkingFish | shadeslayer, I think that should do the job, the bug's filed and ready for someone with a toolkit and a sledgehammer to work on. I've never figured out how to look at a kernel module, since they're normally already compiled when I see them. | 21:04 |
BarkingFish | I guess I'll have to learn how to see the workings of a .so one day :) | 21:04 |
BarkingFish | Guys, I'm going to need a little help here. I've been asked to test a mainline kernel in relation to the wifi bug I mentioned to you, shadeslayer | 21:32 |
BarkingFish | I have no idea whether this will screw my system up or what. | 21:32 |
shadeslayer | hmm | 21:33 |
shadeslayer | BarkingFish: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 21:33 |
shadeslayer | BarkingFish: install the latest debs for oneiric | 21:33 |
shadeslayer | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.1-rc10-oneiric/ << that one | 21:33 |
BarkingFish | well they confirmed the bug, it's a positive - so I'm doing their upstream testing :) | 21:34 |
BarkingFish | #878504 | 21:34 |
BarkingFish | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/878504 | 21:35 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 878504 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel module rtl8192cu fails to operate attached device correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:35 |
shadeslayer | awesome | 21:35 |
BarkingFish | shadeslayer, can I add that PPA direct to my repository? | 21:35 |
shadeslayer | no | 21:35 |
shadeslayer | you have to download the debs | 21:35 |
BarkingFish | ok then. Here we go, wish me luck :) | 21:35 |
BarkingFish | I have a feeling I'm going to need it... | 21:36 |
yofel | BarkingFish: you'll be fine as long you install the image, headers for your architecture and the arch all package | 21:37 |
yofel | BarkingFish: also, 'Confirmed' for kernel bugs means "All data present" and not "Confirmed" | 21:37 |
BarkingFish | right, well I got the i386 packs for the image, the headers and the all... so I better get going :) | 21:37 |
BarkingFish | do i need to regenerate grub or will that happen when I install the packages? | 21:38 |
yofel | will happen when the image installs | 21:38 |
BarkingFish | ok then. See you soon :) | 21:38 |
BarkingFish | well it's gonna be a disappointing night for the lp guys... the bug is still there upstream, not only that, but ndiswrapper isn't in that kernel either, so I couldn't even get on from my old wifi adapter! | 21:52 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: you need to check your SBK version using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290503 | 23:34 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: if your SBK version is v2 we'll have to do more hacking | 23:35 |
shadeslayer | ( lilstevie is the person to contact on #ubuntu-arm ) | 23:35 |
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