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afiestasScottK: aren't you comming to uds?15:12
ScottKCurrently taking a break from Ubuntu development.15:14
afiestasScottK: I hope it is not because the flame in the list :/ 15:15
ScottKNo, but I'm very disappointed in the Akonadi/kdepim transition.  I cannot make it work for me.  Currently using Thunderbird.15:16
ScottKThis is not at all motivational.15:16
afiestasScottK: I have been using Thunderbird for months, recently switched back at KMail15:17
afiestasI know the feeling is what I mean, and it depressed me too15:17
ScottKI have a new quad core laptop.15:17
afiestasbut in the other hand, we have many other stuff working really well now, so I keep my mind focused in them15:17
ScottKIf Akonadi is running, every time I resume (not start, resume) Akonadi and Nepomuk max out all CPUs for several minutes.15:18
ScottKThis is complete crap.15:18
alfor me it's cpu + i/o15:18
afiestasit is actually the combo of both that doesn't work15:18
yofelfor me it's cpu + memory15:18
afiestasif you disable email nepomuk feeding, then everything works well15:18
ScottKSo I got kdepim 4.4 working on oneiric, but it uses akonadi for addressbook and such.15:19
ScottKSo then it starts up and kills my system.15:19
ScottKI start to think Akonadi and Nepomuk will be the death of KDE.15:19
ScottKIf it's not working in 2011, when will it work?15:19
ali tried to start kmail recently, which choked badly on old akonadi resources15:19
yofelIMO nepomuk works ~ok, as long as you leave strigi out of the equation15:20
alhad to clean the database tables manually15:20
yofel*and* akonadi15:20
yofelcompared to akonadi, strigi is actually rather usable15:20
ScottKWith Thunderbird I can select 1000 messages and move them between IMAP folders in a second.15:20
ScottKThat takes minutes with Kmail2/Akonadi.15:21
afiestasyofel: nepomuk + file indexation works well as long as you use 4.7.2 or 4.615:21
yofeldepends, it still likes to randomly re-index my PDF's  - which eats cpu time on my eeepc15:22
yofelbut 4.7.3 should fix that I guess15:22
debfxon a related topic, I'm still not sure if you should SRU bug #873396 (disabling calendar in the clock pop-up and some krunner plugins)15:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 873396 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Precise) "akonadi shouldn't be launched on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87339615:24
debfxit saves some people from having to deal with akonadi. on the other hand it changes settings which is bad for a SRU15:25
ScottKdebfx: It probably has to be added to release notes at this point.15:25
debfxScottK: ok, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes and the post on kubuntu.org?15:29
ScottKI'd make the change for oneiric though so it's not forgotten.15:30
debfxok, I'll upload it to o-proposed15:41
ScottKdebfx: Sorry, I meant precise.15:51
ScottKI don't think it's appropriate for an SRU for exactly the reason you mention.15:52
ScottK(helps some, but it's a regression for others)15:52
debfxhm, yeah. I've already committed it to bzr16:02
Riddellbzr uncommit :)16:03
debfxs/committed/pushed/. but I want to keep it there16:04
kubotudebfx meant: "hm, yeah. I've already pushed it to bzr"16:04
Riddellhmm, I think I've broken Ubuntu One16:15
_Groo_hi/2 all17:17
_Groo_guys whats the channel for nepomuk devel?17:17
RiddellI'd guess #nepomuk 17:17
_Groo_Riddell: nepomuk-kde :)17:19
_Groo_anyone using strigi over here? and is with 4.7.2?17:20
_Groo_strigi still has amnesia for me :P17:20
Riddellit's not working for me at the moment17:22
_Groo_Riddell: can you elaborate? you didnt turn it on? or its broken?17:24
Riddellit's on but it doesn't return any results when I search17:24
Riddellthis is 4.7.117:24
_Groo_Riddell: but does it reindex over and over?17:25
debfxsomeone who cares about nepomuk could prepare a package with the indexing fixes from 4.7.317:28
* yofel looks some more at 4.7.217:35
debfxif you want more 4.7.2 packages in please upload them now so we can migrate them to -updates soon17:38
_Groo_debfx: true, just talked to trueg, its fixed in 4.7.3 :P17:39
yofeldebfx: I'll try to finish them now, there's only about 5 left that need checking17:41
debfxRiddell: how much of gnome does ubuntu one pull in?17:41
debfxyofel: thanks17:41
yofeldebfx: enough for SSO and gnome-keyring, but not much of the desktop17:41
_Groo_yofel: wasnt apachelogger working on a native kubuntu one? that got broken when they changed APIs?17:44
yofelhe was, and abandoned it17:44
debfxhm, has anyone tested it with an encryption layer (e.g. ecryptfs)?17:44
yofelwhat we need realistically is ksecretserviced and a qt edition of ubuntu-sso-client17:44
_Groo_debfx: should work, my home is encrypted and it works here *tm17:45
_Groo_yofel: ksecret is for 4.8, right?17:45
_Groo_yofel: should get integrated in kwallet?17:45
debfx_Groo_: do you sync the encryted or decrypted files?17:45
yofel_Groo_: no idea, it's WIP - that's all I know17:45
_Groo_debfx: decrypted17:46
_Groo_debfx: why would you want to sync encrypted files ? OO17:46
_Groo_debfx: its already encrypted on the server IMHO17:47
_Groo_debfx: if you are paranoid, use duplicity 17:47
debfx_Groo_: it's not and server side encryption isn't that useful anyway17:47
_Groo_debfx: or a tarball with truecrypt and sync that.. but it wouldnt be a actual sync anyway17:48
debfxduplicity is a backup tool, it doesn't do syncing17:48
_Groo_debfx: how so it would be useful? the private key stays on your machine... no one can acess your pr0n at the server side17:48
debfxafaik ecryptfs encryts files individually so that would be better than having an encrypted container17:49
_Groo_debfx: true17:49
_Groo_debfx: i advise against actually, to prone to misbehaviours17:50
debfx_Groo_: ubuntu one doesn't encrypt the files (only the transport is encrypted)17:51
_Groo_debfx: it should then :)17:51
_Groo_how do i send a private msg? i forgot, using webchat17:51
debfxtell that to the u1 devs ;)17:52
_Groo_isnt it suposed to be /msg?17:53
_Groo_better yet, open a private chat?17:54
_Groo_yeah, its a webchat problem :P17:54
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/konsole] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)17:58
yofelbug 875034 need looking at before we push the SRU17:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 875034 in Kubuntu PPA "Pulseaudio KDE integration broken with 4.7.2 updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87503417:59
debfxyofel: isn't that fixed when rebuilding against the latest libpulse?18:06
debfxwe still need to upload kde-l10n to o-proposed :o18:07
debfxany volunteers? :D18:07
yofeldebfx: yeah nvm that bug, kdemultimedia in the PPA's broken, the one in oneiric-proposed is fine18:10
yofelI can upload l10n - when I'm done with this and you've found nobody else18:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping ping ping18:11
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kstars] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)18:12
debfxmaybe we can talk apachelogger into it18:13
* bambee is upgrading to precise18:14
* yofel will do that after his SRU list is done18:15
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506)18:19
yofelok, that would be it with the SRU list18:21
yofelexcept for l10n18:22
* yofel goes back to backporting18:24
yofelhm, was just looking at the sponsoring queue - did anyone ever notice this: https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/ubuntu/oneiric/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings/+merge/63334 ?19:04
debfxyofel: that is blocked by https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/ubuntu/natty/plymouth/plymouth/+merge/6189719:23
* apachelogger is not here19:35
yofelmight as well do l10n then19:39
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common] Philip Muškovac * 109 * debian/changelog New upstream release (svn: 1256933, type: stable) LP: #87250619:40
=== skreech_ is now known as Daskreech
BarkingFishwho would you report a bug with a kernel module to?  Do they go on launchpad the same as others, or do they go to somewhere else?20:46
shadeslayerBarkingFish: lp ... use ubuntu-bug linux ( afaik )20:50
BarkingFishshadeslayer, thanks.  I have a wifi adapter which uses the rtl8192cu kernel module, but the module is buggy - when you attach your wifi adapter, the dang thing refuses to scan for any networks :)20:52
BarkingFishi even tried to force a scan with iwlist wlan1 scanning and it came back with nothing whatsoever20:52
BarkingFishshadeslayer, I think that should do the job, the bug's filed and ready for someone with a toolkit and a sledgehammer to work on.  I've never figured out how to look at a kernel module, since they're normally already compiled when I see them.21:04
BarkingFishI guess I'll have to learn how to see the workings of a .so one day :)21:04
BarkingFishGuys, I'm going to need a little help here.  I've been asked to test a mainline kernel in relation to the wifi bug I mentioned to you, shadeslayer 21:32
BarkingFishI have no idea whether this will screw my system up or what.21:32
shadeslayerBarkingFish: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/21:33
shadeslayerBarkingFish: install the latest debs for oneiric21:33
shadeslayerhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.1-rc10-oneiric/ << that one21:33
BarkingFishwell they confirmed the bug, it's a positive - so I'm doing their upstream testing :)21:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 878504 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel module rtl8192cu fails to operate attached device correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:35
BarkingFishshadeslayer, can I add that PPA direct to my repository?21:35
shadeslayeryou have to download the debs21:35
BarkingFishok then. Here we go, wish me luck :)21:35
BarkingFishI have a feeling I'm going to need it...21:36
yofelBarkingFish: you'll be fine as long you install the image, headers for your architecture and the arch all package21:37
yofelBarkingFish: also, 'Confirmed' for kernel bugs means "All data present" and not "Confirmed"21:37
BarkingFishright, well I got the i386 packs for the image, the headers and the all... so I better get going :)21:37
BarkingFishdo i need to regenerate grub or will that happen when I install the packages?21:38
yofelwill happen when the image installs21:38
BarkingFishok then. See you soon :)21:38
BarkingFishwell it's gonna be a disappointing night for the lp guys... the bug is still there upstream, not only that, but ndiswrapper isn't in that kernel either, so I couldn't even get on from my old wifi adapter!21:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: you need to check your SBK version using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=129050323:34
shadeslayerQuintasan: if your SBK version is v2 we'll have to do more hacking 23:35
shadeslayer( lilstevie is the person to contact on #ubuntu-arm )23:35

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