[00:57] I am going to be crazy. After I upgrade my lubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10, everything become very slow. [00:57] I am using btrfs as my root fs. [00:58] btrfsck said there are some error inode, but why can't them be fixed? [01:00] now, each operate that will access the hard disk will spend a lot of time. [01:01] can anybody help me? any advice is welcome. [01:01] thank you [01:10] wb holmescn [01:11] oh, my week internet connection [01:11] i didn't recieve any message before I relogin. [01:11] as far as I recall, btrfs was not ready for being for the root fs, still had some gremlins. [01:11] I think so. [01:12] so I decided to reinstall my Lubuntu this weekend. [01:12] back to ext4 [01:12] but before I upgrade to 11.10, everything seems very well [01:13] and I read some news that said kernel 3.0 improve the performance of btrfs. [01:14] holmescn: as there are no entries for 11.10 at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs I'm pretty stuck as to what to advise. That is the active area for reference to. [01:15] perhaps back to ext4 is the best advise. [01:15] I suspect they are holding back for 12.04, as they did for ext4 under the 9.10 series which brought ext4 to the masses. [01:17] I have not really kept up with things for btrfs, last time I looked it was not a suitable boot area fs. Things change rapidly, but it is still on 'beta' release, so there will be gremlins. [01:19] holmescn: as one of the guru's states at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1389279 It is only tested on pre 11.10, they are still working things out. [01:21] * phillw omg, Iane has the 'knights that say "Ni"' as his logo.... [01:21] I am trying the btrfs just because i think the `copy on write' will take a better performance. [01:22] holmescn: Iane is a good guy, feel free to drop a note onto that thread & follow it. [01:25] thank you, phillw. I am reading it. [01:25] * phillw is still chuckling at the knights that say 'Ni', sorry..... [01:26] phillw: It's Monty Python week on the forum [01:27] He he.... as I would expect from Iane, a great logo :) === robotman is now known as AlexAv [03:37] What is the difference between the ubuntu and lubuntu installer? Are there lubuntu netboot images somewhere? === Ukikie is now known as Unit193 [05:50] weird. my ssid (a decimal number) gets translated in connections into hex making it all but impossible for autoconnect [05:50] editing the ssid back to decimal allows it to connect [05:51] deleting previous entries and connecting-- no problem [05:59] so is that a problem with networkmanager? [05:59] where should i file this bug i guess is the question [06:14] launchpad [06:14] against nm-applet [06:14] and not network manager? [06:14] you use network-manager-applet or something like that [06:14] (since it actually saves the settings) [06:14] the dialog in "edit connections" isn't the applet itself is it? [06:14] or you can use network manager [06:14] k [06:14] use it [06:15] they will forward it to correct place [06:15] great [06:15] ah ha found a similar one [06:16] aw sweet and there's a possible fix [06:16] in case someone else faces this issue of decimal being translated to, ultimately, unicode: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/874328 [06:16] Ubuntu bug 874328 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "numeric SSID becomes "e" on the connection" [Medium,In progress] [08:46] hi just installed Lubuntu 11.10 Standard x64 Need help with sound options. i right click on speaker icon at bottom right of system tray and i am unable to get control panel for sound settings [08:47] Sound works just not able to pick from speakers to head set [08:48] hi :) [08:48] how can i set the default session in lubuntu? [08:49] not getting much help here aldos seems like a dead channel [08:50] where can i go to get help? [09:03] hi [09:16] still sometimes lubuntu desktop dissapears - but no problem here, using the filemanager then :) [11:37] Hello everyone [11:38] i just found out about lubuntu and it seems pretty awesome [11:39] does anyone know why exactly ubuntu chose LXDE as official windows manager spin? [11:43] that question doesnt make sense [11:43] LXDE is not the "official" ubuntu windows manager [11:44] actually, Lubuntu uses Openbox as a Window Manager and LXDE is just taskbars and applications on top of that ;) [12:10] <_8sVn> anyone ever had the trouble of chromium crashing the X server in a pretty unpredictable fashion when started in 11.04?? =) [12:12] <_8sVn> guess there is a connection to the gma500 chipset of my eeePC1101, but i dindt find any forum posts directly connected to this issue with chromium or the emgd drivers === TheDaniel0108 is now known as Daniel0108 [12:45] ;) [12:57] How can i configure ubuntu one on lubuntu? [12:59] ubuntu one, is that that online storage thing? [12:59] yeah [12:59] ubuntu is supposed to give away 5gb of cloud space just for using the os [12:59] right. [13:00] after about a year i finally found some use for it :D [13:00] but i cant seem to find the client anywhere... [13:01] i think i found it in the synaptic, installing [13:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1490553 [13:01] yea [13:02] I use ubuntuone in Lubuntu. You need to install ubuntuone-client-gnome to get the menu entry and gui. [13:02] says last posting [13:06] hey sir my task panel icons are getting dislocated on wallpaper plzz help [14:41] Is there a way to get rid of the notifications in the systray? I don't mind (actually quite like) the pop-up notifications, but the list of notifications that keeps popping into the systray is very annoying. [15:05] list of notifications? [15:08] how can I create a bootable USB in Lubuntu? [15:10] anybody knows please? [15:13] use the usb creator? [15:13] rezbd: should be the same way as you would in ubuntu [15:13] no it doesn't work in that way [15:13] what did you try to do. [15:14] I'm trying to make a bootable usb for puppy linux [15:14] ok, then download unetbootin [15:15] http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [15:16] the given instruction for Ubuntu is like >> System > Adminstration > Startup Disk [15:16] thank KM0201 , gonna check it [15:17] rezbd: youneed to install usb-creator... install it from synaptic (i think thats the name of the package, usb-creator) [15:17] then its under system tools on lubuntu [15:18] there are no "Startup Disk" under system tools KM0201 [15:18] did you install them? [15:19] did you miss where i said.."you need to install usb-creator" [15:19] KM0201, I'm gonna try it right now. thanks :) [15:19] the package is called usb-creator-gtk [15:20] install it and its dependencies [15:21] KM0201: Sorry for the late response, was afk for a while. The "list of notifications" is what I call the little envelope icon with a plus that appears in the systray if you ignore a notification. [15:21] If you still don't understand, I can provide a screenshot :) [15:21] ErwinJunge: are you using Lubuntu?... i've never saw that on Lubuntu [15:22] Ubuntu, yes.. not Lubuntu [15:24] KM0201, finished to install [15:24] usb-creator [15:24] did you install usb-creator-gtk? [15:24] for Gnome? yes [15:24] I've just avoided kde [15:24] if so, look under system tools, and "startup disk creator" is there [15:24] KM0201: http://tinypic.com/r/ap6uf7/7 [15:25] This is lubuntu 11.10 (installed during beta 2) [15:25] yes it's there, thank you so much KM0201 :) [15:25] hmm [15:25] right click your panel, add remove panel items [15:26] go down, and see what is right before the "clock" [15:26] (dont remove sys tray [15:26] or notification area [15:27] That would the System Tray and above that Volume Control [15:27] hmm [15:28] so its in the system try for some reason [15:28] i wonder why i dont hve that [15:28] Yup, like I just said :) [15:28] Maybe it's a top vs bottom thing? There was a vanishing menu bug in beta that only affected top panels [15:30] Just verified, and I also have this when setting the panel to the bottom. [15:30] So not a top vs bottom thing. Maybe it's a remnant from beta and I should do a clean install? [15:32] KM0201, does Lubuntu run on a core i3 processor? it's may be a stupid question but I'm serious [15:32] acutally, i jsut thought of something, you're on 11.10, i'm on my desktop which is using 11.04 [15:32] rezbd: yes, it will [15:32] why do you think it wouldnt? [15:32] because I've failed today [15:33] I've installed Lubuntu from a bootable USB [15:34] but using same USB I failed to run it on my friends notebook [15:34] well, if it failed,it had nothng to do w/ an i3... [15:34] i've installed lubuntu o machines much slower than i3's [15:35] I didn't understand why it didn't run on a core i3 processor. it surprised me a lot. [15:35] rezbd: I'm on an Atom N450 at the moment, so am very doubtful that it would not run on an i3 [15:35] What did it fail with exactly? [15:36] ErwinJunge, it just shows a black screen, [15:36] Could be a lot of hw related causes, possibly video related. Does an i3 have integrated graphics? [15:36] I'm sorry I don't know [15:36] black screen, or black screen with blinking cursor? [15:36] my netbook is a Atorm processor [15:37] yes [15:37] with blinking cursor [15:37] can you type in it? [15:37] no I couldn't [15:37] hmmm [15:37] it'll boot on an atom processor to. [15:37] yes it did boot on my atom processor [15:38] and I'm running it on my atom processor right now [15:38] well if it will boot on an atom, what on earth makes you think it won't boot on an i3? [15:38] it surprised me a lot [15:38] or i should say, that it *shouldn't* boot o an i3. [15:38] It's very unlikely to be related to the processor in question. You've found a bug though [15:38] .. there's som eother underlying issue if it didn't boot on the i3.. has nothign to do w/ the OS [15:39] I think nobody think to run Lubuntu on a core i3 processor [15:40] rezbd: Can you try installing plain Ubuntu on the i3 machine? [15:40] no I didn't ErwinJunge [15:40] I don't have Ubuntu right now [15:40] and my netspeed is so slow that I'm afraid to download it [15:40] Please do, it's most likely a bug upstream from Lubuntu, so in Ubuntu or the Linux kernel. [15:41] ErwinJunge, mmm so should I try Ubuntu on it? [15:41] It would help localize the problem [15:42] it will take up to 8 hours to download an iso :S [15:42] for me [15:42] If Ubuntu has the same problem -> not related to Lubuntu specifically. If Ubuntu does work --> Lubuntu bug. [15:42] Wow, so that test is out of the question :) [15:43] haha but if it's a serious issue, I will do it [15:43] How can I enable audio in LUbuntu 11.10 64-bit via HDMI? I've just moved over to lubuntu on my pc, never had to do this on my netbook. [15:44] The other option is waiting for more knowledgeable people to appear here to tell you what to test/do/report based on what you have now. I don't know enough to help you any further, sorry. [15:45] ErwinJunge, that's a lot of your concern :) [15:45] for* [15:46] Happy to help :) [15:48] ErwinJunge, this is what my internet connectiohttp://www.speedtest.net/result/1543866861.pngn speed is [15:48] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1543866861.png [15:48] so I think now you can guess why am I afraid to download an Ubuntu iso [15:49] rezbd: Are you on a mobile internet connection? [15:50] ErwinJunge, yes I am [15:50] dial up [15:51] Oh, so not only is it slow, it's also expensive. The "wait for more knowledgeable people" option is definitely better :) [15:51] haha thanks [15:52] Is there a way to install pulseaudio instead of alsa in lubuntu? [16:25] Can't get HDMI audio working [16:25] How can I get it working? [16:29] kvarley: did you get pulse audio installed? [16:29] KM0201: Doing it now [16:29] and are you sure your audio device is recognized by lubuntu? [16:29] KM0201: I don't think it is by Alsa but I know it works with Pulse so I'm going to install pulse [16:29] ok. [16:30] so sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol [16:30] if you're already installing pulseaudio, when its done, install pavucontrol [16:30] KM0201: Thanks =) [16:32] Does anyone here have experience installing Lubuntu in a PowerPC. I've download the official Lubuntu PowerPC Alternate Install ISO. I an installing from CD. I can boot into the CD and the installer loads to ram, but when the installer goes to detect the CD to install Lubuntu in cannot detect the CD-Rom. Any suggestions? [16:32] KM0201: Which applet can I install so I can control the volume? PulseAudio works, just would like an applet =) [16:33] kvarley: now that, im not sure... [16:33] KM0201: No problem, thanks for all your help =) [16:50] Stephen-ie: still here? [16:51] (assuming you are) [16:51] wxl: Yep [16:51] i'm the (lone?) ppc guy [16:51] so i can help you with the process [16:51] wxl: lol, poor you [16:51] are you using the minimal install? [16:51] yeah you're using alternate [16:51] sorry [16:51] wxl: I am using the Alternate Instal [16:51] so i had the same problem with mine [16:52] i could not get it to read no matter wat [16:52] wxl: from here [16:52] wxl: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/ [16:52] wxl: hmm, bugger [16:52] i ended up using the live cd [16:52] which has its own set of problems but they're not insurmountable [16:52] i tried EVERYTHING to get the alternate going [16:53] sadly there is no netboot cd that i could find [16:53] but another alternative is getting the ubuntu netboot [16:53] installing ubuntu [16:53] installing lubuntu [16:53] wxl: Which live CD did you use [16:53] and then removing all the extra crap [16:53] an older one from like 30 sept [16:54] should be same difference [16:54] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [16:54] actually if you want to help me test something on that, i'd be quite grateful to you [16:55] wxl: Ah you mean the Ubuntu Live CD not a specific Lubuntu Live CD [16:55] nono [16:55] wrong url sorry [16:56] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/ [16:56] there's where it's hiding [16:57] so i'll give you the heads up on three problems you are likely to face: [16:57] wxl: one sec [16:57] 1. ubiquity fails because it needs some updates. copy/paste the list and sudo apt-get update it [16:58] 2. pygobject bug causes ubiquity crash: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/856669 .. solution is sudo apt-get install python-gobject [16:58] Ubuntu bug 856669 in pygobject (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pygobject 3.0.0-0svn1 does not work with custom python GTK widgets" [Critical,Fix released] [16:58] (both of those fail right at execute) [16:59] 3. half-way through installation fails to connect to mirrors [16:59] that's the annoying one [16:59] basically it's going to make you connect to the internet and download packages [16:59] i don't care if you uncheck the option at the beginning and/or if you don't have a connection [17:00] it will still try and fail [17:00] so you must be connected [17:00] solution is supposedly to edit /etc/hosts and have mirror point at ports.ubuntu.com [17:00] which works [17:00] but i was thinking the other day a better solution would be to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change mirror to ports.ubuntu.com [17:01] an example of a bad line in sources.list: "deb http://mirror/ubuntu oneiric main restricted" which of course should be "deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu oneiric main restricted" [17:02] i didn't realize that was ultimately the cause until after the install [17:02] wxl: Ok I am kind of following you, I've never had to mess with an Ubuntu install, so this is kind of new to me. I am not an experienced Mac PPC or Lubuntu user. I am doing this for a friend, trying to breath some life into an old iBook. I needed something light, hence why I chose Lubuntu [17:02] it's a good choice, and don't worry-- i can make this super simple for you [17:03] wxl: Are you the only person so far that you know of doing a PPC install? [17:03] Stephen-ie: no there are some others on the ubuntu forums in the apple section [17:03] Stephen-ie: i think i'm the only one on oneiric tho [17:03] Stephen-ie: i've yet to encounter any other ppc'ers here [17:04] Stephen-ie: so anyways after you download the iso and get a disc made and get booted in there, let me know and i';ll walk you through the rest. [17:04] wxl: Ok cool, before I get as far as actually doing the install. I need to find out what capabilites does the installer have in regard to partitioning and existing OS X installation [17:05] Stephen-ie: it makes it super simple.. the default set up will be to install them along side one another [17:05] Stephen-ie: i just don't know if it defaults to booting to lubuntu or os x.. but we can tweak that if need be [17:06] wxl: Ok, but I will need to reduce the size of the existing OS X install. It takes up all the drive space (20 GB drive) but it could be reduced to 5 GB's [17:06] Stephen-ie: are you usually a ubuntu user? if not, what's your preferred platform? [17:06] wxl [17:07] Stephen-ie: yeah well i'm pretty sure that's what it does, but i can't tell you with 100% certainty because i just wiped it clean [17:07] Stephen-ie: i was going to use mac on linux .. that's a project for another day tho [17:07] wxl: so I need to know if the installer can reduce the size on an exisitng OS X installation, without out destroying that partition and partition table [17:08] wxl: Ubuntu is my distro of choice yes, I just want things simple and ubiquitous [17:09] wxl: So before I go down the road of down the install I will look and what Distro Installers can successfully resize and exisiting OS X install. [17:10] wxl: So far I haven't found one that can. The Debian PPC installer can't resize in can only wipe or install alongside [17:10] hold [17:15] wxl: The PPCRCD http://ppcrcd.pld-linux.org can boot to a PPC Mac and has the Apple Mac Partitioner for Linux http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/powerpc/mac-fdisk.txt which appears to be able to resise and exisiting partition but it's as complicated as hell, well to me anyway. I do have an original Mac OS X Install CD and you can edit the parition from that, but if you resise and exisiting partition with it, it just wipes both [17:16] wxl: My main goal is to be able to install and light Linux distro that is also easy to use, alongside and exisiting OS X install. Something I thought would be easy, but it appears not. [17:16] wxl: holding [17:16] Stephen-ie: working, oin phone.. [17:17] wxl: no problem === bodhizazen is now known as UBTCouncil === UBTCouncil is now known as bodhizazen === bodhizazen is now known as UBTCouncil [17:26] you'd think dual booting w/ a mac, would be easy, for some reason though, it's a PITA [17:28] Stephen-ie: debian is a little poopy that way but looks like ubuntu should have no problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall [17:29] KM0201: how so? it would seem fairly simple.. couple yaboot entries, no woop [17:29] i dunno, just always gave me issues. [17:29] intel macs still use yaboot? [17:30] wxl: Ye I am aware of Ubuntu's general ability to resize partitions successfully, hence why I thought this would be easy [17:30] i was referring to PPC macs [17:30] KM0201: yah should be too troublesome.. don't think. [17:31] wxl: well, i only have 1 real experience, and it was a pain for some reason, might have been my lack of experience at the time (it was quite a while ago) [17:31] but even then, dual booting w/ windows was very easy [17:31] wxl: But it appears when it comes to PPC's they use a partitioning table which is not easy to resize and this mac-fdisk seems to be the only thing that claims it can do it [17:31] KM0201: admittedly yaboot is not.. uhhh.. quite as easy as with grub but it just takes a little knowledge [17:32] Stephen-ie: oh right you have hfs+ [17:33] Stephen-ie: why not resize in disk utility in os x? === AmberJain is now known as AmberJ [17:33] wxl: Yap, it seems all PPC pre OS X 15 use HFS+, not that I know what the implications of that are [17:36] i'd personally just try to run it through and see what happens [17:36] if it gives you a warning about wiping, then get out of there [17:36] wxl: Using and OX X Install CD does give you the option to use the Disk Utility to modify the partitions on and exisiting HDD. So I was going to try this, but in modifying the HDD with OS X 10.2.8 on it, it gave me the option to split the partition in two, so I was thinking I keep one half as the OS X Install and the other for Linux. But then I go to confirm this it warns me that in modifity the partition it will delete the data [17:37] i tried something similar in 10.4 but it couldn't handle the resize for some odd reason [17:37] (different problem) [17:37] like i said i'd just try to run through ubuntu installer [17:38] wxl: I can't reinstall the OS X that is there, It has purchased software on it, Word, Photoshop with no backup disks. And the Mac OS X install disk I do have is not the original, it is a torrent download, I just needed it to boot into the Disk Utility [17:40] wxl: Ye I am downloaded the regurlar Lubuntu PPC installer ISO Now. How I didn't find that before I don't know. The Lubuntu page is a bit sketchy with it's links, I couldn't find links to PPC stuff anywhere, only found the CD Image pages through a Google Search [17:42] yeah well they're sort of holding off on officially 11.10 ppc support [17:43] which is the first canonical lubuntu release.. which is where ppc kind of comes into the picture [17:43] before that there was no ppc at all [17:43] so be thankful :D [17:45] wxl: Yes of course, although from looking at DistroWatch it seems even Ubuntu only support PPC from time to time, not on all versions. So there seems to be no consistency of PPC support in all Ubuntu Family Derivatives [17:45] correct [17:46] it is not "officially" supported [17:47] of course i think the universe and multiverse repos aren't either :D [17:47] wxl: My other option is MintPPC which was built by a guy that got Lubuntu running on PPC before there was a PPC version, was impressed with results but felt he could do better. So it looks like MintPPC is a stripped down version of Debian/Mint. His install process is a net install [17:48] and they exist as an easy-to-click option on EVERY SINGLE buntu [17:48] yeah i saw that but didn't like his install process [17:48] i think debian's is annoying enough [17:48] wxl: I'd like to try the Lubuntu version and the MinPPC version and compare them [17:49] i was kind of thinking about doing a multiboot with debian and mintppc [17:49] but that's a rainy day project [17:49] at best [17:50] wxl: what stalled me is the ability to edit the partitions. If I can confidently understand and use mac-fdisk I might be ok. I am just afraid of fucking up his partions which I can't recover from, well not with 100% certainty [17:50] Stephen-ie: again, what's your platform of choice? [17:51] wxl: Mine is Ubuntu, just for ease of use an ubiquitous [17:51] Stephen-ie: what's your command line experience like? any experience with partitioning? [17:52] I love using Linux, but at the same time I don't things to be difficult just for the sake of it [17:52] wxl: None [17:53] wxl: I always used GParted on Parted Magic whenever I want to mess with partitions, its easy to use and gives me some confidence I won't mess it up. But GParted doesn't support PPC [17:53] right [17:54] wxl: I have basic command line experience that comes with being a new Ubuntu user, been a user for a 2 years now [17:54] yeah i'm wondering if you can do this at all [17:55] Stephen-ie, what do you mean gparted does not support PPC? [17:55] bioterror: s/ppc/hfs+ [17:56] hfs+ is steaming pile of :-----) [17:56] something what my son generates into his diapers [17:57] hfs+ needs hfsprogs [17:57] bioterror: I downloaded the GParted Live ISO and it wasn't recognised by the PPC machine and I don't remember seeing support for booting on a PPC machine on their site [17:57] Stephen-ie: read the end of that mac-fisk man page.. it really suggests against it [17:58] huh? why wouldn't gparted support PPC? [17:58] micahg, still you need to disable journaling for example if you're accessing it from GNU/Linux system [17:58] it's not about ppc [17:58] it's about hfs+ [17:58] hfs+ [17:58] it's about a LiveCD system that does not have a PowerPC version ;) [17:59] try an (L)Ubuntu PPC live CD then [17:59] squeeze (stable) (gnome): GNOME partition editor [17:59] 0.7.0-1: amd64 armel i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc [17:59] for example [17:59] might do it [17:59] of course, isn't that what the installer uses? [18:00] wxl: How the f*k do you do that "To avoid this issue, create MacOS partitions within MacOS and then don't resize them in mac-fdisk." ah now I am really messed up [18:01] i assume they're talking about using disk utility [18:01] of course that only works non-destructively in like 10.4 on [18:02] Ok as far as GParted goes, I know it can create and possiblly edit HFS/+ partitions as I had to create a HFS partition on my external drive in order for Mac OS X 10.2 to read it. So GParted supports HFS [18:03] Hi all, is there a way to make the desktop backgrounds change every so often, like we were able to do in gnome 2.0 or ubuntu 11.04 classic? [18:03] Stephen-ie: so follow bioterror's advice.. use a live cd, then install gparted and use it [18:03] but if I want to use GParted Live CD, I need one that can boot on PPC architecture, which I don't see that GParted CD's not Parted Magic CD's can [18:03] (or just go through the installer which i think will have the same effect) [18:03] Stephen-ie, be more creative [18:04] ok hold on, let me digest these suggestions [18:04] why? [18:04] I've used about any graphical livecd and installed gparted for that kind of dirty work [18:05] a live cd is a live cd [18:05] never used gparted live cd or parted magic [18:05] or what ever that was [18:05] assuming you have enough ram you could "install" all kinds of crap [18:05] RAM is almost free [18:06] heh [18:06] * HyperShock wants to install some crap so h e can have an animated desktop in lubuntu [18:06] 10 euros and you can pick 4GB of 1333MHz DDR3 from my front door [18:06] wxl: I was under the understanding that Live CD's are architecture dependant. So you need a different Live CD for X86, amd64 and PPC [18:06] * wxl sighs [18:06] those are samsun branded with serial numbers starting with KN [18:07] Stephen-ie, for real? [18:07] Stephen-ie: i have you a link way up there for where you can download a ppc lubuntu live cd, remember? [18:08] http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/2011.10.19_04-00-01/archlinux-2011.10.19_04-00-01-netinstall-dual.iso here's a livecd with x86 and i686 ;) [18:08] well I have live CD's for Ubuntu x86 and amd64 and Parted Magic x86 which this iBook PPC cannot see when it boots [18:08] oh my god [18:08] i feel like i'm talking to myself [18:08] wxl: I'm following [18:08] Stephen-ie, that's becouse PowerPC is not x86 [18:09] you see [18:09] !powerpc [18:09] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [18:09] wxl: I've just finished downloading the Lubuntu PPC Live CD now, going to try in a minute [18:09] Stephen-ie: good come back to me when you got it loaded [18:10] * wxl glues his hair back on [18:10] wxl, did you pull your hair like homer in simpsons when he heard marge was pregnant? :D [18:10] bioterror: That's my point, Live CD's are architecture dependent, you need a Live CD for PowerPC, which GParted nor Parted Magic don't provide [18:11] Stephen-ie, whine to them [18:11] * HyperShock would like to know the name of the package that has to be installed that allows the desktop to have automatically changing backgrounds in lubuntu (ubuntu 11.10)... ? :) thanks a bunch. [18:11] "your livecd is a "RACIST"!!" ;) [18:11] architecturist [18:12] HyperShock: really? ok. well, do you want rotating backgrounds that are static or animated ones? [18:12] bioterror: I am not winning, I am just trying to find a program that can edit and resize and exisiting Mac OS X install on a PPC, which I have not been able to find except for mac-fdisk which seems very risky, in their own words [18:13] wxl: I away to try this Lubunu Live CD now, will be you be here long? [18:13] is that Mac OS X 10.3? [18:14] static rotating ones would be nice. animated ones would be exceptional. and. animated ones that rotate with each others would be spectacular! :D [18:14] Stephen-ie: all day long [18:14] or newer? [18:14] bioterror: he's on 10.2 [18:14] whaaat [18:14] for real?! [18:14] bioterror: Mac OS X 10.2.8 [18:14] whhhhhhhhasdasd [18:14] TRASH IT! [18:14] old and crappy HFS+ [18:15] It's an old iBook I want to breath some life into with a light linux distro, but I also need to retain the existing installed OS X partition [18:15] what's so precious in 10 years old OS X? [18:15] HyperShock: try wallpapertray for static and compiz with xwinwrap for dynamic [18:15] trashing it aint an option for now [18:15] bioterror: he bought some crappy ms apps [18:15] 10.4 got a case sensitive HFS+ [18:15] wxl thank you [18:15] and some other tweaks [18:16] I preferred UFS over HFS+ on my 10.3 [18:16] bioterror: the way i look at it, he's doing his friend a favor at least by getting linux on it [18:16] bioterror: ..and said friend will probably learn to embrace it and eventually can os x [18:16] bioterror: so be nice :D [18:16]