[06:19] <AlanBell> SeaJay: ok, I will check the first one again later, might have been something wrong with the encoding process
[08:56] <fregl> maco: I am coming to UDS. I am not sure how to make kde apps happier... I don't really have time to dive into this. There might be some fixes that are easy to backport to Qt 4.7 but there are enough patches already...
[09:46] <Pendulum> TheMuso: jono asked me to pull together a list of accessiblity bugs/issues that need to be priority for Precise as a way of seeing if we can pull together something to attract community developers (to supplement the wonderful work you and apinheiro are doing). Should I include things on your blueprint? (the idea is to pull together the list in the next week so that we can look at them/e-mail Jason about the ciritical ones) and then 
[09:47] <apinheiro> Pendulum, well, I think that it is a good moment to update that blueprint, afaik it is somewhat outdated
[09:47] <apinheiro> so for me it seems a good idea
[09:49] <Pendulum> I'll look at the blueprint (I'm thinking of the one that Luke started today)
[09:59] <Pendulum> apinheiro: you're not going to be at UDS, are you?
[10:00] <apinheiro> I fear that not
[10:03] <Pendulum> I didn't think so, but wanted to double check. Hopefully at some point we'll be in the same place at the same time as I'd like to meet you!
[10:10] <TheMuso> Pendulum: Feel free to include stuff on tha blueprint. What I have put there is currently a dumping ground for things I intend to tackle this cycle. At this point, I feel I can get through them all, but I need to go through them again and work out what will take more/less time etc.
[10:10] <TheMuso> Pendulum: But things like the eZoom unity rendering bug IMO is high priority, and something which DX will need to be onboard with.
[10:11] <TheMuso> ...and you are up late.
[10:14] <Pendulum> yeah, the eZoom bug is one of the things I discussed directly in conversation with jono yesterday
[10:14] <Pendulum> TheMuso: do you want me to e-mail you the logs?
[10:14] <Pendulum> I'm actually up early :)
[10:16] <TheMuso> Pendulum: If you don't mind, thanks.
[10:16] <TheMuso> I'm on doing vinux related work.
[10:20] <Pendulum> cool :)
[13:03] <maco> fregl: we'll be on 4.8 in 11.10 anyway
[13:04] <fregl> maco: in 11.10? isn't that just released?
[13:04] <maco> erk
[13:04] <maco> i mean 12.04
[13:04] <fregl> :)
[13:04] <maco> brainfail
[13:04] <fregl> np, I figured
[13:04] <maco> what year is it again?
[13:06] <maco> anyway, some kde widgets are too far off from anything in qt, right? so theyll need special code
[13:11] <webczat> hey
[13:18] <maco> TheMuso: i read that blueprint's name as the other "Polish"
[13:20] <webczat> mmmm fsckin net
[13:30] <fregl> maco: I don't know. which ones? khtml definitively... but I'm not aware of so many really custom widgets. kratingwidget, but that's not as widely used...
[13:31] <fregl> all in all kde works surprisingly good with just the qt accessibility
[13:31] <maco> i definitely remember khtml being bad. did konsole have issues too?
[13:42] <webczat> fregl: about qt-accessibility, I still have small problems with qt accessibility of skype, for example text/password fields not recognized and some things with the html being read
[13:42] <fregl> I bet konsole has issues
[13:43] <fregl> webczat: I'm still surprised anything works with skype
[13:43] <webczat> fregl: why?
[13:43] <fregl> webczat: normal lineedits not working are probably missing a patch from Qt 4.8. the backporting was not done in the most careful fashion.
[13:44] <fregl> webczat: cause nobody tested it at all and who know what kind of hacks they use
[13:44] <fregl> it's good to hear though
[13:44] <webczat> fregl: I actually wanted to say that I see the text but the text box is not seen as a text box etc
[13:52] <webczat> and I do not want to wait till ubuntuu 12
[14:07] <fregl> webczat: file bugs with ubuntu and I am happy to help along but I can't do the work by myself.
[17:04] <SeaJay> AlanBell: I saw your message last night (my last night), but I dropped off line not long after that.
[17:05] <SeaJay> AlanBell: Any luck finding out what my problem was with that first video link you sent me? Also, I haven't checked with anything other than Orca, but any idea why I can't find those links off of your web page?
[17:06] <maco> Pendulum: should i copy over postponed items from oneiric to precise?
[17:06] <maco> (on the new blueprint i mean)
[17:06] <maco> SeaJay: i think he said he'd accidentally forgotten to include the links on the webpage
[17:07] <SeaJay> maco: Ah, that's right. He did mention that yesterday. Sorry, I forgot!
[17:08] <SeaJay> maco: Actually I read that message too quickly, and I thought he meant that he'd forgotten to paste them into this chat, but that was my bad.
[17:14] <AlanBell> SeaJay: not done it yet, and not updated the blog post (couldn't find my password to log in to it!)
[17:59] <AlanBell> SeaJay: updated the blog with links for the first two videos, I am going to re-record the third one about onboard as there are some fairly big changes to it in an update
[18:03] <AlanBell> SeaJay: the first video was just of the installer process, It doesn't get to the login screen, just the end of the installer then I describe what happens when you restart
[18:03] <SeaJay> AlanBell: Gotcha! thanks! Did you find anything wrong with that first video? Was it accidentally truncated?
[18:03] <AlanBell> I will check the second video as I might have given you the links the wrong way round!
[18:04] <SeaJay> AlanBell: Ah, I'm probably talking about the 2nd video on the page. I'll go check in a bit. I think it was the first link you gave me in this chat though. sorry for the confusion.
[18:04] <AlanBell> ah crap, yes the audio cuts out
[18:05] <Pendulum> maco: technical ones, ask Luke
[18:05] <SeaJay> AlanBell: It starts off with you describing the log on screen and then you just cut out abruptly after mentioning the volume button and the power indicator.
[18:05] <Pendulum> maco: technical ones, ask Luke
[18:05] <AlanBell> SeaJay: yes, it does
[18:06] <maco> Pendulum: i was thinking of my technical ones that i didnt get around to because im a lazy goodfernuthin :P
[18:06] <AlanBell> ok, I have two videos to re-record then I think
[18:06] <maco> (also because kubuntu's installer was broken til almost beta)
[18:06] <Pendulum> yeah, I'd just double check with Luke first
[18:06] <maco> ok
[18:06] <Pendulum> I need to set up the community blue print
[18:06] <SeaJay> Ah, OK, thanks AlanBell!
[18:06] <Pendulum> and possibly a blue print for Accessibility from the Start
[18:07] <AlanBell> maco: is there a guide somewhere on installing precise yet?
[18:07] <maco> AlanBell: i havent even installed oneiric
[18:07] <maco> dont ask me!
[18:07] <AlanBell> :)
[18:08] <maco> i think the giant laptop is going to come to uds. not great with my back, but it can run on battery and it can compile stuff in a reasonable time
[18:08] <maco> half of which can be done by my netbook, and half of which can be done by my small laptop
[18:49]  * AlanBell installs an oneiric VM to upgrade to precises
[21:11] <AlanBell> joanie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology does that look good?