[06:19] SeaJay: ok, I will check the first one again later, might have been something wrong with the encoding process === API is now known as Guest29836 [08:56] maco: I am coming to UDS. I am not sure how to make kde apps happier... I don't really have time to dive into this. There might be some fixes that are easy to backport to Qt 4.7 but there are enough patches already... === Guest29836 is now known as apinheiro [09:46] TheMuso: jono asked me to pull together a list of accessiblity bugs/issues that need to be priority for Precise as a way of seeing if we can pull together something to attract community developers (to supplement the wonderful work you and apinheiro are doing). Should I include things on your blueprint? (the idea is to pull together the list in the next week so that we can look at them/e-mail Jason about the ciritical ones) and then [09:47] Pendulum, well, I think that it is a good moment to update that blueprint, afaik it is somewhat outdated [09:47] so for me it seems a good idea [09:49] I'll look at the blueprint (I'm thinking of the one that Luke started today) [09:59] apinheiro: you're not going to be at UDS, are you? [10:00] I fear that not [10:03] I didn't think so, but wanted to double check. Hopefully at some point we'll be in the same place at the same time as I'd like to meet you! [10:10] Pendulum: Feel free to include stuff on tha blueprint. What I have put there is currently a dumping ground for things I intend to tackle this cycle. At this point, I feel I can get through them all, but I need to go through them again and work out what will take more/less time etc. [10:10] Pendulum: But things like the eZoom unity rendering bug IMO is high priority, and something which DX will need to be onboard with. [10:11] ...and you are up late. [10:14] yeah, the eZoom bug is one of the things I discussed directly in conversation with jono yesterday [10:14] TheMuso: do you want me to e-mail you the logs? [10:14] I'm actually up early :) [10:16] Pendulum: If you don't mind, thanks. [10:16] I'm on doing vinux related work. [10:20] cool :) === TheDaniel0108 is now known as Daniel0108 [13:03] fregl: we'll be on 4.8 in 11.10 anyway [13:04] maco: in 11.10? isn't that just released? [13:04] erk [13:04] i mean 12.04 [13:04] :) [13:04] brainfail [13:04] np, I figured [13:04] what year is it again? [13:06] anyway, some kde widgets are too far off from anything in qt, right? so theyll need special code [13:11] hey [13:18] TheMuso: i read that blueprint's name as the other "Polish" [13:20] mmmm fsckin net [13:30] maco: I don't know. which ones? khtml definitively... but I'm not aware of so many really custom widgets. kratingwidget, but that's not as widely used... [13:31] all in all kde works surprisingly good with just the qt accessibility [13:31] i definitely remember khtml being bad. did konsole have issues too? [13:42] fregl: about qt-accessibility, I still have small problems with qt accessibility of skype, for example text/password fields not recognized and some things with the html being read [13:42] I bet konsole has issues [13:43] webczat: I'm still surprised anything works with skype [13:43] fregl: why? [13:43] webczat: normal lineedits not working are probably missing a patch from Qt 4.8. the backporting was not done in the most careful fashion. [13:44] webczat: cause nobody tested it at all and who know what kind of hacks they use [13:44] it's good to hear though [13:44] fregl: I actually wanted to say that I see the text but the text box is not seen as a text box etc === kinoucho` is now known as kinouchou [13:52] and I do not want to wait till ubuntuu 12 [14:07] webczat: file bugs with ubuntu and I am happy to help along but I can't do the work by myself. [17:04] AlanBell: I saw your message last night (my last night), but I dropped off line not long after that. [17:05] AlanBell: Any luck finding out what my problem was with that first video link you sent me? Also, I haven't checked with anything other than Orca, but any idea why I can't find those links off of your web page? [17:06] Pendulum: should i copy over postponed items from oneiric to precise? [17:06] (on the new blueprint i mean) [17:06] SeaJay: i think he said he'd accidentally forgotten to include the links on the webpage [17:07] maco: Ah, that's right. He did mention that yesterday. Sorry, I forgot! [17:08] maco: Actually I read that message too quickly, and I thought he meant that he'd forgotten to paste them into this chat, but that was my bad. [17:14] SeaJay: not done it yet, and not updated the blog post (couldn't find my password to log in to it!) [17:59] SeaJay: updated the blog with links for the first two videos, I am going to re-record the third one about onboard as there are some fairly big changes to it in an update [18:03] SeaJay: the first video was just of the installer process, It doesn't get to the login screen, just the end of the installer then I describe what happens when you restart [18:03] AlanBell: Gotcha! thanks! Did you find anything wrong with that first video? Was it accidentally truncated? [18:03] I will check the second video as I might have given you the links the wrong way round! [18:04] AlanBell: Ah, I'm probably talking about the 2nd video on the page. I'll go check in a bit. I think it was the first link you gave me in this chat though. sorry for the confusion. [18:04] ah crap, yes the audio cuts out [18:05] maco: technical ones, ask Luke [18:05] AlanBell: It starts off with you describing the log on screen and then you just cut out abruptly after mentioning the volume button and the power indicator. [18:05] maco: technical ones, ask Luke [18:05] SeaJay: yes, it does [18:06] Pendulum: i was thinking of my technical ones that i didnt get around to because im a lazy goodfernuthin :P [18:06] ok, I have two videos to re-record then I think [18:06] (also because kubuntu's installer was broken til almost beta) [18:06] yeah, I'd just double check with Luke first [18:06] ok [18:06] I need to set up the community blue print [18:06] Ah, OK, thanks AlanBell! [18:06] and possibly a blue print for Accessibility from the Start [18:07] maco: is there a guide somewhere on installing precise yet? [18:07] AlanBell: i havent even installed oneiric [18:07] dont ask me! [18:07] :) [18:08] i think the giant laptop is going to come to uds. not great with my back, but it can run on battery and it can compile stuff in a reasonable time [18:08] half of which can be done by my netbook, and half of which can be done by my small laptop [18:49] * AlanBell installs an oneiric VM to upgrade to precises [21:11] joanie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology does that look good?