[00:07] <duanedesign> Niya: /3
[00:07] <duanedesign> oops
[01:29] <bnmorgan> having an error after first reboot trying to get my monitors to un-mirror
[02:32] <tabaxter_> A quick query. If I am mid-distribution upgrade, is it possible to hibernate my computer without completely screwing the process? I need to have the computer powered down in the next ten minutes in order for an electrician to work on the property.
[02:47] <pleia2> tabaxter_: there isn't really a safe way to do that, no (unless you're still in just the download phase)
[02:50] <tabaxter_> pleia2: I'm not, unfortunately. Thanks. is there a way that is more likely to result in a usable system?
[02:51] <pleia2> tabaxter_: not really, in the middle of an upgrade lots of things will be half configured and such :\
[02:51] <pleia2> it may not be bootable if you shut it down in the middle
[02:54] <tabaxter_> pleia2: If I do break it, would I be able to do an upgrade with a live CD to fix it?
[02:54] <pleia2> hard to say, doubtful
[02:54] <pleia2> you may be able to debug what is wrong with a livecd and bring the system back up so you can complete the upgrade, but even that is dicey
[02:54] <pleia2> and if things really go bad you can use the livecd to make a backup of your data at least so you can reinstall
[02:56] <tabaxter_> most of my valuable data is in dropbox/ubuntuone, so I'm not too concerned there. the big problem is my printer, etc. config and a number of apps which I'd have to reinstall and reconfigure.
[02:57] <tabaxter_> Do you know if I can stop it once it has reached the cleaning up stage?
[02:58] <tabaxter_> pleia2
[02:59] <pleia2> tabaxter_: stopping it any time in the upgrade process is risky (sorry, I'm at work, can't reply immediately)
[03:01] <tabaxter_> pleia2: no, that's okay. I wasn't intending to be pushy. I was just making sure it gave  an alert and you didn't think I hadn't replied. Thanks heaps. I'll just have to try to keep him occupied on other needless tasks for a while.
[03:40] <M0hi> bodhizazen: /j -team
[03:53] <bodhizazen> good lord, 87
[03:54] <M0hi> bodhizazen: Congrats and have a nice time with the list :P
[03:56] <soulf> Hi, does anybody here happen to use the search-app (similar to gnome-do) synapse? If so; in order for synapse to find anything in a certain music folder I always have to have opened a files from the folder previously, do you know if there's a way to tell synapse to index several folders without having to open a file in them?
[04:09] <M0hi> Kewl
[06:06] <shivaram_mamindl> Hello all
[06:07] <M0hi> Hi
[06:09] <shivaram_mamindl> hi Mohi..
[06:09] <shivaram_mamindl> how r u#
[12:06] <coalwater> is there a way to limit the bandwidth globally on the whole computer, i want to do an upgrade but at the same time i don't want my pc to eat up the whole bandwidth while doing so
[12:07] <geirha> Chew on the internet cable
[12:08] <geirha> I'm not sure how. ##networking might know of some software you can use to achieve that.
[12:09] <ppcblaster> tried to install skype, didn't launch, trying to reinstall getting"Breaks existing package 'skype' conflict: skype ( )"
[12:10] <ppcblaster> think I tried to install 32 instead of 64
[13:46] <bobweaver> Hi there I was wondering if some one could help me with using sed
[13:47] <geirha> bobweaver: Sure.
[13:47] <bobweaver> under /usr/share/applications/bob    I have a bunch of files
[13:48] <bobweaver> which is good
[13:48] <bobweaver> but how do I use sed to change all the gnome-terminal | konsole ?
[13:49] <bobweaver> changing out words with sed :>)
[13:49] <geirha> Change gnome-terminal or konsole to what?
[13:49] <coalwater> can't u just replace with nano ?
[13:49] <bobweaver> gnome-terminal to konsole
[13:50] <geirha> Well, for editing files I generally prefer to use a file editor, not sed.
[13:50] <bobweaver> there are 700 + so using nano
[13:50] <geirha> for file in /usr/share/applications/bob/*; do printf '%s\n' 'g/gnome-terminal/s//konsole/g' w | ed -s "$file"; done
[13:51] <Riviera> What's bob?
[13:51] <bobweaver> Riviera: thats my name
[13:51] <Riviera> Nice to meet you, Bob.
[13:51] <bobweaver> :>)
[13:51] <bobweaver> you too
[13:51] <Riviera> You have a directory with your name in /usr/share/applications?
[13:51] <coalwater> in nano u can do a ctrl+w to find, then ctrl+r to replace, then write the word to use, then the word to replace, then shift +A to replace all, just saying lol
[13:52] <Riviera> What does that do there?
[13:52] <coalwater> o u mean u have 700+ files, not occrences?
[13:52] <bobweaver> let me show you guys  ls  /usr/share/application/bob
[13:53] <Riviera> thanks
[13:53] <coalwater> i hope ur planning to use pastebin
[13:53] <coalwater> lol
[13:53] <Riviera> And I hope you did not miss geirha's solution to your problem.
[13:53] <coalwater> i really need to read sed's man
[13:54] <bobweaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/713227/
[13:54] <geirha> coalwater: /topic ##sed
[13:54] <geirha> coalwater: The sedintro there is quite nice.
[13:54] <coalwater> ok ty
[13:54] <bobweaver> as you can see I have been using nano but there is just so many
[13:55] <Riviera> Hm, but what is that?
[13:55] <geirha> You can put desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications btw
[13:55] <bobweaver> I also need to change all the things that say bob into opt
[13:55] <Riviera> Shouldn't files like these be stored in ~/.local/share/applications?
[13:56] <bobweaver> ??
[13:56] <bobweaver> /ect/.local.share/applications
[13:56] <bobweaver> /ect/.local/share/applications
[13:56] <geirha> You generally shouldn't modify anything under /usr, except for /usr/local
[13:56] <coalwater>  /topic ##sed
[13:56] <bobweaver> geirha: wjy not ?
[13:57] <coalwater> woops lol
[13:57] <geirha> Your homedir is /ect?
[13:57] <bobweaver> no
[13:57] <geirha> bobweaver: To stay out of the way of the package manager
[13:58] <bobweaver> if I want to change for good(after using remastersys) I have to change in thouse files
[13:58] <geirha> I see
[14:02] <bobweaver> early here I just put the cup of coffee under the coffee pot and he coffee pot in the microwave I think that I should drink some coffee before going any further :>)
[15:05] <bodhizazen> 'lo Lorizean
[15:15] <SuicideSheep> i try install ubuntu on my laptop but its say bootmgr is missing, what i need to do??
[15:20] <holstein> SuicideSheep: seems like you dont have a boot manager
[15:20] <holstein> SuicideSheep: talk about your setup... dualbooting, whatever... what you used to install
[15:21] <holstein> when i google 'ubuntu bootmgr missing' i get to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=829456 which might be helpful
[15:21] <SuicideSheep> but i have windows on my laptop
[15:21] <SuicideSheep> so i have boot manager for sure
[15:22] <holstein> the windows boot loader wont boot anything but windows AFAIK
[15:22] <SuicideSheep> so how i can boot linux
[15:23] <holstein> SuicideSheep: lots of ways... hte default is that GRUB is installed when you install
[15:23] <holstein> SuicideSheep: you are wanting to dual boot some version of ubuntu with some version of windows?
[15:23] <holstein> what versions?
[15:23] <SuicideSheep> yes
[15:23] <SuicideSheep> win 7
[15:23] <holstein> and how are you trying to install said version of ubuntu? USB? a live CD?
[15:23] <SuicideSheep> ubuntu 11 04
[15:23] <SuicideSheep> usb
[15:24] <holstein> SuicideSheep: ubuntu 11.10 is out now as well
[15:24] <holstein> FYI
[15:24] <SuicideSheep> ok
[15:24] <SuicideSheep> but if i cant install 11 04
[15:24] <holstein> SuicideSheep: if it were my machine, i would boot a live CD, and i would look at the hard drive... i would want to see the windows partition, and the linux partition/partitions
[15:24] <SuicideSheep> i cant 11 10 too
[15:25] <holstein> then, if all is looking as expected, and its just GRUB that is missing, i would use
[15:25] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[15:25] <SuicideSheep> i did not install linux yet
[15:25] <holstein> to reinstall grub using that live CD
[15:25] <SuicideSheep> becouse i cant
[15:25] <holstein> SuicideSheep: you'll need to elaborate on why you cant
[15:26] <holstein> if you are getting that error when booting the USB installation stick you made, then...
[15:26] <holstein> i suggest using unetbootin
[15:26] <holstein> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:26] <holstein> that *always* works for me, where the other tools occasionally fail
[15:26] <SuicideSheep> i used him
[15:26] <holstein> i would suggest formating the USB stick as well
[15:27] <holstein> and, you can also confirm the downloaded iso image has no errors
[15:27] <SuicideSheep> i tryed make usb bootable with cmd and with programs
[15:27] <SuicideSheep> but all say bootmgr is missing
[15:27] <ameer-ahmad> SuicedeSheep, I think you should your Win 7 recovery CD again to fix the problem., :D
[15:27] <SuicideSheep> win 7 works normaly
[15:27] <holstein> SuicideSheep: right.. so *now* you format the USB stick, and try wht unetbootin
[15:27] <holstein> with*
[15:27] <holstein> SuicideSheep: have you tried that?
[15:27] <SuicideSheep> i tryed 10 min ago
[15:28] <holstein> formatting the usb stick?
[15:28] <holstein> then creating with unetbootin?
[15:28] <holstein> SuicideSheep: did you confirm the downloaded iso image is not corrupt as well?
[15:28] <holstein> ameer-ahmad: the computer is not broken, thats what i first though when i read the post
[15:28] <SuicideSheep> i tryed install ubuntu and openSUSE both bootmgr miss
[15:29] <holstein> its the USB stick thats not booting
[15:29] <SuicideSheep> usb and cd
[15:29] <holstein> SuicideSheep: right, but did you actually confirm the downloaded images?
[15:29] <holstein> that is a constant in your scenario, your internet connection that you use to download the images (or so i am assuming)
[15:30] <SuicideSheep> yes i did
[15:30] <holstein> SuicideSheep: so, on your machine, it wont boot USB or CD, correct?
[15:30] <holstein> have you tried something more simple, like a gparted live CD?
[15:31] <holstein> have you checked *all* the settings in your bios?
[15:33] <holstein> SuicideSheep: what machine is it? maybe we can google around about that specific model and learn something helpful
[15:35] <SuicideSheep> hp
[15:36] <SuicideSheep> envy
[15:36] <ameer-ahmad> SuicideSheep, I think this would have help you solve the problem, http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ss/bootorderchange.htm
[15:37] <holstein> SuicideSheep: same again?
[15:37] <SuicideSheep> yes
[15:37] <holstein> you mean, a gparted live CD gives the same error?
[15:37] <holstein> what is the same again?
[15:37] <holstein> 11.10?
[15:38] <holstein> the only constant i can see here is that machine unfortunately
[15:38] <holstein> is there something in the bios that locks that feature down?
[15:38] <SuicideSheep> idk
[15:38] <SuicideSheep> i tryed install ubuntu inside windows
[15:38] <SuicideSheep> but i get some eror
[15:39] <holstein> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-systems-and/Booting-Ubuntu-10-10-LiveUSB-on-Envy-15/td-p/470921
[15:39] <SuicideSheep> win32 or something like this
[15:39] <ameer-ahmad> SuicideSheep, you means by wubi install?
[15:39] <SuicideSheep> yes
[15:39] <holstein> SuicideSheep: if it wont boot *any* live CD's, then this is not an ubuntu issue... i think you'll save some time going ahead and researching why that particular machine wont boot USB or CD
[15:41] <SuicideSheep> i will now try install it with wubi
[15:41] <SuicideSheep> ubuntu 11 10
[15:41] <holstein> SuicideSheep: ?
[15:41] <holstein> i thougth wubi fails as well?
[15:41] <SuicideSheep> and if i get the error i will ss and send here
[15:41] <SuicideSheep> 11 04
[15:41] <SuicideSheep> but i didnt try 11 10
[15:41] <holstein> your machine is not booting live media, that is the issue
[15:41] <ameer-ahmad> I never try install ubuntus with wubi installation methode in my life.,
[15:41] <holstein> ive used wubi before
[15:42] <holstein> SuicideSheep: mabye this is some corporate machine? something you got from that environment? with something added to 'lock down' booting other installation media?
[15:43] <ameer-ahmad> All I've done is that Live CD/ liveusb
[15:43] <SuicideSheep> hmm
[15:43] <SuicideSheep> this windows are hp edition
[15:43] <SuicideSheep> so...
[15:43] <SuicideSheep> maybe they block other os
[15:43] <holstein> it could be something that got added after the fact
[15:43] <jesper_> LF help. fresh ubuntu 11.10 logged in and my desctop is gone. all i see is a gray line on top of screen with the text arkive and so on
[15:44] <holstein> if it were my machine, i would take the hard drive out, and mess with it til it boots a live CD
[15:44] <SuicideSheep> the problem is that i am not home
[15:44] <holstein> jesper_: how did it boot live? any graphics problems? have you used linux on that machine in the past?
[15:45] <SuicideSheep> i need linux for college
[15:45] <holstein> SuicideSheep: run it in virtualbox
[15:45] <jesper_> holstein: ye i have had ubuntu earlier just wanted a fresh install
[15:45] <SuicideSheep> i think i will need
[15:45] <SuicideSheep> but that will be my last option
[15:46] <holstein> SuicideSheep: i could be wrong, but this will tell you exactly what the issue is... take the hard drive out temporarily
[15:46] <holstein> then, you'll know that its the machine/bios
[15:46] <deej1976> SuicideSheep: can you get into the bios on your HP E
[15:47] <holstein> jesper_: i would also take that machine, and see what it takes to get to the desktop with a live CD... nomodeset, or whatever 'safe graphics' options
[15:47] <holstein> you can always add a custom xorg.conf file at that point too, assuming you need that
[15:48] <jesper_> holstein: why? i think it can be some problems with the ati driver i installed from amd.com
[15:49] <holstein> jesper_: yup, thats what im thinking as well... graphics driver issues
[15:49] <SuicideSheep> yes i can
[15:50] <jesper_> holstein: is there a command to remove it in terminal?
[15:50] <holstein> jesper_: there should be a readme file in the downloaded pacakge
[15:50] <holstein> i usually just use the one in the repos whenever possible
[15:52] <holstein> good luck guys, i gotta run :)
[15:52] <SuicideSheep> bb
[15:52] <SuicideSheep> tnx
[15:52] <jesper_> can i install the repo driver in terminal?
[15:53] <deej1976> SuicideSheep: Can you change the boot order under the advanced tab?
[15:53] <bobweaver> cprofitt: hi do you know sed well ?
[15:54] <cprofitt> I do not
[15:54] <cprofitt> Dr. Anderson does though
[15:55] <SuicideSheep> yes i can
[15:55] <SuicideSheep> i put usb on first place
[15:55] <bobweaver> Thanks cprofitt
[15:56] <bobweaver> cprofitt: he is the one that did the regex talk ?
[15:56] <cprofitt> yes
[16:01] <ameer-ahmad> SuicideSheep, goog luck.,
[16:01] <SuicideSheep> hehe
[16:07] <SuicideSheep> someone here
[16:07] <nlsthzn> ... only us sheep ...
[16:08] <SuicideSheep> deej is not here?
[16:10] <ameer-ahmad> what's up guys?
[16:10] <SuicideSheep> ameer
[16:10] <SuicideSheep> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/unledgn.jpg/
[16:10] <SuicideSheep> this i get when i try install with wubi
[16:11] <ameer-ahmad> I've no experience working on wubi
[16:13] <ameer-ahmad> SuicideSheep, you should try this http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[16:16] <SuicideSheep> bootmgr missing
[16:16] <SuicideSheep> tryed before
[16:16] <ameer-ahmad> I've just finished putting simplelinux on my flash drive and I'm going to reboot now!
[16:18] <holstein> SuicideSheep: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3115811.0
[16:18] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/468664 for you to join
[16:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 468664 in wubi "Installation fail on Windows 7" [Medium,Confirmed]
[16:19] <holstein> i think you have 2 unrelated issues going on personally
[16:20] <holstein> i think if you took the hard drive out, you'd still have that live CD/USB error, and i think something with that windows install is making wubi fail
[16:22] <SuicideSheep> i get this eror when i try instal ubuntu with wubi http://pastebin.com/RLDCUPST
[16:26] <holstein> SuicideSheep: you mind to put that here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:26] <holstein> says pastebin is 'under heavy load'
[16:26] <SuicideSheep> i uploaded now
[16:26] <SuicideSheep> but
[16:27] <SuicideSheep> how will they connect me
[16:27] <holstein> they?
[16:27] <holstein> ubuntupaste is like pastebin, you paste in what you want, and give me the link
[16:28] <SuicideSheep> http://paste.ubuntu.com/713387/
[16:29] <holstein> SuicideSheep: right, thats the same error you had before
[16:29] <holstein> command=C:\Windows\sysnative\bcdedit.exe /set {27ad149c-0c19-11e0-93b2-f9dc21d699f8} device partition=L:
[16:29] <holstein> could be because you are installing to drive L: ?
[16:29] <holstein> i forget where mu wubi install was
[16:30] <SuicideSheep> but i dont want install linux on the same partition like windows
[16:34] <SuicideSheep> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[16:34] <SuicideSheep> this?
[16:49] <jesper_> how do i fix this http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/skrmbild20111019184216.png/
[16:56] <wisevoyager> bb everyone! :D
[17:43] <coalwater> SELECT * FROM content WHERE content_id IN (5,6,42,8), how can i force the return to be with the same ordering
[17:43] <coalwater> the return comes sorted by content_id
[17:44] <Snicksie> hm, i guess add " ORDER BY column_name" and "DESC" or "ASC" behind it :p
[17:44] <Snicksie> @ coalwater
[17:46] <coalwater> i want the ordering = 5,6,42,8
[17:46] <coalwater> like i entered it
[17:56] <coalwater> ok anyway, i just did a swap after the select, bad hack code lol
[18:14] <geirha> You'd need a separate table for the ordering
[18:31] <Russ_> i have a question if anyone can help me?  im trying to install ubuntu but keep getting an I/O error when booting from the CD
[18:32] <Russ_> im trying to do a dual boot with windows 7 and ubuntu (same hard drive)
[18:32] <bioterror> that happens
[18:32] <bioterror> you're not first one to report I/O errors with 11.10
[18:33] <Russ_> is there a work around or should i go to an older version?
[18:33] <bioterror> hmm
[18:34] <geirha> bioterror: Even when burning at low speed?
[18:34] <bioterror> yes
[18:34] <bodhi_zazen> Russ_: did you check the md5 sum of the iso and CD ?
[18:35] <geirha> Weird. Maybe a bug with the iso's cd drivers.
[18:35] <Russ_> honestly not sure what md5 even is
[18:35] <bodhi_zazen> Russ_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[18:36] <geirha> Russ_: Do you have a usb stick >= 2GiB?
[18:37] <bodhi_zazen> First step when someone has a problem booting the cd/iso should always be to check the md5sum, saves a lot of headaches =)
[18:37] <Russ_> yeah
[18:38] <Russ_> im reading that link right now and i will check it, should i check the .iso or just disk im trying to boot from?
[18:38] <bioterror> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65946/errno-5-input-output-error-while-installing-11-10
[18:38] <bioterror> what
[18:38] <bioterror> it has disappeared
[18:39] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/245794
[18:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 245794 in base-installer "[Errno 5] Input/Output Error during Live CD Installation " [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:44] <geirha> Russ_: Checking the md5sum of the iso is quicker, and given that bug, testing the CD probably won't help much.
[18:44] <geirha> If the md5sum of the iso checks out, apply the iso on a usb stick and install from that.
[18:44] <Russ_> ok testing iso now but md5 sum stopped responding will post back in a min
[18:45] <Russ_> there diffrent
[18:46] <Russ_> was it just a download problem of the iso? redownload and try with USB?
[18:46] <geirha> You're comparing with one of these? http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS
[18:46] <Russ_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[18:47] <geirha> That page hasn't been updated with 11.10 hashes :/
[18:47] <Russ_> there the same with your link
[18:48] <Russ_> so im going to try and install on a flash drive and try taht way
[18:49] <Russ_> thank you for your help!
[18:49] <geirha> The instructions for putting the iso on a usb stick is on the download page
[18:49] <Russ_> ok
[21:35] <throstur> I'm trying to do killall but the processes just restart!
[22:15] <duanedesign> theunsureguy: \
[22:15] <duanedesign> oops
[22:59] <fosburg> how do you install fonts into the linux OS
[22:59] <Unit193> fosburg: Still looking for Mac?
[23:00] <fosburg> thats correct---have a bunch of postscript
[23:00] <Unit193> ubot2: info t1utils
[23:01] <ubot2> Unit193: t1utils (source: t1utils): Collection of simple Type 1 font manipulation programs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.36-1 (maverick), package size 97 kB, installed size 292 kB
[23:03] <Unit193> t1unmac might be what you're looking for (In that package)
[23:03] <fosburg> I'm a user of apps but not to computer smart. 'tlutils' I assume that is a utility app?
[23:04] <Unit193> Yes, you use synaptic package manager to install
[23:06] <fosburg> ok,  my mac is dead and I know have ubuntu os on an old pc.  tuutils or tlumac--what should I use
[23:07] <Unit193> fosburg: I'm on a crappy connection right now, does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313769
[23:08] <fosburg> thanks--i'll give it a shot!!!