[07:55] <jibel> bdmurray, good morning
[07:57] <jibel> bdmurray, there are tons of update-manager release upgrade failures where the upgrade logs are not attached to the report. Could something be done to improve that ?
[07:57] <jibel> bdmurray, there is now a question but I'm not sure people see it when they report the failure.
[11:04] <carandraug> Hi! I have a question about how bugs are managed in ubuntu in launchpad. Supposed a bug has been reported in launchpad and then fixed upstream. How should I mark the bug in launchpad? Fix released? It was upstream, it's just not in the ubuntu package yet
[11:05] <SwitchDK> Hi all, is it possible to assign a bug to an individual or specific PPA. I have turned a question into a bug report which should be filed against https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/redmine but not sure how to do it. The bug is bug/878090
[11:08] <SwitchDK> carandraug: I am wondering if it should be marked as duplicate
[11:08] <SwitchDK> but we need confirmation from the Gurus on this channel
[11:08] <carandraug> SwitchDK, why duplicate? The project is not being developed in launchpad, there's only one istance of that bug in launchpad
[11:10] <SwitchDK> carandraug: because there is a master bug record but as I said I am just guessing (still very new to this)
[11:37] <kanha> i fixed a bug #818475 and after testing pushed it to launchpad but i dont how to merge it and how to apply for sponsorship..
[11:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 818475 in bash-completion (Ubuntu) "Option no longer available for dpkg still present in completion (affects: 1) (heat: 5)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818475
[11:40] <kanha> how to merge?
[12:51] <brendand> hey pedro_
[12:51] <pedro_> hello brendand
[12:52] <brendand> what do you make of this?
[12:52] <brendand> > hugday list
[12:52] <brendand> The program 'hugday' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:52] <brendand> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-qa-tools
[12:52] <brendand> brendand@brendand-6930p:~/src/hugday-tools/trunk$ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-qa-tools
[12:52] <brendand> Reading package lists... Done
[12:52] <brendand> Building dependency tree
[12:52] <brendand> Reading state information... Done
[12:52] <brendand> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-qa-tools
[12:55] <pedro_> looks like we need to make a package? :-P
[12:55] <pedro_> should work if you do ./hugday list , right?
[12:55] <pedro_> hey vish
[12:56] <vish> pedro_: HHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! :)
[12:58] <brendand> pedro_ - yeah, i'm just running from from source
[12:59] <pedro_> m looks like hugday list doesn't work though
[12:59] <pedro_> i mean its retuning nothing
[13:25] <Pici> Hrm.  Getting a few reports of people getting errors during upgrades, unable to hit http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-proposed/main/dist-upgrader-all/0.152.25.1/oneiric.tar.gz
[13:34] <arand> Pici: I get a not found on that, am I supposed to?
[13:34] <Pici> arand: Well, it depends if you want the bug to exist or not ;) Its referenced from http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[14:24] <hggdh> vish: hello again :-)
[14:26] <vish> hggdh: hello sir.. :-)
[14:50] <bdmurray> jibel: some examples would help
[14:51] <jibel> bdmurray, bug 878141 for example
[14:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878141 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878141
[14:52] <jibel> bug 878107
[14:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878107 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "upgrade 11.10 fails on prestep (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878107
[14:52] <jibel> bug 878092
[14:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878092 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "unable to upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878092
[14:52] <bdmurray> okay! I get it. ;-)
[14:52] <jibel> bug 877890
[14:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 877890 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update manager cannot upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877890
[14:52] <jibel> ok
[14:52] <jibel> :)
[14:53] <bdmurray> so the issue is the package hook doesn't know if you were last trying to perform a distribution upgrade or a regular update
[14:54] <bdmurray> that's why the question is asked
[14:55] <jibel> In oneiric there is a dialog saying "Is the issue you are reporting one you encountered when upgrading Ubuntu from one release to another?" maybe SRUing to natty it would fix it.
[14:56] <bdmurray> oh
[14:56] <bdmurray> natty gets the oneiric code when doing the dist-upgrade but the new package hook isn't installed / used
[14:57] <bdmurray> jibel: if you could report a bug about sru'ing the package hook I'll take care of it
[14:59] <jibel> jibel, sure, and another one to attach the system_state which is very useful for troubleshooting or reproduce the user environment.
[14:59] <jibel> bdmurray, ^
[15:00]  * jibel talking to himself :/
[15:00] <bdmurray> jibel: is that not 'VarLogDistupgradeAptclonesystemstatetargz': 'cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt-clone_system_state.tar.gz' ?
[15:01] <jibel> bdmurray, I don't see that attachment on my machine. let me try on another system.
[15:04] <jibel> bdmurray, you're right, it is there ... when it exists in the dist-upgrade directory :)
[15:04] <musegarden_> Hi, I'm new to the whole bug triaging thing but I'd like to help out with the Bug Day tomorrow. What can I do?
[16:03] <bdmurray> I thought there was an update-manager bug regarding not handling a lack of free space well bug report
[16:03] <bdmurray> I can't find it at the moment though
[16:05] <penguin42> there's one for /boot
[16:05] <bdmurray> and what is it?
[16:05] <penguin42> bug 874954
[16:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 874954 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "upgrade error [space on /boot] (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874954
[16:06] <bdmurray> right that's a duplicate of the other one I'm trying to find
[16:07] <sroecker> how do i add an release again to a bug? bug 728973
[16:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728973 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with RuntimeError in on_window_main_delete_event(): called outside of a mainloop (affects: 55) (dups: 8) (heat: 220)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728973
[16:11] <penguin42> bdmurray: Bug 798462 ?
[16:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 798462 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager's free space calculator for /boot seems insufficient (affects: 77) (dups: 74) (heat: 602)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798462
[16:12] <penguin42> hmm although that claimed fixed in July
[16:14] <bdmurray> oh but if they were upgrading to natty they wouldn't have the fix
[16:15] <penguin42> lots of much more recent ones duped onto that
[16:17] <mvo> penguin42: do you have a example? I can look into it tomorrow morning
[16:18] <penguin42> mvo: bug 874954 was the one I triaged
[16:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 874954 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "upgrade error [space on /boot] (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874954
[16:19] <penguin42> and that looks like an nn->oo upgrade
[16:20] <mvo> penguin42: meh, so it calculated it will need 17402666 and there was room for 17959936 - so it appears there needs to be a extra margin here again
[16:20] <mvo> penguin42: thanks for tracking this down!
[16:20] <penguin42> mvo: No problem - is that a reserved spaceism, or a MB v MiB screw up?
[16:21] <penguin42> mvo: In general one thing that might not be too bad an idea is to run computer-janitor's clean up for old kernels first
[16:21] <mvo> penguin42: its probably block size fuziness (at least that is my current theory)
[16:23] <mvo> penguin42: old-kernel-cleanout is a good idea, its just hairy to not accidentely remove one  that the user may care about (old but still needed because of a regression in a newer or whatever). but I guess that is a corner case for most users
[16:24] <penguin42> mvo: Yeh; it's not too unusual - although if it can avoid removing the currently booted one it's reasonably safe
[17:21] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Thinking about filing a bug report regarding some odd broken behavior of the "Network" settings for proxies on Ocelot
[17:21] <bkerensa> since upgrading I have been unable to set a proxy and have it take effect
[18:40] <bil21al> pedro_
[18:40] <bil21al> need help give suggession
[18:41] <pedro_> yes?
[18:46] <bil21al> see this bug i think i demand for the valgrind log of empathy or advice him to install again ,,what you suggest
[18:46] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/877744
[18:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 877744 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy loses all styling after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[18:46] <bil21al> pedro_
[18:47] <pedro_> looking
[18:47] <Laibsch> where can I see how long the SRU queue is for "ready to upload"-debdiff patches?
[18:48] <Laibsch> This used to work much better but I'm now back to waiting weeks and months.
[18:48] <Laibsch> Previously it was YEARS!
[18:49] <pedro_> bil21al, don't think we need a valgrind log for that, those kind of logs are more useful for crashes
[18:49] <pedro_> bil21al, perhaps is a good idea to ask the reporter for the ~/.xsession-errors file and also to see if they are able to reproduce the same problem with a guest account
[18:50] <pedro_> bil21al, maybe the upgrade broke something in the user account
[18:51] <bil21al> ok perdo_ how can we identitfy that this xsession error is match with the bug like i am new how can i knw that this xsession error match with the bug or some programmer see that by it self??/
[19:02] <yofel> Laibsch: there's a sponsoring queue if you've subscribed the sponsors: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html
[19:03] <bil21al> yofel is there any ubuntu wiki pag or some thing to understand the xsession error and logs ??
[19:04] <bil21al> any body else knws about it?
[19:05] <yofel> bil21al: ~/.xession-errors simply has what the applications that you start in your session print to STDERR, so it depends on the application how you need to read it's error output
[19:05] <bil21al> and how can i get it?
[19:06] <Laibsch> yofel: thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
[19:06] <bil21al> mean how can i get xsession error of an empathy
[19:06] <bil21al> ?
[19:06] <yofel> bil21al: look for the empathy errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[19:06] <yofel> that file has the error output of ALL applications
[19:06] <yofel> no sorting
[19:06] <yofel> if anything it's sorted by time
[19:08] <bil21al>  yofel: ok thankx bro i m new if u distrub than sorry
[19:08] <yofel> nah, feel free to ask ;)
[19:09] <bil21al> ok
[20:14] <Laibsch> I hear you can do many wonderful things with launchpadlib.  I used to have a couple of scripts for manipulating bugs based on launchpadbugs python module but they are bitrotten now.
[20:15] <Laibsch> who can share a currently-working script that allows me to add a comment and set status for a particular task in a ticket?  The ones I saw on the web were not suitable for me.
[20:16] <yofel> Laibsch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~yofel/+junk/lp-scripts/view/head:/lp-set-expired.py from me - line 150ff does the actual bug changing
[20:17] <Laibsch> yofel: thank you.  Will have a look at it in the morning.
[20:18] <yofel> Laibsch: make a note of line 187 - or you'll wonder why nothing happens (bit me when I wrote the script)
[20:18] <Laibsch> couldn't resist to look right away ;-)  Whoa, quite complicated.  My python foo really sucks despite years of wanting to learn it.
[20:19] <yofel> Laibsch: line 33ff has the bug task fetching, the long stuff can be shorted quite a bit if you don't use a credentials file
[20:19] <yofel> *login stuff
[20:20] <Laibsch> I'll need credentials to be allowed what I have in mind, I think
[20:20] <Laibsch> but it looks like I can hack that into something usable for me.  I wonder how many false changes I'll make with it ;-)
[20:22] <Laibsch> My earlier scripts were based on http://people.canonical.com/~asac/mozillateam/moztools_lp/ and that was several magnitudes simpler stuff.
[20:22] <Laibsch> :-(
[20:48] <salty-horse> hey. during the installation process, I created an "unused" partition and the graphical bar in the partition editor added a "(ext4)" at the end of it. I think it should have printed "(unused)"
[20:50] <Laibsch> welcome, salty-horse
[20:50] <salty-horse> hey :D
[20:50] <Laibsch> are you asking about where to file the ticket or where to dig the source so you can provide a patch?
[20:51] <salty-horse> where to dig
[20:51] <salty-horse> It's hard to reproduce since I have to install ubuntu (don't want to set up a vm)
[20:54] <penguin42> is bug 852343 really a dupe of 543609 or not?
[20:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 852343 in indicator-session (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "gtk-logout-helper crashed with signal 5 in __libc_start_main() (affects: 270) (dups: 74) (heat: 1598)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852343
[20:55] <penguin42> bug 543609 got closed on a not-enough-information; but both show up on the most-dupes sort
[20:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 543609 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gtk-logout-helper crashed with signal 5 in __libc_start_main() (affects: 724) (dups: 48) (heat: 1862)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/543609
[21:00] <Laibsch> salty-horse: I don't know the answer.  But I think there is a package called partman or something.  Have a look if you can spot something in http://packages.ubuntu.com/part
[21:01] <hggdh> penguin42: they have rather different stacktraces
[21:02] <penguin42> hmm true
[21:04] <salty-horse> Laibsch, I think that's parted, the standalone tool
[21:04] <hggdh> penguin42: also, I wonder how many of the me-toos in the old bug are piping in just because it has the same title
[21:05] <penguin42> yeh it's hard to split the two
[23:13] <penguin42> getting dangerously close to 100k open bugs
[23:28] <bkerensa> penguin42: Indeed and lots of boinc related bugs
[23:28]  * bkerensa just found a new boinc bug himself
[23:28] <bkerensa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/878571
[23:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878571 in boinc (Ubuntu) "boinc-client bad signature for URL (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[23:28] <penguin42> boinc?
[23:28] <bkerensa> why yes
[23:29] <bkerensa> penguin42: Berkeley Open Infrastructure something computing
[23:29] <bkerensa> :D
[23:29] <penguin42> what does it do?
[23:31] <bkerensa> Distributed Computing for a Good Cause
[23:31] <bkerensa> http://boinc.berkeley.edu
[23:31] <penguin42> ah ok