[00:13] jcastro just shared the googledoc with you about UbuntuWeeks/Days [00:27] akgraner: it's 8:30, stop working [00:27] I took a break [00:27] :-) [00:27] yeah, like 5 months ago [00:27] heheh [00:27] no like an hour ago [00:28] sitting on the couch eating bon-bons, I'm sure [00:28] If I don't do something while I am thinking about it - I'll forget to someone reminds me [00:28] bon-bons? What are those? :-P [00:29] I don't know, but evidently non-overworked people love them [00:29] hehehe [00:36] going through various wiki pages and boy some of the really need updating... [00:36] DOC evening at UDS :-) who's in [00:36] j/k sorta [00:38] ok more tomorrow :-) [00:41] crap - tomorrow is wednesday - I need to put the finishing touches on my Open Week Session :-/ DOH! === ashams1 is now known as ashams [01:06] ok I think my session may be drinking from a fire hose - me trims some information [01:29] Pendulum, you around? [01:29] or nigelb ? [02:17] mhall119, guess what I am learning? - http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ [02:17] I told nigelb I was going to bug him if I got stuck [02:18] I keep running into reasons I need to learn python :-/ so I give I'm learning :-) === ashams1 is now known as ashams [02:41] akgraner: assimilate! [06:53] good morning [07:09] good morning dholbach [07:10] hi bkerensa [07:13] good morning all [07:59] morning [08:00] Good morning! [08:00] Google is down o_O [08:25] Gwaihir, happy birthday! :) [08:25] dholbach, thank you! :) [09:33] aloha [09:59] akgraner: sorry I was in bed. Let me know if there's something I can do this morning to help? [11:28] Pendulum, no need to apologize - I really should have been doing something other than being on the computer but oh well :-) [11:28] haha [11:29] I was going to ask you to look over my session notes for today and see if i missed anything [11:29] I think as long as I don't get copy n paste happy - I should be ok [11:30] and still have time for questions :-) [11:30] holy crap akgraner, don't you sleep? [11:31] mhall119, I'll sleep when I die :-) j/k - I got like 3-4 hours :-) I'm happy with that [11:31] you're crazy [11:31] we established this many years ago - I'll own it [11:31] heh [11:31] it's part of my charm [11:43] ahathaway, great edits to /BuildingCommunity :-) Thank you! [11:44] NP [11:44] Hopefully I did not overstep [11:44] no not at all [11:44] akgraner: your statement actually reads rather badly out of context... :P [11:44] I was not sure how much freedom to redesign I was allowed [11:44] [14:31:06] mhall119, I'll sleep when I die :-) j/k - I got like 3-4 hours :-) I'm happy with that [11:45] reads like you have 3-4 hours to live... :P [11:45] jussi, I would die happy then :-) so it's all a win to me :-P [11:45] haha [11:46] akgraner: though youd leave very many unhappy people if you did that.... I forbid you to die so soon. [11:46] ahathaway, have at it - it's wiki pages - if something needs to be tweaked we can just tweak them :-) there in is the beauty [11:46] :D [11:46] jussi, don't worry I'm not going anywhere...:-) [11:46] Excellent [11:47] I'm making a list of pages that I know need updating but I need someone else to fix them - the /Teams page is a mess [11:47] akgraner: good. Ill kill you if you die on me :P :P :P :P [11:47] HAHA [11:47] Oh BTW does anyone here have a blog post or a writeup about your community building experience or any aspect of community leading? [11:47] akgraner: also, I beleie you owe me some questions... [11:47] or at least I need to track down the right information as the leads listed on some of them are old [11:48] ahathaway, we have some tat we just started putting together on the leadership team [11:48] but I don't think they are pubic yet [11:48] b/c people are still editing them [11:48] OK. I am looking for personal experiences that people want to share on the build site [11:49] ahathaway, but let me get you the wiki page they will be added to once they are finished - this way you can link to them or just crosspost [11:49] Great thanks [11:49] yep - the leadership team is documenting 'use cases' etc around various skill sets [11:50] great [11:50] thanks [11:50] Off to work [11:50] TTYL [11:50] ahathaway, thanks again, laters... [11:58] jcastro: out of curiousity, if I were to do a lightening talk at UDS, would we be able to sort a way for me to get on the stage? [12:19] absolutely [12:19] we could have you go first or something [12:20] jussi: +1 [12:21] .w 29 [12:21] blah [12:22] jcastro, you doing a day 2 summary? [12:22] yep [12:22] doing it now [12:22] :) [12:22] woke up early! [12:22] :-) awesome yay [12:23] since today's event's start at 1300 UTC :-) [12:32] dpm, hi, you put #ubuntu-channel in your translators and app developers mail :-) [12:32] argh!, thanks james_w [12:32] james_w: hehe, I was about to say that a well :D [12:34] dpm, be careful, james_w is watching you [12:34] * dpm is glad that james_w is a friend [12:35] I am james_w fan #1! [12:35] when do you lot arrive in Orlando? [12:36] I'll be there the tuesday before [12:36] * mhall119 is already here [12:36] well, 30 minutes away anyway [12:36] :-) [12:36] sweet [12:36] * james_w arrives on Sunday [12:37] Sunday too [12:38] jcastro: are you sprinting the week before, or helping with setup? [12:38] sprinting [12:40] * mhall119 would like Ubuntu to start using ksplice or something [12:40] I hate having to reboot every other month [12:43] jcastro: This sunday on? [12:43] OH GOD. [12:44] 2 WEEKS TO UDS. [12:44] mhall119: from what I've been told the hard part is running the server bit [12:44] mhall119: ksplice is Oracle product now :( [12:45] nigelb: oh, I thought it was in the kernel source [12:45] anyone on android or iphone can you see if the UDS schedule is there? [12:45] maybe I meant kexec [12:45] jcastro: did you remember to pay them? [12:46] heh yeah [12:46] heh [12:46] I wonder what happened to the KDE folks' android app. [12:51] * popey tickles jcastro [12:51] jcastro, I shared the Planning article with you - (I think) let me know if you didn't get the invite [12:51] I saw the invite [12:51] ok coolieo [12:51] heya, put "Review blah blah" on a card and assign it to me [12:55] ok - I'll add the trello stuff :-) and put links to what we already have [12:57] jcastro, I can't remember people can see the information right - it's all public [12:57] even if they aren't subscribed [13:02] yes [13:02] transparency means people can look in [13:02] :) [13:02] :-P [13:03] Day 3 of Open Week just started - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [13:04] summit folk [13:04] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-p-ecryptfs [13:04] any idea why this isn't being scheduled? [13:05] jcastro: when was it approved? [13:06] asking now [13:06] what's the time lag on that? [13:06] about an hour [13:07] lol. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/thisisbogus-removeitfromtheudsschedule [13:07] he says they did it a week or two ago [13:07] the other ones got scheduled [13:08] just not this one [13:08] I see it on the xml [13:08] so definitely something's up in summit. [13:08] jcastro: do you see it in summit admin? [13:09] yeah [13:09] but the track doesn't seem set [13:09] we do have a security track right? [13:09] yep [13:09] I set it just now [13:10] the plenaries look intersting. [13:10] Hopefully, I can stay up late enough to watch it. [13:11] ok so now the next run it might schedule? [13:11] yeah [13:11] mhall119: do you have any comments? ^ [13:11] james_w: any idea what happened there? [13:11] nope [13:11] "summit" [13:11] heh [13:11] * jcastro then waves his hands [13:11] Its less of that thes days [13:11] I just ran the commands from cron [13:12] autoscheduler right? [13:12] is there a way we can blame cjohnston for this? he's not around, sounds like a good idea to me [13:12] sure! [13:12] I probably touched it last. [13:13] mhall119 / james_w: I'm thinking of making launchpad.net a setting. Thoughts/oppositions? [13:14] that way we can switch it out to staging locally for testing. [13:14] no opposition [13:14] Maybe I can get the "nigel broke summit" award from jcastro :D [13:14] Ugh, I wish launchpad blueprints showed me more information. [13:15] nigelb: I'm okay with it, but it's not going out until after UDS [13:15] I had this amazing dream that blueprints were accidentally deleted in launchpad [13:15] james_w: can we do a deployment today/ [13:15] ? [13:15] and there was no way to get them back [13:15] mhall119: Darn. No chance of the award then. [13:15] and I cried with joy [13:15] jcastro: lol [13:15] jcastro: there's always the wiki [13:15] jcastro: summit has invaded your dreams as well? [13:15] nigelb: no, launchpad did [13:16] I don't know which would be a worse dream [13:16] jcastro: you join the chosen elite. [13:16] mhall119: I think we should rename the wiki [13:16] aka, the damned [13:16] to "Contributor Remover" [13:16] I call it the WikiWall [13:16] I have nightmares about Daviey having some code in summit that's not chcked and it screwing up and us getting blamed. [13:16] jcastro, you need an intervention you dream about bp, lp, lists and trello - even I don't do that... [13:16] it's like the Berlin Wall [13:16] "oooh, jono thinks this is a good idea, awesome, I love ubuntu, I'm in, hell yea, how do I get started? I feel empowered!" then SLAM. Right in the face. [13:16] mhall119, no opposition from me [13:16] "Wait, you want me to USE THIS?" [13:17] akgraner: you don't sleep enough to have dreams [13:17] jcastro: heh [13:17] I'd like my unsubscribe change in if possible [13:17] mhall119, DOH! [13:17] james_w: is it waiting for a review? [13:17] I should get that IRC channel change in [13:17] I've been working on it forever [13:17] I thought so [13:17] mhall119: can you hold for 2 hours for an IRC channel change? [13:17] james_w: okay, I'll check up on it [13:17] Or adopt from mine if you want to do it. [13:17] thanks [13:17] nigelb: are you going to get it done? [13:17] mhall119: yes. [13:17] ok, then I'll wait [13:18] excellent, ok. let me leave for home now. [13:18] ttyl [13:26] jcastro rick's session is tomorrow [13:26] whoa [13:26] it's WEDNESDAY [13:27] yeppers... [13:37] jcastro, I am so going to do an interview with you - "Don't sweat the small stuff by Jorge Castro!" [13:38] hah [13:38] also dholbach and dpm I added the interview questions for your UDS interviews to the spreadsheet please feel free to modify or add to them [13:38] "People might think I'm looking at the big picture and focusing on what''s important, but what I'm really doing is just not caring." [13:38] jcastro and kim0 I haven't added your questions yet but I'll work on that soon... [13:39] jcastro, and I bet you don't have high blood pressure either - we need to get you a shirt with that on it... [13:39] no, I am dying for other reasons, heh [13:40] and people think I am the crazy one - akgraner rolls her eyes in the direction of jcastro... [13:43] you're the publicly crazy one, it allows the rest of us to fly under the radar [13:46] I so resemble that remark :-P let's face it someone has to do it... [13:56] dpm_: ohai [13:56] nigelb, hey ho! [13:56] are you using this nick or your clone without _ for the irc session? [13:56] this one [13:56] excellent, ok. [13:57] Gave up scheduling thisisbogus-removeitfromtheudsschedule [13:57] Is that what went wrong? [13:58] nope [13:58] just thought it was funny [13:58] * cjohnston throws sharks at jcastro [13:59] jcastro: heh, I liked that earlier :) [13:59] err [13:59] james_w: err, I linked that earlier [13:59] ah [13:59] I fail at typipng tooday. [14:00] Up next for Ubuntu Open Week in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat at 1400 UTC is How to contribute translating Ubuntu -- David Planella (dpm) [14:01] akgraner, other channel :) [14:11] dpm: /That/ was impressive. [14:11] nigelb, I'm glad you liked it :) [14:12] :) [14:13] totally wish I spoke another language [14:13] but my second language is only as good as google translate :-( [14:14] I speak about 4 :) [14:14] But I can't type anything other than English very wwell. [14:14] well* [14:14] lol [14:15] pangolin: Th irony :) [14:35] can anyone with an iphone/android see if the UDS schedule shows up for them? [14:35] shows up where [14:35] in guidebook [14:36] whats guidebook? [14:39] jcastro, showing up here [14:39] awesome [14:39] akgraner: can you check something for me [14:39] sure [14:39] compare the social events with this: http://uds.ubuntu.com/evening-programme/ [14:39] there should be a few [14:39] missing events [14:40] only two are showing up on Guidebook [14:41] what is guidebook? [14:41] Meet and greet and UDS/Linaro Connect closing party [14:41] event app [14:41] maco ^^ [14:42] akgraner: I don't think guidebook has social events [14:42] since they're not in the summit-generated ical [14:42] yes it does - I'm looking at it [14:42] oh, *only* those are showing up [14:42] hmmm... [14:43] * mhall119 needs to go get his phone [14:43] it does [14:44] jcastro, yep you're right - it's missing all but two events [14:44] the guidebook people put it in there for us [14:44] the ones I listed above [14:44] right, the ones I just added, awesome [14:44] nods [14:44] now to post about it [14:45] * mhall119 loves having a private personal ical feed [14:50] hey all [14:50] jono: morning [14:50] man [14:50] this mobile schedule is AWESOME [14:52] guidebook? [14:52] yeah [14:52] blogging it nowish [14:57] hey mhall119 nigelb and co [14:58] whats up? [14:58] [14:58] is what they gave me for the QR code [14:58] ours in summit works though [14:58] so I don't know if we want to mess with it [14:58] sorry I mean button [14:59] but I think we should leave the QR code [14:59] sorry I am backwards [14:59] * nigelb is cofnused. [14:59] *confused. [14:59] nevermind [14:59] I'm dumb [15:01] ~> [15:03] * mhall119 is very confused [15:07] hey jono [15:07] hey dholbach [15:07] anyone know of a command line tool that'll convert mutiple lines of text into a comma-separated string? [15:07] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/11654089782/mobile-schedule-for-uds [15:08] mhall119: tr [15:08] cat foo | tr '\n' ',' > newfoo [15:08] popey: perfect, thanks [15:08] now I just need to get rid of the trailing , [15:39] jcastro: hit the pool? don't you mean the bar? ;-) [15:45] jcastro, can you reach out to John Lea to ensure they are planning their sessions correctly [15:45] I am not seeing any blueprints [15:48] I thought charlene was the track lead? [16:49] * dholbach_ calls it a day - see you all tomorrow === cprofitt is now known as UBTCouncil === UBTCouncil is now known as cprofitt [18:55] jono: uhhhhh [18:55] http://adnan.quaium.com/blog/2396 [18:55] dude I totally missed this [18:55] 7 years! [19:02] jcastro, yikes! [19:03] technoviking, grabbing lunch, may be a few mins late for our meeting, but will strive to get back on time [19:13] jono: ok [19:23] technoviking, I am back in time :-) [19:24] jono: hey [19:30] jono: so I was looking for some insight on how to get some traction on the power users group especially about it help with Ubuntu Tweak [19:30] sounds good [19:30] technoviking, can bring me up to date on work that has happened recently?> [19:30] I heard some concerns that the group was stalling a littlq [19:31] none really, I brought up this idea a few times during the oneiric cycle, both in the mailing list and irc [19:31] some discussion has happened but no movement [19:32] technoviking, I think what that community really wants is a sense of leadership [19:32] last we I asked for help in designed a list of action items for getting tweak in the repos [19:32] as in, things to work on, areas of focus [19:32] cool [19:33] hoping that maybe making it smaller bites would help [19:33] agreed [19:33] once again, some discussion, but no traction [19:33] I have a few suggestions that might be useful [19:33] I think the community needs to know how they can participate [19:33] some ideas:L [19:33] * improvements to Ubuntu Tweak [19:34] * creating a power user documentation resource [19:34] * organizing some power users events (E.g. Open Week for power user related content) [19:34] i have fail leading this group, due to lack of time [19:34] do you feel you have time now? [19:34] I think you can do it technoviking [19:34] but you will need the time for sure [19:35] not reall (can no longer work on Ubuntu community stuff at work), but would hate to see this group die [19:35] I'm snecking this meeting in during lunch:) [19:36] technoviking, is there another person who you feel could lead the group? [19:36] i could ask the list [19:36] I think this is the next natural step, find someone who has the time [19:36] getting the group going is going to need a lot of up-front time [19:37] I will ask on the list, think James Gilford would be a good person [19:38] also, I think the group may need more folks who understand the Ubuntu devel process [19:38] yeah [19:38] well I think you want to evaluate who could be the next successor [19:38] who has the time, positive mentality, and leadership skills to help lead the community [19:39] maybe once that person is in place we can start discussing next steps? [19:40] I will ask the list, could you blog about it and maybe get some interested in leading this group [19:42] well, I am not sure if I should blog about it as I don't want folks to think that I am leading it - there has been some mis-conceptions there [19:42] I recommend you find a leader and then that person reaches out to planet and brings people in [19:42] and then I point to that [19:43] make sense? [19:43] sounds good [19:46] I will work on that and ping you if I need anymore feedback [19:46] thanks technoviking - I just want to make sure that I don't steal any thunder from the new leader [19:46] thanks, technoviking, let me know if I can help with anything else [19:47] will do [19:50] +1 to asking James to do it [19:50] he did a decent job working on the quicklists, he's motivated, going for membership tomorrow, etc. [19:53] awesome [19:53] technoviking, let me know how you get on, happy to talk with the new leader and help [19:56] jcastro, can we start now? [19:57] NO. FOUR MINUTES. [19:57] j/k sure [19:57] :-) [19:57] g+ me! [20:27] for those who get Fawlty Towers. Great commedy dinner show last night http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/424615 entertainment at your table [20:27] abuse at your table [20:34] jcastro, if you have time for a call I need your help re summit and session filming... [21:31] akgraner: tomorrow fine? [21:32] after 4 - I'll be a VA most of the day - will that work [21:32] the filming will be just like last time, let's link up with the AV company guy and just bash it out with him [21:32] cool [21:33] yeah but they (the black shirt crew) wondered if it would be possible to lock in the rooms being filmed - so they aren't mad dashing all over the place with cameras [21:33] I said I would ask :-) [21:34] oh ahead of time? [21:34] maybe, a day ahead of time? [21:34] let's do this [21:34] let's see how full the schedule is on like, wednesday [21:35] and if it's fullish we can do those ahead of time [21:38] ok... [21:38] I know what they are trying to do, I tried it and failed [21:38] too much to type right this second but I'll fill you in on everything tomorrow if that's cool with you [21:38] they'll just end up thinking that they won't have to move [21:38] and they'll end up having to move [21:39] nods - they just emailed sean ans asked [21:39] and I just got off a call with Sean and told him I would ask the question [21:39] we can certainly try to at least be a day ahead [21:39] so they're not totally doomed [21:40] totally [21:40] So I am trying to use Monday to knock out all the Linaro interviews - since Monday is usually a wasted day for Canonical/Ubuntu Community interviews [21:41] Novacut will be there so I'll meet with them and the AV guys on Sunday [21:42] so if you are there will you come with so we are all on the same page? [21:42]