mwhudsonwho can i chase to get a fix for this bug SRUed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/offlineimap/+bug/87788303:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 877883 in offlineimap (Ubuntu) "offlineimap occasionally deletes mail it has previously downloaded" [Undecided,New]03:54
mwhudsonit's a bit exciting03:54
RAOFMmm.  I'm all about deleting people's main!03:56
ajmitchit's all about inbox zero these days03:57
RAOFBah.  There's a lot of *entirely unrelated* change there :/03:58
RAOFStupid embedding of libs.03:59
mwhudsoni guess it might be possible to dig out the relevant fix to imaplib204:00
RAOFYeah.  It's probably not a huge change.04:04
mwhudsoncan't find it though :/04:06
mwhudsongoing by timestamps it must be one around here04:06
mwhudsonbut there are no tags in the repo (unless i fail at git)04:07
mwhudsonso i don't know which commit corresponds to 2.2404:07
pittiGood morning04:21
pittimicahg: you'll need a condition for this in debian/rules anyway, so I'd advise to only switch it on for precise an dup04:22
pitti"and up"04:22
micahgpitti: ok, will do04:23
pittiSpamapS: release to maverick-updates you mean?04:23
SpamapSpitti: yes I do mean maverick-updates. :)05:09
slangasekSpamapS: bug #811823> blast, I was too slow; based on Steve Atwell's last comment, I was going to push a fix for the other race condition he pointed out...05:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 811823 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu Maverick) "idmapd upstart job ends in an inconsistent state if /usr is a separate partition" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81182305:27
slangasekguess I'll do it as a follow-on SRU05:27
SpamapSslangasek: heh, sorry, its been waiting so, so long.05:30
slangasekSpamapS: I see though that you've only pushed for natty, but have marked it 'verification-done' for all?05:33
SpamapSslangasek: if done and needed are there, that means "pay attention SRU team, some things are not done"05:36
didrocksgood morning05:37
SpamapSslangasek: and I'm holding off on lucid to see if we get maverick verified. Its such a shame when upgrades cause regressions. :-/05:38
SpamapSmy guess is that we won't though05:38
SpamapSthe list of unverified SRU's for maverick is quite long05:38
slangasekSpamapS: hmm.  when it's been verified already for both lucid and natty, I would argue that it should also be pushed to maverick on that basis.06:02
slangasekor if not, it should at least be pushed to lucid, as there aren't likely to be many users upgrading from lucid to maverick now - but there are still plenty of people using lucid06:03
SpamapSslangasek: agreed, and done. ;) this will henceforth be known as the Langasek Release Sandwich Policy06:09
slangasekjust the right amount of mustard06:13
SpamapSAnd paprika06:13
broderSpamapS: haha, so that's the trick to getting rid of it? i'm still working through the tiny souvenir bags i picked up in Budapest :)06:21
dholbachgood morning06:53
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vin__qualcuno sa come configurare thunderbird con exchange?07:16
sroeckerhi, are you guys using unity2d? i am trying to debug why i only have 1 workspace08:04
* ogra_ has 4 with a default install 08:04
sroeckeryes, when i use unity i got 4. unity2d only shows me 108:04
ogra_even with ctral-alt and the left/right cursor key ?08:05
geserI had to change the number of workspaces to get more than 1 (unity-2d), I don't remember if I had in natty more then 1 or not (I upgraded from natty to oneiric)08:05
ogra_if you can run unity 3d there the 2d version might use compiz instead of metacity08:06
ogra_i clearly run metacity here on my non GL capable device08:06
ogra_and get proper 4 workspaces08:06
sroeckerlooks like metacity08:06
sroeckerah, thats why trying to configure compiz with ccsm doesn't change anything08:07
chihchunit seems code.launchpad.net does not sync changes for precise yet?08:08
chihchunthere are some new packages in precise, but the code is not sync in lp:/ubuntu/package08:08
sroeckerogra_: thx, metacity num_workspaces was set to 1. although i am sure i had 4 before the upgrade to oneiric08:10
ogra_yeah, thats weird, i still have four here08:11
ogra_(not that i would ever need more than one)08:11
chihchunthe latest version of gtg is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/gtg/0.2.4-6, but the code is still https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gtg/precise08:13
elleucaseb128, do you know why gnome-terminal 3.0.x is available in oneiric, instead 3.2.x?08:18
seb128elleuca, no08:19
seb128elleuca, it's likely because the first vte 0.29 tarball was 08-2808:20
seb128i.e way after feature freeze etc08:20
elleucaseb128, oh yes, I forgot about vte dependence08:21
chrisccoulsonsroecker, have you used gnome-shell at all?08:23
sroeckerchrisccoulson: yes, i tried it once08:23
chrisccoulsoni find that the number of workspaces is reset to 1 after i use gnome-shell08:23
chrisccoulsonevery time08:23
seb128chrisccoulson, it's a design decision08:23
seb128you always start at 1 and add them dynamically08:23
chrisccoulsonseb128, ah. it's a bit of a pain that it interferes with the unity-2d session :(08:24
chrisccoulsoni alternate between them a fair bit08:24
ogra_bah, oneiric makes debian crash !08:24
seb128chrisccoulson, get a script settings the few keys it reset on unity-2d start ;-)08:25
chrisccoulsonseb128, won't that slow my login down? ;)08:26
chrisccoulson(which is pretty fast in 2d)08:26
chrisccoulsonperhaps i should just stick to using one desktop shell08:26
sroeckerogra_: whats that irc client? looks nice08:26
ogra_sroecker, xchat08:26
sroeckerogra_: vanilla or gnome?08:27
ogra_with indeed the defaults adjusted a bit (userlist and channel list on the right, some color defaults changed etc, nothing big though)08:28
JudgeHi there. We need support for advanced GD features in PHP like imagerotate() for example. In LP: #74647 there was a question about why this isn't supported in Ubuntu and it was answered with "won't fix".08:52
JudgeTherefor, we set up a PPA, changing the GD support to the bundled one, which supports these functions.08:53
JudgeNow, we updated PHP to the latest Repo-Version by accident on lucid and hardy and suddenly: This is working with the default packages !08:53
JudgeCan someone tell me when and why this has been changed and if this will be a permanent change this time?08:54
ajmitchJudge: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321237 has the information about it - there were changes in php5 upstream in 5.3.x which added a compatibility layer09:02
ubottuDebian bug 321237 in php5-gd "php5-gd: not using gd bundled with php5" [Wishlist,Fixed]09:02
Judgeubottu / ajmitch : Great! That makes it clear for Lucid / PHP5.3 - What's the matter with Hardy / PHP5.2 ?09:04
ubottuJudge: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:04
ajmitchJudge: afaik, it's just a general issue around avoiding bundled libs09:07
Judgeajmitch: That's right.09:08
JudgeBut somehow, it seems to work now.09:08
* ajmitch doesn't know how, unless you're still getting your self-compiled php5 loaded09:09
JudgeHowever: Thank you for your help :)09:10
cjwatsonDaviey: can you deal with the xmlrpc-c merge?09:40
cjwatson(I forget whether I asked already)09:40
Davieycjwatson: you have not, and yes i will09:43
Daviey(unless i missed it)09:43
cjwatsongreat, thanks09:44
DavieyRiddell: Hey, happen to remember why http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62034463/xmlrpc-c_1.16.32-0ubuntu2_1.16.32-0ubuntu3.diff.gz happend?09:49
RiddellDaviey: hmm, no, although it feels like I should09:51
DavieyRiddell: no worries, thanks09:51
RiddellDaviey: must be related to cmake09:54
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dokolucas: any hint about bug 87430611:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 874306 in ruby1.9.1 (Ubuntu) "package ruby1.9.1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87430611:32
lucasdoko: yes, see ubuntu-devel@ on friday11:33
lucasdoko: ppa introduced alternatives in an incompatible way11:33
Laneyget the tools to report that a broken upgrade was from an unofficial package and advise purging it?11:34
dokomvo: ^^^ can the upgrade tools figure this out? that would be indeed a big help11:35
dokoI agree that purging is the right solution11:35
fabiandis csanchez around or does someone know where to find him? :)11:37
mvodoko, lucas: sure, the upgrader can special case this and go it, i need the exact version of the incompatible pkg11:38
dokohmm, I was more thinking about having a general solution. but I assume, you don't want to have a list of "official" package versions11:39
lucasalternatively, ubuntu could carry a patch that adds a Conflicts or a Breaks with all the packages ever published on those PPAs11:40
lucas(conflicts or breaks on the ruby1.{8,9.1} packages)11:40
dokoonly if they get the alternatives removal right11:41
Laneythere is some way to tell if a package is official because apport does it11:41
hyperairapt-cache policy?11:57
hyperaircheck against a whitelisted bunch of mirrors?11:57
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hallyndidrocks, hey, just wondering, i noticed you had a newer version of gnome-keyring in oneiric-proposed, but not precise.  Is there a reason for that?12:30
hallynI'm looking at it because, with libvirt 0.9.6 (no idea why yet), it keeps spitting out annoying warnings about WARNING: unable to connect to socket12:30
didrockshallyn: we are in sync basically, so once the version in -proposed is validated and move to -updates, it's generally copied to precise12:31
Laneyi thought stuff is usually copied when it goes into proposed12:31
hallynheh, i thought it could only go into proposed after it's in precise :)  But, was just wondering, thanks.12:32
hallyndoes my 'WARNING:' problem ring any bells for you?12:32
hallyngoogle searching brings up a few other people having that problem with other software.12:33
didrockshallyn: as long as we are in sync, it's not a big deal12:33
Laneyit they are equal then the proposed package can be copied to the next release12:33
didrockshallyn: I guess yo uhave perm issues12:33
hallynit only happens when you're not logged in on console12:33
hallynso /tmp/whatever/pkcs11 doesn't exist12:33
hallynannoyingly, it also happens when I sudo, since root isn't then logged into X12:34
didrockshallyn: not sure about gnome-keyring and sudo, normally is export variables like GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-* which is accessible only to your user12:35
dokoslangasek, your cron merge pulls in universe stuff. see bug 87815512:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 878155 in libprelude (Ubuntu) "[MIR] cron pulls in b-d's from universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87815512:35
hallynright.  it's just, gnome-keyring shouldn't be spitting out warnings on console about it.  ok it was late last night, i'll see if i can find the offensive line, thx12:37
seb128Laney, one issue is that it needs to be built on all archs to be copied12:38
seb128Laney, so it can't be copied when accepted12:38
seb128Laney, but yeah, it would be nice to have things copied over before the one week validation delay12:38
Laneyyeah, i thought that's what was done12:38
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seb128depends of the archive admins I think12:39
seb128there was some discussion previous cycle about that but some were in disagreement with pocket copied from proposed iirc12:40
seb128I don't remember the details though12:40
frafupitti: Concerning Onboard 0.96.0 and LP: #872374 . The Onboard developer already committed some small fixes. I now wonder what is better for the oneiric proposed procedure: should we wait for the procedure to get onboard 0.96.0 into oneiric to be terminated, or is it better to release 0.96.1 as soon as possible and add the corresponding debian package to the bug thread?12:41
pittifrafu: if the current SRU makes it better, but not perfect yet, it can progress to -updates first; if there is any regression, we should push another -proposed version12:42
frafupitti: thanks for the reply; so, if I get it right: it is better to wait and see whether there is any regression before releasing 0.96.1; correct?12:46
pittifrafu: the upstream release shouldn't need to block on the ubuntu SRU12:46
dokohallyn, please see bug 87816212:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 878162 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qemu-kvm pulls packages from universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87816212:47
hallyndoko, qemu-kvm-spice (which should be in universe) does, but qemu-kvm shouldnt...12:49
dokohallyn, it's the build depends12:49
hallynsigh, i was assured that was ok :)12:49
hallyndoes that mean i must have a separate source pkg?12:50
dokono, it's not12:50
hallynok, thanks.12:50
hallyni was goin gto merge 0.15 today anyway, so i'll do that and pull the -spice package out12:51
frafupitti: Ok. I will talk with the other Onboard developer about it and we can decide about the upstream release independently from the SRU, unless there is a regression. Thanks.12:51
cjwatsonDaviey: doesn't block this upload, but I wonder if perhaps libxmlrpc-core-c3-0-udeb should be renamed to libxmlrpc-core-c3-udeb in line with the deb variant13:00
Davieycjwatson: Yeah, probably right.. I'll raise a bug.. will handle that and it's rdepend soonly.13:02
Davieyit's only a wishlist, right?  They isn't any impact?13:03
cjwatsonwishlist, yeah13:03
akgranerDay 3 of Open Week just started - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek13:03
Davieycjwatson: did you fire the amd64 rebuild?13:03
cjwatsonI gave back everything I could find that had failed due to transient perl breakage13:04
Davieythanks muchly, i did fire it earlier.. and just went to check it, and saw it was built \o/13:04
pitticjwatson: ah, so it was you; thanks (wanted to give back bluez and saw that it was built already)13:04
pittiI also pushed the powerpc build score, but firefox/linux are blocking it13:04
pitticjwatson: want me to temporarily set the powerpc ones on manual until perl is built/published?13:05
cjwatsonyeah, firefox looked stalled last I checked13:05
dokoDaviey, looked serverish, bug 87817013:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 878170 in libnetfilter-conntrack (Ubuntu) "[MIR] new b-d's of dnsmasq" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87817013:05
cjwatsonpitti: no, it was only a problem because amd64 built before perl, AFAIK13:05
cjwatsonpitti: err ... because amd64 built before i38613:05
Davieydoko: yeah, i raised a bug and assigned it to the person that did the sync :)13:05
pittiah, ok13:05
Davieydoko: marking as a dupe of bug 875818.13:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 875818 in dnsmasq (Ubuntu) "dnsmasq sync introduced new non-main depends, causing dep-wait" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87581813:06
cjwatsoni386 has built now so I don't think it should repeat for other architectures; I haven't noticed a similar pattern of failurebombing from armel13:07
dokoDaviey, thanks, subscribed ubuntu-mir to let this show up in our list13:08
Davieydoko: do we have a richer c-m tracking list?13:08
DavieyI've got http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/component-mismatches-mir-track.html , but i'd rather someone was in the main page13:09
hallynzul: didrocks: I needed http://people.canonical.com/~serge/gnome-keyring-warning.debdiff pushed on gnome-keyring for libvirt to shut up.  zul, do you know why gnome-keyring is being used by libvirt 0.9.6 at all?13:10
hallyn(I'm hoping that will allow the qa-regression-tests to succeed :)13:10
zulhallyn: no idea13:10
didrockshallyn: well, not sure that commenting warning is a nice way to make things work :)13:10
hallyndidrocks: but that warning is not helpful.  it gives no indication who is trying to open what socket or why, and strace doesn't help either.  I suppose you could find it under gdb...13:11
hallynin a program it'd be fine i suppose, but this is a library.13:12
didrockshallyn: yeah, deubbing under gdb, maybe it worthes rather discussing with gnome-keyring people?13:12
tjaaltonforgot about bug 838091 until now, is the proposed fix doable?13:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 838091 in ntfs-3g (Ubuntu Precise) "should link fsck.ntfs -> ntfsfix/ntfsck" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83809113:12
didrockswould be better to know why and how you get this warning in your condition13:12
hallyndidrocks: yeah definately we need to bring it up.  I was just showing waht I needed :)13:13
hallyndidrocks, the reason I get it is clear;13:13
hallyngnome-keyring lib wants to talk to gnome-keyring, but i'm not logged into gnome, so it can't13:13
Davieyhallyn: do you know why spice is being pulled into main?13:13
cjwatsonDaviey: I think bug 878180 is a NEW blocker though13:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 878180 in xmlrpc-c (Ubuntu) "missing Breaks/Replaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87818013:14
hallynDaviey, bc you told me I could put a binary package depending on universe packages in with a source pkg in main :)13:14
didrockshallyn: the right fix will then be to ensure you have libvirt only using gnome-keyring if you are under a GNOME session13:14
hallynDaviey, I will merge qemu 0.15 today and drop qemu-kvm-spice into its own source pkg13:14
Davieyhallyn: did i?13:14
hallynzul, I trust you'll look into dropping gnome-keyring from libvirt libs?13:15
cjwatsonhallyn: you can if that binary package is itself destined for universe13:15
hallynI can't see why it's using it13:15
hallyncjwatson, the binary package is13:15
tjaaltonbasically, if you have old ntfs mounts in /etc/fstab, the bootup process will complain about "serious problems"13:16
cjwatsonhallyn: evidently not ...13:16
hallynbut the universe libraries are in build-depends for the src package13:16
cjwatsonhallyn: ah, well, that will indeed cause those libraries to be pulled into main13:16
cjwatsonmain must be transitively closed under Build-Depends+Depends+Recommends13:16
cjwatsonand all source packages that deliver binary packages in main must be in main, but not vice versa13:17
sorenAny ideas why reportbug can't seem to contact Debian's BTS?13:25
Laneyis it a package with a lot of bugs?13:26
sorenwnpp :)13:26
Laneysometimes times out13:27
Laneyreportbug -b if you don't need the query13:27
sorenAh, neat.13:28
PiciHrm.  http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release seems to be pointin to files that don't exist for the Oneiric release, getting a bunch of reports in #ubuntu about this.  Whose attention do I need to bring this to?13:32
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sorenmvo: ^ ?13:33
sorenI think.13:33
Davieyev: ^^ Was that something you were working on last week?13:35
seb128tseliot1, hey13:38
tseliot1hi seb12813:38
seb128tseliot1, is bug #855943 or your list? should it be assigned to you or to somebody else?13:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 855943 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "Installing then uninstalling FGLRX makes Oneiric's Unity unbootable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85594313:38
seb128tseliot1, just asking because we get quite some user who get a non starting box due to it :-(13:39
tseliot1seb128: let me have a look13:39
seb128tseliot1, I've triaged several unity and lightdm bugs which were in fact duplicates of that one now13:39
seb128tseliot1, thanks13:39
seb128brendand ran into it yesterday13:40
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seb128brendand, did you use jockey btw or just the command line?13:40
brendandseb128 - jockey13:41
seb128tseliot1, ^ so it's not command line specific, people screw their system by using jockey...13:41
seb128brendand, thanks13:41
tseliot1seb128: I saw the bug report but I kind of lost track of the issue as I was busy with other work. I'll make sure to spend some time on the bug to fix it ASAP13:42
seb128tseliot1, thanks a lot!13:42
tseliot1seb128: thanks for bringing this to my attention again13:42
seb128yw ;-)13:42
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mvoPici: should be fixed now, sorry for that13:51
mvopitti: is there a chance that we can get u-m that used to be in proposed into -updates? its a rather important fix for a crash with unusual fstab layouts (that turn out to be not that unusual)13:52
pittimvo: sorry, is that update-manager? -updates has 1:0.150.313:53
pitti0.152.25.1 looks like a very odd version number13:53
Picimvo: thanks13:54
pittimvo: ah, ignore me, that was natty13:54
mvopitti: i mean oneiric, there is 1: in proposed, but would be really good to have in -updates by now :/13:54
pittimvo: there's nothing to copy, tohugh, as .1 is not published anywhere :(13:55
pittimvo: perhaps we can fast-pace 1: instead? that would be a good idea either way, for people who upgrade these days13:56
mvopitti: yeah, I asked jibel if he has some spare cycles and I will also give it a go13:57
pittijibel, mvo: does either of you have a natty VM for testing an oneiric upgrade? could we test an upgrade with the current -proposed u-m, and if that works, release it?13:57
mvopitti: I will do it now, and +1 for fast tracking :)13:58
akgranerUp next for Ubuntu Open Week in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat at 1400 UTC is How to contribute translating Ubuntu -- David Planella (dpm)14:00
hallynzul, yay, fix is going into gnome-keyring upstream :)  meanwhile, i'm down to two failures in libvirt regression tests14:06
zulhallyn: sweet what are the failures?14:06
hallynzul, dunno yet, just saw the summary.  trying to finish off qemu+ipxe first14:06
hallynzul, any interest in looking over my qemu 0.15 merge to make sure I didn't mess something up?14:08
hallyn(it tests fine and isn't much different from the one i ran for a month in september :)14:08
zulhallyn: i dont have any experience with qemu-kvm packaging so im probably not a good candidate14:08
hallynnm, i'll just push14:08
hallynto fix that archive problem i created at least14:08
hallynwhat a day14:09
hallynzul, failures are from test_CVE_2010_2237_2238 and test_virt_install_location14:10
zulk then it should probably be updated :)14:10
hallynlatter looks like a testcase bug:  it says it can't find <kernel>/home/serge/.virtinst/boot/virtinst-linux14:10
hallynzul, biab14:13
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lfaraoneFor UDS, Is it still possible to mark oneselv as attending specific talks / meetings?14:36
macolfaraone: participation essential checkbox in blueprint14:37
LoRezI need ftp://ftp.comtrol.com/dev_mstr/rts/drivers/linux/devicemaster-linux-4.22.tar.gz packaged up for lucid.  It's a kernel module and utilities.  anybody know of a contractor willing to take it on?14:47
mvopitti: fwiw, update-manager release upgrade with the -proposed version for natty->oneiric worked fine for me, jibels is still running afaik15:07
seb128slangasek, hey, could you look at bug #856988?15:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 856988 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "totem cannot play quicktime file after upgrade to oneiric" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85698815:16
seb128I've no real clue about it, but comments seem to indicate that the .gstreamer-0.10 cache could be confused by some of the multiarch changes15:17
pittimvo: yay, thanks15:17
seb128it got some comments and user subscribed, it might be worth keeping an eye on it15:17
pittimvo: jibel confirmed as well; releasing15:23
pittimvo: oh, bugger15:23
pittiATTENTION! update-manager requires a special procedure for releasing to -updates:15:23
pitti    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Special_case:_update-manager_updates15:23
pittimvo: ok, I'm afraid I don't have time for this today, as I'd need to wait for the publisher to finish, and I need to run out in 40 mins15:23
pittimvo: so I can do it tomorrow morning, or you bug someone else with cocoplum access (infinity/cjwatson/slangasek) for help15:24
mvopitti: well, I can tweak the metarelease file in the meantime to point to the proposed version15:24
pittimvo: so, the actual package is in -updates now15:25
jibelpitti, the postgresql upgrade is still running, results in ~45min or so.15:25
pittijibel: many thanks for the quick testing of everything, you rock!15:25
pittimvo: but I suppose the wiki procedure is needed to really use the new version?15:25
* mvo hugs jibel15:25
cjwatsonpitti: I can do it15:26
mvopitti: well, I can workaround by pointing to the explicit version in -proposed in the meta-release file, but once its in -updates that is much cleaner15:26
pitticjwatson: thanks15:26
mvothanks cjwatson!15:27
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cjwatsonpitti,mvo: done15:50
slangasekseb128: gstreamer hasn't been multiarched, so I have no idea why the cache would be confused.  Note that he says it works with /usr/lib32/gstreamer-0.10, which has nothing to do with multiarch15:51
mvothanks cjwatson!15:52
seb128slangasek, ok, dunno then, I just wanted to point it15:53
mvocjwatson: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/ is currently empty, will this take a bit until it hits the public server?15:53
slangasekseb128: doesn't look like anything I can help with, sorry.  I'll pull the multiarch tag off15:53
slangasekseb128: would probably be good to get a copy of one of these corrupted ~/.gstreamer-0.10 directories...15:54
cjwatsonmvo: yes, it'll be visible after the next publisher run15:54
seb128slangasek, right, I will ask for details, I figured I would ping in case that's something which speaks to you ;-)15:54
seb128doesn't hurt to ask15:54
cjwatsonso ~40 minutes I guess15:54
slangasekseb128: :)15:54
seb128slangasek, thanks15:54
smbcjwatson, could you work magic to allow kernel package uploaders to upload linux-lts-backport-oneiric. There must be something for the older lts-backport ones... Just cannot run the query_acl correctly it seems15:55
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cjwatsonsmb: hmm, I can't see any sign that it was done for maverick or natty either15:58
cjwatsonsmb: I've added linux-lts-backport-{maverick,natty,oneiric} to the kernel packageset in lucid15:58
cjwatsonsmb: I think that should be enough15:58
smbcjwatson, OK, so it is not just my bad query skills... How the heck did we get those uploaded then...? Probably Tim did it all15:58
smbcjwatson, Great, yes that should be it15:59
cjwatsonmust have been done by a member of ubuntu-core-dev, yes15:59
micahgcjwatson: shouldn't MOTU be able to upload a new package as well?16:02
cjwatsonmicahg: I guess16:03
cjwatsonmicahg: I don't think that's relevant here though16:03
micahgcjwatson: adds another 70 or so people that can be poked :)16:03
cjwatsonsmb: oh, and done for linux-meta-lts-backport-{maverick,natty,oneiric} now too16:03
micahgunless it's already uploaded16:03
smbcjwatson, Ah, yes. Is that effective immediately or does it need some propagation time?16:04
micahgwhich it seems like it is../me goes whistling off in another direction16:04
hertoncjwatson: this is the upload error: Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ['General error', 'General error', 'General error'] : Permission denied.16:04
cjwatsonsmb: immediately16:04
cjwatsonherton: that might actually be a known red herring16:05
sorenherton: I got that a lot a couple of days ago, too. The uploads went through just fine, though.16:05
cjwatsonherton: you sure it didn't work anyway, despite the error?16:05
cjwatsonherton: I see linux-lts-backport-oneiric in https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+packages, uploaded 49 minutes ago16:05
hertonyeah, it is building, so it's ok I guess16:06
smbOh darn, forgot we only upload there. So the upload rights do not matter at all16:06
hertoncool, thanks, didn't come to my mind checking there16:07
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stgraber@pilot in16:19
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penguin42stgraber: Hi16:25
stgraberpenguin42: hey16:27
penguin42stgraber: I was helping someone on -bugs yesterday, they've got a 1 line patch on bug 87779116:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 877791 in appmenu-qt (Ubuntu) "appmenu crashes on AppMenuPlatformMenuBar::setAltPressed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87779116:28
penguin42stgraber: It probably needs a qt person to know if it's the right solution; but it's a fix for crashes of a bunch of different apps which seems like a good thing16:28
stgraberdidrocks: ^16:29
stgraberwould indeed be nice to have that tested and commited to the appmenu trunk branch. Then we can get that in Precise and as SRU to Oneiric16:29
didrocksstgraber: penguin42: appmenu-qt is handled by agateau who is upstream, he's probably the best to review it16:30
didrocksnot sure he's still around though16:30
sroeckerpenguin42: stgraber: that was me who filed that bug :)16:31
penguin42sroecker: Ah hi; I noticed there was a patch pilot around and remembered it from yesterday16:32
macodidrocks: agateau is still around. he works at canonical :)16:36
agateaustgraber: penguin42: will look into this tomorrow16:36
macooh hi16:36
agateaumaco: hi :)16:36
* agateau has to go16:36
didrocksmaco: depends, see :-)16:37
stgraberagateau: perfect. I assigned you the bug so you don't forget ;)16:37
macodidrocks: i thought you meant "around" in the "still maintaining" sense :P16:37
didrocksmaco: ah not in that sense, indeed! :-)16:37
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yofelmvo: can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/software-properties/lp-819793/+merge/79424 ? Just so I know if that's correct. (it works for me)16:52
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jdstrand!regression-alert bug 87790517:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 877905 in xorg (Ubuntu Lucid) "After upgrading Xserver video does not work properly" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87790517:32
ubottujdstrand: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:32
ubottucjwatson, jdong, pitti, skaet, ScottK, kees, Daviey, pgraner: reporting regression in a stable release update; investigate severity, start an incident report, perhaps have the package blacklisted from the archive17:33
jdstrandbug #87790517:33
jdstrandI am starting an incident report17:33
jdstrandthis is a result of http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1232-1/17:33
skaetjdstrand,  ack.17:34
jdstrandmdeslaur is in the processing of confirming/triage/etc17:35
mvoyofel: hello, thanks! this looks correct, but I will have to give it a fresh look in the morning to double check17:48
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jdstrandfyi, problem found and fix being uploaded18:32
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LoRezis there a better place to ask around for packaging contractors?18:48
Laibschwhere can I see how long the SRU queue is for "ready to upload"-debdiff patches?18:51
LaibschI've been waiting for over a month now.  It feels like being back in the "bad old days".  Reactions had been much swifter in the past which was nice.18:52
micahgLaibsch: doesn't exist anymore, SRU reviews are in queue18:53
stgraberhttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html will give you an idea of how far your item is in the queue18:53
micahgah, sponsoring queue...18:54
Laibschmicahg: what doesn't exist anymore?  I was indeed asking about the queue, wasn't I?  I'm puzzled.18:55
Laibschmicahg: OK, seems we misunderstood each other.18:55
micahgLaibsch: I thought you meant SRU approved debdiffs to upload, not debdiffs to upload as SRUs18:55
micahgLaibsch: BTW, as long as I have you here, I had the unfortunately luck to be the last person to touch isdnutils, could we chat towards the end of next month about cleaning up the Ubuntu package18:56
Laibscha terrible piece of work, I know18:57
LaibschI'm HOPING to be able to get that in shape for syncing in time for precise18:58
Laibschbut there's a lot of obstables18:58
Laibschmicahg: and to be honest I'm still miffed about some of my patches I think that were even related to isdnutils that rotted for months and years without anybody bothering to even look (long time ago, granted)18:59
micahgLaibsch: Ubuntu has a higher version, so syncing will be hard (unless Debian takes the newer version), I can't discuss right now though, only 3.5 hours until eow for me18:59
micahgLaibsch: I'm happy to help you from the Ubuntu side next month18:59
Laibschbut that left me with the feeling that while I try to help Ubuntu by helping Debian (which I don't really use) that serious efforts are routinely wasted in Ubuntu :-(18:59
Laibschmicahg: obviously, I'm looking to get Debian up to that higher version.  I'm even trying to get upstream to make at least another bug-fix release.  But some stuff in Debian is now newer than in Ubuntu.  And that's the stuff that I actually care about.  So, a simple "push back the Ubuntu package" will not work.19:01
tumbleweedLaibsch: patches in launchpad are routinely ignored, yes. But if you can supply a debdiff and put it on the sponsor queue, it will be reviewed19:01
micahgLaibsch: right, that's part of what confused me about the whole thing...19:01
Laibschtumbleweed: unfortunately, I'm speaking out of experience a few years past.  I followed all the steps. Trust me.  It used to be BAD (around the time lucid was released, IIRC)19:02
Laibschmicahg: let's chat about the details when you have time.19:02
tumbleweedLaibsch: the patch pilot process seems to have fixed things for the sponsorsorship queue, although it can still get a little long, it stays under control19:03
micahgLaibsch: ok, will come find you later19:03
Laibschmicahg: in a nutshell, what I'm trying to do is take small steps with what we have, make the build system sane and then hope for a smoother update.19:03
Laibschinstead of take newest upstream first and hope to backport the patches, for example.19:03
Laibschtumbleweed: yes, the patch pilot is what fixed this.  Before it was terrible and that's the time I was referring to.  That's why I was a bit anxious to see things slipping back.19:04
tumbleweedLaibsch: yeah, those bad days predate me :) Please shout if things regress19:05
Laibschtumbleweed, stgraber: It seems that my patch went back in the queue because I rebased it to the latest changes (which had ignored my debdiff :-( )19:05
Laibschbug 37938219:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 379382 in gnome-utils (Ubuntu Lucid) "gnome-screenshot (Alt-Printscreen) black/blanks out top of windows in multi monitor xinerama" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37938219:05
Laibschstgraber: thank you for the link. exactly what I was looking for19:06
ubottucjwatson, jdong, pitti, skaet, ScottK, kees, Daviey, pgraner: reporting regression in a stable release update; investigate severity, start an incident report, perhaps have the package blacklisted from the archive19:15
jdstrandplease consider bug #877905 resolved. updated packages are confirmed to fix the problem. we are currently waiting for other architectures to finish building19:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 877905 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Lucid) "After upgrading Xserver video does not work properly" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87790519:16
ScottKThanks for jumping right on it.19:20
jdstrandsure thing19:21
* jdstrand hugs mdeslaur 19:21
mvohallyn: if you don't mind I will upload a new vm-builder for precise that can build precise images19:21
stgraberLaibsch: uploaded19:27
Laibschstgraber: great. Many thanks.19:27
stgraberLaibsch: btw, what are the plans for maverick and natty?19:28
Laibschhow do I read that link, though. There's still patches several months old.19:28
LaibschI suppose those are waiting for fixes to the patches themselves?19:28
Laibschstgraber: maverick and natty did not apply cleanly.  Personally, I'm mostly concerned about lucid/LTS-releases.19:28
stgraberyeah, some are there because they aren't worth an SRU at this time (typo fixes and similar), some are waiting feedback, ...19:29
Laibschthat's why I left it at that.  I did not feel confident to rebase the patches from upstream. I merely packaged them.19:29
hallynmvo, great, thanks19:30
Laibschstgraber: so, you have to follow that list/URL to have a feel of where things are at?  I'm a bit unsure of how to read it.19:31
stgraberLaibsch: yeah, ideally that list should really only contain things that are either ready for review or ready for upload. Unfortunately it's not entirely the case at the moment. We also have the problem of some of them appearing twice (once has a bug and once as a merge proposal)19:33
stgraber@pilot out20:29
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slangasekbah, we really need smarter tools for merging .po files as part of package updates20:31
salty-horsehey. where can I find the source for the installer's (ubiquity?) partition manager? I think I found a bug20:35
smoserls -l /proc/SOMEPID/fd/20:38
smosershows ' 0 -> pipe:[12113]'20:38
smoserwhat is 12113 ?20:38
Laibschsalty-horse: "pull-lp-source $packagename"20:46
* Laibsch invites salty-horse over to #ubuntu-bugs20:46
salty-horseLaibsch, I know that :). I'm asking which package name :)20:47
LaibschOK.  Next try ;-)  "dpkg -S $pathtobinaryname"20:48
salty-horsethat's hard since it's part of the installation20:48
Laibsch$pathtobinaryname = $(which $binaryname) ;-)20:48
salty-horseI looked at ubiquity, but I'm not sure where exactly is the partition editor. it seems to have third party debian code20:48
DoctorPepperhi guys !!!20:53
Davieyjbicha: Hey!20:53
DoctorPepperagateau:  are you here ?20:53
Davieyjbicha: did you see bug 875818?20:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 875818 in dnsmasq (Ubuntu) "dnsmasq sync introduced new non-main depends, causing dep-wait" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87581820:53
lightninI see that some 32 bit packages can now be installed on amd64 Oneiric.21:32
lightninHow does one create a i386 package that is compatible with amd64 architecture? (And doesn't make users Force the install?)21:32
broderlightnin: the term you're looking for is "multiarch". https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec is the spec21:33
cjwatsonlightnin: also http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation21:34
lightnincjwatson: Thanks! That second one I hadn't found...21:35
Laibschlightnin: There's also #multiarch channel on oftc servers21:35
Laibschstgraber: is the upload already building or will that have to be handled by somebody else?21:36
lightninMultiarch is enabled by default in Oneiric, correct?21:36
LaibschIOW, will this be "verification-needed" in a few hours?21:36
cjwatsonlightnin: on amd64 systems, yes21:36
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stgraberLaibsch: it's been uploaded to the -proposed queue, the SRU team will review and let it through to -proposed if that looks good23:03
bdmurraylucas: is there a reason ubuntu bug descriptions don't appear in the ubuntu_bugs table in udd?23:35
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