[12:01] seriously though, is help with running Universal USB Installer on Windows off-topic for #ubuntu, when #windows will probably have no clue what it even is, there is no particular place dedicated to it, and it's ubuntu.com itself that suggests and gives instructions for it? [12:01] LjL: its the thing for making usb's from iso's for ubuntu, right? [12:02] jussi: yes, alternative to Unetbootin [12:02] LjL: I didnt see the conversation, but I assume you were making an ubuntu iso? [12:02] jussi: well i didn't specify that, but yes [12:03] I personally (this is not a policy decision) dont have any issue with that in #ubuntu - as its related to making ubuntu run on your pc. Its similar to wubi advice in #ubuntu imho. [12:04] jussi: i thought the same. and also isn't it weird for someone using a tool recommended by the official site to find themselves told to go to other places? [12:05] LjL: yes, but again, I havent read the conversation, so Im not sure what happened exactly. [12:05] (how long ago was this) [12:05] jussi: 14:46:30 your time [12:07] LjL: looks like a throw away comment made without understanding the situation (lunatik) - might be worth a PM to chat about it. [12:07] or did I miss something [12:09] jussi: i think i'll drop it for now, if i see him being uber-strict again about topic i'll have a word [12:10] LjL: fair enough. good you brought it up though, its a good thing to have thought about what we consider the limits for #ubuntu are. [12:10] I'd be afraid of explicitly drawing lines for that [12:11] I mean we help people compile non-repository software from time to time [12:11] jussi: i'm not one for excessive topic policing, of course if they're talking about cats it's not ok, but when it's somewhat relevant to Ubuntu, i don't see the need to scare people away. can always nicely point to a more appropriate channel if one knows of one [12:11] Thats not really on-topic for #ubuntu, yet I don't think we're going to stop doing it. [12:12] I agree wth both of you, but as I think youll both agree, if things like that start to take over the channel, we would probably ask people to move on. [12:13] Aye. [12:14] hey the Oneiric desktop CD can do upgrades, sort of anyway [12:15] I'll put that in the release notes [12:15] "can sort of do upgrades" [12:16] heh [14:38] another one for the quote DB: 08:36 < Mac_Weber> how to reboot the system keeping the Screen sessions? [14:51] @login [14:51] * mneptok prods ubottu [14:52] Error: You are not identified [14:53] maybe the change in cloak? [14:54] yup [14:54] see what happens when you become friends with staff [14:54] ikonia: hahaha [14:54] they break your access :P [14:54] i think this new cloak is pretty good evidence that staff and i have a relationship where "friendly" is probably not the operative adjective. ;) [14:55] Would you like me to do a search or something for you? [14:56] * pangolin was raised to always help the old and gassy [14:56] nah, it's OK [14:56] but thanks [14:57] sure thing [15:52] never underestimate flatulence. Having had a lot of gastric trouble in the family it's something you learn to *ahem* value [16:17] Myrtti: watch what you say. things like, "never underestimate flatulence" will move you rapidly up my "If My Wife Leaves Me ..." list. O:) [16:18] * Myrtti runs away, flailing her arms [16:18] (i don't think you really want to be anywhere near that list. the leader right now is "Chee-Tos and Bourbon" [16:18] *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG* [16:21] cheetos eh [16:33] ... [20:30] iceroot called the ops in #ubuntu (lol) === LjL is now known as lJl