[12:01] <LjL> seriously though, is help with running Universal USB Installer on Windows off-topic for #ubuntu, when #windows will probably have no clue what it even is, there is no particular place dedicated to it, and it's ubuntu.com itself that suggests and gives instructions for it?
[12:01] <jussi> LjL: its the thing for making usb's from iso's for ubuntu, right?
[12:02] <LjL> jussi: yes, alternative to Unetbootin
[12:02] <jussi> LjL: I didnt see the conversation, but I assume you were making an ubuntu iso?
[12:02] <LjL> jussi: well i didn't specify that, but yes
[12:03] <jussi> I personally (this is not a policy decision) dont have any issue with that in #ubuntu - as its related to making ubuntu run on your pc. Its similar to wubi advice in #ubuntu imho.
[12:04] <LjL> jussi: i thought the same. and also isn't it weird for someone using a tool recommended by the official site to find themselves told to go to other places?
[12:05] <jussi> LjL: yes, but again, I havent read the conversation, so Im not sure what happened exactly.
[12:05] <jussi> (how long ago was this)
[12:05] <LjL> jussi: 14:46:30 your time
[12:07] <jussi> LjL: looks like a throw away comment made without understanding the situation (lunatik) - might be worth a PM to chat about it.
[12:07] <jussi> or did I miss something
[12:09] <LjL> jussi: i think i'll drop it for now, if i see him being uber-strict again about topic i'll have a word
[12:10] <jussi> LjL: fair enough. good you brought it up though, its a good thing to have thought about what we consider the limits for #ubuntu are.
[12:10] <Pici> I'd be afraid of explicitly drawing lines for that
[12:11] <Pici> I mean we help people compile non-repository software from time to time
[12:11] <LjL> jussi: i'm not one for excessive topic policing, of course if they're talking about cats it's not ok, but when it's somewhat relevant to Ubuntu, i don't see the need to scare people away. can always nicely point to a more appropriate channel if one knows of one
[12:11] <Pici> Thats not really on-topic for #ubuntu, yet I don't think we're going to stop doing it.
[12:12] <jussi> I agree wth both of you, but as I think youll both agree, if things like that start to take over the channel, we would probably ask people to move on.
[12:13] <Pici> Aye.
[12:14] <LjL> hey the Oneiric desktop CD can do upgrades, sort of anyway
[12:15] <ikonia> I'll put that in the release notes
[12:15] <ikonia> "can sort of do upgrades"
[12:16] <LjL> heh
[14:38] <mneptok> another one for the quote DB: 08:36 < Mac_Weber> how to reboot the system keeping the Screen sessions?
[14:51] <mneptok> @login
[14:51]  * mneptok prods ubottu 
[14:53] <mneptok> maybe the change in cloak?
[14:54] <pangolin> yup
[14:54] <pangolin> see what happens when you become friends with staff
[14:54] <jrib> ikonia: hahaha
[14:54] <pangolin> they break your access :P
[14:54] <mneptok> i think this new cloak is pretty good evidence that staff and i have a relationship where "friendly" is probably not the operative adjective. ;)
[14:55] <pangolin> Would you like me to do a search or something for you?
[14:56]  * pangolin was raised to always help the old and gassy
[14:56] <mneptok> nah, it's OK
[14:56] <mneptok> but thanks
[14:57] <pangolin> sure thing
[15:52] <Myrtti> never underestimate flatulence. Having had a lot of gastric trouble in the family it's something you learn to *ahem* value
[16:17] <mneptok> Myrtti: watch what you say. things like, "never underestimate flatulence" will move you rapidly up my "If My Wife Leaves Me ..." list.  O:)
[16:18]  * Myrtti runs away, flailing her arms
[16:18] <mneptok> (i don't think you really want to be anywhere near that list. the leader right now is "Chee-Tos and Bourbon"
[16:18] <Myrtti> *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG*
[16:21] <jrib> cheetos eh
[16:33] <Tm_T> ...