[05:25] good morning [05:28] morning inetpro [05:30] superfly: hoe goes it? [05:30] how* [05:38] inetpro: sjoe, hectic, but OK thanks [05:38] and you? [05:39] superfly: same here thanks :-) [05:49] morning all [05:49] Decided to join us for real, magespawn? ;-) [05:50] this time yes the first was on the phone [05:57] thought maybe you guys would miss me if i did not come back [05:58] on another note i have found a way to indicate sarcasm [05:59] *sarcasm font* [06:14] morning [06:16] morning [06:17] morning superfly and others [06:17] Moring Kilos [06:17] morning sakhi, Patriot7912 and Kilos [06:17] Maaz, coffee on [06:17] * Maaz puts the kettle on [06:17] oom Kilos, I found out what was wrong with the washing machine [06:17] hi Patriot7912 whats news [06:17] what was it superfly [06:18] Kilos: nothing. [06:18] Morning superfly [06:18] huh [06:18] Nothing much Kilos [06:18] hiya superfly [06:18] hi sakhi [06:18] there was nothing wrong with the washing machine? [06:19] lol [06:19] weird [06:19] it was not even on standby? [06:19] Kilos: I had the outlet pipe lying on the floor, and washing machines use siphoning for their water movement [06:19] Kilos: so as soon as I lifted the pipe up, no more water ran out [06:19] sakhi: nothing wrong [06:19] lol so gravity fed it out [06:20] hee hee [06:20] just ignorance on my part :-) [06:20] im happy it was something so simple [06:20] geeks dont think of those things till the floor is wet [06:21] normally women do though because you messing their floors [06:21] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [06:22] Patriot7912, so we still gotta get samba working [06:22] Maaz, ty [06:22] methinks it was sakhi said the prob most likely in the .conf file [06:22] Enjoy Kilos [06:23] Yup Kilos we need to but i did speak to Celeste, and we are going to work on that today [06:24] great she seems to know what the prob was [06:24] is [06:24] did you get to see her mail at least? [06:25] Patriot7912, keep a record of how you fix it and you can help the next person with the same problem [06:25] blog! [06:25] I always blog about my problems and their solutions [06:25] helps me remember :-) [06:25] Will certainly do [06:25] yeah [06:25] i must start again i suppose [06:26] Yes, i did see her mail [06:26] good [06:26] But the mail did not get to my inbox, i need to look at the archive to see the mail [06:26] outlook [06:26] There were another person aswell that made a suggestion, but i can't reply to him [06:27] why [06:27] Because the mail is on the webpage archive [06:28] then just send him a new one if celeste doesnt win [06:29] No agreed, but i just wanted to inform him that i have tried the registry thing [06:30] i didnt get that one [06:31] Sorry Kilos [06:31] why? [06:31] That you didn't get that one [06:31] oh , not a prob [06:32] windows registry is a pain i remember [06:32] Yeah [06:32] there is quite a good tool for that called Ccleaner [06:33] and was free as well last month i think when i had to fix my sisters xp [06:33] http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download [06:36] Yeah used CCleaner works good [06:43] lo Kerbero [06:48] thinking back i have done the same when moving superfly dont feel bad [06:49] remember trying to vacuum carpets dry [06:51] How would i know which authenticating mechanism is used for samba is it LDAP, kerbious active directory? [06:51] http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-technical/200806/msg00205.html [06:52] hope that helps [06:53] Patriot7912: LDAP is just a directory, Kerberos is the authentication [06:53] Patriot7912: ActiveDirectory is Microsoft's implementation of LDAP+Kerberos [07:06] superfly, you going to blog about the washing machine? [07:07] ha ha ha [07:07] hey magespawn well spotted [07:13] guys i have to go do a transfer, let me know if can help with the server or the washing machine. [07:13] magespawn: most likely, but not now [07:14] i'll probable be more help with the washing machine than the server anyways. [07:14] cheeky [07:18] Kilos, who me or superfly? [07:19] well duh [07:19] you man he was feeling bad enough about the wet floor [07:20] now you rubbing salt in raw wounds [07:20] What wet floor? My floor wasn't wet - I'm a little more intelligent than that :-P [07:20] * superfly is just *really* busy at work [07:21] lol [07:22] ha thought i had said something wrong for a second. [07:43] eh? what does LDAP have to do with superfly's washing machine? [07:43] oh wait, I need to read some more :P [07:50] Thanks Superfly, why i am asking is because i am just trying to find out which one i am using in samba === sf55 is now known as skarr [13:46] afternoon all [13:46] Maaz, coffee on [13:46] * Maaz washes some mugs [13:47] big storm starting here [13:47] ya magie [13:47] hi kilos [13:47] powe failure [13:47] power [13:48] no needed to sleep some [13:48] no me for a change [13:48] but looks like power will go soon too [13:48] you need to sleep? [13:48] lol [13:48] i thought you where a bot [13:49] yeah when head thumps i go let the goblins thump it back [13:49] lol [13:49] wake up with the key impressions on the side of your face [13:50] no man bed right behind me [13:50] hope you all behaved today [13:50] Patriot7912, did you win with celeste [13:50] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [13:51] Ummmmm not as yet she wasn't online as yet [13:51] does Maaz just make you coffee now? [13:51] no i asked at 15.46 [13:52] Patriot7912, is she coming here?? [13:52] Not as yet [13:52] never seen her here before. she is one of the mail peeps [13:52] mail her again [13:53] she will most likely mail you instructions [13:53] explain to her nicely how to get on here [13:53] tell her install xchat as well [13:53] hehe [13:54] * Kilos Stirs [13:55] lol [13:55] No we chatting on skype [13:55] aw thats no fair [13:55] grrr [15:27] pew pew [15:36] later all. [15:39] yay, power has returned [15:40] load shedding [15:40] o0o0 [15:40] no whenever it storms here power cuts [15:41] fail electricity grid :P [15:43] good evening [15:43] lo inetpro [15:43] hiya Kilos [15:44] barco__, still no news? [15:45] * inetpro had a bit of fun driving with the scooter in a hail storm [15:46] lol [15:46] heh Kilos, at least it was only for about 2km [15:46] you gotta be careful after a while of no rain the newly wet rodes kinda slippery [15:46] I noticed the weather earlier and scrambled to get home before the big rains came [15:46] roads [15:47] we had about 15mm only [15:47] lotsa donner bliksem [15:47] :-) [15:48] nlsthzn: wb [15:48] Thanks inetpro ... and hello [15:48] lo neelsie [15:48] Haha [15:49] hehe [15:51] Hi uncle Kilos [15:57] Kilos: it's raining again here [16:00] lol, i lost one of my shoes [16:06] zeref: how do you do that? :-) [16:12] found it [16:12] in my computer case [16:12] lol [16:12] :-) [18:29] http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/YourStory/Photo-of-the-day-October-19-20111019 [18:29] o0o0 [18:32] * inetpro wishes the impossible to happen [18:33] Vodacom should just wake up [18:33] and so should all the other competitors [18:35] hmmm [18:35] lets start our own [18:35] employ geeks, netowrk will be supe l33t [18:36] *super [18:37] can i come mnage all the geeks [18:37] see they behave [18:38] ya [18:38] yay [18:39] barco__, ping [18:39] it sucks when you love ubuntu but have to use winsucks at work [18:40] ian coming just now [18:40] boot from usb, or cd [18:41] he wants to know how to install kubuntu in a virtual drive in works lappy\ [18:41] * inetpro 's signal varies between -87 to -105 dBm [18:41] inetpro, how are you measuring that signal [18:42] packet losses are as high as 97% [18:42] wow thats bad [18:42] from vodacom? [18:42] Kilos: I have mobile signal widget installed on me droid [18:43] Kilos: yep, VC [18:43] lovely [18:43] oh not the pc [18:43] nm shows signal in % [18:43] I still rememeber how to get here [18:43] Wolfeyes: wb [18:43] Evening everyone [18:43] Heya inetpro [18:43] fone shows full 5 bar signal but voda cuts it to 70% or less [18:43] hey wolf [18:43] ty inetpro [18:44] yeh los [18:44] :-) [18:44] grrr [18:44] zeref, Wolfeyes is my brat [18:44] NodZ [18:44] LOL [18:44] :- [18:44] :-P [18:45] Kilos: obviously ICMP is low priority so I guess that the 97% of mine is not accurate [18:45] inetpro, he wants to know the lpi course kb is doing will work on a kubuntu server [18:45] lol [18:45] but I have a very irritating delay when I work on me servers at the office [18:46] are you using kubuntu servers inetpro [18:46] Kilos: no [18:46] kubuntu is not for servers [18:46] just for desktop [18:46] ah [18:47] Kilos: but I have some Ubuntu servers [18:47] you reading Wolfeyes [18:47] Yes Sir [18:47] what's up with kubuntu Wolfeyes? [18:48] also superfly is running a 11.10 server [18:48] What do you mean "what is up?" [18:48] Wolfeyes: you don't run a server with a GUI interface [18:48] ah [18:48] GUI is for weenies [18:49] i dont use any at the moment... [18:49] Wolfeyes: ok [18:49] Wolfeyes: you planning on running some server? [18:49] But I want to start studying it again in order to set up a server [18:49] Nods [18:50] ahh [18:50] Wolfeyes: download the Ubuntu Server ISO [18:50] My computer with ubuntu was taken away from me for a time period [18:50] ok [18:50] Next question... [18:51] Wolfeyes: but be warned, when you install that it does not install a gui at all [18:51] which is a very good thing [18:52] Wolfeyes: question? [18:52] Ok now the rest of you guys please don't freak out. Can I install it alongside windows , or does it have to be on it's own? (Only for learning purposes) [18:53] the serer will be linux only (of course) [18:54] Or even in a virtual drive...? [18:55] Wolfeyes, tell that you would like to install ubuntu servers for work but want to learn about how to work a server before switching over work servers [18:55] Wolfeyes: VirtualBox, if you have the RAM [18:55] Correct. [18:55] dont expect people to know what you plan for the future [18:55] Let me check. [18:56] I have enough ram thank you. [18:58] inetpro I have a laptop (emphasis on the lap) from work I am working on, but need the windows to complete work on. [18:58] grr dont say enough man give megs [18:58] 4G [18:59] I didn' t want to brag... [18:59] Anyway... [18:59] thats not bragging its supplying needed info [18:59] dualboot? [19:00] nothing wrong with learning the basics in a VM [19:00] So I want to use the laptop to study about linux servers whilst working, until I can set up the server at work. [19:01] VM? [19:01] Wolfeys, what would be optimal is to setup a sever at home (using old comp) [19:01] virtual machine [19:01] then play around like that [19:01] Ok [19:02] but I don't have the required ram for that. [19:02] o0o0 [19:02] nee man [19:02] Only have 512m in a desktop [19:02] you have enough ram on home pc to run a server [19:03] theres no graphics [19:03] It battled to work with kubuntu [19:03] Wolfeyes: that should be ok for a startup server [19:03] or it could have been the gigabyte mb [19:04] Wolfeyes: I just replaced a server that was running on 256MB RAM for almost 10 years [19:04] brb just googling virtualbox [19:04] ooo [19:04] ok then it is the mb [19:05] http://mikesmithers.wordpress.com/2011/03/23/installing-ubuntu-in-virtualbox-on-a-windows-7-host/ [19:05] http://www.hanselman.com/blog/InstallingUbuntu104LTSOnWindowsVirtualPCOnWindows7.aspx [19:05] GUI needs lots of RAM and kubuntu is not known for using little RAM [19:05] Wolfeyes, ^^ [19:07] inetpro, how do you see whats happening in a server if there is no graphics [19:07] everything cli? [19:07] Kilos: yep [19:08] sjoe [19:08] no xchat or nothing? [19:08] inetpro: I still have a server with 128 megs of RAM... a P2 350MHz [19:08] much faster and much more efficient [19:09] yeah but then you need all the commans at your fingertips [19:09] hehe you moved your mouse, windows needs to restart [19:09] I know guys at SITA who ran mail gateways for the whole of government on a 486 for many years [19:09] Wolfeyes: I still have a server with 128 megs of RAM, a P2 350MHz :-D [19:10] superfly, what size drive do you need inna server [19:10] Kilos: all depends on what you need it for [19:11] i am totally lost as to what they are used for [19:11] i have 2 spare p3's [19:11] Kilos: I have a 6gig drive in it [19:11] but small drives only [19:11] or a 20gig, I can't remember [19:12] Kilos: gief [19:12] ok superfly and what do you use it for [19:12] plox [19:12] zeref, huh [19:12] donate one xD [19:12] Kilos: could be a database server, file server, mail server, print server, web server, or many other services [19:12] come fetch [19:13] Kilos: it controls my network at home... it hands out IP addresses to all the other computers, sets up my internal domain names, and controls access to and from the Internet [19:13] i dont understand having a mail server when there is gmail out there [19:13] Kilos: hmm... talking about that [19:14] oh so i could run my p4 through a p3 server? [19:14] * inetpro is looking for a solution at school [19:14] Kilos: yes [19:14] want to run a local mail server for teachers [19:15] Kilos: gmail needs internet access all the time [19:15] unless you use evolution? [19:16] are you talking about storing all mail on your server [19:16] Kilos: if you have a number of users on a local network you don't want all traffic to travel out and in again [19:16] ah [19:17] so your home server will do what gmail does for me [19:17] Kilos: yep [19:17] ok but will need a large drive to store a bunch of peeps mail then [19:18] superfly, can i bug you when you get time at work for oneiric server too please [19:18] Kilos: well you have to start somewhere and the measure the utilisation [19:18] then measure* [19:18] Kilos: you want me to send you the server ISO too? [19:19] please superfly [19:19] sure [19:19] ty sir [19:19] I already have it :-) [19:19] yay [19:19] i know you got it working there. arte there also updates every week [19:20] are [19:20] Kilos: I don't know, I actually don't update my servers all that often... I should [19:22] ah [19:24] Kilos: but generally there are less updates [19:25] because you're running less software [19:27] grrrr [19:29] lol blame vodacom not win7 [19:31] Maaz, coffee on [19:31] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [19:32] Maaz: coffee please [19:32] inetpro: Sure [19:33] so when i install server on a p3 i gonna have the samba probs? [19:33] or do they only come with win peeps to linux [19:33] Kilos: only if you want [19:33] eish nee man [19:34] ubuntu is supposed to just work [19:34] samba is just another package that you choose to install or not [19:34] lol [19:34] Kilos: oh and you could even install it on your desktop machine [19:35] if the server works without it why do peeps then install samba as well [19:35] what the server or samba [19:35] * Kilos scared of samba [19:35] Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! [19:35] most if not all server apps could run on your desktop, but it's not advisable for a dedicated production environment [19:36] Kilos: samba is typically used to set up shared printers for windows machines [19:36] or shared network drives [19:36] ah [19:37] so default ubuntu server can work without it [19:37] Interesting [19:38] you can even brainwash your linux machine and make it think that it is a full blown windows primary domain controller [19:38] lol [19:38] Kilos: of course [19:39] yay [19:42] Wolfeyes: but there are some relative cheap pre-configured solutions for that [19:42] and they mostly use samba [19:43] does one of you have the link for oneiric repos please [19:44] the wolf gonna be downloading at work till dark time [19:44] no rest for the wicked [19:45] How do you mean, preconfigured? And for what exactly? [19:45] :-P [19:46] Wolfeyes: see http://www.shopbot.co.za/pp-seagate-blackarmor-nas-440-8tb-prices-204207.html [19:47] or just http://www.shopbot.co.za/nas-storage/networking/south-africa/691 [19:48] I'm a little lost now... [19:48] Why you showing me servers for sale please? [19:48] Wolfeyes: NAS devices [19:49] or rather appliances [19:49] purpose built to make life easier [19:49] ok [19:50] But that is like upgrading the hardware. [19:50] inetpro, his company has servers but they winsucks and wants to ubuntize them when he has the knowledge [19:50] That would be against the objective I am trying to achieve by learning. [19:50] Wolfeyes: sure but sometimes you have to do the maths and then you will find that it's cheaper to buy [19:51] and what Kilos said... [19:51] learning is cool [19:52] Nods [19:52] na its bad for the head [19:53] lol [19:55] lol [19:56] Maaz: thanks for the coffee [19:56] inetpro: no problemo [19:56] oh my [19:56] Maaz, dankie man [19:56] Groot plesier my vriend [19:57] lol [19:58] Kilos: koffie is al koud :-) [19:58] ya [19:58] sug [19:58] Maaz: rusks please [19:58] Sorry inetpro I only have Romany Creams today [19:58] eish [19:58] Maaz, and rusks [19:58] I hid them away Kilos Pm me and I'll tell you where they are [19:59]