[00:42] <ScottL> hello again, got my laptop working :)
[06:22]  * abogani waves all
[09:03] <knome> ScottL, :)
[10:35] <falktx> ScottL: ping
[11:03] <ScottL> hi abogani 
[11:03] <ScottL> hi knome 
[11:04] <ScottL> hi falktx 
[11:04] <falktx> err, now I'm gonna be out to lunch :(
[11:06] <ScottL> that's okay, i'm on my way to work right now, i'll be there in about thirty minutes :)
[11:16]  * knome is mostly afk today
[15:06] <scott-work> knome: i will add my recommendation tonight, sorry for the delay
[15:07] <scott-work> oh, knome, i really like the greybird theme, if ubuntu studio wanted to use a similar but darker them is there one you would recommend?
[15:10] <scott-work> abogani: it has been suggested that the -generic kernel might rival the -lowlatency kernel for performance within a year, can you offer an opinion on this statement?
[15:13] <holstein> i hope by 14.04 it will be a non-issue
[15:13] <holstein> the kernel thing^^
[18:17] <knome> scott-work, thanks! re: dark greybird, i don't really know the dark themes well
[18:24] <scott-work> knome: that's cool, i really like greybird, it is very simplistic and easthetically pleasing, it "gets out of the way" and doesn't confuse users in my opinion
[18:25] <scott-work> i should also add that those are compliments ;)
[18:25] <knome> hehe
[18:25] <knome> it's mostly done by ochosi though ;)
[18:26] <knome> but more seriously, maybe a theme like greybird, but dark, could be possible for pangolin, or p+1
[19:14] <holstein> knome: i have a question... what privs do you have to the xubuntu stuff?
[19:14] <knome> holstein, what xubuntu stuff?
[19:14] <holstein> the repos and the site maintanance?
[19:15] <holstein> what im wondering is, how to get access to some of our infrastructure
[19:15] <holstein> get that access to ScottL scott-work 
[19:15] <holstein> knome: and/or you for that matter
[19:16] <knome> holstein, we push to the launchpad repo, which is owned by xubuntu-website team, and the IS pull from there to production
[19:16] <knome> holstein, so i just need push rights to the self-created repository in LP
[19:18] <holstein> knome: lets say several of those words mean something to me... is there anything i can do to help facilitate that?
[19:18] <knome> holstein, do you have a website team for ubuntu studio in launchpad?
[19:19] <knome> if not, either create one, OR
[19:19] <knome> add me to the ubuntu studio team,
[19:19] <holstein> knome: i think all of that is do-able
[19:19] <knome> i think a us-website team would be a better idea
[19:19] <knome> because when the site is in staging/production
[19:19] <holstein> knome: im about to run, but maybe i catch you and scott-work ScottL around idle, and we can hash that out a bit
[19:20] <knome> people in that group have admin access to the WP installation
[19:20] <holstein> knome: thanks for your help :)
[19:20] <knome> np
[19:22] <scott-work> right, then sounds like we verify we don't have a website team and create one if not
[19:24] <knome> mm-hmm
[19:24] <knome> that's how xubuntu has it :)
[19:30] <shnatsel> scott-work: oh, hi!
[19:30] <shnatsel> scott-work: I've just replied to your email
[19:31] <scott-work> shnatsel: cool :)
[19:31] <scott-work> thanks for responding!
[19:32] <scott-work> but yeah, it's cranking up again, and me and holstein and hella motivated to make things happen this cycle ;)
[19:32] <scott-work> can i add your google doc link to the blueprint, shnatsel ?
[19:33] <shnatsel> scott-work: it's already there
[19:34] <scott-work> http://goo.gl/WW1Y8?
[19:34] <scott-work> ah, i see it now :)
[19:34] <scott-work> i might be able to hook you up on getting your packages into debian
[19:34] <scott-work> shnatsel: ^^^
[19:35]  * shnatsel looks up hooking up in a dictionary
[19:35] <knome> scott-work, hmm. i think xubuntu could also do with a package-selector install-time, can we collaborate on that?
[19:36] <shnatsel> knome: would be AWESOME
[19:36] <shnatsel> knome: but, are you sure you need that? I'm pretty sure that NOT having one is a huge win for e.g. usual Ubuntu
[19:36] <scott-work> shnatsel: i think that i can assist you in getting the packages into debian, i forget you are not a native english speaker, russian i believe?
[19:36] <knome> i don't think how much we can contribute to that really
[19:37] <knome> shnatsel, maybe for something like "install the lightest system" or "install with firefox+thunderbird"
[19:37] <scott-work> i am always humbled how well people who do not live in the us can speak english and the majority of americans can't even speak english properly
[19:37] <knome> shnatsel, we probably don't want individual package selection, but something like sets of apps
[19:37] <shnatsel> scott-work: yeah, Russian, but I'm learning English and I'll get my English translator grad in a year, so the more real-life expressions I know, the better :)
[19:37] <scott-work> knome:   re: collaboration;  absolutely!
[19:38] <scott-work> shnatsel: wow, that is cool!  is there big money in translation?
[19:38] <knome> :)
[19:39] <shnatsel> scott-work: nope. Very little money in translation, unless it's synchronous interpretation, but I like coding more
[19:41] <shnatsel> knome: I hope by the time of 12.04 you won't have to pull in Thunderbird - Postler will get much faster and lighter
[19:42] <shnatsel> (but that's just me)
[19:43] <knome> heh, i just prefer TB over postler, at least for now
[19:44] <shnatsel> yeah, right now Postler sucks IMHO
[19:45] <scott-work> knome: i am unfamiliar with team heirarchies in launchpad, should a website team be create under ~ubuntustudio or ~ubuntustudio-dev?
[19:46] <knome> scott-work, -dev
[19:46] <knome> scott-work, like website team is a subteam of developers inside LP too
[19:46] <scott-work> good, that parallels my thought too
[19:47] <knome> err, s/inside/outside/ :P
[20:10] <scott-work> shnatsel: in the upcoming weeks i will start looking at the edubuntu and xubuntu seeds then
[20:12] <shnatsel> scott-work: great! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me or appropriate teams
[20:12] <shnatsel> :)
[20:15] <scott-work> persia: i am persuing getting permission to push bzr updates to the repositories, if you have suggestions about how i do this or want to discuss creating a ubuntu studio team this would be a good time ;)
[20:17] <scott-work> TheMuso: if you have any suggestions on getting upload permission i would appreciate it as well
[20:18] <holstein> scott-work: i have an email out to jono as well with a similar question
[20:20] <scott-work> holstein: this is a pertinent wiki page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#Ubuntu_Developers_.28from_delegated_teams.29
[20:20] <scott-work> i'm just unsure if i should apply for 'delegated team' or 'per package'
[20:20] <scott-work> if clarification isn't forthcoming relatively soon, then i will probably apply in more than one method to make sure it happens
[20:34] <shnatsel> do we have an UbuntuStudio Oneiric release out?
[20:34] <shnatsel> My friend doesn't seem to be able to find it
[20:34] <shnatsel> though I sent him a link to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/oneiric/release/
[20:35] <knome> scott-work, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website
[20:36] <knome> scott-work, xubuntu-dev seems to be SUBTEAM of xubuntu-artwork
[20:37] <knome> scott-work, so i think it should also be a subteam of xubuntu-website too
[20:42] <micahg> scott-work: I can discuss here with you as well about membership :)
[20:43] <micahg> just maybe not today (and it's too late to be on Monday's agenda anyways), how about Sunday sometime?
[21:15] <scott-work> sorry, micahg i just now saw this
[21:15] <scott-work> micahg: i will be at your convenience to discuss memebership :)
[21:17] <micahg> scott-work: ok, Sunday some time should work
[21:19] <scott-work> micahg: may i ask your timezone, this might make a difference for when "sunday" actually is for me ;)
[21:23] <micahg> scott-work: CDT ATM
[21:24] <micahg> so, the same :)
[21:25] <scott-work> excellent
[21:43] <knome> hrmpfh