[06:43] <ochosi> hm, xubuntu news on omg, that's rare: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/how-to-enable-ubuntus-global-menu-in-xubuntu-11-10/
[19:11] <cody-somerville> Is there going to be a CIVS vote for Xubuntu project lead?
[19:12] <knome> cody-somerville, charlie announced we will have a vote in IRC only
[19:14] <cody-somerville> That doesn't really work, especially when there are two candidates. No way to confirm eligibility of voters and or easy way to perform the Condorcet method.
[19:15] <knome> cody-somerville, while i am one of the candidates, i am not the person who runs the election. please contact charlie today or tomorrow, to change the voting method, because he annonced no complaints about the vote can't be made after tomorrow
[19:16]  * cody-somerville nods.
[19:16] <cody-somerville> I'll send an e-mail.
[19:20] <mr_pouit> it's probably overkill, unless you really want to vote NOTA (none of the above, so neither charlie nor knome)
[19:21] <micahg> mr_pouit: are there any packages from Debian you don't want me to sync/merge?  I know not to take 4.9.x/4.10.x without a consult
[19:22] <micahg> we're syncing from testing, so I'll only take something from there ATM
[19:24] <mr_pouit> I don't think we've uploaded anything related to 4.9.x (I only put some of them in pkg-xfce svn)
[19:24] <scott-work> if i'm not a member of any xubuntu team would i be able to vote?
[19:25] <mr_pouit> micahg: I think you can wait for thunar 1.2.3-2 and 4.8.6-1 to reach testing (otherwise, pain with multiarch plugins)
[19:25] <mr_pouit> apart from that, it should be fine
[19:25] <mr_pouit> thanks ;-)
[19:25] <mr_pouit> scott-work: afaik, you need to be in ~xubuntu-users
[19:25] <micahg> mr_pouit: ok, so stuff like ffmpegthumbnailer and other friends are ffine
[19:26] <mr_pouit> micahg: yes, sure. However, tumbler 0.1.22-1 (syncable when it reaches testing) gained a gstreamer thumbnailer, so we won't use ffmpegthumbailer anymore.
[19:27] <mr_pouit> *ffmpegthumbnailer
[19:27] <micahg> \o/
[19:28] <micahg> I'll try to do a weekly check for merges syncs and keep us up to date with testing
[19:28]  * micahg also needs to update blueman 
[19:29] <mr_pouit> hehe
[19:29] <mr_pouit> micahg: for the exo multiarch issue, we'll have to introduce a new binary package, even in the oneiric sru i'm afraid
[19:30] <micahg> ugh, ok
[19:42] <knome> cody-somerville, IMO the concern about not being able to check voting eligibility is kind of ludicrous. anybody can create an LP account and add himself to the group anyway
[19:43] <cody-somerville> This true.
[19:43] <cody-somerville> At the very least, it lets people vote who aren't going to be able to make the meeting.
[19:43] <knome> cody-somerville, "The leader is to be voted on during a Xubuntu community meeting."
[19:44] <knome> cody-somerville, strategy document, written by you
[19:44] <knome> cody-somerville, that doesn't let people who are absent to vote anyway
[19:44] <cody-somerville> Yea, it is a strategy document written four years ago - not a constitution :P
[19:44] <knome> if the strategy document is not to be followed, why write one?
[19:45] <knome> it has also been updated recently
[19:45] <knome> and change to that point could have been made too
[19:45] <knome> but the project leader, nor anybody else, thought that was needed
[19:46] <knome> it makes the strategy document recent, and respectable, enough
[19:46] <Unit193> GPG signed emails (or gpg encrypted)
[19:48] <cody-somerville> That makes no difference on if the current voting procedure is sufficient or not
[19:49] <knome> cody-somerville, no, it just means the voting must be conducted during a xubuntu community meeting
[19:50] <knome> unless/beofre the strategy document is changed, and that's too late already
[22:09] <Pjotr> Hello, I would like to notify you of a particular bug in Xubuntu 11.10:
[22:09] <Pjotr> My Xubuntu 11.10 is fully localized in Dutch. When I install LibreOffice Writer in Xubuntu 11.10 with software-center, the Dutch translations of LibreOffice aren't being pulled in automatically as well. Which they should.
[22:10] <Pjotr> I have to run gnome-language-selector in order to get the missing translations. When I start gnome-language selector, it notifies me of it's own, that there are translation files waiting for me. I only have to click Install then.
[22:10] <Pjotr> I've already reported it on Launchpad as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/878542
[22:11] <knome> i think that might have something to do with libreoffice (or its packaging) than xubuntu/software center
[22:12] <knome> i'd say at least report that to libreoffice too, even if it proved invalid
[22:14] <Pjotr> OK... I'll try to mark it for libreoffice as well in Launchpad, but I'm not sure whether LibreOffice is the culprit.... Shouldn't software-center handle the full installation of all relevant and supporting files of an application?
[22:15] <Unit193> It only installs what the package says it needs
[22:15] <knome> well, software center is just a GUI for apt, so apt maybe then.
[22:15] <knome> but this is related to packaging afaik, not a bug in apt that just decided not to D/L the language support
[22:16] <knome> tbh, i'm not even sure if this should be automatical
[22:17] <micahg> not a bug in apt, software center maybe
[22:17] <Pjotr> knome: it should be automatic allright. Always used to be, anyway (been using *buntu since 2006)
[22:18] <knome> right
[22:19] <knome> micahg, i'm glad that there's somebody who knows better than me ;)
[22:22] <Pjotr> Well, this bug is not the end of the world, but it would be nice if you could find some time to fix it. :P
[22:22] <knome> not xubuntu specific
[22:24] <Pjotr> knome: maybe not.... can't properly test it in Ubuntu with LibreOffice though, because that's part of the default install...
[22:24] <knome> mmh
[22:27] <madnick> !glade
[22:27] <madnick> hm, sorry, i shall privmsg the bot
[22:27] <knome> hehe
[22:28] <Pjotr> Maybe it's a broader issue. I might try installing GIMP in Ubuntu though; I think that's no longer part of a default Ubuntu install, and GIMP needs it's own translation files as well. I'll test it and let you k
[22:28] <Pjotr> k = know
[22:28] <knome> yeah. it's not by default in ubuntu
[22:39] <Pjotr> OK... Just tested it. It's a braoder issue allright: software-center in Ubuntu didn't pull in the Dutch translations for GIMP
[22:39] <Pjotr> had to run gnome-language-selector afterwards
[22:39] <Pjotr> I'll change the bug description on Launchpad, accordingly.
[22:40] <knome> :)
[22:46] <Pjotr> OK, have to go now... Bye. :-)
[22:48] <madnick> hm, i wonder how likley it is that LightDM will ship a Webkit greeter already
[22:49] <madnick> The current one uses the old API and is, from what I understand, non functioning
[22:53] <knome> will be back tomorrow, bye everybody! :) ->
[22:53] <madnick> bye