[00:00] pcmanfm can find the share but i'm having a hell of a time mounting it [00:00] wxl: is it password protected? [00:00] nope [00:01] ntfs share i should say [00:01] wxl: I've got to be honest, I'm not familiar. The only samba stuff I know of is for windoze. [00:02] ntfs = windoze :) [00:02] riiight [00:02] wxl: been too long since I use windows :).... Is it an area you would like automounting? [00:03] naw [00:04] wxl: should work fine.. i use samba quite a bit (even w/o windows machines) cuz its just so easy.... just open pcman smb://192.168.1.xx [00:04] KM0201: what about in cli? [00:04] pcmanfm 'should' be able to see it. As not too many of us have drives that need samba, I'm at a loss as to who to suggest can help. I know how to alter the fstab to automount. [00:05] thanks KM0201 :) [00:05] um, i've never tried to mount one from cli, but it shouldn't be to difficult i dont think [00:05] use the same ops as for fstab table? [00:05] so he's trying to automount a samba share? [00:06] no automount [00:06] i thought he was just trying to mount it it. [00:06] weird [00:06] i don't have smbfs [00:06] sudo apt-get install samba [00:07] i dont think samba installs automatically [00:07] did you have an smb.conf? [00:07] well i have no problem accessing in pcmanfm [00:07] if it is ntfs, you may want the easy version of ntfs-config? [00:07] http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=96 [00:08] ok.. so you have no problem accessing i pcmanfm.. so.. you want to automount a samba share? (thought you said earlier you didn't wanted "no automount".. or am i confused) [00:09] nope you're on it KM0201 [00:09] wxl: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html [00:09] problem was smbfs was missing [00:09] ok. [00:09] now mount -t cifs blah blah all good [00:11] wxl: I'm guessing the library eats up RAM... therefore not a default. I'll check with the boss. [00:13] phillw: i'd be interested to know [00:13] i could see the argument made that few use cli and it's not necessary [00:13] and that the hardcore user will figure it out and install what they want [00:22] wxl: does network share now work? [00:22] no problem phillw [00:23] then, for network share to function, it needs smbfs - that is a bug :) [00:33] wxl: I've flagged it to our head of dev, but the mailing list archiving is 'down'. I've also forwarded it to the general mailing list, so if you are a member you will be able to track it. [00:51] phillw: you should not need smbfs [00:51] cifs [00:53] is cifs part of the smbfs package ? or is there a samba-client package ? [02:23] option does not work Lubuntu 11.10 If netbook runs on openbox and Lubuntu [02:23] I have to do [02:24] hi [02:24] hi silverlightning [02:24] option does not work Lubuntu 11.10 If netbook runs on openbox and Lubuntu [02:26] I should do? === silverlightning is now known as silverarrow [02:42] anyone having trouble with mplayer ? [02:45] silverarrow: no sorry [02:45] hi [02:46] I keep having picture not following frame size, audio out of sync [03:26] Can anyone help me figure out why the battery monitor always says I have 100% battery and always displays that my battery is "critical"? [03:33] is linux a bit messy with deleted documents? [03:33] I mean, do the get stuck? [03:33] smw: that is strange...sounds like possible bug [03:33] silverlightning: what do you mean? Not that i have ever seen [03:34] stlsaint, got any ideas on debugging? the cmd acpi gives the correct into [03:34] I have files showing I deleted a few days ago [03:34] and when I try to delete them, something goes wrong [03:34] smw: not at this time - not on my lubuntu install [03:35] silverlightning: what are you using to delete? cli or gui? [03:36] just right click and delete? [03:36] in filemanager [03:36] are there any other way? [03:37] silverlightning: you said "something goes wrong"...what is that something? [03:37] is this an unheard of problem? [03:40] I installed lubuntu from cd 11.10 [03:40] I messed something up and reinstalled it all over [03:41] thinking I deleted the whole thing [03:41] but it turns up a file or home from the last install [03:41] I used a different name and computer name on the install, that is why I am sure of the fact [03:42] I cannot delete them [03:43] yea something might have went wrong when you installed a os over itself twice [03:44] however I did choose delete in the install guide [03:45] silverlightning: what file are you tring to delete? [03:45] http://imagebin.org/179988 [03:46] I'm not being all that clear, sorry. The files I cannot delete is on a usb connected sata hd [03:46] that is what I get [03:46] the files are just left over stuff from torrents downloads, tv film [03:47] I moved my entire documents and folders to the other hard drive when I installed 11.10 [03:48] I'm trying to tidy things up a bit, getting rid of useless stuf [03:48] silverlightning, that looks like a permissions problem [03:48] what exactly are you trying to delete ? [03:49] data on a usb connected hard drive [03:49] some old files on a flash drive it looks like [03:49] sudo -i [03:49] cd /media/your_mount_point [03:49] unwanted folders on a USB connected hard drive [03:49] rm -rf bad_file [03:50] rm -rf bad_directory [03:50] rm -rf /media/your_mount_point/* will get it all [03:50] it's a SATA HD 320GB I put in a caddie, for external storage [03:50] so ? [03:51] bodhizazen: ppfftttt ah i was getting there :P [03:51] * stlsaint is also trying to figure out why he cant install postresql to BT5 on his xoom ;) [03:51] silverlightning, do you understand linux permissions ? [03:52] not really, but I do know I need to be in root for some stuff [03:52] www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml [03:52] thanks [03:52] what file system is this ? [03:52] FAT ? NTFS ? ext4 ? [03:53] who owns the files ? [03:53] ls -l /media [03:53] sudo chown [03:53] sudo chmod [03:53] hmm, probably ext4, some of the drive is ntfs [03:53] Well, it does vary with file system [03:54] nfts and vfat are set when you mount the partition [03:54] ext4 you manage with chown and chmod [03:54] I do, I mean, I just copied documents folder to the external hd [03:54] tricky [03:55] copied the documents as root ? [03:55] as your user ? [03:55] hmm [03:55] to vfat ? ntfs ? ext4 ? [03:56] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?&t=283131 [03:56] I copied from filemanager, just dragged and dropped to the usb storage [03:56] all ext4 [03:56] you need to either give us more information (file system, ownership, etc) or understand permissions yourself [03:56] yes, all is on the ext4 part [03:57] so, if you own the files, you should be able to remove them [03:57] ls -l [03:57] I am only user of this computer, I did all of the copying by dragging and dropping from filemanager windows [03:57] now that sounds like a windows user [03:57] this is linux, you are not the only user [03:58] cat /etc/passwd [03:58] cat /etc/groups [03:58] yes, there are the odd lepracon when I turn my back [03:58] you are one of many users and each file has an owner, and a group [03:59] permissions are set for owner, group, and other as per the link I gave you [03:59] well, your thinking you are somehow the only user is as magical thinking as the unicorn [03:59] it is a fallacy [03:59] I'm not sure I understand [03:59] this is linux, there are several users on your system [04:00] I am starting to get that [04:00] hmm [04:00] wc -l /etc/passwd [04:01] I have 45 users =) [04:01] hmm [04:01] again every file has an owner and a group [04:01] you can view them with ls -l [04:01] or from your file manager -> permissions tab [04:01] I got 26 it seems [04:02] linux permissions are one of the foundations of security [04:02] you can not simply delete or alter files you do not have permission to alter [04:03] http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml [04:03] http://imagebin.org/179989 [04:03] that is your home directory [04:03] you own that [04:03] you can delete anything you want [04:03] cd /media [04:03] ls -l [04:04] so, trouble is I coped to the external hard drive, and now it is not mine anymore? [04:04] silverlightning, sudo apt-get install pastebinit [04:04] ls -l | pastebinit [04:04] and post the url here [04:05] i don't know, you are not telling me sufficient details [04:06] what am I installing now? [04:06] what haven't I told you? [04:06] ownersip and permissions of the files you want to delete [04:07] you are installing a tool to automate pastebin so you do not have to post pictures which is inefficient [04:07] http://paste.ubuntu.com/713841/ [04:08] did't I just post that in picture bin? [04:08] I see [04:08] I enter this in a terminal [04:08] 'ls -l /mnt | fpaste' [04:08] result [04:08] http://fpaste.org/t9db/ [04:08] very clever [04:08] hope I remember it [04:08] you are on ubuntu, so you need pastebinit [04:09] ls -l | pastebinit [04:09] ls -l /media | pastebinit [04:10] I trust from my paste you can tell who owns what with what permissions >:) [04:11] would it be root and bodi? [04:11] =) [04:12] oh I see [04:12] in this case the user and the group are the same [04:12] could be root bodhi [04:12] I get computer name [04:12] sudo chgrp bodhi /mnt/Dragon would do that [04:12] which is same as root? [04:13] what do you mean you get a computer name ? [04:13] And if you want someone to look at your output, use pastebin [04:13] some command | pastebinit [04:14] I need to get a list of commands [04:15] http://linuxcommand.org/ [04:15] naw, you just need to use the terminal more [04:15] bookmarked [04:16] you are right, I sort of go for other options if there are any [04:16] like package manager and other managers [04:16] Nothing wrong with a graphical interface [04:17] but the command line is easier to problem solve [04:17] and it is much easier for us to tell you a command [04:17] yes, might be [04:17] I just don't get what I'm doing [04:17] ls -l | pastebinit [04:17] then all the various mouse clicks [04:18] you will get it fast enough [04:18] there are also help pages [04:19] man pastebinit [04:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/713843/ [04:19] there you go, see, easier and faster then a screenshot [04:19] ls -l /media | pastebinit [04:20] you can also [04:20] yes, ver fast [04:20] mv *.png *.JPG Pictures [04:21] sort of keeps /home organized that way [04:21] thanks for your help [04:22] you can complete file names with the tab key [04:22] ls Pic [04:22] cd /me [04:26] I need to use it a couple of times to get into it [04:26] ; ) [04:26] very clever stuff [04:26] I have to go [04:26] see you later [05:03] * wxl yawns [05:03] thanks phillw [05:19] hey so i seem to have kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko [05:20] and kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko [05:20] which driver am i actually using? [05:21] nouveau i think [05:22] then wtf on the nvidia? [05:22] fb- frame buffer. software and slowly [05:22] i would like to see if i have better luck without the non-free drivers [05:22] well nouveau can do framebuffer do [05:22] too [05:22] admittedly i don't think i have much ned for that [05:22] driver from nvidia need compile [05:25] lame additional drivers says i'm not using any proprietary drivers [05:25] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia [05:26] exactly [05:26] i can't suspend/hibernate which makes me wonder [05:27] admittedly there's no nvidia-settings [05:37] wxl: only russian manual http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_nvidia [05:37] :D [05:38] um [05:38] * wxl checks himself for russianness [05:38] nope, none there :D [05:38] use the chromium's translate option with right click :D [05:38] bah [05:38] that's one suck thing about ppc lubuntu [05:38] no chromium [05:38] can't find the same english [05:39] http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.ru%2Fwiki%2F%25D1%2583%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B2%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0_%25D0%25B4%25D1%2580%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B9%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B5%25D1%2580%25D0%25B0_nvidia [05:39] works like a dream [05:40] wxl: what kernel ? [05:41] if more 3.0 read this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/nvidia-legacy-drivers-with-slackware-13-1-and-kernel-3-0-a-894728/ [05:41] $ uname -r [05:41] 3.0.0-11-powerpc [05:42] use 3.0.4-generic. unpack *.run and use patcn [05:42] *patch [09:19] 'ello guvna [09:22] I can has the geek assistance [09:22] ? [09:22] maybe greek also [09:22] lol nice === P4R4N01D1 is now known as P4R4N01D [09:23] so.. [09:24] lubuntu volume control settings non-functional [09:24] any thoughts [09:25] you mean keyboard [09:25] or a slider in your system tray [09:25] "volume control" settings upon right click of volume icon [09:25] err left click [09:25] ahh [09:25] no right [09:26] we mostly do that from terminal [09:26] :D [09:26] open terminal [09:26] and run command: alsamixer [09:26] just as I suspected [09:27] oh yes...I DL'd a program that gives me this readout in gui [09:27] master, master M, and everything in between doesn't work [09:27] except for.. [09:27] headphones [09:27] and PCM [09:28] those 2 and can adjust volume with [09:28] further...I seem to have no functional system sounds [09:29] login...etc...yadda [09:29] remove M from master ;) [09:29] it should be OO [09:29] and not MM [09:29] with M -key you can mute and unmute [09:30] check [09:30] uno momento por favor [09:31] non-functional [09:32] PCM MASTER and hmm [09:32] what else are now OO? [09:32] headphone, PCM [09:33] and they are also set to the MAXIMUM VOLUME? ;-) [09:33] headphone is [09:33] PCM I roll to acceptable level [09:33] put PCM and master on full [09:33] we can lower them later :) [09:34] check [09:37] still no sound, for example from youtube? [09:38] I have audacious running...the only functional volume control is headphone [09:38] if I mute that there's nada [09:38] you have only one sound card? [09:38] yip [09:38] and you have connected speaker to right plug [09:39] it's usually the light green or something ;) [09:39] lol uh huh [09:43] I've run various versions of ubuntu on this machine never had an issue like this...usually it's some issue with the monitor or disc drive lol [09:43] yeah, ubuntu uses pulseadio [09:43] lubuntu uses just plain alsa [09:44] ah ha [09:44] wondered about that [09:45] is there a way to integrate pulseaudio [09:46] hmmm [09:46] I'm a little busy atm. at work [09:46] actually it's not a real big deal...just miss my volume knob [09:46] I understand [09:47] but if you can only control volume from headphones [09:47] then something is wrong [09:47] no doubt [09:47] makes no sense to me [09:47] and I dont know if you're using a laptop with integrated speakers or desktop computer with external spearks [09:47] or what [09:47] desktop [09:47] dimension 2400 [09:47] 2003 model [09:47] lol [09:47] and you're 100% sure you have inserted speaks into a correct "Socket"? [09:48] yeah the speakers are set up right [09:48] it jams in fact [09:49] dunno how the hell headphones became master [09:49] hard to tell ;) [09:50] but you just checked the backside of your computer? :) [09:50] I'm asking this becouse I just cant understand how headphones can act as master [09:50] oi....no...but I will....I'd crack up if that's the issue [09:50] and this is first time I hear something like that [09:54] everything is kosher [09:54] killed by slicing throat open and letting it to bleed till death? :) [09:55] basically [09:56] wonder if I'll spontaneously combust if I plug in the headphones [10:04] appreciate you sparing your time...I'm o u t~ [10:04] tc [12:42] hi...the best terminal for lubuntu? [13:39] Bulldozer: I use the default (LXTerminal). [18:27] why doesnt my lubuntu softwaare center work? :D [18:28] some kind of error message comes [18:28] when i try to start it [18:28] i have finnish version so its hard to tell what is it in english [18:29] wait what [18:29] ok now it works... looks like reboot worked [18:29] still it floods some gtk-warning [18:30] theme parsing error: gtk-bars.css:208:16: [18:31] Themeing engine 'adwaita' not found [18:31] :D [18:31] any1 can helP? [18:41] adwaita is gtk3 [18:44] so i donnt have GTK3? [18:45] how can i get TK#? [18:45] gtk3 [18:45] :D [18:47] I dunno, I'm a Gnome3 user nowdays ;) [18:49] cant stand gnome :D [18:50] because that unity shell :D [18:50] i dont know what kind of macfag made that unityshell :D [18:50] gnome shell, herp derp [18:50] lol [18:50] ew gnome? [18:51] wtf bioterror you give dude crap about old os x and then you go and use gnome [18:51] i liked gnome 2.x [18:51] barf [18:51] might as well use windows while you're at it [18:51] wsa a good mix of function, and kinda had a sexy simplicity [18:51] wxl, I'm using windows thru citrix ;) [18:51] "simplicity" is not a word i use with gnome [18:51] * wxl shakes his head in shame [18:51] lol [18:52] my system is ten times more up-to-date than his OS X from year 2003 [18:52] yep, with all the latest malware :D [18:53] where's the malmware? [18:53] doesn't it come pre-installed with windows? ;) [18:54] I dunno, I just use citrix [20:22] hi guys anybody there? [20:22] yep [20:22] cool [20:23] yep [20:23] quick question: in the 11.04 version there was a way that I could make a mouse click on the desktop be both a short cut to the desktop menu(change background) and to the normal stuff like browser and all the lot you get , how do I get this in this version? [20:24] you mean right click? [20:24] and second , where do I change the default browser(as choosing browser on a desktop right click would choose epiphany always [20:24] yes [20:26] Hello people [20:26] How are ya? [20:26] How can i add programs to the startup list? [20:26] hi sonarctica [20:26] There's no button or text file to modify [20:26] morri: it's an openbox setting [20:26] hold on [20:33] weird it's not behaving for me [20:34] wxl: Told ya :) [20:34] bizarre [20:34] sonartica: do you mean the little thing in the bottom left? that's easy [20:35] morri: it should be a matter of cp /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml to ~/.config/openbox [20:35] but don't work for me [20:36] at least not followed by openbox --reconfigure [20:36]