| deithrian | Hello guys FUCK YOU for releasing 11.10 with broken DSL that is all thank you (: | 02:04 |
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| bazhang | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule DoverOs | 06:14 |
| DoverOs | i see | 06:15 |
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| m4yer | ich hab probleme mit wine auf einem 64bit-system ... es sagt, dass es opengl nicht finden kann ... | 11:26 |
| m4yer | err:wgl:has_opengl Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: Kann die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden | 11:26 |
| m4yer | err:wgl:has_opengl OpenGL support is disabled. | 11:26 |
| m4yer | jemand zufällig eine idee, wie ich das fixen kann? wine:i386 wirft bergeweise abhängigkeitsprobleme auf | 11:27 |
| m4yer | oh, wrong channel, never mind ... | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | t | 11:52 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, hi | 12:27 |
| gnomefreak | hi bazhang | 12:27 |
| RafaelItpro | Hello Guys! | 12:31 |
| RafaelItpro | Someone tell me how to make a VM of Ubuntu 4.12? | 12:32 |
| RafaelItpro | 12.04 | 12:32 |
| sagaci | RafaelItpro: desktop? | 12:32 |
| RafaelItpro | yes! | 12:32 |
| Ian_Corne | install 11.10 in the vm and upgrade | 12:33 |
| Ian_Corne | to 12.04 | 12:33 |
| RafaelItpro | ok Ian_Corne thansk! | 12:35 |
| RafaelItpro | Where you live? | 12:36 |
| RafaelItpro | I am Brazilian. | 12:36 |
| Ian_Corne | I'm Belgian | 12:37 |
| patdk-wk | I'm a mutt | 12:37 |
| RafaelItpro | Working at a university and use 100% of our Ubuntu servers. | 12:38 |
| RafaelItpro | On the desktop environment for Ubuntu is 80%. | 12:39 |
| Ian_Corne | I don't know what you're talking about :p | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | how do i use the cube? or any other compiz settings i have enabled. like water, wobbly windows, ect... | 13:31 |
| Azelphur | gnomefreak: install compizconfig settings manager | 13:32 |
| gnomefreak | it is , let me check but i think it is | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | yes it isd | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | is | 13:33 |
| gnomefreak | i enabled them just cant get them to do anything | 13:33 |
| Azelphur | try relogging, sometimes ccsm settings don't take effect for some reason | 13:33 |
| h00k | This channel isn't for 11.10 support | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | h00k: and im not on 11.10 | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | Description:Ubuntu precise (development branch) | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | Release:12.04 | 13:34 |
| gnomefreak | brgb try signing in again | 13:34 |
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| gnomefreak | yeah im still not getting anything. example water effects key combo is alt+super andf nothing happens | 13:45 |
| gnomefreak | sorry ctrl+super | 13:45 |
| gnomefreak | ctrl+super gives each icon in launcher panel numbers | 13:46 |
| h00k | gnomefreak: just Super by itself gives each icon numbers in the launcher | 13:47 |
| gnomefreak | ctrl+alt+down does not use cube but brings up a desktop switer box | 13:47 |
| gnomefreak | so its ignoring the ctrl | 13:48 |
| gnomefreak | me is just going on key combos in compiz settings advanced search | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | radeontool is installed by default but when you use show you get this message in description | 13:53 |
| gnomefreak | WARNING: Radeontool code has not been completely audited and may contain bugs that could damage your hardware. Use at your own risk. | 13:53 |
| penguin42 | damage to wildlife may not be impossible; do not use if you plan on having children...... | 13:54 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: I like the collection of warnings on hdparm, the flags vary from DANGEROUS, through VERY DANGEROUS to EXTREMELY DANGEROUS | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 13:55 |
| Pici | nice | 13:55 |
| genii-around | Shouldn't it be using sdparm now? | 13:56 |
| * gnomefreak thinks we should *NOT* include packages with these warnings in default install. but hey thats just me | 13:57 | |
| gnomefreak | since hdparm in installed by default and sdparm isnt i would say use either but we are expected to ise hdparm maybe? | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | s/ose/use | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | ise even | 13:59 |
| penguin42 | gnomefreak: The problem is that they are useful tools to dig yourself out of a hole; but you can make a very big one with them | 14:00 |
| gnomefreak | true | 14:01 |
| GTRsdk | Has anyone been able to successfully upgrade from Lucid to Precise? | 16:51 |
| Stanley00 | GTRsdk: precise? It's not started yet... | 16:52 |
| GTRsdk | Stanley00: I have th e sources.list entries, and they work fine. | 16:52 |
| carli2 | hi | 16:53 |
| carli2 | will 12.04 support the pandora platform? | 16:54 |
| GTRsdk | I didn't run any Lucid updates | 16:54 |
| GTRsdk | So that could be an issue | 16:54 |
| GTRsdk | carli2: I would imagine it would work, as lo ng as Debian works on it | 16:54 |
| jbicha | carli2: what in the world is the pandora platform? | 16:55 |
| carli2 | jbicha: google for "openpandora" | 16:55 |
| jbicha | but maybe I don't want to open pandora! ;) | 16:56 |
| GTRsdk | carli2: I think Debian would have to be able to run on openpandora first | 16:58 |
| carli2 | GTRsdk: an other problem would be the proprietary gpu driver which needs EGL and enables GLES 1.1/2.0. but when precise introduces wayland, it should be no problem | 16:59 |
| GTRsdk | carli2: It appears to use the ARM processor, so I think it would work if the graphics will work properly. | 17:01 |
| jbicha | it also depends on what you mean by "support", Unity won't work well on an 800x480 screen | 17:03 |
| carli2 | fail :D | 17:06 |
| GTRsdk | Would updating some packagies from Oneiric help? | 17:16 |
| GTRsdk | That doesn't work, since Precise must have some new packages. | 17:17 |
| bjsnider | someone named a platform "openpandora"? you cannot be serious | 17:42 |
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| penguin42 | bjsnider: Well, once it's open | 18:54 |
| e\ectro | what is the max character length of a username? | 18:57 |
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| csgeek | I'm having essentially the same problem as: http://serverfault.com/questions/321724/ubuntu-server-upgrade-over-ssh-hang | 19:20 |
| csgeek | anyone have any hints/suggestions? | 19:20 |
| GTRsdk | It looks like Lucid to Precise isn't yet possible... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 19:22 |
| Ian_Corne | who the hell upgrades over ssh :p | 19:22 |
| guntbert | csgeek: don't worry about the message for now - use top/htop/iotop to determine if there is any activity from the upgrade process | 19:22 |
| Pici | I do. | 19:22 |
| Pici | GTRsdk: Of course it isn't. Precise is nearly the same thing as Oneiric at this point. | 19:23 |
| GTRsdk | Pici: That's somewhat disappointing... Is there a way to rescure a Lucid computer that tried to upgrade to Precise? | 19:24 |
| Pici | GTRsdk: Restore from your backup. | 19:25 |
| GTRsdk | Pici: deja dup? | 19:25 |
| jbicha | csgeek: I've upgraded several times over ssh, it requires a bit of babysitting as I regularly get freezes | 19:26 |
| penguin42 | jbicha: That's somewhere between brave and foolhardy..... | 19:26 |
| csgeek | it's not the ssh part I'm concerned about.. it's the I'm stuck | 19:26 |
| csgeek | I'm sitting at the physical machine.. the error was identical | 19:26 |
| Pici | GTRsdk: whatever backup you made before you started this upgrade. | 19:26 |
| jbicha | GTRsdk: why do you expect a Lucid to Precise upgrade to work? most devs are still on Oneiric | 19:26 |
| GTRsdk | Pici: I didn't make any backups, so how should I make one on Lucid? | 19:27 |
| jbicha | csgeek: I don't remember the exact commands I had to use, basically I used top to see what apt/dpkg command was stuck so I could kill it | 19:27 |
| csgeek | guntbert: it was stuck on that for over 20-30 minutes | 19:28 |
| jbicha | and do sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade repeatedly until it finishes | 19:28 |
| jbicha | but please don't blame me if you have problems doing that | 19:28 |
| Pici | GTRsdk: I don't know what to say. | 19:29 |
| csgeek | yeah.. I Ctrl+C ed it already | 19:29 |
| csgeek | I'm going back and forth between dpkg --configure + upgrade | 19:29 |
| jbicha | penguin42: what else can you do when you're renting a webserver you don't have physical access to? | 19:29 |
| jbicha | actually last time I used ps aux | grep apt or grep dpkg, a bit more "precise" than just using top | 19:30 |
| penguin42 | jbicha: The company I use has a separate ssh access to the console, separate from the installation in the VM | 19:41 |
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| iceroot | as it seems there are already 12.04 packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ but "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" is not showing 12.04. | 20:12 |
| yofel | iceroot: it won't until alpha1 | 20:13 |
| yofel | for now you need to s/oneiric/precise/ in your sorces.list by hand | 20:13 |
| yofel | *sources.list | 20:13 |
| jbicha | iceroot: upgrading to 12.04 isn't supported yet either, even for early adopters :) | 20:13 |
| iceroot | ah ok, so "do-release-upgrade -d" is doing more then just searching for the 12.04 repo | 20:13 |
| arand | It does some sanity checks, disables PPAs, afaik | 20:14 |
| iceroot | but using stable isnt fun :( its mainstream *gg* | 20:14 |
| iceroot | any timeline for alpha1? | 20:15 |
| iceroot | ah topic... | 20:16 |
| Pici | And it shouldn't need to be mentioned (...) but upgrading from Lucid isn't supported yet either. | 20:16 |
| iceroot | :) | 20:17 |
| yofel | oh right, LTS upgrade time, this'll be fun ^^ | 20:17 |
| iceroot | without wayland its boring :) | 20:17 |
| yofel | well, that doesn't affect me at least, as I'm on nvidia | 20:18 |
| iceroot | i think that change will affect alot | 20:18 |
| iceroot | imo the biggest change in the last years much bigger then gnome2 -> unity or upstart | 20:19 |
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| FernandoMiguel | hi | 20:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: ping | 20:43 |
| bjsnider | hi | 20:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: /j #ubuntu-mozilla | 20:44 |
| bjsnider | why? | 20:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | cause you said you were willing to give chromium packing a help | 20:44 |
| bjsnider | i tried to build it here last night | 20:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | please join | 20:46 |
| bjsnider | the source of the latest code is 220mb compressed | 20:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | you can get more help there | 20:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | chrisccoulson: is just trying to package a new build | 20:46 |
| bjsnider | there's nobody there | 20:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: /j #ubuntu-mozillateam sorry | 20:47 |
| bjsnider | source package is too big for my connection | 20:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | okay | 20:47 |
| habanany | anybody help ? im using a 4gb usb, what should be the parmeter to put in ... spaces used to preserve files across reboots ubuntu only size unebootin | 20:57 |
| habanany | forgot to mention , im istalling ubuntu 11.04 live persistent | 20:58 |
| arand | !oneiric | 20:59 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) is the current release of Ubuntu | Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1110 | 20:59 |
| arand | habanany: Support for non-dev releases in #ubuntu | 20:59 |
| habanany | ok | 21:00 |
| arand | I was looking for the !support factoid, rather :) | 21:01 |
| Pici | The !$developmentversion factoid in #ubuntu normally pushes you to this channel, its sort of logical to think the opposite would work here. | 21:02 |
| Pici | But it doesn't, too bad. | 21:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | anyone knows where I can get extra support for ARM? | 21:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | planning to look to buy a arm laptop | 21:03 |
| bjsnider | FernandoMiguel, did you buy a new craptop? | 21:03 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: What form of support? | 21:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | and test run arm on it | 21:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | s/arm/ubuntu | 21:03 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: There is a #ubuntu-arm | 21:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: laptop DIED :( | 21:04 |
| bjsnider | i know | 21:04 |
| bjsnider | it's not dead, it's just functionally challenged | 21:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | ahah | 21:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | sure | 21:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | no GPU | 21:04 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: There is quite a range of different ARM versions; make sure you get something fairly new; something based on a Cortex-a9 preferably | 21:05 |
| FernandoMiguel | works great as a server .... | 21:05 |
| FernandoMiguel | bl | 21:05 |
| penguin42 | FernandoMiguel: And preferably with Neon | 21:05 |
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| johnjohn101 | anyone here? | 23:21 |
| penguin42 | maybe | 23:22 |
| johnjohn101 | i was reading about the goals for pangolin and had some questions about multiple monitors | 23:23 |
| penguin42 | hmm I don't know anything about the goals | 23:24 |
| johnjohn101 | it's ok, just wanted to know what some of the issues with multiple monitors are are why they are hard to setup. | 23:24 |
| johnjohn101 | Precise Pangolin will also offer better support for multiple monitors, Shuttleworth said. | 23:25 |
| penguin42 | johnjohn101: The graphics drivers seem to be less stable on multiple monitors - memory allocation is difficult for them I think | 23:25 |
| penguin42 | johnjohn101: There are also questions about whether Unity works well on multiple monitors - e.g. where do you put the dock and where do the menus live | 23:25 |
| johnjohn101 | so it's really the proprietary drivers that have the issues and not x.org? | 23:26 |
| johnjohn101 | i can understand those issues with the DE for sure. | 23:26 |
| penguin42 | even the Intel drivers are touchy on multiple monitors | 23:27 |
| johnjohn101 | yeah, it would be nice to get this addressed once and for all in the linux world | 23:28 |
| johnjohn101 | just like the had the focus on hibernate/suspend and udev | 23:28 |
| johnjohn101 | i really thought xorg.conf went away. | 23:30 |
| penguin42 | it has mostly - most stuff is auto detected | 23:30 |
| johnjohn101 | i appreciate the insignt | 23:31 |
| penguin42 | multi monitor seems to work pretty well on the Lucid laptop (Intel graphics) i use for work; I can pick the laptop up and wonder into a meeting room and come back to my desk and plug my external monitor in with not too much hastle | 23:31 |
| johnjohn101 | very cool. | 23:31 |
| johnjohn101 | when my wife is getting dual monitors at work, you know it's becoming mainstream!! | 23:32 |
| penguin42 | actually the one thing I'd like is a bit more intelligence about being able to remember preferences - e.g. Gnome on Lucid always defaults to it putting the new monitor on the right which is incorrect for my current desk at work! | 23:32 |
| johnjohn101 | are you actually working on the next release? | 23:33 |
| penguin42 | no, I'm just a volunteer | 23:33 |
| johnjohn101 | i wish i had time to attend uds. always love to read what comes out of there | 23:33 |
| johnjohn101 | hard to believe ubuntu is 7 years old. i installed the first version with the red shipit cds but didn't make it my make desktop until 9.10 | 23:35 |
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