[02:04] Hello guys FUCK YOU for releasing 11.10 with broken DSL that is all thank you (: [06:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule DoverOs [06:15] i see === Kiranos_ is now known as Kiranos === jason is now known as jasef === james_t_ is now known as jamestunnicliffe [11:26] ich hab probleme mit wine auf einem 64bit-system ... es sagt, dass es opengl nicht finden kann ... [11:26] err:wgl:has_opengl Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: Kann die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden [11:26] err:wgl:has_opengl OpenGL support is disabled. [11:27] jemand zufällig eine idee, wie ich das fixen kann? wine:i386 wirft bergeweise abhängigkeitsprobleme auf [11:28] oh, wrong channel, never mind ... [11:52] t [12:27] gnomefreak, hi [12:27] hi bazhang [12:31] Hello Guys! [12:32] Someone tell me how to make a VM of Ubuntu 4.12? [12:32] 12.04 [12:32] RafaelItpro: desktop? [12:32] yes! [12:33] install 11.10 in the vm and upgrade [12:33] to 12.04 [12:35] ok Ian_Corne thansk! [12:36] Where you live? [12:36] I am Brazilian. [12:37] I'm Belgian [12:37] I'm a mutt [12:38] Working at a university and use 100% of our Ubuntu servers. [12:39] On the desktop environment for Ubuntu is 80%. [12:45] I don't know what you're talking about :p [13:31] how do i use the cube? or any other compiz settings i have enabled. like water, wobbly windows, ect... [13:32] gnomefreak: install compizconfig settings manager [13:33] it is , let me check but i think it is [13:33] yes it isd [13:33] is [13:33] i enabled them just cant get them to do anything [13:33] try relogging, sometimes ccsm settings don't take effect for some reason [13:34] This channel isn't for 11.10 support [13:34] h00k: and im not on 11.10 [13:34] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [13:34] Description: Ubuntu precise (development branch) [13:34] Release: 12.04 [13:34] brgb try signing in again === STiK_M is now known as STiK_SS [13:45] yeah im still not getting anything. example water effects key combo is alt+super andf nothing happens [13:45] sorry ctrl+super [13:46] ctrl+super gives each icon in launcher panel numbers [13:47] gnomefreak: just Super by itself gives each icon numbers in the launcher [13:47] ctrl+alt+down does not use cube but brings up a desktop switer box [13:48] so its ignoring the ctrl [13:49] me is just going on key combos in compiz settings advanced search [13:53] radeontool is installed by default but when you use show you get this message in description [13:53] WARNING: Radeontool code has not been completely audited and may contain bugs that could damage your hardware. Use at your own risk. [13:54] damage to wildlife may not be impossible; do not use if you plan on having children...... [13:55] gnomefreak: I like the collection of warnings on hdparm, the flags vary from DANGEROUS, through VERY DANGEROUS to EXTREMELY DANGEROUS [13:55] lol [13:55] nice [13:56] Shouldn't it be using sdparm now? [13:57] * gnomefreak thinks we should *NOT* include packages with these warnings in default install. but hey thats just me [13:59] since hdparm in installed by default and sdparm isnt i would say use either but we are expected to ise hdparm maybe? [13:59] s/ose/use [13:59] ise even [14:00] gnomefreak: The problem is that they are useful tools to dig yourself out of a hole; but you can make a very big one with them [14:01] true [16:51] Has anyone been able to successfully upgrade from Lucid to Precise? [16:52] GTRsdk: precise? It's not started yet... [16:52] Stanley00: I have th e sources.list entries, and they work fine. [16:53] hi [16:54] will 12.04 support the pandora platform? [16:54] I didn't run any Lucid updates [16:54] So that could be an issue [16:54] carli2: I would imagine it would work, as lo ng as Debian works on it [16:55] carli2: what in the world is the pandora platform? [16:55] jbicha: google for "openpandora" [16:56] but maybe I don't want to open pandora! ;) [16:58] carli2: I think Debian would have to be able to run on openpandora first [16:59] GTRsdk: an other problem would be the proprietary gpu driver which needs EGL and enables GLES 1.1/2.0. but when precise introduces wayland, it should be no problem [17:01] carli2: It appears to use the ARM processor, so I think it would work if the graphics will work properly. [17:03] it also depends on what you mean by "support", Unity won't work well on an 800x480 screen [17:06] fail :D [17:16] Would updating some packagies from Oneiric help? [17:17] That doesn't work, since Precise must have some new packages. [17:42] someone named a platform "openpandora"? you cannot be serious === __mikem is now known as mmiller235 [18:54] bjsnider: Well, once it's open [18:57] what is the max character length of a username? === Shadows` is now known as SoulShadow [19:20] I'm having essentially the same problem as: http://serverfault.com/questions/321724/ubuntu-server-upgrade-over-ssh-hang [19:20] anyone have any hints/suggestions? [19:22] It looks like Lucid to Precise isn't yet possible... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [19:22] who the hell upgrades over ssh :p [19:22] csgeek: don't worry about the message for now - use top/htop/iotop to determine if there is any activity from the upgrade process [19:22] I do. [19:23] GTRsdk: Of course it isn't. Precise is nearly the same thing as Oneiric at this point. [19:24] Pici: That's somewhat disappointing... Is there a way to rescure a Lucid computer that tried to upgrade to Precise? [19:25] GTRsdk: Restore from your backup. [19:25] Pici: deja dup? [19:26] csgeek: I've upgraded several times over ssh, it requires a bit of babysitting as I regularly get freezes [19:26] jbicha: That's somewhere between brave and foolhardy..... [19:26] it's not the ssh part I'm concerned about.. it's the I'm stuck [19:26] I'm sitting at the physical machine.. the error was identical [19:26] GTRsdk: whatever backup you made before you started this upgrade. [19:26] GTRsdk: why do you expect a Lucid to Precise upgrade to work? most devs are still on Oneiric [19:27] Pici: I didn't make any backups, so how should I make one on Lucid? [19:27] csgeek: I don't remember the exact commands I had to use, basically I used top to see what apt/dpkg command was stuck so I could kill it [19:28] guntbert: it was stuck on that for over 20-30 minutes [19:28] and do sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade repeatedly until it finishes [19:28] but please don't blame me if you have problems doing that [19:29] GTRsdk: I don't know what to say. [19:29] yeah.. I Ctrl+C ed it already [19:29] I'm going back and forth between dpkg --configure + upgrade [19:29] penguin42: what else can you do when you're renting a webserver you don't have physical access to? [19:30] actually last time I used ps aux | grep apt or grep dpkg, a bit more "precise" than just using top [19:41] jbicha: The company I use has a separate ssh access to the console, separate from the installation in the VM === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:12] as it seems there are already 12.04 packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ but "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" is not showing 12.04. [20:13] iceroot: it won't until alpha1 [20:13] for now you need to s/oneiric/precise/ in your sorces.list by hand [20:13] *sources.list [20:13] iceroot: upgrading to 12.04 isn't supported yet either, even for early adopters :) [20:13] ah ok, so "do-release-upgrade -d" is doing more then just searching for the 12.04 repo [20:14] It does some sanity checks, disables PPAs, afaik [20:14] but using stable isnt fun :( its mainstream *gg* [20:15] any timeline for alpha1? [20:16] ah topic... [20:16] And it shouldn't need to be mentioned (...) but upgrading from Lucid isn't supported yet either. [20:17] :) [20:17] oh right, LTS upgrade time, this'll be fun ^^ [20:17] without wayland its boring :) [20:18] well, that doesn't affect me at least, as I'm on nvidia [20:18] i think that change will affect alot [20:19] imo the biggest change in the last years much bigger then gnome2 -> unity or upstart === csgeek is now known as Alien_Freak === Alien_Freak is now known as csgeek [20:43] hi [20:43] bjsnider: ping [20:44] hi [20:44] bjsnider: /j #ubuntu-mozilla [20:44] why? [20:44] cause you said you were willing to give chromium packing a help [20:45] i tried to build it here last night [20:46] please join [20:46] the source of the latest code is 220mb compressed [20:46] you can get more help there [20:46] chrisccoulson: is just trying to package a new build [20:46] there's nobody there [20:47] bjsnider: /j #ubuntu-mozillateam sorry [20:47] source package is too big for my connection [20:47] okay [20:57] anybody help ? im using a 4gb usb, what should be the parmeter to put in ... spaces used to preserve files across reboots ubuntu only size unebootin [20:58] forgot to mention , im istalling ubuntu 11.04 live persistent [20:59] !oneiric [20:59] Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) is the current release of Ubuntu | Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1110 [20:59] habanany: Support for non-dev releases in #ubuntu [21:00] ok [21:01] I was looking for the !support factoid, rather :) [21:02] The !$developmentversion factoid in #ubuntu normally pushes you to this channel, its sort of logical to think the opposite would work here. [21:02] But it doesn't, too bad. [21:03] anyone knows where I can get extra support for ARM? [21:03] planning to look to buy a arm laptop [21:03] FernandoMiguel, did you buy a new craptop? [21:03] FernandoMiguel: What form of support? [21:03] and test run arm on it [21:03] s/arm/ubuntu [21:03] FernandoMiguel: There is a #ubuntu-arm [21:04] bjsnider: laptop DIED :( [21:04] i know [21:04] it's not dead, it's just functionally challenged [21:04] ahah [21:04] sure [21:04] no GPU [21:05] FernandoMiguel: There is quite a range of different ARM versions; make sure you get something fairly new; something based on a Cortex-a9 preferably [21:05] works great as a server .... [21:05] bl [21:05] FernandoMiguel: And preferably with Neon === DIFH-iceroot is now known as iceroot === FernandoMiguel is now known as FernandoM_androi [23:21] anyone here? [23:22] maybe [23:23] i was reading about the goals for pangolin and had some questions about multiple monitors [23:24] hmm I don't know anything about the goals [23:24] it's ok, just wanted to know what some of the issues with multiple monitors are are why they are hard to setup. [23:25] Precise Pangolin will also offer better support for multiple monitors, Shuttleworth said. [23:25] johnjohn101: The graphics drivers seem to be less stable on multiple monitors - memory allocation is difficult for them I think [23:25] johnjohn101: There are also questions about whether Unity works well on multiple monitors - e.g. where do you put the dock and where do the menus live [23:26] so it's really the proprietary drivers that have the issues and not x.org? [23:26] i can understand those issues with the DE for sure. [23:27] even the Intel drivers are touchy on multiple monitors [23:28] yeah, it would be nice to get this addressed once and for all in the linux world [23:28] just like the had the focus on hibernate/suspend and udev [23:30] i really thought xorg.conf went away. [23:30] it has mostly - most stuff is auto detected [23:31] i appreciate the insignt [23:31] multi monitor seems to work pretty well on the Lucid laptop (Intel graphics) i use for work; I can pick the laptop up and wonder into a meeting room and come back to my desk and plug my external monitor in with not too much hastle [23:31] very cool. [23:32] when my wife is getting dual monitors at work, you know it's becoming mainstream!! [23:32] actually the one thing I'd like is a bit more intelligence about being able to remember preferences - e.g. Gnome on Lucid always defaults to it putting the new monitor on the right which is incorrect for my current desk at work! [23:33] are you actually working on the next release? [23:33] no, I'm just a volunteer [23:33] i wish i had time to attend uds. always love to read what comes out of there [23:35] hard to believe ubuntu is 7 years old. i installed the first version with the red shipit cds but didn't make it my make desktop until 9.10