[00:37] I cant get my printer to print. I have booted from the Ubuntu CD, added the printer. It's model was recognized and I specified parallel port instead of HPLIP since it is connected to a parallel port. The Print Test Page command sends a job to the queue but nothing comes out. In the queue the job is listed as 'processing'. Should I have specified the HPLIP instead of a parallel port? [00:38] ubuntu__: if it was recognized you shouldn't have needed to change anything AFAIK... [00:39] ok. I'll re-add and accept the default for HPLIP. [00:39] Then again it has been a long time since I heard of a printer connecting via a paralel port [00:41] Now when I click Add there is no listing for my printer, just a request for a URI which I've no idea what that is. [00:42] That is typically needed for networked printers if I am not mistaken... [00:42] this is connected directly to my computer [00:42] I was finding it strange that your printer would be detected via lpt... I don't think that is possible... [00:43] maybe hold on for someone with a bit more savvy in these matters to come to your aid [00:44] is there a forum area specifically for hardware recognition problems? [00:45] ubuntu__: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332 [00:51] where is the firewall in Ubuntu? [00:52] ubuntu__: easiest why is in terminal "sudo ufw enable" ... there is a man page for ufw too you can read... and there is also a graphical front-end for it (but the name escapes me now) [00:53] ubuntu__: Gufw [00:53] I have no idea what you are talking about [00:55] ubuntu__: Ubuntu uses ufw (uncomplicated firewall) per default. [00:55] anyone know anything about playonlinux? [00:55] you can enable it via terminal by using the command "sudo ufw enable" and entering your password [00:55] ok, so it has a firewall. What is a man page? [00:56] main page i think [00:56] website [00:56] where is the terminal? [00:56] ubuntu__: in terminal you can type "man ufw" and it will display information on the command "ufw" [00:56] cntrl+alt+T [00:57] ubuntu__: you can do this for jusy about any command in linux to get more information on it ... man stands for manual if I am not mistaken... [00:58] oh sorry im pretty new to this OS myself didnt mean to give bad info [00:59] russ, that was helpful. I think i'm looking at the terminal now. [00:59] russ_: no worries... I am very much a newby myself [00:59] ubuntu__: cool :) now in the terminal type "sudo ufw enable" [01:00] just actually got it installed erlier today and been "playing around" since.... never really used anything but window OS [01:00] ubuntu__: sudo is to run it as "root (administrator) and then ufw enable turns on ufw [01:00] ubuntu__: when entering your password nothing will appear to happen... just type it in and press enter [01:01] no request for password [01:01] ubuntu__: strange... did you get any other message? [01:02] says... firewall active and enabled on system startup. [01:02] ubuntu__: well mission accomplished then as far as the firewall is concerned :) ... [01:02] ubuntu__: which version of Ubuntu are you running? [01:03] I think that does it for me for now.. thanks for your help, both of you. I'm running 11.10. Just downloaded the CD iso today. [01:03] Ah ok... cool, enjoy it [01:04] good night [01:04] anyone play call of duty via "playonlinux"? [01:05] russ_: no sorry... I have gotten some games to work though... [01:16] how do you register your nickname [01:16] do you have to do that for each ubuntu channel you enter [01:17] aviandroid: you only have to regsiter with freenode once and it will be valid for all channels hosted by them [01:19] aviandroid: so you would use /msg NickServ register [01:19] oh okay it said i needed to enter a channel [01:20] Insufficient parameters for REGISTER. [01:20] Syntax: REGISTER [01:20] aviandroid: sorry about that [01:20] no problem [01:21] appreciate the help [01:21] np [01:22] so I enter REGISTER [01:22] then password and email without < > characters [01:23] yes... drop the < and > [01:23] /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com [01:24] Note: Bar and beer are not good passwords [01:24] No channel joined. Try /join # [01:24] no luck got that [01:25] sorry for being such a n00b [01:25] aviandroid: I can't remember struggling this much and I am still a noob :p [01:25] And I just failed hard... [01:25] sorry aviandroid [01:25] you did start off with /msg Nickserv right [01:25] well you probably have more experience than you realize [01:26] no sorry [01:26] /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com [01:26] ;) [01:27] Just type /msg nickserv register thisismypass and@my.email [01:28] awesome thanks you guys [01:28] that was painful wasnt it [01:28] This might help later/too http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [01:28] aviandroid: no worries all is well that ends well... [01:29] aviandroid: for more fun with IRC you can use /msg NickServ help (and find more goodies) [01:29] useful link Unit193 much appreciated [01:30] awesome thank nlsthzn [01:30] *thanks [01:30] * nlsthzn gives Unit193 two thumbs up :D [01:30] nlsthzn: You did all the wokrrk, congrats [01:30] and a pat on the back for the both of you [01:33] Wait... this was work?! [01:33] :p [01:34] do you guys find xchat to best the best gui based irc client for ubuntu [01:34] aviandroid: I use Xchat... does what I need very well... [01:35] I'm not that fond of it, but go with ^^ [01:36] okay that is what i went with [01:36] * nlsthzn was waiting for Unit193 to say something like that :p [01:36] unit193 do you use something like irssi [01:37] aviandroid: No, not something like it, I use irssi ;) [01:37] got it [01:37] maybe someday but not anytime soon for me obviously [01:38] http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat [01:38] Those help pages are pure awesome [01:41] definitely pure awesome [01:42] bookmarked [01:49] nlzthzn unit193 can you guys recommend any websites for ubuntu software reviews and download [01:50] also news too [01:51] I like WebUpd8 for some news types [01:52] aviandroid: pro tip... start typing a name and then hit tab for autocomplete (easier to get my name right :p) [01:52] omgubuntu.co.uk [01:53] ^^ Too fanboi for me though ;) [01:53] nlsthzn: Take him to alt chan? [01:54] Unit193, nlsthzn my apologies [01:54] thanks for the tip [01:54] aviandroid: no worries... now I can see you pinging me too [01:55] * nlsthzn is a fan and also a "boy" [01:55] aviandroid: Why don't you join us on #ubuntu-beginners-team [01:56] oh okay so every time you use that function it pings you [01:56] aviandroid: a great place to learn more about Ubuntu and to help out is ubuntuforums.org [01:56] what exactly is that Unit193 [01:56] yes, adding a name alerts the user [01:57] i will certainly check it out i do appreciate your patience [01:57] That's the channel for offtopic talking :) [01:57] learning all kinds of stuff here [01:59] nlsthzn, i will check out those forums like you mentioned [01:59] Sweet... hope to see you aroudn there then :) [01:59] Unit193, i will also check out that channel too [02:00] yeah for sure [02:01] aviandroid: btw, you might want to add your nickserv password to Xchat to auto identify yourself... [02:01] else you have to do it everytime you log in ... [02:02] /msg NickServ identify [02:02] aviandroid: ^^ [02:02] nlsthzn, where is that located exactly in xchat [02:03] is it under settings [02:03] aviandroid: if I was @ home I could tell you exactly... it is the same place you select which server to connect to... [02:04] got it [02:04] * Unit193 waits for him to identify [02:04] thanks i now know exactly where it is at [02:05] ok, total newb question. I know that I shouldn't just go sudo-ing strange PPA's all willy nilly into my system, but I mean, how wary do I really need to be of non-approved packages, etc? [02:05] It seems like blogs and many help pages recommend adding all these unapproved PPAs, and I've tried to avoid it, but some of the software is pretty interesting. [02:06] maybe someone can help me? i installed ubuntu as dual boot with win 7 but the install never asked where i wanted to save. i had my main c:\ drive with windows but i am not sure how to get to where i can see where this OS is installed, or maybe partition more of my drive to give me more space with ubuntu [02:06] AScannerDarkly: I am not sure... how weary are you off loosing all your data or having all your information stolen? [02:06] pretty wary. [02:06] AScannerDarkly: You can try it in a VM too if you wish ;) [02:06] Stick with strictly Ubuntu PPAs? Can I trust some of the others, like mediabuntu, etc [02:07] And for that matter, how can I uninstall an app/PPA if I decide it was a bad idea to install? [02:07] AScannerDarkly: I have added PPA's before... but there is always risk... [02:07] As that ppa is listed in the help pages, should be fine [02:07] !ppapurge [02:07] Factoid 'ppapurge' not found [02:08] !ppa-purge [02:08] To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [02:08] hey, helpful as could be! Thanks! [02:08] aviandroid: you can identify yourself now with your password to see if it works [02:09] is ppa-purge apt-gettable? [02:09] belay that. [02:09] :) [02:10] :) [02:10] I have to say, apt-get is the best thing since sliced bread. [02:11] ^^ [02:11] I've toyed with linux for years, always installing and removing. I'm proud to say I'm 100% window$ free now. [02:11] that and now that I understand basic scripting somewhat....it's all so clear now. [02:11] that makes two of us AScannerDarkly [02:11] freaking a....Stallman was a geniiiiiioous. [02:12] anyhow, thanks for the tip. I installed a PPA I think I shouldn't have. This should take care of it. How do I remove the offending program though? [02:12] windows free and loving it [02:12] I honestly have no idea how to remove a program that isn't in the Application manager. [02:12] :| [02:13] AScannerDarkly, i am assuming through SoftwareCentre [02:13] like, if I installed a tarball, made it, etc.... [02:13] sorry that is over my head i will leave it to the pros from here [02:13] AScannerDarkly: Should be a README with unstall ideas [02:14] RTFM. You're likely right. [02:14] I tend to pick brains when they are handy. [02:14] but yes. I will. Ok, last newbie question, how do I get around in the man pages? [02:14] kind of lost there. [02:14] Needing a pro? Hope nlsthzn gets back then... [02:15] man PACKAGE [02:16] AScannerDarkly: Open a terminal and type man apt-get ? [02:17] but leik, how do I page down and page up, I cannot figure out how to make the man pages scroll...I know I'm likely somewhat retarded. [02:17] if it says, "1/65", how do I get to 2/65, etc? [02:18] * AScannerDarkly hears sound of people smacking foreheads in linux shame [02:18] Down arrow and page down [02:18] I tried that. [02:19] maybe it's my keyboard? [02:19] oh well. I'll check the man man. [02:19] night all. [02:20] Could have tried man man I guess :) [02:22] Unit193: Your the only pro in here at the moment it seems ;) [02:22] can i use NTFS with ubuntu? [02:22] Seems it's not using less [02:23] Russ_: Yep, it's called cifs [02:23] or is it FAT32 [02:23] Woops, cancel that [02:23] Russ_: What do you mean, as the partition FOR Ubuntu? [02:24] trying to format a partition on my hard drive to use with ubuntu but i dont know how to with ubuntu so im doing in windows [02:25] Just leave it as "free space", Ubuntu will use EXT4 for it (and some for swap) [02:25] so leave unalocated? [02:28] Yep [02:28] when doing a dual boot with windows Ubuntu creats 2 partitions/. [02:28] ? [02:28] !partition [02:28] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [02:28] Yes it will [02:29] ok just making sure thats what happened there, file system is still pretty foreign in ubunto [02:30] Russ_, do yuou have windows backed up? [02:30] you* [02:30] no but i dont have anything important on the pc its a laptop for school for me to mess around with stuff [02:31] like ubuntu [02:31] ha ha [02:31] i have windows OS on disk, if thats what you mean [02:32] Russ_, okay, I would be concerned if you know the limits of primary partitions on a single hd is 4 and if you realize that 3 primaries with a extended for the ext4, and a swap. [02:33] just to be safe here. [02:33] so thats going to try and create 2 more primarys? ext4 and swap? [02:35] let me go back to ubuntu and ill be back in just a sec [02:35] Russ_, if you have room for 2 more partitions I see people with a primary for the ext4 and a extended for the swap when it is nice to have both in a extended. Personally i just make the partitions with gparted ahead of time, and use a cusr=tom install. [02:35] custom* [02:36] i was only using one for windows, but the OEM had something partitioned on here an di just formatted it, Ubuntu used that one and made another [02:38] swap is the dual boot program? gore or something? [02:38] Russ_, swap is similiar to a paging file in windows it is used when the ram is heavily used. [02:39] oh [02:39] got 8 Gb so that shouldnt be needed [02:39] Russ_, if you want to hibernate you will. [02:41] so you think i should delete allpartitions and cusom install windows and ubunto again and just make sure i make room for extra space this time? [02:42] because when i first installed ubunto i only had 20G set aside for it because i was just messing with it didnt know if i was going to like it but i do [03:37] ok im back [03:37] how do you check how much disk space ypu have with ubuntu? [03:38] i can see how much disk space i have with windows lol [03:43] df -h [03:43] bodhizazen: pssttt...he left [03:44] oh crap [03:44] lol yea [03:45] looks like a hit and run [03:45] yep === fucrum is now known as fulcrum === matt_ is now known as Guest34887 [09:37] Hi, I'm completely new to Linux, and would like to create a partition running Ubuntu (11.1, 64 bit) on a new windows 7 machine, I've downloaded Gparted and the linux disk image and mounted them to DVDs, how should I approach actually making the partitions(s?) required for teh linux installation? [09:45] you can just install your ubunut Guest34887 ... It will ask you if you want to install ubuntu besides win7, so you can choose between both operating systems on each startup. you dont need to create the partition first :) [09:46] just put in your ubunut livecd, choose 'install ubuntu' and follow the steps. at the partitioning step, just choose install beside windows [09:47] you can also install ubuntu when you're within windows, just download the wubi installer and start installing :) [09:47] Will the installer allow me to create a aprtition during the install process? I'm currently running a 32-bit version of windows and am looking to install 64-bit linux on a partition so i can actually use my ram [09:48] it's a work amchine, mainly runnign Matlab, I'd probably ultimately be looking to wipe the windows aprtitionc ompeltely [09:48] it will be able to do that Guest34887 ;) [09:48] dont do wubi [09:49] you're just picking blood from your nose with it ;) [09:50] wubi is less preferable indeed [09:50] http://seogadget.co.uk/the-ubuntu-installation-guide/ >> start from "Completing your Ubuntu installation, step by step", there you see the partitioning step :) [09:50] thanks [09:50] its an old version of ubuntu though there, but the steps are quite the same [09:51] I'm sure it'll work out [09:51] if you've got any additional questions, just ask and we'll try to answer :) [09:52] main motivation for this move is that this brand new windows 7 machine with 4GB of ram can only see 2.9 of the ram cause of the 32 bit OS [10:55] Any ideas why tab-auto complete wouldn't be working in my terminal (fresh install of 11.10)? [11:02] what is the difference between pae and generic kernels ? [11:22] Hi, I've jsut installed Ubuntu 11.1, there doesn't seem to be an 'applications' folder? I find this somewhat confusing, and the Dash isn't the most helpful thing in the world...any suggestions? [11:30] guest_fkasj, at the bottom of the dash you will see icons, click the second one and then also click on the "filter options" to make it easier [11:30] but the best way to get what you want is to open the dash and start typing the name of the application you want... [11:31] Also, add your most used applications to the side-bar... [11:31] I will get round to that, I'm just surprised there's no applications folder in the home folder? [11:36] while I'm ehre, I've tried to launch dropbox and the whole program jsut freezes every tiem, how do I go about force quitting it? I've tried right clicking and quitting on the dock but to no avail [11:38] guest_fkasj, easy way.... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/freezeunfreeze-unity-app-killer/ [11:38] I always use system monitor to get the process id then use "sudo kill -9 " in terminal myself.... [11:40] is tehre a good basic rundown of linux functions/terminal commands etc you could reccommend? I know i could jsut google it, but tehre are tons out there and not much to tell them apart to teh untrained eye [11:42] guest_fkasj, I am a bit of a newby myself and have picked up a few commands that I use over the years... most of the tutorials on-line will be giving you the same information... [11:45] fair enough, all I need to be able to do it some basic stuff, maybe enough to say I've got some experience of using linux if anyone asks [14:40] Hi, I installed Ubuntu today, and I'm having some problems using the software centre. Firstly, I can't seem to find where thigns end up after downloading and so can't see how to install. Also, the proress window jsut has a bar saying 'updating cache, downloaded 0b of 7b and never makes any progress, anyone knwo what might be up? [14:44] guest_ppx: well after you install something it will usually go to your menus [14:44] as for the progress bar, maybe you need to check your sources listing [14:45] sources listing is whatever the default is, was inoy trying to download the flash plugin! but it seems ot happen with most thigns i try. [14:45] which menus does it appear in? I'm somewhat thrown by the lack of an applications folder, even with the dash home [14:46] doesn't seem to be anywhere i can just see a folder with all my applications [14:59] guest_ppx: You can in dash [15:00] Before searching, choose "more applications", then click the arrow next to "installed applications". [15:16] stupid is better than idiot.., :D [15:20] Hello. I am newb. Installed Ubuntu for the first time a hour ago. How do i install shit from .tar.gz ? I wanned to try and install some game just to get used to installing things on Ubuntu. Downloaded tar.gz. There's an instruction in README to run Setup.sh. But if i run it nothing particular happens. [15:24] Any one alive? [15:24] Erquint: this is a "family channel", please watch your language [15:24] You should not be installing anything from tar.gz [15:24] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware [15:25] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu [15:25] Also read this page: [15:25] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_management_system [15:26] It is written for Fedora, but the reasons not to install software outside of your package manager, apt with Ubuntu, are just as valid [15:26] What are you trying to install ? and why are you installing it from tar.gz ? [15:27] Ok. I am sorry for my lang. it will not happen again [15:27] And thanks for advice [15:27] np [15:27] I understand you are frustrated, but slow down a bit and we can help [15:29] I kinda know about repo, but what do i do if i want to install someth that isn't in repo? [15:31] i am trying to install FreeOrion http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/files/FreeOrion [15:32] "why are you installing it from tar.gz ? [15:32] idk how else to inst it [15:35] Erquint: sorry my spliter for my dsl keeps on dropping what are you trying to install [15:36] you might want to find a .deb of the program [15:36] or look to see if it is in apt [15:37] to extract a tar file you use the command tar -xvf somefile.tar then look in the read me file for install instuctions [15:38] but you might find yourself in dependency hell [15:39] there is also a thing called CDE that is usfull [15:39] use-full * [15:43] i'm googling CDE... [15:47] ok guys I am about to snap my isp keeps dropping in and out I am watching my gateway and also wireshark no bad packets so far what could be causing this ? [15:48] gateway says cant connect then it does then it drops every 30 sec or so [15:48] Actually i am a learning programmer and planning to use Linux as a developer but atm i can't even use it as common user. So this IS frustrating. Sorry for moaning. Is there an integrated documentation in Ubuntu or is it ONLY on website? [15:49] And i don't mean "man" [15:49] Erquint: there are vtc cources free tutorials all over the place === bobweavertonight is now known as bobweaver [15:50] What is vtc? [15:51] Erquint: ourshare.tk <- look at the ubuntu section [15:51] http://www.ourshare.tk * [15:51] Thanks :) [15:52] it is a older cource that is for ubuntu training [15:52] still use full [15:52] Erquint, see this may will help you., :D [15:53] what is your area that you want to study ? [15:53] And, btw, when i was installing Ubuntu it asked me to choose an istallation size 5-30 Gb. So idk why but i've chosen 5Gb. How can it affect anything and can i change it latter? [15:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/714300/ [15:53] area of what? [15:53] Erquint: sure look at gparted for your harddrive [15:54] area = networking programing ect [15:54] prog, but right now i only want to learn basics of this OS to be used to operating it [15:55] cool [15:55] welcome to the wonderfull world of ubuntu and gnu/unix [15:55] what does affect installation size? [15:55] thanks. Glad to be here [15:55] I would say to learn the history first [15:56] there is a movie called revoltion os [15:56] you can find it on google youtube ect [15:56] Erquint: you should not be installing from source (tar.gz) unless the application is not in the repositories [15:56] You install applications by adding repositories [15:56] +1 bodhi_zazen [15:56] sudo apt-get update [15:56] sudo apt-get install foo [15:57] what application is it ? and see the links I gave you about using the repositories [15:57] bodhi_zazen: he is trying to install a game [15:57] what game ? [15:57] FreeOrion [15:58] http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/ [15:58] Erquint: open termianl (ctrl+alt+t) [15:58] so you are trying to tell me that every Linux soft IS already in repos? [15:58] ok [15:58] what is foo? [15:59] Erquint: no [15:59] but the trusted ones are [15:59] ubuntu uses something caalled bzr [15:59] or bazzar to upload things to something called launchpad [15:59] launch pad is what is maintained by ubuntu devs kinda :>) [15:59] It does not appear FreeOrion is in the repos, however there are specific instructions here [16:00] http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/Compile_In_Linux#Ubuntu_.28Maverick_and_Lucid.29 [16:00] Erquint: you have you terminal open ? [16:00] enter in [16:00] cd ~/Downloads [16:00] ls [16:00] about foo [16:00] gness@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install foo [16:00] Reading package lists... Done [16:00] Building dependency tree [16:00] Reading state information... Done [16:00] E: Unable to locate package foo [16:01] yes i have [16:01] so i am cd in downloads. what's next? [16:02] ^_^ [16:02] do you see the tar file ? [16:02] for the game ? [16:03] yep [16:03] hello ? [16:03] sudo tar ? [16:03] nope [16:03] what is file name ? [16:04] FreeOrion-0.3.15-Linux-i386.tar.gz [16:04] sweet [16:04] btw i'm x64 [16:05] sudo tar -xvf FreeOrion-0.3.15-Linux-i386.tar.gz [16:05] this should extract the tar file [16:05] and make a new folder [16:05] did [16:05] well that is not good :>P [16:06] what is not good? 0_o [16:06] this will not work then [16:06] that tar is for 32bit [16:06] thanks for telling us [16:06] but now you know how to extract a tar file [16:06] tar [16:07] that the file is for 32bit and you are using 64 bit [16:07] actually i've thought i should stick to "Archive Manager" ... [16:08] sure so what you wish [16:08] :>) [16:08] sooooo.. [16:09] Erquint, you may see this to install your .tar.qz packages, http://paste.ubuntu.com/714300/ [16:09] on win it usually just uses some kind of reverse compability for x86 files. Is it possible to achieve that on Linux? [16:10] You've already sent that link actually [16:10] ok so if you want to learn about using any gnu/linux os this is what I would do only me [16:10] first learn the history [16:11] watch revoltion os [16:11] bobweaver, you're right.. :) [16:11] 2nd learn the history behind ubuntu and how debian is connected [16:11] so ok. I'll google this vid "Revoltion OS" right now [16:12] after you learn the history of debian and how ubuntu is connected I would then start to learn about the interfaces that gnu/linux has o offer [16:12] kde unity lxde ect [16:12] find the one that you like the most [16:13] hmmm. [16:13] after that learn the difference between them [16:13] ie gnome uses gnome-terminal kde uses konsole [16:14] learn how to add and remove programs [16:14] using apt like bodhi_zazen said above4 [16:14] learn how to update and upgrade you system [16:15] what is sudo ? and how is it different form yum rvm su [16:15]