[00:37] <ubuntu__> I cant get my printer to print. I have booted from the Ubuntu CD, added the printer. It's model was recognized and I specified parallel port instead of HPLIP since it is connected to a parallel port. The Print Test Page command sends a job to the queue but nothing comes out.  In the queue the job is listed as 'processing'. Should I have specified the HPLIP instead of a parallel port?
[00:38] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: if it was recognized you shouldn't have needed to change anything AFAIK...
[00:39] <ubuntu__> ok. I'll re-add and accept the default for HPLIP.
[00:39] <nlsthzn> Then again it has been a long time since I heard of a printer connecting via a paralel port
[00:41] <ubuntu__> Now when I click Add there is no listing for my printer, just a request for a URI which I've no idea what that is.
[00:42] <nlsthzn> That is typically needed for networked printers if I am not mistaken...
[00:42] <ubuntu__> this is connected directly to my computer
[00:42] <nlsthzn> I was finding it strange that your printer would be detected via lpt... I don't think that is possible...
[00:43] <nlsthzn> maybe hold on for someone with a bit more savvy in these matters to come to your aid
[00:44] <ubuntu__> is there a forum area specifically for hardware recognition problems?
[00:45] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332
[00:51] <ubuntu__> where is the firewall in Ubuntu?
[00:52] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: easiest why is in terminal "sudo ufw enable" ... there is a man page for ufw too you can read... and there is also a graphical front-end for it (but the name escapes me now)
[00:53] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: Gufw
[00:53] <ubuntu__> I have no idea what you are talking about
[00:55] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: Ubuntu uses ufw (uncomplicated firewall) per default.
[00:55] <russ_> anyone know anything about playonlinux?
[00:55] <nlsthzn> you can enable it via terminal by using the command "sudo ufw enable" and entering your password
[00:55] <ubuntu__> ok, so it has a firewall.  What is a man page?
[00:56] <russ_> main page i think
[00:56] <russ_> website
[00:56] <ubuntu__> where is the terminal?
[00:56] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: in terminal you can type "man ufw" and it will display information on the command "ufw"
[00:56] <russ_> cntrl+alt+T
[00:57] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: you can do this for jusy about any command in linux to get more information on it ... man stands for manual if I am not mistaken...
[00:58] <russ_> oh sorry im pretty new to this OS myself didnt mean to give bad info
[00:59] <ubuntu__> russ, that was helpful.  I think i'm looking at the terminal now.
[00:59] <nlsthzn> russ_: no worries... I am very much a newby myself
[00:59] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: cool :) now in the terminal type "sudo ufw enable"
[01:00] <russ_> just actually got it installed erlier today and been "playing around" since.... never really used anything but window OS
[01:00] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: sudo is to run it as "root (administrator) and then ufw enable turns on ufw
[01:00] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: when entering your password nothing will appear to happen... just type it in and press enter
[01:01] <ubuntu__> no request for password
[01:01] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: strange... did you get any other message?
[01:02] <ubuntu__> says... firewall active and enabled on system startup.
[01:02] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: well mission accomplished then as far as the firewall is concerned :) ...
[01:02] <nlsthzn> ubuntu__: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:03] <ubuntu__> I think that does it for me for now.. thanks for your help, both of you.  I'm running 11.10. Just downloaded the CD iso today.
[01:03] <nlsthzn> Ah ok... cool, enjoy it
[01:04] <ubuntu__> good night
[01:04] <russ_> anyone play call of duty via "playonlinux"?
[01:05] <nlsthzn> russ_: no sorry... I have gotten some games to work though...
[01:16] <aviandroid> how do you register your nickname
[01:16] <aviandroid> do you have to do that for each ubuntu channel you enter
[01:17] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: you only have to regsiter with freenode once and it will be valid for all channels hosted by them
[01:19] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: so you would use /msg NickServ register <nick>
[01:19] <aviandroid> oh okay it said i needed to enter a channel
[01:20] <aviandroid>  Insufficient parameters for REGISTER.
[01:20] <aviandroid> Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email>
[01:20] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: sorry about that
[01:20] <aviandroid> no problem
[01:21] <aviandroid> appreciate the help
[01:21] <nlsthzn> np
[01:22] <aviandroid> so I enter REGISTER
[01:22] <aviandroid> then password and email without < > characters
[01:23] <nlsthzn> yes... drop the < and >
[01:23] <nlsthzn> /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com
[01:24] <Unit193> Note: Bar and beer are not good passwords
[01:24] <aviandroid> No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[01:24] <aviandroid> no luck got that
[01:25] <aviandroid> sorry for being such a n00b
[01:25] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: I can't remember struggling this much and I am still a noob :p
[01:25] <Unit193> And I just failed hard...
[01:25] <Unit193> sorry aviandroid
[01:25] <nlsthzn> you did start off with /msg Nickserv right
[01:25] <aviandroid> well you probably have more experience than you realize
[01:26] <aviandroid> no sorry
[01:26] <nlsthzn>  /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com
[01:26] <nlsthzn> ;)
[01:27] <Unit193> Just type /msg nickserv register thisismypass and@my.email
[01:28] <aviandroid> awesome thanks you guys
[01:28] <aviandroid> that was painful wasnt it
[01:28] <Unit193> This might help later/too http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[01:28] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: no worries all is well that ends well...
[01:29] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: for more fun with IRC you can use /msg NickServ help (and find more goodies)
[01:29] <aviandroid> useful link Unit193 much appreciated
[01:30] <aviandroid> awesome thank nlsthzn
[01:30] <aviandroid> *thanks
[01:30]  * nlsthzn gives Unit193 two thumbs up :D
[01:30] <Unit193> nlsthzn: You did all the wokrrk, congrats
[01:30] <aviandroid> and a pat on the back for the both of you
[01:33] <nlsthzn> Wait... this was work?!
[01:33] <nlsthzn> :p
[01:34] <aviandroid> do you guys find xchat to best the best gui based irc client for ubuntu
[01:34] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: I use Xchat... does what I need very well...
[01:35] <Unit193> I'm not that fond of it, but go with ^^
[01:36] <aviandroid> okay that is what i went with
[01:36]  * nlsthzn was waiting for Unit193 to say something like that :p
[01:36] <aviandroid> unit193 do you use something like irssi
[01:37] <Unit193> aviandroid: No, not something like it, I use irssi ;)
[01:37] <aviandroid> got it
[01:37] <aviandroid> maybe someday but not anytime soon for me obviously
[01:38] <Unit193> http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat
[01:38] <Unit193> Those help pages are pure awesome
[01:41] <aviandroid> definitely pure awesome
[01:42] <aviandroid> bookmarked
[01:49] <aviandroid> nlzthzn unit193 can you guys recommend any websites for ubuntu software reviews and download
[01:50] <aviandroid> also news too
[01:51] <Unit193> I like WebUpd8 for some news types
[01:52] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: pro tip... start typing a name and then hit tab for autocomplete (easier to get my name right :p)
[01:52] <nlsthzn> omgubuntu.co.uk
[01:53] <Unit193> ^^ Too fanboi for me though ;)
[01:53] <Unit193> nlsthzn: Take him to alt chan?
[01:54] <aviandroid> Unit193, nlsthzn my apologies
[01:54] <aviandroid> thanks for the tip
[01:54] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: no worries... now I can see you pinging me too
[01:55]  * nlsthzn is a fan and also a "boy"
[01:55] <Unit193> aviandroid: Why don't you join us on #ubuntu-beginners-team
[01:56] <aviandroid> oh okay so every time you use that function it pings you
[01:56] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: a great place to learn more about Ubuntu and to help out is ubuntuforums.org
[01:56] <aviandroid> what exactly is that Unit193
[01:56] <nlsthzn> yes, adding a name alerts the user
[01:57] <aviandroid> i will certainly check it out i do appreciate your patience
[01:57] <Unit193> That's the channel for offtopic talking :)
[01:57] <aviandroid> learning all kinds of stuff here
[01:59] <aviandroid> nlsthzn, i will check out those forums like you mentioned
[01:59] <nlsthzn> Sweet... hope to see you aroudn there then :)
[01:59] <aviandroid> Unit193, i will also check out that channel too
[02:00] <aviandroid> yeah for sure
[02:01] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: btw, you might want to add your nickserv password to Xchat to auto identify yourself...
[02:01] <nlsthzn> else you have to do it everytime you log in ...
[02:02] <nlsthzn>  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[02:02] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: ^^
[02:02] <aviandroid> nlsthzn, where is that located exactly in xchat
[02:03] <aviandroid> is it under settings
[02:03] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: if I was @ home I could tell you exactly... it is the same place you select which server to connect to...
[02:04] <aviandroid> got it
[02:04]  * Unit193 waits for him to identify
[02:04] <aviandroid> thanks i now know exactly where it is at
[02:05] <AScannerDarkly> ok, total newb question. I know that I shouldn't just go sudo-ing strange PPA's all willy nilly into my system, but I mean, how wary do I really need to be of non-approved packages, etc?
[02:05] <AScannerDarkly> It seems like blogs and many help pages recommend adding all these unapproved PPAs, and I've tried to avoid it, but some of the software is pretty interesting.
[02:06] <russ_> maybe someone can help me?  i installed ubuntu as dual boot with win 7 but the install never asked where i wanted to save.    i had my main c:\ drive with windows but i am not sure how to get to where i can see where this OS is installed, or maybe partition more of my drive to give me more space with ubuntu
[02:06] <nlsthzn> AScannerDarkly: I am not sure... how weary are you off loosing all your data or having all your information stolen?
[02:06] <AScannerDarkly> pretty wary.
[02:06] <Unit193> AScannerDarkly: You can try it in a VM too if you wish ;)
[02:06] <AScannerDarkly> Stick with strictly Ubuntu PPAs? Can I trust some of the others, like mediabuntu, etc
[02:07] <AScannerDarkly> And for that matter, how can I uninstall an app/PPA if I decide it was a bad idea to install?
[02:07] <nlsthzn> AScannerDarkly: I have added PPA's before... but there is always risk...
[02:07] <Unit193> As that ppa is listed in the help pages, should be fine
[02:07] <Unit193> !ppapurge
[02:07] <ubot2> Factoid 'ppapurge' not found
[02:08] <Unit193> !ppa-purge
[02:08] <ubot2> To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[02:08] <AScannerDarkly> hey, helpful as could be! Thanks!
[02:08] <nlsthzn> aviandroid: you can identify yourself now with your password to see if it works
[02:09] <AScannerDarkly> is ppa-purge apt-gettable?
[02:09] <AScannerDarkly> belay that.
[02:09] <AScannerDarkly> :)
[02:10] <nlsthzn> :)
[02:10] <AScannerDarkly> I have to say, apt-get is the best thing since sliced bread.
[02:11] <Unit193> ^^
[02:11] <AScannerDarkly> I've toyed with linux for years, always installing and removing. I'm proud to say I'm 100% window$ free now.
[02:11] <AScannerDarkly> that and now that I understand basic scripting somewhat....it's all so clear now.
[02:11] <aviandroid> that makes two of us AScannerDarkly
[02:11] <AScannerDarkly> freaking a....Stallman was a geniiiiiioous.
[02:12] <AScannerDarkly> anyhow, thanks for the tip. I installed a PPA I think I shouldn't have. This should take care of it. How do I remove the offending program though?
[02:12] <aviandroid> windows free and loving it
[02:12] <AScannerDarkly> I honestly have no idea how to remove a program that isn't in the Application manager.
[02:12] <AScannerDarkly> :|
[02:13] <aviandroid> AScannerDarkly, i am assuming through SoftwareCentre
[02:13] <AScannerDarkly> like, if I installed a tarball, made it, etc....
[02:13] <aviandroid> sorry that is over my head i will leave it to the pros from here
[02:13] <Unit193> AScannerDarkly: Should be a README with unstall ideas
[02:14] <AScannerDarkly> RTFM. You're likely right.
[02:14] <AScannerDarkly> I tend to pick brains when they are handy.
[02:14] <AScannerDarkly> but yes. I will. Ok, last newbie question, how do I get around in the man pages?
[02:14] <AScannerDarkly> kind of lost there.
[02:14] <Unit193> Needing a pro? Hope nlsthzn gets back then...
[02:15] <Unit193> man PACKAGE
[02:16] <Unit193> AScannerDarkly: Open a terminal and type   man apt-get   ?
[02:17] <AScannerDarkly> but leik, how do I page down and page up, I cannot figure out how to make the man pages scroll...I know I'm likely somewhat retarded.
[02:17] <AScannerDarkly> if it says, "1/65", how do I get to 2/65, etc?
[02:18]  * AScannerDarkly hears sound of people smacking foreheads in linux shame
[02:18] <Unit193> Down arrow and page down
[02:18] <AScannerDarkly> I tried that.
[02:19] <AScannerDarkly> maybe it's my keyboard?
[02:19] <AScannerDarkly> oh well. I'll check the man man.
[02:19] <AScannerDarkly> night all.
[02:20] <nlsthzn> Could have tried man man I guess :)
[02:22] <nlsthzn> Unit193: Your the only pro in here at the moment it seems ;)
[02:22] <Russ_> can i use NTFS with ubuntu?
[02:22] <Unit193> Seems it's not using less
[02:23] <Unit193> Russ_: Yep, it's called cifs
[02:23] <Russ_> or is it FAT32
[02:23] <Unit193> Woops, cancel that
[02:23] <Unit193> Russ_: What do you mean, as the partition FOR Ubuntu?
[02:24] <Russ_> trying to format a partition on my hard drive to use with ubuntu but i dont know how to with ubuntu so im doing in windows
[02:25] <Unit193> Just leave it as "free space", Ubuntu will use EXT4 for it (and some for swap)
[02:25] <Russ_> so leave unalocated?
[02:28] <Unit193> Yep
[02:28] <Russ_> when doing a dual boot with windows Ubuntu creats 2 partitions/.
[02:28] <Russ_> ?
[02:28] <Unit193> !partition
[02:28] <ubot2> For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap
[02:28] <Unit193> Yes it will
[02:29] <Russ_> ok just making sure thats what happened there, file system is still pretty foreign in ubunto
[02:30] <urlin2u> Russ_, do yuou have windows backed up?
[02:30] <urlin2u> you*
[02:30] <Russ_> no but i dont have anything important on the pc its a laptop for school for me to mess around with stuff
[02:31] <Russ_> like ubuntu
[02:31] <Russ_> ha ha
[02:31] <Russ_> i have windows OS on disk, if thats what you mean
[02:32] <urlin2u> Russ_, okay, I would be concerned if you know the limits of primary partitions on a single hd is 4 and if you realize that 3 primaries with a extended for the ext4, and a swap.
[02:33] <urlin2u> just to be safe here.
[02:33] <Russ_> so thats going to try and create 2 more primarys?  ext4 and swap?
[02:35] <Russ_> let me go back to ubuntu and ill be back in just a sec
[02:35] <urlin2u> Russ_, if you have room for 2 more partitions I see people with a primary for the ext4 and a extended for the swap when it is nice to have both in a extended. Personally i just make the partitions with gparted ahead of time, and use a cusr=tom install.
[02:35] <urlin2u> custom*
[02:36] <Russ_> i was only using one for windows, but the OEM had something partitioned on here an di just formatted it, Ubuntu used that one and made another
[02:38] <Russ_> swap is the dual boot program?  gore or something?
[02:38] <urlin2u> Russ_, swap is similiar to a paging file in windows it is used when the ram is heavily used.
[02:39] <Russ_> oh
[02:39] <Russ_> got 8 Gb so that shouldnt be needed
[02:39] <urlin2u> Russ_, if you want to hibernate you will.
[02:41] <Russ_> so you think i should delete allpartitions and cusom install windows and ubunto again and just make sure i make room for extra space this time?
[02:42] <Russ_> because when i first installed ubunto i only had 20G  set aside for it because i was just messing with it didnt know if i was going to like it but i do
[03:37] <russell_> ok im back
[03:37] <russell_> how do you check how much disk space ypu have with ubuntu?
[03:38] <russell_> i can see how much disk space i have with windows lol
[03:43] <bodhizazen> df -h
[03:43] <stlsaint> bodhizazen: pssttt...he left
[03:44] <bodhizazen> oh crap
[03:44] <stlsaint> lol yea
[03:45] <bodhizazen> looks like a hit and run
[03:45] <stlsaint> yep
[09:37] <Guest34887> Hi, I'm completely new to Linux, and would like to create a partition running Ubuntu (11.1, 64 bit) on a new windows 7 machine, I've downloaded Gparted and the linux disk image and mounted them to DVDs, how should I approach actually making the partitions(s?) required for teh linux installation?
[09:45] <Snicksie> you can just install your ubunut Guest34887 ... It will ask you if you want to install ubuntu besides win7, so you can choose between both operating systems on each startup. you dont need to create the partition first :)
[09:46] <Snicksie> just put in your ubunut livecd, choose 'install ubuntu' and follow the steps. at the partitioning step, just choose install beside windows
[09:47] <Snicksie> you can also install ubuntu when you're within windows, just download the wubi installer and start installing :)
[09:47] <Guest34887> Will the installer allow me to create a aprtition during the install process?  I'm currently running a 32-bit version of windows and am looking to install 64-bit linux on a partition so i can actually use my ram
[09:48] <Guest34887> it's a work amchine, mainly runnign Matlab, I'd probably ultimately be looking to wipe the windows aprtitionc ompeltely
[09:48] <Snicksie> it will be able to do that Guest34887 ;)
[09:48] <bioterror> dont do wubi
[09:49] <bioterror> you're just picking blood from your nose with it ;)
[09:50] <Snicksie> wubi is less preferable indeed
[09:50] <Snicksie> http://seogadget.co.uk/the-ubuntu-installation-guide/ >> start from "Completing your Ubuntu installation, step by step", there you see the partitioning step :)
[09:50] <Guest34887> thanks
[09:50] <Snicksie> its an old version of ubuntu though there, but the steps are quite the same
[09:51] <Guest34887> I'm sure it'll work out
[09:51] <Snicksie> if you've got any additional questions, just ask and we'll try to answer :)
[09:52] <Guest34887> main motivation for this move is that this brand new windows 7 machine with 4GB of ram can only see 2.9 of the ram cause of the 32 bit OS
[10:55] <nlsthzn> Any ideas why tab-auto complete wouldn't be working in my terminal (fresh install of 11.10)?
[11:02] <khader> what is the difference between pae and generic kernels ?
[11:22] <guest_fkasj> Hi, I've jsut installed Ubuntu 11.1, there doesn't seem to be an 'applications' folder?  I find this somewhat confusing, and the Dash isn't the most helpful thing in the world...any suggestions?
[11:30] <nlsthzn> guest_fkasj, at the bottom of the dash you will see icons, click the second one and then also click on the "filter options" to make it easier
[11:30] <nlsthzn> but the best way to get what you want is to open the dash and start typing the name of the application you want...
[11:31] <nlsthzn> Also, add your most used applications to the side-bar...
[11:31] <guest_fkasj> I will get round to that, I'm just surprised there's no applications folder in the home folder?
[11:36] <guest_fkasj> while I'm ehre, I've tried to launch dropbox and the whole program jsut freezes every tiem, how do I go about force quitting it?  I've tried right clicking and quitting on the dock but to no avail
[11:38] <nlsthzn> guest_fkasj, easy way.... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/freezeunfreeze-unity-app-killer/
[11:38] <nlsthzn> I always use system monitor to get the process id then use "sudo kill -9 <id number>" in terminal myself....
[11:40] <guest_fkasj> is tehre a good basic rundown of linux functions/terminal commands etc you could reccommend?  I know i could jsut google it, but tehre are tons out there and not much to tell them apart to teh untrained eye
[11:42] <nlsthzn> guest_fkasj, I am a bit of a newby myself and have picked up a few commands that I use over the years... most of the tutorials on-line will be giving you the same information...
[11:45] <guest_fkasj> fair enough, all I need to be able to do it some basic stuff, maybe enough to say I've got some experience of using linux if anyone asks
[14:40] <guest_ppx> Hi, I installed Ubuntu today, and I'm having some problems using the software centre.  Firstly, I can't seem to find where thigns end up after downloading and so can't see how to install.  Also, the proress window jsut has a bar saying 'updating cache, downloaded 0b of 7b and never makes any progress, anyone knwo what might be up?
[14:44] <stlsaint> guest_ppx: well after you install something it will usually go to your menus
[14:44] <stlsaint> as for the progress bar, maybe you need to check your sources listing
[14:45] <guest_ppx> sources listing is whatever the default is, was inoy trying to download the flash plugin! but it seems ot happen with most thigns i try.
[14:45] <guest_ppx> which menus does it appear in? I'm somewhat thrown by the lack of an applications folder, even with the dash home
[14:46] <guest_ppx> doesn't seem to be anywhere i can just see a folder with all my applications
[14:59] <geirha> guest_ppx: You can in dash
[15:00] <geirha> Before searching, choose "more applications", then click the arrow next to "installed applications".
[15:16] <wisevoyager> stupid is better than idiot.., :D
[15:20] <Erquint> Hello. I am newb. Installed Ubuntu for the first time a hour ago. How do i install shit from .tar.gz ? I wanned to try and install some game just to get used to installing things on Ubuntu. Downloaded tar.gz. There's an instruction in README to run Setup.sh. But if i run it nothing particular happens.
[15:24] <Erquint> Any one alive?
[15:24] <bodhi_zazen> Erquint: this is a "family channel", please watch your language
[15:24] <bodhi_zazen> You should  not be installing anything from tar.gz
[15:24] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[15:25] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:25] <bodhi_zazen> Also read this page:
[15:25] <bodhi_zazen> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_management_system
[15:26] <bodhi_zazen> It is written for Fedora, but the reasons not to install software outside of your package manager, apt with Ubuntu, are just as valid
[15:26] <bodhi_zazen> What are you trying to install ? and why are you installing it from tar.gz ?
[15:27] <Erquint> Ok. I am sorry for my lang. it will not happen again
[15:27] <Erquint> And thanks for advice
[15:27] <bodhi_zazen> np
[15:27] <bodhi_zazen> I understand you are frustrated, but slow down a bit and we can help
[15:29] <Erquint> I kinda know about repo, but what do i do if i want to install someth that isn't in repo?
[15:31] <Erquint> i am trying to install FreeOrion http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/files/FreeOrion
[15:32] <Erquint> "why are you installing it from tar.gz ?
[15:32] <Erquint> idk how else to inst it
[15:35] <bobweaver> Erquint:  sorry my spliter for my dsl keeps on dropping  what are you trying to install
[15:36] <bobweaver> you might want to find a .deb of the program
[15:36] <bobweaver> or look to see if it is in apt
[15:37] <bobweaver> to extract a tar file you use the command    tar -xvf somefile.tar   then look in the read me file for install instuctions
[15:38] <bobweaver> but you might find yourself in dependency hell
[15:39] <bobweaver> there is also a thing called CDE that is usfull
[15:39] <bobweaver> use-full *
[15:43] <Erquint> i'm googling CDE...
[15:47] <bobweavertonight> ok guys I am about to snap my isp keeps dropping in and out I am watching my gateway and also wireshark no bad packets so far what could be causing this ?
[15:48] <bobweavertonight> gateway says cant connect then it does then it drops every 30 sec or so
[15:48] <Erquint> Actually i am a learning programmer and planning to use Linux as a developer but atm i can't even use it as common user. So this IS frustrating. Sorry for moaning. Is there an integrated documentation in Ubuntu or is it ONLY on website?
[15:49] <Erquint> And i don't mean "man"
[15:49] <bobweavertonight> Erquint:  there are vtc cources free tutorials all over the place
[15:50] <Erquint> What is vtc?
[15:51] <bobweaver> Erquint:  ourshare.tk    <- look at the ubuntu section
[15:51] <bobweaver> http://www.ourshare.tk    *
[15:51] <Erquint> Thanks :)
[15:52] <bobweaver> it is a older cource that is for ubuntu training
[15:52] <bobweaver> still use full
[15:52] <wisevoyager> Erquint, see this may will help you., :D
[15:53] <bobweaver> what is your area that you want to study ?
[15:53] <Erquint> And, btw, when i was installing Ubuntu it asked me to choose an istallation size 5-30 Gb. So idk why but i've chosen 5Gb. How can it affect anything and can i change it latter?
[15:53] <wisevoyager> http://paste.ubuntu.com/714300/
[15:53] <Erquint> area of what?
[15:53] <bobweaver> Erquint:  sure look at gparted for your harddrive
[15:54] <bobweaver> area = networking  programing  ect
[15:54] <Erquint> prog, but right now i only want to learn basics of this OS to be used to operating it
[15:55] <bobweaver> cool
[15:55] <bobweaver> welcome to the wonderfull world of ubuntu and gnu/unix
[15:55] <Erquint> what does affect installation size?
[15:55] <Erquint> thanks. Glad to be here
[15:55] <bobweaver> I would say to learn the history first
[15:56] <bobweaver> there is a movie called revoltion os
[15:56] <bobweaver> you can find it on google youtube ect
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> Erquint: you should not be installing from source (tar.gz) unless the application is not in the repositories
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> You install applications by adding repositories
[15:56] <bobweaver> +1 bodhi_zazen
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> sudo apt-get update
[15:56] <bodhi_zazen> sudo apt-get install foo
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> what application is it ? and see the links I gave you about using the repositories
[15:57] <bobweaver> bodhi_zazen:  he is trying to install a game
[15:57] <bodhi_zazen> what game ?
[15:57] <Erquint> FreeOrion
[15:58] <bobweaver> http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeorion/
[15:58] <bobweaver> Erquint:  open termianl (ctrl+alt+t)
[15:58] <Erquint> so you are trying to tell me that every Linux soft IS already in repos?
[15:58] <Erquint> ok
[15:58] <Erquint> what is foo?
[15:59] <bobweaver> Erquint: no
[15:59] <bobweaver> but the trusted ones are
[15:59] <bobweaver> ubuntu uses something caalled bzr
[15:59] <bobweaver> or bazzar to upload things to something called launchpad
[15:59] <bobweaver> launch pad is what is maintained by ubuntu devs kinda :>)
[15:59] <bodhi_zazen> It does not appear FreeOrion is in the repos, however there are specific instructions here
[16:00] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/Compile_In_Linux#Ubuntu_.28Maverick_and_Lucid.29
[16:00] <bobweaver> Erquint:  you have you terminal open ?
[16:00] <bobweaver> enter in
[16:00] <bobweaver> cd ~/Downloads
[16:00] <bobweaver> ls
[16:00] <Erquint> about foo
[16:00] <Erquint> gness@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install foo
[16:00] <Erquint> Reading package lists... Done
[16:00] <Erquint> Building dependency tree
[16:00] <Erquint> Reading state information... Done
[16:00] <Erquint> E: Unable to locate package foo
[16:01] <Erquint> yes i have
[16:01] <Erquint> so i am cd in downloads. what's next?
[16:02] <Erquint> ^_^
[16:02] <bobweaver> do you see the tar file ?
[16:02] <bobweaver> for the game ?
[16:03] <Erquint> yep
[16:03] <bobweaver> hello ?
[16:03] <Erquint> sudo tar <filename> ?
[16:03] <bobweaver> nope
[16:03] <bobweaver> what is file name ?
[16:04] <Erquint> FreeOrion-0.3.15-Linux-i386.tar.gz
[16:04] <bobweaver> sweet
[16:04] <Erquint> btw i'm x64
[16:05] <bobweaver> sudo tar -xvf FreeOrion-0.3.15-Linux-i386.tar.gz
[16:05] <bobweaver> this should extract the tar file
[16:05] <bobweaver> and make a new folder
[16:05] <Erquint> did
[16:05] <bobweaver> well that is not good :>P
[16:06] <Erquint> what is not good? 0_o
[16:06] <bobweaver> this will not work then
[16:06] <bobweaver> that tar is for 32bit
[16:06] <bobweaver> thanks for telling us
[16:06] <bobweaver> but now you know how to extract a tar file
[16:06] <bobweaver> tar <options> <file>
[16:07] <bobweaver> that the file is for 32bit and you are using 64 bit
[16:07] <Erquint> actually i've thought i should stick to "Archive Manager" ...
[16:08] <bobweaver> sure so what you wish
[16:08] <bobweaver> :>)
[16:08] <Erquint> sooooo..
[16:09] <wisevoyager> Erquint, you may see this to install your .tar.qz packages, http://paste.ubuntu.com/714300/
[16:09] <Erquint> on win it usually just uses some kind of reverse compability for x86 files. Is it possible to achieve that on Linux?
[16:10] <Erquint> You've already sent that link actually
[16:10] <bobweaver> ok so if you want to learn about using any gnu/linux os this is what I would do only me
[16:10] <bobweaver> first learn the history
[16:11] <bobweaver> watch revoltion os
[16:11] <wisevoyager> bobweaver, you're right.. :)
[16:11] <bobweaver> 2nd learn the history behind ubuntu and how debian is connected
[16:11] <Erquint> so ok. I'll google this vid "Revoltion OS" right now
[16:12] <bobweaver> after you learn the history of debian and how ubuntu is connected I would then start to learn about the interfaces that gnu/linux has o offer
[16:12] <bobweaver> kde unity lxde ect
[16:12] <bobweaver> find the one that you like the most
[16:13] <Erquint> hmmm.
[16:13] <bobweaver> after that learn the difference between them
[16:13] <bobweaver> ie gnome uses gnome-terminal kde uses konsole
[16:14] <bobweaver> learn how to add and remove programs
[16:14] <bobweaver> using apt like bodhi_zazen said above4
[16:14] <bobweaver> learn how to update and upgrade you system
[16:15] <bobweaver> what is sudo ? and how is it different form yum rvm su
[16:15] <bobweaver> ect
[16:15] <bobweaver> what came first
[16:15] <bobweaver> ?
[16:16] <Erquint> so there is NO way to install x86 apps on x64 Ubuntu 0_o that IS strange. Isn't there an reverse compability????
[16:16] <bobweaver> after learning about the package managers I would then say to move on to networking
[16:16] <bobweaver> what is a mod ? what is firmware ? why ubuntu uses no propratary software ? how to install that stuff
[16:17] <bobweaver> what is the difference between a mod and a driver ?
[16:17] <bobweaver> then on to bash
[16:17] <bobweaver> what is bash ?
[16:17] <bobweaver> where did it come from ?
[16:18] <Erquint> *square-shaped_head*
[16:18] <Erquint> will do so
[16:18] <bobweaver> learn what these commands do    ls  cd   cat
[16:18] <bobweaver> ect
[16:19] <bobweaver> that is all covered on the vtc cource
[16:19] <bobweaver> there are a bunch of things out there to help you
[16:19] <bobweaver> here is a great place
[16:19] <bobweaver> there is also ubuntu docs
[16:19] <bobweaver> launchpad
[16:20] <bobweaver> ubuntu forums
[16:20] <bobweaver> http://www.googlubuntu.com
[16:20] <bobweaver> I also think that the "stickys" on ubuntu forums are great
[16:21] <Erquint> i'm gonna save this conversation to TXT
[16:21] <Erquint> can't remember all of this
[16:22] <bobweaver> there are going to be times that you are furstared and want to smash you computer
[16:22] <bobweaver> but you have to settle down
[16:22]  * bobweaver cant spell
[16:22] <bobweaver> lol
[16:24] <Erquint> i know, man, i know. And i am prepared ^_^
[16:24] <Erquint> Thanks god i haven't installed Gentoo
[16:26] <bobweaver> I would also learn about what ubuntu name means where it came from ,who mainains it, what are the festivals that go on ?, what are some of the local groups ie foss lug ect , how often does ubuntu release new  issues and  what is LTS? who stared ubuntu ? where to get ubuntu merch , where to get free ubuntu merch,
[16:27] <bobweaver> I think that you have a bunch of stuff there.
[16:27] <bobweaver> come back and ask any questions that is what this channel is all about (i think)
[16:28] <bobweaver> now here is the thing that is funny I have only been using linux since feb
[16:29] <bobweaver> so there is more people  with more exp around here
[16:33] <Erquint> Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'humanity to others'. Lol i know that for a long time. :)
[16:33] <bobweaver> cool
[16:34] <bobweaver> with you being so close to the city NY there is a bunch of groups
[16:34] <bobweaver> http://linux-user-group.meetup.com/cities/us/nj/newark/
[16:34] <bobweaver> http://www.meetup.com/NJLinux/messages/boards/
[16:35] <bodhi_zazen> Erquint: Ubuntu is an Ancient African word for "can't install Debian"
[16:35] <bobweaver> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/List_of_Hacker_Spaces
[16:36] <bobweaver> bodhi_zazen:  rotflmao
[16:36] <Erquint> Wait. I'm watching that historical vid  on YT and that man say Unix is properiatary (spell it wrong). Is this so? 0_o
[16:36] <wisevoyager> bodhi_zazen, this is a "family cahnnel" watch your language
[16:37] <Erquint> 0_o what idi he said? Lol. So you think i should install Debian?
[16:42]  * bobweavertonight is so mad at isp right now 
[16:42] <bobweavertonight> I have no phone so I cant call them
[16:42] <bobweavertonight> I think that the spliter for dsl is the trouble
[16:42] <bobweavertonight> either that or dos
[16:43] <bobweavertonight> wireshark shows nothing
[16:43] <bobweavertonight> so I 100% say that i am sorry if you are trying to talk to me and it gets dropped
[16:43] <bobweavertonight> or if you can even seee this
[16:45] <Erquint> np :)
[16:57] <bobweaver> all right that tears it I am going to walk to my isp and .....
[17:24] <Erquint> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
[17:24] <Erquint> How do i choose...............?
[17:37] <Erquint> I installed x32 libraries
[17:37] <Erquint> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[17:37] <Erquint> so i will now try to install it anyway
[17:37] <Erquint> just for satisfaction
[17:38] <bobweaver> back and happy
[17:41] <bobweaver> Erquint:  there is also http://distrowatch.com/
[17:42] <bobweaver> what do you mean  "" How do I choose" ?
[17:43] <Erquint> There's so much Linux distributions.
[17:43] <Erquint> *many
[17:43] <Erquint> What if one of those is better suited for me?
[17:43] <Erquint> But i can't try EVERY one of them
[17:44] <bobweaver> there is truth to that statement ?
[17:45] <Erquint> That's a question?
[17:50] <bobweaver> Erquint:  You know what Virtual box is ?
[17:50] <Erquint> VM?
[17:50] <bobweaver> yes there is also one that is made by sun
[17:50] <bobweaver> or is it oracle
[17:51] <bobweaver> that is free
[17:51] <bobweaver> and fun to use
[17:51] <Erquint> Java?
[17:51] <Erquint> xD
[17:51] <bobweaver> https://www.virtualbox.org/
[17:51] <Erquint> actually i was using it on win
[17:52] <bobweaver> cool
[17:52] <Erquint> but it isn't very efficient  for perfomance
[17:52] <bobweaver> what is ram ?
[17:52] <Erquint> 4
[17:52] <bobweaver> op0en terminal and type in free -m
[17:52] <bobweaver> or free --help
[17:53] <bobweaver> cool
[17:53] <bobweaver> lucky :>p
[17:53] <Erquint> wait a sec. Better tell me what is it when Terminal has this little caption on the bottom "-More-(2%)" ??
[17:54] <bobweaver> I am sorry but I  am more of a kde guy :>p
[17:54] <bobweaver> screenshot ?
[17:54] <Erquint> how to screenshot Ubuntu?
[17:54] <Erquint> :D
[17:55] <bobweaver> what is it in unity take screenshot ??
[17:56] <bobweaver> enter this into terminal 'import -window root ~/Desktop/`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`.png'
[17:56] <bobweaver> you will find it under you desktop :>)
[17:56] <Erquint> oh lol, i figured that i just need to press Print Screen button on my keyboard
[17:57] <Erquint> but how can i show it to you?
[17:57] <bobweaver> imageshack
[17:59] <Erquint> sec
[18:00] <Erquint> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/screenshotat20111020215.png
[18:01] <bobweaver> looks like you are reading something and it is only showing 2% of the doc
[18:02] <bobweaver> I could be wrong
[18:02] <Erquint> why?
[18:02] <Erquint> how do i continue?
[18:02] <bobweaver> press space bar
[18:02] <bobweaver> or down
[18:02] <Erquint> oh sweet ***
[18:03] <Erquint> i tried PgDn, Down, Enter
[18:03] <Erquint> But it comes out that only Spacebar works
[18:03] <Erquint> thanks
[18:03] <russell_> is there a terminal command to check disk space available?
[18:05] <bobweaver> df -h
[18:05] <russell_> thanks
[18:05] <bobweaver> np
[18:06] <russell_> not doing anything
[18:06] <russell_> any / or ./?
[18:06] <bobweaver>  df -h
[18:06] <bobweaver> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[18:06] <bobweaver> /dev/sda10             62G   24G   35G  41% /
[18:06] <bobweaver> udev                  866M  4.0K  866M   1% /dev
[18:06] <bobweaver> tmpfs                 351M  840K  350M   1% /run
[18:06] <bobweaver> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[18:06] <bobweaver> none                  877M  1.9M  875M   1% /run/shm
[18:08] <Guest81995> i think that instance of terminal was running Xchat thats why wouldnt pop up
[18:09] <Guest81995> but i got it thanks
[18:10] <Guest81995> ubuntu 11.10, does it have a version name?
[18:11] <Guest81995> like Oneiric, Natty, Maverick?  something im trying to install is asking
[18:11] <bioterror> lsb_release -cd
[18:11] <bioterror> if I remember right
[18:11] <bobweaver> lsb_release -a
[18:11] <bobweaver> for all
[18:12] <Guest81995> ok cool thanks again guys
[18:13] <Erquint> how do i switch keyboard layouts with keyboard shortcuts?
[18:20] <Erquint> something stupid is going on with my Internet Connection
[18:21] <bobweaver> Erquint:  do you know how to use traceroute ?
[18:21] <Erquint> I configured it using pppoeconf, but it was kinda slow and now it's going down to zero
[18:22] <Erquint> hmm, i'll try
[18:23] <Erquint> no, can't remember the command
[18:23] <bobweaver> traceroute google.com
[18:23] <Erquint> but traceroute isn't gonna fix anything anyway...
[18:23] <bobweaver> no you are right
[18:24] <bobweaver> but it helps in looking at the hops
[18:24] <Erquint> The program 'traceroute' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:24] <Erquint> sudo apt-get install traceroute
[18:24] <Erquint> lololol
[18:24] <bobweaver> Like I said I am no expert. only been doing this for a little bit :>)
[18:25] <bobweaver> there is also tools like angry ipscanner if you are looking for live hosts
[18:25] <Erquint> but you're already very good with it
[18:26] <Erquint> wanna know the first thing i did after installing ubuntu? xD
[18:26] <bobweaver> thanks but to tell you the truth it is and always will be the community that helped me learn all credit goes to the community there are even people in this chat that I learned so much from
[18:29] <Erquint> what was the general hub of those people who helped you so much?
[18:30] <bobweaver> general hub  ?
[18:30] <bobweaver> ]like what people ?
[18:30] <bobweaver> too many to list
[18:32] <Erquint> by saying "hub" i mean some forum/chat/website
[18:33] <bobweaver> Erquint:  to tell you the truth I am super n()()b there are some real smart people around you :>)
[18:34] <russell_> <-- not one of them
[18:34] <Erquint> :D
[18:35] <bobweaver> Erquint:  have you signed up for the mailing list ?
[18:35] <Erquint> nope. What mailing list?
[18:35] <russell_> everything i have done with this OS i have had to ask in this chat about
[18:35] <bobweaver> cprofitt:  maybe you can step in here :>)
[18:36] <bobweaver> Erquint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[18:38] <bobweaver> Erquint: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners
[18:39] <Erquint> Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list.
[18:40] <bobweaver> well become one
[18:41] <Erquint> maybe tomorrow. I fell like headache today from all the stuff
[18:41] <Erquint> *feel
[18:41] <Erquint> can you tell me how do i execute .sh file from terminal
[18:41] <Erquint> ?
[18:42] <bobweaver> sure \
[18:42] <bobweaver> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[18:42] <bobweaver> !permissions
[18:43] <ubot2> An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[18:43] <bobweaver> !chmod >Erquint
[18:43] <ubot2> Erquint, please see my private message
[18:44] <Erquint> but what file premissions would do to my question?
[18:45] <Erquint> Either you don't understand my question or i am sleeping on  my feet
[18:46] <bobweaver> what is filename.sh ?
[18:46] <bobweaver> can it execute ?
[18:47] <Erquint> there is a file setup.sh, wich i can run as a file from (kinda) explorer window. But i just want to run it from Terminal
[18:48] <bobweaver> if so cd into the dir and ./nameoffile.sh
[18:48] <Erquint> how do i open files from terminal?
[18:48] <Erquint> oh
[18:48] <Erquint> ./
[18:48] <Erquint> i see
[18:48] <bobweaver> ./ <- is if you are in the dir that the file is in
[18:49] <Erquint> yeah i'm in
[18:49] <Erquint> but
[18:49] <bobweaver> you can move to /usr/bin/ to make launch easy
[18:49] <Erquint> Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list.
[18:49] <bobweaver> or almost any bin
[18:49] <bobweaver> dir
[18:49] <Erquint> sry
[18:49] <Erquint> wrong copy/paste
[18:50] <Erquint> cp: writing `/home/gness/.setup7155': No space left on device
[18:50] <Erquint> what the hack 0_o
[18:50] <Erquint> i've 19 Gb
[18:50] <bobweaver> let us see a df -h
[18:50] <bobweaver> paste.ubuntu.com
[18:50] <bobweaver> is it full ?
[18:51] <bobweaver> fidisk -l   <- I think for patitions ?
[18:51] <bobweaver> fdisk -l
[18:51] <Erquint> sec
[18:51] <bobweaver> sorry
[18:52] <Erquint> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[18:52] <Erquint> /dev/loop0            4.6G  4.4G     0 100% /
[18:52] <Erquint> udev                  2.0G  4.0K  2.0G   1% /dev
[18:52] <Erquint> tmpfs                 793M  920K  792M   1% /run
[18:52] <Erquint> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[18:52] <Erquint> none                  2.0G  2.1M  2.0G   1% /run/shm
[18:52] <Erquint> /dev/sda1             150G  135G   15G  91% /host
[18:53] <Erquint> I am confused about this "Filesystem" thing. I mean i've alot more space on my HD. But this is kinda limited
[18:53] <Erquint> Can't it use my HD fully?
[18:54] <bobweaver> /dev/sda1             150G  135G   15G  91%
[18:54] <bobweaver> what is on other partitions ?
[18:55] <Erquint> fdisk -l kinda doesn't do anything
[18:55] <bobweaver> !fdisk
[18:55] <ubot2> Factoid 'fdisk' not found
[18:55] <bobweaver> ahh
[18:56] <bioterror> !pastebin | Erquint
[18:56] <ubot2> Erquint: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:57] <Erquint> ok
[18:58] <bobweaver> !sudo >Erquint
[18:58] <ubot2> Erquint, please see my private message
[19:00] <Erquint> http://paste.ubuntu.com/714479/
[19:02] <bobweaver> !ext4 >Erquint
[19:02] <ubot2> Factoid 'ext4' not found
[19:02] <bobweaver> ahh
[19:02] <Erquint> ?
[19:03] <bobweaver> !partitions >Erquint
[19:03] <ubot2> Erquint, please see my private message
[19:03] <bobweaver> !commands >bobweaver
[19:03] <ubot2> bobweaver, please see my private message
[19:03] <Erquint> uhm
[19:04] <bobweaver> !botcommands >bobweaver
[19:04] <ubot2> Factoid 'botcommands' not found
[19:04] <bobweaver> !ubot2 >bobweaver
[19:04] <ubot2> Factoid 'ubot2' not found
[19:04] <Erquint> i kinda not intended to partition my drives, cause it will kill other data on it. Am i right?
[19:04] <bobweaver> ahh
[19:04] <Erquint> or am i wrong?
[19:04] <bobweaver> yes it will
[19:04] <Erquint> great xD
[19:04] <bobweaver> back up back up back up
[19:05] <bobweaver> !debian_live
[19:05] <ubot2> Factoid 'debian_live' not found
[19:05] <bobweaver> ahh
[19:05] <Erquint> where the hell will i back 160 Gb up to?
[19:05] <bobweaver> Erquint:  lang please
[19:05] <bobweaver> family channel
[19:05] <bobweaver> bodhi_zazen:  told you once
[19:05] <Erquint> ah. It isn't swearing anyway...
[19:06] <Erquint> every child know where he will go if he is behaving bad.
[19:08] <Erquint> Really. When did THIS word became bad?
[19:08] <Erquint> It's Christian after all
[19:09] <bioterror> where in the heaven! ;)
[19:09] <Erquint> xDD
[19:10] <bioterror> but yeah, let's keep religions out of this
[19:10] <Erquint> as you wish
[19:10] <Erquint> First things first.
[19:11] <Erquint> I've installed Ubuntu using Windows Installer
[19:11] <Erquint> It asked me for an installation size
[19:11] <Erquint> 5-30 Gb
[19:12] <Erquint> As i know Linux is designed to be small and fast
[19:12] <Erquint> And thus i chose 5 Gb
[19:12] <Erquint> So then it installed
[19:13] <bioterror> nothing much to be done with 5GB
[19:13] <Erquint> But i am curious. Did it defragment and then formated a part of empty space on my HD to install to?
[19:14] <bioterror> I have no idea what WUBI does
[19:14] <Erquint> And the file system is FAT16 ????????
[19:16] <Erquint> srsly?
[19:18] <bioterror> :D
[19:18] <Erquint> ok. I've g2g. Thank you for all the help. Gonna be back tomorrow (maybe not)
[19:19] <Erquint> *you all
[19:20] <bobweaver> !conduct | bobweaver
[19:20] <ubot2> bobweaver, please see my private message
[19:50] <bobweaver> !ext4 is File systems are one of the things any newcomer to linux must become acquainted with. In the world of Microsoft you never really have to worry about it, the default being NTFS. Linux however, being built on a world of of open source and differing opinions, is not limited in this way and so the user should have an understanding of what a file system is, and how it affects the computer. Please see  https://help.ubuntu.
[19:50] <bobweaver> com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[19:51] <bobweaver> !fdisk
[19:51] <ubot2> Factoid 'fdisk' not found
[19:53] <bobweaver> !fdisk fdisk is a disk partition manipulation program, which allows you to create, destroy, resize, move and copy partitions on a hard drive using a menu-driven interface. It is useful for organising the disk space on a new drive, reorganising an old drive, creating space for new operating systems,  Please See http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/fdisk.8.html
[19:54] <bobweaver> !version
[19:54] <ubot2> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »
[19:55] <Unit193> !msgthebot > bobweaver
[19:55] <ubot2> bobweaver, please see my private message
[19:55] <bobweaver> np thanks :>)
[19:56] <Unit193> Thanks
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> !botabuse
[21:15] <ubot2> Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".