[11:48] an ETA on PPAs being updated for 12.04? [11:49] gnomefreak, i'll do that when more people are running precise [11:49] it's fairly low priority atm ;) [11:49] chrisccoulson: ok [11:49] i figured as much [11:49] im not in a rush [11:49] i'm not even running it yet, and probably won't be for another month :) [11:50] nothing new other than package versions will happen for a while [11:51] i upgraded on Mohnday and so far no issues :) [11:52] heh, i need my laptop to carry on working for UDS and mozcamp :) [11:52] so i'll upgrade after those [11:59] what is google +You? [12:00] it doesnt say much of anything useful on its sign up page [12:01] https://plus.google.com/u/0/up/?continue=https://plus.google.com/u/0/?tab%3DmX&type=st [12:03] ah nevermind it looks like it is "facebook" for google [12:28] firefox trunk keeps opening in offline mode since todays update [12:31] * gnomefreak goes looking for issue [12:32] gnomefreak, do you use network manager? [12:33] its there but i leave it alone and normally it leaves me alone [12:33] i guess i am using it since it is in top right of screen [12:34] chromeium works fine [12:35] it will be because of the fix to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627672 (online detection should work properly again) [12:35] Mozilla bug 627672 in Networking "XPCOM component (libdbusservice.so) is not registered although it should be" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [12:35] chrisccoulson: thanks === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [20:42] FernandoMiguel, i'll hopefully have the chromium PPA's going again later, or tomorrow ;) [20:42] i'm just testing a build now [20:42] what a nightmare though, i've already got too much to do ;) [20:43] chrisccoulson: cool [20:43] chrisccoulson: bjn is willing to help [20:43] bjn? [20:44] invited [20:47] (20-10-2011 21:47:48) bjsnider: source package is too big for my connection [20:48] bjsnider: meet chrisccoulson [20:48] chrisccoulson: meet bjsnider [20:48] :) [20:48] i know who he is [20:48] knome, meet knome [20:48] oh, wait! [20:48] hi! [20:48] when are we gonna start using DELTA packages? [20:48] no idea ;) [20:49] after what i went through last night i don't think anyone can do the work except fta [20:49] i hate our packaging system [20:49] and he's determined not to come back [20:49] yeah, i know. that's why it's down to me ;) [20:49] debian/rules is about 10k lines long [20:49] unfortunately, he left at the worst possible time (end of the cycle, and just before i was due to go on vacation for 2 weeks) [20:50] i'm trying to get everything going again before i go to uds [20:50] i am considering begging shuttleworth to bring him back [20:50] ahahahhahahahahaah [20:50] one person cannot do chromium by themselves [20:50] * FernandoMiguel one of those moments I enjoy being on IRC [20:50] sure can [20:50] fta did it [20:50] bjsnider, why not? [20:50] since day one [20:50] it's the size of an o/s [20:51] cause it IS an OS [20:51] well, i do firefox and thunderbird pretty much by myself [20:51] LOL [20:51] it needs a dedicated team like the kernel [20:51] and they aren't really any smaller [20:51] what's the source package size? [20:51] pretty big [20:52] you're going to do chromium _and_ firefox _and_ thunderbird by yourself? [20:52] woot [20:52] HERO [20:52] impossible [20:52] well, i'll probably have to ;) [20:52] it's not impossible [20:53] nobody else does.... [20:53] it just means i won't have as much time for the fun stuff (the stuff i care about) ;) [20:53] i don't care about firefox anymore, but i have a considerable stake in chromium [20:53] meh [20:53] I'm using google package side by side [20:53] works fine [20:53] and i can help, except that i don't think i have enough internet speed to upload those source packages every day [20:54] fta did though, so he tells me [20:54] no [20:54] he didn't [20:54] he set up PPAs for it [20:54] he told me that bandwidth wasn't a problem because he didn't upload from home [20:55] i don't upload things from home [20:55] i do it from our datacenter ;) [20:55] he told me that too [20:55] eheh [20:55] chrisccoulson, i have worked with his bot scripts [20:56] but the thing is chromium has the most complex build scripts i've seen [20:56] and there isn't a close second [20:59] aha [21:00] FernandoMiguel, the source contains all of the o/s/ code, and all of the cross-platform code [21:05] bbl [21:07] m_conley, is there any way to programmatically find out if a mail in a folder is considered new in tb? [21:08] (ie, it's displayed in the UI with a little star next to it) [21:08] there should be, hang on... [21:08] chrisccoulson: the little star means unread, not necessarily new [21:09] chrisccoulson: if we're talking about the same little star [21:09] m_conley, ah, there are 2 stars ;) [21:09] chrisccoulson: which, in Ubuntu, is actually a small circle [21:09] m_conley, yeah, it's not that one [21:09] chrisccoulson: which other star are you referring to? There's the "starred mail", .... [21:09] a tiny star appears to the left-hand side of the subject if the message is new [21:11] chrisccoulson: ah, so you're right - yes - I know what you're talking about now [21:11] m_conley, yeah, this one - http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/new-message-star.png [21:11] the context being that thunderbird has a different concept of a new message compared to the messaging menu and the launcher [21:12] (ie, the "new" flag is removed from a message if you navigate away from a folder without reading any messages, but we don't cancel the count in the indicator unless you actually read one message) [21:12] so there's an inconsistency there [21:14] chrisccoulson: hm - let's go into #maildev and see if bienvenu knows. Once again, you've navigated me into unfamiliar territory. [21:14] heh, sorry :) [21:14] chrisccoulson: no worries. :) [21:30] i hate powerpc === FernandoMiguel is now known as FernandoM_androi [23:36] hey nigelb [23:37] hm so there's no way to cancel a ppa build is there? [23:37] my first package upload is going to fail, i forgot that i hacked up my pbuilder environment [23:41] rhelmer: heya [23:41] has it started building? [23:42] nigelb: no it's queued [23:42] pretty low priority so it's got a while to go [23:42] https://launchpad.net/~robert-roberthelmer/+archive/socorro/+builds?build_state=pending [23:42] this one specifically https://launchpad.net/~robert-roberthelmer/+archive/socorro/+build/2866759 [23:43] Let me ask in #launchpad [23:43] i hacked up my pbuilder env to accept the java license (and also add the repo that sun java is in) so pretty sure it'll fail [23:43] nigelb: cool thanks! i saw an open issue about it being worked on, so maybe just not impl yet [23:45] ah probably not [23:45] but folks in #launchpad can probably cancel it for you [23:49] if you're like me, you'll end up having builds cancelled for you ;) [23:50] (like my powerpc firefox build which keeps hanging) [23:50] heh [23:50] it even got scored right down - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/8.0~b4+build1-0ubuntu1/+build/2865780 [23:51] i've never seen a build score of -10000 before ;) === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [23:58] wow, 1 week until i fly to orlando :)