[11:48] <gnomefreak> an ETA on PPAs being updated for 12.04?
[11:49] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, i'll do that when more people are running precise
[11:49] <chrisccoulson> it's fairly low priority atm ;)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: ok
[11:49] <gnomefreak> i figured as much
[11:49] <gnomefreak> im not in a rush
[11:49] <chrisccoulson> i'm not even running it yet, and probably won't be for another month :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> nothing new other than package versions will happen for a while
[11:51] <gnomefreak> i upgraded on Mohnday and so far no issues :)
[11:52] <chrisccoulson> heh, i need my laptop to carry on working for UDS and mozcamp :)
[11:52] <chrisccoulson> so i'll upgrade after those
[11:59] <gnomefreak> what is google +You?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> it doesnt say much of anything useful on its sign up page
[12:01] <gnomefreak> https://plus.google.com/u/0/up/?continue=https://plus.google.com/u/0/?tab%3DmX&type=st
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ah nevermind it looks like it is "facebook" for google
[12:28] <gnomefreak> firefox trunk keeps opening in offline mode since todays update
[12:31]  * gnomefreak goes looking for issue
[12:32] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, do you use network manager?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> its there but i leave it alone and normally it leaves me alone
[12:33] <gnomefreak> i guess i am using it since it is in top right of screen
[12:34] <gnomefreak> chromeium works fine
[12:35] <chrisccoulson> it will be because of the fix to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627672 (online detection should work properly again)
[12:35] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 627672 in Networking "XPCOM component (libdbusservice.so) is not registered although it should be" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[12:35] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: thanks
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> FernandoMiguel, i'll hopefully have the chromium PPA's going again later, or tomorrow ;)
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> i'm just testing a build now
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> what a nightmare though, i've already got too much to do ;)
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> chrisccoulson: cool
[20:43] <FernandoMiguel> chrisccoulson: bjn is willing to help
[20:43] <chrisccoulson> bjn?
[20:44] <FernandoMiguel> invited
[20:47] <FernandoMiguel> (20-10-2011 21:47:48) bjsnider: source package is too big for my connection
[20:48] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: meet chrisccoulson
[20:48] <FernandoMiguel> chrisccoulson: meet bjsnider
[20:48] <FernandoMiguel> :)
[20:48] <bjsnider> i know who he is
[20:48] <knome> knome, meet knome
[20:48] <knome> oh, wait!
[20:48] <chrisccoulson> hi!
[20:48] <FernandoMiguel> when are we gonna start using DELTA packages?
[20:48] <chrisccoulson> no idea ;)
[20:49] <bjsnider> after what i went through last night i don't think anyone can do the work except fta
[20:49] <chrisccoulson> i hate our packaging system
[20:49] <bjsnider> and he's determined not to come back
[20:49] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i know. that's why it's down to me ;)
[20:49] <bjsnider> debian/rules is about 10k lines long
[20:49] <chrisccoulson> unfortunately, he left at the worst possible time (end of the cycle, and just before i was due to go on vacation for 2 weeks)
[20:50] <chrisccoulson> i'm trying to get everything going again before i go to uds
[20:50] <bjsnider> i am considering begging shuttleworth to bring him back
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> ahahahhahahahahaah
[20:50] <bjsnider> one person cannot do chromium by themselves
[20:50]  * FernandoMiguel one of those moments I enjoy being on IRC
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> sure can
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> fta did it
[20:50] <chrisccoulson> bjsnider, why not?
[20:50] <FernandoMiguel> since day one
[20:50] <bjsnider> it's the size of an o/s
[20:51] <FernandoMiguel> cause it IS an OS
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> well, i do firefox and thunderbird pretty much by myself
[20:51] <FernandoMiguel> LOL
[20:51] <bjsnider> it needs a dedicated team like the kernel
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> and they aren't really any smaller
[20:51] <bjsnider> what's the source package size?
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> pretty big
[20:52] <bjsnider> you're going to do chromium _and_ firefox _and_ thunderbird by yourself?
[20:52] <FernandoMiguel> woot
[20:52] <FernandoMiguel> HERO
[20:52] <bjsnider> impossible
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> well, i'll probably have to ;)
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> it's not impossible
[20:53] <FernandoMiguel> nobody else does....
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> it just means i won't have as much time for the fun stuff (the stuff i care about) ;)
[20:53] <bjsnider> i don't care about firefox anymore, but i have a considerable stake in chromium
[20:53] <FernandoMiguel> meh
[20:53] <FernandoMiguel> I'm using google package  side by side
[20:53] <FernandoMiguel> works fine
[20:53] <bjsnider> and i can help, except that i don't think i have enough internet speed to upload those source packages every day
[20:54] <bjsnider> fta did though, so he tells me
[20:54] <FernandoMiguel> no
[20:54] <FernandoMiguel> he didn't
[20:54] <FernandoMiguel> he set up PPAs for it
[20:54] <bjsnider> he told me that bandwidth wasn't a problem because he didn't upload from home
[20:55] <chrisccoulson> i don't upload things from home
[20:55] <chrisccoulson> i do it from our datacenter ;)
[20:55] <bjsnider> he told me that too
[20:55] <FernandoMiguel> eheh
[20:55] <bjsnider> chrisccoulson, i have worked with his bot scripts
[20:56] <bjsnider> but the thing is chromium has the most complex build scripts i've seen
[20:56] <bjsnider> and there isn't a close second
[20:59] <FernandoMiguel> aha
[21:00] <bjsnider> FernandoMiguel, the source contains all of the o/s/ code, and all of the cross-platform code
[21:05] <FernandoMiguel> bbl
[21:07] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, is there any way to programmatically find out if a mail in a folder is considered new in tb?
[21:08] <chrisccoulson> (ie, it's displayed in the UI with a little star next to it)
[21:08] <m_conley> there should be, hang on...
[21:08] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: the little star means unread, not necessarily new
[21:09] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: if we're talking about the same little star
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, ah, there are 2 stars ;)
[21:09] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: which, in Ubuntu, is actually a small circle
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, it's not that one
[21:09] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: which other star are you referring to?  There's the "starred mail", ....
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> a tiny star appears to the left-hand side of the subject if the message is new
[21:11] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ah, so you're right - yes - I know what you're talking about now
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, this one - http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/new-message-star.png
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> the context being that thunderbird has a different concept of a new message compared to the messaging menu and the launcher
[21:12] <chrisccoulson> (ie, the "new" flag is removed from a message if you navigate away from a folder without reading any messages, but we don't cancel the count in the indicator unless you actually read one message)
[21:12] <chrisccoulson> so there's an inconsistency there
[21:14] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hm - let's go into #maildev and see if bienvenu knows.  Once again, you've navigated me into unfamiliar territory.
[21:14] <chrisccoulson> heh, sorry :)
[21:14] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: no worries. :)
[21:30] <chrisccoulson> i hate powerpc
[23:36] <rhelmer> hey nigelb
[23:37] <rhelmer> hm so there's no way to cancel a ppa build is there?
[23:37] <rhelmer> my first package upload is going to fail, i forgot that i hacked up my pbuilder environment
[23:41] <nigelb> rhelmer: heya
[23:41] <nigelb> has it started building?
[23:42] <rhelmer> nigelb: no it's queued
[23:42] <rhelmer> pretty low priority so it's got a while to go
[23:42] <rhelmer> https://launchpad.net/~robert-roberthelmer/+archive/socorro/+builds?build_state=pending
[23:42] <rhelmer> this one specifically https://launchpad.net/~robert-roberthelmer/+archive/socorro/+build/2866759
[23:43] <nigelb> Let me ask in #launchpad
[23:43] <rhelmer> i hacked up my pbuilder env to accept the java license (and also add the repo that sun java is in) so pretty sure it'll fail
[23:43] <rhelmer> nigelb: cool thanks! i saw an open issue about it being worked on, so maybe just not impl yet
[23:45] <nigelb> ah probably not
[23:45] <nigelb> but folks in #launchpad can probably cancel it for you
[23:49] <chrisccoulson> if you're like me, you'll end up having builds cancelled for you ;)
[23:50] <chrisccoulson> (like my powerpc firefox build which keeps hanging)
[23:50] <rhelmer> heh
[23:50] <chrisccoulson> it even got scored right down - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/8.0~b4+build1-0ubuntu1/+build/2865780
[23:51] <chrisccoulson> i've never seen a build score of -10000 before ;)
[23:58] <chrisccoulson> wow, 1 week until i fly to orlando :)