[00:08] <nhaines> Darkwing: pong
[00:10] <Darkwing> nhaines: When are you going to start getting the talks for UbuCon.
[00:10] <nhaines> I'm working on some plans still, but hope to start promoting by Halloween weekend at the latest.
[00:11] <nhaines> I need to find out what the schedule is going to look like from the SCaLE staff, though.
[00:11] <Darkwing> nhaines: I'll get that for you. I'm having another SCALE meeting with Ilan in a couple hours.
[00:12] <nhaines> Darkwing: if it comes up, let him know that by November 1st I hope to start promoting for Ubucon.
[00:12] <Darkwing> nhaines: Aye, I'll let them know.
[00:42] <bkerensa> :(
[00:42] <bkerensa> Boinc seems to not work on 11.10
[01:18] <pleia2> woo sf ubuntu hour \o/
[01:18] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6261940625/
[01:18] <pleia2> oneiric on oneiric tablet ;)
[01:19] <broder> is that a Plastic Pangolin sitting next to the tablet? :-P
[01:20] <pleia2> yep!
[01:23] <nhaines> pleia2: you should have answered "precisely!"
[01:25] <pleia2> haha, next time
[01:34] <broder> i gotta say, in spite of using it for the better part of a month, i still can't tell whether or not i think unity's new alt-tab switcher is too smart for its own good
[02:10] <MarkDude> http://usb.brando.com/usb-big-mouse_p02543c037d15.html
[02:10] <MarkDude> Hella big usb mouse
[02:11] <akk> I think I'd need sunglasses with something like that on my desk.
[02:11] <akk> Not to mention using 2 hands to move it.
[02:12]  * MarkDude wants to use it for Linux display
[02:12] <MarkDude> And say some crap about how MS will require people to use a mouse like this for Win 8
[02:13] <MarkDude> Part of the Metro interface
[02:14] <akk> heh
[02:31] <akk> Where is battery info these days? used to be /proc/acpi/battery or /sys/class/power_supply/battery but it seems to have moved (those don't exist any more).
[02:33] <akk> Can't figure out how to google for it because all the google hits show those two old locations.
[02:33] <broder> i don't know where to find the info specifically, but upower is responsible for aggregating power-related information these dyas
[02:33] <broder> *days
[02:33] <broder> you can use upower --dump
[02:34] <akk> I usually just type acpi
[02:34] <akk> but d wanted to know where to get the info without running that program (or if it wasn't installed).
[02:36] <broder> my laptop has a /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0
[02:37] <akk> Interesting ... his Dell didn't. (but my Vaio does, turns out ... if I plug the battery in, which it wasn't :)
[02:38] <broder> hmm...don't have a dell running oneiric to check. but upower should be installed on any ubuntu desktop machine
[02:38] <broder> upower --dump will print out the full path to the /sys device
[02:39] <broder> if you go to that directory and ls -ld subsystem, you can get the short path
[02:39] <akk> thanks, I'll pass that along (he just moved to another room with the dell)
[02:55] <nhaines> akk: I'm pretty sure my laptop still has /proc/acpi/battery
[02:57] <broder> hmm, mine does too, but all the interesting stuff is in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0
[02:58] <nhaines> Right, but akk was saying that didn't even exist.
[02:59] <akk> Right, it didn't exist on the Dell, even though it was running off battery
[02:59] <akk> and the battery kernel module was loaded
[02:59] <broder> dell probably decided they were too cool for acpi or something
[03:03] <akk> They're a bit weird on batteries anyway ... the battery has some kind of chip in it to say whether it's a genuine Dell battery, or something.
[03:04] <akk> Some aftermarket batteries come with windows programs to trick windows into thinking it's a Dell battery (which of course doesn't work on linux).
[03:06] <MarkDude> grep "effing battery" EXISTS   <<< try that :D
[03:12] <grantbow> lol
[03:13] <MarkDude> Shhh, /me was reading some technical stuff - dont tell anyone
[03:14]  * MarkDude does not want to ruin his image
[03:14]  * grantbow can keep your secret MarkDude
[03:15] <MarkDude> Good deal
[04:40] <bkerensa> OH NO
[04:40] <bkerensa> :(
[04:41] <bkerensa> I missed akk
[04:48] <pleia2> fun release dinner :) had 10 people come out
[04:49] <bkerensa> !
[04:49] <bkerensa> Yay!
[04:49] <bkerensa> :D
[05:45] <zoclo> i have problems to install my printer in ubuntu 11.10
[06:52] <bkerensa> Gnight all
[09:00] <locodir-user_> is ne1 der
[17:14] <bkerensa> Dance Party! Ubuntu is 7 Years Old Today!
[17:15] <Darkwing> Nice!
[17:18]  * bkerensa just blogged about it ( Happy Birthday Ubuntu! http://j.mp/qqXomT )
[17:19] <Darkwing> I need to start blogging better.
[17:19] <Darkwing> Although, I'm opening up an old chapter to my programming.
[17:21] <nhaines> Darkwing: python?
[17:24] <bkerensa> pleia2: Will Regional Membership meeting be in #ubuntu-meeting ?
[17:24] <Darkwing> nhaines: Web apps and web programming
[17:25] <pleia2> bkerensa: yes
[17:25] <bkerensa> kk
[17:32] <Darkwing> http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/design-logo-scale-10x-win-trip-la
[17:32] <Darkwing> bkerensa: Didn't know if you wanted to share that with your guys up north.
[17:33] <nhaines> The guys on the other side of the cube wall are arguing about Star Wars.
[17:35] <bkerensa> Darkwing: I have passed it along
[17:35] <bkerensa> :D
[17:35] <Darkwing> :D Figured a free trip to LA and SCaLE would be worth it.
[17:36] <Darkwing> Plus, it's less work I have to do. :D
[17:56] <nhaines> Darkwing: did you find out anything about scheduling?
[17:57] <Darkwing> nhaines: I'm waiting for the email. As soon as I get it I'll forward it to you.
[18:01] <nhaines> Darkwing: thanks.
[18:15] <Gareth> 'lo
[18:15] <Darkwing> nhaines, Gareth. Gareth, nhaines
[18:15] <Gareth> Darkwing: we've met :)
[18:15]  * Darkwing ducks
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[18:16] <Gareth> hah
[18:16] <Gareth> nhaines: Hey Nathan :) understand you have some questions?
[18:16] <pleia2> geez, we let just anyone in here now don't we?
[18:16] <pleia2> :)
[18:16] <Gareth> apparently :)
[18:19]  * Gareth slinks into the shadows
[18:20] <nhaines> haha
[18:20] <nhaines> Gareth: yup, just wondering how many speakers I should con into speaking at Ubucon next year.  :)
[18:20] <Gareth> nhaines: schedule should be the same as last year.
[18:21] <nhaines> Gareth: okay, that should be easy enough.
[18:22] <Gareth> You might end up in the same room as last year too.
[18:22] <nhaines> Gareth: that'd be cool.  It was a nice setup.
[18:23] <bkerensa> Gareth: You coming up to Portland next year?
[18:24] <Gareth> bkerensa: not sure yet.
[18:25] <Gareth> I'd like to....Portland is awesome.
[21:24] <jyo> jtatum: So no street closures in Mt. View today, right? :P
[21:24] <jtatum> hopefully not :)
[21:25] <jtatum> it's too cold to go out on the street
[21:42] <pleia2> hm, it was just very bouncy in here
[21:42] <pleia2> earthquake :)
[21:44] <pleia2> that was stronger than the first one I felt, there was some serious bouncy
[21:45] <broder> huh, didn't make it down to the peninsula - i didn't notice anything
[21:49] <pleia2> ah, it was in berkeley, 4.2
[21:49] <jtatum> seeing various irc channels light up with earthquake in sf reports :)
[21:51] <broder> i think there was an xkcd comic about that :-P
[21:51] <pleia2> hehe
[21:51] <pleia2> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/nc/71667366/us/index.html
[21:53] <broder> looks like i should have felt it
[21:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: Are you a wine fan?
[21:56] <pleia2> I enjoy wine
[21:56] <bkerensa> pleia2: I just got this http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6264373715/in/photostream
[21:56]  * bkerensa is wondering if someday Jono's band Severed Fifth will have their own wine
[21:56] <bkerensa> :D
[21:57] <pleia2> cool
[21:57] <bkerensa> Yeah... Fiancee likes wine some but I'm not a big fan of drinking :P
[22:00] <akk> I didn't feel the quake at all in San Jose.
[22:00] <bkerensa> =o
[22:00] <bkerensa> akk: I have been looking for you :D
[22:00]  * bkerensa needs to ask a favor
[22:03]  * akk listens
[22:05] <bkerensa> akk: So we  (Ubuntu Oregon) have a sponsor for a banner and none of us are Gimp Masters and valorie says you are the Gimp Sensei :D we know what we want the layout to look like and we have the png's and one svg but the final product is looking a tad bit scrunched
[22:08] <akk> Scrunched? Do you have it online where I could look?
[22:09] <akk> (sorry for delays, I'm in the middle of a hot convo with Dell support trying to get this laptop to work ... in Windows, ick, then I get to try to figure out if it's possible in linux later on)
[22:09] <bkerensa> akk: It is on my other laptop right now I can grab it later when it comes to my office
[22:19] <akk> (yeesh, I hope it turns out to be easier to calibrate a touchscreen from linux than from windows ... this is crazy)
[22:22] <akk> I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about touchscreens? My worry is whether it's possible to calibrate sensitivity for the touchscreen and the touchpad separately.
[23:27] <akk> Anybody know how to generate an xorg.conf in oneiric? The old way of Xorg -configure doesn't work (gives errors).
[23:28] <akk> I'm trying to get a list of input devices X sees.
[23:34]  * MarkDude feels this way >> http://www.explainxkcd.com/2011/10/12/x11/
[23:34] <MarkDude> Every damn time I have learned how to mess with it
[23:34] <MarkDude> the way is changed
[23:34] <MarkDude> Like I am a bad user, and should not try it :)
[23:36] <akk> haha, yeah, I'd forgotten about that xkcd. So true.
[23:36] <akk> But I have this bum laptop that dell doesn't seem to know how to fix :(
[23:37] <bkerensa> MarkDude
[23:37] <bkerensa> PM?
[23:37] <MarkDude> Sure
[23:38] <MarkDude> I dont need to be asked on PM
[23:38] <MarkDude> Part of my being a public figure/d-bag
[23:38] <MarkDude> :D
[23:38] <MarkDude> Still a good idea to ask
[23:38] <MarkDude> Others at east
[23:48] <aaditya> MarkDude: You're a busy guy!
[23:48]  * MarkDude has been
[23:48] <MarkDude> How was your visit with your SoCal friend?
[23:49] <aaditya> It was amazing.
[23:49] <aaditya> No longer a SoCal friend though.
[23:50] <MarkDude> Good to hear
[23:50] <MarkDude> She moved closer?
[23:50] <aaditya> NorCal.
[23:50] <MarkDude> Alright
[23:50] <MarkDude> So when is the BBQ at your place
[23:50] <aaditya> A month from now, tentative.
[23:50] <MarkDude> Laura is hella down with vegetarian food
[23:50] <aaditya> awesome. We should do another in the meantime!
[23:50] <aaditya> I'm bringing her to the Ubuntu hour tonight btw.
[23:51] <raevol> Darkwing: any news on libertopia?
[23:54] <aaditya> She asked me if she could talk about how much she hates the UI. :P
[23:55] <Darkwing> raevol: I'm out of town and can't afford to foot the bill for the table. Our next event will be SCaLE up in LA in January.
[23:55] <MarkDude> lol
[23:58] <raevol> Darkwing: makes sense, no worries
[23:59] <raevol> i'm excited for SCaLE!
[23:59] <MarkDude> Hell yes for scale