[00:00] <ocelot00> im pretty confused
[00:00] <Islam>  whats the package to play the review once I stop the mouse on a music file ?
[00:00] <Zungete> ocelot00: .desktop files are special!
[00:00] <Zungete> DasEi: then, how to do it?
[00:00] <DasEi> Zungete: a line as : alias xlocker="login Zungete && xscreensaver-command --lock"
[00:01] <ocelot00> tbh its pretty lame that its not included in the os to just create one by right click
[00:01] <ocelot00> like in every other os
[00:01] <Zungete> DasEi: hmmm, idk, but, are you here always?
[00:01] <sweb> i want download list of files from txt files via wget . what is command ?
[00:01] <DasEi> Zungete: so it'll prompt for Zungetes pw and then lock the screenon that account, always ?? no, here and then
[00:01] <Zungete> DasEi: i'm not in ubuntu now
[00:01] <DoverOs> ocelot00: ikr. from the original template i pasted, all you want to do is change the name, and make your exec /blahblah/blah.sh
[00:02] <ocelot00> oh okay i will try that
[00:02] <ssfdre38> im trying to chroot 11.10 and im trying to get source.list going and i copied it from my computer but its still saying it needs some sources
[00:02] <Zungete> DasEi:and if i want pure root xscreensaver 'behave like in another uid'?
[00:02] <Zungete> -.-
[00:02] <DoverOs> ocelot00: and if it doesn't want to run, delete the undefined variables
[00:02] <DasEi> Zungete: with that line wherever you are just type xlocker and be set
[00:03] <Zungete> and i can froget about xlock?
[00:03] <ocelot00> kay thanks
[00:03] <DasEi> Zungete: then I can tell you meanwhile but suggest you bork your system yourself
[00:03] <Islam> whats the package to play the review once I stop the mouse on a music file ?
[00:03] <badapple> hi guys
[00:04] <DasEi> Zungete: rather advance it to an additional user just for lock if you are so eager, can even circumvent pw that way
[00:04] <Zungete> DasEi: how if i am not running ubuntu now? and it freezes -.-
[00:04] <badapple> can you tell me how can i see the mac adress allowed on some network ? =)
[00:05] <Zungete> DasEi: i want xscreensaver to behave like if you are running it as another uid
[00:05] <DasEi> badapple: allowed ? or given ?
[00:05] <Zungete> it launches everything as the uid logged on
[00:05] <Zungete> and i want that xscreensaver deamon run as uid 0 too
[00:05] <manbra_linux> Is there a way to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04
[00:06] <Zungete> manbra_linux: no, you just go up, never down,
[00:06] <manbra_linux> Damn it.  Is there a way to get the 11.04 GUI?
[00:06] <zeta-> Zungete: got gnome-session running, Thanks for your help, re-booting to see any result ...
[00:06] <manbra_linux> I've tried gnome classic, and that doesn't give me any desktop.  gnome is the same thing w/ a different skin.  and unity 2d or w/e it is gives me no desktop
[00:07] <Zungete> manbra_linux: i don't know,
[00:07] <DasEi> Zungete: another way , section 7: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#root-lock
[00:07] <manbra_linux> Zungete, thanks for the help anyways
[00:07] <Zungete> zeta-: don't reboot, and you need to login using that,
[00:08] <s1> manbra_linux: getting a blank-screen!
[00:08] <Zungete> DasEi well, i am going to reboot, you tell me again ok?
[00:08] <Gskellig> is there ANY way to get oracle JRE 7 on ubuntu?
[00:09] <s1> !nomodeset > manbra_linux
[00:09] <Zungete> DasEi: faq doesn't help, it's the same
[00:10] <manbra_linux> s1, what do you mean
[00:10] <Zungete> dase: i think i'm going to reboot to ubuntu...
[00:10] <DasEi> Zungete: I haven't ried xhost, did you?
[00:10] <DasEi> tried*
[00:10] <manbra_linux> s1, ohhhh.
[00:10] <magpii> i am trying to create a startup usb and re install a previous version of ubuntu as 11.04 is screwing my system. unfortunatly it has now decided to deny me access to both usb and mass storage devices. please help
[00:10] <Zungete> dase i disabled xhost acl
[00:10] <magpii> i am logged as admin
[00:10] <Zungete> and still same thin g
[00:10] <manbra_linux> s1, it shows me a desktop image, but there are no bars and i cant click on anything
[00:10] <deithrian> Help please, i can't make NumLock to turn on after reboot in Xubuntu. I tried to add "/usr/bin/numlockx on", which works in terminal, to crontab but it doesn't work, and tried to add "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on" in "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" that didn't work as well.Where can i add "/usr/bin/numlockx on" so it will be executed after i login?
[00:10] <Zungete> magpii: admin = root
[00:10] <Zungete> ?
[00:11] <magpii> yes i am root
[00:11] <Zungete> DasEi i try to run ubuntu, just tell me
[00:11] <Zungete> we;ll
[00:12] <Linuxx> @magmii check out lsusb see if your usb device has been reconized
[00:12] <Zungete> DasEi: i disabled completly xhost, not xhost +localhost
[00:12] <magpii> i downloaded iso image, and tried accessing the usb pen to install to it but it keeps telling me i dont have access
[00:12] <Zungete> instead i removed everything and did xhost +
[00:12] <s1> manbra_linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[00:13] <s1> !video > manbra_linux
[00:13] <TRACKBB> hi
[00:13] <jcgs> hi :) does anyone know what's happened in wine during the upgrade? why can't i choose audio drivers any more? Does this mean there's no way to get spotify to work?
[00:14] <magpii> when i log in under ubuntu 2d, it doesnt even show unetbootin under programs, yet it does under the other options
[00:14] <Zungete> jcgs: have you tired run pulseaudio from console?
[00:14] <Lobosque> if I used "sudo bash Install_3DSPUSB.sh"  to install a program. how do I unninstall it?
[00:15] <Lobosque> I upgraded my distro and this program do not work anymore, now I need to remove it.
[00:15] <Zungete> DasEi: ok, rebooting, i'ill disconnect, mmmmm are you tomorrow?  i am gonig to not do this now, i wll go to play games...
[00:15] <magpii> i cannot access any usb drives, it tells me i am not authorized, even though i am root and their are no other users setup on my system
[00:16] <Zungete> magpii: tired with nautilus?
[00:16] <DasEi> Zungete: 1628 people around now, feel free to come back, heh
[00:16] <Zungete> are thay mounted?
[00:16] <Zungete> lol
[00:16] <magpii> nautilus?
[00:16] <Zungete> magpii: the file explorer
[00:16] <Zungete> DasEi: but only 1 for this thing
[00:16] <magpii> will try now but i cant see it working
[00:17] <Zungete> you
[00:17] <manbra_linux> s1, thank you, reading through this now
[00:17] <Zungete> DasEi: only you for this xscreensaver thing
[00:17] <magpii> nautilus isnt showing listed under programes
[00:17] <Zungete> .....
[00:18] <Zungete> magpii: what are you running?
[00:18] <brandonc503> if i would have uploade files to comp via ftp, which owner and group would have been give? www-data?
[00:18] <magpii> ubuntu 2d 11.10
[00:18] <Lobosque> if I used "sudo bash Install_3DSPUSB.sh"  to install a program. how do I unninstall it?
[00:18] <jcgs> Zungete: No...What does that do? pulseaudio seems to be already running
[00:19] <Zungete> jcgs: have you check if is listed in processes?
[00:19] <jcgs> Zungete: yes, it is
[00:19] <Zungete> magpii: it haves another name
[00:19] <Zungete> it's file manager
[00:19] <magpii> nautilus is listed as sleeping under process monitor
[00:20] <Zungete> magpii: is runnnig, and use it! it's the file explorer! wtf
[00:20] <jcgs> Zungete: I have audio in everything else...just not spotify
[00:20] <Zungete> :O
[00:20] <Zungete> checked it's config?
[00:20] <afroman> hi. I upgraded to 11.10 but now I can't get internet through my wireless, although there is connection to the router
[00:20] <Zungete> relaunched?
[00:21] <Zungete> afroman: does the router have internet?
[00:21] <magpii> even under thunar file manager, it lists the usb pen, but tells me i am not authorized when i try opening it
[00:21] <jcgs> Zungete: winecfg has been changed so all the audio settings have gone :(
[00:21] <mattwj2002> hi guys what is wubi?
[00:21] <Zungete> omgh
[00:21] <deithrian> How can i add a terminal command to be executed after login?
[00:21] <Zungete> fix that then jcgs
[00:22] <afroman> Zungete: yes
[00:22] <Zungete> mattwj2002: it's a simple thing for windows, it allows ubuntu under windows
[00:22] <magpii> afroman> i had to delete all other saved networks before i could get access through my wireless after upgrade
[00:22] <jcgs> Zungete: we'll i'm sort of trying to...I think the developers have messed around with it something terrible
[00:22] <Paul4> Hello, I upgraded my old Dell 1.5 Ghz machine to 11.10. Not a good experience. No video, no mouse and no printer. I can log in to an old kernel and get it working. Anyone else have this type of experience. Wish I had left it alone.
[00:22] <mattwj2002> Zungete: does it create a virtual ubuntu?
[00:22] <afroman> Zungete: the router has internet, is connected to the laptop, it even gives an ip adress
[00:22] <magpii> the developers shouldnt have even let 11.10 past beta imo
[00:23] <mattwj2002> install or a physical install
[00:23] <Zungete> but is not native, so it's better to do a physical inst
[00:23] <Zungete> and it downgrades perfomance in win
[00:23] <Zungete> and it disables hibernation
[00:23] <magpii> as root, how do i regain authorization on usb drives?
[00:23] <afroman> magpii: yes I did erase all previous saved networks
[00:23] <Zungete> magpii: mount?
[00:24] <mattwj2002> Zungete here is ultimately what I want
[00:24] <mattwj2002> ubuntu running in Windows off of a thumb drive
[00:24] <Zungete> mattwj2002: whatever is like a virtual system
[00:24] <magpii> the drive is mounted, it is listed in the places list, but it wont let me access it
[00:24] <wedgie> i have installed my own jabber server (ejabberd). How can i make Empathy connect to it?
[00:24] <mattwj2002> can wubi do that?
[00:24] <Zungete> magpii: wired, tired to do chmod to it?
[00:24] <magpii> ?
[00:25] <Zungete> mattwj2002: yes, but be aware of slowness
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> mattwj2002: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> mattwj2002: old but relevant article http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows
[00:26] <aslan_> hello everyone
[00:26] <wedgie> i'm just not seeing the option in Empathy where it lets you specify what server to connect to
[00:28] <Zungete> is there's unity for windows?
[00:29] <MarkGreenwood> Hi ! I just reinstalled Ubuntu 11.10 and I am now encountering some problems. I have an ATI graphics card and I noticed some quite unbearable lag when enabling  the proprietery drivers. After googling around, I found that I had to install CompizCSM and disable some vblank stuff. I did. Now I logged out and I cn't log back in. All I see is black. I manuallyrestarted, but aain, only black. Anyone has had this problem ? Or know ho
[00:29] <aeon-ltd> Zungete: no
[00:29] <aslan__> hey, someone know where hiddin xchat after hide ?
[00:29] <magpii> i want to downgrade back to 10.04, but i cannot get access to my usb drives, can someone help
[00:29] <celso_celso> people, is there any ubuntu 11.10 image updated with all the updates? like a daily build but oficial?
[00:29] <aslan__> i have nwe ubuntu with this new envirment
[00:30] <Zungete> no, there's live cd, impossible, unless you make it presistent and update it and then put it in cd
[00:30] <jcgs> celso_celso: if you do an online upgrade, you get the latest versions of all the packages
[00:30] <magpii> my usb drive is mounted and listed in places, but it says unauthorized whenever i try access it
[00:30] <Zungete> celso_celso: read
[00:30] <Lobosque> I'm in recorvery mode trying to delete some files and it says that I'm on read-only filesystem. WTF?
[00:30] <jcgs> aslan__: not in the system tray?
[00:30] <Zungete> magpii: check it permissions
[00:31] <afroman> magpii: Zungete: any idea how to fix the wireless problems?
[00:31] <celso_celso> cause the 11.10 has bugs that make my system impossible to connect to internet (no support huawei e220)
[00:31] <magpii> it wont let me change permissions, that option is greyed out
[00:31] <Zungete> Lobosque: wtf what mount command says?
[00:31] <jcgs> aslan__: or dock-like unity thingy?
[00:31] <derek> I was updating to ubuntu 11.10 from 10.04 using the update manager, had a power failure in the middle of installation, and now that i got the desktop to load, and some programs to work, i have to use gnome classic to load it, and most programs won't run now, says there is no executable program to open them, any thoughts on what might be happening?
[00:31] <MarkGreenwood> Anyone  has any ideas ?
[00:31] <Zungete> magpii: as root? Wireder!
[00:31] <magpii> afroman> not sure, i had to reboot and use a different kernal at login
[00:32] <magpii> i am root, the only user on this computer
[00:32] <afroman> magpii: I did that 2
[00:32] <jcgs> derek: can you do an update in the terminal?
[00:32] <jcgs> derek: like a package update...
[00:32] <afroman> magpii: now I'm using 2.6.32, but still no results
[00:33] <derek> jcgs: i tried that and thats how i got to the piont im at now, dont know if i did it right tho.
[00:33] <Aoute> hey, someone know where is xchat after hidding? I have banshee and terminal on belt after hidding, but xchat disappear :(
[00:33] <magpii> afroman> the only other option, which i am trying to do, is downgrade back to 10.04, this 11.10 is riddled with stupid bugs that shouldnt have even got past beta
[00:33] <ocelot00> wow now i cant even launch my sh file anymore -.-
[00:33] <ocelot00> it says access denied
[00:33] <Lobosque> Zungete, I must delete some files that are preventing me to start normally... I just want do delete them in recorvery mode. I'm no linux guru... Just wish to delete. that's all.
[00:33] <ocelot00> this is getting ridiculous
[00:33] <magpii> afroman> you tried the other gui's that are listed at login?
[00:34] <magpii> like ubuntu 2d
[00:34] <ocelot00> okay over 3 hours for making a stupid file run by double clicking is definitely too much
[00:34] <ocelot00> im back to mac guys have a good life
[00:34] <magpii> lol
[00:34] <celso_celso> jcgs - online upgrade? like, when i am on the installation menu, i select install updates ou install above 11.04?
[00:34] <afroman> magpii: all 4, recovery, unity, unity 2d and user defined
[00:34] <afroman> magpii: no joy
[00:34] <Aoute> Unity little sux in my opinion, i am confused :P
[00:35] <afroman> Aoute: amen to that
[00:35] <Aoute> i have problem, i dont like gnome and kde :P
[00:35] <magpii> afroman> sorry mate, i dont know what else to suggest other than re instal previous version.
[00:35] <Aoute> gnome looks sux and kde is unstable :P
[00:35] <Aoute> now i have mix of them :P
[00:35] <Cortex> Can anybody help? I'm having trouble with my flash drive on Ubuntu
[00:36] <Cortex> *usb drive on Ubuntu
[00:36] <Aoute> Unity looks like designed for tablets
[00:36] <magpii> 11.10 is acting like a downsyndrome 5 year old built it
[00:36] <robin0800> !notunity | Aoute
[00:36] <Cortex> Can anyone help? I'm having problems with my usb drive using Ubuntu Unity
[00:36] <magpii> how can i regain authorization to access usb drives as root?
[00:37] <magpii> dont tell me, it tells you your not authorized right?
[00:37] <Aoute> yea, but i like Unity's look, but i think i have to move to normal gnome without unity
[00:38] <Cortex> magpii: me?
[00:38] <magpii> yeah
[00:38] <aeon-ltd> Aoute: dude, hell don't deal with it. most DEs are like this because that's what DEs are designed for 'integration' imo WMs are much nicer and you get to choose every part of it; if you have time and want change use 'Openbox' it's light, nice and very barebones all you need is a openbox, a panel and your apps.
[00:38] <s1> !gnome2 | Aoute
[00:38] <s1> Cortex: what is the issue with the USB!
[00:38] <Cortex> magpii: Nah. It keeps saving files I delete from my usb and I can't see them
[00:39] <magpii> i cannot access my usb drives as root. keeps telling me i aint authorized
[00:39] <Cortex> s1: Unity keeps saving files I delete from the usb on a trash folder I can't see on Unity, but on Windows I can
[00:40] <Aoute> what the difference between gnome 3 and 2 ? I install ubuntu 2 days ago, before i used this when kde 3 was on the dancefloor :P
[00:40] <Aoute> so it was long time ago :P
[00:40] <magpii> you tried a perm inant delete rather than move to trash?
[00:40] <Cortex> s1: So if I want to delete 3gb from the usb, it sends it to a trash folder within the usb, which I can't acess on Unity
[00:40] <Cortex> magpii: Just basic delete button, the trash folder never popped up on my usb before Unity
[00:41] <Cortex> Note: the trash folder is being saved on the usb, so Unity is not actually deleting them just saving them on an unseen folder on my usb
[00:41] <magpii> can someone tell me how i regain authorization to access my usb drives as root?
[00:41] <magpii> please
[00:41] <Aoute> now i am instaling Gnome desktop environment from ubuntu software center
[00:42] <Aoute> correct? :P
[00:42] <Aoute> could you tell me what i should choose : gdm or lightgdm?
[00:42] <Aoute> i have new PC
[00:42] <Aoute> please :P
[00:43] <derek> i put my cd in to try to load another version, and i can't autorun it, and i can't load it whe i start up, using a netbook with a usb cd drive, can i make it load the cd on boot up? and how?
[00:43] <s1> Cortex: thats messed up!
[00:44] <Cortex> Sorry for repeating, but: On Unity, anything I delete from my usb isn't being deleted but sent to a hidden "trash folder' on the usb, so it's not actually deleting anything. I can't acess this trash folder from Unity, but I can from Windows. I'd just like to stop Unity from doing this
[00:44] <s1> !USB > magpii
[00:44] <s1> !usb
[00:44] <s1> err,
[00:44] <Aoute> Cortex: you try to choose opion " remove savely " or " remove volumen " ?
[00:45] <Aoute> then ubuntu deleting files before you disconnect usb-stick
[00:45] <Aoute> option*
[00:45] <Cortex> Aoute: I just delete them directly from the usb, is that what you're asking?
[00:45] <s1> magpii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Troubleshooting
[00:46] <Cortex> Aoute: ah, i think I got it
[00:46] <Aoute> Cortex: you want to delete files from usb pendrive right? Cus i dont know i am understand you correct :P
[00:46] <datakid> anyone got samba smarts? I've tried everything - for some reason a machine will not connect. Error is access is denied. but net rpc list shows I have the right to connect a machine
[00:46] <Aoute> m'kay
[00:47] <henkye> hello,using wake on alarm in bios. is there any utility to set it from ubuntu directly without reboot ? sry for little OT
[00:47] <afroman> does this unity has an icon workplace (like the vlc icon when it's running)?
[00:47] <Cortex> Aoute: Yes, but you already answered my question. I just chose "eject" and it gave me an option to remove everything from the hidden trash folder
[00:48] <Lobosque> I give up
[00:48] <Lobosque> bye linux.
[00:48] <e20100633> henkye: you mean rtc?
[00:48] <aeon-ltd> datakid: firewall?
[00:48] <Cortex> Aoute: Thank you! Don't know why I didn't think of this before.
[00:48] <Aoute> Cortex: yes, now it shuld be deteling files, i know i have similar problem few years ago :P
[00:48] <Aoute> Cortex: no problem :P
[00:48] <datakid> aeon-ltd, nope, tx though. I'm inside the fw
[00:49] <pooltable> help looking for a program to auto resize a photo to an 8x10 but also look good any ideas
[00:49] <henkye> e20100633: power on pc in selected time
[00:49] <Cortex> Aoute: Ha ha. Thanks again. That's all I needed help with so I'm leaving. :)
[00:49] <darkhalo117> Anybody know if xbmc can play blu ray as of yet?
[00:49] <e20100633> henkye: oh, ok, I misunderstood then, sorry
[00:49] <henkye> e20100633: np .-)
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> datakid: do you have a user added to samba?
[00:50] <datakid> aeon-ltd, yep, I've previously (6months ago) added half a dozen machines
[00:50] <henkye> my personal gues it's not, since it would be highly vendor dependant ...
[00:50] <henkye> but who knows ?
[00:51] <Aoute> hey, when i have installed " The GNOME Desktop Environment " what i should do to launch it?
[00:51] <Aoute> restart?
[00:51] <root_> logout
[00:51] <aeon-ltd> Aoute: log out change session log back in
[00:52] <Aoute> okay, brb
[00:52] <e20100633> henkye: well, if your computer is suspended to RAM, you can use /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm to set the time; but if it's totally switch off I don't know
[00:53] <henkye> e20100633: well    it sounds interesting     worth try it out   thx for pointing me
[00:54] <aeon-ltd> datakid: you can view the samba share and when you try to connect it fails?
[00:54] <e20100633> note that your computer have to support rtc, but if you already have powerup on time in your bios, it might be good
[00:54] <henkye> e20100633: no big difference for me if suspend or shutdown
[00:54] <Kevman> Does anyone know how to get FreeNX working? When I try to connect to a Ubuntu server from Windows, I get a black window that disappears after about 3 seconds
[00:55] <e20100633> henkye: you just have to echo 0 > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm
[00:55] <Gskellig> trying to install sun JRE 7, I get this error: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for java.
[00:55] <Gskellig>  when running "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[00:56] <e20100633> henkye: then echo $(date '+%s' -d '$TIME') > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm where $TIME is written is a good way (see man date for that)
[00:56] <e20100633> just grep alrm_date /proc/driver/rtc |cut -d ' ' -f2 and grep alrm_time /proc/driver/rtc |cut -d ' ' -f2 to see the results
[00:56] <lnbwhit> can someone pls help
[00:56] <e20100633> you might make you some sh script to handle this automaticaly
[00:57] <GI_Jack> sweet jeebus, now lightdm will not load automaticly anymore
[00:57] <datakid> aeon-ltd, I can see the share, I can connect to the share
[00:57] <datakid> I can't join the Domain though ?
[00:57] <GI_Jack> how do I reset upstart to the default ubuntu config?
[00:57] <e20100633> s/written is/written in/
[00:57] <Aoute> It looks stable on 2d mode, normal Gnome looks sick now :(
[00:57] <henkye> e20100633: wow, didnt expected such complex answer, ill copy & paste it and try later   thank u very much sir .-)
[00:58] <lnbwhit> just updated to ubuntu 11.10 and my wifi will not work I know I can enable it some how through terminal can any help with that pls
[00:58] <henkye> e20100633: good night
[00:58] <Gskellig>  when running "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[00:59] <e20100633> your welcome henkye; you too
[00:59] <Gskellig>  I get this error: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for java.
[00:59] <Gskellig> trying to install Sun JRE 7
[00:59] <aeon-ltd> datakid: can i see your smb.conf?
[00:59] <Aoute> someone know how i can return Unity login screen? :P
[01:00] <playboy> press ctrl+alt+F1\F2\F3..
[01:02] <datakid> aeon-ltd, sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713761/
[01:02] <MrKeuner> hello, replaced my Lucid's version of xorg installation with xorg-edgers' repository packages. That caused freezing problems and used ppa-purge application from the xorg-edgers' repository to purge theirs and install old packages. Seems like there is no freeze so far, however I recently started experiencing xorg crashes upon wakeups... I was thinking some setting files might have been messed up. Is there a way to reinstall all xorg related packa
[01:02] <MrKeuner> ges "with purging"?
[01:03] <lucianoloder> hi to all
[01:03] <lucianoloder> i have just updated to ubuntu 11.10, and have lost all my shortcuts and information that i had in the upper menu
[01:03] <share> :(
[01:03] <lucianoloder> is there a way to put shortcuts in the upper menu?:
[01:04] <brandonc503> how can i see my groups and users?
[01:04] <brandonc503> used to be able to drag and drop em Luc, but seems i cant do that now
[01:04] <lucianoloder> the other application i use and will miss a lot is that bar indicating the percentage of CPU, RAM and network activity
[01:04] <brandonc503> and that top bar seems to be taken over by what ever app i have maximised
[01:04] <share> brandonc503: system > admin > users and groups
[01:05] <Aoute> how i can set to Ubuntu 2d as default?
[01:06] <brandonc503> share: i dont see admin in system settings
[01:06] <share> Aoute: at login I guess?
[01:06] <share> brandonc503: I am using 10.10
[01:06] <brandonc503> oh, im using newest
[01:06] <Aoute> yes, now i have gnome, gnome classic, ubuntu, ubuntu 2d
[01:06] <Aoute> and i want set to ubuntu 2d
[01:07] <GI_Jack> upstart seems to not want to load lightdm, anyone have any ideas
[01:07] <GI_Jack> I had to manually login with tty1 and sudo lightdm
[01:07] <playboy> have smoeone know how to have a 3D desktop
[01:07] <GI_Jack> it just falls from boot splash back to text, and gets to loading alsa timitidy++
[01:08] <GI_Jack> anyone else get this, and I'm kinda lost navigating all the run level init scripts
[01:08] <Aoute> share: Do you know how i can set this?
[01:08] <M25> hi, I'm trying to run several processes as a given user on system boot, specifically an Electric Sheep renderer, minecraft server, and Shairport server.  When I try to use su in the script, I get an incomplete startup, and glitches galore from unstarted processes
[01:08] <M25> does anyone know how to change users in an /etc/init.d/ script?
[01:08] <share> Aoute: no, sry
[01:09] <GI_Jack> m25 what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <aeon-ltd> datakid: have you tried changing security from 'user' to 'domain'?
[01:09] <datakid> aeon-ltd, not yet, will try now
[01:09] <playboy> anyone know how to install 3D desktop?
[01:09] <M25> run several processes as a non-root user, but start them on system boot rather than user login
[01:10] <M25> GI_Jack: ^
[01:10] <aviandroid> REGISTER
[01:10] <root_> aoute  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856297
[01:11] <christopher> I got a question for All Ubuntu Users
[01:11] <GI_Jack> m25 - you can always set the GUID bit
[01:11] <GI_Jack> like chown user:user filename
[01:11] <GI_Jack> then chmod u+s filename
[01:11] <GI_Jack> before you run it then change it back
[01:11] <Aoute> root: thank you!
[01:11] <GI_Jack> or SUID I am sorry
[01:11] <GI_Jack> GUID is group
[01:12] <M25> GI_Jack: per executable that I run? or for the init.d script itself?
[01:12] <christopher> Hello My Fellow Ubuntu Users I got a Question
[01:12] <GI_Jack> m25 - for every executable you run
[01:12] <root_> welcome
[01:12] <datakid> aeon-ltd, no joy
[01:12] <datakid> :|
[01:12] <GI_Jack> ok
[01:12] <conntrack> o_O
[01:12] <christopher> Do you think Ubuntu will get so main stream it will become more of a problem to Windows And Apple
[01:13] <M25> GI_Jack: huh.  that'll work for the electric sheep one, but I've got a Perl script and a Bash script running the other two, how far down the chain will I need to set the SUID?
[01:13] <GI_Jack> this sysv init thing is KILLING me. I just wish ubuntu had arch style BSD init
[01:13] <GI_Jack> m25 hrmm, I think you should be able to use sudo as well
[01:13] <Shaba1> Hello all
[01:13] <christopher> I wish there was more GUI for ubuntu less terminal
[01:13] <GI_Jack> I think the top level script should be it, and it should cascade down whatever it calls
[01:13] <M25> GI_Jack: as in sudo -u user?
[01:13] <Shaba1> I just connected an external usb wifi adapter
[01:14] <GI_Jack> m25 I believe so
[01:14] <GI_Jack> man sudo
[01:14] <GI_Jack> probably better than futzing with permissions
[01:14] <Shaba1> How do I determine is ubuntu is using my internal laptop adapter or the external one?
[01:14] <M25> GI_Jack: huh, I'll try it.  Is there any better way to test it than rebooting a dozen times over?
[01:14]  * edwardthefma hates he linksys
[01:14] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to install joerg schilly cdrtools 3.01 on my ubuntu 11.10 but for some reason i can't get it to install
[01:14] <GI_Jack> m25 - run the script, open up a new terminal and ps aux |grep less
[01:15] <GI_Jack> or ps aux > test_results
[01:15] <GI_Jack> err ps aux |less
[01:15] <M25> GI_Jack: huh, see, the weird part is that it works when I run it as plain root
[01:15] <M25> GI_Jack: but not on boot
[01:15] <GI_Jack> ????
[01:15] <GI_Jack> strange
[01:16] <M25> at least the Minecraft server does
[01:16]  * edwardthefma hats his linksys router
[01:16] <GI_Jack> it could rely on boot scripts that haven't run yet
[01:16] <oliver__> hellow..
[01:16] <M25> when these init scripts are run, are all fstab partitions already mounted
[01:16] <oliver__> i need help
[01:16] <GI_Jack> best bet is to put everything in /etc/rc.local
[01:16] <share> oliver__: hellow
[01:16] <GI_Jack> so it runs last
[01:16] <share> !ask | oliver__
[01:16] <GI_Jack> and doesn't futz with upstart or the sysv init proccess which is a PITA
[01:16] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu Server unable to start after accidental power drop.  Getting error:fd1 cannot get c/h/s values.  Root system was an md raid 1 setup with lvm.  Suggestions please...
[01:16] <edwardthefma> who has ever had thare router change a computers router ip out of the blew befor
[01:17] <Shaba1> anyone?
[01:17] <oliver__> anybody knows about php mysql?
[01:17] <crash1hd> can anyone show me how I can modify this script so that I can get a total count of files? find . -type f | egrep -i "\.(png|jpg|tif|psd)$" | while read f; do echo $f; done
[01:17] <xangua> !anyone | Shaba1 oliver__
[01:17] <chris7> hi
[01:17] <GI_Jack> sweet jesus, I am trying to reboot again, brb
[01:17] <M25> GI_Jack: thanks for the help, I may be back when it all blows up in my face :P
[01:18] <chris7> hello im looking for a ubuntu person to bounch ideas and free thinking off of
[01:18] <Shaba1> well actually that was the question
[01:18] <ghostnik11> has anyone ever installed cdrtools 3.01 for ubuntu
[01:18] <Shaba1> how do I tell which adapter this laptop is using
[01:18] <aeon-ltd> datakid: sorry man imma give up, all i can say is ask again here and in #samba; and or bounce ideas off the guys in #archlinux (don't say you're using ubuntu :) )
[01:19] <datakid> aeon-ltd, thanks appreciate it
[01:21] <ssfdre38> is there more then one source.list?
[01:24] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38:yes, there is
[01:24] <Shaba1> Hello can anyone try to answer my previous question
[01:25] <Shaba1> how do I tell which adapter this laptop is using
[01:25] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, do you know where cause im trying to set up a oneiric chroot for program testing
[01:25] <share> !ask | Shaba1
[01:25] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: there is a folder, /etc/apt/sources_list.d, containing other "sources.list"  archives, that you can fill with one document per sources list, if you want
[01:25] <Fudge> hi anyone know with apt-add-repository how to add a ppa and make it disabled, i.e #commented
[01:26] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, i have source.list.d not sources_list.d
[01:26] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: ok, its the same thing, ...
[01:26] <ssfdre38> for me its a blank directory
[01:26] <christopher> Hey any young Ubuntu users like me on here?
[01:26] <sweb> i download multiple files via wget -i /tmp/download.txt and i want to save each file as a new integer how can i do this ?
[01:26] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: but what are you trying to do, install ubuntu oneric in other partiton for testing?
[01:26] <MrKeuner> hello, replaced my Lucid's version of xorg installation with xorg-edgers' repository packages. That caused freezing problems and used ppa-purge application from the xorg-edgers' repository to purge theirs and install old packages. Seems like there is no freeze so far, however I recently started experiencing xorg crashes upon wakeups... I was thinking some setting files might have been messed up. Is there a way to reinstall all xorg related packa
[01:26] <MrKeuner> ges "with purging"?
[01:26] <sweb> wget -i /tmp/download.txt -O=%d not work
[01:27] <MrKeuner> back
[01:27] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, just chroot the distro so i can get it for program testing and dev
[01:27] <oliver__> any guys here know how to change appearance in ubuntu 10.04?
[01:28] <christopher> right click, go to change background image, theme and tada
[01:28] <saruji_> does anyone know where I can find an easy imgur uploading deb?
[01:28] <share> oliver__: theme?
[01:29] <xangua> oliver__: www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:29] <christopher> what exactly are you looking for Oliver
[01:29] <georgetso> hello, emergency help needed -> I can't login to my ubuntu server
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> georgetso: do you get a login prompt?
[01:29] <georgetso> hello, emergency help needed -> I can't login to my ubuntu server, it asks me to login, but when I input my username, it said "the system is going down for maintenance in 5 minutes"
[01:30] <georgetso> and then ask me to login again
[01:30] <georgetso> infinite loop
[01:30] <georgetso> I'm using ubuntu server, not desktop
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> georgetso: do you have free space on the partitons?
[01:30] <oliver__> thanks xagua
[01:30] <georgetso> yes
[01:31] <isteed> hello all, would this be a place where i can get some support for switching drivers in 11.10?
[01:31] <MrPockets> OHHI
[01:31] <MrPockets> HEY
[01:31] <georgetso> the thing is, last night I gave a command "sudo shutdown -h +30", and then I turn the system down by force
[01:31] <georgetso> I guess that's the clue, but I have no idea how to fix it
[01:31] <georgetso> I can't login at all now
[01:31] <MrPockets> y
[01:32] <lee_> Question: I am attempting to install ubuntu on a mac pro via an 11.10 +mac installation disk. I want to wipe everything, but when i boot up into the cd-rom, it presents a grub interface. Any direction on what might be wrong?
[01:32] <MrPockets> fix ur bewt loadr
[01:32] <georgetso> lee_: hold option key when boot
[01:33] <isteed> lee_, u need to boot from cd
[01:33] <lucianoloder> georgetso: well, "shutdown -c"  should cancel a shutdown, but you say that cant connect, ..
[01:33] <lee_> isteed: I thought i did, how else am i at the grub loader?
[01:33] <georgetso> lucianoloder: no i can't
[01:33] <lee_> isteed: Eg: Windows was previously installed on this machine. There was no linux, there was no grub
[01:33] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, just so you know i did cp the entire /etc/apt folder over to my chroot
[01:34] <lee_> If i'm in Grub at all, doesn't that mean the CD was read and booted?
[01:34] <isteed> have you tried just hitting enter?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> lee_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:34] <isteed> lee_, you could test the iso
[01:35] <lee_> Hmm, k
[01:35] <lucianoloder> georgetso: what happens when you try to boot? it boots ok? did you try to use CTRL-ALT-F1 to go to prompt menu? so to you to know, you can use CTRL-ALT-F7 to return, ..
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> lee_: I'm guessing you didn't, a bad ISO will generate issues
[01:35] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: I dont know if it will help you, but you can install any debian-like system using debootstrap, ..
[01:36] <lee_> ActionParsnip: Nope, working on it now :)
[01:36] <lee_> ActionParsnip: It's windows.. i'm looking for something to md5 check it now :)
[01:36] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: At least i used it one time or other to bring a system up
[01:36] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: of course, to do a chroot you will need to mount /dev, /sys and /proc too, ..
[01:37] <Shaba1> Hello am I still here in this channel?
[01:37] <ssfdre38> they are all mounted
[01:37] <Shaba1> damn
[01:37] <Shaba1> no wonder no one was answering
[01:37] <ssfdre38> fail?
[01:37] <isteed> aparently i have the most difficult brodcom chip out there, can anybody help me get off the closed driver and move to the open b43 driver?
[01:37] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: they are all mounted in the chrooted system?
[01:37] <ssfdre38> yea
[01:37] <Shaba1> I just had a bunch of text scroll by all at one time\
[01:37] <lucianoloder> if the partition is in /mnt, proc should be in /mnt/proc, ..
[01:38] <isteed> Shaba1, you may have an intermitting internet connection.
[01:38] <georgetso> lucianoloder: it boots ok, then ask me to log in. When I input my username, it said "the system is going down for maintenance in 5 minutes" followed by "login incorrect"
[01:38] <georgetso> lucianoloder: then ask me to login again
[01:39] <lucianoloder> georgetso: it happens in the graphical login or in the console too?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | lee_
[01:39] <georgetso> lucianoloder: console, I'm using server, not desktop
[01:39] <lee_> ActionParsnip: Yup, checking now :)
[01:40] <Shaba1> how do I tell which adapter this laptop is using
[01:40] <Shaba1> How do I determine is ubuntu is using my internal laptop adapter or the external one?
[01:40] <lucianoloder> georgetso: well, i really dont know, maybe booting in recovery mode would help you, but i really dont know, ..
[01:40] <georgetso> lucianoloder: oh, no password hint prompted
[01:40] <georgetso> I'll try
[01:42] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: well, i think that it should work, maybe you need to "sudo apt-get update" after changing the source_list packets, ...
[01:42] <georgetso> lucianoloder: oh, when I input root instead of my own username
[01:42] <georgetso> lucianoloder: it asks for password now
[01:42] <crash1hd> can anyone show me how I can modify this script so that I can get a total count of files? find . -type f | egrep -i "\.(png|jpg|tif|psd)$" | while read f; do echo $f; done
[01:42] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, i just got it all working now
[01:42] <georgetso> lucianoloder: but I can't know the password of root
[01:42] <s1> Shaba1: sudo lshw -c Network
[01:42] <jrib> crash1hd: send the output to wc -l
[01:43] <jrib> crash1hd: though what you've written is fairly redundant...
[01:43] <jdjbmedina> how do i get rid of unity in 11.10 and have gnome3 as my desktop
[01:43] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: well, happy hacking for you, ...
[01:43] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38:hehehhe
[01:44] <crash1hd> jrib, why do you say that?
[01:44] <psingh> isteed, I presume you've already tried installing firmware-b43-installer package ?
[01:44] <lucianoloder> georgetso: Sometimes it is the same password of your normal user, ...
[01:44] <s1> !notunity | jdjbmedina
[01:44] <jrib> crash1hd: well you're using egrep instead of a switch like -name to find and you're reading the input and just echoing it back which is pointless
[01:44] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, more like happy modding
[01:45] <diavolo_> I just installed ubuntu 11.10.  I want to install the divinorum-revisited gtk theme, but I have no idea how anymore.  It was easy in previous ubuntu versions.  The methods I've found in google so far are too vague, or just don't work.  How can I install a gtk theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:45] <share> !oneiric
[01:45] <share> thank you ubottu
[01:45] <crash1hd> jrib, well echoing it back to make sure its getting what I want (once I know what I have then I am going to change the echo to a mv command)
[01:45] <lucianoloder> georgetso: if you really want to do something nasty, you "could" change the root password by hand dealing with /etc/password and /etc/shadow ...
[01:45] <jrib> crash1hd: what do you actually want to do?
[01:45] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I booted into recovery mode and changed root password now
[01:45] <Shaba1> thanks s1
[01:46] <crash1hd> jrib, I am searching a drive looking for all image and videos and moving them to a single folder
[01:46] <georgetso> lucianoloder: but when I go with "shutdown -c", it said no shutdown work arranged
[01:46] <Shaba1> Now how do I install the drivers for the external adapter
[01:46] <Shaba1> ??
[01:46] <jrib> crash1hd: just use find with -exec
[01:46] <eeeBeefster> I'm having problems with graphics hardware acceleration on 10.04 today
[01:46] <lucianoloder> georgetso: stragne, ...
[01:46] <lee_> ActionParsnip: Well the image is good, looking for something to test the cd itself at the moment
[01:46] <eeeBeefster> It worked yesterday
[01:46] <lucianoloder> georgetsostrange, ..
[01:46] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I guess it's because my stupidness last night
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> lee_: its available when you first boot. Its called 'check CD for defects'
[01:47] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I input "sudo shutdown -h -P 30"
[01:47] <crash1hd> jrib, ok how would that work?
[01:47] <lee_> ActionParsnip: You're forgetting i can't get past Grub :)
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> diavolo_: according to http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Divinorum-Revisited?content=89200   its a GTK2 theme, unless its rehashed for GTK3
[01:47] <ShiningGlass> hello!
[01:47] <jrib> crash1hd: are you familiar with -exec?
[01:47] <lucianoloder> georgetso: ah, sometimes that kind of thing happens, i did it once, but i formatted the PC at the time, ..
[01:47] <ShiningGlass> is anybody else having issues with Spotify by any chance?
[01:47] <crash1hd> jrib, no
[01:48] <johnjohn101> how do i remove  a user so that it doesn't show up on the login screen?
[01:48] <georgetso> lucianoloder: no, this is the server, can't just format
[01:48] <jrib> crash1hd: start at the man page for find, there are some examples.  Feel free to ask if you are stuck or unsure
[01:48] <crash1hd> jrib, ok
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: is it the guest account per chance?
[01:48] <lucianoloder> georgetso: i think that shutdown -c should have worked, i dont know why it doesnt, ..
[01:48] <lucianoloder> georgetso: maybe because the users are different, ...
[01:49] <diavolo_> ActionParsnip, is it impossible to install a gtk2 theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:49] <drahst> sigh... for some reason, I can start libvirtd with the -d and the -l flag manually and it works fine, but I can't start it with libvirt-bin with the -l flag... I don't know why
[01:49] <ShiningGlass> anybody who runs Spotify: are you able to login? update? I get an error when trying to log in, and I sudo apt-get update gives me an error, too
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> diavolo_: its a different GTK so probably not (as far as I know, I'd ask in #gnome as well)
[01:49] <Explodingpiglets> Is there a terminal command that wipes everything on my hard drive?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: sure, you can use dd
[01:49] <Explodingpiglets> just, dd?
[01:50] <Explodingpiglets> I just type dd?
[01:50] <ssfdre38> is there a way i can get the 10.04 apt source.list?
[01:50] <Explodingpiglets> and that does it?
[01:50] <diavolo_> ActionParsnip, alright, thanks
[01:50] <jrib> ssfdre38: why?
[01:50] <isteed> rm -rf / ???
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: no, it takes options and junk, read guides and the man pages
[01:50] <jrib> isteed: please don't type that out of context
[01:50] <ssfdre38> for my 10.04 chroot
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> isteed: the drive will more than likely NOT be the one for /
[01:50] <isteed> jrib, o wow, i made the bots cry a litle.
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> isteed: I'm not a bot
[01:51] <Explodingpiglets> isteed, is that command one that will wipe the whole drive?
[01:51] <share> just ban him
[01:51] <ssfdre38> i want to use 11.10 and 10.04LTS for my chroot
[01:51] <isteed> ActionParsnip, i know this
 also I wouldn't recommend distro upgrading without backups simply because one of the four times I distro upgraded, something fucked up and I had to reinstall
[01:51] <ShiningGlass> shit, wrong window
[01:51] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: no, that will wipe the OS you are currently running, it won't work and it may remove data you want
[01:51] <share> !language | ShiningGlass
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: if you want to wipe your currently running ubuntu partitions then you will need to boot to liveCD
[01:52] <Explodingpiglets> ActionParsnip, let's say I have some programs on my computer that aren't necessarily illegal, but may place me under suspicion if my laptop were confiscated
[01:52] <mattwj2002> hi might be outside of your support limits but I am using portable ubuntu remix in Windows 7 and it keeps inputting an = that I am not inputting
[01:52] <mattwj2002> any ideas?
[01:52] <Explodingpiglets> I would want a fast an easy way to wipe the drive, but  not damage it
[01:52] <AScannerDarkly> Just curious, did anyone else's "Evolution" mail freak out on the upgrade to 11.10?
[01:52] <isteed> i am looking for a way to install an ISO to my netbook, i do not have a USB drive large enough to holdthe iso
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: you can use the dd command to write 0s to the partition or drive
[01:52] <ShiningGlass> anybody who runs Spotify: are you able to login? update? I get an error when trying to log in, and sudo apt-get update gives me an error, too
[01:52] <Explodingpiglets> ok
[01:53] <share> Explodingpiglets: dban
[01:53] <share> livecd
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> isteed: you can copy the ISO to a small partition on the drive and install grub to the drive to then boot the ISO, you will need a bootable media to set it all up
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> isteed: the ISO is only 700Mb, you can get a 1Gb USB stick for the price of a can of cola
[01:54] <mattwj2002> any ideas?
[01:54] <isteed> ActionParsnip, ah, dont know why i didnt think about that
[01:54] <isteed> i want to install backtrack, its 2 gig, and i am not near a store, and dont want to format my 32g drive.
[01:55] <drahst> for some reason, I can start libvirtd with the -d and the -l flag manually and it works fine, but I can't start it with libvirt-bin with the -l flag... I don't know why
[01:55] <georgetso> lucianoloder: oh, problem solved
[01:55] <art__> Hi all, I am transitioned to linux, and continue to be amazed at its simplicity and performance. Windows is officially banned from my house. I have a new hard drive on order, what type of format do I use if the system is to be ubuntu only???
[01:55] <lucianoloder> georgetso: how did you fixed it?
[01:55] <jrib> art__: use ext4
[01:56] <lucianoloder> georgetso: how?
[01:56] <art__> tnx jr.
[01:56] <georgetso> lucianoloder: recovery mode, login as root, shutdown -c(which doesnot work, seemingly), reboot to normal
[01:56] <georgetso> lucianoloder: and bong!
[01:56] <georgetso> lucianoloder: it just worked
[01:56] <mattwj2002> I can't do anything with it because I can't type :(
[01:56] <drahst> anyone have any ideas?
[01:57] <lucianoloder> georgetso: good to hear it!
[01:57] <georgetso> lucianoloder: thanks
[01:57] <lucianoloder> georgetso: ah, your welcome, ...
[01:57] <deithrian> PPPOE is not working after installing the Ubuntu 11.10 64bit live CD... I have and still am using the sudo pppoeconf command to get my internet working... I  updated the system and saw that there is a network-manager update but after reboot the network manager is not "managing" the device, how can i make network manager to work again and is PPPOE fixed in this latest update, and to be frank i think it's moronic to release OS with not working pppoe >_>
[01:58] <lucianoloder> georgetso: i had this problem once, an months later i saw this solution in the man pages, just didnt knew it would work, ..
[01:58] <jdjbmedina> how do i get rid of unity in 11.10 and have gnome3 as my desktop
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | jdjbmedina
[01:58] <xangua> jdjbmedina: unity runs on top of gnome, nonsense ;)
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> deithrian: could add the command in /etc/rc.local   to get it working. Add it above the exit 0 line
[01:58] <swim> does conky still work in ubuntu??
[01:58] <crash1hd> jrib, is something like this better? find ./ -name '.png|.jpg|.tif|.psd|.avi' -exec mv '{}' ./ \;
[01:58] <lucianoloder> georgetso: glad to hear it helped, ..
[01:58] <jdjbmedina> ok so i cant get rid of unity?
[01:58] <|Slacker|> unity would be a lot better if written from scratch to run over X
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> swim: i'd imagine so
[01:59] <jrib> crash1hd: does it work? ;)
[01:59] <lucianoloder> georgetso: good luck with your server, ..
[01:59] <georgetso> lucianoloder: anyway, thanks for the hint
[01:59] <crash1hd> jrib, no idea not going to run something that I am not sure is going to work
[01:59] <lucianoloder> georgetso: your welcome, ..
[01:59] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I have all my important data there
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: that'd be a good move, plus lighter
[01:59] <crash1hd> dont want to break it
[01:59] <jrib> crash1hd: change your mv to echo
[01:59] <deithrian> ActionParsnip, if i add this command on a fresh install from the live CD will pppoe work? So i don't have to break network manager with pppoeconf?
[01:59] <|Slacker|> ActionParsnip, for sure
[01:59] <swim> ActionParsnip i've followed several "tutorials" and now i can't even get the basic ugly default one to start up from terminal
[01:59] <crash1hd> jrib, ok :)
[01:59] <diego_> anyone knows glut library?
[01:59] <diego_> glut.h?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> deithrian: try it, its easy to take back out again ;)
[01:59] <art__> seems like many are reporting issues with 11.10-should I avoid it by continuing to run 11.04 (in Xubuntu)
[02:00] <isteed> ActionParsnip, so, if i boot from my usb drive, set up a small partition, i can make grub boot from that partition containing my ISO, correct? or would i need to extract the iso into the partition?
[02:00] <lucianoloder> georgetso: wow, i know how it feels, ..
[02:00] <tabunet> Hi Goode evening everybody! ;)
[02:00] <|Slacker|> art__, xubuntu 11.10 rocks
[02:00] <swim> is there any other system monitors that run on the desktop like conky that anybody else would recommend??
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> isteed: yes, much like copying the WIN98 to the system partiton in Windows (old school)
[02:00] <jrib> crash1hd: as you're likely finding out at this point,  you can't use name like that.  Either use several expressions of the form « -name '*.jpg' » separated by « -or » or use « -regex »
[02:01] <lucianoloder> georgetso: my HD started to fail and all my photos were there, a few months ago, ...
[02:01] <drahst> anyone have any clues why I can start a job by kicking off the daemon options manually but after adding it to the /etc/default/daemon file, the changs don't take?
[02:01] <isteed> ActionParsnip, +1 for oldschool solutions. thank you, im out for now.
[02:01] <lucianoloder> georgetso: that scaried me, ..
[02:01] <ksum> gkrellm works very well
[02:01] <crash1hd> jrib, I would guess it doesnt as well nothing happened
[02:01] <crash1hd> jrib, right
[02:01] <efpc2003> swim: gkrellm
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> swim: you could use gdesklets and junk.
[02:03] <art__> Slacker___, I installed 11.10 over an existing 11.04, it ran very slow for some reason-perhaps I'll do a fresh install of 11.10 when my new d4rive arrives.
[02:03] <|Slacker|> art__, I had the same problem, but it got way bette after a fresh install
[02:03] <swim> ActionParsnip, are those any good?
[02:04] <georgetso> lucianoloder: you take them back?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> swim: i dont use stuff like that. I dislike desktop clutter like that. My system runs fine so CPU/RAM usage isn't interesting to me
[02:04] <pdq> swim: conky working here in unity/gnome-shell
[02:05] <art__> slacker___, did you ever figure out WHY it slowed down???? I'll do the fresh install, which some users on the forum reccomend.
[02:05] <lucianoloder> georgetso: I copied all my data to another HD before it stop working at all, ..
[02:05] <jdjbmedina> when i login to gnome my letters are scrambled
[02:05] <swim> ActionParsnip i understand..  i'm using old equipment and just want to keep an eye on it..  i'm a sucker for old systems
[02:05] <r-endo> aaa
[02:05] <r-endo> ああああ
[02:05] <r-endo> hello
[02:05] <lucianoloder> georgetso: but i was tense for one day or two, untill i copied all data, ..
[02:05] <FloodBot1> r-endo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <crash1hd> jrib, like this find ./ -name '*.png' -or '*.jpg' -exec echo '{}' ./ \; ?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> swim: same, but they are configured well :)
[02:05] <|Slacker|> art__, I haven't, I'm just a typical user...I don't waste time debugging
[02:05] <lucianoloder> georgetso: after that i decided to make a backup in DVD, ...
[02:05] <crash1hd> jrib, obviosy not lol as it doesnt work
[02:06] <|Slacker|> I left those for the experts
[02:06] <jrib> crash1hd: that seems like it would work
[02:06] <swim> pdq i could never use unity on this machine..  it's a 2000 era machine with an ancient cpu and graphics card
[02:06] <lucianoloder> georgetso: we always decide to make a backup after some sh*t happens, dont we???
[02:06] <lucianoloder> georgetso:hehehhe
[02:06] <jrib> crash1hd: you need a "-name" after your "-or"
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> swim: what CPU and RAM amount does it have?
[02:06] <crash1hd> jrib, ahh
[02:06] <crash1hd> jrib, how would I do it with regx
[02:06] <diego_> anyone knows glut library?
[02:07] <diego_> glut.h?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: use iname instead of name too (makes it case [i]nsensitive)
[02:07] <swim> well, i have put a gb of rum, but it's one of those 1.4ghz pentium mobile cpu's
[02:07] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, thanks
[02:07] <swim> ram, not rum...
[02:07] <pdq> mmm rum :]
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> swim: mmmm tasty rum
[02:07]  * ActionParsnip hi5s pdq
[02:07] <pdq> :D
[02:07] <swim> ActionParsnip, idk why i said that, i like scotch
[02:08] <art__> slacker___, I'm a newbee and get snowed by technobabble......but linux is way ahead in terms of simplicity and troubleshooting/repairs.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> swim: i have similar and run KDE, runs ok. The nvidia 6150 onboard helps a lot :)
[02:08] <art__> any ham radio operators aboard????
[02:09] <|Slacker|> art__, that's for sure
[02:09] <semitones> why is it called ham radio
[02:09] <semitones> its not tasty like ham
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> swim: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/system-monitor-indicator-puts-cpu-and.html  may help too
[02:10] <swim> ActionParsnip..  hmm, i haven't tried a kde environment in a few years...  i used to use xfce and lxde all the time, but i've missed my gnome 2.x
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> swim: add the ppa (it supports oneiric) and install indicator-sysmonitor
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> swim: I love LXDE
[02:10] <art__> slacker___, I am running 2 old computers, both of which are obsolete and are nearly usless for windows.....but, linux runs great in them. Linux saved me 5 or 6 hundred dollars by allowing me to hang onto old computers.
[02:10] <pdq> swim, syspeek indicator is also nice
[02:10] <swim> cool, thanks ActionParsnip..
[02:10] <mindsystem> hey guys, is there a way i can export the package list for all xubuntu-x64 packages (links preferred), download them on another computer, and then reinstall from aptitude on the x64 computer? i'm having troubles with it and i can't connect to the network on it atm...
[02:11] <swim> thanks pdq
[02:11] <Starminn> How can I (if at all possible) move the window control buttons to the left-hand side in Gnome-Shell on 11.10. gconf-editor does not appear to be a valid command when attempted to run through ALT+F2
[02:11] <jrib> !offline | mindsystem
[02:11] <|Slacker|> art__, cool dude!
[02:11] <crash1hd> hmm something is wrong I only get the last .jpeg thats all find ./ -iname '*.png' -or -iname '*.jpg' -or -iname '*.tif' -or -iname '*.psd' -or -iname '*.avi' -or -iname '*.mpg' -or -iname '*.mpeg' -or -iname '*.jpeg' -exec echo '{}' ./ \;
[02:11] <art__> semitones___, not sure why it's called ham radio.....
[02:12] <lucianoloder> mindsystem: I never used it, but all packages you install remains in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:12] <lucianoloder> mindsystem: you could "maybe" reinstall all of them from this repository
[02:12] <lucianoloder> mindsystem: maybe with "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/*.deb
[02:13] <jrib> crash1hd: group your -name's in escaped parentheses « \( \) ».  Note the -regex solution is a bit easier...
[02:13] <art__> slacker___,reusing old hardware is the ultimate from of recycling......
[02:13] <mindsystem> accidentally cleaned it. also, i'm stuck running in recovery mode (no gui)...
[02:13] <lucianoloder> mindsystem:there should be a cleaner form, maybe look at the apt or dpkg man pages, ..
[02:13] <Generalcamo> hello
[02:14] <ssfdre38> !APTonCD
[02:14] <art__> slacker___, I haven't been on irc since about 1996-------I thought it was obsolete!!!!
[02:14] <Generalcamo> how do I switch to a different server with xchat gnome?
[02:15] <jrib> art__: welcome to ~/ubuntu_quotes :)
[02:15] <Generalcamo> Oh
[02:15] <Generalcamo> Never mind
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: /server servername
[02:15] <Generalcamo> I do not like the interface of oneiric
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: if you switch DE it will be different
[02:16] <pdq> Starminn, hmm gconf-editor working here, i upgraded to 11.10. can find the window controls in /desktop/gnome/shell/windows - i dunno why the editor won't launch though :o
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: Unity/Gnome is not the only interface in Oneiric
[02:16] <Generalcamo> How do I change it?
[02:16] <scorpio> Hi, I'm having trouble with a custom luncher. I cant for the life of me find a way to keep the terminal open after it has executed the command
[02:16] <Generalcamo> I only had two appearence options
[02:16] <Starminn> pdq, Where is your base directory in that?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: sudo apt-get install xfce4   or:  sudo apt-get install lxde
[02:16] <Starminn> pdq, Oh, or is that your path to the options in gconf?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: then log off then when you log in, select the new session
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: there are lots of desktops to choose from
[02:17] <nocturnal_> unity just doesn't feel right on a desktop for me. a tablet i think would work well but for some reason i feel like im reaching over myself to start something
[02:17] <pdq> options path. i start configuration editor via synapse
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: I use KDE here, works fine, no unity
[02:17] <nocturnal_> ActionParsnip: kde4 or 3.5?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal_: if you hold down superL, you can launch stuff using the shortcut numbers you see ;)
[02:18] <lucianoloder> well, i have to go
[02:18] <lucianoloder> bye
[02:18] <nocturnal_> ActionParsnip: i'm on server. but ill try that next time im on unity
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal_: 4.7 is default in Oneiric
[02:18] <Starminn> pdq, Alright, well I installed it. Searching it in the USC another reviewer also says it's not included by default. I did a clean reinstall though so this may contribute to it
[02:19] <nathanel> hola amigos! question: which is the best login manager for enlightenment17?
[02:19] <nathanel> something that would be compatible
[02:19] <nathanel> lightdm is being a b*****
[02:20] <pdq> Starminn, ya. i'm not much help with troubleshooting gconf editor to work :P
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: gdm, kdm and slim are 3 I can think of quickly
[02:20] <nathanel> slim?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> !info slim
[02:20] <nathanel> is it clean and fuss free?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: pretty much
[02:20] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: is it clean and fuss free?
[02:21] <Starminn> pdq, Oh, it works fine now and I found it in just the place you said it would be. But just so you're aware, I'm assuming that on clean installs (such as myself, and I *assume* the sole reviewer) gconf-editor may not be present. Wasn't for me anyway, but a simple search for it in USC "gconf-editor" found its way home to me. :)
[02:21] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: i'm looking on avoiding the stupid session error lightdm privides when you change some little default
[02:22] <pdq> Starminn, aha cool :) i was thinking you had installed it but not working
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: try it is all I can advise, its pretty obediant
[02:22] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: okidoki sir
[02:22] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_login_manager
[02:23] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: one more thing: do you think installing a server image and loading the required essentials would be better for a pandaboard? I find the default is pretty bloated
[02:23] <Starminn> pdq, Oh, no no no lol. What happened was I brought up the Run dialog and it just said, "Command not found". I'm going to assume you guys will be receiving this question a lot in the coming weeks as more and more people experiment with Gnome Shell from Unity backgrounds.
[02:24] <Starminn> pdq, Anyway, tanks for your help! I'm off. :)
[02:25] <nocturnal_> is html5 the future for mobile applications?
[02:26] <kim__> newbie here.  Using Ubuntu 11.10.  How do I start the archiver with graphical sudo?
[02:27] <tp43> #asp
[02:28] <aeon-ltd> kim__: archiver? graphical sudo --> gksudo?
[02:29] <aeon-ltd> kim__: if the application is called 'archiver' a launcher/script with 'gksudo archiver' should be fine
[02:32] <aeon-ltd> kim__: firstly, what is archiver? do you have a link or anything?
[02:32] <kim__> aeon-ltd: I mean the Archive Manager that comes with Unity
[02:33] <bindi> hey, how can I get my system to install all updates needed at 4:00 and reboot if necessary?
[02:34] <soupeee> I've got a 900A EEE with only a 4G SSD and 8GSD card. Oneiric is too big for it. What's the best ubuntu-like distro for it?
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> kim__: file roller?, also are you using gnome?
[02:35] <kim__> I'm using Unity, but yes it's called the file roller
[02:35] <kim__> message above was for aeon-ltd
[02:36] <hoverbear> Hey all, how can I check for failed boot services? (I know something is failing but am not sure what) Which log file?
[02:36] <dr_willis> soupeee:  lubuntu is nice
[02:36] <aeon-ltd> soupeee: server supposedly takes up 1gb, plus install X then a WM + gui apps + swap file(depending on ram you may not need it if you don't use hibernate) and your 4gb is mostly filled up then 8gb for storage etc
[02:37] <JRandolph> Is the torrent tracker down?
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> kim__: gksudo file-roller
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> :)
[02:37] <soupeee> aeon-ltd: what distro? lubuntu?
[02:37] <kim__> aeon-ltd: thanks!
[02:37] <urlin2u> soupeee, if you put oneiric in the 8 gig it should fit, tere is not much difference in sizes in ubuntu release inspite of the desktops, I doubt even a gig difference in install size.
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> soupeee: ubuntu server, my suggestion is a lot of work though, prob 45mins
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> kim__: did it work?
[02:38] <urlin2u> there*
[02:38] <xue> my computer has  no sound  when I update to 11.10
[02:38] <aeon-ltd> urlin2u: 8gb sd card - there will be read/write constraints
[02:39] <urlin2u> aeon-ltd, like what?
[02:39] <kim__> aeon-ltd: sure did, thanks!
[02:39] <aeon-ltd> urlin2u: limited by the sd cards read/write speed.
[02:40] <aeon-ltd> depending on it's class
[02:40] <guanerpao> wo
[02:40] <pico_> hi
[02:40] <urlin2u> aeon-ltd, probably, I was really trying to point out the little diffrence between the size of lubuntu compared to ubuntu really.
[02:41] <guanerpao> 有人吗
[02:41] <pico_> I am trying to install ubuntu server 11.10 on a hardware raid1 but I see two disks at the Partition disks menu and I'm not sure what to do
[02:42] <lyle> anybody have any experience configuring joysticks? i was pretty sure i'd done it correctly, but my dude keeps going to the left =\
[02:42] <oh_no> 中文频道是ubuntu-cn
[02:43] <hoverbear> Bahaha. Does the current laptop-mode-utils package for 11.10 not support kernel 3.x? It tosses errors.
[02:43] <guanerpao> 不会用
[02:43] <isteed> okay, so i have my regular user partition, my partition i want to install a new OS to, and smaller partition with an ISO inside i would like to boot from, how do i google for help making grub boot the iso off the HD
[02:43] <AsSlowAsHell> is there any quick easy way to disable temperature shutdown? it looks like when this laptop gets a little warm ubuntu does a forces clean shutdown -- extremely annoying
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> lyle: there is an app on playdeb which can help with joysticks
[02:44] <lyle> ActionParsnip, is that so, i haven't used playdeb before
[02:44] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: Generally when your laptop starts overheating it's a good idea to shutdown.
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> lyle: its badass, lots of games there too
[02:44] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, spare me the lecutre, i know the heatsink needs a cleaning and its a laptop i got from the garbage so, too lazy to take it apart and clean it right now
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> lyle: cd; wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[02:45] <AsSlowAsHell> i just want a simple answer, not alternate recommenations
[02:45] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: Not giving any lecture. Just making a snarky remark.
[02:45] <NotJimCarrey> anyone figured out a way to play bluray discs yet?
[02:45] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, agreed
[02:45] <vimojnguoi> #ubuntu-vn :D
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> lyle: you can run:  sudo apt-get update   and you are ready to rock. You can use: http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/   and click the install button, the thing you select will then install :)
[02:45] <pico_> Anyone able to help me with installing ubuntu 11.10 server on a raid1 setup?
[02:46] <ubuntu__> Hi
[02:46] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, laptops are "smart" enough to insta shut off when their temps are too high in my experience.  I don't need ubuntu lowering this ceiling even further
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> NotJimCarrey: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[02:48] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: Tell that to my prof's HP. Fried itself in his bag when it woke up from timer. Was pretty halarious
[02:48] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, you tell him for me
[02:48] <lyle> ActionParsnip, thanks i'm trying this out now
[02:49] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: I blame him :-P
[02:51] <s1> pico_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[02:51] <pico_> s1, i dont want to use softwareRaid when i can use hardware though
[02:52] <nowimproved1> has anyone played braid, i have GeForce FX 5200 and the game crashes instantly when i start it like on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1648946
[02:52] <Tehrandumb> you say that, until your raid card dies and you cant find an identical one to replace it
[02:52] <Tehrandumb> and your raid is gone forever
[02:52] <pico_> i never thought of it that way
[02:52] <pico_> i will try it, thanks
[02:53] <guanerpao> alias
[02:53] <Tehrandumb> it's a higher cpu load, but who doesnt have CPU power to burn these days?
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> Tehrandumb: when it's being used for processing. :)
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Tehrandumb: i dont
[02:54] <guanerpao> alias cpu
[02:54] <brandonc503> so in latest ubuntu, where do i find the user and group lst
[02:56] <guanerpao> alias ls
[02:56] <UnknownUser00> in 11.10 i dont have a /boot/grub/menu, or a /boot/grub/grub.conf, how do i edit the menu at boot time?
[02:56] <guanerpao> alias cat
[02:56] <aeon-ltd> guanerpao: are you in the wrong app or something?
[02:57] <aeon-ltd> UnknownUser00: boot get to grub then  'e' unless it's changed in grub2
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: do you mean the groups a user is in?
[02:57] <guanerpao> grub
[02:57] <brandonc503> actually the users in a group
[02:57] <aeon-ltd> !cn
[02:57] <UnknownUser00> aeon-ltd, will that make the changes stay? or will i have to do that each time at boot?
[02:58] <aeon-ltd> that's only at boot time
[02:58] <Atharva> Hi..Is there any LAN video chat software for ubuntu ?
[02:58] <zivester> anyone here have any experience with mdadm and a raid 5 that had a disk kicked out?
[02:59] <guanerpao> zai
[02:59] <kasansweat> Some (but not all) GTK apps don't obey theme rules (set by lxappearance or dconf)  in non standard WMs (eg Awesome) after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10. Any ideas?
[03:01] <coro> Hey, quick question: How do I change the font on a default Ubuntu 11.10 install WITHOUT downloading extra packages?
[03:01] <guanerpao> lkasdfj
[03:02] <dr_willis> perhaps via the gconf editor coro
[03:02] <coro> dr_willis: thanks, but they no longer include gconf-editor with the install
[03:02] <guanerpao> 怎么用
[03:02] <kasansweat> coro: good question, I think both our questions really speak to the huge mistake(s) canonical made this time around.
[03:02] <oh_no> guanerpao, 你只要右击#ubuntu-cn，再点击进入频道就能进入ubuntu的中文频道，请不要在这里捣乱
[03:03] <coro> kasansweat: I know. there are NO configuration tools available
[03:03] <coro> maybe I just don't know what they're called.. but I can't tweak anything that I want to tweak
[03:03] <johnjohn101> when does magnification come to the unity bar?
[03:04] <guanerpao> 不知道点那里
[03:04] <kasansweat> it's really frustrating. I *teach* a linux course and now I'm in the position of possibly having to choose another default distro for the class.
[03:04] <dr_willis> !info gconftool
[03:04] <oh_no> guanerpao,  #ubuntu-cn
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: install members package and you can then run:  members groupname
[03:05] <dr_willis> !find gconftool
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> coro: Gnome3 uses dconf-editor
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !info dconf-editor
[03:05] <smw> kasansweat, is it because of unity/gnome3?
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !info dconf-tools
[03:05] <dr_willis> i ws thinking it was dconf now also
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> coro: just because you don't know of them, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[03:06] <coro> ActionParsnip: I figured. A lot has changed since the last version. I assume they wouldn't just release a distro with no config tools
[03:07] <johnjohn101> unity doesn't need to be configured.  it's perfect
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> coro: assuming makes an ASS or U and ME
[03:07] <erick> hello
[03:07] <lorin`> kasansweat: try a gtk3 theme? adwaita, zukitwo, greybird etc. not many choices but gtk2 themes look like garbage in 11.10
[03:07] <dr_willis> nail the defaults.. worry about confuging later
[03:07] <kasansweat> smw -- I'm pretty sure they are due to that.
[03:08] <dr_willis> the 700 mb cd limit it getting to be an annoyance for ubuntu users.
[03:08] <kasansweat> lorin: it's a different problem that I'm talking about -- I select the Dust theme, for example -- Firefox obeys it, Leafpad obeys it, Pidgin mostly obeys it:  But Nautilus and Gwibber ignore it entirely.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 12Mb is enough here ;)
[03:10] <xangua> kasansweat: because nautilus and gwibber are gtk3 apps
[03:10] <dr_willis> gtk2 vs gtk3 apps perhaps
[03:10] <miki_> dvd-rw records 4.7 gb
[03:10] <kasansweat> xangua / dr_willis, that's what I figured.  So in non-standard WMs, there's just no longer any way to theme GTK3 apps? bleh
[03:11] <xangua> kasansweat: use gtk3 themes for gtk3 apps
[03:11] <xangua> ...
[03:11] <xangua> gnome-look.org some there ;)
[03:11] <kasansweat> xangua -- even when I configure them with dconf, they don't obey the settings -- the font stays standard.
[03:11] <kasansweat> etc
[03:12] <johnjohn101> i really wish i could change the color of my desktop fonts on my unity desktop
[03:13] <brandonc503> when are permissions for a file/folder set? when i extract them from zip to comp?
[03:13] <brandonc503> .zip btw
[03:14] <moonunitzappa> Can anyone tell me how i can get rid of UNITY in 11.10?
[03:14] <spencer_> can someone help me?  hid2hci went missing since yesterday's update...  i've tried /etc/udev/default and enable it and still no go
[03:14] <moonunitzappa> just upgraded
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | moonunitzappa
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: if it's a zip, it will be created as the ownership of the extracter
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: tar can retain the permissions it had when it was created afaik
[03:15] <moonunitzappa> are there any downfalls for NOT using unity in 11.10? seems alot harder than 11.04
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: none, I use KDE and its fine
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: no gtk3, no unity
[03:16] <brandonc503> Can i view what permissions it has while in .zip?
[03:16] <ejv> change is hard :)
[03:17] <moonunitzappa> ActionParsnip, do i want the gnome panel or gnome shell? or both
[03:17] <smw> moonunitzappa, classic ubuntu is gone
[03:17] <moonunitzappa> any way i can go back to 11.04?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: try then, see which you prefer
[03:17] <smw> moonunitzappa, gnome-shell is the aweful interface introduced by gnome (as opposed to the aweful one released by ubuntu)
[03:17] <ejv> sure download the iso and isntall it
[03:17] <ejv> install even
[03:18] <kasansweat> Related question: what does Lubuntu currently have running under the hood? Any Unity/Gnome3 there?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: reinstall is the only way back. If you install xfce4 you can use that instead and keep the newer OS
[03:18] <smw> moonunitzappa, I am so far pretty happy with lxde
[03:18] <smw> moonunitzappa, it has some rough edges... but it works :-)
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> kasansweat: it uses gtk3 but uses LXDE instead of gnome desktop and openbox as WM instead of compiz
[03:18] <moonunitzappa> nice
[03:18] <ejv> the l in lubuntu im pretty sure stands for lxde
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> ejv: correct ;)
[03:19] <ejv> it was nearly sarcastic
[03:19] <ejv> lol
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> ejv: haha
[03:19] <moonunitzappa> i think im gonna try and get use to unity for a few days.  tried it before and hated it.
[03:19] <kasansweat> Hmm.  thing is, I use Awesome -- but i'm not trying to have to configure every little thing myself; i'd still rather have apt, etc.
[03:19] <smw> kasansweat, lubuntu steals from gnome, xfce, and puts it on an lxde base.
[03:19] <ejv> i hit my head on the desk when people ask things a simple google search will illuminate
[03:20] <johnjohn101> xcfe is pretty good. unity isn't that bad now
[03:20] <spencer_> anyone uses logitech mx5500 keyboard??
[03:20] <cowslammer> what application is used for copying/burning movies?
[03:20] <ejv> really cowslammer?
[03:20] <SomeoneWeird> lolol
[03:20] <cowslammer> ejv really what?
[03:21] <ejv> if these are home videos of the children, i'd try k3b
[03:21] <bindi> children?
[03:21]  * bindi notifies the authorities
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> ejv: it happens man, just push through
[03:21] <ejv> feels like im giving birth!
[03:21] <ejv> :D
[03:22] <dynamics> how do I open terminal?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: k9copy can rip DVDs afaik
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> !info k9copy
[03:22] <dynamics> how do I log in as root
[03:22] <ejv> you could technically copy using dd
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you dont
[03:22] <dynamics> really?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: if you need a root console, just run:  sudo -i
[03:23] <ejv> i login as root all the time
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: the account is disabled for a billion good reasons
[03:23] <dynamics> where do I run it from
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> ejv: its not advised, supported or necessary
[03:23] <ejv> but my environment is rather unique...
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: a terminal
[03:23] <dynamics> i wasn't asking you ejv
[03:23] <dynamics> whats that?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: just use sudo and gksudo when you need extra power, user access is sufficient for every day tasks
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: what is what?
[03:24] <ejv> ActionParsnip: yea i know, just saves me a step at bootup :)
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> ejv: what is this step?
[03:25] <bindi> ActionParsnip: reminds me of a guy who did a guide for installing nvidia drivers.... (note: you should never do this) sudo bash -> change root password -> ctrl+alt+f1 and log in with root, THEN run the nvidia installer as root..
[03:25] <dynamics> k I google sudo -i it says sudo -s
[03:25] <dynamics> whats the diff?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: both are fine
[03:25] <ejv> ActionParsnip: decryption
[03:26] <bindi> i told him he could have just ran the installer with sudo
[03:26] <dynamics> kk so how do I open terminal?
[03:26] <bindi> he decided to ignore my advice
[03:26] <ejv> applications -> something or other -> terminal
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> ejv: ive not had to decrpt anything here so couldnt comment on that. Lots of users use encryptfs etc and dont log in as root
[03:26] <cixtor> Can use: sudo -u USERNAME COMMAND too
[03:27] <dynamics> not sure what it is
[03:27] <ejv> ActionParsnip: yea im unique, although i use sudo for everything else, once the system is loaded
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: its in dash. For most tasks you wont need terminal at all, the OS will simply ask you for your login password if it needs extra powers
[03:27] <johnjohn101> wow, they ended k9copy
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: basically, if you forget about root, you'll be fine
[03:27] <ejv> dd can copy well... anything
[03:28] <dynamics> it says i need it
[03:28] <celltech> 11.10. Where's the update manager? :)
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: k9copy site has an update which says: Published on Sunday, 24 July 2011
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: shame :(
[03:29] <cixtor> celltech: $ update-manager
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: k9copy is in the repos though
[03:29] <celltech> Thank you
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> !info k9copy
[03:29] <dynamics> do you need to use antivirus software on ubuntu?
[03:29] <johnjohn101> actionparsnip. i guess it will work for a while
[03:29] <dr_willis> dynamics:  not really
[03:30] <dynamics> really?
[03:30] <dynamics> how do I know I get virus?
[03:30] <djjoel> u didnt use a condom
[03:30] <dr_willis> user doing stupid things normslly
[03:30] <johnjohn101> k9copy is in synaptic
[03:30] <dynamics> oh
[03:30] <dynamics> so I wrap condom on router?
[03:30] <SomeoneWeird> lol
[03:30] <dynamics> it protect me
[03:30] <SomeoneWeird> ofc
[03:30] <dr_willis> k9copy used to be there
[03:31] <celltech> I uninstalled Paul Mcenery or whatever for libimobile and it killed my computer. I was stuck on the checking battery screen all day
[03:31] <cixtor> Who know how to update the icon's database "/usr/share/applications/desktop.en_US.utf8.cache" manually
[03:31] <djjoel> no u put the condom over your head and nose then you blow with your nose until you hear a popping sound and feel a snapping sensation on the top of your head along with mild absolute blindless and a feeling of absolute idiocy
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> !av
[03:32] <johnjohn101> then you'll be ready for gnome3-shell?
[03:32] <dynamics> wow. thats pretty cool
[03:32] <celltech> Speaking of. How do I activate classic desktop without the visualizations?
[03:32] <djjoel> then you'll be ready to party.
[03:32] <djjoel> I'm looking for a rap song maybe dubstep about pepperoni does anyone know where I can find that?
[03:32] <dynamics> no all i need is to get rid of this stupid dock that keeps hiding things on the left side
[03:32] <Atharva> !ot
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> djjoel: wrong channel dude
[03:33] <Tohuw> !offtopic|djj
[03:33] <dynamics> great idea that was!
[03:33] <djjoel> o
[03:33] <djjoel> ok
[03:33] <djjoel> my bad my bad i apologize
[03:33] <cixtor> celltech: window-manager --replace, example: metacity --replace
[03:33] <Atharva> !enter
[03:33] <xgt001> hello i suddenly get  logged off and get back to lightdm screen when i use 11.9 catalyst driver in ubuntu 11.10...what may be the problem?
[03:33] <djjoel> ubottu even you are a bot I thank you for your advice as I haven't been on IRC in a while, and you guys too! :D
[03:33] <celltech> command not found
[03:34] <djjoel> dynamics i think im having the same problem
[03:34] <dynamics> do you all know if there is a way to move the dock thingy that keeps pooping out the left side
[03:34] <Tohuw> xgt001: What does dmesg say?
[03:34] <Tohuw> dynamics: at this time, the Unity dock is not very customizable in a user-friendly way.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: its not movable yet
[03:34] <djjoel> I want my classic view back (i dont know if thats what you want too dynamics?), i also installed gnome-tweak via the terminal and now i cant launch/find it
[03:35] <Theory_> xgt001 it is a known problem, I got it too...possibly a driver bug ? 11.9 drivers are very bad drivers right know for Oneiric
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | djjoel
[03:35] <xgt001> Theory_, you too confirm the issue?
[03:35] <johnjohn101> theory_ what drivers load with 11.10 for catalyst?
[03:35] <Theory_> yup
[03:36] <dynamics> me too. I love classic. was a real desktop and I really enjoyed it. I like that ubuntu is becoming more user friendly but man its ugly and slow!
[03:36] <Tohuw> djjoel: Many of the things gnome-tweak-tool do are not as relevant to a Unity environment. However, to run it, press alt+f2 and type gnome-tweak-tool and press enter. For the rest of your question, see ubottu's message.
[03:36] <johnjohn101> theory_: so if i have ati, wait to update ubuntu?
[03:36] <dynamics> I am going to go back to 11.04 till they get rid of this crap.
[03:37] <Tohuw> dynamics: opinions. I find Unity perfectly acceptable and responsive, and a better UI than Gnome 2. Also, they will not get rid of  Unity. If you truly hate it, try another distro or just remove Unity.
[03:37] <farrukhjon> hi all help with Card Reader. My Ubuntu 10.04 shows in Nautilus Generic Card Reader but i can't enter to the ? what i need to do ?
[03:37] <Theory_> personally i removed the 11.9...and went for fglrx...way more stable,but without a support for dual screen at least without creating your own xconf file..anyway Ati with Linux is pain since day 1
[03:37] <pdq> why not just install a dockbar/task manager you like dynamics? can do that within unity or gnome-shell or even install something like xfce or kde :)
[03:37] <dynamics> well maybe you mac fans should just buy a mac and leave ubuntu alone
[03:38] <pdq> cairo menu works great with awn
[03:38] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you connect to an NFS share?
[03:38] <almoxarife> awn?
[03:38] <djjoel> Tohuw i found the gnome-tweak in the alt+f2 menu but enter doesnt do anything and the buttons neither.
[03:38] <pdq> avant window navigator
[03:38] <tensorpudding> dynamics, you can use gnome-shell instead if you want
[03:38] <Tohuw> djjoel: "Many of the things gnome-tweak-tool do are not as relevant to a Unity environment."
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: what has mac got to do with it?
[03:38] <johnjohn101> dynamics, unity has come a long way since 11.04
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: why not just switch to xfce, run AWN and you'll be fine
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: gnome isn't the only desktop you know....
[03:39] <dynamics> this is like a copy of Mac osx. Apple should sue ubuntu like they are trying google.
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: its not, the mac dock is on the bottom, unity's is on the left
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: for a start
[03:39] <dynamics> lol
[03:39] <djjoel> Tohuw I'm a newbie to ubuntu and anything but windows I'll admit it. What should i do to tweak my desktop?
[03:39] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: the troll, do not feed it.
[03:39] <almoxarife> one hint to keep sane, make a link to /users/share/applications , everything that has a gui and a use with a gui is there
[03:39] <Tohuw> djjoel: what are you trying to change?
[03:40] <celltech> 11.10 feels lighter than 11.04
[03:40] <dynamics> its still a dock bro
[03:40] <johnjohn101> actionparsnip and the menu options disappear when you are off the window!!
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: if you use a different DE, you wont have unity running, problem solved
[03:40] <djjoel> id like a new look and feel, also maybe my classic view back instead of this popout left menu
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: I eat trolls for brakfast dude
[03:40] <dynamics> i am going back to windows vista
[03:40] <djjoel> dynamicsfail
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: do it then, no need to tell us
[03:40] <dynamics> better and faster. more stable
[03:40] <djjoel> lol he joking
[03:40] <Tohuw> dynamics: one statement, then I have nothing else to comment on: OS X did not invent the dock. Unity's dock is markedly different than OS X's dock. QED.
[03:40] <cpgo> im on ubuntu 11.10 and after restarting I cant get to login screen anymore, I have two issues - one says cannot mount a drive and I press s to skip, then my screen just starts to flash
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: try xfce, I think you'll find it to your tastes
[03:41] <almoxarife> vista? good choice, better yet, win 3.1
[03:41] <johnjohn101> dynamics, get the windows 8 preview!!
[03:41] <dynamics> no
[03:41] <Theory_> cairo dock works the same way osx dock does...whats up with these docks these days....Openbox anyone ? :P
[03:41] <dynamics> how?
[03:41] <djjoel> better yet use the ps3 and surf internet dynamics!!
[03:41] <djjoel> or just surf via cell on the G3 NETWORK!
[03:42] <Tohuw> I have a dream that one day, users will understand Ubuntu is truly theirs, and that if they are willing to take the time, they can customize and own it to their heart's content. Until that day, I'll keep honing my skim-reading skills.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: so you'd change to an earlier release, just because the DE you have is not to your likeing, despite the fact you can change it, and easily?
[03:42] <spencer_> anyone uses logitech mx5500 keyboard??
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: thats really ignorant dude
[03:42] <Tohuw> !anyone| spencer_
[03:42] <djjoel> Tohuw: I know I can do it to! It's proLLy just a click away too... or a terminal command :)?
[03:42] <dynamics> why change something that worked?
[03:42] <dynamics> change is hard
[03:42] <djjoel> so is life
[03:42] <spencer_> can someone help me?  hid2hci went missing since yesterday's update...  i've tried /etc/udev/default and enable it and still no go
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: Gnome2 has been dropped by the Gnome team
[03:43] <dynamics> forced it on me and I don't like that.
[03:43] <Tohuw> djjoel: I think I missed something there. What did you want to change?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: so Ubuntu movd to what is actively supported rather than a dead project
[03:43] <cpgo> while my screen is flashing I can my video cars fan speed increasing and decreasing very fast
[03:43] <dynamics> lets start a new gnome team
[03:43] <djjoel> My layout something like ThemeXP but for me in ubuntu 11.10!
[03:43] <johnjohn101> gnome is getting an earful from the linux community.
[03:43] <dsnyders> Is it possible to access an NFS share from the places menu, or does it need to be mounted manually?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: check out the 'mate' fork
[03:43] <dynamics> we can do it actionparsnip
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you are demonstrating lack of knowledge dude
[03:43] <djjoel> The defaults just dont do it for me...
[03:43] <Tohuw> djjoel: I'm not sure what ThemeXP is. What specifically are you trying to change?
[03:44] <djjoel> well i want classic ubuntu view back no popout bar
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: why start a new team, when one exists...
[03:44] <dom_1roxtar> I just can't get used to Gnome Shell, yet Unity feels like second nature now
[03:44] <dynamics> this os looks like something on my kids toy leapfrog computer
[03:44] <djjoel> then i would like a nice crystal or metallic theme for the desktop
[03:44] <Tohuw> !unity| djjoel
[03:44] <Theory_> a nice setup : tint2,conky,pcmanfm,openbox  - simple,clutter free minimal desktop
[03:44] <osmosis> what can I use to edit an flv file, chop it down in size?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: then change the DE and it will look different
[03:44] <Tohuw> djjoel: Meant to link you to nounity.
[03:44] <dynamics> what is de?
[03:44] <almoxarife> dsnyders: from unity?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: desktop environment
[03:44] <johnjohn101> xubuntu is fine if you want gnome like de
[03:45] <djjoel> How do I type to people again I'm refreshing my IRC skills
[03:45] <pdq> personally i think gnome-shell desktop environment is very much like classic, once you add awn+dockbarx and cairo menu that is :P
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: look at screenshots of XFCE, LXDE, KDE, Enlightenment. They are all different, don't use Unity and available in Oneiric
[03:45] <Tohuw> djjoel: in most clients, start typing their name and press tab to autocomplete.
[03:45] <pdq> cause thats all thats missing really is the menu that people miss and perhaps their indicators which most have replacements for
[03:45] <johnjohn101> pdq, do you have a screenshot of your desktop
[03:45] <dynamics> do they still have that 666 distro?
[03:45] <jeremy-77> If you got a program the runs in full screen and freezes up how do you force it to quit the program?
[03:45] <pdq> sec
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: the thing you are badmouthing can be CHANGED
[03:45] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: you're missing the part where the user would prefer to complain rather than resolve.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: why not just change the bit you dislike and then be happy
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: we'll get there, education is key :)
[03:46] <dynamics> well maybe your right?
[03:46] <djjoel> Tohuw, ok. Actually first things first. When I updated to this version of ubuntu I cannot run the main version I have to go back to previous versions and run the old one.... which appears as ubuntu 11.10 anyways?
[03:46] <dynamics> not like I paid for it
[03:46] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Unity?  I'm not sure what you mean by that.  I'm running 10.04 (I think) and gnome.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: yes, you are forgetting one of the core principles of Linux distribution. it can be changed
[03:46] <mindsystem> is there a way to make aptitude install from downloaded packages? i'm stuck without a gui after attempting to switch to xubuntu from ubuntu. and i want to follow this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18920/any-way-to-get-a-fresh-ubuntu-desktop-without-re-installing/18993#18993
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: what if you don't like the desktop in Windows, you have no alternative do you?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you get what you are given
[03:47] <almoxarife> dsnyders: got you, places should include 'network/s'
[03:47] <dynamics> yeah and vista was win!
[03:47] <pdq> johnjohn101, http://i.imgur.com/r1Xxs.jpg :P clicked menu so can see
[03:47] <dom_1roxtar> If you don't like Unity on Ubuntu, then get your money back.  Ask for your Ubuntu tax back...Oh, wait....It's Free
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: fine, what if you don't like the desktop in vista and want to change it, what can you do?
[03:48] <djjoel> Tohuw, however, everything seems to be running fine. Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu from within ubuntu?
[03:48] <cixtor> mindsystem: $ sudo dpkg -i -y /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[03:48] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: depends on just how badly it freezes. First try alt+f2. If the run window appears, type gnome-system-monitor and select to end the process. If nothing responds, press ctrl+alt+f2 and login (you'll be in a terminal session). From there run sudo ps ax|grep whateverwasrunning to find the process ID. Then sudo kill x, where x is the process ID you're trying ot kill.
[03:48] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Places->Network, yes?
[03:48] <pdq> but i am not fan of classic taskbar i like a good dock :)
[03:48] <dynamics> install ubuntu lol
[03:48] <almoxarife> dsnyders: that sounds right
[03:48] <Tohuw> djjoel: What do you mean "previous versions"? You have to select an older kernel in GRUB?
[03:48] <djjoel> Tohuw, I fear I may have done some terminal actions in a "top 10 things to do after installing ubuntu" page and some things didnt go as planned
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: no, reply intelligently. What can you do?
[03:48] <johnjohn101> pdq, thanks, that looks great.  -1 C doesn't
[03:49] <djjoel> Tohuw, yES an older version in GRUB
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you want windows vista but dislike the desktop.
[03:49] <dynamics> change the theme
[03:49] <mindsystem> cixtor: i accidentally cleaned the cache a while ago. but i'm working on downing the appropriate packages.
[03:49] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  cool that is what I needed to know. thanks
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you can't change it. You are flat stuck
[03:49] <dynamics> i know. im just messing around about vista
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: in Ubuntu, you have CHOICE. You don't have to use Gnome or Unity
[03:49] <dynamics> thought it would make you all laugh
[03:49] <bindi> actually you can change the theme in vista
[03:49] <Tohuw> djjoel: First lesson: don't copy-paste code or instructions if you aren't completely aware of the effects. This tip will guide you well as you explore.
[03:50] <almoxarife> what happened to 'stay on topic'?
[03:50] <johnjohn101> do you think MATE will ever be done?
[03:50] <Theory_> there are a ways to change the windows shell...first and best is Blackbox,second litestep...at least 2 stable good alts
[03:50] <almoxarife> wtf I give a rats ass about vista?
[03:50] <dsnyders> almoxarife, The server I wish to connect to is there, but it times out with the message "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[03:50] <dom_1roxtar> what do u think of Linux Mint devs working with Gnome 2 fork, MATE?
[03:50] <djjoel> Tohuw, Thats great common sense. What was I thinking?!? I guess I was a little bit excited and trusting...
[03:50] <johnjohn101> once mate is ported to gtk3, argument over
[03:51] <almoxarife> dsnyders: the filesystem you want into is public?
[03:51] <Tohuw> djjoel: If your current kernel is broken, let's try a few things. From terminal, let's update your sources so we can get the latest information on what can be upgraded. Type sudo apt-get update and press enter.
[03:51] <cpgo> im on ubuntu 11.10 and after restarting I cant get to login screen anymore, I have two issues - one says cannot mount a drive and I press s to skip, then my screen just starts to flash
[03:51] <dom_1roxtar> Elementary OS looks promising too
[03:51] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  my WOW game froze and I tried to alt tab but couldn't get out. the mouse would change but could not get back to main desktop. finally hit the sleep button on keyboard and woke pc back and then was able to kill wow.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you can have your desktop look like this: http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/8.10-upgrade/upgrade3-wee.png    or this: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/S9MdKHIUWZI/AAAAAAAAA5Q/cwrPAhdbtG8/lubuntu-beta3-screenshot.png
[03:51] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Are you suggesting that if I can't see it, it ain't public?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: see how absolutely changable it is?
[03:52] <dsnyders> almoxarife, I'll have to look into that.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: see how DRASTICALLY changable the deskto pis
[03:52] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: It seems a number of people have had odd problems with WoW in Linux. I have seen a few people suggest disabling all power saving or going so far as to remove ACPI from the kernel at start, which seems an unworthy trade-off for a game in my mind.
[03:52] <almoxarife> dsnyders: ok
[03:52] <djjoel> Tohuw, Done, next step? :)
[03:52] <dynamics> yeah...how i do that?
[03:52] <cixtor> mindsystem: dont worry, you can install any package from any location on your system with: dpkg, try to use comodin (*) to force the "Deb Package" install the deps (this dont work in all cases, but you can try it)
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: install a different desktop, its a package like any other
[03:53] <dynamics> k. so where do I start to look for a new one?
[03:53] <pdq> ActionParsnip,  is it good to recommend sites like webupd8?
[03:53] <johnjohn101> dynamics,  you should install puppy to get JWM
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you can get the 2nd one by installing LXDE, logging off then choosing lxde as your session, the first one is KDE and you can install plasma-dekstop in software center and chosse kde as the session
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> pdq: its just for the image
[03:54] <Tohuw> djjoel: Now, let's see what updates there are out there, because there's a chance a new kernel may be available, or that a patches are available that will inadvertantly fix your kernel. We're not going to jump on reinstalling the kernel package just yet. In terminal, type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. This command upgrades the system with the available packages, even if some new packages ask for removal of existing packages.
[03:54] <pdq> i just mean, i found lots of these kinda questions with good how tos there
[03:54] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  i have not had many problems with wow in 10.04 but 11.04 and 11.10 are super buggy and had many problems so I will stick with stable 10.04
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> pdq: webupd8 have some pretty decent guides too :)
[03:54] <pdq> yeppers
[03:54] <Theory_> openbox thats all i have to say :P
[03:55] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: Sorry to hear you are having issues with stability in regards to WoW. I have found the core, supported aspects of both versions (10.10-11.10) to be quite stable overall.
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: so all this "boo hoo I'm going back to vista" crap just doesn't hold any value at all
[03:55] <farrukhjon> Hi guys! I created a local repository, how to give access to another user, I gave the public access to that folder. What should be written in the sources in other systems ?
[03:55] <djjoel> Tohuw, Oh yea baby, you're dirty with it! More! Give me more! :)
[03:56] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  maybe its my hardware ?
[03:56] <pdq> with all the choices out there evryone has there favorite setups. i've never been a fan of any default install setup
[03:56] <leapfrog> I was joking about vista bro
[03:56] <johnjohn101> at least ubuntu has unity. can't imagine how sick fedora users will be
[03:56] <adminewb> their favorite setups
[03:56] <djjoel> Tohuw, I'm writing this all down thanks!
[03:57] <hawkeye> ?
[03:57] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: Perhaps. If you're using ATI, their proprietary driver seems to have worsened for many people.
[03:57] <celltech> I love gtkorphan :D
[03:58] <celltech> remove orphaned packages to help clean up the system and make it more efficient
[03:58] <Dracofodder> I just accidentally deleted the wally applet from my panel on ubuntu 10.10, now when it starts I have no way to change configuration. I've tried deleting the .wally directory and restarting, but it not coming back. is there a way to retrieve this? reset the gnome panel app perhaps?
[03:58] <hawkeye> android tether with wifi how do i mack it work in 11.10
[03:58] <hugenumber> would anyone be able to assist me with a cmos question?
[03:59] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  im running radeon hd 2600xt with 11.9 catalyst
[03:59] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Turns out that the nfs daemon wasn't running on the server.
[03:59] <almoxarife> dsnyders: fixed then?
[03:59] <Tohuw> djjoel: After you update, try asking GRUB to reconfigure. It could be it is pointing to an invalid kernel altogether. From terminal: sudo grub-mkconfig && sudo update-grub. These two commands ask GRUB to make a configuration file from the parts in /etc/default and /etc/grub, and then update grub with this new configuration.
[04:00] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  I am getting 30 to 50 fps in uncrowded areas and 19 to 20 in crowded places or cities
[04:00] <celltech> sudo ? for start up apps to disable
[04:00] <hawkeye> android tether how do i make it work on 11.10
[04:00] <Tohuw> djjoel: If you still cannot boot into the kernel after that, find the package associated with the kernel and report back here so I can help you use the dpkg tool to reinstall it.
[04:01] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: how did you install catalyst?
[04:01] <theboxtheory> celltech if you are in Oneiric you can conf your start-up apps in the upper right corner...
[04:01] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, from ati website and just ran it
[04:01] <theboxtheory> http://wiki.cchtml.com/
[04:01] <Tohuw> hawkeye: Is tethering natively supported by your phone, or are you using a third-party app?
[04:01] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Not entirely sure.  I'm connected to the server, but I think it's via samba rather than nfs.  However, since the point was to connect to the server to transfer files, the exact mechanism isn't necessarily critical.
[04:01] <celltech> system settings?
[04:01] <farrukhjon> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/smb could not be found ? why ?
[04:01] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: completely remove that and run hardware drivers. Try the version it suggests.
[04:02] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, I ran a program called mangler when wow froze this time
[04:02] <spencer_> can someone help me?  hid2hci went missing since yesterday's update...  i've tried /etc/udev/default and enable it and still no
[04:02] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  I will try that and see
[04:02] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: interesting, I just apt-cache searched mangler. I did not know that existed. Thank you.
[04:02] <RandomRoger> Hello, I installed adobe flash plug in from the partner repo and restarted Firefox, but I still do not have flash working, can anyone offer help ?
[04:02] <basix> does anybody know of an application which is like dropbox but it syncs stuff to your own ftp/nfs/smb/sftp server?
[04:03] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, I love it. it works great as a native linux vent
[04:03] <almoxarife> dsnyders: from ubuntu side samba
[04:03] <basix> RandomRoger, define 'not working' ?
[04:03] <RandomRoger> Browser does not have the plugin basix
[04:04] <basix> RandomRoger, how did u install adobe flash?
[04:04] <RandomRoger> with apt-get through the partner repo
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> !away > weeb0_away
[04:05] <RandomRoger> running 11.10 btw
[04:05] <basix> RandomRoger, hang on
[04:05] <RandomRoger> Ok, thanks.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> RandomRoger: can you please PASTEBIN the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gansh|swf|spark'
[04:05] <w1clcly> Does anyone think 11.10 menus look a lot like Mac menus?
[04:05] <RandomRoger> yes
[04:05] <theboxtheory> yes
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> w1clcly: not at all
[04:06] <pdq> whats a mac
[04:06] <bindi> I think the new unity dash thingy is a waste of space ... the icons are REALLY too big :/
[04:06] <basix> RandomRoger,  /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so <- do u have this file?
[04:06] <theboxtheory> see the system preferences in mac os x and the Oneiric ones...they do look kinda similar...but who cares..?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> bindi: you can resize them in ccsm
[04:07] <bindi> ActionParsnip: why are they so big by default? same with the unity bar
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: +1
[04:07] <djjoel> k brb Tohuw
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> bindi: no idea, but default doesn't mean a lot
[04:07] <RandomRoger> http://pastebin.com/G6a14qjr pastbin from command
[04:07] <RandomRoger> basix checking
[04:07] <RandomRoger> Yes basic I do
[04:07] <RandomRoger> basix*
[04:07] <johnjohn101> i really would like the snow effect back in compiz
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> RandomRoger: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386 adobe-flashplugin adobe-flash-properties-gtk; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[04:08] <basix> RandomRoger, now type this in your location bar on firefox -> about:plugins
[04:08] <almoxarife> what's the os in 'kindle fire'?
[04:08] <basix> almoxarife, android
[04:08] <gentoofan> Does anyone know if the Unigine Oilrush game works on an Intel Sandybridge GPU?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> bindi: a tonne of stuff is default in ubuntu but I change it how I like, firefox is the default browser but I always rip it right out and install a browser I like
[04:08] <RandomRoger> Not showing flash basix. Trying that now now ActionParsnip
[04:08] <theboxtheory> the problem with flash in any linux or unix system for that matter isnt the install..is getting it to work properly...
[04:09] <bindi> ActionParsnip: yes well i'm not expecting stupid decisions by default on fresh things
[04:09] <basix> RandomRoger, cool.
[04:09] <Tohuw> theboxtheory: Flash has worked flawlessly for me since 10.10...
[04:09] <almoxarife> can't wait to own a 199 dollar tablet with cracked andriod then
[04:09] <TrevorBradley> Help!  Anyone know what I might have done with my install-info package?  All apt-get programs now give an error: "Setting up install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1) ...
[04:09] <TrevorBradley> Not a directory: MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1.
[04:09] <TrevorBradley> "
[04:09] <Tohuw> theboxtheory: But, perhaps I don't use flash as much as others. I may be a bad test case.
[04:09] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, can I use the ati installer to remove it or should i use terminal ?  and if I use teminal what is the apt-get remove ?
[04:10] <RandomRoger> Ok, flash is working now. Thanks basix and ActionParsnip
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: here its:  sudo cp ~/Dropbox/Linuxy\ Bits/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: works every time :)
[04:10] <TrevorBradley> find . | xargs grep MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO gives no results from my home directory...
[04:10] <hawkeye> how do i get android tether to work with 11.10
[04:10] <basix> RandomRoger, congrats ;)
[04:10] <pdq> i find the firefox addon flash-aid works great
[04:10] <hawkeye> ?
[04:10] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: Remove it from software center. Search ATI and remove stuff that's installed. Be prepared for possible badthings. ActionParsnip, do you remember the ubottu trigger for fixing X after your config/3rd party drivers have been borked?
[04:10] <johnjohn101> what does flash-aid do?
[04:11] <djjoel> Tohuw,  it feels like you have a long distance relationship with my computer and this is the sweet sweet intercourse
[04:11] <basix> now, for my question.. does anybody know of an opensource project which syncs stuff local stuff to a remote server? I really don't want to write my own rsync scripts!
[04:11] <hawkeye> android tether how do i make it work on 11.10
[04:11] <w1clcly> theboxtheory: That's exactly what I thought too.
[04:11] <Tohuw> djjoel: Too much information. What you do to your computer in the privacy of your room is strictly don't ask, don't tell in my book.
[04:11] <pdq> johnjohn101, i think it just does what ActionParsnip said to do. Remove conflicting flash plugins from Ubuntu/Debian Linux systems, install the appropriate version according to system architecture and apply some tweaks to improve performance and fix common issues.
[04:11] <Tohuw> basix: deja-dup
[04:11] <almoxarife> I got wifi(n) to work on ubuntu 11.10, I was not that amazed
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> basix: dropbox
[04:12] <djjoel> Tohuw, LOL :P its done. restarting in a minute once convos are done in FB :) just made my friend a picture of himself with ALL this free software!
[04:12] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: dropbox is  not open.
[04:12] <osmosis> what can I use to edit an flv file, chop it down in size?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: ah, missed that
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> basix: ubuntuone
[04:13] <almoxarife> osmosis: the pitivi app?
[04:14] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, the ati catalyst is not showing in the software center in installed software
[04:14] <Tohuw> osmosis: ffmpeg can, but it's a bit like using a chainsaw to carve a teaspoon. There are other projects for flv editing in Linux, but I have not used any of them. Try hunting around ffmpeg's documentation for manipulating flv's
[04:14] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: dpkg --get-selections|grep -i cata
[04:15] <w1clcly> Does anyone have a favorite release of Ubuntu?
[04:15] <ejv> fiesty fawn was pretty great
[04:16]  * ejv sigh memories
[04:16] <pdq> w1clcly, 11.10 till 12.04 is out hehe. i didn't start till karmic :)
[04:17] <TASK> Hi, How can I reduce the battery consumption of my Ubuntu 11.10 installation (i5, NV GT540M optimus)?
[04:18] <w1clcly> I started when Natty was just released. I looked back at maverick and man did they change a lot. (Cosmetically)
[04:18] <TrevorBradley> Oh well, ubuntuforms.org it is. :)
[04:18] <TrevorBradley> *forums
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TASK: use a light DE will allow the CPU to run slower and use less power
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> TASK: keep brightness low
[04:20] <TASK> ActionParsnip: With Windows7 I have battery power for 9h with Linux only 2h :(
[04:21] <TASK> Standard installation without Nvidia grfx driver... there must be something wrong
[04:23] <D3RGPS31> I have an asus 1215n-pu17, how do i set it so just the nvidia 'card' is used :l
[04:24] <basix> ActionParsnip, thanks but i dont want to sync stuff to dropbox's servers
[04:25] <prixaplan> Anti-ubuntu
[04:25] <w1clcly> basix: so get an external HDD
[04:25] <w1clcly> prixaplan: Why?
[04:26] <prixaplan> becuase it's a debian ripoff
[04:26] <prixaplan> It's like taking Debian unstable/testing and turning it into wheezy
[04:26] <w1clcly> and so your a debain fanboy/girl.
[04:26] <prixaplan> It's like Firefox going from 3.5.1 all the way to Firefox 7 in 9 months
[04:26] <w1clcly> Well is't better than a Mac.
[04:27] <D3RGPS31> prixaplan: it'd be a ripoff if it mirrored the debian repos and just changed branding :l ubuntu has their own repos
[04:27] <w1clcly> Hahha. i know about firefox. When that happened I just stopped.
[04:27] <prixaplan> me too
[04:27] <prixaplan> I switched to Google Chrome/Chromium
[04:27] <w1clcly> Switched to chrome finally.
[04:27] <robertzaccour> there is bad static in audio recording. is there a fix?
[04:27] <robertzaccour> I even tried using a headset
[04:28] <basix> w1clcly, i have a NAS
[04:28] <prixaplan> Firefox killed off some of its user base by making a whole number version increase for each security patch
[04:28] <theboxtheory> it was a debian rip off....know its on its own completely.Its like stealing a song,peak at #1 and then produce original great songs after that :P
[04:28] <prixaplan> whatever
[04:29] <prixaplan> Some people like the menus of Ubuntu better
[04:29] <basix> firefox versioning is a mess. they've gone from being the leaders to 'me too!!!11'
[04:29] <prixaplan> But you have to remember, Firefox is owned by AOL, which laid off 1/3 of its employees
[04:29] <tensorpudding> !ot | prixaplan
[04:29] <prixaplan> and AOLers were the people who always posted "me too!" begging for porn in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica newsgroups in the early 90s
[04:30] <w1clcly> AOL is like a dropped egg.
[04:30] <w1clcly> Cracked all the way to the center
[04:30] <robertzaccour> does aol still exist?
[04:30] <TASK> The power consumption of Ubuntu is a really serious problem: therefore, it's currently not usable as tablet or notebook OS *sad
[04:31] <w1clcly> haha I am sure. In a lost corner of the internet.
[04:31] <robertzaccour> there is bad static in audio recording. is there a fix?
[04:31] <robertzaccour> I even tried using a headset
[04:31] <prixaplan> Yes, AOL still exists, most people still using AOL for broadband are oldbies or 20-30 year old women who were girls when AOL had the highest percentage of female users
[04:31] <pangolin> The topic for #ubuntu is Ubuntu support. Please take the off topic to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:31] <w1clcly> robertzaccour: do you mean recording with a mic?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> TASK: probably some proprietary acpi stuff then, are there bugs reported?
[04:33] <Asad2005> Why apple is not making an itune version for linux? Do i have to run two PCs or duel boot just for syncing my iphone
[04:34] <Asad2005> Are we not raising issue in a good manner to force them to do it
[04:34] <theboxtheory> cause they dont care about us :/
[04:34] <w1clcly> Macintosh pretty much says I don't know what I am using so I will leave it to the tech's.
[04:34] <robertzaccour> is there any way to record audio without static?
[04:34] <Asad2005> Linux community is too large and deserve a glance from appl
[04:34] <robertzaccour> I don't have this issue in windows
[04:35] <Tohuw> Asad2005: Apple has exactly no motivation to make iTunes for Linux. Windows has the largest user base in the world, Macs are their product, Linux is a marginalized product at this point.
[04:35] <w1clcly> robertzaccour: are you recording with an external microphone?
[04:35] <robertzaccour> w1clcly: tried that too
[04:36] <theboxtheory> try lower the mic lvls...use Audacity...try swith around sound drivers to see which one is the best for you
[04:36] <w1clcly> robertzaccour: did you recently update your system. Also why not try a different recording software/program.
[04:38] <theboxtheory> also unless you have a good mic..static noise is unfortunately an unavoidable issue.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: if they did then more folks would buy, look at nvidia
[04:40] <nac-godfather> anyone know I can change the permissions on a file from lrwxrwxrwx to -rwxr-xr-x ?  It's really important.
[04:40] <robertzaccour> w1clcly same issue. tried sound recorder and recordmydesktop
[04:42] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: Linux accounts for < 3% of the global consumer desktop market, and that's an optimistic perspective. Apple has no reason to promote usage of another OS. If they could get away without making Windows apps, they would. The key to success for Ubuntu is forging of its own path; not begging at the feet of software vendors to turn out more closed-source software so users can keep doing everything as they've always done it.
[04:42] <bbrandon> !notunity brandonn
[04:43] <Tohuw> bbrandon: you can /msg ubottu and ask it questions in there, just so you know.
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: so why have nvidia supported linux so well for so long?
[04:44] <jim__> How can I change my desktop back to classic within Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:45] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: Because they don't have a vested interest in another OS? Because they manufacture chipsets for appliances that run Linux? Because Intel has more money than the Internet has lolcats?
[04:45] <Tohuw> !unity| jim__
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: they do have vested interest in other OSes as gamers will almost always install Windows
[04:46] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: Correct, which is why most of their work goes towards Windows. However, they are not Microsoft. They don't make Windows. Cie la difference.
[04:46] <jim__> So I would need to downgrade Ubuntu in order to make my desktop similar to what I had?
[04:46] <heyitseric> jim__ reboot on the login screen look at the bottom of the screen where it says ubuntu desktop click on that and you can switch it back in that list
[04:47] <Tohuw> Anyway this is !ot. If you would like to continue this conversation, I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic, ActionParsnip
[04:47] <Tohuw> jim__: That is nto at all what the factoid said.
[04:47] <Tohuw> !notunity| jim__
[04:47] <jim__> I checked that when I restarted again and all my choices are Ubuntu and Ubuntu2d or terminal
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: its simply apples shortsightedness, just like everything they do.
[04:48] <jim__> where do I get eh "gnome-shell" package?
[04:48] <theboxtheory> jim_ so youre running 11.10 Oneiric not 11.04.
[04:48] <heyitseric> there's a reason why i stuck with maverick
[04:49] <soundconjurer> How do I shrink the icons in Unity Dash Home
[04:49] <heyitseric> he has to be running 11.10, i tried 11.04 and the option to switch back was there
[04:49] <JusticeZero> Can anyone help me get more information to explain to my landlord that his wifi is giving us a hard time? We get periodically dropped, connection isn't disconnected but it stops working, then after awhile we can log back in and go through the redirect screen. I was showing 12% packet loss to google.com a couple minutes ago.
[04:49] <jim__> 11.10
[04:49] <dynamics> .0
[04:49] <theboxtheory> there is no reason to stuck.You can still download and use the gnome2 and have a wide selection of alts,KDE,Enlighment,Openbox,Xfce etc...
[04:50]  * JusticeZero has to upgrade to try E. :p
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: kde is available in oneiric, as is openbox
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: as is xfce
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4 | theboxtheory
[04:50] <soundconjurer> well the icons in the dashhome of unity are too big and they are partially cut off.
[04:50] <jim__> where do I get eh "gnome-shell" package?
[04:50] <jim__> the*
[04:51] <soundconjurer> I don't understand where there isn't something to alter their size
[04:51] <theboxtheory> i know thats what i said.:P
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: why would the other DEs and WMs not be made available in Oneiric??
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: oh, re-read, my bad
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: sincere apolgies
[04:51] <Aquaguy> Hey any of you have ever used pure-ftpd?
[04:52] <theboxtheory> ActionParsnip: hehe np :)
[04:52] <JusticeZero> I'm looking for suggestions on what diagnostics I need to run before I try to talk to my network admin next. Whenever I talk to them they go "You must be using a really ancient system or have a virus."
[04:52] <brandonc503> how do i find my user groups in new ubuntu?
[04:52] <heyitseric> jim__ sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[04:53] <nitin> groups $username
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> JusticeZero: there are few viruses for linux, and none are wild
[04:54] <soundconjurer> also....
[04:54] <nitin> @brandonc503 groups $username
[04:54] <soundconjurer> There is no way for me to send files from bluetooth
[04:54] <soundconjurer> in Ubuntu 10.04 it had an option to accept files from device
[04:54] <soundconjurer> and also a place to put them
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: sure, use the bluetooth app on the panel (afaik)
[04:55] <soundconjurer> but... now it just doesn't work at all.
[04:55] <jaypro> how do i know if my video card drivers are being used?  i can't tell in the new ubuntu os
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[04:55] <soundconjurer> Oh, I've used it to the fullest of its extent
[04:55] <soundconjurer> Connecting the devices, syncing them.
[04:55] <soundconjurer> still can't send files from my phone to my computer
[04:55] <soundconjurer> in 10.04 I was able to
[04:55] <soundconjurer> 11.10 laughs at me
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11356290#post11356290   seems you aren't alone.
[04:58] <zivester> can someone tell me how to run http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/ on my xubuntu machine?
[04:58] <soundconjurer> awesome
[04:58] <soundconjurer> since I can never find this stuff
[04:58] <soundconjurer> I have a ton of things I need to find.
[04:58] <jaypro> ActionParsnip> ahh... i guess it recognized it... but with this new card, i figured it would be able to handle 480p video (2.66 GHz 2GB Memory + Video card)
[04:58] <JusticeZero> ActionParsnip: I know. He also felt that clearly Lucid was absolutely ancient, older than the windows 95 installs he has around.
[04:58] <jaypro> hrmmm
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: if you install nautilus-sendto you shuold be able to sendto from nautils
[04:59] <soundconjurer> I want to send files from my phone to my computer
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: which gpu is it?
[04:59] <jaypro> does 11.10 seem slower to you guys?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: ahh, i see
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: runs fine here
[05:00] <zivester> runs fine here...  anyone running unity?
[05:01] <soundconjurer> me
[05:01] <zivester> have u run this: http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/
[05:01] <zivester> im trying to figure out what package that is.. so i can install it and run it
[05:01] <jaypro> ActionParsnip> ahh well, its ati radeon 9250
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/822141
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: I dont use ati, so couldn't comment
[05:02] <brandonc503> where in the ui of latest ubuntu can i find users and groups
[05:02] <jaypro> oh okay...
[05:02] <brandonc503> not the terminal
[05:02]  * tMH- is gone. nsf
[05:02] <FerchoLP> I have a fat32 partition. I don't have it configured on /etc/fstab, but Nautilus shows me the link to mount it anyway.
[05:03] <FerchoLP> The problem is that it mount it as read only for group and others, so I have problems with some programs that use data in that fat32 partition
[05:03] <FerchoLP> if I configure that partition on /etc/fstab, Nautilus shows 2 bookmarks to that partition
[05:03] <JusticeZero> ActionParsnip: this was his excuse to say "it's not my problem, I don't know what you're complaining about". I want to have some good solid diagnostic test results to throw back at him when he gives me lip again.
[05:03] <JusticeZero> So that maybe I can actually get the problem RESOLVED.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: I beleieve it's in the cog in the top right
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Justasic: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:04] <brandonc503> ya looked up there but dont see it
[05:04] <jim__> heyitseric, TY
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Justasic: what network chip are you using?
[05:04] <Justasic> ok, hit tab 2x not 1
[05:05] <sahilsk> can anyone tell me how can i create a database link in linux? how to specify the remote machine ip and port ? In window we use this : "//192.0.0.2:1521/sid". any help would be great. :)
[05:05] <nitin> @brandonc503 on top right corner you have a cog wheel click on that ->system setting ->(bottom right ) users accounts
[05:05] <JusticeZero> network hiccough. we get those every few minutes.
[05:05] <brandonc503> oh ya i found that but dosent show all users or any groups
[05:06] <magn3ts> why is audio not being emitted by my left hand side?!!!!!
[05:06] <JusticeZero> Anyways, I want to do some diagnostics and have some actual data and numbers to throw back at the network admin when they start that song and dance.
[05:07] <JusticeZero> If someone answered, it was lost in the ether. :p
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: use nautilus and you can connect to samba shares, you can even bookmark them for easy access later
[05:07] <psingh> !notunity
[05:08] <sahilsk> ActionParsnip: i didn't get you. i don't need to share anything, just need to create database link between two remote database. I just don't knwo where to provide ip and port number.
[05:09] <oliver__> anybody know what is the other version of dreamweaver for ubuntu?
[05:09] <magn3ts> LOL
[05:09] <oliver__> do u have any idea guys?
[05:09] <magn3ts> The audio coming from VLC is unbalanced compared to mplayer
[05:09] <magn3ts> how is that possible?
[05:09] <oliver__> i need dreamweaver version of linux
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: ahh i see
[05:10] <tdawg> If anyone has the time, I need some help. upowerd is always using 75-100% of my cpu, been reading around everywhere, I need to downgrade upower I believe?
[05:10] <oliver__> any body out there is there any idea?
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: check the audio balance in vlc
[05:10] <magn3ts> oliver__, what are you looking for.
[05:10] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, I did, and I blew away .local/share/vlc too
[05:10] <oliver__> dreamweaver in linux
[05:11] <soundconjurer> I have another question... how do you clear Unity's dash home recent list?
[05:11] <magn3ts> oliver__, why
[05:11] <sraue> nice: http://openelec.tv/news/item/207-openelec-1-released
[05:11] <FerchoLP> where does Nautilus take parameters to mount partitions when those partitions are not configured on /etc/fstab?
[05:11] <JusticeZero> Does anyone know a bunch of diagnostic commands I can use to get info on how bad my network is, they don't even need to know how to fix it, I just want to have data for the network admin
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> oliver__: kompozer, bluefish, nvu, seamonkey are some I can think of quickly
[05:12] <oliver__> okey..
[05:12] <oliver__> is has gui?
[05:13] <dsnyders> Is scp faster than samba?
[05:13] <soundconjurer> How does one clear Unity's Dash Home recent list???
[05:13] <brandonc503> so no way to see users and group in ui of latest ubuntu?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> oliver__: yes
[05:14] <tdawg> If anyone has the time, I need some help. upowerd is always using 75-100% of my cpu, been reading around everywhere, I need to downgrade upower I believe? I'm on 11.10 also
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: I'd says samba was faster due to the encryption on the data, with a newish system and fast network the difference will be minor
[05:15] <oliver__> @ActionParsnip ---> i am newbie in webpage specially in php. what do u recommend?
[05:16] <soundconjurer> How does one clear Unity's Dash Home Recent List????
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> oliver__: all I can say is try them. Its not something I do. I just know of the softwares
[05:17] <oliver__> okey thanks.. God Bless u..
[05:18] <beta0x64> anyone have any experience with superoneclick?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[05:20] <soundconjurer> Thank you
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: simple websearch dude :)
[05:21] <soundconjurer> Well you have more experience
[05:21] <soundconjurer> everytime i look for it
[05:21] <soundconjurer> nothing but garbage results
[05:21] <Harry_Slaughter> what the heck happened to xmms??? and is there a good alternative? amarok is nasty lookig :)
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=clear+dash+home+recent+list   is my search
[05:22] <sagarchalise> oliver__, If you want an IDE for just php I would recommed eclipse with PDT or Aptana studio. Specific to php there is gphpedit
[05:23] <Harry_Slaughter> oliver__, be sure to check out komodo also, it's payware, but it's very good
[05:25] <nac-godfather> anyone know I can change the permissions on a file from lrwxrwxrwx to -rwxr-xr-x ?  It's really important.
[05:25] <tdawg> If anyone has the time, I need some help. upowerd is always using 75-100% of my cpu, been reading around everywhere, I need to downgrade upower I believe? I'm on 11.10 also
[05:26] <Harry_Slaughter> chmod 755 ??
[05:26] <nac-godfather> tried that
[05:26] <Harry_Slaughter> chmod 0755 ?
[05:26] <nac-godfather> on both the symlink, directory, and original file
[05:26] <psingh> !notunity
[05:27] <Harry_Slaughter> that first bit always messes with my mind
[05:27] <oliver__> okey i try them all
[05:27] <brandonc503> what happend nac- when you did that?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> nac-godfather: the l in the perms mean it is a link, to change l to - you'd need to copy the llinked file to the location
[05:28] <nac-godfather> ah just noticed that
[05:28] <nac-godfather> do you think that's why firefox is whinin'?
[05:28] <soundconjurer> Wow... Unity doesn't have an option to turn off the activity log.... and the activity log manager DOES NOT exist for the activity journal
[05:29] <soundconjurer> so you cannot blacklist folders.
[05:29] <nac-godfather> I figured it would be cool with symlinks, cause wasn't sure if they need to be associated with their home dirs/like reference other files to execute
[05:30] <ranjit> rst
[05:30] <ranjit> gdfdf
[05:30] <bkerensa> hmm?
[05:31] <soundconjurer> This operating system is such fail
[05:31] <soundconjurer> and it takes forever to delete an item from the activity log
[05:33] <Harry_Slaughter> is amarok really the audio player everyone uses?
[05:33] <psingh> In Unity, does anyone notice the default background purple "shifts" from the login screen to the desktop?  Almost like it's being resized or moved?
[05:34] <dsnyders> !unity
[05:35] <soundconjurer> Man, I wish I could install Windows 7.
[05:35] <soundconjurer> This is getting frustrating
[05:36] <soundconjurer> tedious is the word
[05:36] <arghx> yes. your whining gets tedious quick.
[05:36] <MK`> Is it safe to upgrade to 11.10? When I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 many things broke, will more things break or will it fix those things? (ie. override most settings)
[05:36] <soundconjurer> Sorry if Ubuntu 11.10 isn't even up to par with acceptable
[05:36] <soundconjurer> my whining is a result of this OS's effectiveness to not do anything properly.
[05:37] <wiredfool> MK` future hazy: make sure you backup first
[05:37] <firelord42> the os does everything properly to me, are you sure you are using it right?
[05:37] <soundconjurer> It's unintuitive and unequipped to perform tasks most users want to perform
[05:37] <tdawg> anybody know how to downgrade upower so my cpu isn't working @ 100%  all the time?
[05:37] <arghx> soundconjurer: please stop your ranting and keep it to support. if you want to whine and rant: /msg ubottu OT
[05:37] <MK`> wiredfool: how would you suggest I go about it? A manual backup or a partition backup?
[05:38] <soundconjurer> Ah yes, clearing a history should require adding a PPA, installing a program, then telling it to do something.
[05:38] <soundconjurer> NO I asked for help
[05:38] <soundconjurer> I was handed a link
[05:38] <soundconjurer> that is not helping because that link is tedious to follow
[05:38] <Math^> goodmorning all
[05:38] <arghx> !enter
[05:38] <soundconjurer> Why cannot it be simple?
[05:38] <soundconjurer> gnome 2.X kept things entirely simple
[05:39] <soundconjurer> you guys say this is the future, now help make it one
[05:39] <arghx> tdawg: you install a upower .deb of your choosing. which is unsupported. also: have you filed a bug already or is a bug already filed?
[05:39] <MK`> Can you please complain in another channel? This is to get help for issues, not lament about them.
[05:39] <arghx> !attitude | soundconjurer
[05:39] <psingh> soundconjurer, just curious... why are you using Ubuntu 11.10 as opposed to 10.10 or 11.04 ?
[05:39] <joshua__> Hey guys, I need the command line instruction to add your user to the VirtualBox group.  Anyone know it off-hand?
[05:39] <soundconjurer> Just like microsoft, you blame the users
[05:39] <soundconjurer> ciao
[05:39] <soundconjurer> useless help
[05:40] <tdawg> arghx: I've seen a bunch of bugs already reported about it, where can I get the .deb ?
[05:40] <MK`> Failtroll. Microsoft doesn't interact with its users. Anyway... my problems are with plymouth and seeming incompatibility with Ubuntu and Xubuntu being installed on the same drive
[05:40] <arghx> tdawg: which deb do you want?
[05:41] <arghx> joshua__: addgroub
[05:41] <wiredfool> MK`: there are a bunch of ways, depending on what resources you have and how comfortable you are with things. The thing is, the backups are the only way you'd be able to revert back to 11.04, so you'd need to be comfortable taking the backup and restoring. Or waiting a bit for more of the bugs to shake out
[05:41] <firelord42> MK`: by same drive, you mean seperate partitions with a shared home folder or something?
[05:41] <arghx> grrr. addgroup of course
[05:41] <Math^> hey guys, KMS and catalyst isn't working well together, and I've tried uvesafb... but it isn't allowing me to set res @ 1366x1024, best option I got is 1024x768... so what other options I got?
[05:41] <arghx> Math^: radeon
[05:41] <tobes> has anyone had any trouble with flash since the update?
[05:41] <joshua__> that's all?  No vbox, or anything?
[05:41] <Math^> arghx: you mean the module radeon?
[05:41] <tdawg> arghx: 0.9.7-2 ?
[05:41] <arghx> Math^: yes
[05:42] <Math^> arghx: if I do that I get a black screen
[05:42] <MK`> firelord42: No, I installed Ubuntu and then used the Software center to install the Xubuntu desktop package. Since then my desktop randomly does not load themes properly.
[05:42] <Math^> tried that before...
[05:42] <wiredfool> MK` the other option is to try it from a usb key or in a virtual machine
[05:42] <arghx> Math^: lspci -nn |grep VGA
[05:42] <joshua__> Says I need to be root?
[05:42] <Math^> radeon 5600 I got
[05:42] <tobes> no one's had trouble with flash since the update?
[05:43] <wiredfool> tobes: one person on the chan was complaing earlier today
[05:43] <wiredfool> tobes: but, works for me
[05:43] <Math^> arghx: when I start X my screen goes black, not like an empty screen, but the screen goes turns off
[05:43] <arghx> Math^: when you get the black screen, can you still use ctrl+alt+f2?
[05:43] <Math^> nope
[05:44] <Math^> arghx: hold on, I'll try this again
[05:44] <arghx> Math^: laptop or desktop?
[05:44] <Math^> laptop
[05:44] <arghx> intel cpu?
[05:44] <Math^> intel c i7
[05:45] <joshua__> sudo addgroup
[05:45] <arghx> fix you hybrid graphics then
[05:45] <joshua__> woop
[05:45] <Math^> arghx: hmm?
[05:45] <arghx> you have 2 videocards
[05:45] <Math^> arghx: two?
[05:46] <arghx> Math^: your i7 has a videocard, your ati 5670 is a videocard
[05:46] <wiredfool> so, I've got a usb key wifi adapter that doesn't work after suspend/resume. You need to reload the kernel module. I've fixed that with a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d -- is that a bug for the kernel or pm-utils?
[05:46] <Math^> arghx: ah, there's video onboard on my laptop? :/
[05:46] <celltech> May I post a link. and someone help me find the proper driver I need for 11.10 and my graphics adapter?
[05:46] <arghx> wiredfool: kernel
[05:46] <wiredfool> arghx: thanks
[05:46] <arghx> carestad: lspci -nn|grep VGA
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> wiredfool: i've seen that a few times
[05:47] <Confoozled> So my laptop with Ubuntu 10.10 no longer boots....anyonw help this moron?
[05:47] <arghx> Confoozled: how far does it get?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: what happens when you attempt to boot?
[05:47] <Confoozled> well
[05:47] <psingh> I just tried Gnome 3 in a virtual machine.  Visually, it seems a bit less unified than Unity.  I've used the Adwaita theme.
[05:48] <celltech> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <wiredfool> ActionParsnip: nice thing is, reloading the module makes the wireless come back in ~3 seconds
[05:48] <Math^> arghx: it says 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies [Radeon HD 5600 Series] [1002:68c1]
[05:48] <Confoozled> Init:  Failed to spawn ureadahead main process: unable to execute: Input/output error          Filesystem check or mount failed
[05:48] <arghx> Math^: use the radeon driver. reboot and check all Xorg.*.log files for one that tried to load the radeon one and pastebin that one
[05:48] <Math^> arghx: ok
[05:49] <arghx> Confoozled: boot a live cd and fsck your filesystem
[05:49] <Math^> arghx: It did work actually one time, but after that I had a black screen everytime
[05:49] <joshua__> the addgroup command told me the group already existed.. I need to join a group, not add a new one.  What's that command?
[05:49] <Spaceghost> Hi.
[05:49] <celltech> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+82845G+Graphics+Controller  What one do I need?
[05:49] <Confoozled> am running off boot cd
[05:49] <Spaceghost> I installed Ubuntu with Wubi in Windows 7 and it looks like didn't work.
[05:49] <arghx> celltech: none of them
[05:50] <Spaceghost> When I boot through the Windows boot is like I boot from the Live CD.
[05:50] <celltech> Well my grapics adapter isn't working right at all since the upgrade
[05:50] <Spaceghost> Tthat request me a new install.
[05:50] <Spaceghost> Also I don't know how uninstall it for try again.
[05:50] <arghx> celltech: that might be, but downloading random software you have no clue about doesn't solve your problem
[05:50] <firelord42> Spaceghost: did you eject teh cd before rebooting?
[05:50] <Spaceghost> firelord42: yes
[05:50] <celltech> It's from the intel site
[05:50] <celltech> my graphics chipset
[05:50] <Spaceghost> I didn't use any CD, I used Daemon Tools.
[05:50] <arghx> celltech: lspci -nn|grep VGA
[05:51] <arghx> celltech: I know what it is. please run the command I gave you twice
[05:51] <Confoozled> er..what is the command exactly?
[05:51] <Spaceghost> Also I can't actually uninstall wubi or ubuntu for try it again
[05:51] <nac-godfather> I guess firefox amd64 7.0.1 (at least) doesn't like symlinks at all.  Now all my plugins are detected and working!  Sweet!
[05:51] <costas> hello. does anyone here have experience playing .m2ts 60i files (panasonic tm700) smoothly on ubuntu???
[05:51] <celltech> I am
[05:51] <Spaceghost> I have a folder which requires 8gb of space, and I don't know if the better will be erase it manually.
[05:51] <arghx> Confoozled: sudo fdisk -l  andpastebin the output
[05:51] <Math^> arghx: I've to install catalyst again, should I just place [catalyst] and [xorg110] in my pacman.conf, or go for the AUR?
[05:51] <arghx> Confoozled: unless you use wubi
[05:51] <celltech> Yes sir now what?
[05:51] <Spaceghost> Because there will be another program files there by sure.
[05:52] <arghx> Math^: what is "pacman.conf"?
[05:52] <firelord42> Spaceghost: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[05:52] <Spaceghost> And the uninstall through Windows Uninstaller doesn't work well, it shows an error that a file didn't find.
[05:52] <Confoozled> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:52] <Spaceghost> What Do I do?
[05:52] <Math^> arghx: oh shit, I'm talking in ubuntu
[05:52] <Math^> lol
[05:52] <joshua__> What is the entire command to add my user to the vboxusers group?
[05:53] <firelord42> Spaceghost: what about teh uninstall-ubuntu.exe on the page i linked?
[05:53] <Math^> arghx: sorry thought I was in archlinux
[05:53] <costas> hello. does anyone here have experience playing .m2ts 60i files (panasonic tm700) smoothly on ubuntu???
[05:53] <Confoozled> arghx: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:54] <arghx> Confoozled: I told you what to do
[05:54] <Math^> arghx: anyways, I'll install it again, and pastebin the xorg log :)
[05:54] <celltech> I ran the command. Now what do I do?
[05:54] <zoon> i accidentally clicked gnome-session after upgraded to oneiric, now i have no icons or the sexy black bar!
[05:54] <Confoozled> arghx er...I did that
[05:54] <zoon> help anyone?
[05:54] <Confoozled> that is what happened
[05:54] <arghx> celltech: you put the output into a pastebin
[05:55] <Spaceghost> I am reading.
[05:55] <celltech> Want me to paste it in here?
[05:55] <Confoozled> arghx or did I do something wrong
[05:55] <arghx> Confoozled: no it did not.
[05:55] <arghx> !paste | celltech
[05:55] <arghx> Confoozled: pastebin the command you used and its output please
[05:55] <costas> anyone have problems win WINFF in ubuntu 11.10?? I can't get it to work..........
[05:56] <bazhang> costas, to accomplish what
[05:56] <zoon> anyone knows how to change the these in unity?
[05:56] <Confoozled> arghx: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -l                   fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:56] <celltech> Pasted
[05:56] <zoon> THEME, sorry
[05:57] <firelord42> costas: what is it doing or failing to work on? have you tried the commands with ffmpeg on the command line?
[05:57] <arghx> Confoozled: this is the wrong command and not the one I gave you. fdisk
[05:57] <arghx> celltech: and the url is?
[05:57] <celltech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/713891/
[05:57] <Confoozled> er sorry
[05:57] <costas> bazhang, it doensn't do anything. I put a file to convert and it says that it's the wrong size or "m4v" is not supported!
[05:57] <arghx> celltech: afaik this one is too old for unity
[05:58] <bazhang> costas, why not use handbrake if you are trying to convert something
[05:58] <Confoozled> arghx should I just paste the whole thing in here now?
[05:58] <nnfx> prixaplan is spamming
[05:58] <DistantStar> Happy Birthday Ubuntu on its 7th year. :)
[05:58] <celltech> Hmm. It was working just fine till I uninstalled libimobile and it wiped the drivers from 11.04
[05:58] <arghx> !paste | Confoozled
[05:58] <celltech> Anything I can do about that? Revert to 11.04 and get my drivers and stuff back?
[05:58] <costas> bazhang, i'll give it a try, thanks!
[05:59] <arghx> celltech: the drivers are part of xorg itself. you cannot "wipe" them. pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:59] <Moodles> how do i set xfce4 to autologin with lightdm instead of gnome/unity?
[05:59] <Space> firelord42: that was the one that I tried.
[05:59] <celltech> ... permission denied?
[05:59] <Space> And it didn't work, it shows an error, maybe I could paste it if it could help-
[06:00] <costas> firelord42, sorry :) . It seems that ffmpeg is not installed correctly in my ubuntu , It's not an upgrade
[06:00] <Confoozled> Did that work?
[06:00] <firelord42> Space == Spaceghost?
[06:00] <Space> Damn, guys, I am really having a headache trying to install any distro here, in this laptop, I can't do it neither with Wubi actually.
[06:00] <Space> Yes, sorry.
[06:00] <arghx> Confoozled: put it in a pastebin and tell us the URL
[06:00] <firelord42> costas: you can can try re-installing the ffmpeg package
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Moodles: if you log in to xfce, it should remember the last session you used
[06:00] <Space> I had a disconnect.
[06:00] <firelord42> costas: or you could (if you feel darring) recompile ffmpeg :P
[06:01] <sim-paf> hi there
[06:01] <firelord42> Space: so you tried the remover and it didnt work?
[06:01] <Math^> arghx: ok, I've installed catalyst again with radeon module, black screen again... will pastebin my xorg log
[06:01] <costas> firelord42, do you mean to compile, or just reinstall ffmpeg and x264 from package manager? which is the best option to work?
[06:01] <sim-paf> can anyone help me installing ati driver with ubuntu oneric
[06:01] <zoon> guys, seriously need some help about the unity theme. it's been confusing. I normally use awesome window manager with the gnome theme but this new upgrade messed gnome. I am trying to get gnome back but ended up breaking unity simply by running gnome-session in a terminal. does anyone know how to change themes? Right now I have lost a lot of icons. hopefully i don't have to do xorgconf...
[06:01] <sim-paf> ??
[06:01] <arghx> !fglrx | sim-paf
[06:01] <Confoozled> I pasted it into paste.ubuntu.com/713893
[06:01] <Space> firelord42: yes, it didn't work.
[06:01] <firelord42> costas: try reinstalling ffmpeg and x264, that would probably be the best option
[06:02] <Space> And I am just trying to remove it because the Wubi's installation didn't work.
[06:02] <tziOm> Couple quick questions: what would be the version to install in prod env atm? 10.04? and: Does it exist a tool (cli/gui) to make a packagelist on what to be installed (for automating installation a little)?
[06:02] <costas> firelord42, thanks, I'll try it
[06:02] <Space> It's so weird.
[06:02] <arghx> Confoozled: sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[06:02] <firelord42> Space, okay, how good is your windows knowledge? 0.o
[06:02] <Space> It starts in the 10.4 version while I downloaded the 11.10.
[06:02] <arghx> tziOm: fai is what you want
[06:02] <Space> and it starts like the live cd, I mean, it just let me do some things and show the option for install it mainly.
[06:03] <KG> I just bought a Epson N11 inkjet printer. Does this printer work with Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:03] <costas> anyone here from greece?
[06:03] <bazhang> kg check the linuxprinting.org website
[06:03] <bazhang> !gr | costas
[06:03] <Space> firelord42: quite enough, I didn't try other methods to uninstall it, should I go for use another way to uninstall it?
[06:03] <costas> thanks!
[06:03] <KG> Thank you
[06:03] <Confoozled> e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) /dev/sda1: clean, 275027/29761536 files, 40561977/119024384 blocks
[06:03] <firelord42> Space: if it is enough to understand the manual uninstallation, go ahead and do that
[06:04] <tziOm> arghx: thanks. what about version?
[06:04] <arghx> tziOm: I'd use LTS aka 10.04 yes
[06:04] <zoon> uh, silence is very helpful thanks. shouldn't upgraded at all....
[06:04] <Space> firelord42: what what do you think about the other problem?
[06:04] <zee> Hi, which version of Ubuntu would be ideal for a old Pentium4 - 2.8Ghz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HDD ?
[06:04] <Space> is normal that when I installed 11.10 it starts in the 10.4 (LTS?
[06:05] <bazhang> zee, lubuntu
[06:05] <arghx> Space: no
[06:05] <firelord42> Space: give me a sec to read what it was, I am still getting used to this new irc client
[06:05] <Math^> arghx: http://pastie.org/2728043 (hope you can help me)
[06:05] <Space> and in the Windows boot there are two Ubuntu options, but both starts the 10.4 and requires the install, it requires make againt the partitions, etc.
[06:05] <arghx> Confoozled: when your booting fails, there is another error before the one you told us. we need the first error. not the last line
[06:06] <Space> Oh, wait, I could uninstall it finally, the error doesn't appear again.
[06:06] <Confoozled> arghx: well, ok
[06:06] <Space> now I am thinking in try with the Alternate iso
[06:06] <span89> Can you get rid of the keyring in Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:06] <Confoozled> arghx:  I wrote everything it says
[06:06] <firelord42> Space: if wubi is giving you trouble, you could let your windows do a defragment and then shirnk your windows partition and install it in a seperate partition
[06:06] <zoon> let me try again, does anyone here successfully installed gnome in addition to ununtu unity. if so, what should I do?
[06:07] <Space> In the past I tried with the official i386 live cd iso, now I will try with the amd 64 alternate iso.
[06:07] <Space> firelord42: I tried it in the past, and I had another problems, more hardly
[06:07] <bazhang> zoon, what do you mean by 'gnome' and what version of ubuntu are you using
[06:07] <firelord42> Space: the live one should be fine, it will be harder to handle reparititioning with the alternate if you are not used to linux or command line tools
[06:07] <tziOm> how can I get a list of installed packages?
[06:07] <firelord42> Space: what problems?
[06:07] <Space> about boots, maybe my laptop is a bit weird in boot them.
[06:07] <bazhang> tziOm, dpkg -l
[06:08] <Confoozled> arghx: you did see I gave you both messages....failed to spawn ureadahead _and_ Filesystem check or mount failed
[06:08] <arghx> Math^: radeon driver works fine as it should
[06:08] <firelord42> Space: interesting, what laptop do you have?
[06:08] <arghx> Confoozled: are those the _only_ ones?
[06:08] <Space> asus u81a
[06:08] <tziOm> bazhang: can I use that list to install other machine?
[06:08] <zee> bazhang: lubuntu 11.10 or the earlier version? Would Ubuntu 10.04 LTS work on my old P4?
[06:08] <Math^> arghx: yes, but my screen goes black, or better said off
[06:08] <arghx> zee: will work fine
[06:08] <bazhang> !clone | tziOm you mean this?
[06:09] <Confoozled> arghx: should I try again? would one disappear real quick before that came up?
[06:09] <arghx> Math^: I suggest to boot to console and use startx to start X11
[06:09] <zoon> bazhang, thanks for reply, i have just upgraded to 11.10 and my awesomewm theme failed because it was based on gnome. I gathered that ubuntu is solely supporty unity now instead of gnome. While I am trying to re-install gnome even unity's theme failed. I have lost most of the icons and config...
[06:09] <Math^> arghx: I'll try that
[06:09] <Confoozled> arghx: because that was the message and then it didnt go further
[06:09] <Math^> arghx: wait, that isn't working either
[06:09] <firelord42> Space: biggest issue i see is an lcd brightness bug. if you do choose to use the alternate disks, i recommend you do your repartitioning first though
[06:09] <span89> How do you move app icons up/down the side-panel in 11.10?
[06:09] <bazhang> zoon, you mean something similar to 'classic' in 11.04?
[06:09] <arghx> Confoozled: "mount"
[06:09] <firelord42> Space: the partitioner on the live cd is a bit more friendly
[06:09] <sim-paf> building pkg from ati for ati radeon i m getting some error can someone help me out
[06:10] <Math^> arghx: startx or startxfce4 gives the same thing
[06:10] <gadams> Anyone with 11.10 notice their laptop screens refresh to super high contrast when unplugged?
[06:10] <arghx> sim-paf: use the ubuntu packages
[06:10] <Math^> arghx: I think there's something wrong with my screen settings in xorg.conf
[06:10] <Space> firelord42: the interested of this laptop is that have two power one buttons, with one of them starts Windows and with the other a Linux based system but very reduced, I don't remember exactly, but I saw there that there were people who could replace the boot of that system by Ubuntu.
[06:10] <arghx> Math^: ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo
[06:10] <bazhang> !notunity | zoon you mean this perhaps?
[06:10] <arghx> Math^: you are not supposed to have a xorg.conf. none. nada
[06:11] <Confoozled> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713899/
[06:11] <Math^> arghx: eh not even with catalyst?
[06:11] <Space> firelord42: I would like try with Wubi first, defrag and back up all could take me a lot of time, and I would use it as soon as possible.
[06:11] <sa|obar0> hi guys
[06:11] <DoverOs> howz do you update to 12?
[06:11] <tziOm>  aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed|?automatic'
[06:11] <tziOm> E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression
[06:11] <zoon> bazhang, yes, but I am not in particular looking for "classic" in 11.04 to run. I would like to 1. get my "Ubuntu" back to normal and 2. get my "awesome" to work.
[06:11] <bazhang> DoverOs, you dont
[06:11] <arghx> Math^: with fglrx you need one, but not with radeon
[06:12] <Agu10> I'm trying to use the cube with unity in ubuntu 11.10...
[06:12] <sa|obar0> anyone now wich packages can i download to bt5 android phone?
[06:12] <Agu10> how am i supposed to activate it?
[06:12] <DoverOs> bazhang: aw, so you gotta do some funky stuff huh
[06:12] <zoon> bazhang, does the "Ubuntu" or "Ubuntu2D" still use gnome?
[06:12] <bazhang> sa|obar0, bt5 is not supported here; #backtrack-linux for that
[06:12] <Math^> arghx: I've removed my xorg.conf, and can't log in with X now
[06:12] <Math^> Fatal error: no screens found
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> zoon: yes, both use gnome
[06:13] <sa|obar0> ty m8 :)
[06:13] <bazhang> DoverOs, #ubuntu+1 but it's way too early
[06:13] <DoverOs> bazhang: so liek, stuff would barely work xD
[06:13] <arghx> Confoozled: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt;sudo mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/dev;sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/proc;sudo chroot /mnt
[06:13] <bazhang> DoverOs, check that channel for 12.04 please
[06:14] <arghx> Math^: then check your Xorg.0.log again. should be errors there
[06:14] <zoon> ActionParsnip: thanks. that was confusion no. 1. also do you know why all the aperance went away after I ran gnome-session in a shell?
[06:14] <firelord42> Space: okay, i guess try wubi again xD
[06:14] <Space> firelord42: my touchpad doesn't work at the boot, I must use an external mouse meanwhile, but I think that I could solve it then, right?
[06:14] <Math^> arghx: http://pastie.org/2728043
[06:14] <arghx> Math^: and I still wait for the ls command output
[06:14] <Math^> arghx: hold on :)
[06:14] <Math^> have to type over everytime
[06:14] <Space> I mean, at the live cd boot of whatever
[06:14] <Space> sorry for my English.
[06:15] <Confoozled> arghx: and now?
[06:15] <arghx> Math^: this is the exact smae file you pasted earlier
[06:15] <Space> oh
[06:15] <Space> damn
[06:15] <arghx> Confoozled: you have a "#" prompt now?
[06:15] <Math^> arghx: yes
[06:15] <Space> isn't Wubi at the Alternate CD?
[06:15] <Confoozled> arghx yes
[06:15] <Math^> arghx: I don't have this file
[06:15] <arghx> Confoozled: update-initramfs
[06:16] <firelord42> Space: wubi is not on the alternate cd as far as i know, alternate cd is alternate cd, it basically builds a ubuntu system from the ground up, package by package
[06:16] <zoon> is there any place to edit ubuntu's appearnce other than systemsettings->appearance
[06:16] <firelord42> Space: its a completely different way of packaging linux
[06:16] <arghx> Confoozled: that will recreate your initrd, which runs when the error happens. it might have gotten corrupted. otherwise I'm not sure what it could be
[06:16] <Space> firelord42: but can I use the wubi in the live cd for install the Alternate CD?
[06:16] <Confoozled> arghx wants me to specify
[06:16] <arghx> Confoozled: wants to specify what?
[06:17] <Confoozled> arghx: -c -u or -d
[06:17] <firelord42> Space: you cannot use the alternate install for a wubi install, alternate install will require repartitioning
[06:17] <Space> oh, damn
[06:17] <firelord42> Space:  this may ahve more info on your touchpad issue, i know it says dell but i think it is a similar componet
[06:17] <Space> Well, I will try again with the i386 live cd.
[06:17] <tziOm> did aptitute have different search easlier=
[06:17] <firelord42> Space: helps if i give link, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/512192?comments=all
[06:17] <firelord42> uh, ubottu, thats a new feature, how long have you done that?
[06:18] <arghx> Confoozled: use -u
[06:18] <zoon> man this is frustrating....been using ubuntu since Feisty and now it breaks.......
[06:18] <Space> my laptop could works better with a 64 bits version, but maybe the 32 bits could help me in saving disk space.
[06:18] <tziOm>  aptitude search '?installed' results in: E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression
[06:18] <arghx> Confoozled: scratch that. use -c to create a new one from scratch
[06:18] <Math^> arghx: I'll ask in archlinux, think people need you in here for Ubuntu probs. :)
[06:19] <Confoozled> arghx:  alkready using -u
[06:19] <arghx> Space: unless you have >4GB RAM, 32bit is fine
[06:19] <Confoozled> arghx: do it twice?
[06:19] <arghx> Math^: are you running arch or ubuntu?
[06:19] <Space> I have exactly 4GB.
[06:19] <Math^> arghx: Arch
[06:19] <arghx> Confoozled: no problem you can run it again
[06:19] <arghx> Math^: then go away
[06:19] <Math^> arghx: I was typing in the wrong channel, sorry
[06:19] <Math^> arghx: lol
[06:19] <Space> The bad is that the Windows 32 bits only recognizes 3 GB of RAM, but I have read that it doesn't happen with Linux.
[06:19] <Confoozled> arghx: does this take a while?
[06:19] <zoon> anyone uses awesome window manager?
[06:20] <zoon> aweful
[06:20] <arghx> Confoozled: not too long normally. it puts a few scripts and some kernel modules into a single archive, that's all
[06:20] <firelord42> Space: linux sometimes ignores some of it i have noticed, but that could also be my shared video memory on that computer :P
[06:21] <Confoozled> arghx:  says Generating now...it will tell me when its done, right?
[06:21] <arghx> yes, you will come back to the # prompt
[06:21] <dai> woot hey
[06:21] <arghx> when it's done, try to reboot
[06:21] <bignono1> hello , i have 11.10 and win 7 on a lapy , need to degrade to 11.10 remix without unity please advise
[06:21] <Confoozled> good.  I really need a smoke
[06:21] <Space> Does anyone here use Smuxi?
[06:22] <dai> could someone tell me how do you scroll in the terminal?
[06:22] <arghx> !notunity | bignono1
[06:22] <Space> I didn't like XChat enough, now I liked pidgin but the IRC's version is plenty of errors and incomplete.
[06:22] <arghx> dai: shift+pgup?
[06:22] <bignono1> yes nounity
[06:23] <arghx> bignono1: ubottu just told you. read it
[06:23] <dai> i tried that, there's too much data for the terminal to show so it won't scroll
[06:23] <Space> Smuxi looks quite interesting, the only bad that its translation is terrible, but there aren't many things to translate, maybe I could translate it for myself.
[06:23] <Moodles> is there a way to list all available sessions to login with (ubuntu, gnome-classic etc)? i want to find out the name for my xfce4 session
[06:23] <ZooMonkey> Are there any plans for a build for openbravo-3 in Ubuntu Oneiric ??? Does anyone know?
[06:23] <Space> Well, reinstall finished.
[06:23] <firelord42> Space: you can always use irssi :P
[06:23] <bignono1> just a command?
[06:23] <Space> firelord42: now I will restart for see if it works.
[06:23] <Space> Hope me luck.
[06:23] <bignono1> nounity?
[06:23] <firelord42> Space: if you suddenly get the urge to go command line IRC :P
[06:23] <arghx> ZooMonkey: oneiric is released. there won't be new packages for it
[06:24] <dai> are there other commands to scroll in terminal?
[06:24] <ZooMonkey> arghx: Should I try a package from the 11.04 repo, I wonder
[06:24] <SunTsu> dai: use screen ;)
[06:25] <arghx> ZooMonkey: you can try. it's unsupported
[06:25] <dai> sun, what do you mean?
[06:25] <arghx> dai: apt-cache show screen
[06:26] <bhavesh> Is there a way to make gnome-session-fallback exactly like Ubutun 10.10 classic desktop?
[06:26] <SunTsu> d: screen is a terminal multiplexer which is able to scroll back. but aside from that: you can pipe your command's output into less and scroll to your heart's content
[06:26] <bhavesh> the top left Ubuntu icon is no more.. also there's no system tab :( :(
[06:26] <arghx> bhavesh: no. cause there is no gnome2 anymore
[06:26] <SunTsu> $command | less
[06:27] <brandonc503> how do find the current permisions on a directory?
[06:27] <arghx> brandonc503: ls -l <path>
[06:27] <brandonc503> thanks much
[06:27] <SunTsu> brandonc503: ls -ld $path
[06:28] <faraway> i'm running ubuntu in as a guest OS in virtual box. i got NAT working on eth1 but connection via my static ip on eth0 doesn't work … does anyone know how i could trac down the problem (i don't know it i have a config problem on ubuntu side, or on the host, the vbox config seems - imho - to be ok)
[06:28] <Confoozled> arghx: requires version argument
[06:28] <ZooMonkey> arghx: Actually, ironically I think I maybe just found my solution! I should goto 10.04 !!! :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[06:28] <SunTsu> brandonc503: don't forget the "-d" else you will see the directory's content
[06:28] <arghx> Confoozled: -c -k all
[06:28] <dai> @arghx,suntsu, apt-cache show screen is an app that splits the terminal into several windows?
[06:29] <arghx> dai: among other things, yes
[06:30] <Confoozled> arghx: E: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/fixrtc failed with return 1. update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-30-generic-pae
[06:30] <SunTsu> dai: yes, that and it allows you to detach and resume terminal sessions as well als scroll around in your terminal's history, copy/paste from it, create logs and so on
[06:30] <arghx> Confoozled: are you running 10.04?
[06:30] <Polah> dai: The package is just called 'screen'
[06:31] <arghx> Confoozled: is that ALL of the output?
[06:31] <Confoozled> arghx: 10.10
[06:31] <Confoozled> arghx: yes
[06:32] <SunTsu> Wow, I just found something that actually works better with oneiric than it did with maverick: NetworkManager actually works for me now
[06:32] <arghx> SunTsu: praise the Lord and sacrfice a goat!
[06:32] <firelord42> SunTsu: the applet? yeah, its picked up everything perfectly this time around for me :P
[06:33] <SunTsu> arghx: I already sacrificed my hbci and my boot process, I think that's enough already
[06:33] <SunTsu> firelord42: yeah, and it's openvpn module can import and export openvpn configs which is great
[06:34] <dai> hmm its already installed...now i gotta find where it is.. lol
[06:34] <firelord42> SunTsu: orly? I will have some fun with that later this week.
[06:34] <ZooMonkey> Sometimes it just takes that IRC trip to figure it out. Peace out yall
[06:34] <dai> arghx,suntsu anyidea where screen is and how do i start it?
[06:34] <SunTsu> dai: just run "screen" - but make sure to read about it, it's the vi of terminal multiplexers
[06:35] <Datsun> Have just installed netbeans on my new Ubuntu 10.11 install to do some php development.  Netbeans wants to store projects in /home/username, but I think they should be under /var/www.  Does that sound right?
[06:35] <bhavesh> And I guess the keep aligned bug from 10.10 is fixed too
[06:35] <bhavesh> 10.11?
[06:35] <arghx> dai: you install it with apt-get and then simply run "screen"
[06:35] <Polah> dai: Install it through apt-get then run screen
[06:35] <nac-godfather> Here's an idea, if a linux application's source package has multiple compiling options that users might wanna use; then make them available as options when installing via deb or apt.  Otherwise us ubuntu users have to deal with a giant dependency mess, every godamn time we want to compile a newer version of a package from source.
[06:35] <nac-godfather> NO?
[06:35] <Polah> dai: Read the man page first.
[06:35] <dai> i checked on synaptic package manager and its already installed
[06:36] <Polah> dai: Just look at the manual and run it then
[06:36] <arghx> Confoozled: sorry I don't know why this error happens :( do you have a initrd? ls -l /boot/initr*  should give you one for your 2.6.35 kernel
[06:36] <nac-godfather> If I wanna run my goddamn vlc player as root, that's my right!  I don't wanna have to recompile X11 from source in order to do so...
[06:36] <tziOm> is there any way to have a resolv.conf.tail in 11.04 ?
[06:36] <demonspork> nac-godfather: apt doesn't compile the application, apt only helps you to install precompiled applications, so someone would have to make an apt with each possible compile time configuration to accomplish what you are suggesting
[06:37] <tziOm> I want to add search ..
[06:37] <arghx> nac-godfather: please create your own distro. have a nice day and good luck
[06:37] <nac-godfather> I plan on it.
[06:37] <arghx> tziOm: what does resolv.conf.tail do?
[06:37] <Polah> nac-godfather, don't see why you'd need to recompile all your X packages to run VLC as root. Or why for whatever reason you need to run it as root...
[06:37] <orated> Since Canonical no longer supports Sun Java on Oneiric, should Canonical archives for lucid/maverick be used to install sun-java-* packages?
[06:37] <dimas_> Hello !!!
[06:37] <Confoozled> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713914/
[06:37] <arghx> orated: oracle doesn't allow canonical to ship their java
[06:37] <tziOm> arghx: adds to end of resolv.ocnf
[06:37] <firelord42> nac-godfather: i do not see why you need to recompile X to run VLC as root as well... maybe i am out of date on the security stuff in X
[06:38] <Datsun> nac-godfather seems to have got the message.  Now, what about Datsun's question???
[06:38] <nac-godfather> because libav is not new enough, then xcb wasn't new enough, then I needed to get libX11 newer in order to get the newer xcb
[06:38] <arghx> Confoozled: then try to boot. and have you tried all of your 4 kernels and they all give the same error when booting?
[06:38] <arghx> nac-godfather: did you recompiled vlc source that your got with apt-get source vlc?
[06:38] <orated> arghx: So you mean even if I sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner”; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts, I won't be able to use Jave from archives?
[06:39] <firelord42> nac-godfather: but why would that mean you cannot run vlc as root?
[06:39] <brandonc503> how do i see the permissions of all files in a folder?
[06:39] <Datsun> anyone?
[06:39] <nac-godfather> Well, we could all just allow packages to be run as root and not block that aspect, I don't know why that's been started over the past year or so, but it's getting pretty popular in deb packages.
[06:39] <arghx> orated: it will work I guess
[06:39] <Confoozled> arghx:  no....just the first one and then the ...uh... whats it called... something mode
[06:39] <orated> arghx: $(lsb_release -sc) natty/lucid/maverick I mean*
[06:40] <arghx> Confoozled: try the other ones too (imho)
[06:40] <Polah> Datsun: Look through your Netbeans settings for where it stores files by default, or choose to save the project wherever you want
[06:40] <Confoozled> ok
[06:40] <firelord42> Datsun: the /home folder seems like a fine place to me, but I do not do php devel
[06:40] <arghx> orated: it might work but is totally unsupported
[06:40] <firelord42> Datsun: *the home folder path
[06:40] <nac-godfather> arghx, no, actually that's a real quick way to get the exact source of the version I need though, thank you very much!
[06:40] <Confoozled> arghx:  thanks...ill be back if it doesnt work
[06:40] <nac-godfather> saves my issue for now, whoohoo!
[06:41] <arghx> Datsun: development is /home/user, yes. only deployment is to /var/www/
[06:41] <Datsun> Ok, so if I develop in /home/user, how do I get my web server to see so I can test it?
[06:42] <arghx> Datsun: you deploy it
[06:44] <orated> arghx: Otherwise I can compile Sun Java from source, right? Could you please link me to a documentation for the same?
[06:44] <Datsun> arghx: thanks.  I have been working on a windows machine without any vcs.  If I am going to be deploying to test that regularly, I should probably use a vcs?  Yes?
[06:44] <francesi82> ciao
[06:45] <francesi82> #ubuntu
[06:45] <francesi82> ciao
[06:45] <arghx> orated: you can download binaries from oracle.com for java7
[06:45] <arghx> Datsun: not necessarily. your choice
[06:46] <Datsun> arghx: so, if I wasn't using a vcs, would I just copy the files from dev to test as required?
[06:46] <orated> ok thanks arghx
[06:46] <francesi82> ciao arghx
[06:47] <arghx> Datsun: no. from http://netbeans.org/features/php/ : PHP projects can easily be deployed from within NetBeans IDE for testing to local or remote servers via FTP or SFTP, or by the use of an upload script for more complex deployments.
[06:47] <nac-godfather> anyone here wanna provide me the lucid sources.list file /standard
[06:47] <Datsun> Thanks arghx.
[06:48] <kriss_> Hi everyone. Ive installed GDM as login manager again since lightdm keeps listing every user logged in. Thats not really working for me. But i need to have GDM (in ubuntu 11.10) select Gnome Classic as the default x session.. How do i do that ? i used to have a GUI in old gnome but thats not there anymore
[06:48] <bazhang> !notunity | kriss_
[06:48] <bazhang> kriss_, classic is gone, try the alternative if you wish
[06:49] <kriss_> well i can select classic manual in GDM.. i just needs it to be the default for every user which logs in
[06:49] <kriss_> but ill try te gnome panel
[06:49] <firelord42> nac-godfather: i just found this, do not know if it works, but it will spit out a sources list http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[06:49] <milind> hi .. gnome 3.2 always logs in to classic mode without graphics ... I can see compositing effects in Unity and KDE though ...
[06:50] <keith_linux123> whats the ubuntu off topic channel ?
[06:50] <bazhang> !ot | keith_linux123
[06:52] <bhavesh> what if sudo rm -rf /* is hidden inside a script?
[06:52] <kriss_> bazhang do you know what the GUI is called in english where you can tell GDM which kind of X session you want as default (such as gnome classic) ?
[06:52] <bhavesh> wont it destroy the whole system?
[06:53] <psycho_oreos> if its executed as root, yes
[06:53] <milind> does any one have gnome 3.2 working in ubuntu 11.10
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh: then you have a problem
[06:53] <kriss_> milind i have gnome running with classic yes.
[06:54] <_-XPERT-_> milind: Yep got it working but no screen saver or lock
[06:54] <milind> grt .. i have desktop effects running on unity and kde but not on gnome 3.2
[06:54] <milind> i want to resolve this ... I wanted to check xorg.conf but could not find it in /etc/X11
[06:54] <tziOm> I cannot make /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail work. its 11.04 (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/resolvconf.8.html)
[06:55] <kriss_> -_XPERT-_ lock as in lock the screen ?? Thats working just fine here.. Ive set it to the same keys as Windows (Windows-key + L)
[06:55] <milind> how can i confirm if I am using the hardware accelerated version of the driver and not the VESA one ?
[06:56] <kriss_> Anyone know what the GUI for telling GDM to use gnome classic as default when logging in is called in english ? Its not there anymore (even after installing gdm)
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> _-XPERT-_: I've seen a guide online, top things to do after installing oneiric. Shows to to install screensaver and enable lock. Might have been on webupd8 but my brain is too tired to remember
[06:57] <milind> @kriss_ ... doesn't GDM remember the last choice you make ...unless u change it ..
[06:58] <kriss_> milind perhaps. But the problem is that i want every new user to use gnome classic as default
[06:58] <kriss_> not this unity <profanity words used here>
[06:59] <milind> oh ok .. may be there is a config file
[06:59] <kriss_> yeah.. In old gnome there used to be a program which easily lets me change this to classic and it would "suggest" this as default for all users.
[07:00] <kriss_> thats what i like. I just dont know the english name for it.. Basicly id be a happy camper if i could just get the old gnome back.
[07:01] <milind> ya me too
[07:01] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi guys can anybody suggest a good software to create interactive maps? im on a uni project and have to create the map of a city in which i can put images of monuments and attractions that work like links to .odt or .xcf files
[07:02] <kriss_> I was SO happy when i found that setting up 11.10 for domain and assume default domain AND having shortcuts to the users windows server share was easy.. Except now i have like a ton of changes to do just to make the system usable at all.
[07:03] <tdawg> anybody know how to replace the current upower with an earlier version? it's constantly running my cpu at 100%
[07:03] <jayant> howdy, i am new to ubuntu. and i have plenty of quesitons. can someone help me by answering those please...thanks
[07:03] <bhavesh> kriss_ I guess im goin to downgrade my Ubuntu to 10.10 soon.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> jayant: ask away. We're all listening
[07:05] <jayant> i using ubuntu software center while suddenly my touchpad stopped working.(although it's light is still on). I had to connect a usb mouse. Is there some shortcut key that did it..or is it some other problem that will get fixed when i restart?
[07:05] <kriss_> bhavesh id wish i could go down to 10.04 too as its LTS but alas.. Id have to downgrade all the way to 9.10 just to be able to set it up for domain with windows shares.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> jayant: more than likely, yes
[07:06] <jayant> ActionParsnip: yes for shortcut key, or yes about restarting?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> jayant: restart will reload the driver module
[07:06] <milind> kriss_  ..this might be helpful ...
[07:07] <milind> http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en
[07:07] <kriss_> sweet. thanks
[07:07] <jayant> ActionParsnip: ok..thanks
[07:07] <nac-godfather> Nice link firelord42,
[07:08] <milind> does any one know the location of the xorg.conf file in ubuntu 11.10
[07:08] <milind> ?
[07:08] <tdawg> anybody know how to replace the current upower with an earlier version? it's constantly running my cpu at 100% I have a .deb of an earlier version, but can't install it in the software center
[07:09] <jayant> I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F2  and it opened up the terminal. but how do i get back to where i was from that screen ?
[07:10] <popey> jayant: CTRL+ALT+F7
[07:10] <jayant> @popey: thanks
[07:10] <tonysan_> Are there some tools like htop which can monitor IO rates in realtime?
[07:10] <bazhang> tonysan_, iotop?
[07:11] <msepsis> milind - "locate xorg.conf"
[07:11] <jayant> the shortcut key read that it is for "vitual terminal". What is it exactly? how is it different from normal terminal. i googled it, but it just bounces off my head :-)
[07:12] <msepsis> it should be in /etc/X11, maybe they moved it or it's finally fully no longer used
[07:12] <popey> tonysan_: iostat
[07:12] <popey> jayant: CTRL+ALT+T
[07:12] <SwedeMike> milind: non-existing xorg.conf means it runs on default. xorg.conf has seen less use the past few years.
[07:12] <popey> jayant: not sure that keyboard combo is set by default anymore
[07:12] <Calinou> it is...
[07:12] <milind> msepsis I tried that and I get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/713934/
[07:12] <jayant> popey: thanks....but what is the difference between these 2 terminals
[07:13] <Calinou> at least I think
[07:13] <sagarchalise> tdawg, sudo dpkg -i pathtodeb package I guess
[07:13] <popey> jayant: functionally wise, not much
[07:13] <tonysan_> popey: could iostat continunosly monitor?
[07:13] <Calinou> almost none. both work same, just the screen is not the same
[07:13] <jayant> popey: i guess it is, because it works on mine and i installed ubuntu yesterday :)
[07:13] <popey> tonysan_: yeah, iostat can refresh every second
[07:13] <jayant> popey: why is it virtual?
[07:13] <popey> jayant: yay!
[07:13] <popey> jayant: its not a physical terminal on your physical desk I guess ☺
[07:14] <jayant> popey: what does that mean ?
[07:14] <popey> tonysan_: depends what you're trying to monitor
[07:14] <jayant> popey: you mean desk or disk ?
[07:14] <popey> jayant: terminals used to be physical boxes on your desk
[07:14] <milind> SwedeMike  thnks .. How can I figure out if I am using the vesa version or the hardware accelerated version of the driver..
[07:14] <msepsis> miland those are just templates, and what SwedeMike said
[07:14] <milind> msepsis .. thnks
[07:15] <jayant> popey: haha...ok...i thought that the terminal with ctrl+alt+F2 is a virtual one while the one with ctrl+alt+T is not
[07:15] <milind> because  I always login to the fallback gnome 3.2 version without desktop effects
[07:16] <glassresistor> quick question, im trying to build a very quick backuo and restore system for ubuntu on ext4, the current system is a 500Gb ssd with ~200Gb on it, i want to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and switch to an encrypted lvm
[07:16] <msepsis> milind... far as i know/understand if you dont have an xorg.conf you definitely aren't using any accelerated drivers, as that's where they'd be defined (xorg.conf)
[07:17] <glassresistor> firstly is it dumb to use an encrypted fs on a MLC ssd the newest patriot pyro 550r/515w
[07:17] <arghx> msepsis: you understand wrongly
[07:17] <popey> glassresistor: i dont think thats a dumb thing to do
[07:17] <arghx> glassresistor: why would it be dumb?
[07:17] <rhizmoe> dash search isn't finding some stuff it should...what does it run its index off of? is there something i can check is running?
[07:17] <yaron-heb> Whats the name of the Ubuntu translators channel?
[07:17] <jayant> there are plenty of working environments(i guess thats the right word) i came across randomly like gnome, compiz, beryl etc. how do i know which one i am using currently?
[07:17] <tapout> my usb3 external drive keeps powering down.  hdparm won't change the settings.  Anyone know how to disable it from powering down??
[07:18] <milind> because I had hardware acceleration with 11.04 .. my display adapter is intel gma which is well supported I believe
[07:18] <glassresistor> popey: read speed and lifetime of the drive, its a a 500$ drive and encrypted drives use the whole thing and spread out the data onto different blocks
[07:18] <popey> jayant: do you have a list of big buttons down the left hand side?
[07:18] <arghx> glassresistor: no they don't
[07:18] <jayant> poepy: yes
[07:18] <popey> jayant: unity
[07:18] <glassresistor> and so wouldn't that mean it would kill the drive faster?
[07:18] <popey> glassresistor: there is a lot of misinformation around the life of SSDs
[07:18] <jayant> popey: can i get a taskbar\panel in that
[07:18] <popey> glassresistor: take regular backups and get on with your life, if it fails, it fails.
[07:19] <arghx> glassresistor: every filesystem uses "the whole thing" and encrypted fs doesn't spread out the data to different locks
[07:19] <popey> jayant: dunno
[07:19] <arghx> *blocks
[07:19] <jayant> popey: or something else that has the list of all current running items?
[07:19] <msepsis> milind- yeah i don't know then.. I've always had and used NVIDIA cards and their drivers need to be referenced in xorg.conf
[07:19] <arghx> jayant: top shows all running processes, but I dunno if that's what you want
[07:19] <popey> jayant: i dont know, i just use unity as it is, running stuff has a little mark next to it
[07:19] <arghx> oh. you want a taskbar. sorry
[07:20] <jayant> arghx: do you mean the bar at the top?
[07:20] <glassresistor> arghx: im happy to hear that, explain? encryption should make your disk look like noise correct? and mlc's would die fastest if bit are flipped in an even distrobution?
[07:20] <arghx> jayant: ignore my comment
[07:20] <jayant> popey: yeah, but it's annoying when it goes back, and what if it fills up
[07:20] <arghx> glassresistor: no I don't explain. this is a ubuntu support channel. ask ##hardware or such
[07:20] <pc13> ada orang indo gak?
[07:20] <tapout> my usb3 external drive keeps powering down.  hdparm won't change the settings.  Anyone know how to disable it from powering down??
[07:20] <jayant> arghx: ok...thanks anyway
[07:20] <pc13> first time nih pake smuxi
[07:21] <arghx> !id | pc13
[07:21] <glassresistor> arghx: well that you anyways i was getting to the ubuntu part actually, which has to do with how im wanting to run do the backup
[07:21] <jayant> popey: how do i change stuff in that sidebar on the left?
[07:21] <iDorito> Hi, it's me, Linus Torvalds.
[07:21] <iDorito> I just came here to say... I'm sorry. I was wrong.
[07:21] <arghx> glassresistor: then ask a question which actually is a ubuntu problem
[07:22] <zagibu> iDorito: no problem, dude, we forgive you
[07:22] <iDorito> Thanks.
[07:22] <iDorito> Can we clear out the channel please? Everybody head over to #windows. Thanks.
[07:22] <pybit> iDork
[07:22] <iDorito> :(
[07:22] <vijvij> Hi I ran sudo apt-get build-dep firefox. This is the error http://pastebin.com/P3rUkXUS . Thanks for your help.
[07:23] <zagibu> i don't think so...everyone has to figure it out for themselves
[07:23] <arghx> iDorito: do you have a ubuntu related problem? if not, please be quiet. you can go to #defocus if you want to simply chat
[07:23] <conntrack> don't mind me
[07:23] <zagibu> it's kind of a spiritual thing
[07:23] <glassresistor> would installing 11.10 using virtualbox(no fs mounted) to install 11.10 on the new ssd work
[07:23] <iDorito> Aye aye sir.
[07:23] <jayant> how do i switch from unity to compiz?
[07:24] <arghx> glassresistor: depends how you set up your VM in vbox
[07:24] <sagarchalise> jayant, unity is a compiz plugin
[07:25] <jayant> sagarchalise: ahhh....thanks...but why is it not as cool as i see it on various websites?
[07:25] <glassresistor> and if so would it then be ok to take my current system run a distrobution upgrade, dump the package list and make a root.tar.xz.nc style encrypted backup of the / dir excluding special folders off /
[07:26] <mynotes> test
[07:26] <sagarchalise> jayant, install compizconfig-settings-manager with compiz-plugins and make it cool as you like
[07:26] <glassresistor> then on the new harddrive uppack the old root fs onto the newly insall base linux system work?
[07:26] <sagarchalise> jayant, what cool functionality do you need
[07:26] <arghx> glassresistor:please look into clonezilla
[07:27] <vijvij> Hi I ran sudo apt-get build-dep firefox. This is the error http://pastebin.com/P3rUkXUS . Thanks for your help.
[07:27] <jayant> sagarchalise: anything thats awesome and doesnt work really slow :-) I want to try a lot of stuff
[07:27] <glassresistor> arghx: clonezilla states on the front page it can't go from a larger to a smaller filesystem
[07:27] <arghx> glassresistor: and this is a problem how?
[07:28] <glassresistor> also wanting to perfect this so i can run hot standby rsync jobs throughout the week to gpg encrypted gips
[07:28] <sagarchalise> jayant, check out compiz plugins
[07:28] <conntrack> I'll guess from now on I'll get stupider and stupider if that possible lol
[07:28] <jayant> sagarchalise: i installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins was already installed and was to the newest version
[07:28] <jayant> sagarchalise: how do i use it? i mean, how do i access it's settings?
[07:29] <mkultra> i just fixed my grubs boot image if anyone wants the tutorial i drew up for ubuntu 11.10
[07:29] <sagarchalise> jayant, open up ccsm and enable the plugin you want to check out
[07:29] <glassresistor> i have a 500Gb hd and am moving to a 240Gb ssd, also want to upgrade the ubuntu release and move to an encrypted lvm since the ssd has the I/O speed to make the r/w loss due to encryption livable
[07:30] <kriss_> Am i the onlyone who cant seem to put icons on the desktop of gnome classic in 11.10 ?
[07:30] <jayant> sagarchalise: got it! Thanks a lot for all your help
[07:30] <mkultra> heh i specifically remove the icons from the desktop
[07:30] <mkultra> kriss do you have files for the icons in $HOME/Desktop?
[07:30] <Kartagis> http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/bar.png <--- how do I hide the bar on the left?
[07:31] <glassresistor> which is why i was asking is getting a complete copy of the root filesystem hidden files, perms, and timestamps included  and installing the bootloader and kernel with the server install cd
[07:31] <kriss_> mkultra hmm nope. No desktop in the home folder at all
[07:31] <mkultra> kartagis alt + f2 gksu synaptic / remove unity
[07:32] <mkultra> gksu synaptic run
[07:32] <mkultra> no /home/user folder?
[07:32] <Kartagis> thanks mkultra
[07:32] <kriss_> mkultra sure i have the users folder but no deskop icon or folder inside my users folder
[07:32] <glassresistor> hoping i could install the base system with grub etc. then copy over settings files etc. and some of my opts stuff then apt-get install everything from the pervious build
[07:32] <Daghdha> Hi, i have 10.04 my updater only lists 11.04, not 11.10
[07:32] <mkultra> someone said 11.10 doesnt have synaptic, apt-get install synaptic if you dont have it
[07:32] <Daghdha> Do i have to get 11.04 1st?
[07:33] <glassresistor> its kindov ambious but it seems like it should work
[07:33] <mkultra> i think so daghdha
[07:33] <mkultra> i did 11.04 to 11.10
[07:33] <kriss_> its right you dont have synaptics in 11.10
[07:33] <mkultra> id stick with 10.04 though to be honest
[07:33] <Daghdha> And what are the success rates for upgrading a 10.04 to 100.04?
[07:33] <Daghdha> Oh ok
[07:33] <Daghdha> Well i was only gonna upgrade if 11.x has newer mono
[07:33] <mkultra> so far ive ran into bug after bug on 11, and 10 was rather good about not being so buggy
[07:34] <glassresistor> has anyone had issues going from 11.04 to 11.10?
[07:34] <Daghdha> But i guess i can up mono in 10.x
[07:34] <jayant> sagarchalise: is there a master reset, or restore or something like that for ccsm?
[07:34] <mkultra> yeah id just keep pushing mono up by hand / repository ppa
[07:34] <Daghdha> repositorey ppa?
[07:34] <mkultra> no jayant, you gotta set all your ccsm by hand
[07:34] <Kartagis> Oct 20 10:30:01 vps CRON[3808]: (iegg) CMD (/usr/bin/znc)
[07:34] <Kartagis> Oct 20 10:30:01 vps CRON[3807]: (CRON) error (grandchild #3808 failed with exit status 1) <--- what can I do about this?
[07:34] <sagarchalise> jayant, basically if you want to reset to default unity you do unity --reset
[07:35] <mkultra> yeah, repo ppa = someones launch pad pre built apt source
[07:35] <jayant> mkultra: sagarchalise: thanks
[07:35] <mkultra> be careful doing that, id almost rather build sources by hand than use other peoples PPAs unless its official like pidgin / virtualbox websites ppa 4 ubuntu
[07:35] <jayant> i tried setting it to wobbly windows, but it doesnt work!
[07:36] <mkultra> wobbly windows requires window movement for me
[07:36] <sagarchalise> jayant, try alt+f2 ccompiz --replace after enabling the plugin if it doesnot do it by default
[07:36] <mkultra> scroll down to window management and select "move window"
[07:36] <seneca> security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'  how do i get out of this
[07:36] <Daghdha> mkultra: Sorry, but i have no idea what you mean with repo ppa, i look for ppa in synaptic but nothing
[07:37] <mkultra> mono
[07:37] <mynotes> hello. I created a symbolic link on my file. the problem I can't see  sign  (-> ) like this on my terminal..even i run this command ls -al .i'm using ubuntu 10.10
[07:37] <jayant> sagarchalise: ok..thanks... does it have a cc in compiz or was it a typo?
[07:37] <mkultra> a ppa makes the repository synaptic default go away, and instead a site specific version of mono would pop up if it was newer than the base repo
[07:37] <mynotes> tried to look if the symbolic link is pointing on right file
[07:37] <seneca> security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.' how do i get out of this
[07:38] <mkultra> mynotes you probably did the symlink backwards
[07:38] <Daghdha> where can i find this mono ppa?
[07:38] <mkultra> should be ln -s /hard/copy/of/file   space    /where/u/want/link
[07:38] <jayant> sagarchalise: i did that, it refreshed all windows...but it still doesn't work
[07:39] <Daghdha> i always do links backwards, even in windows. It's contra-intuitive for my brain smehow :)
[07:39] <mkultra> https://launchpad.net/~mono-testing/+archive/ppa
[07:39] <mkultra> then it gives the line
[07:39] <mkultra> ppa:mono-testing/ppa
[07:39] <SunTsu> er, why the fword does initramfs' conf/conf.d/cryptroot contain the following: lvm=system-root,lvm=system - that of course will go down in flames
[07:39] <mynotes> mkultra: i think i issue a right command.
[07:39] <SunTsu> where does that lvm=system come from?
[07:40] <mkultra> mynotes cp a backup, then get fearless
[07:40] <Daghdha> https://launchpad.net/~mono-testing/+archive/ppa  <- is thaht the APT line for in Synaptic?
[07:40] <mkultra> so take file...   cp file file.backup
[07:40] <mkultra> then ln -s file /boot/virus
[07:40] <mkultra> then stat /boot/virus
[07:41] <mkultra> no the ppa line is the apt line
[07:41] <mkultra> ppa:mono-testing/ppa
[07:41] <mynotes> mkultra: i run the same I got file exists
[07:41] <jayant> I turned on all the effects available in ccsm and then did "compiz --replace" but still nothing changed. no water effect, no wobbly windows :(
[07:41] <mkultra> thats only example 4 you daghdha
[07:41] <iuytfr> hello there
[07:42] <mkultra> then ls -al /boot/virus should give arrow directing back to original
[07:42] <mkultra> hi
[07:42] <netxshare> I am wondering if there is anyway I can use a drive that has data on but it's filesystem id is 8e (LVM)
[07:42] <kriss_> mkultra: do you happen to know how to place a simple shortcut to say Firefox on the damn desktop ?
[07:42] <mynotes> mkultra: but when I run ls -al no arrow
[07:42] <mkultra> yes kriss
[07:42] <kriss_> on gnome classic that it
[07:42] <kriss_> is.
[07:42]  * Daghdha sighs
[07:43] <mkultra> it would be ln -s /usr/bin/firefox $HOME/desktop
[07:43] <mkultra> ekkk
[07:43] <mkultra> ln -s /usr/bin/firefox $HOME/Desktop
[07:43] <kriss_> hmm thanks.
[07:43] <iuytfr> hi to determine the version of bit on ubuntu server ?
[07:43] <mkultra> 2nd one
[07:43] <mkultra> hang on 2 seconds versions gonna take a moment
[07:44] <sagarchalise> jayant, ctrl+super initiates water effect
[07:44] <kriss_> mkultra when i look at files in my home folder (showing hidden files as well) i have no deskop folder or file
[07:45] <jayant> sagarchalise: i dont see any change. what does water effect do?
[07:45] <mkultra> cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:45] <mkultra> = version
[07:46] <mkultra> kriss...  its Desktop, linux is case sensitive
[07:46] <sagarchalise> jayant, it creates a drop on water like effect on screen
[07:46] <reisio> jayant: which is good for efficiency
[07:46] <jayant> sagarchalise: it doesnt work :'(
[07:47] <mkultra> some of my compiz is broken
[07:47] <mkultra> from repo
[07:47] <jayant> reisio: sorry i didn't understood what you meant to say
[07:47] <reisio> 's'okay, small joke
[07:47] <Daghdha> i still have no idea what to do mkultra, where the urls go, and what not.
[07:48] <jasef> I'm about to reinstall Ubuntu (cause I'm having really weird problems), and I was wondering - would I get better battery life out of Xubuntu or won't I get a difference?
[07:48] <mkultra> the ppa:ppateam/file goes into the synaptic repository apt line
[07:48] <mkultra> the real trick is finding the ppa
[07:48] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, just do sudo add-apt-repository and you ppa in terminal
[07:49] <Daghdha> so i wanna google for mono ppa?
[07:49] <jayant> reisio: ubuntu is already playing jokes with me. I tried using it last year, when i had a really reaaly old system and i have millions of problems and i still dont understand anything even though i have a nice system :(
[07:49] <kriss_> mkultra i know. Im lookin.. both via a window showing my home folder and in CLI mode.. no Desktop at all
[07:49] <mkultra> yeah your gonna want to hunt out a stable / dev mono
[07:49] <mkultra> one that works
[07:50] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: do you people have any idea why its not working on my system. could there be any other setting or something that i might look into?
[07:50] <Daghdha> apparently ppa.ppa:gezakovacs/sandbox
[07:50] <Daghdha> or https://raw.github.com/nathanb/iws-snippets/master/mono-install-scripts/ubuntu/update_mono-2.10-to-mono-2.10.1.sh
[07:51] <Daghdha> shell i understand.
[07:51] <sl1ck> is there any way to place my taskbar at the bottom? I'm old school.
[07:51] <mkultra> top left open gl needs turned on
[07:51] <mkultra> theres alot of reasons why it would not work jayant
[07:51] <mkultra> you need 3d drivers
[07:51] <mkultra> from nvidia / ati
[07:51] <jayant> mkultra: i have drivers for my nvidia card
[07:52] <mkultra> that would require alt + f2 gksu jocky-gtk
[07:52] <sagarchalise> jayant, may be driver issue but it should run , just run /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  to see what are supported
[07:53] <jayant> mkultra: i ran that command, i have drivers!
[07:53] <enabran> hi
[07:53] <mkultra> ok
[07:53] <sagarchalise> sl1ck, not with unity
[07:53] <Daghdha> What say you experts: This any good? https://raw.github.com/nathanb/iws-snippets/master/mono-install-scripts/ubuntu/update_mono-2.10-to-mono-2.10.1.sh
[07:54] <sagarchalise> sl1ck, gnome-fallback-session or something like xfce or lxde
[07:54] <mkultra> jayant did you make sure compositing was on?
[07:54] <enabran> i'm curious about the cloud installation for 11.10. is there any way of automatic installation like with eucalyptus in 10.04 during installation?
[07:54] <Daghdha> That way i don't need to getit from untrusted PPA
[07:54] <jayant> sagarchalise: heres what i got. Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: unable to create the OpenGL context
[07:54] <reisio> |IlIIIIl|: bit odd to PM strangers :p
[07:55] <reisio> |IlIIIIl|: the only software that's sure to not have spyware is independently audited open source software
[07:55] <jayant> mkultra: if you mean composite plugin, yes
[07:55] <mkultra> that script looks ok to me, it compiles from source
[07:55] <raven> gpodder: how to deactivate left click menu?
[07:55] <sagarchalise> jayant, your hardware doesnot support 3d acceleration what video card do you have
[07:56] <jayant> sagarchalise: it does, i play crysis 2 on highest graphic detail on windows :D
[07:56] <jimmy8888> hi im having trouble with the dash menu in unity 11.10 - the search page is not showing installed applications
[07:56] <jayant> sagarchalise: i have nvidia GT 555M
[07:56] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, you need to build mono that way may run into dependency issue, I would rather go with ppa but that's just me
[07:57] <sagarchalise> jayant, have you installed the driver
[07:57] <jayant> sagarchalise: yes
[07:57] <arvut> if I get this error when I do this.. "arvut@556-wucko:~/nwn$ ./nwmain
[07:57] <arvut> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)" then how would I know what causes it? any way I can debug it?
[07:57] <Daghdha> sagarchalise do you know a trusted PPA that has it?
[07:58] <arvut> err.. first line didn't compute.
[07:58] <Daghdha> i see https://launchpad.net/~directhex/+ppa-packages
[07:58] <jhujhiti> how do i figure out why a package was removed from an ubuntu release? the bug tracker isn't turning anything up
[07:58] <enabran> anyone will to help with the new ubuntu cloud?
[07:58] <reisio> jhujhiti: which'n?
[07:58] <Daghdha> but there's like 175, i dunnow which i need.
[07:58] <jhujhiti> reisio: dbmail
[07:58] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: in "additional drivers" window, i have 2 drivers for my nvidia card. one is recommended and the other one is (post-release updates)(version current-updates). I will try switching back to recommended one...
[07:59] <reisio> enabran: like... hold your hand, or talk about a specific issue?
[07:59] <enabran> or is there another channel where this topic fits better?
[07:59] <arvut> trying to launch nwmain (Neverwinter Night's Main) and I get that lovely segfault with SDL.. what could have gone wrong?
[07:59] <reisio> enabran: what topic
[07:59] <enabran> reisio: more like talking about a specific issue... e.g. documentation for the installation process...
[07:59] <Squarism> Has spotify (with ulitmate account) stopped working in linux?
[07:59] <Daghdha> apparently i have 10.04 wich is lucid links
[07:59] <mkultra> i have current version
[07:59] <mkultra> the 3rd of 4
[07:59] <reisio> enabran: still being vague
[07:59] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: it says to restart the computer to activate that driver, shall i restart right now? If anyone of you says yes, i'll restart and will be back in 5 minutes
[07:59] <SunTsu> somebody experienced with update-initramfs? somehow conf/conf.d/cryptroot ends up containing lvm=system-root,lvm=system which is fscked up, because it tries to mount /dev/mapper/system instead of /dev/mapper/system-root, by that breaking my boot process until I mount and link stuff manually. Where would I find the culprit creating that stuff?
[08:00] <reisio> Daghdha: "10.04" is a fine way to refer to it :p
[08:00] <mkultra> yeah id restart
[08:00] <Daghdha> The list only refers to Lucid Natty and so on
[08:00] <enabran> reisio: but can we expect documentation to show up?
[08:00] <Daghdha> So my confusion grows.
[08:00] <jayant> ok..wil be back soon...thanks a lot guys
[08:00] <reisio> enabran: to show up when?
[08:01] <auronandace> !cloud | enabran
[08:01] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, which ubuntu are you using
[08:01] <|IlIIIIl|> Does QQ for Linux or mirandaqq have spyware
[08:01] <|IlIIIIl|> like myqq3 or the now defunct pidgin
[08:01] <enabran> reisio: don't know, that is basically one of my questions...
[08:01] <Daghdha> 10.04 desktop
[08:01] <enabran> ubottu: i know that one, but it is still for 10.04 based on eucalyptus...
[08:02] <mkultra> gah hang on ill make a page for your release issue
[08:02] <reisio> enabran: I'm pretty sure nobody has any idea what you want
[08:02] <auronandace> |IlIIIIl|: pidgin isn't defunct
[08:02] <|IlIIIIl|> pidgin doesn't work with QQ 2011
[08:02] <|IlIIIIl|> it previously did work with QQ
[08:02] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, 10.04 is lucid so search for one which supports lucid
[08:02] <mkultra> its cat /etc/*release
[08:02] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: i restarted!
[08:02] <auronandace> |IlIIIIl|: ah, sorry, misunderstood you
[08:02] <mkultra> k
[08:03] <enabran> reisio: well, just a documentation for the installation of a uec based on openstack with 11.10...
[08:03] <mkultra> does it say its installed / activated
[08:03] <conntrack> seriously, go for it
[08:04] <jayant> sagarchalise: i did /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p again and got the same thing
[08:05] <sagarchalise> jayant, does gtk-jokey say your driver is activated and in use
[08:06] <varikonniemi> hello, is there some workaround for the volume level slider stopping working after installing 11.10 ?
[08:06] <varikonniemi> it only has 3 modes atm, mute, ~1% and ~100%
[08:06] <jimmy8888> so does anybody know why my unity dash has stopped indexing my installed applications?
[08:07] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm using 11.10 with gnome-shell. However, compiz is not ran by default. I have to do "compiz --replace &" to start it... I've searched a lot, but don't know where to put this to automatically start compiz. I don't have the traditional "Appearance" utility anymore to enable compiz
[08:07] <jayant> sagarchalise: i tried gtk-jockey and gtk -jockey  and none of them did anything!
[08:07] <dundee> huhu
[08:07] <jayant> sagarchalise: got it from history. it says driver is activated and currently in use
[08:07] <sagarchalise> jayant, just search for drivers in your dash and see what it says about your driver, install the recommended driver
[08:08] <jayant> sagarchalise: i have the recommended driver installed and in use
[08:09] <mkultra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836890
[08:09] <mkultra> there u go hippies, donate 25,000 dollars to me for a 50 dollar bat house
[08:10] <Daghdha> ppa bs. i just run the script
[08:10] <Daghdha> dir
[08:10] <mkultra> that script is written kind of retarded
[08:10] <mkultra> but it should do the job
[08:10] <mkultra> and doesnt look malicious
[08:10] <Daghdha> using another script
[08:11] <Daghdha> wich fails
[08:11] <mkultra> you gotta make sure the PPA supports your release
[08:11] <Daghdha> 404
[08:11] <mkultra> there are not many ubuntu 11.10 ppas, but theres tons of ppas for maverick and 10.04
[08:12] <Daghdha> PPA means nothing to me i have no idea what to add or do with the urls.
[08:12] <mkultra> hang on 2 seconds, and ill build you a thread
[08:12] <auronandace> !ppa | Daghdha
[08:12] <jayant> sagarchalise: i googled for the error and got this http://askubuntu.com/questions/46065/problems-with-nvidia-drivers-on-dell-xps this guys has the same error as i have. He has 550M and i have 555M.
[08:13] <mkultra> i honestly dont trust a good 90% of the information i find about ubuntu
[08:13] <mkultra> and i doubt that thread is helping you
[08:13] <arghx> jayant: have you checked your Xorg log?
[08:13] <jayant> sagarchalise: doing an "nvidia-xconfig" gives a validation error "Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.                  Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line." and then this error: "ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'."
[08:14] <jayant> arghx: where is that log and what do i need to check in it? thanks
[08:14] <arghx> jayant: use sudo with nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <arghx> and the log is in /var/log  and you better paste it
[08:15] <Daghdha> ok so this chap has made them .. ppa:gezakovacs/mono  so i use the command line and will have it in synaptic? :  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gezakovacs/mono
[08:15] <jayant> arghx: it gave the same validation error. but instead of giving other error it backed up xorg.conf file and created a new X configuration file
[08:15] <arghx> jayant: I know. now you restart X maybe?
[08:16] <Egbert9e9> The function keys on the keyboard revert from F1-to-F12 to wifi on off, volume control etc and I have to press the Fn key in order to get to the F1-to-F12 function keys
[08:17] <jayant> arghx: how do i restart X. and how do i post my log? just copy paste everything?
[08:17] <Egbert9e9> This is weird. I've set it on the BIOS that the F1-to-F12 function keys will be the default behaviour of those keys, but sometimes it is reverted into the volume control and other media keys
[08:18] <Daghdha> Ok, i did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gezakovacs/mono
[08:18] <jayant> arghx: there are 2 logs: Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old which one do i need to post?
[08:18] <BlackBishop> any place ifconfig gets its ethernet alias information ? I don't see ethX:Y in /proc/net/dev ...
[08:18] <mkultra> log, post it to a pastebin
[08:19] <mkultra> i find the tinfoil hat alarming to be honest
[08:19] <iceroot> BlackBishop: udev
[08:19] <jayant> mkultra: pastebin! now i remember. i used it a lot last time, when i tried installing ubuntu :D
[08:19] <kleban> is it safe to install gnome 3 , without messing with current settings ?
[08:19] <BlackBishop> iceroot: please explain
[08:19] <iceroot> BlackBishop: /etc/udev/rules.d/
[08:19] <mkultra> lol
[08:20] <iceroot> BlackBishop: grep there for eth0 to see how it is build up
[08:20] <mkultra> i use pastebin for installing linux from scratch, if im hard up
[08:20] <auronandace> !gnome3 | kleban
[08:20] <mkultra> i dont generally share logs though
[08:20] <BlackBishop> iceroot: that doesn't define the aliases ! just the main interface.
[08:20] <netxshare> can I create a new LVM with out deleting one old LVM partition?
[08:20] <netxshare> I am trying to not to lose data
[08:21] <iceroot> BlackBishop: /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:21] <jayant> mkultra: arghx: here is the log: http://pastebin.com/BAqcRFNF
[08:21] <yagoo> iceroot, u know udev well?
[08:21] <BlackBishop> is that exported by the kernel ? :| Doubt it. what if I manually configure it now ..
[08:22] <iceroot> yagoo: not very well
[08:23] <jesse__> does anyone know a good site where i may browse unity window decorations and themes for ubuntu 11.10?
[08:23] <yagoo> maybe u know (not asking for anything further)-- just on the possibility internal ntfs not to show up on nautilus (I have them locked down and nonnavigable having ntfs partitions in /etc/fstab set to noauto)-- it baffled me yesterday
[08:23] <yagoo> (iceroot or anyone who may know this)
[08:23] <jayant> general question, log files are sooo big and weird. How do you people understand what's in there?
[08:23] <iceroot> jayant: with grep or search-function in less
[08:24] <yagoo> jesse__, well unity is partnered with canonical i guess-- either i'l be a ubuntu or canonical supported website
[08:24] <netxshare> here is my filesystem http://www.privatepaste.com/fae58efe9b
[08:24] <yagoo> jayant, they're repetitious.
[08:24] <yagoo> lol
[08:24] <Daghdha> is 10.04 Maverick?
[08:24] <jesse__> yagoo: do you know of one? or does everyone just use the default themes/window decorations that come pre loaded?
[08:24] <iceroot> Daghdha: lucid
[08:24] <szal> jayant: if you can read you clearly have an advantage, that goes for log files too..  you get an eye for what to look for in there
[08:24] <jayant> iceroot: thats when you are looking for something in it. but say, when i uploaded a log, how do they look in it and tell where (or what) the problem is ?
[08:24] <Ush4O> hi. is there no minimal install (command line system) option on the new (11.10) boot image?
[08:24] <yagoo> jesse__, well u can try "unity theme site:wikipedia.org" (google)
[08:25] <jayant> yagoo: why don't they make them small then?
[08:25] <arghx> jayant: how does a car mechanic know what is wrong with your car?
[08:25] <yagoo> jesse__, or "list of unity themes" ubuntu wiki
[08:25] <jayant> szal: yeah, thats true
[08:25] <jesse__> thanks yagoo, i'll give it a try
[08:25] <iceroot> jayant: timestamp is a good start, to know when it happens, that makes searching easier
[08:25] <jayant> arghx: experience :D
[08:25] <szal> jayant: some logs already have some initial info that tells you what to look for in case of error
[08:25] <iceroot> jayant: also the error-message can maybe be found there but its depending on the case
[08:25] <jayant> iceroot: timestamp! new word. i think i will remember it
[08:25] <yagoo> jayant, you can change the verbosity level.. but i don't think that's necessary.. people just use grep
[08:26] <yagoo> jayant, there's "supercat" (pacakge sc).. which can colorize console logs
[08:26] <ghabit> Hello. Fresh install ubuntu.  How I can see cpu load?
[08:26] <iceroot> ghabit: top
[08:26] <yagoo> ghabit, so u got that netbook workin ?
[08:26] <varikonniemi> so, 11.10 made the sound slider not working, it will mute/unmute, make it so faint u can almost not hear it, or then full volume. Is there some workaround for this?
[08:26] <mkultra> mavericks 10.10
[08:26] <ghabit> yagoo, netbook too, thank you ^)
[08:26] <yagoo> cool
[08:27] <ghabit> yagoo, what is nice and easy file sharing system for ubuntu?
[08:27] <ghabit> pc-notebook-netbook files sharing
[08:27] <yagoo> ghabit, um.. not sure .. i don't know the GUI ins and outs.. but i do know it's a joke with ssh..
[08:27] <jayant> yagoo: sounds really cool...
[08:27] <jayant> thanks a lot everyone for all the info
[08:28] <yagoo> ghabit, u may be able to use fish:// sshhfs:// ssh:// something like this in nautilus (( u can even test ur running ssh server locally)
[08:28] <yagoo> ghabit, there's all kind of gui gadgets i dont know about..
[08:29] <Daghdha> I add ppa:gezakovacs/mono but it keeps adding maverick
[08:29] <yagoo> ghabit, but sftp (which is like ftp.. but runs under ssh)) -- takes no setup.. just apt-get install ssh.. and sftp is read
[08:29] <yagoo> ready
[08:29] <Daghdha> I only see maverickitems  in my package ilist
[08:29] <iceroot> Daghdha: cat /etc/issue
[08:29] <jasef> I think Nautilus uses sftp by default when you connect to an SSH server.
[08:30] <ghabit> yagoo, need smth for my girl ^)
[08:30] <Daghdha> 10.10 o_O
[08:30] <Daghdha> i has 10.10?!
[08:30] <yagoo> ghabit, oh ya.. i also notice a "Connect to.." from the places menu.. i never got used to using the gui for this.. u can try that too..
[08:30] <Daghdha> thanks iceroot
[08:30] <reisio> jasef: since sftp is ssh...
[08:31]  * yagoo says filezilla is multiplatform client.. and can access sftp easily
[08:31] <iceroot> Daghdha: what is the output of that command?
[08:31] <Daghdha> 10.10
[08:31] <Daghdha> and some otehr text
[08:31] <Daghdha> \n 'l
[08:31] <EsbenH> funny thing this where-did-my-window-go-now game of oneiric....
[08:31] <iceroot> Daghdha: then you are using ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[08:31] <Daghdha> grrr.. :)
[08:31] <Daghdha> i thought 10.04..
[08:31] <varikonniemi> so is 11.10 flawless in your opinion, or why are you not even recognizing my question?
[08:32] <Daghdha> Maverick Meerkat .. so synaptic smarter than me ;)
[08:32] <auronandace> varikonniemi: maybe nobody here has had the same problem as you
[08:32] <jasef> varikonniemi, People only usually answer if they have any idea how to fix it - I have 11.10 and have never seen that problem, so I dunno how.
[08:32] <yagoo> ghabit, if you want to do a modern way of sharing (i think ssh is pretty great as a fileserver using sftp)--- u can check out webdav-- but this requires much more homework (who knows maybe there are easy install wizards for this)
[08:33] <EgyParadox> is there a channel for celebration?
[08:33] <varikonniemi> auronandace, so this is not an official channel, but a community one? i see
[08:33] <benoliver999> EgyParadox: Is there a cause?
[08:33] <varikonniemi> an official cahnnel would be interested in at least collecting the bug report and file it, or something
[08:33] <reisio> EgyParadox: #yay
[08:33] <iceroot> varikonniemi: this is the official channel for ubuntu
[08:33] <iceroot> !bug | varikonniemi
[08:33] <auronandace> !bug | varikonniemi
[08:34] <varikonniemi> yeah, i see, well i am not a computer geek, so those launchapad and stuff really goes over my head
[08:34] <yagoo> ghabit, google this-> "list of file sharing software site:wikipedia.org"
[08:34] <EgyParadox> Since the first Ubuntu was released today?
[08:34] <iceroot> varikonniemi: try the ubuntu-bug command, its very easy
[08:34] <EgyParadox> like today*
[08:34] <Wild_Cat> Quick question: in Oneiric, how can I get alt-tab to only toggle between applications *on the current workspace*, as was the case in earlier versions?
[08:34] <iceroot> varikonniemi: no special knowledge needed, just use the command and give a short description about your problem
[08:35] <varikonniemi> i was just expecting a canonical emplyee would be here to answer/document bug reports or something, io don't honestly know how the model works
[08:35]  * Daghdha crosses fingers, presses 'apply' and gets ready to blame everyoen but himself if this goes wrong :)
[08:35] <iceroot> EgyParadox: ?
[08:35] <yagoo> ghabit, there's many solutions for file sharing.. it's how complex you want it.. the simplest one is the one i mentioned..
[08:35] <jasef> varikonniemi, Uh... no, this is a free OS, they don't pay people to hang around to answer questions or stuff :(
[08:35] <iceroot> varikonniemi: with what program you have a problem/bug?
[08:35] <ghabit> yagoo, I think I will just install samba on ubuntu.
[08:35] <reisio> jasef: they do actually :p
[08:35] <reisio> but not very many
[08:36] <jasef> reisio, O-o. I haven't ever noticed any employees around here...
[08:36] <varikonniemi> iceroot, my volume slider stopped working after 11.10
[08:36] <EgyParadox> iceroot, http://planet.ubuntu.com/ <- the first post
[08:36] <reisio> jasef: IME they stick mostly to yelling about the topic
[08:36] <varikonniemi> it has 3 modes, mute 1% and 100%
[08:36] <yagoo> (and of course SSH kicksass with seucurity-- don't go FTP as it sux-- maybe vsftp/proftpd is good << BUT problems with firewall as ftp use 2 ports)
[08:36] <EgyParadox> !sftp
[08:36] <reisio> for its homepage :/
[08:36] <jasef> reisio, lol. That sounds fun.
[08:36] <iceroot> varikonniemi: stopped working means?
[08:36] <reisio> putty is also available for Unixland
[08:36] <reisio> jasef: sounds like a great way to spend your time
[08:37] <varikonniemi> iceroot, <varikonniemi> it has 3 modes, mute 1% and 100%
[08:37] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you cant move the slider? you can move it but no effect?
[08:37] <yagoo> ghabit, you should start moving forward from samba (this is just my humble opinion)-- try setting up nfs or webdav..
[08:37] <jasef> reisio, If I could get paid for that, I'd do it.
[08:37] <iceroot> varikonniemi: ok
[08:37] <reisio> jasef: it's what security guards do, basically
[08:37] <ghabit> yagoo, thx, I wil ltry.
[08:37] <yagoo> ghabit, the reason is that www is going forward with webdav..
[08:37] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you are using normal ubuntu with unity?
[08:37] <reisio> policemen, principals, etc.
[08:37] <varikonniemi> iceroot, yes
[08:37] <jasef> reisio, I'm stuck applying to a billion places for holiday work though.
[08:37] <yagoo> ghabit, webdav made also for web.. smb not so..
[08:37] <varikonniemi> iceroot, clean install
[08:38] <yagoo> ghabit, webdav is http:// with write extensions..
[08:38] <yagoo> ghabit, as well as webdav can be secured as https:// with extensions
[08:39] <Daghdha> yagoo: My windows filemanager dies on certain NFS mapped folders :) It was quite curious
[08:39] <reisio> jasef: just move somewhere where there aren't stupid holidays
[08:39] <varikonniemi> iceroot, i had numerous other problems besides this, but i have managed to work around those with the help of google. This is the one really annoying standing
[08:39] <Daghdha> I have a 3rd party filemanager
[08:39] <brandonc503> how do i whisper a certain person?
[08:39] <iceroot> varikonniemi: "ubuntu-bug indicator-applet-complete" to report your bug
[08:39] <llutz_> brandonc503: /msg nick bal
[08:39] <brandonc503> tnx
[08:40] <iceroot> varikonniemi: just descripe there your problem, thats all (and you need a launchpad-account) then someone will look at your issue and contact you/fix the issue
[08:40] <pdq> how can one check what desktop environment they are logged into from terminal?
[08:40] <yagoo> pdq, maybe one of the set env variables
[08:40] <varikonniemi> iceroot, yeah i will look into that, register and try sending some report..
[08:40] <iceroot> varikonniemi: great
[08:40] <jasef> reisio, Lol, but I like holidays... more hours available to work in :P I desperately need to get a job.
[08:41] <iceroot> varikonniemi: that should be the best way so the persons can ask you about more infos about fixing the problem and so on
[08:41] <Engin> 11.10 image md5sums are missing, and why is x64 stil not recommended ?
[08:41] <auronandace> Engin: 32bit is only recommended because it works on both
[08:42] <iceroot> Engin: because not every cpu can use amd64 so its stupid to suggest amd64 to persons which can only use 32bit
[08:42] <iceroot> !md5
[08:42] <iceroot> !md5sum
[08:42] <varikonniemi> iceroot, it said indicator-applet-complete does not exist
[08:42] <Daghdha> Got 2.10 now for mono. Thanks for helping out mkultra, iceroot, auronandace, sagarchalise and reisio. And everyone else :P
[08:43] <auronandace> !hash | Engin
[08:43] <iceroot> Engin: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/MD5SUMS
[08:43] <auronandace> !hashes | Engin
[08:43] <randomusr> anyone running on Macbook Pro?
[08:43] <iceroot> !anyone | randomusr
[08:43] <rapt> hi
[08:43] <reisio> randomusr: macbook pro users, I'm sure
[08:43] <van7hu> hi, how could I link against libcrypto in ubuntu? I am using C
[08:43] <iceroot> !mac | randomusr
[08:44] <mkultra> no problem Daghdha
[08:44] <reisio> van7hu: #friendly-coders
[08:44] <van7hu> reisio, okay
[08:44] <benoliver999> jasef: I'm awful with emoticons, is :3 a mustache?
[08:44] <reisio> benoliver999: it's a walrus
[08:44] <jasef> Is not
[08:44] <jasef> It's a cat face.
[08:45] <randomusr> let's try this again.... I'm using 10.10 and want to know if there's any issues if I upgrade to 11.04.
[08:45] <iceroot> randomusr: normally not
[08:45] <randomusr> using the mactel ppa's
[08:45] <iceroot> randomusr: but have a backup before upgrading is always a good idea
[08:45] <iceroot> randomusr: ah on mac... i dont know, luckily i am not using something like that
[08:46] <randomusr> iceroot, do I need to do anything with the ppa repos?
[08:46] <randomusr> ah
[08:46] <iceroot> randomusr: but normally there should not be a problem with mac also
[08:46] <devians> hey, i have ubuntu 10.10 in a vm with 2 nics, lspci shows both nics but ifconfig only seems to know about one. where should i start looking to troubleshoot this?
[08:46] <iceroot> randomusr: they will be disabled automaticly
[08:46] <jasef> I know i asked this before - but I think it's been long enough to ask again. Anyone have any idea if Xubuntu has less power usage that Ubuntu? I get really bad battery life atm on this netbook under Ubuntu
[08:46] <iceroot> devians: ifconfig -a  should show both
[08:47] <randomusr> iceroot, are the mactel ppa's specific to distro or just based on which macbook you have?
[08:47] <devians> iceroot ok, duh. cant believe i forgot that
[08:47] <iceroot> jasef: its more like a kernel-problem not a gui problem (there are open bugs for that)
[08:47] <reisio> jasef: hard to imagine it not having less
[08:47] <devians> so to drop this card onto dhcp i should just add it to /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:47] <iceroot> randomusr: specific to distro
[08:48] <iceroot> devians: if you are not using network-manager, yes
[08:48] <devians> er, its a fresh install, im not using anything. what is network manager?
[08:48] <iceroot> devians: you have a gui? or is it a headless server?
[08:48] <jimmy8888> my laptop does not have a windows key and thus i do not have a "super key"... is there a way to reconfigure the super key in unity-2d ??
[08:48] <devians> iceroot headless
[08:49] <iceroot> devians: then use /etc/network/interfaces
[08:49] <devians> kk
[08:51] <peter-sdlkfjad> I use Xubuntu. Until recently, my sound worked fine. Now, not. I created another account, and the sound works for that, but still not for mine. Does anyone have any solutions that are... user-based?
[08:52] <arvut> hi, can anyone in here who has some experience in debugging banshee please have a look at this?: http://pastebin.com/ccC4Z5X5
[08:52] <peter-sdlkfjad> ...or can direct me to a useful website?
[08:52] <jasef> peter-sdlkfjad, Eh.. not really sure but sounds like an issue with your pulseaudio config.
[08:53] <devians> when mounting cifs shares in ubuntu, if you hit permission denied, how to tell if thats a problem with the mount or with the servers permission config?
[08:53] <jasef> peter-sdlkfjad, This is just a guess but... you could try putting the following line in a terminal: 'rm -rf ~/.pulse' and relogging, but it's just a guess
[08:54] <jasef> peter-sdlkfjad, run that in the user without sound, I mean.
[08:55] <devians> actually, i think this is on the client side. im mounting to /storage/media, which is root:root and rw-r--r--. the mounted filesystem comes up as d??????? for everything,
[08:57] <peter-adfadfaj> Sound working :')Thank you jasef.
[08:57] <Engin> auronandace: iceroot: so 64-bit is recommended for 64-bit CPUs ? :)
[08:58] <jasef> peter-adfadfaj, np :)
[08:58] <yagoo> devians, u need to know ur server permissions.
[08:58] <iceroot> Engin: if your hardware supports amd64, yes the amd64 version of ubuntu is recommend
[08:58] <auronandace> Engin: yes, unless you rely on something that doesn't work on 64bit (which is rather rare)
[08:59] <jasef> My laptop is an Atom - I bought it earlier this year, and it's only 32-bit capable
[08:59] <arvut> repeating as it's quite urgent: http://pastebin.com/ccC4Z5X5 please help me =)
[09:00] <devians> yagoo, client logs in as herald, server has herald in media group, permissions on the share and contents are generally :media 755.
[09:00] <Engin> well, i'm downloading for a i7
[09:00] <Engin> with 4 HT cores I guess
[09:00] <iceroot> Engin: so its supporting amd64
[09:00] <jasef> Lol, I'd get AMD64 then :P
[09:00] <Engin> jfyi, the site gives the impression that 64-bit is not stable
[09:01] <Engin> so 32-bit is recommended, that's what i thought
[09:01] <iceroot> Engin: its stable
[09:01] <arvut> Engin: which i7 are you running? and how much ram?
[09:01] <auronandace> Engin: 64bit works great for me
[09:01] <jasef> Engin, 32-bit is recommended because there are still computers being sold without 64-bit capable hardware (mainly netbooks)
[09:01] <iceroot> Engin: how much ram?
[09:01] <devians> yagoo i can see the contents of the mount, just go no further. if thats any indication?
[09:01] <Engin> jasef: so better text would be "if you are not sure if your computer supports 64-bit or not, please download 32-bit version"
[09:02] <auronandace> Engin: essentially yes
[09:02] <jasef> Engin, yeah, basically.
[09:02] <Engin> iceroot: no idea, 6 I guess.
[09:02] <iceroot> Engin: with 6gb you MUST use amd64
[09:02] <arghx> iceroot: not really :)
[09:02] <iceroot> Engin: or you only have ~3.3g ram
[09:02] <Engin> linux can address <4GB with a module
[09:02] <iceroot> arghx: dont come with pae
[09:02] <arvut> Engin: should say: "please do dare to try, if everything else fails, fall back to working solution =)"
[09:03] <arghx> iceroot: not even pae is necessary (not exactly a good solution either, but still doable)
[09:03] <iceroot> arghx: what is the other way without pae and without amd64?
[09:04] <arghx> running a amd64 kernel with a 32bit userland
[09:04] <iceroot> arghx: without amd64
[09:04] <iceroot> arghx: using an amd64 kernel with 32bit userland is much more useless then pae...
[09:06] <arvut> iceroot: i installed ubuntu 10.04 64bit on a core2 duo laptop that has 4gb ram and it only shows 3.5gb so there is a issue there too I guess.. or its me missing something? (could it be the 1024 thing again?..)
[09:06] <Engin> arvut: my display adapter taking shared memory.
[09:06] <Engin> maybe*
[09:06] <arvut> Engin: ah yes.. that might be it.
[09:07] <iceroot> arvut: can you paste "uname -r" and "free -m" and "proc /dev/meminfo"?
[09:07] <iceroot> arvut: ah or your vga is stealing it, yes
[09:07] <raven> how to find out the bin path of an application?
[09:07] <iceroot> raven: "which app"
[09:07] <Semtex> someone please help! I have lost root access on my ubuntu 11.10
[09:08] <arvut> did notice that when I started my "new" ex-win98se laptop that has 128mb ram. had to modify shared mem for gfx in bios and share atleast 32mb in order to start system rescue cd with alternative kernel (32bit gentoo build)
[09:08] <raven> iceroot, tnx
[09:08] <iceroot> Semtex: great, we dont support root-accounts here
[09:08] <yagoo> Semtex, "root" is a very ambiguous term. Speak carefully
[09:08] <iceroot> Semtex: so use sudo as before
[09:08] <Semtex> I cant sudo
[09:08] <Semtex> I set password to none in user settings
[09:08] <Semtex> now I cant sudo
[09:08] <yagoo> lol
[09:08] <Semtex> I am screwed
[09:08] <iceroot> Semtex: ...
[09:09] <arvut> iceroot: sorry no, not yet atleast. its my friends laptop and hes pretty much asleep and out of reach atm.
[09:09] <iceroot> Semtex: have you also setup a root-account?
[09:09] <Semtex> n
[09:09] <Semtex> no
[09:09] <llutz_> Semtex: live-cd, chroot
[09:09] <iceroot> Semtex: passwd  and change your password
[09:09] <yagoo> Semtex, use rescue boot (installer dvd) and chroot to change password
[09:09] <yagoo> Semtex, once chrooted, use passwd command
[09:09] <Semtex> ok thanks guys
[09:09] <iceroot> Semtex: or how do you set the password emtpy?
[09:09] <Semtex> no idea
[09:10] <Semtex> I think I done it through the user settings screen
[09:10] <iceroot> Semtex: normally "passwd" should work to setup a correct password, after that you can use sudo again
[09:10] <Semtex> there is an option to set password to none
[09:10] <iceroot> Semtex: just type "passwd" in the terminal
[09:10] <Semtex> ok cheers guys
[09:10] <conntrack> plop, plop, plop
[09:10] <arvut> iceroot: tried that proc command, my 11.04 build on this sad machine returned the "no command" error.. typo?
[09:11] <jasef> If I have like 60GB available, what's a nice sensible split between two partitions for Ubuntu (/ and /home)
[09:11] <iceroot> arvut: cat /proc/meminfo
[09:11] <Egbert9e9> so how do I make my F1-to-F12 keys to be F keys and not media keys
[09:12] <reisio> Egbert9e9: laptop?
[09:12] <reisio> take your time, think about it, get back to me
[09:12] <Egbert9e9> reisio: yep
[09:13] <reisio> which laptop?
[09:13] <Egbert9e9> Inspiron 1090
[09:13] <Semtex> thanks iceroot
[09:13] <Semtex> that worked great
[09:13] <skaa> hi
[09:13] <iceroot> Semtex: fine
[09:13] <arvut> skaa: welcome to ubuntu support =)
[09:13] <iceroot> Semtex: please dont use an empty password in the future, its a  big security issue
[09:14] <Egbert9e9> I've told BIOS that F1-to-F12 will be the default mode and that media keys will be Fn-F key combination
[09:14] <Semtex> iceroot: you dont have to tell me, I know! thats why I came on here in a panic!
[09:14] <iceroot> Semtex: :)
[09:14] <Semtex> iceroot: I think I have found a bug tho
[09:14] <iceroot> Semtex: which?
[09:14] <reisio> Egbert9e9: and they're still being used for media keys?
[09:15] <Semtex> the user accounts screen lets you set a blank password
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: that sudo is not working with empty passwords?
[09:15] <Semtex> even on a root acount
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: can you paste a screenshot?
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: there is no root-account by default
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: there is no enabled root-account by default
[09:15] <Egbert9e9> reisio: Sometimes I'll boot into a session in which media keys are the default and I will only get F1-to-F12 when pressed with Fn
[09:16] <skaa> hey
[09:16] <Semtex> iceroot: thats somthing else
[09:16] <Egbert9e9> reisio: Fn has a functionality like Alt, Shift and Ctrl
[09:16] <iceroot> !bug | Semtex
[09:16] <Egbert9e9> reisio: so it's pretty frustrating
[09:16] <reisio> yeah sounds like your BIOS is lame
[09:16] <reisio> Dell BIOSes usually are, though
[09:16] <arvut> iceroot: if I can't restore a hibernated 11.04 session (with encrypted home) and have 1952 swap (total) and 2002 total mem, is there a way to expand the swap so that it will work?
[09:16] <reisio> Egbert9e9: would check for a BIOS update first
[09:17] <Egbert9e9> ah
[09:17] <Egbert9e9> Thanks
[09:17] <iceroot> arvut: your swap is a partition or a file?
[09:17] <reisio> Egbert9e9: and if that doesn't work you can fix it with xmodmap or something like that
[09:17] <Semtex> iceroot: hold on I will take a screenshot
[09:17] <arvut> iceroot: partition ofcourse
[09:17] <iceroot> arvut: then i guess gparted to resize your swap-partition
[09:17] <arvut> I don't like hiberfiles
[09:17] <arvut> iceroot: while I'm logged in? or with live cd?
[09:18] <Semtex> actually a screen capture isnt going to do it
[09:18] <iceroot> arvut: while the partitions are not mounted
[09:18] <arvut> all of swap is free btw
[09:18] <iceroot> arvut: so normally a live-cd
[09:18] <arvut> k, but can I umount swap?
[09:18] <iceroot> arvut: but you have to resize another partiton to get free space i guess
[09:19] <iceroot> arvut: swapoff -a
[09:19] <petionet> :P
[09:19] <petionet> i have a sexy hostname
[09:19] <[Sanyi]> bless you..
[09:19] <[Sanyi]> :P
[09:19] <jasef> Nah, you don't :P
[09:19] <iceroot> petionet: you have a support-question?
[09:19] <petionet> inspect me :D
[09:19] <arvut> iceroot: not really an issue, made space for future installs but will format the whole disk soon as I have 10gb unusable space atm..
[09:19] <petionet> ok ill kick myself
[09:20] <iceroot> arvut: ah ok
[09:21] <arvut> question tho, if /home is encrypted (and its own partition), can I then use it if I reinstall the rest?
[09:21] <iceroot> arvut: if you have the key or passphrase, yes
[09:22] <arvut> iceroot: as I thought.. i certainly hope so then. will have a look..
[09:22] <jvm_> arvut, you can only mount it with the encryption key you should have written down at installation time -- you can access it with ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase
[09:22] <wallaby> I'm using a new install of ubuntu 11.10 and firefox takes a long time to load and makes the disk very active for a long time, can anyone help?
[09:23] <iceroot> arvut: best is try mounting it from a live-session to see if you can mount it correctly from a different system. just to e sure
[09:23] <arvut> jvm_: ah, so if I do that before reinstall, I can rescue it?
[09:23] <arvut> iceroot: will give it a shot
[09:24] <lanc> hi all - for 8G laptop RAM, do I go with 32bit install+PAE or do I go straight with 64bit?
[09:24] <hellofoo> what does various app like filezilla, pidgin use to send desktop notifications on my 11.04 gnome ?
[09:24] <applesouce> hi
[09:24] <jvm_> arvut, right.
[09:24] <iceroot> lanc: amd64
[09:24] <jvm_> theoretically. no one has ever tried :p
[09:24] <Semtex> ok iceroot I have just recorded a screencapture of the 'bug
[09:24] <iceroot> hellofoo: dbus
[09:24] <Semtex> if its ok I would like you to have a look
[09:25] <iceroot> Semtex: url?
[09:25] <lanc> iceroot: so 32bit+PAE kernel isn't anymore an option?
[09:25] <hellofoo> iceroot: how can i send a notification to my desktop from terminal ?
[09:25] <arvut> hmm.. not sure I understand ecryptfs..
[09:25] <Semtex> just uploading
[09:25] <arvut> should I rtm?
[09:25] <applesouce> I've bought a Notebook and wanted to ask what partitions I should use
[09:25] <applesouce> I have 320 GB HDD and want to have Ubuntu and Windows
[09:25] <iceroot> lanc: it was never a good option
[09:25] <arvut> or would you care to explain?
[09:25] <lanc> iceroot: okay, thanks
[09:25] <wallaby> is this the Ubuntu support channel?
[09:25] <iceroot> wallaby: yes
[09:25] <reisio> applesouce: half and half?
[09:26] <wallaby> I'm using a new install of ubuntu 11.10 and firefox takes a long time to load and makes the disk very active for a long time, can anyone help?
[09:26] <reisio> applesouce: if you're going to use Windows for big games, you might give it a little more <shrug>
[09:26] <mkultra> why did my alt+f2 stop loading run dialog?
[09:26] <applesouce> Yes that's what I thought too but I on't if it is enough
[09:26] <arvut> wallaby: have you used ubuntu before?
[09:26] <applesouce> I don't know I don't really want to play games on the Notebook
[09:26] <reisio> applesouce: it's plenty for each OS and plenty of 3rd party software for each
[09:26] <applesouce> it's more for programming and Video + Audio Cut
[09:26] <reisio> applesouce: okay then you won't need to give Windows more
[09:26] <applesouce> yes I think of giving Windows less^^
[09:26] <wallaby> not really
[09:27] <mkultra> jayant, wake up im back
[09:27] <reisio> applesouce: you can store ordinary files on either partition and copy to and from, so it's just a matter of program files
[09:27] <applesouce> but
[09:27] <lanc> also - on http://help.ubuntu.com Oneiric has the same version as Natty. Guess you guys know that already?
[09:27] <wallaby> arvut: but i'm good with computers
[09:27] <applesouce> when I make two partitions
[09:27] <arvut> wallaby: I suggest you give 10.04 a try, less bugs to annoy you for now =)
[09:27] <Semtex> iceroot: its a 6MB mpeg thats 2:14 long
[09:27] <jayant> mkultra :i am awake :D
[09:27] <Semtex> iceroot: http://www.exile8.webspace.virginmedia.com/test-0000.mpeg
[09:27] <applesouce> I can't format one as NTFS and one as Fat32 or?
[09:27] <reisio> applesouce: hrmm?
[09:28] <Semtex> iceroot: might want to download or open in vlc
[09:28] <reisio> applesouce: make two partitions, let Windows' installer format the first as NTFS, let Ubuntu's installer format the second as whatever you like
[09:28] <iceroot> Semtex: i am talking about pictures
[09:28] <iceroot> Semtex: not videos
[09:28] <lanc> reisio: and swap?
[09:29] <applesouce> what would be the best for Ubuntu?
[09:29] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[09:29] <Semtex> iceroot: I dont have time to take separate screenshots
[09:29] <reisio> lanc: up to applesouce
[09:29] <wallaby> arvut: ok is that a general rule with ubuntu?  Will 11.10 give me the advertised Ubuntu, quick and easy, experiance?
[09:29] <reisio> applesouce: I think it uses ext4 by default, which is okay
[09:29] <wallaby> arvut: *10.04
[09:29] <hellofoo> iceroot: so which program (command from bash) will help me to send a notification ?
[09:29] <iceroot> Semtex: i just want to see a screenshot of the gui which is offwering to set an empty password
[09:29] <applesouce> ok
[09:29] <reisio> applesouce: you might want to leave space for a third partition for Ubuntu's swap, equal to the amount of RAM
[09:29] <yellabs-r2> alway's when i start google chrome it asks for my keyring, how can i avoid this ? tips are welcome :)
[09:29] <reisio> applesouce: unless you have less than a gig of RAM, then possibly twice the size
[09:29] <iceroot> hellofoo: dont know i am not using dbus very often
[09:29] <applesouce> 4GB
[09:30] <reisio> k
[09:30] <robinsch> hi
[09:30] <applesouce> Should be enough or
[09:30] <reisio> if you leave the second half for Ubuntu, the installer will work that out for you
[09:30] <Loopus> Hi,  I am having a problem with Ubuntu 10.4 was hoping somoene could help me, If I go to Appearance, visual effects and then choose normal I get the message "Desktop effects could not be enabled" I am stuck at "none" setting
[09:30] <applesouce> should I still use swamp
[09:30] <reisio> applesouce: I would, yes, particularly for a portable
[09:30] <Loopus> without this I can not use Gnome Do or Docky, it was working yesterday I turn on today and its broke any ideas ?
[09:30] <applesouce> how much?
[09:30] <reisio> applesouce: it's utilized for suspend/hibernate, among other things
[09:30] <robinsch> anyone else not being able to access user accounts settings?
[09:30] <robinsch> anyone else not being able to access user accounts settings?
[09:30] <reisio> applesouce: I'd go with 4GB, but you could just let the installer use whatever it likes
[09:30] <robinsch> oops
[09:30] <lanc> hellofoo: there is an xmesg xnotify or so command popping up a window on $DISPLAY and offering buttons (Yes/No/Cancel/whatever)
[09:31] <Semtex> iceroot: its not that simple its a bug
[09:31] <applesouce> So the Ubuntu Installer configurates the things by himself?
[09:31] <devians> hey guys, when i add a cifs mount to /etc/fstab, the resulting filesystem is mounted as root:root, can i change the ownership on it? is it as simple as chown or do i need to change the mount?
[09:31] <reisio> applesouce: yes by default
[09:31] <robinsch> can everyone open up the user account settings would a "segmentation fault"
[09:31] <reisio> applesouce: you say where to install to, and what filesystem
[09:31] <Loopus> any idea why "Desktop effects could not be enabled" in Appearance settings ? I am stuck to use "none"  this was working yesterday but its broke today wheni turn on
[09:31] <reisio> applesouce: unless you opt to use a more advanced configuration
[09:32] <robinsch> ?
[09:32] <wallaby> ANYONE: Will 11.04. rather than 11.10, give me the advertised Ubuntu, quick and easy, experiance?
[09:32] <Semtex> iceroot: On the user accounts screen there is an option to change your password, clicking on that opens a new window. On that window there is a dropdown box with the option 'login without a password'. THIS WILL REMOVE YOUR ROOT PASSWORD
[09:32] <reisio> wallaby: aren't they both advertized?
[09:33] <wallaby> reisio: ?
[09:33] <Semtex> iceroot: see http://www.exile8.webspace.virginmedia.com/test-0000.mpeg for more info
[09:33] <reisio> wallaby: what is it you're after
[09:33] <Semtex> iceroot: if you dont want to dl I can upload to youtube
[09:33] <robinsch> please help me
[09:33] <Loopus> anyone know why my graphics have stopped working, it says "Desktop effects could nto be enabled" it used to work yesterday
[09:33] <wallaby> reisio: the 'promoted' experiance rather than hangs and having to throw lots of commands at a prompt
[09:33] <Semtex> iceroot: I just want to know if it is worth reporting as a bug
[09:33] <robinsch> is user accounts working at all for anyone?
[09:34] <reisio> wallaby: theoretically any release will give you that
[09:34] <robinsch> just wanna know if I am alone with this issue
[09:34] <Semtex> robinsch: in what sence? lol
[09:34] <reisio> wallaby: there's no magic version that is completely immune to bugs
[09:34] <Semtex> robinsch: you shouldn’t have a segmentation fault if thats what you mean
[09:35] <robinsch> Semtex: the GTK+ widget that runs when you click on user accounts in settings
[09:35] <wallaby> reisio: 11.10 isn't and i'm new through the gate, so i'm after a good first impression, what i've had so far isn't that
[09:35] <robinsch> Semtex: ya I get a segmentation fault and it crashes
[09:35] <Loopus> why does my graphics not have composite enabled anymore ? It was working yesterday I turned off, turn back on today and nothing works???
[09:36] <wallaby> reisio: without getting to deep yes i appriciate that nothing is perfect, but will 11.10 be closer to white than 11.10?
[09:36] <reisio> wallaby: you might want 10.04 LTS, then, it's supported until 2013, and then after that you might have to switch to one of the newer buggier versions anyways
[09:36] <robinsch> I noticed the issue started when I installed ccsm
[09:36] <PhoenixSTF> how do i create a ext4 fs, for large files
[09:36] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: ?
[09:36] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, what options should i use?
[09:36] <robinsch> can anyone confirm this?
[09:37] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: what makes you think the default options won't suffice?
[09:37] <skyball> #fux0r
[09:37] <wallaby> reisio: well at lease thats on par with the bloated buggy commercial os i'm used to
[09:37] <Semtex> iceroot: so is it a bug? should I report it?
[09:37] <Loopus> nobody has answer to my graphics problem ?
[09:37] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, because if I have and accident like I had on a fs, fsck will take forever....
[09:37] <Semtex> iceroot: or am I being an idiot?
[09:37] <wallaby> reisio: where can i find 11.04 LTS?
[09:37] <reisio> wallaby: yeah, too bad Ubuntu seems to be so on par with that OS :p
[09:38] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, and performance for 200mg + files decreases
[09:38] <reisio> wallaby: you can't, the next LTS release is 12.04, yet to happen
[09:38] <reisio> wallaby: and that quite possibly won't have the more stable GNOME 2 available, either, and likely won't use it as default even if it is available
[09:39] <Semtex> wallaby: http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/ but 11.04 isnt LTS
[09:39] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: your time would probably be better spent implementing a backup system to avoid that situation
[09:39] <Semtex> wallaby: last LTS was 10.04
[09:39]  * reisio sighs
[09:40] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, its on a RAID but still accidents can hapen, i just want a fast FS, to check and use
[09:40] <llutz_> PhoenixSTF: RAID is no backup-replacemet
[09:40] <locodir-user> useradd -m - s /bin/bash opensrf
[09:40] <locodir-user> useradd -m - s /bin/bash opensrf
[09:40] <llutz_> nd
[09:41] <locodir-user> i m trying this commamnd to create
[09:41] <locodir-user> user
[09:41] <PhoenixSTF> llutz, no but its the best i can on a personal budget!
[09:41] <stcatto> hello
[09:41] <locodir-user> but its giving me error
[09:41] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm using 11.10 with gnome-shell. However, compiz is not ran by default. I have to do "compiz --replace &" to start it... I've searched a lot, but don't know where to put this to automatically start compiz. I don't have the traditional "Appearance" utility anymore to enable compiz
[09:41] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: sounds like a waste of time, but I guess you want the -i/-I options
[09:41] <llutz_> PhoenixSTF: bad idea if your data is important
[09:41] <locodir-user> useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later
[09:41] <Loopus> does anyone know why all of a sudden my Ubuntu 10.4 says "Desktop effects could not be enabled" in the appearance settings, It was working yesterday... without desktop effects I can not use my Gnome do or Docky...please help :(
[09:42] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, inode size? what do you advice?
[09:42] <reisio> Loopus: what'd you change
[09:42] <Loopus> nothing
[09:42] <Loopus> i turned it off last night
[09:42] <Loopus> turn on today...broke
[09:42] <Loopus> :(
[09:42] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: I already advised using the defaults...
[09:42] <FloodBot1> Loopus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <reisio> Loopus: try rebooting?
[09:42] <Loopus> tried that
[09:42] <PhoenixSTF> llutz, yes i agree data is important, that why raid 5 and a large ups
[09:42] <Satanaa> Anyone else got issues with unity and thunderbird? for me it doesnt show email count :/
[09:42] <locodir-user> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later
[09:43] <stcatto> one question, i have a COM port device (Barcode scanner) and i want to connect them like keyboard, how may i do that?
[09:43] <PhoenixSTF> llutz, the RAID 5 is the backup NAS of the home PC's
[09:43] <wallaby>                                               thnks everyone i'm being kicked out of my office fire alarm
[09:43] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, ty m8
[09:44] <stanman246> hi in here, how do i reinitialize audio?
[09:44] <Loopus> at most reisio there have been normal updates
[09:44] <zamba> i'm running a host with lvm in vmware.. i have no increased the size of the disk, but how do i now grow the root partition to fill up the new space?
[09:44] <zamba> can this be done live?
[09:44] <Loopus> but I havent made any changes to drivers etc
[09:44] <stanman246> i somehow fumbled my panning L-R wrong, but can't afford to restart the machine
[09:45] <devians> hey, i have two nics, and something is wrong in the config and keeps overwriting resolve.conf so my dns doesnt work. how to fix?
[09:45] <llutz_> devians: install resolvconf-package, add your dns to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:46] <devians> llutz_ i cant install anything because i cant see the internet atm
[09:46] <llutz_> devians: /etc/resolv.conf is not meant to be edited manually
[09:46] <Loopus> does anyone know why desktop effects would suddenly stop working ? and get "Desktop effects could not be enabled" in the appearance settings. If I try to start docky it says I need to enable COmpositing and then restart docky, anybody any ideas what happened to my graphics ? this was all working yesterday
[09:46] <devians> because for some reason ubuntu is looking for internet on eth0 when it exists on eth1
[09:47] <stcatto> can someone help me with txt input from COM port
[09:47] <darshan> useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later
[09:47] <darshan> whats  is the solution for this error "useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later"
[09:47] <jasef> devians, you could try disconnecting the ethernet plug from eth0 to install the package
[09:47] <iceroot> Semtex: login without a password does NOT mean empty password
[09:48] <llutz_> darshan: needs sudo
[09:48] <Loopus> I am using an ATI RV370 5B64 [FireGL V3100 (PCIE)] if thats of any use to anyone
[09:48] <iceroot> Semtex: it means autologin because your password is stored locally
[09:48] <iceroot> Semtex: so its not a bug its a feature
[09:48] <Semtex> iceroot: so why can I no longer use sudo?
[09:48] <iceroot> Semtex: what was the error-message of sudo?
[09:48] <llutz_> iceroot: if it breaks sudo-usage, its a bug, not a feature
[09:49] <Semtex> iceroot: incorrect password
[09:49] <darshan> <llutz_
[09:49] <darshan> why
[09:49] <iceroot> llutz_: first i want to see if that is the reason why his sudo is not working anymore
[09:49] <devians> jasef, llutz_ could this be a symptom of misconfiguration in the dhcp server on eth0?
[09:49] <stanman246> can i reset the audio balance?
[09:49] <iceroot> Semtex: you used "passwd" as i suggest you, did you put your old password there? or was it empty?
[09:50] <tottto-drummond> Does someone has manage to get his Lexmark printer work properly with 11.10
[09:50] <Semtex> iceroot: yeah I just used passwd to set my password again and eveything works fine
[09:50] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: there are many lexmark printers out there
[09:50] <llutz_> devians: sound as it sets default-route to eth0, check the settings
[09:50] <darshan> <llutz_ > i have use command "sudu useradd -m - s /bin/bash opensrf" but then it is not asking me for password to submit while making user
[09:50] <iceroot> Semtex: passwd is asking for the old password first
[09:50] <Semtex> iceroot: but it doesnt login without a password
[09:50] <Semtex> iceroot: I can do passwd fine
[09:51] <diego_> anyone knows glut library? glut.h?
[09:51] <llutz_> darshan:  sudo
[09:51] <devians> llutz_ where would i check those settings sorry?
dat only ,its an speling mistake ,sorry
[09:51] <iceroot> Semtex: passwd is asking for the current password and my question was, did you put there your current password or did you set it blank and then type 2 times your new password?
[09:51] <llutz_> devians: how did you configure your network? networkmanager, /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:51] <iceroot> !anyone | diego_
[09:51] <devians>  llutz_ /etc/network/interfaces
[09:52] <Semtex> iceroot: I put my current password in
[09:52] <bobba> Hi Guys :) I was hoping someone knew how to listen on an IPv6 address allocated by router advertisement? The address is assigned asynchronisly with bringing the interface up, so is there a hook or callback that can notify me when an address has been allocated?
ans me too frnd
[09:52] <iceroot> Semtex: so the option from the gui didnt set the password emtpy
[09:52] <iceroot> Semtex: what ubuntu-version?
[09:52] <llutz_> devians: specify "gateway"
[09:52] <Semtex> iceroot: latest 11.10
[09:52] <jvm_> with the ubuntu 10.04 system update yesterday 3D effects stopped working for me. anyone else having that problem?
[09:53] <iceroot> Semtex: the gui came from unity? or what are you uisng?
[09:53] <Semtex> iceroot: the gui must have
[09:53] <Semtex> iceroot: gnome-classic
[09:53] <llutz_> darshan: sudo won't ask for a password, if you already used it before (within 15 minutes or so)
[09:53] <Semtex> llutz_: I closed the terminal each time to check
[09:53] <Semtex> llutz_:  to get around that
[09:53] <darshan> ya but i need to login through it
[09:53] <llutz_> Semtex: wasn't for you
[09:54] <darshan> so when i loggin through it,why does it ask
[09:54] <Satanaa> Oh i found a fix for unity and thunderbird
[09:54] <iceroot> Semtex: so that i can reproduce the "bug" you set "dont ask for a password on login" after that, sudo was not working anymore
[09:54] <iceroot> Semtex: and said that the password for sudo was wrong
[09:54] <Satanaa> an thunderbird addon called "Unity Launcher Integration"
[09:54] <Semtex> iceroot: yes, it is all in my video http://www.exile8.webspace.virginmedia.com/test-0000.mpeg
ya but i need to login through it, so when i loggin through it,why does it ask
[09:55] <iceroot> Semtex: i cant watch videos here
[09:55] <Semtex> iceroot: that should make it easy to reproduce
[09:55] <Semtex> iceroot: ahh ok
[09:55] <tottto-drummond> iceroot I have a Lexmark X4690 the scanner works ok but I'm unable to print
[09:55] <llutz_> darshan: sry cannot follow you.
[09:56] <tottto-drummond> iceroot with 11.04 everything was working ok
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: working fine here
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: so i guess you misstyped your password
[09:56] <Semtex> hmm
[09:56] <Semtex> iceroot: typed my password wrong where?
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: and that option in the gui is not changing /etc/shadow and not /etc/passwd and sudo is only using that files
[09:56] <darshan>  <llutz_>i want to loggin through my new user ,but as sudo doesnt allow to set password ,how could i give password at login time
[09:56] <Semtex> iceroot: and I have done this a number of times to be sure
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: at sudo
[09:57] <Semtex> iceroot: no I am 100% typing my right password
[09:57] <iceroot> Semtex: hm
[09:57] <llutz_> darshan: after creating the user, "sudo password <newusername>" to set a password
[09:57] <Semtex> iceroot: in the vid I try to show that
[09:57] <iceroot> Semtex: i cant watch videos here :( so i guess someone else must have a look there
[09:58] <llutz_> darshan: next time use "sudo adduser username" to create new users
[09:58] <Semtex> iceroot: no worries, I have fixed it enough for what I need so thanks for your help
[09:58] <Semtex> iceroot: I have posted a topic at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1865468
[09:58] <iceroot> Semtex: ok
[10:02] <roy_> what the hell
[10:02] <roy_> where is everyone
[10:02] <iceroot> roy_: /n
[10:02] <phlak_user> roy_: waiting
[10:03] <tottto-drummond> iceroot have u got any idea on what I could do to fix my printer probleme
[10:03] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: only to have a look at lexmark if they are offering drivers
[10:03] <iceroot> !printer | tottto-drummond
[10:04] <cosmos123> hello
[10:04] <iceroot> hm there was a cups-site which is showing what printer is working imo
[10:04] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: ^
[10:04] <iceroot> or was that only for scanners (sane) i dont know
[10:05] <cosmos123> can you tell me how to install gdm2setup in natty?
[10:05] <reisio> if you're using an HP, you'll want to check the hplip site first
[10:05] <tottto-drummond> iceroot it s kinda of a regression to see my printer working with 11.04 but not with 11.10 right ?
[10:05] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: yes
[10:05] <cosmos123> can u help
[10:06] <vijvij> sudo apt-get build-dep firefox gives me http://pastebin.com/P3rUkXUS . Am using lucid thanks for your help
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> how can i modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apss'
[10:07] <cosmos123> gdm ppa is not working
[10:07] <iceroot> cosmos123: as it seems gdm2setup is some setup-tool for gnome2?
[10:07] <HRT> hello, ubuntu 11.10, can I make ATI Radeon HD 5470+Intel graphics embedded incore i3 work well on ubuntu 11.10? can I enable compiz on them??
[10:07] <mkultra>  i moved my /bin/sh simlink to bash
[10:07] <devians> how can i mount a cifs share under a user rather than root?
[10:08] <mkultra> devians symlink?
[10:08] <phlak_user> vijvij: satisfy those unmet dependencies by installing them
[10:08] <cosmos123> iceroot: can you help me in installing it?
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer
[10:08] <iceroot> cosmos123: there is no gnome2 in 11.10 anymore
[10:08] <vijvij> phlak_user : Do we have a command which automatically downloads all the dependencies?
[10:08] <iceroot> cosmos123: so i dont think that tool is helping you
[10:09] <cosmos123> cosmos123: I am using ubuntu natty 11.04
[10:09] <phlak_user> vijvij: not that i know
[10:09] <iceroot> vijvij: the problem is not that it is not automatilcy downloading dependiecies
[10:10] <cosmos123> iceroot: I tried using the ppa but it wont work.
[10:10] <iceroot> vijvij: the problem is that you have installed packages in different versions and so the dependecies doesnt fit anymore (as the error-message says)
[10:10] <iceroot> cosmos123: hm i dont think you get what i am trying to tell you
[10:10] <raven> self compiled ffmpeg with mpeg4 - "parser not found" for any codec - what could have been went wrong there?
[10:11] <cosmos123> iceroot: say what?
[10:11] <iceroot> vijvij: can you paste "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:11] <vijvij> iceroot : sure
[10:11] <iceroot> cosmos123: as it seems the tool is for gnome2-configuration but there is no gnome2 anymore
[10:12] <BoomerBile> i can ssh to my machine but rsync isn't working... any reasons i could be having this problem?
[10:12] <kamilnadeem> Any fix ?
[10:12] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: is rsync installed?
[10:12] <vijvij> iceroot : Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS \n \l   ---cat issue..
[10:12] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, yes
[10:13] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: also what is the command you use to invoke rsync
[10:13] <cosmos123> iceroot: I am actually using linux mint 11, which is actually having only gnome, so I think you can help me out....
[10:13] <BoomerBile> rsync -azv metaphaze@host-ommitted:/home/metaphaze/MyWork/ /home/user/MyWork/ --port=11120
[10:13] <vijvij> iceroot : http://pastebin.com/PdHwmAPf this is sources.list
[10:14] <phlak_user> vijvij: dude where are the other repos? i see only multiverse there
[10:15] <phlak_user> vijvij: nm you've put them all in one line
[10:15] <vijvij> phlak_user : this is all I have. Should I include other repos? can you help me make a proper sources.list file.
[10:15] <Morgz> is there an easy way i can disable network manager so i can try wicd (but so I can revert easily if I choose to?)
[10:16] <BoomerBile> Morgz, i'm using them both at the same time
[10:16] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, my rsync command is a few lines up
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> how can i modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apps'
[10:17] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: are you using rsync over ssh or rsyncd?
[10:18] <BoomerBile> rsync over ssh, i've even tried the --rsh=ssh option
[10:18] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: cos that command requires that you run rsyncd on the remote.
[10:18] <BoomerBile> which command? the one i showed you? your wrong...
[10:18] <BoomerBile> to require an rsyncd server on the remote i would have to double up my ::
[10:19] <newuser> da privet
[10:19] <orated> Hello! What is default path to the running kernel header?
[10:19] <pratz> hey guys on my other computer the ip address is automatically taken by dhcp, though i insert all the ip info manually , any idea ?
[10:19] <pratz> i am using 10.04
[10:19] <vijvij> phlak_user : http://pastebin.com/40YsKm9f does this look like a good sources.list?
[10:20] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: here is how i do it rsync -avPe ssh someuser@x.y.z.w:/home/somethingto/backup .
[10:20] <newuser> /usr/share/linux-headers-...
[10:20] <pratz> when i restart my computer the staticlly given ip address is automatically converted to DHCP manually
[10:20] <phlak_user> pratz: where do you insert them?
[10:20] <pratz> phlak_user: in network manager
[10:20] <pratz> phlak_user: i am using gnome desktop
[10:21] <pratz> phlak_user: when i restart my computer the network manager also shows "automatically DHCP"
[10:21] <phlak_user> pratz: ok; and you saved it with a name? just click on the nm icon and select the profile you saved
[10:22] <Hc96> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 11.04. Everytime I change my /etc/hosts and restart it, it is reverted. The file _is_ modified after editing it (checked with cat)
[10:22] <newuser> network manager -> edit-connection -> wired
[10:22] <orated> newuser: I don't see the headers in /usr/share/ ..
[10:22] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, that's the same thing i'm doing... the only difference is the -P which wouldn't matter...
[10:23] <newuser> you may install it via synaptic manager or sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[10:23] <orated> newuser: I've it installed. I just want to know the path where it is located
[10:23] <pratz> phlak_user: just give me a sec dude
[10:23] <HRT> hello, ubuntu 11.10, can I make ATI Radeon HD 5470+Intel graphics embedded incore i3 work well on ubuntu 11.10? can I enable compiz on them??
[10:23] <newuser> find / | grep headers
[10:24] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: where have you asked it to use ssh in that command?
[10:24] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: and if you did you wouldnt need to specify the port (only in 'ssh -p non-standard-port)
[10:25] <iceroot> orated: /usr/src/linux-headers-)
[10:25] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, i told you i tried the --rsh=ssh which is the same as -e ssh
[10:25] <iceroot> orated: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:25] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, and i have to specify a non-standard port because i don't have a daemon listening on a standard one
[10:25] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: so what errors are you getting?
[10:26] <darshan> i am not able to swith to root user,i am running command su - root,and i dont knew password for it
[10:26] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: my crystal ball is a little fuzzy right now
[10:26] <TehDGM> phlak_user use sudo
[10:26] <jasef> darshan, run sudo -i instead, it gives you a root terminal
[10:26] <iceroot> !sudo | darshan
[10:26] <Kartagis> Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6057]: (iegg) CMD (/usr/bin/znc)
[10:26] <Kartagis> Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6056]: (CRON) error (grandchild #6057 failed with exit status 1) <--- why am I getting this?
[10:26] <iceroot> jasef: we dont like root-shells here, so sudo command is the suggested way
[10:27] <orated> Thanks iceroot
[10:27] <BoomerBile> ssh: connect to host x.y.z.w port 22: connection timed out... which is funny cause i'm not trying to connect to port 22... and yes i've tried specifying the port like this as well user@x.y.z.w:port/directory/
[10:27] <jasef> iceroot, Lol, is it bad that I use sudo -i or sudo su then? :P
[10:27] <iceroot> BoomerBile: ssh -p port user@host
[10:27] <iceroot> jasef: sudo su is wrong
[10:27] <iceroot> jasef: technical
[10:27] <iceroot> jasef: sudo -i is bad
[10:27] <BoomerBile> iceroot, yeah that works fine..
[10:27] <zniavre> good afternoon
[10:27] <iDorito> Hey guys, it's me, Linus Torvalds. I uh... I just wanted to say that I'm sorry. I was wrong.
[10:28] <BoomerBile> iceroot, but i'm trying to rsync not ssh
[10:28] <iDorito> I was wrong about Linux. Please clear the channel. Thanks.
[10:28] <jasef> Nice fail there, Mr. Troll
[10:28] <zniavre> im using gnome(3.2) + xfce4-panel with indicator-plugin it seems they are reversed http://i.imgur.com/szLEx.png  how to put them in a good arder please ?
[10:28] <zniavre> order*
[10:28] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: which is why you need to specify the port in rsync -e 'ssh -p 1234' and not outside
[10:28] <iDorito> No it's Torvalds, not Troll, though the names sound similar.
[10:29] <BoomerBile> heh, i have been doing this for years, i don't understand why i have to specify anything extra now... but ok
[10:29] <jasef> iceroot, I use sudo su for longer commands like "sudo su -c 'apt get update && apt-get upgrade'" so they function correctly, and cause I don't want to type sudo twice
[10:29] <pratz> phlak_user: hey dude i kind of lost the network icon , any ideas ?
[10:29] <phlak_user> pratz: nope
[10:29] <orated> iceroot: No, its not there either
[10:29] <phlak_user> pratz: what did you do to loose it?
[10:30] <raven> since 11.10 vlc plays videos async ~-600 ms audio - what is the problem here?
[10:30] <BoomerBile> they change rsync? the man page is not the same...
[10:30] <phlak_user> jasef:  couldnt you encapsulate them in backticks sudo `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade`
[10:31] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: you didnt read the Manual first? r
[10:31] <jasef> phlak_user, Yeah, I suppose I could. I guess I'm just too used to using debian as a server :P (and I know I can install sudo there too.)
[10:31] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, back in 1995 i read the manual... haven't needed to since then
[10:32] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: ah good for you;
[10:32] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: so does it work now like it should?
[10:33] <Zylum> what's the terminal command to open the gnome main menu editor?
[10:33] <BoomerBile> yeah it's working... just like it should... i'm checking to see if this is an ubuntu thing or just something some retard did to make rsync easier for other retards
[10:33] <Yyharssargyhaell> Zylum: gconf-editor
[10:33] <Zylum> ok where in that are the main menu settings?
[10:34] <lyrae> Hi. I haven't done this in a while. but which file do i edit to automount a drive on boot? fstab?
[10:34] <Yyharssargyhaell> Zylum: uh... My bad - I think it's alacarte
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> how can i modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apss'
[10:34] <Zylum> that's it, thanks :)
[10:34] <orated> iceroot: $ uname -a gives - Linux   3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux and $ /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) gives - bash: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic: No such file or directory
[10:34] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: you're welcome
[10:34] <godfatherofeir1> Quick question, what section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here).
[10:35] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, must be because i'm going through a couple firewalls and this free attnet free wifi must be complicating things... and thanks
[10:35] <phlak_user> lyrae: /etc/fstab
[10:37] <Kartagis> Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6057]: (iegg) CMD (/usr/bin/znc) / Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6056]: (CRON) error (grandchild #6057 failed with exit status 1) <--- what can I do about this?
[10:37] <zoLevDotCom> Hello, guys!
[10:37] <Hc96> Hi! my changes in /etc/hosts are lost after reboot, but work before reboot. Whtats wrong there?
[10:37] <Kartagis> !hostname | Hc96,
[10:38] <Kartagis> !hostname | Hc96
[10:38] <phlak_user> !repeat | Kartagis
[10:38] <darshan> when i want to switch as root user it is asking me password,
[10:38] <Kartagis> sorry
[10:38] <osse> How can I add users to groups in Ubuntu 11.10 through the GUI?
[10:39] <Hc96> Kartagis: I think it has nothing to do with hostname, since I dont want to change my hostname
[10:39] <phlak_user> darshan: youre not following the right way to do it. just type sudo -i ; when it asks you for password, enter you normal user password
[10:39] <darshan> my default root user is something like dev11 and password dream something,so wat password should i give to switch to root user
[10:39] <Kartagis> Hc96: if you do it in /etc/hostname, it won't be lost in reboot I believe
[10:40] <phlak_user> osse: in dash home type users in the search bar; click on User Accounts that show up in the results
[10:40] <BoomerBile> Kartagis, you can check your logs for more reasons it failed
[10:40] <phlak_user> darshan: dream something
[10:40] <lyrae> PHLAK, thanks
[10:40] <Kartagis> BoomerBile: no further logs
[10:40] <lyrae> phlak_user, thanks
[10:41] <phlak_user> lyrae: yw
[10:41] <Hc96> Kartagis: I think in Hostname I can only change my hostname? But I want to set an alias for a specific IP I often need to connect to. So I have to change /etc/hosts
[10:41] <osse> phlak_user, I've been there and I can change some basic settings for my user, but not groups :(
[10:41] <godfatherofeir1> Quick question, what section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here).
[10:41] <Kartagis> oh
[10:41] <OerHeks> osse there is a wiki for users/groups > https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[10:42] <BoomerBile> Hc96, what are you trying to do?
[10:42] <trussrod> go #bookz
[10:43] <sinosoidal> hi
[10:43] <BoomerBile> hc96 open /etc/hosts... add a line like this... w.x.y.z<tab>fully-qualified-domain-name<tab>nickname
[10:43] <sinosoidal> is there any version of ubuntu with xinput 2.1 with multitouch support being shipped already?
[10:43] <trussrod> #join bookz
[10:43] <trussrod> join #bookz
[10:43] <TehDGM> try /join
[10:43] <BoomerBile> Hc96, so for example 192.168.0.1     myhost.homelinux.org     myhost
[10:43] <Hc96> BoomerBile: I change the line "login1.zih.tu-dresden.de    lintud" to "141.30.68.89    login1.zih.tu-dresden.de    lintud" via sudo vi /etc/hosts. After the edit, using cat /etc/hosts shows me, that my change is in /etc/hosts . But when I then reboot my pc /etc/hosts contains the old line and not the new one. So /etc/hosts is reverted somehow
[10:43] <trussrod> ty
[10:43] <TehDGM> yw
[10:43] <trussrod> coffee hasn't kicked in yet :)
[10:43] <sinosoidal> ehhe
[10:45] <BoomerBile> Hc96, edit the file... save it... cat it to make sure... sudo sync... sudo reboot and see if it's there then
[10:45] <godfatherofeir1> What section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here). (and as a side note, is there any way to turn off join/part notifications in Empathy?)
[10:46] <raven> since 11.10 vlc plays videos async ~-600 ms audio - what is the problem here?
[10:46] <Hc96> BoomerBile: ok, i'll try that
[10:46] <Gentoo64> raven: you can adjust the audio sync but you shouldnt need to
[10:46] <Gentoo64> raven: try another player see if it helps. i find vlc really buggy
[10:46] <sriramoman> hi vivekvetri, welcome to #ubuntu
[10:47] <BoomerBile> me too... raven try smplayer
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> is it possible to modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apps'
[10:47] <osse> OerHeks, thanks. I wanted a GUI way of doing it, but that page showed me how to do it on the command line so it's ok. Maybe it isn't possible to manage groups in Gnome 3 :/
[10:48] <BoomerBile> MonkeyDust, what do you mean modify... you need to be a lot more specific...
[10:48] <Hc96> BoomerBile, the change is not there anymore.
[10:49] <Narc> Hello everyone. In Oneiric, am I the only one to have the indicator envelope icon not turning blue when I have unread messages in empathy ? Unread mails turn it blue though. I read in a bug report that this was a known regression... Is it true, any workaround ? Thanks.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> BoomerBile: if I click the dash icon, top left, i'd like to see 'More Apps', now it shows the large icons
[10:49] <BoomerBile> MonkeyDust, yes it's possible to modify Dash, you could sprinkle a bit of Gentoo64 on it ;)
[10:49] <Anteru> Hi, I have some curious problem. When I try to boot the AMD64 server installation from USB, I get into the selection screen from Ubuntu but installing fails with a "beep", I can just select options up/down and enter the rescue mode.
[10:49] <Anteru> In the rescue mode, I get some failures about mounting /dev/sde1 on /target failed: Device or resource busy; what's going on here?
[10:50] <raven>  how to update partition table? df / fdisk -l size differs
[10:50] <godfatherofeir1> What section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here). (and as a side note, is there any way to turn off join/part notifications in Empathy?)
[10:50] <BoomerBile> Hc96, same problem?
[10:50] <Hc96> BoomerBile, yes
[10:50] <kayaman> hi all
[10:50] <Hc96> BoomerBile, the changes I had done where there before reboot, but not after
[10:50] <BoomerBile> Hc96, that's a strange problem... is your drive mounted read only?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> BoomerBile: is that like saying 'ask Gentoo64 '?
[10:51] <kijekk> hi
[10:51] <raven>  how to update partition table? df / fdisk -l size differs
[10:51] <Hc96> BoomerBile, mount output: /dev/sda5 on / type etx4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[10:51] <BoomerBile> heh, no, that's just me being smart... cause i didn't understand your question... and if i can't, others probably can't and you won't get an answer
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> BoomerBile: what's that? 'if you can't, others can't'?
[10:53] <Anteru> oh an that device that is busy is the installation USB Stick ...
[10:53] <Hc96> There have been some mount errors on boot sometimes, I checked the disks but maybe its still wrong?
[10:53] <raven>  how to update partition table? df / fdisk -l size differs
[10:53] <latenighthorscht> MonkeyDust: this means BoomerBile is either more clever than others or suffers from too much self esteam
[10:53] <Hulk> how can I turn off the overwrite function in my text editor? :\
[10:53] <BoomerBile> MonkeyDust, are you getting any response ? no... probably because no one understands what you were asking
[10:54] <afeijo> I need help to recover a corrupted partition by gparted
[10:54] <BoomerBile> Hc96, what's with commit=0?
[10:54] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I don't know, what that is
[10:54] <Layke> Can I create a script which does several things?.. I dont know much about shell scripts, but I want to run a build, then after it's complete, I want to git add ., then git commit, then git push and enter my password. I want to do this from a single command.
[10:54] <Layke> Is that possible?
[10:54] <BoomerBile> Hc96, let me look up those options
[10:55] <godfatherofeir1> What section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here). (and as a side note, is there any way to turn off join/part notifications in Empathy?)
[10:56] <BoomerBile> MonkeyDust, is dash a gnome thing?
[10:56] <BoomerBile> MonkeyDust, or you talking about the shell?
[10:56] <Hc96> BoomerBile, heres the output of dmesg | grep sda5: pastebin.com/BhpbupWm
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> BoomerBile: its the unity menu
[10:57] <BoomerBile> ah, gnome
[10:57] <Stanley00> Layke: maybe, as long as you know the command to do that...
[10:57] <almoxarife> godfatherofeir1: pidgin can turn off join/part, empathy can not
[10:57] <Layke> Yeah I always just wait for the previous to finish. I enter the commands all manually
[10:58] <Layke> Takes like 2 minutes of sitting in front of terminal waiting for each to finish baby sitting until it finishes the last
[10:58] <khader> hi is there any reason for why wireless not going to work with pae kernels ?
[10:58] <Gentoo64> Layke: use &&
[10:58] <Gentoo64> duh
[10:59] <latenighthorscht> Layke: have u tried using && to concatenate the comands?
[10:59] <Layke> How about when I do git push origin master
[10:59] <Layke> and it asks me for the password?
[10:59] <Gentoo64> i think youll have tp type it in
[11:00] <mweijts> !help
[11:00] <Layke> Okay. I'll just reissue the git key to not have a password.
[11:00] <mweijts> !testdisk
[11:00]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps transx
[11:01] <Layke> sudo //var/www/project/build profile=manager && git add . && git commit . -m "Last Commit" && git push origin master
[11:01] <Layke> Should do it?
[11:01] <Layke> / should be ./ but yeah.
[11:01] <mweijts> afeijo:  try testdisk from repo see also http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[11:01] <Gentoo64> Layke: yea just add && after each command and itll run them, but stop on errors. use ; instead of && to not stop on errors
[11:02] <godfatherofeir1> almoxarife: thanks. I thought empathy would've ported that feature from pidgin,  but I guess not.
[11:02] <mongy> Hi.  Is it possible to disable the aptd process or do I need this running for some reason? I dont have update manager running on boot checking for updates either.
[11:02] <Guest51372> guys i know nothing about ubuntu how an earth do i get my "inspiron 1520" wireless to work i found a driver but the instuctions dont make sence to me :(
[11:03] <vega-> how can i tell if i'm in unity 2d or 3d? (without logging out9
[11:03] <godfatherofeir1> Alright, one last time before I have to go pass out. What section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here).
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> godfatherofeir1: in irssi you can /ignore +joins +quits
[11:03] <m4yer> hey, got a problem with wine on 64bit, cause it says it cant find opengl ...
[11:03] <mongy> vega-: pgrep -l compiz
[11:03] <Stanley00> vega-: try drag a icon out of the launcher, if you can do that, it's unity 3d
[11:04] <vega-> Stanley00: possible, so 3d seems
[11:04] <dynamics> does anyone know how to make the dock thing stay in place? I don't want it to move cause when it comes back out it blocks everything.
[11:04] <Gentoo64> dynamics: it should auto hide and show
[11:04] <Stanley00> vega-: yep
[11:04] <vega-> mongy: i thought compiz is used in unity 2d also?
[11:04] <BoomerBile> Hc96, ok, commit=0 is just an option for the journal, how often it commits things to disk...
[11:04] <private_meta> Hi... I've got a problem: I've got a system here where there is an ide installed (anjuta), and it made a directory where even the root user cannot change anything. no chmod, no chown, nothing. any idea what migth be the issue?
[11:05] <BoomerBile> Hc96, have you tried fsck on the drive?
[11:05] <dynamics> well how do I make it not auto hide?
[11:05] <afeijo> mweijts, thanks, I ran it and it asked me to reboot. I'll do it shortly
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> dynamics: in CCSM: desktop, unity plugin, hide launcher > never
[11:05] <Hc96> BoomerBile, no, I've not
[11:05] <godfatherofeir1> MonkeyDust: I know irrsi can, but I'm using Empathy. I prefer to keep my accounts in one place, rather than split them between different programs if possible.
[11:06] <mongy> vega-: no, compiz is for 3d compositing, unity2d doesnt do that
[11:06] <Hc96> BoomerBile, how should I do that? It's my system drive, and fsck tells me I should unmount it
[11:06] <Gentoo64> godfatherofeir1: i googled it and apparently you cant. youll have to use some other client or deal with it
[11:06] <vega-> mongy: in fact, unity 2d uses compiz, see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/uds-o-news-unity-2d-will-switch-from.html
[11:06] <BoomerBile> Hc96, you know how to check a drive for errors? i'd do that and if that doesn't fix it come back, your not the only one i've found with this problem
[11:06] <Hc96> BoomerBile, but I dont know whether I can unmount /
[11:06] <vega-> mongy: "(Compiz can run on different backends, including non accelerated ones"
[11:06] <godfatherofeir1> Gentoo64, I was just made aware of this a few moments ago by someone else in the channel.
[11:06] <BoomerBile> Hc96, you could try mount -o remount,ro /dev/sdXx /
[11:06] <Gentoo64> godfatherofeir1: ok
[11:07] <mongy> vega-: w00t?  I thought the point of unity2d was for cards without 3d capability. hmmm
[11:07] <BoomerBile> Hc96, hopefully nothing complains about that... then you can fsck it
[11:07] <godfatherofeir1> Gentoo64, thanks, though.
[11:07] <Gentoo64> godfatherofeir1: you could use xchat alongside it
[11:07] <dynamics> monkeydust : ccsm?
[11:07] <vega-> mongy: don't know, but clearly seems to be involved somehow indeed..
[11:07] <rango> ？
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> dynamics: compiz config settings manager
[11:07] <BoomerBile> Hc96, when your done, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdxX /
[11:07] <m4yer> nobody else having problems with wine on 64bit?
[11:08] <godfatherofeir1> Gentoo64, as I also said earlier, I prefer to keep my accounts in one place. Makes managing them all a tad easier.
[11:08] <Hc96> ok thank you, I'll try it
[11:08] <tard> hi. I need help getting a matrox g450 quad video card to work in ubuntu. the mga drivers are not working for me. 1 monitor works, the other 3 will not show up.
[11:08] <Hc96> mount: / is in use
[11:09] <dynamics> thank you monkeydust. Life saver
[11:09] <dynamics> the thing was driving me nuts.
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> i'm sure BoomerBile didn't know that ;)
[11:12] <BoomerBile> didn't know what
[11:12] <BoomerBile> Hc96, not sure why it's not letting me remount it... sure used to... let me try on my gentoo box
[11:13] <tard> ne one help me with matrox quad card drivers on
[11:13] <tard> 11.04
[11:13] <Hc96> BoomerBile, there is an option to shutdown: -F (force fsck on reboot)
[11:14] <tard> or with fakeAP setup
[11:14] <Gentoo64> Hc96: is that all your trying to do?
[11:14] <Hc96> Gentoo64, I want to apply fsck to /
[11:15] <Gentoo64> Hc96: just do it on reboot
[11:15] <BoomerBile> Hc96, you can use tune2fs to make it check
[11:15] <BoomerBile> Hc96, apparently you can't go ro on / but you can go from ro to rw
[11:15] <Hc96> BoomerBile, and so what would I have to type?
[11:15] <BoomerBile> Hc96, which is strange because i've done it before...
[11:16] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Hey, I've installed ubuntu on the school laptop. and the IT guys said they won't give me the wifi certificate. although if I was to find it, they would let me.. So.. Does anyone here happen to know where the wifi certificates happen to live on windows 7? ( I haven't used ubuntu for a while, Arch and FBSD have been great for me, but the "IT guys" said I can't re-partition the drive. so easily Wubi.
[11:16] <Gentoo64> why would you want ro on / on a running system?
[11:16] <jrib> JaMeSiTeGEN: what a ridiculous policy.
[11:16] <JaMeSiTeGEN> jrib: Aggreed. But this is my Stupid school here.
[11:17] <jrib> JaMeSiTeGEN: maybe try ##windows too.  It's ok to ask here but I have no clue where they live on windows 7
[11:17] <TehDGM> same thing here, they dont give any linux support and generally hate it. Luckily ours just uses wpa2
[11:17] <Gentoo64> JaMeSiTeGEN: tried the win channel?
[11:17] <Hc96> I'm now in GRUB, what's the command to do a fsck?
[11:17] <BoomerBile> -C mount-count -> Set the number of times the filesystem has been mounted.  If set to a greater value than the max-mount-counts parameter set  by the -c option, e2fsck(8) will check the filesystem at the next reboot.
[11:18] <BoomerBile> Hc96,
[11:18] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Can dual boot if installed from within windows, but no re-partitioning. I was going to use the SD slot but it hangs out too far so wubi instead of FBSD & Arch on sd.
[11:18] <JaMeSiTeGEN> humm, #windows
[11:18] <TehDGM> JaMeSiTeGEN cant you just resize existing partitions to make some space?
[11:19] <TehDGM> you can even do that from within windows
[11:19] <jrib> JaMeSiTeGEN: you might also try to see if there is some sort of linux club at your school
[11:19] <orated_> I'm probably seriously missing a package. Is this correct - http://pastebin.com/pJL71vU7 ?
[11:20] <BoomerBile> Hc96, so, just tune2fs -c 20 /dev/sdxX && tune2fs -C 21 /dev/sdxX
[11:20] <fritsch> orated_: for the headers perfectly fine :-)
[11:20] <Gentoo64> or touch /forcefsck then reboot?
[11:20] <Hc96> BoomerBile, It did check the hd now
[11:20] <fritsch> orated_: do you want to install the kernel as well?
[11:20] <Hc96> Now I'll try to change /etc/hosts again
[11:20] <orated_> fritsch: But if its not installed then on which kernel my system is running then?
[11:20] <fritsch> orated_: btw. there is a package more generic: linux-headers-generic
[11:21] <fritsch> orated_: linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[11:21] <fritsch> orated_: what happens if you install these?
[11:21] <Fudge> hi in lucid ive been told that the network manager icon when connected  it shows a chord laying in front of a plate, when its connected, this i guess is the a cable is unplugged icon. it does not seem to show the correct cable plugged in for saying its connected.
[11:21] <Fudge> is this a known bug or is there some fix for it
[11:22] <Hc96> damn i
[11:22] <Hc96> damn it
[11:22] <Hc96> /etc/hosts is still reverted
[11:22] <BoomerBile> Hc96, try nano
[11:22] <BoomerBile> vi sucks
[11:23] <TehDGM> vim <3
[11:23] <BoomerBile> sucks
[11:23] <BoomerBile> lol
[11:23] <TehDGM> not at all
[11:23] <TehDGM> you just dont know how to work it, thats different
[11:23] <Fudge> loL
[11:23] <BoomerBile> yeah i want to press 4 keys just so i can insert a d in front of something
[11:23] <TehDGM> just press i
[11:23] <BoomerBile> lets make more work out of it than it is
[11:23] <TehDGM> and go
[11:23] <TehDGM> then press shift ZZ
[11:23] <BoomerBile> i think you missed the point
[11:23] <overdub> vi has a steep learning curve, but loads of power once you know it
[11:23] <BoomerBile> i know vi
[11:23] <BoomerBile> that's the reason i hate it
[11:23] <JaMeSiTeGEN> TehDGM: They said no re-partitioning. :( jrib There is one very little linux/bsd group, but way too little.. ( asmartgoat uses fedora. I use Arch & FBSD, a few use ubuntu, and what ever they can get to work.. eg FBSD.
[11:24] <TehDGM> james_
[11:24] <TehDGM> JaMeSiTeGEN: who did? Do they own the laptop?
[11:24] <jrib> JaMeSiTeGEN: no insights from them on the wifi?
[11:24] <BoomerBile> vi and vim violate one simple rule.... KISS
[11:24] <TehDGM> nano is seriously lacking for anything more then editing simple config files
[11:24] <JaMeSiTeGEN> TehDGM: Yea, they own the laptops, Government school and doesn't let us bring our own laptops.
[11:24] <jrib> BoomerBile: use what works for you
[11:25] <darshan> is der ne way to have scroll bar in ubutu lucid lynx
[11:25] <TehDGM> JaMeSiTeGEN: just do it anyway, and then when they want it back restore it
[11:25] <TehDGM> :P
[11:25] <Hc96> I'm going crazy here
[11:25] <BoomerBile> TehDGM, yeah, and that's what he's doing... and vi doesn't seem to be cutting it
[11:25] <Hc96> nano or vi doesn't matter here, my / seems not to save any change!
[11:25] <orated> fritsch: I see that I've linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic  installed. I need to link an application to the linux image and /usr/src/ is empty
[11:26] <TehDGM> Hc96 sudo?
[11:26] <JaMeSiTeGEN> TehDGM: Yea, they own the laptops, Government school and doesn't let us bring our own laptops.
[11:26] <JaMeSiTeGEN> jrib: They have 20M/s ( slow, but they say fast ) wired. and slower wifi. ( Often dies due to the fail configuration )
[11:26] <fritsch> orated: install the headers matching your kernel is enough then
[11:26] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Sorry, pressed up arrow..
[11:26] <TehDGM> JaMeSiTeGEN: just do it anyway and restore it when they get it back
[11:26] <BoomerBile> Hc96, that's ok, i'm just troubleshooting your problem with you... now we know it's not a sync issue.. it's not a sudo issue because you can cat your file when your done and the changes are there
[11:26] <TehDGM> they probably format them all anyway when they go to the next person
[11:26] <fritsch> orated: the symlinks will be made after you did it
[11:26] <BoomerBile> Hc96, it's not an editor problem cause you've tried vi and nano
[11:26] <orated> fritsch: Moreover, I noticed that recovery mode doesn't work
[11:27] <JaMeSiTeGEN> TehDGM: By far too tempting, but I'd still need the wifi certificate to get on the network.
[11:27] <BoomerBile> Hc96, try making a copy of the file after you edit it
[11:27] <BoomerBile> Hc96, put this file in your home directory...
[11:27] <orated> fritsch: But will it cause system not to work 'coz of that?
[11:27] <BoomerBile> Hc96, make sure they both say what you want, then reboot
[11:27] <fritsch> orated: no, why should it?
[11:27] <Hc96> BoomerBile, thank you, I'll try that
[11:27] <fritsch> orated: install build-essential perhaps it gets everything right for you
[11:27] <orated> fritsch: I've it installed
[11:27] <fritsch> orated: so long as you do not remove your kernel :-) you are fine
[11:28] <fritsch> orated: do you have the meta packages installed: linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic?
[11:28] <orated> fritsch: Which one is kernel? header or image?
[11:28] <fritsch> orated: normally these one care for you
[11:28] <fritsch> orated: image
[11:28] <fritsch> orated: but you said, you have that already
[11:29] <tard> anyone? MGA matrox drivers ? or FakeAP setup ??
[11:29] <JaMeSiTeGEN> TehDGM: Yea, they do reformat them.. Although if i could just get the wifi certificate ( and login if there is one ) then i'd be able to be doing my work without having to wait about 3-5 minutes to boot and login..
[11:29] <Hc96> I'm now rebooting. my /home is on another drive, if that helps
[11:29] <BoomerBile> Hc96, ok
[11:30] <mongy> Anyone know why emerald has been removed from the repos, and how I can have nice window decoration with compiz in xfce?
[11:30] <Hc96> ok... my homedrive still contains the chang, /etc/hosts is the old version
[11:30] <BoomerBile> hmm
[11:30] <JaMeSiTeGEN> TehDGM: You still there?
[11:30] <BoomerBile> Hc96, it almost sounds like your editing a ram disk copy of /etc/hosts
[11:31] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: i just saw your original post. I do remember there being a utility that lets you import/export your certificates from Windows. could you do that?
[11:31] <orated> fritsch: http://pastebin.com/7PfG26FR
[11:31] <BoomerBile> Hc96, mount | wgetpaste
[11:31] <JaMeSiTeGEN> by from windows you mean, runs on ubuntu, reads through /host/.. files and gets certificates?
[11:31] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: ^^
[11:32] <Hc96> BoomerBile, whats wgetpaste?
[11:32] <Hc96> dont have it apt
[11:32] <fritsch> orated: perfectly fine, use the latest command
[11:32] <BoomerBile> it's a tool for pasting from the command line to pastebin
[11:32] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: no; some native app that lets you do it on windows; you can take the exported cert and install it in Ubuntu
[11:32] <orated> fritsch: But it says Need to get 0 B/12.0 MB of archives.. should I continue?
[11:32] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: pastebinit also does it
[11:32] <fritsch> orated: jep
[11:32] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Humm.. Any idea on where it is to be found to run on windows 7?
[11:32] <grzegorz> hello
[11:32] <fritsch> orated: they are already there but not installed
[11:32] <orated> ok
[11:33] <fritsch> orated: did you remove some stuff?
[11:33] <Hc96> so you want my mount output, hm?
[11:33] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: ^
[11:33] <orated> fritsch: I did autoremove once
[11:33] <fritsch> orated: okay
[11:33] <tard> anyone? MGA matrox drivers ? or FakeAP setup ?? on 11.04
[11:33] <Ibis> Hey guys, any recommended hardware brand I should go for , when building a computer specifically for Ubuntu. I want to avoid buying from companies like nvidia.
[11:33] <fritsch> orated: go go go :-)
[11:33] <grzegorz> sory for noob q, how to list channels?
[11:33] <mang0> I ran a command in terminal and need to creat an log of all the stuff it did. Is tehre a way to do this, or do I have to c&p it all to pastebin?
[11:33] <Ibis> grzegorz: /list
[11:33] <Hc96> pastebin.com/dmQsgij4
[11:33] <orated> fritsch: Ah, now ls /usr/src/ shows something
[11:33] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: nope but this article should point you in the right direction (though it seems to be for IIS) -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324167
[11:34] <grzegorz> thx :)
[11:34] <JaMeSiTeGEN> ty
[11:34] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, i'm sure it, and at least 5 other apps probably do it
[11:34] <Ibis> grzegorz: In near future, if you want to learn how to use IRC chat in general, please visit #Freenode
[11:34] <orated> fritsch: Thanks.. could you link me to some documentation which gives basic understanding of images/headers etc?
[11:34] <tard> wait, i fixed it. i installed windows :)
[11:34] <fritsch> orated: there is not much to explain
[11:35] <grzegorz> .list
[11:35] <grzegorz> ups, sorry :)
[11:35] <fritsch> orated: image is the kernel image itself, it is installed and booted from
[11:35] <fritsch> orated: the headers have information about functions and includes, so drivers can be built without installing all the source
[11:36] <orated> fritsch: And so kernel headers are what regularly updated?
[11:36] <fritsch> orated: both
[11:36] <Hc96> BoomerBile, its here: pastebin.com/dmQsgij4
[11:36]  * JaMeSiTeGEN is unhappy about booting windows outside of school. but sadly going to.. ( Going to take about 3-5 mins to be logged in..
[11:36] <VxQe> Does anyone know which libraries are required to open raw image files properly in the CR2 format?
[11:36] <fritsch> orated: you installed the meta packages now, so with every update it gets riht automagically
[11:37] <Ibis> mang0: /command/name/here   >   /home/mang0/Desktop/simpleLogFile.txt
[11:37] <orated> fritsch: If I didn't have the headers installed then how was the system functioning without necessary header files/include/functions?
[11:37] <BoomerBile> Hc96, thing is, i've had this problem before... i can't remember what I did to fix it, this was over 5 years ago... had this problem with a gentoo box of mine... frustrating
[11:37] <Ibis> mang0: Use the > sign. All tht would appear on your screen will go straight into the logfile. (Or any file pretty much, as this command APPENDS new text to it).
[11:38] <fritsch> orated: yes, you just need them to build additional modules
[11:38] <fritsch> orated: not need for normal work
[11:38] <fritsch> orated: if you buy windows, it runs without sourcecode :-)
[11:38] <fritsch> orated: that`s nearly the same
[11:38] <orated> fritsch: Ah-ok :)
[11:38] <JaMeSiTeGEN> "please wait..." -- TOO LONG :-(
[11:39] <orated> fritsch: Right, here it was required to buid a kernel module requested by VMWare and it is not able to build kernel module
[11:40] <JaMeSiTeGEN> BTW. The notebook the school is lending us is the "Lenovo thinkpad mini 10" -- not sure on exact moddle number, they removed it.
[11:40] <mang0> Ibis: Sorry, I don't follow :/
[11:40] <Hc96> BoomerBile, hm... I don't have any idea either :(
[11:40] <JaMeSiTeGEN> 2GB ram, 1.xGhz..
[11:40] <orated> fritsch: Anyway, thanks :)
[11:40] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I dont want to reinstall my system.
[11:41] <Hc96> BoomerBile, what works is creating a new file. That file is stored on the disk
[11:41] <Ibis> mang0: Type this in terminal: cat /proc/cpuinfo > /home/YOuRUSERNAME/your_NEW_LOG_FILE_NAME
[11:41] <Ibis> mang0: Then open that logfile.
[11:41] <tard> help anyone? MGA matrox g450 drivers ? or FakeAP setup ?? on 11.04
[11:42] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Network -- wifi details..
[11:42] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Network authorentication method: Microsoft Smart Card or other certificate
[11:43] <tard> wlan0 internet  wlan1 fakeap
[11:43] <mang0> Ibis: Great, thankyou
[11:43] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Security type: WPA2-Enterprise
[11:43] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Encryption type AES
[11:43] <Ibis> mang0: You're welcome.
[11:43] <naba> private_meta, have you got your answer?
[11:44] <Thomas111> hee kk homo's
[11:44] <Thomas111> KAULP GAY'S
[11:44] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Certificate is DEET. not sure how to get the exact file from here :/
[11:44] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Any ideas>?
[11:46] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: ^^
[11:46] <BoomerBile> Hc96, you get it to work?
[11:46] <christian__> hey
[11:46] <BoomerBile> buddy of mine says your not shutting down properly... i doubt that entirely but how are you shutting down or rebooting?
[11:46] <christian__> can someone help me, where do i find the header file openssl/ssl.h  ??
[11:47] <christian__> openssl is installed
[11:47] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: what is DEET? it should be DER if i remember correctly
[11:47] <christian__> but i cant find the file.. nor can i find a package openssl-dev or somethingl like that
[11:47] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Ahh, sorry thats the certificate name..
[11:47] <JaMeSiTeGEN> issued to and by deet
[11:47] <Ozik> hi
[11:47] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: ok so what format are you able to export it in?
[11:48] <christian__> someone knows where to get openssl/ssl.h ?? :(
[11:48] <JaMeSiTeGEN> RSA?
[11:48] <christian__> the header files of openssl in general
[11:48] <JaMeSiTeGEN> hehe copy to file maybe :.
[11:48] <Hc96> BoomerBile, still not
[11:48] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Der encoded binary x.509.. Sounds right..
[11:49] <iceroot> christian__: there is no ssl.h in ubuntu-packages
[11:49] <christian__> :O thats a mess
[11:49] <christian__> i need to install BRO
[11:49] <christian__> and it needs ssl.h :(
[11:49] <Ozik> does anybody experienced problems with silicon image hardware rair? like invalid drive raid 0, or mirrored set 0 merges into set 0 and set 1.... all after shutdown
[11:50] <cdavis> How can I check the version of the python-gdata library I am running? I have checked dpkg but want to know from the library itself
[11:50] <iceroot> Ozik: that is not a ubuntu-related question
[11:50] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: there is enough documentation to help you convert from one format to another using openssl
[11:50] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Humm.. export keys: no, include all certification path:no.. That matter?
[11:50] <iceroot> Ozik: that is hardware-related to your controler
[11:51] <BoomerBile> Hc96, describe to me how you are shutting down your system and rebooting it
[11:51] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: is it signed? if not, its ok
[11:51] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I'm typing sudo reboot
[11:51] <JaMeSiTeGEN> file format: DER Encoded binary X.509 (*.cer)
[11:51] <Hc96> BoomerBile, or sudo shutdown -h now
[11:52] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Signed.. you mean as in signature algorithm: sha1RSA, Signature hash algorithm sha1
[11:52] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: nope signed with a key
[11:52] <iceroot> Hc96: what is the issue?
[11:53] <iceroot> Hc96: your pc not rebooting?
[11:53] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: doesnt matter; just export it; convert to .pem and try using it in ubuntu
[11:53] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-converter.html
[11:53] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Doesn't appear to have any other keys. but I'm more a programmer so yea..
[11:53] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Thanks.. Booting into ubuntu now..
[11:53] <kamilnadeem> HI
[11:54] <JaMeSiTeGEN> restarting "windows" .. Or shutdown windows, and start up ubuntu :)
[11:54] <kamilnadeem> Why is Wunderlist not in Ubuntu software centre
[11:54] <Hc96> iceroot, no, it is rebooting. But changes in /etc/hosts are not saved on disks after reboot. I change it via sudo vi, and can see the change via cat, but after reboot /etc/hosts is in the state it had been before editing. sudo sync does not help
[11:54] <kamilnadeem> ?
[11:54] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: I hope this works..
[11:55] <iceroot> Hc96: are you booting a live-system instead of the real system?
[11:55] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: ahh, no copy paste. and I can't see the typo. can you please send the link through a tinyurl website?
[11:55] <kamilnadeem> Why is Wunderlist not in Ubuntu software center, any body knows about IT?
[11:55] <Hc96> iceroot, definitely not
[11:55] <iceroot> Hc96: other changes are saved after reoot?
[11:56] <iceroot> Hc96: e.g. does "sudo history" show your vi-call to edit the file?
[11:56] <Hc96> my / is an a separate partition. Creating files in / and /etc is saved after reboot, but a change in /etc/hosts is not saved. I've not tried to change other files
[11:57] <DerNascher> How can i change the keyboard-layout in the console? I cant find it in sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[11:57] <Ibis> Any ideas for recommended hardware brands I should buy to build a computer specifically for Ubuntu. I want to avoid buying from companies like nvidia(closed source drivers).
[11:57] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: http://bit.ly/44Pnav
[11:57] <JaMeSiTeGEN> ty
[11:57] <iceroot> !hardware | Ibis
[11:57] <phlak_user> Ibis: go though the hcl and build/buy the one you like
[11:57] <Hc96> iceroot, history has saved my edits, but I did it via sudo and thus it's saved in /home/ (which is on another partition)
[11:58] <BoomerBile> Hc96, here's an idea i guess, as i'm running out of them ... reboot to the live cd... mount the drive after fscking it... write your new /etc/hosts and save
[11:58] <BoomerBile> Hc96, unmount that drive... then reboot
[11:58] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Der -> pem?
[11:58] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I can try that
[11:58] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: yes
[11:58] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Okay.. Thanks..
[11:58] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Convertine with that website..
[11:59] <phlak_user> Hc96: out of curiosity, can you tell us what the output of this is -> ls -la /etc/hosts
[11:59] <JaMeSiTeGEN> err
[11:59] <iceroot> Hc96: are you using raid/lvm?
[11:59] <iceroot> Hc96: or a vm with snapshots? like kvm, xen, vmware?
[12:00] <Hc96> phlak_user, booting live disk now
[12:00] <phlak_user> Hc96: oh ok nvm
[12:00] <iceroot> Hc96: are you using ext4? or brtfs (with snapshots)?
[12:00] <Hc96> iceroot, I dont use raid/lvm or vm
[12:00] <Guest5582> hi everyone. I'm having a few wireless problems if anyone can help me? I've got a fresh install of 11.10 kubuntu with a rtl8192SE based edimax wifi card which won't work. I've downloaded the driver from Edimax for linux and on following the instructions it won't "make" let alone install. I downloaded ndiswrapper and the windows xp driver which installs ok but ndiswrapper says "Could not find a network configuration tool" could
[12:00] <Guest5582> anyone please help me fix this and get it working, i seem to have everything needed but nothing is working. Thanks for any help.
[12:00] <Hc96> It's a ext4 disk
[12:00] <Hc96> ssd
[12:00] <JaMeSiTeGEN> "There was a problem converting that certificate. It may be corrupt or it may be in a differnent format than the one you selected, You can try using a different format or running the OpenSSL commands on your own machine. The private key also may not match the certificate they you uploaded.
[12:00] <DerNascher> How can i change the keyboard-layout in the console? I cant find it in sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[12:00] <usc911> heya guys, just a quick question. Is there anyway to search in nautilus for files that were modified by date? (i.e. all files that were modified yesterday). Currently running 10.10 so using clasic gnome
[12:01] <private_meta> naba: yes, thanks, apparently it was an ntfs partition
[12:01] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Somewhat correcy.. typo prone as two computers here ..
[12:01] <naba> private_meta, okay
[12:01] <BoomerBile> Hc96, did you say ssd?
[12:01] <Hc96> yes
[12:02] <BoomerBile> grr
[12:02]  * JaMeSiTeGEN trys openssl command..
[12:02] <Hc96> ?
[12:02] <BoomerBile> i'm going to sound like an ass, but that's your problem... ssd technology sucks... but that's my opinion... i'd say you have a bad ssd disk and you should call your manufacturer and get a new one
[12:03] <rikutake> will the ubuntu installer notice and not use bad sectors?
[12:03] <JaMeSiTeGEN> no errors with the command. that mean it worked hopefully, now how to install as wifi certificate? ( should i do this tomorrow at school where i can acturally see the network?
[12:03] <Hc96> BoomerBile, oh dear, But writing it from windows works
[12:03] <BoomerBile> i don't know how these people talk all of you people into buying all this technology that is junk
[12:03] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: ^^
[12:03] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I need a fast drive
[12:03] <BoomerBile> Hc96, maybe the firmware needs an update?
[12:04] <Hc96> I've never done sth like this
[12:04] <DerNascher> How can i change the keyboard-layout in the console? I cant find it in sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[12:04] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: if the wi-fi security type is wpa-enterprise, the dialog that pops up will prompt you for the certificate and you can point it to the saved one
[12:04] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: in network manager
[12:05] <Hc96> I'm now checking my disks from the livedisk-boot-screen, afterwards ill see what happens
[12:05] <BoomerBile> Hc96, that's why i'm saying you should consider the possibility that the drive is bad... is speed more important than stability? SSD drives last about 3 years... a 15k rpm sata drive or SAS drive may sound expensive but it will last you 10 years too
[12:05] <phlak_user> Hc96: i would really be interested in seeing the output of ls -la /etc/hosts . It might throw up some hints
[12:05] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Okay.. Thanks.. could it ask for another login for the microsoft network they have? ( BTW, Yes WPA2-enterprise as I commented above )
[12:06] <Hc96> phlak_user, I'll show you in a minute. But /etc/hosts is no a link or sth, it's just a normal file
[12:06] <phlak_user> Hc96: sure
[12:07] <Gabriel403> Hi, rather daft question, I install 11.10 and then the alternative desktop, if there anyway I can see if I'm running gnome 2, gnome 3 or gnome-shell?
[12:07] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I've not heard about bad SSDs, and they are still faster than normal HDs
[12:07] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: the dialog box for WPA2-Enterprise has a field for Certificate file.
[12:07] <Gabriel403> Man that was bad english
[12:07] <auronandace> !gnome2 | Gabriel403
[12:07] <JaMeSiTeGEN> Which one? User certificate, CA certificate, Provate Key?
[12:07] <Gabriel403> !notunity
[12:07] <brandonc503> hey all. trying to  make vitual hosting but dont understand where it says " You can append the following line..." near the NameVirtualHost ip.address:port
[12:08] <brandonc503> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/09/setting-up-name-based-virtual-hosting/
[12:08] <phlak_user> Gabriel403: if you see  a bar on the left with icons - its unity; if you see a minimalist desktop with Activities on top - it is gnome3
[12:08] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: CA cert
[12:08] <brandonc503> where is the 'following line' its talking about
[12:08] <ssquirrel> help , ocleot won't boot after do-release-upgrade ... it will boot a previous kernel ... where are the logs? gdm is not running an xserver ...
[12:08] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: but it depends on the auth type is it TTLS or PEAP?
[12:08] <ssquirrel> just a black screen
[12:08] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Okay.. What about the Private key password. You think I'll need that too?
[12:08] <DarkEd__> Hello
[12:08] <ssquirrel> hdd is running something ..
[12:09] <DarkEd__> Any girls ??
[12:09] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: nope
[12:09] <BoomerBile> Hc96, SSD is like eprom... same line of technology... a buddy of mine has gone through 3 of those drives already... ssd tech is really new and unreliable...
[12:09] <Gabriel403> phlak_user: it looks like gnome2, but with the system and preferences menus moved into the applications one
[12:09] <JaMeSiTeGEN> I've got a feeling it's peap but I'll have to experiment..
[12:09] <DerNascher> How can i change the keyboard-layout in the console? I cant find it in sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[12:09] <BoomerBile> Hc96, why do you need a drive that fast?
[12:09] <rikutake> will the ubuntu installer notice and not use bad sectors?
[12:09] <DarkEd__> How can i switch off my cpu ??
[12:09] <DarkEd__> please
[12:09] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: if they gave you a username/password its PEAP else its TTLS
[12:10] <BoomerBile> switch off?
[12:10] <auronandace> DarkEd__: by turning off your computer
[12:10] <phlak_user> DarkEd__: does it come with a power button?
[12:10] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I'm a programmer und I need to read and write large amounts of data (libs, objects etc) which would not fit all in a ramdisk
[12:10] <DarkEd__> No
[12:10] <phlak_user> DarkEd__: what happens if you select shutdown ?
[12:10] <DarkEd__> nothing
[12:11] <phlak_user> DarkEd__: and the distro is..
[12:11] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: The network has all the student logins. and a student:student2011 login.. Not exactly secure.. so I'll try that for the login..
[12:11] <lyrae> Hi. What happened to Emerald for compiz?
[12:11] <BoomerBile> Hc96, i understand that well, programmer here myself... your reading more than 16 gigs in objects?
[12:11] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: so it could be PEAP
[12:11] <lyrae> no longer in repo. is the project gone ?
[12:11] <OerHeks> !emerald
[12:11] <DarkEd__> what is distro ?
[12:11] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: It prompts the teachers to type in their password, so I guess so.
[12:11] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: there you go :)
[12:12] <phlak_user> DarkEd__: distribution
[12:12] <Stanley00> DerNascher: you can use xmodmap, I have never used it, so if you want, you have to read the man page, or search the web...
[12:12] <JaMeSiTeGEN> phlak_user: Okay.. Lets just hope it works and if it does. I'll try to join freenode from school. Doubt they have unblocked it from last year.. :/
[12:12] <DarkEd__> idk
[12:13] <phlak_user> DarkEd__: do you have Ubuntu on your computer?
[12:13] <ssquirrel> help , ocleot won't boot after do-release-upgrade ... it will boot a previous kernel ... where are the logs? gdm is not running an xserver ...
[12:13] <DarkEd__> yeah
[12:13] <DarkEd__> i think
[12:13] <Hc96> BoomerBile, I've got 8Gigs RAM, sometimes I really need actually more, also for video-cutting, image processing etc. it's not that simple to say, I dont need speed. I actually do not want to miss it any more since I have it available
[12:13] <Emi> hello, where can I get technical support for Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:13] <ssquirrel> spam ++
[12:13] <JaMeSiTeGEN> If not, I'll just see if you are on here and if your not I'll just memoserv you the status of it.. Thanks again. and It's late here is australia. so I have to go now.. cya
[12:13] <Hc96> alright, fsck says /dev/sda5 is clean
[12:13] <DerNascher> Stanley00: Thanks i will ltry it
[12:13] <auronandace> emi: here
[12:13] <phlak_user> Emi: paid or free?
[12:13] <Emi> free
[12:14] <phlak_user> JaMeSiTeGEN: ok all the best
[12:14] <darshan>  <darshan> is der ne way to have scroll bar in ubutu lucid lynx
[12:14] <Emi> auronandace pvt or here?
[12:14] <phlak_user> Emi: you're in the right place
[12:14] <darshan>  is der ne way to have scroll bar in ubutu lucid lynx
[12:14]  * JaMeSiTeGEN goes to sleep for tomorrow of logging into school network xD Good night all!
[12:14] <darshan>  <darshan> is der ne way to have scroll bar in ubutu lucid lynx
[12:14] <BoomerBile> Hc96, well, your permissions are right, your rebooting correctly, you have saved successfully to another drive... you've fscked, you've tried other editors...
[12:14] <darshan>  is der ne way to have scroll bar in ubutu lucid lynx
[12:14] <Emi> thank you all
[12:14] <auronandace> Emi: better in the channel
[12:14] <phlak_user> !repeat| darshan
[12:14] <__gotcha> what is the name of the package for the headers file of openssl ?
[12:14] <vevais> Hello
[12:14] <BoomerBile> Hc96, either linux isn't using your drive properly, or it's bad
[12:14] <Emi> ok
[12:14]  * JaMeSiTeGEN memoserv's phlak_user 's nick to remember it.
[12:14] <__gotcha> openssl-dev ?
[12:14] <Emi> I have problems with Gnome 3 and my ati radeon card
[12:15]  * JaMeSiTeGEN is offline
[12:15] <phlak_user> !info libssl-dev | __gotcha
[12:15] <Emi> and I cannot install the post-release updates, I keep on getting an error message
[12:15] <__gotcha> phlak_user: thanks
[12:15] <Guest66683> zhinengshuoyingwena
[12:15] <Emi> are there any open source drivers I can install instad of the ATI proprietary drivers?
[12:16] <DarkEd__> wtf
[12:16] <DarkEd__> !!
[12:16] <Guest87853> how do I set up printing to a network printer? When I do system->admin->printers it says it is not connected
[12:16] <Hc96> BoomerBile, lol: from the live disk the /etc/hosts change is saved
[12:16] <Hc96> BoomerBile, no not saved. It is there, saved from the normal system
[12:17] <DarkEd__> help me please!!
[12:17] <leshaste> I think cups isn't running
[12:17] <auronandace> DarkEd__: you may need computer lessons if you seriously can't shut off your "cpu"
[12:18] <Emi> no open source driver for 3D support using an ATI radeon card?
[12:18] <andi5> hi... sudo apt-get install libncurses5:i386... this is supposed to install an i386 libncurses lib on an amd64 oneiric ubuntu installation, correct? still, it does not work and i cannot find the multi-arch spec for this package... thanks for any hint!
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> !helpme| DarkEd__
[12:18] <auronandace> Emi: not for 3d support, as far as i know
[12:18] <debsan> leshaste, sudo /etc/init.d/cups start
[12:19] <BoomerBile> sorry Hc96 i'm out of ideas, and on vacation at a resort, i shouldn't be here lol i should be relaxing in the hot tub
[12:19] <leshaste> debsan, thanks.. I went for sudo apt-get install --reinstall cups
[12:19] <Emi> auronandace: thank you
[12:19] <BoomerBile> anyway, been up all night, going to sleep
[12:19] <leshaste> debsan, following http://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/cups-not-running-on-boot-ubuntu-10-04/
[12:19] <Hc96> BoomerBile, thanks for your help anyway!
[12:19] <BoomerBile> Hc96, welcome
[12:20] <jvm_> hi. did the system update for ubuntu 10.04 yesterday cause trouble for anyone else? my "advanced desktop effects" stopped working.
[12:20] <Guest66683> xcxvcx
[12:20] <Hc96> phlak_user, heres the output of ls -al /etc/hosts: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 256 2011-10-20 14:17 /etc/hosts
[12:21] <debsan> ok
[12:21] <kriss_> Does anyone have a way to have screensaver in 11.10 run a logout instead of a screensave ?
[12:21] <DarkEd__> !repeat
[12:21] <phlak_user> kriss_: just click on lock screen
[12:21] <DarkEd__> Oh
[12:21] <DarkEd__> i found the off button
[12:22] <DarkEd__> Ty my friends
[12:22] <DarkEd__> :)
[12:22] <DarkEd__> :)
[12:22] <FloodBot1> DarkEd__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <kriss_> phlak_user well uhmm lock screen doesnt do a logoff. it locks the screen.. and i need it activated by inactivity.
[12:23] <phlak_user> kriss_: it doesnt do a logoff but it is activated by inactivity
[12:23] <Seventoes> my hosts.deny doesn't seem to be working
[12:23] <kriss_> phlak ? huh ?? that didnt make any sense
[12:23] <Seventoes> err.. i'm doing something wrong would be moer acccurate :P
[12:24] <Seventoes> I run a minecraft server, and I get mentions of this IP failing to connect all the time
[12:24] <phlak_user> kriss_: well, the lock screen app gets activated by inactivity; it waits for a password to unlock again
[12:24] <Seventoes> and it's not anything a player has ever logged in with, so I want to just block it from the system
[12:24] <Seventoes> so I put ALL: x.x.x.x in /etc/hosts.deny, but it's still showing the messages :(
[12:25] <TehDGM> minecraft is horribly coded though, so you're not completely to blame most likely
[12:25] <kriss_> phlak yes im aware of that. However i need the user to get booted of f (logout) not just screen lock. Otherwise people cant use that computer if its locked
[12:25] <Seventoes> yeah totaly agreed
[12:25] <Seventoes> but hosts.deny should stop that IP from even making connections to the system, right?
[12:25] <stack> hello, I've upgraded ubuntu notebook edition to 11.04, and now it ask me the password and only the background is shown. no gnome interface, is that something know? how do I fix it?
[12:25] <Seventoes> so it shouldn't even get to java, let alone the minecraft code
[12:25] <Guest5582> hi can anyone please help me with my wireless problem? I've got a fresh install of 11.10 kubuntu with a rtl8192SE based edimax wifi card which won't work. I've downloaded the driver from Edimax for linux and on following the instructions it won't "make" let alone install. I downloaded ndiswrapper and the windows xp driver which installs ok but ndiswrapper says "Could not find a network configuration tool" could anyone please help me
[12:25] <Guest5582>  fix this and get it working, i seem to have everything needed but nothing is working. Thanks for any help.
[12:25] <phlak_user> kriss_: oh ok; i understand now -  you need a "switch user" utility
[12:25] <TehDGM> ye it should stop it
[12:25] <TehDGM> not just drop it after it got to the server
[12:26] <kriss_> phlak. No. i simply need to have a force logout for the current user if the screensaver gets activated ( such as say 5 minutes of inactivity)
[12:26] <muelli> Guest5582: what is the issue with a "make"? Please pastebin the exact output somewhere.
[12:26] <TehDGM> perhaps people trying to connect with a downloaded client
[12:26] <TehDGM> have you tried it with a proper client with a friend?
[12:26] <Seventoes> nope,i get a different message for those players
[12:27] <Seventoes> tried what?
[12:27] <TehDGM> if it works
[12:27] <Seventoes> oh the hosts.deny to see if it blocks properly? it's 8am so noone's up haha
[12:28] <Guest5582> muelli: thanks for helping me out!! here's my pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/2091759
[12:28] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[12:28] <kamilnadeem> Just wanted to know that , In the Software sources other software , should there be a check on the source code also?
[12:28] <sagaci> what's the package name for the clock applet called
[12:28] <sidewalk> !ppa
[12:29] <ravedog> Hey guys, anyone know what exactly that is called when i press the shutdown button in my gnome-panel? i mean, is it like a gnome-shutdown (i know that it isnt just that but u know what i mean ;)) application or is it something else?
[12:29] <cjs> Why would floodbot say, "cjs: Please give your answer here in the channel" when I /m the answer to it?
[12:29] <kamilnadeem> Just wanted to know that , In the Software sources other software , should there be a check on the source code also?
[12:29] <Guest66683> hai
[12:29] <Guest66683> hai
[12:30] <Guest66683> dong
[12:30] <bazhang> !cn | Guest66683
[12:30] <sagaci> !info nuke
[12:30] <kamilnadeem> infor wunderlist
[12:30] <Guest66683> xiexie
[12:30] <kamilnadeem> info wunderlist
[12:30] <kamilnadeem> Just wanted to know that , In the Software sources other software , should there be a check on the source code also?
[12:31] <andi5> cjs: this here is the channel... if you /m you send a private message
[12:31] <antihc3> has anyone know how to fix  system_bus_socket being inaccessible after reboot.  Only started after the latest update to 11.10.  I have mv system_bus_socket and reboot but then i am now showing i need to reboot for updates to complete.
[12:31] <sagaci> !info wunderlist | kamilnadeem
[12:31] <ravedog> Noone that has an idea?
[12:31] <kamilnadeem> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/wunderlist-ubuntu-software-centre/
[12:31] <darshan> i am getting number of errors for some task ,and for that i am not able to read the errors of starting as there is no scrollbar present to scroll screen in ubuntu ,is der any way to get my issue solve
[12:31] <kamilnadeem> what is this done>?
[12:31] <muelli> Guest5582: well. first of all: don't use "sudo make". "make" should suffice. And it looks as if you are missing something like "make -C /lib/modules/*/build/". What did you download and where did you get the instructions from?
[12:32] <Kraln> yeah, sudo make is only for sandwiches.
[12:32] <kamilnadeem> Just wanted to know that , In the Software sources other software , should there be a check on the source code also?
[12:32] <Guest5582> muelli: i downloaded this driver from edimax website: http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/Driver_Utility/Wireless/NIC/EW-7612Pin/7612_Linux_Driver.zip
[12:32] <muelli> ravedog: it might call UPower via DBus. I don't exactly know though.
[12:32] <robin_> lo
[12:32] <muelli> ravedog: you can use d-feet to explore your System Bus (and find UPower and the interface to call).
[12:33] <robin_> I just trashed suse 11.4 cos it could not find my ethernet card
[12:33] <ravedog> muelli, thnx!
[12:33] <ravedog> ill have a look
[12:33] <bazhang> robin_, suse?
[12:33] <robin_> this one (UBUNTU 11.1) works really well and I did not have to recompile to get virtual box going
[12:34] <robin_> Yeah we use suse 11.4 at work
[12:34] <robin_> but maybe we will change over
[12:34] <sagaci> robin_: fyi, the 0 in 11.10 is significant
[12:34] <darshan> i am getting number of errors for some task ,and for that i am not able to read the errors of starting as there is no scrollbar present to scroll screen in ubuntu ,is der any way to get my issue solve
[12:34] <robin_> got to see if it can cross compile picomod (embedded linux on arm)
[12:34] <phlak_user> kriss_: i havent tried this but apparently setting the TMOUT value in /etc/profile does it; not sure if it works for Gnome
[12:35] <muelli> Guest5582: Do a "make V=1" and pastebin the output.
[12:35] <NeoCicak> hi.... for some reason empathy is no longer able to connect to my google talk account...
[12:35] <phlak_user> darshan: press shift+pgup to scroll up
[12:35] <GordonFreeman> lo
[12:35] <kriss_> phlak thanks im reading up on that as well though it seems more like its only working for CLI login - not via gui such as Gnome
[12:36] <Guest5582> muelli: http://pastebin.ca/2091763
[12:36] <muelli> Guest5582: do you have the headers installed?
  thank you
[12:36] <kamilnadeem> brb
[12:37] <abdo> hello everyybody
[12:37] <Guest5582> muelli: as far as i can see i do, kernel headers generic etc
[12:38] <DerNascher> I destroyed my GUI, how can i start networkmanager and connect to internet?
[12:39] <phlak_user> DerNascher: destroyed?
[12:40] <DerNascher> phlak_user: y it wont start anymore after i tried to remove unity-2d
[12:40] <DerNascher> can get to lightdm but not into classic mode
[12:41] <kriss_> Wow.. Not to bring politics into this chat.. but it seems that Gadaffi is just found dead..
[12:41] <bazhang> !ot | kriss_
[12:41] <phlak_user> DerNascher: and you dont have network manager in lightdm?
[12:41] <DerNascher> phlak_user: i have 11.10 and need an internet connection now to fix the packages, do i need to reconfigure with wpa_supplicant? or can i connect with networkmanager through console
[12:41] <kriss_> yeah i know. Sorry. I didnt mean to.. well im just supprised thats all
[12:42] <phlak_user> DerNascher: if you have a wired connection with dhcp, just typing dhclient eth0 is enough
[12:44] <DerNascher> phlak_user: i cant start anything with lightdm and therefore have no connection. i use wlan with networkmanager, for cabel i would have to setup my pc in a different room
[12:44] <Guest5582> muelli: any ideas or even if there's a way to get ndiswrapper working?
[12:44] <takamarou> Hi all.  I just ran some update on my ubuntu server, and my MySQL will no long restart.  I did some research around the net, and the advice seems to be to reinstall MySQL.  Is that going to completely wipe out all my data, or can I safely reinstall with data in tact?
[12:44] <phlak_user> DerNascher: you have a PC with wireless?
[12:45] <muelli> Guest5582: nope. sorry. But complain to the vendor!
[12:45] <DerNascher> phlak_user: Yes, with usb wlan stick
[12:45] <Guest5582> muelli: ok thanks
[12:45] <Daghdha> Hi, i sthere a way i can see if a NIC is enabled or not for powersafe?
[12:45] <phlak_user> takamarou: mysql data lives inside /var/lib/mysql you should back it up
[12:45] <Daghdha> One sometimes dies, even when used.
[12:46] <takamarou> phlak_user, so if I just do a straight copy of those files, and I can just replace them after the reinstall?
[12:46] <phlak_user> takamarou: if everything else is gonna remain the same; other way is to run mysqldump
[12:47] <phlak_user> DerNascher: there is a way to use wpa-supplicant and ifconfig for running the wifi through commandline
[12:48] <takamarou> phlak_user, can't run mysqldump, because I can't start the mysql service
[12:48] <phlak_user> takamarou: cant you start it in safe mode too?
[12:48] <DerNascher> phlak_user: yes i know, but i will have to reconfigure and delete networkmanager and wanted to ask if there is a simpler method
[12:48] <blackshirt> takamarou : why you can start mysql service ?
[12:48] <takamarou> phlak_user, nope, can't start anything.
[12:48] <takamarou> blackshirt, wish I knew
[12:48] <phlak_user> DerNascher: its got nothing to do with Network Manager
[12:49] <kriss_> phlak while we´re at it.. Is there any way you know of which makes mschapv2 possible in linux ? All ive been able to find is you create a file which contains the login credencials which is sorta against the whole mschap (peap) idea..
[12:49] <phlak_user> takamarou: do the logs give any error?
[12:49] <takamarou> phlak_user, all empty
[12:49] <phlak_user> kriss_: i am able to run PEAP quite successfully
[12:50] <phlak_user> takamarou: what happens when you start mysqld from a terminal
[12:50] <kriss_> phlak_user uhmm well how to you tell linux to take your login credencials and use that to connect to a certain wifi in order to get the actual account info ?
[12:51] <takamarou> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/tDENT9Zs
[12:51] <blackshirt> takamarou : what your mysql error say ?
[12:51] <ChristianAdamski> Hey, simple Question: how long should restore of a small file from a large (1TB) archive using duplicity take?
[12:52] <phlak_user> kriss_: well you enable wpa-enterprise in your ap/router which in turn looks at a RADIUS server; in the linux client, when you connect to the AP, it throws up a dialog where you can enter the username and password
[12:52] <Kartagis> !hostname
[12:52] <takamarou> blackshirt, logs are empty
[12:52] <phlak_user> takamarou: what is the output of ls -la /var/lib/mysql
[12:53] <Confoozled> What does plymouth-splash have against my main process (874)?  Terminating?  what?
[12:53] <blackshirt> takamarou: how about service mysql restart ?
[12:54] <takamarou> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/E7Fa9Zyh
[12:54] <redworlf> hello
[12:54] <takamarou> blackshirt: "start: Job failed to start"
[12:54] <kriss_> phlak the problem is that i cant log in untill the user account is created on the computer. Its sorta a catch-22 since i dont know how to tell the computer which AP to connect to before the user is logged in.. Which it cant untill the account is verified by the AD server
[12:55] <blackshirt> takamarou: try to reconfigure it
[12:55] <takamarou> blackshirt, reconfigure what?  And how?  And can I do it without losing data?
[12:55] <phlak_user> kriss_: why would Ubuntu do a domain logon?
[12:55] <phlak_user> takamarou: was that output of /var/lib or /var/lib/mysql ?
[12:56] <takamarou> phlak_user, ehh.. Thought it was mysql, but I'll try again.. hold on, restarting server
[12:56] <kriss_> phlak_user well thats the point of having a domain. you have all the users at one place. I can connect to the domain just fine with any computer. Only i cant connect to it via wifi since the wifi needs login credencials in order to connect. Basicly without a connection to the AD users cant login to the computer.
[12:57] <Olleh> takamarou: make sure you run mysql as root (it should drop to the mysql user). The log you posted before with "Can't change dir" is a permission problem. (thats what Errocode: 13 is)
[12:57] <phlak_user> kriss_: i know that, my point is that why dont you logon as local user into the ubuntu pc and then setup the Wi-Fi auth in Network manager and then logout
[12:58] <takamarou> Olleh, I've been using root..  Which log were you referring to (I've posted a lot of stuff in the last 5 minutes)
[12:58] <Olleh> takamarou: http://pastebin.com/tDENT9Zs
[12:58] <_kad> hey , when i install the ubuntu 11.10 the sound is too !! with 11.04 is was high!! any issue for that?
[12:58] <phlak_user> takamarou: when you started mysqld from a terminal did you do sudo mysqld
[12:58] <Halabund> There are these timed changing backgrounds in ubuntu (11.10).  How can I make my own set of pictures to cycle through?
[12:59] <takamarou> phlak_user, yeah, I forgot sudo the first time, but then tried again.  No output, and still empty log files
[12:59] <llutz> takamarou: "ls -ld /var/lib/mysql"
[12:59] <phlak_user> Halabund: in appearance, there is an option to specify other picture folder
[12:59] <kriss_> phlak well i could do that.. But thats not really a good idea with somthing like ~1000 potential users.. Then the network would see ME as the one being logged into the network.. Seeing my password in worst case.. But certainly also get access to my personal files
[12:59] <kriss_> i need people to log into their own accounts via wifi. Isnt that possible ? or is that only somthing that works in windows ?
[13:00] <iceroot> kriss_: so you mean the wifi-credentials should be the same as the user-credentials?
[13:01] <kriss_> iceroot exactly.. Thats how i belive its done in Windows..
[13:01] <Halabund> phlak_user I can only see a + and a - buttons, which indeed add a picture folder.  But my question was about making a set of pictures to cycle through, like it's possible with the builtin backgrounds
[13:01] <phlak_user> kriss_: WPA-Enterprise is used to allow people to access the Wi-Fi Network by authenticating them against a RADIUS server - at the backend could be an AD server, an LDAP server, a SQL database
[13:01] <takamarou> llutz, drwx------ 13 mysql mysql 4096 2011-10-20 07:48 /var/lib/mysql
[13:01] <iceroot> kriss_: yes there is some famous app for that on linux
[13:01] <cruejones> hi, where can I get 11.10 server kernel source?  does not seem to be on dvd iso
[13:01] <iceroot> kriss_: let me try to remeber the name
[13:01] <induz> i have p4 intell based desktop using Ubuntu 10.4 with 1 gb memory... How can i make ubuntu fast
[13:01] <llutz> takamarou: shouldnt that be rwxr-x---- (750 or 755)?
[13:02] <kriss_> iceroot awsome. id love to be able to install ubuntu on our laptops as well.
[13:02] <antimatters> kernel.org
[13:02] <phlak_user> Halabund: not sure what you mean. do you want to know how to create the pictures? umm take photos with a camera, use gimp and your creativity
[13:02] <takamarou> phlak_user, that was the correct output of ls -la /var/lib/mysql
[13:02] <iceroot> kriss_: freeradius
[13:02] <iceroot> kriss_: thats the name of it and exaclty what you want
[13:03] <ThinkT510> !source | cruejones
[13:03] <Halabund> phlak_user, I want the pictures to change every hour or so automatically.  Surely you know how this is possible with the builtin pictures.  But I want to choose my own pictures.  Does treating everyone like stupid really make you happy?
[13:03] <induz> i have used computer janitor bvut still its slow
[13:03] <kriss_> iceroot so it will let me use my entered credencials to log on to a wpa_Enterprise ? awsome
[13:03] <phlak_user> iceroot: freeradius is a radius server
[13:03] <iceroot> kriss_: yes
[13:03] <takamarou> llutz, that didn't fix it
[13:03] <iceroot> phlak_user: yes?
[13:03] <phlak_user> takamarou: you need to sudo chmod 755 /var/lib/mysql
[13:03] <induz> i am using gnome
[13:03] <signal0> Halabund: https://launchpad.net/wallpaper-stacks <- maybe this helps u?
[13:03] <iceroot> kriss_: e.g. you use a backend for syncing user-credentials and wifi credentials
[13:04] <iceroot> kriss_: openldap, ad, mysql and so on
[13:04] <kriss_> iceroot.. waaaait.. what i need is the client.. not a server.. you know that right ?
[13:04] <induz> what is bleachBit
[13:04] <Halabund> signal0, that's exactly what I needed, thanks
[13:04] <phlak_user> kriss_: what you are looking for is Domain Logons
[13:04] <kriss_> im not up to set up a SERVER.. i already have a server
[13:04] <kriss_> yeah
[13:04] <takamarou> phlak_user, no luck.  Does that need to be a recusrive chmod?
[13:04] <induz> how can i use bleachBit cleaner
[13:04] <iceroot> kriss_: ah ok
[13:05] <phlak_user> takamarou: nope
[13:05] <phlak_user> takamarou: what did you mean by no luck? did the chmod not work?
[13:05] <induz> where can I get BleachBit
[13:05] <iceroot> kriss_: we are using kerberos + network-manager + freeradius
[13:05] <iceroot> kriss_: based on openldap as a backend
[13:05] <Tech-1> induz  i doubt your system is clogged, linux don't work that way
[13:06] <kriss_> iceroot we use a windows AD server.. im not serveradmin myself. only manage clients at a remote site here
[13:06] <takamarou> phlak_user, the chmod worked, but mysql still doesn't start
[13:06] <induz> why so much memory is being used
[13:06] <cruejones> ubottu: thanks but my problem is I do not have access to internet and my repo is the local server iso.  is there a sources iso I can download?
[13:06] <phlak_user> takamarou: what is the output of sudo mysqld in a terminal?
[13:06] <Tech-1> its probably either a graphics issue or you have something msiconfiged
[13:07] <takamarou> phlak_user, no output
[13:07] <phlak_user> takamarou: did it come back to prompt?
[13:07] <takamarou> phlak_user, yep
[13:07] <kriss_> iceroot what i need is a way to simply authenticate against the server without having to be logged in first. Though it needs to use the login credencials i enter.. so it needs to ask the AD server before i actually gets logged in. I havent seen anything in linux that does that
[13:07] <NapseT> hi
[13:07] <arand> induz: bleachbit likely won't help with low memory issues..
[13:08] <phlak_user> kriss_: is this what you want to achieve -> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html
[13:08] <iceroot> kriss_: i know there are freeradius-setups which are using that scenary but dont know about details
[13:08] <th_> !nounity
[13:09] <kriss_> phlak_user im already using Lw-open to join the domain. That works like a charm. But the problem with wifi is that i cant connect to the wifi before ive supplied it with user credencials.. and it has to be done before i actually get logged in (as the computer obviously dont know my account untill its verified it)
[13:10] <RedNifre> Hi!
[13:10] <RedNifre> Is it possible to set the home folder as my desktop folder? Ticking "desktop_is_home_dir" in gconf-edit doesn't work in Unity :/
[13:11] <ThinkT510> RedNifre: why would you want to do that?
[13:11] <phlak_user> kriss_: not sure i know how to do that
[13:11] <kriss_> phlak_user the main problem is tha tonly solution ive seen involves wpa_supplicant to be supplied with username and password - which defies the purpose of having a AD with usercredencials
[13:11] <Olleh> sounds like a crazy idea.. but maybe you could: ln -s /home/user/ /home/user/Desktop/
[13:11] <RedNifre> ThinkT510 it's my experience that having the desktop show the content of my home directory is more useful for me.
[13:11] <Olleh> no idea what kinda shenanigans that will create though :D
[13:11] <kriss_> phlak_user exactly.. thats the main thing keeping Windows in its posision here.
[13:12] <markdark> Olleh: that will be strange
[13:12] <Olleh> very. but will probably work.
[13:12] <markdark> Olleh: symlinking a directory to a directory after the symlink
[13:12] <RedNifre> Olleh I thought about that, too, but I wanted to check for a "proper" way to do it first
[13:13] <Olleh> just dont search recursively, and you should be fine hah
[13:13] <RedNifre> D'oh
[13:13] <phlak_user> takamarou: sudo mysqld_safe from terminal
[13:13] <markdark> :)
[13:13] <RedNifre> So, what are the risks?
[13:14] <Olleh> im not sure, sounds like a crazy idea to me. But the only thing that comes to mind is infinate recursive directories.
[13:14] <dryicebomb> RedNifre: you can change the home directory in /etc/passwd
[13:14] <Olleh> since you could go /home/user/Desktop/Desktop/Desktop/... infinately.
[13:14] <RedNifre> Yes, but how bad will that be?
[13:15] <krosenvold> Is there any way to bring up the desktop in "vga" mode, I just switched graphic cards ?
[13:15] <RedNifre> dryicebomb Why would I change the home directory?
[13:15] <phlak_user> kriss_: does this give any clues -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970987
[13:15] <takamarou> phlak_user, brb..  switching to laptop so I can sit in front of the server
[13:15] <phlak_user> takamarou: ok
[13:15] <Olleh> RedNifre: pretty bad, since whatever program would never end (unless it has a recursion limit).
[13:17] <Olleh> RedNifre: although it should be pretty safe. worse case scenario you just rm /home/user/Desktop
[13:17] <takamarou> phlak_user, back... infinite loop of "MysqlD restarted" and "Number of processes running now: 0"
[13:18] <kriss_> phlak_user sadly ive read that post long ago. Its for wired network.. plus we dont use certificate here. But ill try to contact the guy who wrote that to see if he knows anything.
[13:18] <antihc3> why would xorg use 100% UP and gdl_box around 90% (i am running on a core i7)  i am getting pretty poor performance
[13:19] <niklas_> Hey. How does one delete an arp entry with Ubuntu? arp -d doesn't work
[13:19] <phlak_user> takamarou: infinite loop?
[13:20] <phlak_user> kriss_: oh ok
[13:20] <RedNifre> Olleh, it didn't work correctly. When I do "cd Desktop" in the terminal, followed by "ls" I see the home folder (not it's content). I have to do "cd myusername" to get into the dir.
[13:20] <phlak_user> niklas_: try sudo
[13:20] <takamarou> phlak_user, yeah, those two lines just keep repeating over and over again.. infinitely
[13:20] <niklas_> ... i'm root
[13:21] <Olleh> RedNifre: then you probably symlinked it strange. probably symlinked the home folder inside the current desktop folder. First move the real folder out of the way (or delete it if empty) and then symlink.
[13:21] <vafied> morning
[13:21] <RedNifre> Olleh, okay, I didn't delete the folder first...
[13:21] <ThinkT510> niklas_: you shouldn't be, ubuntu doesn't support an enabled root account
[13:21] <vafied> it is safe to upgrade ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 when dialaog shows up ?
[13:21] <Olleh> that would be why :)
[13:22] <vafied> it is safe to upgrade ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 when dialaog shows up ?
[13:22] <phlak_user> takamarou: on mysqld_safe?
[13:22] <odb|fidel> vafied: define safe ;)
[13:22] <RedNifre> Olleh, now I get "file or directory not found" :/
[13:22] <jay> hi all
[13:22] <takamarou> phlak_user, correct
[13:22] <Olleh> ln -s /home/user/ /home/user/Desktop
[13:22] <craeden> l
[13:22] <RedNifre> I never created a symlink before, could you be very specific about what exactly I have to do?
[13:22] <znow> I need my user "deploy" to be able to write to /var/www/apps/advicecapital and the folders in there, how do I do? with cmd
[13:22] <Olleh> that exactly, replace user with your username.
[13:23] <Olleh> no end slash
[13:23] <kriss_> dang. Remastersys has stopped.. Anyone know of any alternatives so i can repack a costumized ubuntu back into a distro so i can start mass installing it ?
[13:23] <Guest58929> anybody knows miss bc basic calculator on ubuntu server
[13:23] <RedNifre> Oh, I wrote the end slash, sorry :o)
[13:23] <Olleh> :)
[13:23] <craeden> ahmm... can anyone help me with xrandr?
[13:23] <niklas_> ThinkT510: I never enabled the root user
[13:23] <niklas_> It's either enabled by default or doesn't have to be enabled in order to use it
[13:23] <RedNifre> Aha! It seems to work (at least in the terminal)! Thank you!
[13:23] <ThinkT510> niklas_: how are you root?
[13:24] <Olleh> cool. just remember this command, in case things go tits up: rm /home/user/Desktop
[13:24] <RedNifre> Guess I'll have to log in again to test if it works in Unity. Brb.
[13:24] <niklas_> ThinkT510: sudo su -
[13:24] <b0ot> Has anyone here ever messed around with any of lscube's streaming projects (Feng, Flux, Libnemesi, Theater)?
[13:24] <Olleh> this will remove just the symlink
[13:24] <RedNifre> thanks
[13:24] <ThinkT510> niklas_: never do that
[13:24] <Guest58929> can not install bc on ubuntu server
[13:24] <niklas_> Of course i should do that
[13:24] <vafied> odb|fidel: can be done with no problem
[13:24] <craeden> anyone who uses xrandr?
[13:25] <odb|fidel> vafied: it worked without issues on 3of 4 boxes here ;)
[13:25] <odb|fidel> vafied: there is never a guaranty that everything just works
[13:25] <craeden> a
[13:25] <CybeRebel> hello all
[13:26] <vafied> odb|fidel: all right so it's better if i backup my /home then
[13:26] <Guest58929> no pros here?
[13:26] <CybeRebel> just testing my irssi setup :)
[13:26] <bindi> Why does compiz eat 23% cpu?
[13:26] <dandre> hello
[13:26] <craeden> does anyone use xrandr here?
[13:26] <craeden> need help with xrandr..
[13:27] <Guest58929> iam using a script which needs bc to run
[13:27] <b0ot> Has anyone here ever messed around with any of lscube's streaming projects (Feng, Flux, Libnemesi, Theater)? It seems like one of the more developed rtp streaming servers available. (Darwin/Live555 seem a bit older). I would also be interested in hearing any other suggestions for rtp media streaming server suggestions.
[13:27] <Guest58929> but bc is missing
[13:27] <craeden> need help in using xrandr pls..
[13:28] <llutz> !info bc  | Guest58929 install it
[13:28] <ThinkT510> Guest58929: sudo apt-get install bc
[13:28] <RedNifre> :-/
[13:28] <craeden> :q
[13:28] <RedNifre> Linking my Destkop to my home didn't work properly :-/
[13:29] <RedNifre> It works both in bash and nautilus (clicking on the desktop folder brings my to my home), but on the actual unity desktop, I only see one folder link "myusername", which I can open in nautilus to see the content of my home dir :(
[13:29] <RedNifre> So I don't actually see the content of my home dir on my desktop :(
[13:29] <Olleh> RedNifre: aww, thats a shame. Sorry im out of ideas then. rm /home/user/Desktop; mkdir /home/user/Desktop
[13:29] <dandre> I can't run either gnome or unity on my system after upgrading to 11.10. Only unity-2D or gnome classic ar ok. My graphic carte is : GeForce 6150 LE/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!  and the driver used is nvidia proprietary, version 280.13. Where will I find information to solce this issue?
[13:30] <Olleh> oh. does unity even use the Desktop folder to show stuff on the desktop? i'm not sure. i dont use Unity.
[13:30] <kriss_> dandre trust me.. gnome classic is what you want.. well at least if you want work done
[13:31] <Yamauchi> unity is shite
[13:31] <RedNifre> Olleh, well, what is shown on my desktop changed... or maybe showing a link to my home is just a fall back?
[13:31] <h00k> !language | Yamauchi
[13:31] <Yamauchi> yessir
[13:31] <th_> Olleh: yes, it does. gnome3 doesn't (by default)
[13:31] <s1> !gnome2
[13:32] <Olleh> ah ok. Then im out of ideas.
[13:32] <s1> !notunity
[13:32] <him> hello
[13:33] <RedNifre> Well, guess I have to give up now. Bye everyone!
[13:33] <him> can any one tell me why my system info displaying me i have 2.9 gb RAM where my BIOS showing me i have 6 gb RAM?
[13:33] <LjL> him: are you running 32bit?
[13:33] <Olleh> him: 32bit OS
[13:33] <him> ya
[13:34] <him> LjL: ya
[13:34] <vohe> hi, Folks,  - i did it. I select "Update to 11.10"... Fist of all a got an Error: Grub2: ELF Header smaller than expected. That's fixed !
[13:34] <LjL> him: 32bit means you can use at most 4gb of RAM, at least without using the PAE extension, and for various reasons the actual amount becomes less than that
[13:34] <him> LjL: what is PAE ext?
[13:35] <LjL> !pae | him
[13:35] <vohe> But now. I Boot up in Ubuntu classic mode but i miss half of my gnome-panel. Where is the system setting? How can i get this back?
[13:35] <ThinkT510> him: physical address extention
[13:36] <dr_willis> so use a pae kernel, or you may want to switch to a 64bit install.
[13:36] <vohe> And additionally: How can i delete the bottom gnome-panel?
[13:36] <iceroot> him: if it is possible, reinstall with amd64 instead of using pae
[13:36] <compdoc> vohe, youre missing the icons, or the panel itself?
[13:36] <him> iceroot: but i amusing intel board
[13:36] <dr_willis> I wonder how many questions on askubuntu.com are about trying to get the classic/fallback/failsafe modes in 11.10 to be more like the gnome2 :)
[13:36] <iceroot> him: amd64 has nothing to do with amd
[13:36] <vohe> compdoc i miss the "menue entry" e.g. system
[13:37] <iceroot> him: like i386 has nothing to do with intel (i = intel)
[13:37] <dr_willis> him:  amd64 works in intel hardware.
[13:37] <stanman246> is there a way to join a sbs2003 domain and logon without the need of domain/username, but only username?
[13:37] <him> iceroot: what r the problems with pae?
[13:37] <h00k> stanman246: probably not, without a password.
[13:37] <compdoc> vohe, Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:38] <dr_willis> him:  ive heard it can be a little bit slower then a true 64bit kernel. but most likely not noticeable by most people
[13:38] <iceroot> him: http://blog.linuxolution.org/computers-software/linux-os/linus-torvalds-comments-on-pae-physical-address-extension/
[13:38] <vohe> compdoc. sorry. Yes 11.10 (just updated and with fixed grub error)
[13:39] <ThinkT510> !notunity | vohe
[13:39] <iceroot> him: very interesting article (with the typical linus-flame-style)
[13:39] <compdoc> vohe, it sounds like you want to got back to the gnome 2 desktop?
[13:39] <stanman246> h00k, well, i'd like to use the AD username/password, but i don't want users to enter domain/ before their username, they won't remember that
[13:39] <curt> hey guys, i updated to 11.10 and it ran fine for a while, then after an update ive been having a ton of problems, first it was alsa, then it was a check battery state faiel and now when i boot the screen gets stuck at "stopping system v runtime compatability" can anyone help?
[13:39] <him> iceroot: well i am going to visit
[13:39] <him> thanks dears
[13:40] <Yamauchi> my suggestion is go with KDE
[13:40] <iceroot> him: so always use 64bit if the cpu supports it (doesnt matter how much ram you use)
[13:40] <vohe> ubottu, as i wrote i USE the classic mode.  (I try the old fashiond:  sudo gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel) but no response
[13:40] <dr_willis> anyone noticed in  gnome-terminal when using screen the ctrl-a- Mapings not working? ie: ctrl-a n for next, is not seeming to work here
[13:40] <s1> curt: can you pass that state with Alt+F5 ! and get a tty console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 !
[13:40] <ThinkT510> !gnome2 | vohe
[13:40] <iceroot> dr_willis: working fine here
[13:40] <dr_willis> iceroot:  ok.. let me hit it some more..
[13:41] <curt> s1 im not sure what alt f5 does but yes i can ctrl+alt+f2 to get a terminal
[13:41] <him> iceroot: but i heard there r less software for 64bit? !
[13:41] <dr_willis> aha.. its a new screen sesson i some how made. :)  there was no other window to go to in screen..
[13:41] <vohe> comdoc, no matter wich gnome i use. I only want the panel on top and no panel on the bottom. The top panel should include all Items like gnome 2.3
[13:41] <soulnafein> HELP!!! I've was changing some compiz settings, then I've restarted (that computer logs in automatically in the default session) and the top bar disappeared, which means I can't run programs. How can I logout without the top bar and access a temporary session where I can reset compiz to the defaults?
[13:41] <iceroot> dr_willis: but i disabled the menu-bar which is catching some keycombos
[13:41] <iceroot> him: no
[13:41] <iceroot> him: 1. 64bit can run 32 bit, 2. opensource-software is always build for i386 and amd64
[13:41] <him> iceroot: so why others using 32 bits?
[13:41] <dr_willis> him:  i normally run 64bit on all hardware that can do 64bit.
[13:41] <Narc> Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if they get the blue envelope indicator icon when they have unread empathy messages in Oneiric, because I dot not...
[13:42] <iceroot> him: because ubuntu recommend 32bit
[13:42] <gchilloux> quelqu'un utilise Vmware et Ubuntu 11.10 ??
[13:42] <iceroot> him: because not every cpu can use 64bit
[13:42] <LjL> !fr | gchilloux
[13:42] <dr_willis> him:  there can be some quirks..     and the ubuntu web site reccomends 32bit as a 'failsafe' reccomendation.
[13:42] <iceroot> him: but there is no reason to use 32bit when the cpu can use 64bit
[13:42] <dr_willis> him:  if you know your system is 64bit, and know what 64bit means.. then you may as well use 64bit
[13:42] <Arney> I have to "init.d/jabberd2 start" manually... anyway to have the system start the server for me?
[13:42] <him> dr_willis: thanks
[13:42] <iceroot> !boot | Arney
[13:42] <s1> curt: okay , try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:43] <toshu> i m using jaunty but unable to play videos
[13:43] <iceroot> Arney: also use "sudo service foo start" instead of "sudo /etc/init.d/foo start"
[13:43] <dr_willis> Arney:  you could put the command in rc.local, or make a proper link/sysv script link..
[13:43] <toshu> pls help
[13:43] <curt> s1, ok thanks ill try it.
[13:43] <iceroot> !upstart | Arney
[13:43] <ThinkT510> toshu: jaunty is no longer supported
[13:43] <Arney> iceroot: service doesn't come with ubuntu.
[13:43] <iceroot> Arney: sure
[13:43] <dr_willis> service command is in ubuntu...
[13:43] <iceroot> Arney: 10.10 should be the first
[13:43] <him> dr_willis: i have checked with dmidecode its showing system support 64bit
[13:43] <iceroot> Arney: or maybe 10.04
[13:43] <him> so i am going there.
[13:44] <toshu> ok
[13:44] <Arney> iceroot... it does come with it!
[13:44] <h00k> stanman246: check with #ubuntu-server or maybe there's some !ldap things you can work
[13:44] <dr_willis> him:  so if you dont want to reinstall.. use pae kernel.. or reformat/reinstall 64bit.
[13:44] <Whoa1> privmsg wicker dude
[13:44] <iceroot> Arney: yes
[13:44] <stanman246> h0
[13:44] <h00k> !ldap | stanman246
[13:44] <stanman246> h00k, thanks
[13:44] <him> dr_willis : i will reformat
[13:44] <h00k> stanman246: good luck
[13:44] <kubo56> Hi guys, I have this really annoying problem since I upgraded to 11.10, anytime I play a flash video on the internet the sound is not correct, there's like a weird sound in the background(works fine when I watch youtube videos or play mp3s..) can you help me?? thank you
[13:44] <him> i am also kde fan
[13:44] <Arney> Thanks everyone.... specially iceroot.
[13:45] <stanman246> h00k, am trying to get everyone on ubu, but still the current backend is a sbs domain
[13:45] <iceroot> kubo56: youtube is flash
[13:45] <him> thanks everyone esp iceroot and dr_willis
[13:45] <dr_willis> youtube can do html5 also for a lot of videos :)
[13:45] <ps1quiKo> hi!
[13:46] <kubo56> iceroot:I know but for some reason it doesnt do that on youtube, but it's not working with embeded videos...
[13:46] <vohe> i will look out for a gnome chanel...
[13:46] <kubo56> *embedded
[13:46] <iceroot> vohe: they are not on freenode
[13:46] <iceroot> vohe: the main channel i mean
[13:47] <vohe> iceroot thanks,for that
[13:51] <curt> s1, are you still around. i did sudo spt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and it didnt help. boot still gets stuck on stopping system v runtime compatability
[13:52] <emmanuel_> #fedora-fr
[13:53] <jmcantrell> does anyone use the compiz grid plugin in unity? for some reason, it doesn't place things correctly or cycle the window sizes in certain instances
[13:54] <vafied> how to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10
[13:54] <vafied> ?
[13:54] <s1> curt: does ps -a shows the GUI running!
[13:54] <s1> !upgrade > vafied
[13:54] <Cuki> don't apt-get distrougrade work?
[13:54] <saroj> I am having nvidia driver issue, eror said failed to load blacklisted driver nvidia_current on ubuntu 11.10
[13:54] <saroj> anyone Please
[13:55] <curt> s1, ill go check for you. sorry, its gonna be a long process i only have one notebook so im switching back and forth between the hard drive that works and the one that doesnt
[13:55] <phlak_user> !upgrade
[13:55] <g0rs> saroj: ask your question directly
[13:55] <Cuki> see if your nvidia drivre is blacklisted
[13:55] <dr_willis> Just noticed the Unity panel icon dosent seem to work correctly with google chrome, i have 5 chrome windows open, panel just shows 1 icon (no arrows to indicate theres more then 1 window/app called chrome), and clickiing on the icon does not bring chrome to the front.
[13:55] <curt> s1, im going to assume the gui is not running since i THINK thats where some of the trouble is coming from. so what are my options depending on wether its running or not?
[13:55] <saroj> g0rs I am having nvidia driver issue after upgrading to 11.10, eror said failed to load blacklisted driver nvidia_current on ubuntu 11.10
[13:55] <jita> For some reason i have to reinstall ubuntu, could i use my exisiting ssh key in newly installed ubuntu without creating a new one ?
[13:55] <s1> curt: see if the Desktop is missing , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop .
[13:56] <curt> s1, alright ill try that next, thanks
[13:56] <saroj> Cuki its nvidia 7300
[13:56] <g0rs> saroj: i'm on 11.04 . I'm sure somebody has the same issue in the channel.
[13:56] <Tech-1> 7300 should work fine
[13:56] <saroj> g0rs Cool
[13:56] <vafied> thanks upgrading now (Y)
[13:56] <phlak_user> saroj: failed to load blacklisted driver seems to be the correct thing to do
[13:57] <Cuki> saroj, is it proprietrary driver?
[13:57] <phlak_user> saroj: otherwise it shouldnt be blacklisted
[13:57] <saroj> Cuki, its Nvidia go 7300
[13:57] <saroj> phlak_user, I tried alot, but its not working
[13:58] <peteg301> join #railsadmin
[13:58] <peteg301> whoops
[13:58] <saroj> phlak_user dkms status says its installed
[13:58] <Confoozled> Can anybody help me?  When I boot, I get a message that says "plymouth-splash main process (854) terminated with status 1"
[13:59] <Guest95103> Hi there. I upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04 with Lenove t420.  The login via graphical interface fails (returns to login after a short while). I can login through terminal, and through a new account. Any ideas how to progress? Many thanks.
[13:59] <saroj> Cuki could you please help me out
[13:59] <private_meta> Can anyone tell me why the login on EVERY Ubuntu server takes so freaking long?
[14:00] <Cuki> saroj, i'm googling
[14:00] <saroj> Cuki, Even I did alot with no success :
[14:01] <Cuki> saroj check the /etc/modprobe.d/ to see if thres any blacklist with your driver in it...
[14:02] <Confoozled> Can anybody help me?  When I boot, I get a message that says "plymouth-splash main process (854) terminated with status 1"
[14:02] <pis0ga> Guest95103, try to deleting file ~/.Xauthority. hope it works..
[14:02] <private_meta> I already disabled the motd generation to speed up minecraft login via SSH, but it's still so slow, anything I can do?
[14:02] <saroj> Cuki No, only nouveau
[14:02] <Cuki> saroj, odd
[14:03] <Cuki> saroj, maybe it is somewhere
[14:03] <curt> s1, hey friend. thanks for all the help btw. I ran ps -a and didnt really understand the output. Regardless i tried to install ubuntu-desktop and it was already the newest version. i reinstalled anyway to be sure but it didnt help. the boot seemed to hang at a different place this time though. battery check like before but it didnt fail, the battery check was ok
[14:03] <Cuki> saroj, did u tried ms solution?
[14:04] <tzoscott> Since I upgraded to 11.10, every time I reboot my laptop forgets my (hidden) wireless network's key. At home, the laptop still remembers the wireless key (that network is not hidden though, if that matters any). Ideas?
[14:04] <kelvinella> hi, how to sync tomboy?  it doesnt work in 11.10
[14:06] <saroj> Cuki, checked it but didn't find it. Now it says module nvidia not found
[14:07] <Confoozled> Can anybody help me?  When I boot, I get a message that says "plymouth-splash main process (854) terminated with status 1"
[14:07] <curt> s1, can you give any other advice?
[14:08] <chadwin> hi
[14:08] <tzoscott> Am I the only one whose 11.10 system keeps "forgetting" the wireless key? :-)
[14:08] <kelvinella> how to sync in tomboy notes?
[14:08] <Semtex> workrave has been deleted from 11.10, how can I install workrave on ubuntu 11.10 classic?
[14:08] <genii-around> saroj: Do you have some blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d/  which is preventing nvidia driver from loading? Might be named nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf or similar
[14:09] <Semtex> I am getting 'configure: error: X RECORD extension headers files required on Unix platform'
[14:09] <BluesKaj> hey all
[14:09]  * conntrack looks for a new job
[14:10] <dc5ala> curt, have a look if /var/run is a symbolic link to /run
[14:10] <turbomettwurst> does anyonehave an idea the + in "-rwxrwxrw-+" means?
[14:11] <curt> dc5ala, ahh, ok how do i do that? i have to swap out my hard drive to do anyhting to my broken system so if you could tell me what might fix that if what you expect happens
[14:11] <Confoozled> So....nobody knows anything about plymouth-splash?
[14:11] <kelvinella> how to fix tomboy synchronize bugs?
[14:12] <diki> Hi all
[14:12] <ryan> can someone help me install this shellscript for quake 4?
[14:12] <diki> when i group commands in a single line i.e make clean;make;make install how do i also confirm with a Y or N when i am doing an apt-get install as well?
[14:12] <Guest6171> can someone help me install quake 4 demo for linux on ubuntu?
[14:13] <dc5ala> curt, /var/lock and /var/run are now symlinks, you probably have to fix those
[14:13] <muelli> diki: what do you mean? You can chain commands like "echo foo && echo bar && false && echo not echoed || echo but this is
[14:13] <curt> dc5ala, ok thank you, how would i go about fixing them?
[14:13] <muelli> Guest6171: what is your issue?
[14:13] <diki> muelli:sometimes when i do apt-get install i am asked to reply with Y or N
[14:14] <dweez> Anyone else with Gnome3 installed finding that one of the gnome-extensions-??? is causing either 100% CPU utilization or crashing the destop?
[14:14] <diki> so all i am asking is how to do that with a command as well
[14:14] <Guest6171> its asking in terminal where i want to install it and wont let me do it?
[14:14] <turbomettwurst> prepend the command with sudo
[14:14] <diki> I am renting amazon ec2 services and its a pain in the ass to setup the instance each and everytime
[14:14] <muelli> diki: I don't get your question. Do you want to ask the user for a "Y/n"?
[14:14] <llutz> turbomettwurst: theres an acl associated with that file
[14:14] <diki> muelli:no i want to agree when installing
[14:14] <Confoozled> Can anybody help me?  When I boot, I get a message that says "plymouth-splash main process (854) terminated with status 1"
[14:14] <Guest6171> I cant get permission to install
[14:15] <muelli> diki: what's the problem then? It should work right away
[14:15] <dweez> diki, use -y with each apt-get command to "assume-yes"
[14:15] <muelli> Guest6171: Please help us help you. What is your exact issue? I.e. pastebin us any relevant output. How do you know that you've got a problem?
[14:15] <diki> dweez:before or after install?
[14:15] <dweez> during
[14:15] <turbomettwurst> thx llutz i will see if i can find the reason for that
[14:15] <diki> so basically apt-get install <package> -y?
[14:15] <dweez> such as, "sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade"
[14:15] <Guest6171> ill paste it if i can
[14:16] <llutz> turbomettwurst: man getfacl, setfacl
[14:16] <curt> dc5ala, can you suggest how i would fix those?
[14:16] <Guest6171> Please enter the installation path [/usr/local/games/quake4-demo/]
[14:16] <Guest6171> No write permission to /usr/local/games
[14:16] <dweez> I'd put the -y immediately after the "install" (or whatever) command diki
[14:16] <dc5ala> curt, first step would be having a look at them, if that is your problem. For example: ls -l /var/run, should give you something like /var/run -> /run and a "l" as first letter indicating its a symlink
[14:16] <diki> dweez:thanks
[14:16] <dweez> np
[14:16] <Ian_> i'm using ubuntu server 10.04 and am trying to set up the LDAP server, but in trying to set it up (see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html, i'm at the backend.example.com.ldif step), i'm not sure how to create a file with that text through the commandline
[14:16] <turbomettwurst> Guest6171, prepend the install command with sudo
[14:16] <Guest6171> what is the install command
[14:16] <curt> dc5ala, alright, and if that is the problem what then?
[14:16] <Guest6171> im very new to terminal
[14:17] <dc5ala> curt, with the letter i mean in the flags at the beginning of the line
[14:17] <curt> dc5ala, ok
[14:17] <ThinkT510> Guest6171: sudo ./nameofscript
[14:18] <Confoozled> So....nobody knows anything about plymouth-splash?
[14:18] <s1> curt: you can try to pass the issue and get to the desktop by adding GRUB bootoptions parameters , do you have a dual-boot setup .. if so press "e" when you see GRUB Menu , then remove " quiet and splash " and add nomodeset , or xforcevesa .. you could try both .then press Ctrl+X to boot
[14:19] <Secluded1> are there any known bugs regarding running JDK 6 in oneiric?
[14:19] <dc5ala> curt, that depends on what /var/run currently is on your system, maybe a "bind mount" or something like that, then you will probably have to unmount it first, then rename /var/run just in case instead a delete, and create a symlink /var/run to /run
[14:19] <dandre> ok I have gnome-tweak-tools ans gnome-panel but I still have some issues:
[14:19] <dandre> I hvae lost all my shortcuts in my gnome panel
[14:19] <stercor> I'm using 11.10.  Is there a way to get the running tasks to show on a bar at the top or bottom of the screen?
[14:19] <s1> curt: if you don't have a dual-boot setup , press and hold shift , or space .. to show GRUB Menu .
[14:19] <grifo74> hello please help me remastersys is off and i like to remaster my ubuntu 11.10 how a make??????
[14:19] <Secluded1> i'm not able to run a JDK app in oneiric
[14:20] <dc5ala> curt, and then check /var/log and do the same for it, symlink /var/lock to /run/lock
[14:20] <curt> s1, i never see grub and i dont have dual boot. do i just apt-get remove quiet-splash? and spt-get install nomodset?
[14:20] <dandre> also in gnome-tweak-tool I have an error mark for shell theme
[14:21] <conntrack> Is it legal to spoof your reverse dns?
[14:21] <dc5ala> conntrack, wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support
[14:21] <reisio> I'm sure that's a matter of to whom you are spoofing it
[14:21] <curt> s1, ok im going to go try that. hold shift to get to grub, then e, then remove quiet splash and add nomodset and xforcevesa? how do i do all that? is it just options that will come up on screen?
[14:21] <conntrack> Is the right forum
[14:22] <Gnea> conntrack: try #freenode
[14:22] <s1> curt: no , those are kernel boot options not packages.
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[14:22] <ibqn> alt+f2 does not work in gnome 3.2, does any one know why and how to fix this?
[14:22] <curt> s1, alright so when i get into grub and then press e. what do i do from there?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> curt, read the ubottu post above
[14:23] <JasonX_MilSpec56> can i get some assistance with Driver install?
[14:23] <Narc> Confoozled: Which version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[14:23] <reisio> JasonX_MilSpec56: ?
[14:23] <curt> blueskaj, thanks
[14:23] <JasonX_MilSpec56> Ubuntu 11.10
[14:24] <s1> curt: Yes , you'll see a menu after hitting e with kernel boot lines , add those to the same line where quiet and splash is .
[14:24] <genii-around> ibqn: http://gunbladeiv.blogspot.com/2011/09/ubuntu-solving-altf2-problem-on-gnome-3.html
[14:24] <jankko> ^^
[14:25] <ibqn> genii-around, thank you
[14:25] <s1> curt:  after you add the them , press Ctrl+X to boot to the edited GRUB boot options.
[14:25] <grifo74> hello please help me remastersys is off and i like to remaster my ubuntu 11.10 how a make??????
[14:25] <BluesKaj> curt also , once you've finished editing grub , make sure you run sudo update-grub to apply the changes
[14:25] <curt> s1, alright and if that works for me i jsut need to set it to do that permanently
[14:25] <jankko> I need install dropbox in ubuntu? help me please
[14:25] <curt> ok, im going to try that. thank you
[14:26] <DJones> jankko: Are you using 11.10?
[14:26] <curt> ok, im going to try that. thank you
[14:26] <r> hola
[14:26] <dryicebomb> grifo74: what kind of problem are you having with remastersys?
[14:27] <Narc> Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if they get the blue envelope indicator icon when they have unread empathy messages in Oneiric, because I dot not. I read in a bug report that it was a know regression, is it true ? Thanks.
[14:27] <phunyguy_work> Narc, I get the same thing, you only get blue envelope if you haven't had an IM session open yet
[14:27] <Guest28776> alguien escribe en español?
[14:27] <s1> curt: will see from there , try to get to the Desktop first then make sure to acitve your graphic card driver .
[14:27] <DJones> !es | Guest28776
[14:27] <phunyguy_work> Narc, it is a known bug and has been reported.
[14:28] <phunyguy_work> (afaik)
[14:28] <clay-> can anybody recommend a web app i can run on my ubuntu 11.10? i want something that will give me a general overview of my system at a glance. load, memory, disk usage, etc?
[14:28] <Guest28776> thnks
[14:28] <dandre> How can I in gnome-classic minimize all my desktop windows as it was possible in gnome2?
[14:28] <curt> s1, ok. i want to remove quiet splash right? and add nomodset, not just add nomodset right?
[14:28] <islam_> when I stop the mouse on a music file it doesnt play the preview, what package should I install to get it working ?
[14:29] <stercor> How do I make a launcher in Unity?
[14:29] <Ian_> 	i'm using ubuntu server 10.04 and am trying to set up the LDAP server, but in trying to set it up (see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html, i'm at the backend.example.com.ldif step), i'm not sure how to create a file with that text through the command line
[14:29] <BluesKaj> curt, nomodeset ...be sure of the spelling
[14:29] <phunyguy_work> lan_, try #ubuntu-server channel
[14:29] <genii-around> ibqn: You're welcome
[14:29] <Confoozled> Can anybody help me?  When I boot, I get a message that says "plymouth-splash main process (854) terminated with status 1"
[14:29] <curt> bluesjak, oook. im going for it. thanks
[14:29] <blake> hi everyone can any one show me their fstab file with home separate extension so i can configure mine
[14:29] <ThinkT510> clay-: why a web app?
[14:29] <Narc> phunyguy_work: Thank you very much
[14:30] <phunyguy_work> Narc, nop
[14:30] <phunyguy_work> np*
[14:30] <s1> curt: right , if that didn't change anything , add the the other option .
[14:30] <stercor> How do I get rid of icons on the left-side bar of the page?
[14:30] <Narc> phunyguy_work: Any workaround yet ?
[14:30] <dc5ala> stercor, one way is to start the program, then right click on the icon in launcher -> keep in launcher, else you probably have to write a .desktop file
[14:30] <phunyguy_work> Narc, not as far as I know. I am just a user.
[14:30] <clay-> ThinkT510, because i'm using it as a server and don't have a monitor hooked up to it
[14:30] <Narc> phunyguy_work: Ok then, thanks
[14:30] <Ian_> thanks, phunyguy
[14:31] <gr33n7007h_> hey u guys, how do line up desktop icons to right by default in gnome? any ideas
[14:31] <s1> curt: the other option that is " xforcevesa " .
[14:31] <islam_> when I stop the mouse on a music file it doesnt play the preview, what package should I install to get it working ?
[14:31] <blake> anyone please
[14:31] <blake> ??
[14:32] <Confoozled> I guess I will ask later...
[14:32] <s1> blake: you should simple just state your issue :-)
[14:32] <marko_> why doesn't ubuntu come with python 3.0?
[14:32] <marko_> i have 2.7.2+ on 11.10
[14:32] <Freddy105> Hi all,
[14:32] <Freddy105> today I decided to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to the latest release
[14:32] <Freddy105> ubuntu told me that 10.10 was available and I upgraded
[14:32] <Freddy105> now, it tells me that 11.04 is available, but when I try to upgrade I get the following error: Could not find the release notes The server may be overloaded.
[14:32] <Freddy105> Any sugestions?
[14:32] <FloodBot1> Freddy105: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <LyzardKing> can somebody help me with xfce power manager?
[14:33] <phunyguy_work> !patience | blake
[14:33] <ThinkT510> marko_: you can install it from the repos
[14:33] <fritsch> marko_: just install python3
[14:33] <marko_> Freddy105, it would be best if you download the 11.10 (current release) .iso file, burn it and install it
[14:33] <marko_> just don't format the /home partition
[14:33] <blake> yes, my issue is that i reinstall ubuntu an i want to configure my fstab soi can access my files again
[14:33] <marko_> and everything else you might need
[14:33] <marko_> fritsch, ThinkT510 thanks
[14:33] <marko_> but still, why doesn't it use python 3.0 by default?
[14:34] <phunyguy_work> blake, how do you have /home mapped?
[14:34] <phunyguy_work> is it a seperate partition? network share?
[14:34] <ThinkT510> marko_: compatibility reasons
[14:34] <Freddy105> marko_, I don't have a /home partition, it's all in one partition
[14:34] <islam_> when I stop the mouse on a music file it doesnt play the preview, what package should I install to get it working ?
[14:34] <marko_> ThinkT510, i need it for school. Will it screw with my other programs?
[14:34] <JeffFromOhio> Man, holy cow, I must have been logged into IRC for like the past week and not even realized it lol
[14:34] <marko_> Freddy105, well you now for next time to always make separate partitions
[14:34] <Freddy105> marko_, also tried to upgrade from the cd directly to 11.10, failed
[14:34] <DJones> islam_: This may help, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/install-sushi-file-previewer-in-ubuntu.html
[14:34] <phunyguy_work> JeffFromOhio: :P
[14:34] <jankko> everybody I need help with dropbox install? somebody know it?
[14:35] <marko_> Freddy105, really? Can you tell me again what happens?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> marko_: no, 2.7 will remain installed and default
[14:35] <marko_> oh
[14:35] <DJones> jankko: Which version of ubuntu are you using
[14:35] <marko_> so how do i use python 3 in let's say the pycharm IDE ThinkT510 ?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> marko_: just when you want to use 3 make sure you specify it in the shebang of your scripts
[14:36] <marko_> ThinkT510, thanks:)
[14:36] <jankko> 10.04
[14:36] <LyzardKing> I need help with xfce4-power-manager
[14:36] <ThinkT510> marko_: no worries :)
[14:36] <LyzardKing> someone?
[14:36] <jimmy8888> how can i reconfigure the super key (ie windows key) in unity2d ?
[14:36] <phunyguy_work> LyzardKing: just ask what you need help with.
[14:36] <wam> Hi, which VNC Server should I use in unity (ubuntu 11.10)? I'd love to have something that integrates in the desktop, like showing me when someone connects. Any hints?
[14:36] <gr33n7007h_> hey u guys, how do line up desktop icons to right by default in gnome? any ideas
[14:36] <LyzardKing> it's not starting
[14:36] <phunyguy_work> LyzardKing: the WHOLE question
[14:36] <phunyguy_work> lol
[14:36] <curt> s1, alright so i got to grub and i edited it, there was something other than queit splash there as well i removed it all and jsut had nomodset. it got stuck at "fsck from util-linx 2.19.1"
[14:37] <compdoc> wam, I like vnc4server
[14:37] <marko_> ThinkT510, i get an error when i try to install it Failed to symbolic-link /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic to initrd.img: File exists
[14:37] <marko_> dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic (--configure)
[14:37] <wam> compdoc: does it have an icon or any notification in unity?
[14:37] <compdoc> wam, I dont think it shows an icon
[14:37] <fritsch> marko_: any reason to reinstall?
[14:37] <ThinkT510> marko_: how are you installing it?
[14:37] <Freddy105> marko_, I followed instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades, the command gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" gives sh: Can't open /media...
[14:37] <marko_> sudo apt-get install python3
[14:38] <marko_> fritsch, reinstall what?
[14:38] <pr0d> Hi all, does anyone know when the VM.cfg files are located for Xen VMs?
[14:38] <pr0d> where*
[14:38] <reisio> pr0d: find / -iname '*VM.cfg*'
[14:38] <reisio> pr0d: or if you think it comes with a package, use apt-file
[14:39] <ThinkT510> marko_: odd, i've had no problem with installing python3
[14:39] <evelyette> hi
[14:39] <reisio> hi
[14:39] <evelyette> if I issue the reboot command, my ubuntu don't boot automatically when in grub
[14:39] <pr0d> reisio tryed that, the naming of the .cfg is all wierd in ubuntu too, they should be located in /etc/xen but they are not there when using ubuntu as dom0
[14:39] <reisio> evelyette: what happens instead?
[14:39] <curt> s1, still around?
[14:39] <marko_> no i know what it is ThinkT510 i'm using the 3.0.0-11 kernel, not the -12, though it's installed i can't use it, it won't get me to the login screen. I'll just remove these two packages and install python
[14:39] <evelyette> I have to press enter in order to boot ... how can I set it to boot automatically
[14:40] <pr0d> never had this problem using any other distro as dom0
[14:40] <reisio> evelyette: does it try to boot a different entry automatically?
[14:40] <s1> curt: shoudn't remove anything elese on the line .. JUST " queit splash " and rememmber to press Esc then when you get back to GRUB Menu press Ctrl+X too boot
[14:40] <evelyette> reisio, no, it just doesn't boot ... there's no timeout
[14:40] <marko_> python3 installed :)
[14:40] <blake> is in sda2
[14:40] <lolol> Hello... I just updated to ubuntu 11.10 and want to use gnome as shell. I followed the instructions on web but my gnome shell is broken... No Dock, No Panels; I only get the menubar of current app on top of screen (unity way)....
[14:41] <curt> s1, ok, i can go try it again but i think im goign to end up wtih fsck from util-linux 2.19.1 again.
[14:41] <blake> phunyguy_work: sorry is in sda2
[14:41] <lolol> How can I "repair" gnome3 to it's default settings??
[14:41] <user__> user
[14:41] <user__> user
[14:42] <reisio> evelyette: check grep -i timeout /etc/default/grub /etc/grub.d/*
[14:42] <DJones> jankko: Sorry, got called away then, The instructions here should explain how to install dropbox http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=1873
[14:42] <s1> curt: if so , that will be messed up!
[14:42] <marko_> WOW
[14:43] <marko_> ThinkT510, removin python2.7 (the current version) removes every program!
[14:43] <marko_> what the f
[14:43] <marko_> why
[14:43] <evelyette> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/714233/
[14:43] <ric> hi
[14:43] <evelyette> the timeout is set in /etc/default/grub
[14:43] <stiefel> got a weird problem: it seems that name resolving does not work on my installation until I do an *ifdown eth0; ifup eth0*
[14:43] <dym> Hey - im having trouble installing grub onto 2 GPT Drives with at Raid 1 MD Raid - Keep getting this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `md0'. - any idea?
[14:43] <ric> I have installed python 2.7
[14:44] <th3pun15h3r> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[14:44] <ric> but I have some software that needs version 2.6
[14:44] <stiefel> the problem startet when I added another network device (which was later removed)
[14:44] <th3pun15h3r> can anyone explain what is going on?
[14:44] <ric> how can I remove the old version
[14:44] <VictorCL> hi :)
[14:44] <ThinkT510> marko_: i told you, 2.7 is required for compatibility reasons
[14:44] <VictorCL> how can I get colors to show on my terminal for files .. and vim .. etc
[14:44] <VictorCL> all is just white font
[14:44] <VictorCL> when I log in to this remote server trough ssh
[14:44] <VictorCL> local is fine
[14:45] <marko_> ThinkT510, so how do i use python3 in pycharm?:/
[14:45] <phunyguy_work> Victor, my guess is the remote server doesn't support it?
[14:45] <pr0d> th3pun15h3r: have u bought rage yet? Does it work well on ubuntu?
[14:45] <VictorCL> :/
[14:45] <ric> hello
[14:45] <ThinkT510> marko_: i've never used pycharm
[14:45] <ric> can any one tell me how I can remove python 2.7?
[14:45] <marko_> lol
[14:45] <phunyguy_work> VictorCL: what OS is the server?
[14:45] <marko_> that's awesome, ric don't do it
[14:45] <ThinkT510> ric: you shouldn't
[14:45] <marko_> i just did it
[14:45] <marko_> it's there for comatiblity issues
[14:45] <VictorCL> how can I know .. is there a command for this?
[14:45] <th3pun15h3r> msg:
[14:45] <marko_> you can use python3 and python2.7 and the same time
[14:46] <th3pun15h3r> i dont know how to private messsage pr0d
[14:46] <phunyguy_work> VictorCL: is it ubuntu based?
[14:46] <gness> sorry for distraction, but could you point me a way for newbie Ubuntu/Linux newcomers?
[14:46] <pr0d> th3pun15h3r: just say it here :D
[14:46] <VictorCL> I dont know is a web server
[14:46] <xeviox> is it possible to run the xubuntu cdrom from the iso file in ubuntu?
[14:46] <jrib> ric: why do you want to do that?
[14:46] <jeroth> gness: for generic advice or what specially?
[14:47] <th3pun15h3r> hehe ok i got rage for free from a retail site on windows runs great on 7 right now i cant even get quake 4 linux demo finally installed acant get it to run now
[14:47] <ric> Dependency is not satisfiable: python (<2.7)
[14:47] <ck> join #blender
[14:47] <s1> curt: try agian , and if you get stack at that state , switch ti a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and sudo lspci | grep VGA and see what graphic card you have , also try adding the other kernel option xforcevesa . perhaps you need to reinstall your graphic card driver.
[14:47] <jrib> VictorCL: how did you create the user account on the server?
[14:47] <ric> jrib, does this explain?
[14:47] <th3pun15h3r> id love to quit windows cold turkey but gaming is holding me back from doing so
[14:47] <jrib> ric: give context.
[14:47] <pr0d> th3pun15h3r: ok thanx for the info :)
[14:47] <VictorCL> I got it .. is a web server I use for sites we develop
[14:47] <VictorCL> pre-production server ^
[14:47] <th3pun15h3r> no prob
[14:47] <reisio> th3pun15h3r: don't worry, eventually you'll grow up
[14:47] <ric> trying to install zbar that is it
[14:47] <jrib> th3pun15h3r: so just use it for gaming
[14:47] <VictorCL> trough a web hosting company
[14:48] <ric> jrib, nothing else to it
[14:48] <gness> Idk. Kinda a place where all the newbies can learn the basics of Linux w/o distracting others :3
[14:48] <jrib> VictorCL: ok, but how did you create the account?  Did you not create it yourself?
[14:48] <th3pun15h3r> wow reisio...someone loves his highchair
[14:48] <VictorCL> no  not me
[14:48] <jrib> ric: well obviously you are trying to install something
[14:48] <curt> s1, Hey. so i have to thank you again for being so helpful. reinstalling my graphics card was one of the first things i tried so i dont think its that. im gonna go try again with xforcevesa
[14:48] <reisio> gness: ##linux
[14:48] <mbeierl> VictorCL: the remote shell does not know what the capabilities of your local terminal are because you are coming in through ssh.  so it doesn't turn on colours probably
[14:48] <jrib> VictorCL: what is the output (on the server) of « getent passwd $USER »
[14:48] <gness> tnx
[14:48] <ThinkT510> ric: sudo apt-get install python-zbar
[14:48] <reisio> th3pun15h3r: hasn't anything to do with where I'm sitting
[14:48] <pr0d> reisio: a lot of adults will disagree on your thoughts about gaming :)
[14:48] <ric> jrib, yes Zbar http://zbar.sourceforge.net/
[14:49] <reisio> a lot of adults have some growing up to do :p
[14:49] <pr0d> lol
[14:49] <reisio> eventually you'll find more interesting things to engage your mind than video games
[14:49] <VictorCL> root:bin:bash
[14:49] <jrib> ric: is zbar not in the repositories?
[14:49] <reisio> most people do around the same time they leave school
[14:49] <jrib> VictorCL: you are logging in as root?
[14:49] <reisio> but everyone is different
[14:49] <xeviox> is it possible to mount the xubuntu iso in ubuntu and run a graphical installer from it? Partitions are already set up ..
[14:49] <VictorCL> yes
[14:49] <reisio> xeviox: why...?
[14:49] <pr0d> indeed, wer not all misrable farts
[14:49] <curt> reisio, what makes video games less "interesting" than other forms of entertainment? books, film etc?
[14:49] <jrib> VictorCL: that's also some pretty strange output... did you copy everything?
[14:49] <reisio> xeviox: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[14:50] <VictorCL> no part of it ..
[14:50] <s1> curt: you're most welcome .. have you tried reinstaaling the driver from the recovery mode ! Alright then , try with xforcevesa otion .
[14:50] <VictorCL> ok taking too much time .. forget the colors :)
[14:50] <reisio> curt: I think you're unnecessarily constraining your category of what can be entertaining
[14:50] <ric> yes it is in the repo, the problem was that I could not find it
[14:50] <xeviox> reisio: I burned it on cdrom, but it always throws an i/o error and breaks install ..
[14:50] <jrib> VictorCL: in the future, it is better to just copy it verbatim.  Anyway, you can alias ls to 'ls --color=auto'
[14:50] <reisio> xeviox: if you want to switch from ordinary Ubuntu to Xubuntu, see the page I linked
[14:50] <VictorCL> :o green color
[14:50] <VictorCL> I feel like colorblind with this xD
[14:51] <curt> s1, im gonna try with xforcevesa, then maybe ill try something from recovery mode. i tried to boot from grub recovery mode though and it seems to me it had the same problem booting? whatever the case. im gonna try xforce vesa and if that doesnt work we will go from there. thanks
[14:51] <xeviox> reisio: I see, but I want to install xubuntu on a different partition
[14:51] <reisio> xeviox: why's that?
[14:51] <xeviox> reisio: is this possible from ubuntu (with mounting the .iso)
[14:51] <ric> ThinkT510, how do I now launch it?
[14:52] <xeviox> reisio: want to keep both versions
[14:52] <ric> once it is installed
[14:52] <reisio> xeviox: ...but why
[14:52] <ThinkT510> ric: never used it sorry
[14:52] <xeviox> reisio: because I need to check an application on both versions ..
[14:52] <reisio> xeviox: you could just install the Xubuntu packages in your existing install, and use either Xfce or GNOME/Unity
[14:52] <reisio> xeviox: what application?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> ric: try typing zbar in the terminal (or python-zbar)
[14:52] <xeviox> reisio: I know, but I want to setup a complete new xubuntu on a different partition
[14:53] <pr0d> Anyone here working on Xen?
[14:53] <reisio> xeviox: wouldn't inside a VM suffice?
[14:53] <jrib> pr0d: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:53] <xeviox> reisio: app from our company
[14:53] <ric> ThinkT510, none of those two command bring it up unlike in windows
[14:53] <ric> which makes me question whether I installed it right
[14:53] <xeviox> reisio: no, I want to have both installed on different partitions. There is a windows installer on the disk, isn't there something vor linux?
[14:54] <mbeierl> VictorCL: the TERM variable needs to be something like "xterm" for the colours to show up.  It could be that the ssh client does not support the colours, so it reports a basic terminal type, and the remote system suppresses the colour output
[14:54] <ric> I think that this confirms it is installed
[14:54] <ric> python-zbar is already the newest version.
[14:54] <VictorCL> mbeierl,  where is that variable?
[14:54] <mbeierl> echo $TERM from the shell
[14:55] <mbeierl> VictorCL: ^ it's a bash variable
[14:55] <ThinkT510> ric: you might want to install python-zbarpygtk too
[14:55] <VictorCL> i get xterm
[14:56] <mbeierl> VictorCL: hmm... then possibly something in the .bashrc or other login script that says if it's a remote login not to output color.  is it the "ls" command that's missing colours?
[14:56] <t2mahesh> hi, m new to ubuntu, can some one help me a bit. just trying to change the mouse pointer to DMZ (Black) but the behavior is different. Some where it's changing to black and some where it's using the default one.
[14:56] <blake> sorry got disconected
[14:56] <VictorCL> ls and vim and everything
[14:57] <blake> i was wondering how can i set in fstab my home partition to recover my files after reinstalling ubuntu
[14:57] <lucidguy> Transfer speed question:  ...  performing a backup on gigE connection and hitting 44MB/s which is approx 352mb/s ..  should I not see speeds closer to atleast 80MB/s?  Transfering between two systems that are doing nothing else and gigE switch has no other activity.
[14:57] <mbeierl> VictorCL: ok, I see.  lemme think for a moment what else controls the behaviour for colour and i'll let you know if I come up with anything.  While I'm meditating, what are you using for the ssh client, is it another unix xterm shell?
[14:58] <VictorCL> yes is a ubuntu terminal
[14:58] <ric> ThinkT510, fyi this is what you need
[14:58] <ric> sudo apt-get install zbar-tools
[14:58] <jon5000> Help.  My printer is not showing up and i am having trouble getting it to connect.  Using xubuntu 11.04
[14:58] <ric> thanks for your help that is great
[14:58] <ThinkT510> ric: glad you found it :)
[14:58] <VictorCL> mbeierl,  is ok no much of a problem , is not that important
[14:58] <DrGamut> So I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10, and when I start up the desktop in Ubuntu mode (not 2d), 8/9ths of my screen is blacked out, I can only view the top left corner. Ubuntu 2d mode works fine. I have a 560 Ti with the latest nvidia binary drivers.
[14:59] <mbeierl> VictorCL: i know... i'm just curious now myself :)
[14:59] <compdoc> lucidguy, you should, but the speed is limited to the drive speeds on each end
[14:59] <ech0> hi, i just upgraded my ubuntu version now i'm on 11.10 and my wifi keeps hanging every few minutes and i have to disable/enable the network adapter for it to start to work again. is there any fix for this issue? i've been researching on google and i've seen others with this issue but can't find a solution besides downgrading..
[14:59] <VictorCL> :)
[15:00] <lucidguy> compdoc: Understood, but even the slowest drives can go r/w faster then that.
[15:00] <compdoc> lucidguy, I get around 60 to 90MB/s consistantly. Maybe you have a nic issue
[15:00] <Mrono> What controls the screen fading out and locking?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ech0: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    and it may give clues
[15:01] <reisio> Mrono: look through prefs for stuff related to 'power'
[15:01] <lucidguy> compdoc: I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that the source system is an MD disk with LVM.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Mrono: that's usually compiz showing the app hanging
[15:01] <ech0> i don't understand how i can do two distro upgrades and this issue not be fixed in either one.
[15:01] <opticlove> i want to dual boot windows and ubuntu but i my disk is encrypted with truecrypt. i found grub2tc but i'm lost past this point
[15:01] <lucidguy> compdoc: Also performing the transfer via rsync
[15:01] <VictorCL> how can I make /usr/bin/php write to a log
[15:01] <Fecn> Hi folks - ruby-rack seems to be missing from Ubuntu 11.10 - How do I override dependencies to make other packages install?
[15:01] <compdoc> lucidguy, I dont like LVM, but I think its as fast as a non-lvm system
[15:01] <Mrono> not locking as in freezing, but locking as in enter password
[15:01] <VictorCL> wget I had -0 log.txt   .. but this wont work with /usr/bin/php
[15:02] <lucidguy> compdoc: think is rsync?
[15:02] <mbeierl> VictorCL: the other thing is, we don't know the OS type of the remote system (lsb_release -A should tell you), and from there it might be easier.  For example, when I log in to my Ubuntu box from a RedHat box, I don't get remote colours over ssh.  sometimes it's just a distro variant that kills it
[15:02] <Mrono> i'm having an issue with gnome 3.2 where it locks after 5min (how i set it up) but half the time the screen freezes and the unlock screen doesn't come back
[15:02] <compdoc> lucidguy, possibly. I use rsync a lot, but I tend not to watch the speeds.
[15:03] <VictorCL> lsb_release: error: no such option: -A
[15:03] <Pessimist> Which ubuntu is better for hd 5xxx cards?
[15:03] <reisio> opticlove: find howto
[15:03] <qin> VictorCL: -a
[15:03] <Pessimist> for general usage: programming, browsing, videos and music
[15:03] <VictorCL> Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
[15:03] <Mrono> i just uninstalled gnome-screensaver and that didn't help
[15:03] <pr0d> Pessimist: they'r all the same afaik
[15:03] <ech0> my laptop is a paper weight because people want to act like they updated something enough for a "distro release", without basic functionality your retarded gui adjustments to this operating system mean nothing.
[15:04] <reisio> Pessimist: all Linux distros support hardware the same
[15:04] <sattu94> Hi, i am trying to connect to a wireless network through command line(server), i have the drivers installed, and i can see the wlan0 interface using iwconfig. However i have no idea as to how to connect to my network. It has WPA2-PSK password authentication, i have no wlan0 in ifconfig, it is listed only when i do wlan0. Therefore i cannot use ifconfig wlan0 down.
[15:04] <curt> s1, hey man. so i did all of what you said. it went to a different screen and mounted some stuff and ran a chekc on my disk. i asked it to repair anyhting it seemed to go well. then when i rebooted after the fix and did the same procedure i got stuck again
[15:04] <Pessimist> reisio, pr0d I am talking about new libraries making fglrx slower (or opensource radeon drivers)?
[15:04] <pr0d> Pessimist: I use a £20 nvidia card for linux instead of my 6950. ATI drivers are horrendous for linux
[15:04] <curt> s1, hangs on ushare now but still says everything is ok
[15:04] <qin> VictorCL: You using Debian.
[15:04] <reisio> Pessimist: talking about what now?
[15:05] <verwilst> hi,if you open multiple documents for example
[15:05] <verwilst> unity 2D doesnt seem to show multiple arrows next to the icon in the dash
[15:05] <blake> how do i set  fstab for a separate home extension?
[15:05] <rickbee> hello. how do i use wpa_suplicant to connect to a WPA2 network I already have configured? :D
[15:05] <mbeierl> VictorCL: yep.  it's probably a difference in how the client system and the server system set up the colour schemes.  As for your php question, I'm not sure I understand the context of how you want php to log to a file.  is this an interactive command?
[15:05] <verwilst> so you can't easily select multiple instances
[15:05] <verwilst> any idea why and how to fix? :)
[15:05] <rickbee> i upgraded to 11.10 and lost my nm-applet but i kinda like not having it take up all that space.
[15:05] <pr0d> Pessimist: AMD have promised to make new drivers for 6000+ but no sign of them yet
[15:05] <Pessimist> pr0d: :/ does you nvidia card in linux support flash acceleration? reisio: About new libs making fglrx or opensource radeon drivers slower in 11.10
[15:06] <curt> is there a way to remove the current version and revert to an older version of ubuntu without losing my files?
[15:06] <reisio> blake: same way you set anything else, only with /home for the mount point
[15:06] <RaTTuS|BIG> blake /dev/sd[whatever] /home ext4 [or whatever] defaults 1 1
[15:06] <pr0d> Pessimist my cheap nvidia works 20X better than my 6K
[15:06] <VictorCL> I have  wget http://localhost/files.php -0 log.txt < --- writes ouput to log.txt    but     /usr/bin/php /var/www/files.php -0 log.txt     = wont log to log.txt
[15:06] <reisio> Pessimist: I'd have to look it up
[15:06] <compdoc> verwilst, mine does, and thats even when Im logged in with VNC
[15:06] <blake> ext4  defaults,noatime 0      1
[15:06] <pr0d> Using prop drivers everythin works amazingly well
[15:06] <VictorCL> this inside a sh file
[15:06] <verwilst> compdoc, hm, ok, maybe it's something else then
[15:06] <curt> s1 ?
[15:07] <Pessimist> pr0d which card are you using? :/ Maybe I'm gonna buy a similar one too
[15:07] <sattu94> Hi, i am trying to connect to a wireless network through command line(server), i have the drivers installed, and i can see the wlan0 interface using iwconfig. However i have no idea as to how to connect to my network. It has WPA2-PSK password authentication, i have no wlan0 in ifconfig, it is listed only when i do wlan0. Therefore i cannot use ifconfig wlan0 down.
[15:07] <pr0d> ill grab u a link now
[15:07] <verwilst> compdoc, i never had any issues with it, works fine here, but on my gf's laptop, she can only see 1 arrow next to the icon, even if she has multiple lowriter instances open for example
[15:07] <blake> RaTTuS|BIG: im using UUID is this teh same ?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> sattu94: install wicd then use wicd-curses for a nice text based GUI
[15:07] <verwilst> so she needs to minimize one or more windows to search for another
[15:07] <mbeierl> VictorCL: ok.  the -0 option for wget is specific to the wget command.  Generically any command that writes output to standard out can be redirected to a file instead like so: usr/bin/php /var/www/files.php > log.txt   Not sure if that is good enough for what you are trying to do though
[15:08] <reisio> Pessimist: not sure Adobe is supporting graphics accel for Linux
[15:08] <sattu94> ActionParsnip: i have wpa-supplicant, but i'll try with wicd.
[15:08] <reisio> but Flash works fine anyways
[15:08] <christian__> Hey girls and boys
[15:08] <VictorCL> ok will try , thankz
[15:08] <pr0d> http://www.ebuyer.com/240886-asus-geforce-g210-silent-512mb-ddr2-dvi-vga-hdmi-out-directx-10-1-en210-silent-di-512md2-lp- thats it but by a diff vendor
[15:08] <jrib> sattu94: why not just use network manager?
[15:08] <Pessimist> reisio I wouldn't say that if a pc with hd 5670 hogs 25% cpu on a single 360p video
[15:08] <curt> since my upgrade to 11.10 ive been having serious problems and i cant acces my files. is there a way to revert to an older version of ubuntu without losing my files?
[15:08] <sattu94> jrib: because, it's not there.
[15:09] <Ush4O> how do i disable the splashscreen on bootup to see the kernel messages?
[15:09] <reisio> Pessimist: hogs?
[15:09] <jrib> sattu94: not where?
[15:09] <mbeierl> VictorCL: also, ">" just sends stdout to the file.  "2> error.log" will send stderr to the file "error.log".  To send both out and err to a file using "> log.txt 2&>1"
[15:09] <reisio> opticlove: read the README file yet?
[15:09] <sattu94> jrib: server. No GUI.
[15:09] <christian__> is there anyone who have expirence with qemu-ifup / brctl ?? please reply to this if you have :D
[15:09] <Pessimist> reisio uses
[15:09] <reisio> opticlove: seems fairly straightforward
[15:09] <christian__> "can't add tap0 to bridge eth0: Operation not supported" is the error message
[15:09] <jrib> sattu94: network manager has cli interface
[15:09] <sattu94> jrib: it haz ?
[15:09] <gulzar> How to prevent kernel updates/upgrades with synaptic?
[15:09] <reisio> Pessimist: not a mathematician, but that leaves 75%, right?
[15:09] <wad> Every time I use sudo, I have to put in my password again. It's driving me nuts. I used visudo and added this line to my /etc/sudoers, but it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? wad ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[15:10] <VictorCL> ok great :=)
[15:10] <jrib> sattu94: nmcli
[15:10] <jon5000> Help.  My printer is not showing up and i am having trouble getting it to connect.  Using xubuntu 11.04
[15:10] <christian__> anyone know what it means ?
[15:10] <reisio> gulzar: check the box that says 'I want my system to be hacked'
[15:10] <sattu94> jrib: Does it come within an additional package?
[15:10] <Pessimist> reisio it takes 10% on windows
[15:10] <sattu94> jrib: i.e do i have to install it
[15:10] <Pessimist> on average
[15:10] <curt> s1, if your still around can you help me ?
[15:10] <sharpshooter> Hai all !! when ever i open anything via terminal (using gksuo command ) I am getting this error :(gksudo:5606): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory  of theme Azenis Icons has no size field
[15:10] <pr0d> Pessimist ill run a test for you now
[15:10] <sharpshooter> Segmentation fault
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[15:11] <jrib> sattu94: it's part of the network-manager package.  I don't know if that's installed by default on servers
[15:11] <christian__> :(
[15:11] <christian__> i need help
[15:11] <reisio> Pessimist: yeah, but IME Windows takes 99% of my concentration not to murder it
[15:11] <sattu94> jrib: it's not.
[15:11] <reisio> so it's a fair trade, particularly for a tech that's not long for this world
[15:11] <axisys> I have a link like this \\path\to\a\file in my doc. when I touch it, it says Ctrl-click to open hyperlink smb://path/to/a/file .. I did ctrl-click and it opens a browser .. how do I open this page with mouse click?
[15:12] <pr0d> Pessimist: With prop nvidia drivers flash still uses my cpu
[15:12] <sharpshooter> (gksudo:5606): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory  of theme Azenis Icons has no size field
[15:12] <sharpshooter> Segmentation fault
[15:12] <Pessimist> how much? and what's your cpu?
[15:13] <pr0d> Pessimist: phenomII tri core approx 25%
[15:13] <sharpshooter> Hai all !! when ever i open anything via terminal (using gksuo command ) I am getting this error gksudo:5606): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory  of theme Azenis Icons has no size field
[15:13] <sharpshooter> Segmentation fault
[15:13] <curt> my boot is hanging and ive tried setting kernel options to nomodset and xforcevesa, removing quiet splash. can anyone help with what i could do next
[15:13] <pr0d> its uses all 3 cores
[15:13] <Pessimist> gotta search for a card, that supports flash acceleration on linux
[15:13] <tester123> Since I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 my system now uses swap for some reason when it still has a lot of ram left over?  The use of the swap file has made my system seem more choppy at times now, has anyone else seen this issue?
[15:14] <sharpshooter> Hai all !! when ever i open anything via terminal (using gksuo command ) I am getting this error gksudo:5606): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory  of theme Azenis Icons has no size field
[15:14] <sharpshooter> Segmentation fault
[15:14] <avn-matt> hi
[15:14] <reisio> Pessimist: if you playback the video directly via a browser plugin it should be accelerated easily
[15:15] <pr0d> Pessimist: ATI and Nvidia have only just implemented it to windows, and IMO AMD are slackers regarding linux
[15:15] <mbeierl> christian__: sorry, not familiar at all with qemu, but from the sounds of it, you're trying to bridge eth0 and tap0, which doesn't make sense.  Usually tap0 is a virtual device for VPN or other encapsulated protocols, where eth0 is a physical link, so no, they should not be bridge-able (is that even a word?)
[15:16] <curt> can nyone help me with a boot hang issue
[15:16] <christian__> :( thtas strange.. i am using a ready to work script..
[15:16] <jon5000> Help.  My printer is not showing up and i am having trouble getting it to connect.  Using xubuntu 11.04
[15:16] <christian__> dont know why it wants to bridge eht0 with tap0
[15:16] <mbeierl> christian__: sorry.  gotta go afk for a bit.  i'll ping you when i'm back.
[15:17] <christian__> ok :) thx anyway
[15:17] <Pessimist> pr0d: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=adobe_linux_vdpau&num=1
[15:17] <sharpshooter> need help  !!! :(
[15:17] <Pessimist> pr0d: what flash version do you have?
[15:17] <genupulas> i have Ubuntu 11.10 iso file , how can i upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 .i know how to do from CD but now its not possible
[15:17] <DrGamut> I have a new install of Ubuntu 11.10, and when I start it up in regular Unity mode I get this: http://i.imgur.com/R9sK5.png
[15:17] <DrGamut> I have the latest nvidia binary drivers
[15:17] <DrGamut> what could cause this
[15:17] <DrGamut> Unity 2d works fine
[15:18] <Pessimist> I think I will have ubuntu without flash + plugins that replace youtube videos with mplayer windows.. :/
[15:19] <reisio> Pessimist: that'd outperform it even if the Flash _were_ accelerated
[15:19] <chambo> join #opencv
[15:19] <reisio> so not sure what you're :/-ing about
[15:19] <chambo> oops :P
[15:19] <reisio> Flash is awful, say est la veee
[15:19] <Pessimist> reisio does the video/audio quality suffer because of that?
[15:19] <pr0d> Pessimist: no idea wat version im runnin, never really looked into it aslong as it works
[15:19] <reisio> Pessimist: video is video
[15:20] <reisio> Pessimist: mplayer is better at playing it than Flash ever will be
[15:20] <pr0d> Pessimist, drop me a link if u get this workin :)
[15:20] <rickbee> I'm sorry guys, what is the easiest way to connect to a network 'manually'? it's in my "
[15:20] <rickbee> network list
[15:21] <reisio> rickbee: an IRC network?
[15:21] <s1> curt: whats the ushare error ! And have you checked what GPU on the machine !
[15:21] <pr0d> Pessimist: but ye unfortunately AMD cards are crap on linux :) and thats coming from a long time fan
[15:22] <dimiandre> i all :) i have a small problem, when i open Terminal the icon don't appear on the programs bar and every time i must minimize all windows for reopen terminal : S it's normal ?
[15:23] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, when I suspend with my laptop, the screen stays black for a while before the screen lock prompts me for the password and I lose connection to the 'net each and every time. This hasn't happened before the last update to 11.04 I did. Any way to check what was updated?
[15:24] <scarleo> rickbee: click the network symbol and then click your network and enter credentials, that's the easiest way
[15:25] <Pessimist> pr0d I know. With AMD you get cheaper and more powerful cards but awful drivers, with nvidia you get less powerful cards (they are getting cheaper..) and awesome drivers
[15:25] <VictorCL> how can I make crontab open in vim ?
[15:25] <xxiao> need know which _uninstalled_ package contains a file, e.g. xslt-config, is there a cmd to do that(not using ubuntu's www interface)
[15:26] <horiddr> what's a good programm to download sites for offline usage and also allows me to see what i am doing?
[15:26] <curt> hey guys, i have ubuntu running on a disk that wont boot and i need to recover some important files from it. whats the best way to go about this?
[15:26] <reisio> VictorCL: export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim
[15:26] <ikonia> curt: use a CD
[15:26] <xxiao> dpkg -S only search for installed packages?
[15:26] <reisio> horiddr: httrack
[15:26] <ikonia> curt: boot from the CD and attempt to mount the disk
[15:26] <reisio> horiddr: see what you're doing?
[15:26] <benoliver999> curt: Live disk
[15:26] <VictorCL> reisio,  where do I write that?
[15:26] <curt> ok thanks ikonia
[15:26] <ScatterBrain> I realize this isn't a major issue, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Expose back in 11.10?  I'm not talking about Expo with just a block of the desktops, I'm talking Expose with a reflection and all.
[15:26] <mbeierl> christian__: back, but ya, I can't think of why it's trying to do that.  not familiar with qemu at all
[15:26] <reisio> VictorCL: in a term to use temporarily, or in ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile, etc.
[15:27] <mbeierl> VictorCL: it's another one of those bash environment variables :)
[15:27] <VictorCL> ok
[15:27] <horiddr> in freenode they told me to use wget. but i don't understand what i do in the termial. so i must have to see some buttons.
[15:27] <christian__> mbeierl: i changed the qemu-ifup script
[15:27] <xxiao> simiarly, 'dpkg -L' only works for installed packages, is there a way for me to do similar thing for uninstalled packages?
[15:27] <reisio> horiddr: httrack http://some/frikkin/website/path
[15:27] <reisio> horiddr: is that so hard?
[15:27] <Pici> xxiao: if you install apt-file, you can use that.
[15:27] <christian__> now the error disappeared.. and a new one came :D but thats another story
[15:28] <xxiao> Pici: thanks. let me try
[15:28] <reisio> horiddr: there's an extension frontend for it for Firefox called spiderzilla, not sure what the compatibility is like
[15:28] <mbeierl> christian__: oh, joy :)
[15:28] <Arney> This causes an endless loop??? sdir=dirname $0 ; cd ${sdir}/mu-conference
[15:28] <christian__> i got to set up anubis on my pc ^^ its a pain in the ass :D
[15:28] <reisio> horiddr: there's a win32 GUI frontend, might work fine via Wine
[15:28] <yaz> hi i was wondering can some1 help me with ubuntu and laptop battery??
[15:28] <mbeierl> CharminTheMoose: just saying... you techincally should lose any active connections when you suspend.  the computer is, after all, basically powered down
[15:29] <xxiao> Pici: seems right, apt-file update is downloading all the package info
[15:29] <reisio> horiddr: oh nevermind it comes with a webUI that will work as a GUI
[15:29] <xxiao> quite large though
[15:29] <toumbo> Can anyone tell me which are the Qt 4 development libraries ?
[15:29] <mbeierl> CharminTheMoose: as for the prompt for password, that is configurable somewhere.  check under Power Management?
[15:30] <mbeierl> toumbo: apt-get install libqt4-dev, perhaps?
[15:31] <toumbo> Οκ I'll try it!Thanks!
[15:31] <CharminTheMoose> Hehe, good point there mbeierl.
[15:31] <VictorCL> on the cronfile    5 * * * * *  /var/www/cron/file.sh    <-- do I have to put  sh in front ?  like -->  5 * * * * * sh /var/www/cron/file.sh
[15:32] <mbeierl> CharminTheMoose: although, like you said, something did change...
[15:32] <ikonia> VictorCL: not if the file is executable
[15:32] <VictorCL> ok
[15:32] <_joey> why simple features  mac os x or ms windows work and on linux always something is broken
[15:32] <CharminTheMoose> mbeierl, as for the password prompt, like, the screen will remain black, no mouse pointer or anything and then after a few seconds, the mouse pointer and prompt will appear. Clicking keys/mouse buttons doesn't 'speed' up the appearence.
[15:32] <_joey> i am upgrading the system and it failed for 5th time
[15:33] <ikonia> _joey: can you explain the failure/issue
[15:33] <reisio> _joey: it's your imagination
[15:33] <jaequery> hi guys, where does ubuntu store it's network scripts? like the eth0
[15:33] <reisio> because with Windows and Mac OS you spend 6 months saving to pay for the upgrade and by then you don't care if it works or not
[15:33] <ikonia> jaequery: what do you mean by network scripts as it's quite a complex process
[15:33] <reisio> jaequery: its*, in /etc/
[15:33] <_joey> it starts with checking and prompting if I want to proceed etc
[15:34] <ikonia> reisio: any chance you keep your nonsense out of the channels
[15:34] <_joey> and then downloaded all packages.
[15:34] <jaequery> so where in /etc
[15:34] <reisio> ikonia: ?
[15:34] <_joey> then it fails to download a single file
[15:34] <jaequery> in redhat, they are usually in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
[15:34] <ikonia> jaequery: it depends what you're actually after, are you talking about the config files or the files that actually bring the interface up
[15:34] <mbeierl> CharminTheMoose: what version?  and you can check /var/log/apt/history or /var/log/aptitude to see what was changed recently
[15:34] <jaequery> the interfaces, like eth0
[15:34] <Sentynel> hi guys, just updated to 11.10 and the shutdown process is hanging. x quits, I get the splash screen, then that vanishes, something is displayed on the console but then that clears before I can read it. if I switch to tty1 the stopping processes messages are there as usual. ttys don't respond to the keyboard, so I can't log in and check top/etc. can't see anything useful in dmesg/etc, but I don't necessarily know what I'm looking for. any ideas?
[15:34] <_joey> stating there is internet connection issue, well, I am chatting with you using the very system i am trying to upgrade
[15:34] <reisio> jaequery: /etc/network/interfaces
[15:34] <SunTsu> finally, I solved my cryptroot problem. For some reason there was a "lvm=system" in /etc/crypttab 's options. The cryptroot script just copied that over to conf/conf.d/cryptroot - resulting in "lvm=system-root,lvm=system" and because of this initramfs tried to mount /dev/mapper/system instead of /dev/mapper/system-root
[15:34] <ikonia> jaequery: do you want to configure it, or do you wnat to bring the interface up
[15:35] <WormDrink> does ubuntu have USB 3 support ?
[15:35] <reisio> ikonia: just the insult, then?
[15:35] <ikonia> jaequery: what file in redhat do you want to know the ubuntu version of
[15:35] <ikonia> reisio: no, just trying to resolve some peoples issues first, your nonsense about spending 6 months paying for support etc etc.
[15:35] <jaequery> i just want to modify my ip
[15:35] <reisio> meanwhile I've already given him the file
[15:36] <ikonia> reisio: no, you've not, you rushed in without finding the requirements
[15:36] <ikonia> jaequery: are you using a desktop ?
[15:36] <reisio> uhuh, we'll see
[15:36] <jaequery> no, server
[15:36] <SunTsu> that was a PITA to debug
[15:36] <Dackka> o
[15:36] <ikonia> jaequery: ok, so as reisio said the config file is in /etc/network/interfaces,
[15:36]  * reisio doesn't wait for an apology
[15:36] <gnx__> hi
[15:37] <reisio> hi gnx__
[15:37] <ikonia> reisio: you won't get one as providing the right answer doesn't mean you didn't rush in without getting the requirements
[15:37] <gnx__> i need help
[15:37] <reisio> ikonia: doesn't it?
[15:37] <ikonia> reisio: no
[15:37] <reisio> maybe I'm just more perceptive than you
[15:37] <yaz> how can i improve my battery life on ubuntu??
[15:37] <LjL> please drop this, it's getting annoying
[15:37] <reisio> I guess that'd be impossible, though
[15:37] <pr0d> reisio has a biger chip on his shoulder
[15:37] <reisio> LjL: happily
[15:37] <pr0d> bigger*
[15:38] <reisio> pr0d: easier to say when nobody's insulting you
[15:38] <jimmy8888> does xfce use the same 'startup applications' as unity/unity2D ?
[15:38] <pr0d> you are asking for it with your stabs at people
[15:38] <mbeierl> yaz: I don't know if this is officially supported or not, but I used "jupiter" on my laptop, and it took me from 2h to about 4h battery life on 10.04.  getting the url now...
[15:38] <reisio> jimmy8888: it has its own system
[15:38] <reisio> pr0d: what stabs at people?
[15:38] <SunTsu> gnx__: try to state your problem then, nobody will come to the rescue without knowing what your problem actually is
[15:38] <yaz> mbeier: thnx
[15:38] <CharminTheMoose> mbeierl, Am running 11.04. As an aside, I installed xlockmore and was launched that on my laptop, I got a similar kinda thing happen when I let the laptop suspend and then tried to get it out of suspending overnight, the screen started flashing between black and the xlockmore password prompt.. Could be similar issue with my hardware here.
[15:39] <pr0d> Your insults at people who come here for help
[15:39] <gnx__> i have problems whith the configure of apache 2 .. i  there a way to damage repair
[15:39] <reisio> pr0d: where?
[15:39] <reisio> gnx__: what's the problem
[15:39] <pr0d> glad people like you didnt help me when i first started to use linux
[15:39] <gnx__> colombia
[15:39] <reisio> pr0d: so can't actually cite one, then
[15:39] <jimmy8888> reisio: thats what i thought, but when i logged into an xfce environment it seemed to load all the same startup apps as i had configured in unity (in fact it launched conky twice - which i am in the process of troubleshooting)
[15:39] <reisio> gnx__: that's an interesting problem
[15:39] <xxiao> Pici: that works, thanks!
[15:39] <jrib> gnx__: would you prefer help in spanish?
[15:39] <_joey> http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3979/screenshotxa.png
[15:40] <reisio> jimmy8888: sounds like you might have more than just Xfce's stuff running, then
[15:40] <_joey> here is the screenshot
[15:40] <danielmierzwinsk> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a USB on my Mac and could need some help. Sometimes the USB doesn't show and other times when it does (Labelled Windows) it shows some icons in the bottom and then goes into black screen. Anyone who can help me?
[15:40] <_joey> it's rediculous
[15:40] <lucidguy> My Ubuntu 10.04 server died on me after a power drop.  Via rescueCD I can get to my data but my md environment is all messed, for example I see md125 and md125.  System starts up odd also, rescue grub prompt.  Would you guys try and hack at this and try to bring up original os environment or backup data and re-install?
[15:40] <mbeierl> yaz: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/jupiter-ubuntu-ppa-hardware-and-power.html
[15:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> whats the easiest way of having a few things start off when you login
[15:40] <ThisDarkTao> Hi, can anyone tell me about Bash commands in the terminal?
[15:40] <jrib> !terminal | ThisDarkTao
[15:40] <reisio> RaTTuS|BIG: with Unity?
[15:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes
[15:41] <SunTsu> anybody know where libchipcardd went?
[15:41] <_joey> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/acroread/acroread_9.4.2.0-0oneiric3_amd64.deb Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.33 80]
[15:41] <reisio> RaTTuS|BIG: what version of Ubuntu?
[15:41] <ding> Hi all, I'm trying to upgrade a jaunty machine to karmic, but ran into some EOL issues like I can't install python2.6 because of libreadline6, which is "not installable". Any advice on how to proceed so that I can install update-manager-core ?
[15:41] <RaTTuS|BIG> 11.11
[15:41] <_joey> that's the message
[15:41] <ThisDarkTao> jrib, I'd like to know how to exit a program thats currently running in the terminal
[15:41] <jimmy8888> reisio: ahh ok, so reisio will show all the indicators/tray applets for things it sees as already running? it does not necessarily explicitly start them?
[15:41] <dnlmzw> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a USB on my Mac and could need some help. Sometimes the USB doesn't show and other times when it does (Labelled Windows) it shows some icons in the bottom and then goes into black screen. Anyone who can help me?
[15:41] <mbeierl> yaz: or their launchpad site: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/jupiter
[15:41] <reisio> _joey: did you try it again?
[15:41] <jrib> ThisDarkTao: what program?
[15:41] <_joey> 5 times I tried
[15:41] <jrib> !upgrade | ding
[15:41] <_joey> or maybe more
[15:42] <reisio> jimmy8888: right by default
[15:42] <ThisDarkTao> jrib, any program, say a program that takes text input, how can I cancel whats currently running and go back to a standard prompt?
[15:42] <jrib> ding: that wiki page should point you to special repositories for eol releases
[15:42] <reisio> jimmy8888: you can add more in ~/.config/autostart/
[15:42] <edbian> ThisDarkTao: ctrl + C
[15:42] <ikonia> _joey: there doesn't appear to be a repo hosted onthat IP
[15:42] <jrib> ThisDarkTao: usually ctrl-c
[15:42] <reisio> jimmy8888: or with the GUI you're apparently looking at already
[15:42] <ThisDarkTao> jrib, okay thanks I'll try that now
[15:42] <ding> jrib: Thanks. Looking now.
[15:42] <TheWarden> Hi, I've configured my Remote Desktop Preferences with the following checked, "Allow others users to view my desktop", "Allow other users to control my desktop", "Require the user to enter a password" and "Configure network to automatically accept connections".
[15:42] <jrib> ThisDarkTao: ctrl-c will send SIGINT to the program
[15:43] <TheWarden> However it doesn't appear to work after a reboot. I have to open up "Remote Desktop Preferences" dialog close it and then VNC works again.
[15:43] <ThisDarkTao> jrib, thanks that does the trick, I'm testing a simple java program to learn the language and got annoyed at having to close my terminal every time!
[15:43] <VictorCL> where is syslog.conf in ubuntu?
[15:43] <jon5000> Help.  My printer is not showing up and i am having trouble getting it to connect.  Using xubuntu 11.04
[15:43] <jimmy8888> reisio: ahh ok so it does use the same startup items directory as unity then (.config/autostart/) ?
[15:43] <TheWarden> How can I fix this??
[15:43] <jrib> VictorCL: /etc/rsyslog.conf
[15:44] <reisio> jimmy8888: I haven't used Unity much, but all that ~/.config/ is standardized by freedesktop, AFAIK, so probably
[15:44] <reisio> jon5000: what make/model?
[15:44] <VictorCL> jrib is not here I al read looked
[15:44] <_joey> ikonia: in which file do I manually disable acroread download?
[15:44] <_joey> it fails on acroread
[15:44] <jimmy8888> reisio: right that clears some things up. bless those standards!
[15:44] <jrib> VictorCL: what version of ubuntu?
[15:44] <VictorCL> 11
[15:44] <reisio> jimmy8888: for the most part, yeah :D
[15:45] <jrib> VictorCL: there is no such thing.  11.04 or 11.10?
[15:45] <ikonia> _joey: you can't, you need to get it
[15:45] <VictorCL> 11.04
[15:45] <_joey> a acroread?
[15:45] <VictorCL> there is rsyslog.conf
[15:45] <jimmy8888> reisio: hahah awesome. thanks for your help!
[15:45] <_joey> there is a list of archives in /etc somewhere
[15:45] <jrib> VictorCL: what is the ouput of « apt-cache policy rsyslog »
[15:45] <ikonia> _joey: no - you need to get it
[15:45] <greg3000> hi, I need to reinstall a package using apt-get but I can't use 'remove' because it would uninstall too many other programs.  would anyone clue me in on this mystery for me? :)
[15:45] <jrib> VictorCL: that's what I told you...
[15:45] <VictorCL> xD
[15:45] <mbeierl> lucidguy: I'd back it all up first, then give a shot at trying to recover.  I've actually had good luck at running 11.04 re-install over 11.04 after I corrupted my system once
[15:45] <_joey> 20 years and they still can't fix a bloody install on linux
[15:45] <VictorCL> ok my fault
[15:46] <jrib> VictorCL: :)
[15:46] <ikonia> _joey: did that package come from a 3rd party repo ?
[15:46] <VictorCL> was looking for syslog.conf
[15:46] <reisio> greg3000: probably want to use dpkg itself, then
[15:46] <lucidguy> mbeierl: You can do this with the liveCD?
[15:46] <jrib> VictorCL: ubuntu uses rsyslog
[15:46] <reisio> greg3000: but what makes you think you should reinstall it?
[15:46] <VictorCL> what does the "r" stands for?
[15:46] <greg3000> reisio: thanks, like dpkg -u ?
[15:47] <bobweavertonight> ok guys I am about to snap my isp keeps dropping in and out  I am watching my gateway and also wireshark no bad packets so far  what could be causing this ?
[15:47] <TheWarden> the systems I've tested this scenario on is on Ubuntu v10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx
[15:47] <jon5000> reisio, hp deskjet f4480 (all in one)
[15:47] <greg3000> reisio: I remember building and installing one copy on my PC, but I want to make sure the copy from the repositories is running
[15:47] <jrib> !info rsyslog | VictorCL
[15:47] <mbeierl> lucidguy: yes.  11.04.  I don't know if 10.10 or earlier actually have the 're-install' option, but i used 11.04 livecd and went into install, and it basically did a recover of the installed os.  i had to re-install some packages after, but it was pretty good at getting me 90% of the way back to operational in a very short time
[15:47] <reisio> VictorCL: authored by Rainer Gerhards
[15:48] <dnlmzw> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a USB on my Mac and could need some help. Sometimes the USB doesn't show and other times when it does (Labelled Windows) it shows some icons in the bottom and then goes into black screen. Anyone who can help me?
[15:48] <trijntje> Hi all, I want to change virtual desktop using mouse buttons. Where can I set this?
[15:48] <VictorCL> I've learn so much today of linux than the whole year xD
[15:48] <mbeierl> lucidguy: but, again, i can't stress enough - backup anything important first, just in case
[15:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> 11.10 that was ..... reisio
[15:48] <VictorCL> trying to set up this cronjob
[15:48] <darshan> i am switch to some user opensrf  and want to perform step as:- ./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf ,but its giving me error at one place ,and dat is "opening dependency file  .deps/libopensrf_la-osrf_message.Tpo :permission denied".leaving directory /home/opensrf/opensrf-2.0.1/src/libopensrf.
[15:48] <VictorCL> Ȯ.Ȯ
[15:48] <reisio> RaTTuS|BIG: you wanted to know about auto starting, was it?
[15:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes
[15:49] <reisio> RaTTuS|BIG: check out /etc/xdg/autostart
[15:49] <MatthiasHamburg> Hey guys, my ubuntu 11.04 takes a few seconds more for boot since I installed some hardware and software services. Is it possible to turn off graphical boot so that I can see the text boot messages?
[15:49] <mbeierl> VictorCL: hang around here often?  it's a good place to get a lot of info quickly on the right day :)
[15:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> kk - will do thanks
[15:50] <VictorCL> is faster to ask here :) and learn from what others ask
[15:50] <VictorCL> and have a chance to chat while  iam working .. xD
[15:51] <_joey> what's a nice gui mail reader other than evolution?
[15:51] <mbeierl> VictorCL: true, true.  But for your remote system where it's Debian, not ubuntu based, you need to take some answers and run independantly with them because there /are/ differences in places :(
[15:51] <mbeierl> _joey: I find Thunderbird to be an excellent alternative
[15:52] <mbeierl> _joey: but that's just me and there are many answers to that question...
[15:52] <jankko> ubuntu from usb is most slow than another instalation. that blackscreen maybe because it charger
[15:52] <VictorCL> yes :)
[15:52] <trijntje> MatthiasHamburg: sure, edit /etc/defaults/grub
[15:52] <trijntje> then change the line with "quiet splash" to "verbose"
[15:53] <trijntje> then run sudo update-grub
[15:54] <_joey> is update-manager a reliable application to upgrade the system?
[15:54] <TheWarden> ahh I found the solution, Remote Desktop Server was not starting up at bootup. So I went to System->Preferences->Startup Applications and make sure Remote Desktop is enabled.
[15:54] <_joey> I somehow doubt it
[15:54] <Pici> _joey: Why wouldn't it be?
[15:54] <Gentoo64> _joey: its the same as apt-get upgrade
[15:54] <Gentoo64> with a gui
[15:54] <_joey> obviously it's not
[15:55] <_joey> it's a b0rked front-end
[15:55] <sattu94> jrib: installing network-manager also seems to pull in some gnome stuff..like keyring, etc..
[15:55] <reisio> well frontends obscure information
[15:55] <Gentoo64> _joey: how?
[15:55] <jrib> sattu94: I see.  Maybe wicd will be lighter then
[15:55] <trijntje> Gentoo64: no exactly, apt-get upgrade wont look for new dependency's in upgraded packages
[15:55] <sattu94> jrib: yes, but wicd doesnt seem to working,
[15:55] <_joey> it's been reported by thousands of people on various forums that it often fails to update/upgrade the system
[15:56] <_joey> that's how
[15:56] <jrib> sattu94: :)
[15:56] <mbeierl> _joey: sorry, but if you've already formed an opinion, why do you ask?
[15:56] <Gentoo64> alright
[15:56] <Pici> _joey: Is there a bug/bugs logged for that?  If not, theres not much that we can do to fix that.
[15:56] <_joey> it's not an opinion, it's a statement of fact which I just dicsovered searching for the solution on google
[15:57] <_joey> Pici: the tool is a bug
[15:57] <Gentoo64> _joey: you can always use the terminal way..
[15:57] <Gentoo64> _joey: but a lot of people use the gui without problems
[15:57] <iceflatline> terminal ftw
[15:58] <Pici> _joey: If you're not here to ask a question about the software, then this discussion is offtopic for this channel.
[15:58] <Ethine> Hi! I was wonderin' if somebody could help me with a kinda silly problem. My workspace switcher is still working, but it's all ugly all the sudden, and it no longer loops. Did I accidentally a setting somewhere?
[15:59] <sattu94> jrib: i have the daemon running, and then ran wicd-curses, it runs for sometime and then gives some weird error..
[15:59] <anirath> Ethine: try using compizconfig
[15:59] <_joey> Gentoo64: and how do I upgrade the distribution in terminal?
[15:59] <MatthiasHamburg> trijntje: thank you, got more output now. but the gdm comes up immediately so I can't see anything
[15:59] <sattu94> jrib: when i try to connect.
[15:59] <jrib> sattu94: hmm, what error?
[15:59] <Gentoo64> _joey: i think its apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <Polah> _joey: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:59] <trijntje> MatthiasHamburg: i'm sure those messages are logged somewhere, so you can always read them back later
[15:59] <Gentoo64> my bad
[16:00] <CC666> whois nickserv
[16:00] <devlin> Does anyone know what to do with blackscreens caused by ATI Radeon 6xxx for my laptop? Installed 11.10 and all I can do is a tty login.
[16:01] <CharminTheMoose> I'm 11.04. I installed xlockmore and launched that on my laptop, the screen started flashing between black and the xlockmore password prompt when I tried to go from the suspended state to xlockmore, but eventually it let me type my password in. Now this is happening with gnome's xlock. :/
[16:01] <anirath> CC666: not a real person man
[16:01] <CharminTheMoose> *I'm running 11.04
[16:02] <VictorCL> I think cron is not working :/
[16:02] <moonunitzappa> hello
[16:02] <Polah> VictorCL, what line are you using?
[16:02] <VictorCL> I wrote a bad path to check .. but it wont generate a /var/log/cron.log
[16:03] <moonunitzappa> Im trying to get rid of UNITY in 11.10  anyway i can do that with out a new OS
[16:03] <VictorCL> 1 * * * *  /var/ww/vhosts/mydomain.com/subdomains/solventis/httpdocs/cron/sendreminder.sh
[16:03] <obviousTroll> Hi all. I keep getting a graphics error. (X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)). Running 11.10 with intel chip
[16:03] <moonunitzappa> installed gnome-shell and gnome-panel but dont know how to use them
[16:03] <chris122380> Trying to create helloworld.c in eclipse but dosen't seem to build the binary dosn't let me run it any ideas?
[16:03] <pr0d> Anyone have any idea where xen xmdomain.cfg's are stored on ubuntu, they should be in /etc/xen but things dont seem to be that way on ubuntu
[16:04] <_joey> Polah: for some reason it fails on this line: http://archive.canonical.com/ oneiric/partner acroread amd64 9.4.2.0-0oneiric3
[16:04] <reisio> moonunitzappa: log out to the login window
[16:04] <ck> Blender quit working for me after the update last night
[16:04] <reisio> moonunitzappa: click the cog next to your name input
[16:04] <sattu94> jrib: first it spews a lot of output, then theres something about no ipv6 routers being present, then ndiswrapper saying "invalid cmd 12", and finally it stops after saying that the remote host did not respond, (or something like that..)..and ofcourse the curses interface is then all messed up and i am back at the prompt..
[16:04] <reisio> moonunitzappa: you might want gnome-session-fallback, too
[16:04] <mbeierl> VictorCL: there should be a /var/log/syslog entry about your cron job attempt...
[16:04] <Mrono> i'm having an issue with gnome 3.2 where it locks after 5min (how i set it up) but half the time the screen freezes and the unlock screen doesn't come back
[16:05] <sattu94> jrib: after that apt-get, wicd or anything else wont start..
[16:05] <obviousTroll> Hi all. I keep getting a graphics error. Can anyone help?
[16:05] <trijntje> how can I tell which session I'm using, unity or unity2d?
[16:05] <trijntje> obviousTroll: nice name, whats the error?
[16:05] <_joey> I can open the url link in the browser
[16:05] <_joey> but can't access it via upgrade on 80 port
[16:05] <obviousTroll> trinjntje: X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[16:05] <under> Hi. I need a dectate software for ubuntu. What can I choose?
[16:06] <sattu94> jrib: and doing ctrl+alt+del, show the message and all, but it actually never restarts the machine, i have to then do a hard reboot.
[16:06] <reisio> under: dictation?
[16:06] <obviousTroll> trinjnte: I can pastebin the rest if needed
[16:06] <under> reisio: yes
[16:06] <jrib> sattu94: try typing "reset" blindly and hitting enter when that happens
[16:07] <reisio> under: should be a sound recorder preinstalled, is that not enough?
[16:07] <under> reisio: I mean, I speak ubuntu writes
[16:08] <reisio> under: ah, speech to text
[16:08] <under> yes
[16:08] <VictorCL> yeah there is so much stuff
[16:08] <VictorCL> can you somehow filter logs file?
[16:08] <Gentoo64> VictorCL: what are you trying to do
[16:08] <Gentoo64> grep?
[16:08] <mbeierl> VictorCL: sorry - is this about the cron entry?  try "grep CRON /var/log/syslog"
[16:08] <VictorCL> ok
[16:09] <_joey> it's getting ridiculous
[16:09] <_joey> I am going to get rid of the buggy OS once and for all
[16:10] <mbeierl> _joey: good luck.
[16:10] <jrib> _joey: this channel is dedicated to support.  Please try to keep the conversation related to either asking or answering a support question.  What is your issue?
[16:10] <reisio> under: there's sphinx from CMU, my understanding is that it's not yet as well developed as Dragon NaturallySpeaking, though (which can run via Wine)
[16:10] <sattu94> jrib: reset just refreshes the screen? the curses UI is gone..
[16:10] <_joey> jrib: I asked the question earlier
[16:10] <Gentoo64> _joey: what was you trying to do, update?
[16:10] <sattu94> jrib: and ssh is dead too.
[16:10] <jrib> _joey: this is not relevant
[16:10] <Polah> _joey: Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean the system is buggy. There is a myriad of possible reasons as to why something doesn't work, one of the somewhat less likely ones being "The entire system in general just doesn't work properly". If you don't want to use Ubuntu, use another system and don't complain about it here.
[16:10] <_joey> in fact, about 3-4 times I asked
[16:10] <under> reisio: also the last one version? 11?
[16:10] <MatthiasHamburg> trijntje: thank you! I think I got what I want. Although the log runs through so fast that you can't read it, I can see that just takes some time to boot. No specific line where the boot stops for some seconds, as I expected
[16:10] <jrib> sattu94: I have to go... no real ideas on your issue
[16:11] <sattu94> jrib: sure.
[16:11] <sattu94> jrib: bye.
[16:11] <under> reisio: 10, sorry
[16:11] <reisio> under: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2077
[16:12] <obviousTroll> Hi all. Having X issutes. Can anyone help?? --> Error: http://pastebin.com/4rgR5FLG
[16:12] <_joey> apt-get update
[16:12] <_joey> is all fine
[16:12] <_joey> then apt-get upgrade
[16:12] <lunitik> sattu94: I have recently joined and didn't see your question, can you restate so I can see it?
[16:12] <_joey> : Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:12] <mbeierl> _joey: I understand you are frustrated, but remember we're all volunteers here.  no one is being paid to help.  now, you're trying to upgrade from the terminal and it appears to fail on upgrading acroread from the canonical parners sight.  do you have another terminal open while doing the update?  get you do a netstat -napt and see if the connection attempt to the partner is in SYN_SENT or ESTABLISHED?
[16:13] <mbeierl> _joey: never mind.  you seem to have moved on to something else, now.  ignore me
[16:13] <rigved> hi everyone...can anyone tell me how to apply the patch as mentioned in the last comment on bug 849967
[16:13] <dandre> hello
[16:13] <dandre> since my upgrade to 11.10 the beahviour for tab completion has changed in bash. For instance I type cd dir[tab] and now I get 'cd directory ' instead of 'cd directory/'
[16:14] <lunitik> obviousTroll: that is not enough information, please throw /var/logs/xorg.0.log onto a pastebin
[16:14] <_joey> mbeierl: it's frastrating ))
[16:14] <_joey> you know
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[16:14] <lunitik> obviousTroll: uhh, Xorg.0.log
[16:14] <_joey> something as simple as upgrade and people are asking the same question over and over again. I am not abusing the system and misconfiguring it.
[16:14] <lunitik> obviousTroll: also ~/.xsession-errors might be useful
[16:14] <_joey> it's just not working
[16:15] <_joey> bbr
[16:15] <devlin> <-- Looking for help with blackscreen issues. Have an ATI Radeon 6xxx on my laptop. Can only get a tty login. How can I fix this?
[16:16] <obviousTroll> linitik: Xorg.o.log --> http://pastebin.com/EEJLGVAB (Thanks)
[16:16] <mbeierl> _joey: yes, i do know.  I've had a fair amount of frustration with 11.04 myself, but... for those who really want long term stability, it is recommended not to upgrade every 6 months, but to stick with LTS.  now about the util-linux... was there anything else?  could you pastebin the whole session of apt-get upgrade?
[16:16]  * lunitik wishes his Ubuntu was horribly broken so he could be more familiar with issues others are seeing
[16:16] <chris122380> #eclipse
[16:16] <VictorCL> ok I found my prlblem xD
[16:16] <dandre> this is not with cd but with ls
[16:16] <Polah> devlin: An actual system TTY, or recovery console/initramfs command line?
[16:17] <under> reisio: can I use it under virtualbox?
[16:17] <obviousTroll> lunitik: xsession-errors --> http://pastebin.com/ngWQ2sfi
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> lunitik: same here, kde works flawlessly :)
[16:17] <VictorCL> 1 * * * * /var/www/vhosts/mysite.com/subdomains/solventis/httpdocs/cron/sendreminder.sh <-- doesnt run every 1 minute xD  but the first minute of every hour ¬¬
[16:17] <reisio> under: yes, but it works via Wine...
[16:17] <VictorCL> how can I make it run everyminute
[16:17] <rigved> hi everyone...can anyone tell me how to apply the patch as mentioned in the last comment on bug 849967...https://launchpad.net/bugs/849967
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | devlin
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: do you have a desktop UI?
[16:18] <VictorCL> what do yo mean?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: do you use a Gnome deskop?
[16:18] <VictorCL> no is trough ssh
[16:18] <Polah> VictorCL: Change the first part to * not 1
[16:18] <VictorCL> all * ?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: ok, cool :(  there is gnome-schedule you can install and use if you had a desktop OS
[16:19] <Polah> VictorCL: The first * is for minute, settings it to 1 runs it at minute 1 of every hour, of every day and so on. As * instead of 1 runs at every minute of every hour of every day and so on
[16:19] <mbeierl> VictorCL: yes, that is the semantics of cron.  5,10,15, etc for the first field means on minute 5,10,15 etc
[16:19] <VictorCL> ok the minimun is minutes .. I get it
[16:20] <lunitik> obviousTroll: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/523027 seems unresolved bug  :(
[16:20] <pr0d> Anyone have any idea where xen xmdomain.cfg's are stored? They should be in /etc/xen but things dont seem to be that way on ubuntu
[16:21] <obviousTroll> lunitik: Aww crap. I am also one of the unlucky few that had a black screen on boot. (I've worked around this)  I'll subscribe to the bug.  Thanks for your help
[16:23] <denis__> how can I minimize all windows with keyboard
[16:23] <Mrono> question
[16:23] <organiks> hey can someone help me out with why im getting no sound
[16:23] <organiks> on 11.10
[16:23] <Mrono> when I click 'lock screen', what gets triggered?
[16:24] <root_> using start+d button
[16:24] <_joey> whohoo
[16:24] <denis__> I am using unity 2d
[16:24] <Gentoo64> _joey: formatted?
[16:25] <darshan> command to edit the file
[16:25] <darshan> ?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Mrono: http://z-computer-z.blogspot.com/2010/01/lock-screen-on-linux-ubuntu-from.html
[16:25] <_joey> I ordered a shiny Apple Mac with it's friendly sleek GUI and rock solid kernel :)
[16:25] <darshan> suppose the file is /etc/hosts
[16:25] <Polah> darshan: command line or GUI?
[16:26] <darshan> command line
[16:26] <_joey> Gentoo64: I uncommented canonical url in sources.list and there's some activity now
[16:26] <Stanley00> denis__: I think Ctrl + Alt + D will
[16:26] <lunitik> darshan: sudo nano /etc/hosts prolly... its the easiest editor
[16:26] <_joey> I will sort commercial unsupported application later
[16:27] <ghabit> Hello. @ ubuntu update-manager there is security, updates, proposed & backports updates. Which of them I have choose? Can someone explain it for me?
[16:27] <pis0ga> is there anyone using touchpad-indicator? I'm using version 0.8.1.1 on lucid, and it works not very well..
[16:27] <darshan> any other suggestion?
[16:27] <Gentoo64> darshan: nano or vim
[16:28] <lunitik> ghabit: window key > search for 'software sources', go to the 'Updates" tab and tell us yourself... the checkboxed ones are active
[16:28] <darshan> tell with command
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> ghabit: just dont enable the proposed or backports. The rest are fine to enable
[16:28] <rigved> ghabit: security is important...apply these as soon as they come
[16:28] <Gentoo64> darshan: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[16:28] <ghabit> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[16:28] <rigved> ghabit: the recommended ones you can do later whenever you have time
[16:29] <rigved> ghabit: do not do the proposed and backports, unless you actually need them
[16:29] <_joey> which desktop env: gnome or kde?:)
[16:29] <ghabit> rigved, what they does? proposed and backports I mean.
[16:29] <Gentoo64> _joey: for what?
[16:29] <darshan> 127.0.1.2	public.localhost	
[16:29] <_joey> for desktop
[16:29] <Gentoo64> _joey: up to you
[16:30] <Mrono> ActionParsnip: I uninstalled gnome-screensaver to see if that is what was freezing when my computer locked
[16:30] <Stanley00> pr0d: try run "locate xmdomain.cfg" or if that's dosent work, "cd / && find -iname "xmdomain.cfg""
[16:30] <darshan> 127.0.1.3	private.localhost	private
[16:30] <Gentoo64> _joey: gnomes bigger and cleaner, kde is more windows 7 like
[16:30] <_joey> Gentoo64: I like to consider features instead throwing a coin
[16:30] <Mrono> ActionParsnip: whatever controls the locking of the computer is freezing 50% of the time
[16:30] <Polah> ghabit: security contains security updates, updates contains general system and program updates, proposed contains updates for programs which have not been sufficiently tested and deemed stable enough for recommended updates, backports contains older versions of programs from older versions of Ubuntu.
[16:30] <rigved> ghabit: proposed are the ones which will come to you after they have been tested...so do not install them unless you are a tester...
[16:30] <Polah> ghabit: Then you have different components like main, restricted, universe and multiverse.
[16:30] <Gentoo64> _joey: they can both do the same stuff. kde has more apps and little options
[16:30] <_joey> Gentoo64: I like KDE then
[16:30] <darshan> this i want to add into an existing file wat exact command i should run
[16:30] <Polah> !repositories | ghabit
[16:31] <rigved> ghabit: backports is for new versions that you can use use on your old system...
[16:31] <_joey> Gentoo64: Gnome is installed by default. How do I switch to KDE?
[16:31] <ghabit> Polah, rigved, thanks a lot! Now it's clear for me.
[16:31] <_joey> without breaking the system :)
[16:31] <Gentoo64> _joey: not sure. you sohuld have installed kubuntu lol
[16:31] <newB> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu. After spending more than 2 hours downloading Ubuntu 11.10 it seems my P4 computer cannot run it. Would Ubuntu 10.04LTS function properly on a P4 computer?
[16:31] <ck> Blender quit working after the last update
[16:32] <Gentoo64> newB: yes it will. is it the wrong arch? like 64 bit
[16:32] <starsinmypockets> Anyone know what file is supposed to get the SSH public key in OSX? I'm using ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (directly pasting contents of id_dsa.pub) but no worky
[16:32] <ck> the guys in the blender channel think it is a x? problem
[16:32] <rigved> newB: it should. only after you have tried it will you know for sure.
[16:33] <bah> does anyonke know how apt-get resolves which ppa to pull from if a package name exists on multiple ppas (e.g. universe and a custom ppa I've added)?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Mrono: are there any bugs reported?
[16:34] <lunitik> bah: it is based on version number... I do not know whether PPA's a relevant to apt's priorities function
[16:34] <Gentoo64> bah: maybe goes by the version
[16:34] <mbeierl> bah: there is a "priority" assigned to each package.  It first checks the version and uses the highest number version
[16:34] <llutz> bah: if no pinning active, it'll use the highest version number (1st hit repo if versions are equal)
[16:34] <bah> thanks
[16:35] <Mrono> ActionParsnip: only bug I know of is one for 11.04 with gnome 3.2 lock screen freezing 100% of the time on 64-bit, except i'm running on 32-bit
[16:35] <Confoozled> Hello.  I have problems booting my Ubuntu 10.10 system.  Get a message that plymouth-splash main process (numbers vary...855, 854, 874) terminated with status 1.
[16:36] <wildbat> where do i look to debug/fix laptop screen button so that the screen will off when i close that laptop? right now it don't and " $ xset dpms force off " will turn of the screen for a few second and then it will turns back on even if not keyboard or mouse movement.
[16:36] <ck> Blender quit working after the update last night. anyone know why?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Mrono: could add that it affects 32bit too
[16:36] <lunitik> ck: try running blender from the terminal emulator of your choice and it'll output exactly why
[16:36] <Gentoo64> ck: whats it say when you run blender from terminal
[16:36] <lunitik> Gentoo64: copy cat
[16:37] <Gentoo64> you copied me
[16:37] <mang0> ck: Did you update blender? I'm a blender user myself...
[16:37] <ck> :~/Desktop/blender-2.60-linux-glibc27-i686$ ./blender
[16:37] <ck> connect failed: No such file or directory
[16:37] <ck> ndof: spacenavd not found
[16:37] <ck> X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error)
[16:37] <ck>   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)
[16:37] <ck>   Minor opcode of failed request:  17 (X_GLXVendorPrivateWithReply)
[16:37] <FloodBot1> ck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37]  * lunitik points at time stamps
[16:37] <Gentoo64> ck: paste it
[16:37] <Gentoo64> ck: try reinstalling it
[16:37] <_joey> Gentoo64: don't you think Qt look better than GTK+?
[16:37] <ck> Not know of this past of which you speak
[16:37] <purpleyuan> Hey all. Which file do I need to edit to change the path directory?
[16:37] <sambro> how do i set the default desktop session?
[16:37] <Gentoo64> _joey: i dont at all
[16:38] <ck> paste, urkm
[16:38] <newB> Gentoo64: mine is a old P4 with 1GB RAM. 32 bit.  Would Ubuntu 10.04LTS would work or should I download Linux Mint 11?
[16:38] <Gentoo64> _joey: i hate it
[16:38] <mang0> ck: Just reinstall, simpler
[16:38] <_joey> the GTK+?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: you can add to it by adding a line in ~/.bashrc
[16:38] <purpleyuan> I located .dot.back_profile, but I have a feel that that's outdated?
[16:38] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: cool, thanks!
[16:38] <Gentoo64> newB: mint has the same requirements as its basically the same distro. a p4 with 1gb ram should be able to run pretty much anything
[16:38] <mbeierl> _joey - did anyone answer how to switch to KDE from standard ubuntu install yet?  if not, just install kubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: you can add:  export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/folder
[16:38] <ck> I uninstalled and reinstalled several times
[16:39] <lunitik> ck: this appears to be a self-build blender?
[16:39] <genii-around> purpleyuan: Do you mean the paths that are searched for applications to run, or the default paths which are defined like Desktop, Documents, and so on?
[16:39] <_joey> we have macs at work. After using Mac GUI Gnome is so akward and ugly even some GUI features look similar
[16:39] <mbeierl> _joey: then you can either choose at login time which env you want, or remove ubuntu-desktop to get rid of gnome altogether.  it's about the same as having installed kubuntu in the first place
[16:39] <newB> Gentoo64: How about Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: then save the new file and run:  source ~/.bashrc   and its ready to rock
[16:39] <Gentoo64> _joey: thats because your used to mac. i hate the mac gui too
[16:39] <_joey> mbeierl: thanks
[16:39] <gatis> hello to everybody, i was wondering how can i assign IP address to device that is connected and MOUNTED to my Ubuntu machine? in this case device is a phone
[16:39] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: The paths for apps to run
[16:39] <Confoozled> so...anybody have any idea about plymouth-splash?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> newB: mint is offtopic here
[16:40] <_joey> Gentoo64: :))
[16:40] <ck> I have tried the 2.6, suposed 2 b so, and the software center both
[16:40] <Gentoo64> newB: yeah try it it should work. id use xfce or lxde for 1gb ram though itll be a lot faster
[16:40] <shubbar> I'm getting the X on black. Help!
[16:40] <_joey> is there anything you like other than Gnome?:)
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: yes, that's what that is for
[16:40] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: If there's a swap file, does that mean it's currently being accessed?
[16:40] <Gentoo64> _joey: me?
[16:40] <_joey> yes
[16:40] <christian__> Can anyone tell me where i need to place the *.exe files, so that qemu find them ?? i get this error:
[16:40] <christian__> QEMU: {ERROR} [REGISTRY_ANALYZER]: X X Could not find process with name exec.exe.
[16:40] <christian__> QEMU: {ERROR} [ANALYSIS_COORDINATOR]: X X Could not include the launcher-process into the analysis.
[16:40] <Gentoo64> _joey: i use openbox
[16:40] <christian__> i have the exec.exe file... but dont know where to place it :(
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: if you run:  sudo swapoff /dev/partition       then it will not be used, by default it will be used
[16:41] <mbeierl> _joey: there is actually a third choce: xfce, which is a really minimal install that is the equivalent to xubuntu
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: openbox rocks :)
[16:41] <Gentoo64> ActionParsnip: i know
[16:41] <Gentoo64> :)
[16:41] <_joey> I remember xfce with a little rat
[16:41] <shubbar> Checked the hdd in rescue mode, but that didn't help
[16:41] <Gentoo64> sewer rat
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: I do like to run it in LXDE though
[16:41] <_joey> and a window maker
[16:41] <darshan> 127.0.1.2	public.localhost	public ,127.0.1.3	private.localhost	private ,if this is entries i want to add to /etc/hosts file wat would be its command
[16:41] <Confoozled> Hello.  I have problems booting my Ubuntu 10.10 system.  Get a message that plymouth-splash main process (numbers vary...855, 854, 874) terminated with status 1.
[16:42] <Confoozled> anybody got any ideas?
[16:42] <VictorCL> how do you do UNDO on vim ?
[16:42] <Gentoo64> VictorCL: exit insert mode and press u
[16:42] <VictorCL> ok
[16:43] <newB> What's the ideal version of Ubuntu for P4 with 1GB RAM?
[16:43] <Gentoo64> VictorCL: escape exits insert mode
[16:43] <Gentoo64> newB: xubuntu or lubuntu
[16:43] <Stanley00> darshan: you can use nano, it's an easy editor...
[16:43] <Gentoo64> newB: id use lubuntu if i was you
[16:43] <SilverMonkey> xubuntu rules
[16:43] <ck> OK, the terminal output has been pasted into paste.ubuntu.com
[16:44] <newB> Gentoo64: Thanks for the suggestion
[16:44] <Gentoo64> SilverMonkey: pretty slow on old comps though. tried it on my family comp and was sluggish
[16:44] <purpleyuan> $a
[16:44] <ck> do you see it?
[16:44] <Confoozled> So...nobody?  or...am I invisible?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> newB: Ive ran a full compiz/gnome on 1Gb RAM with single core 1.6Ghz AMD sempron
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: I can see you
[16:44] <Confoozled> oh ok
[16:44] <moonunitzappa> hey guys
[16:44] <Gentoo64> ck: you need to post the link to the page
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: try waiting longer than 120 seconds for a reply
[16:45] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  ok..
[16:45] <moonunitzappa> Anyone know how i can get the "system" drop down on the TOP panel in 11.10
[16:45] <ck> ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/714351/
[16:45] <Gentoo64> ok
[16:45] <moonunitzappa> i got gnome sheel and gnome panel
[16:45] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  tried forever a few hours ago
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: what does plymouth-splash status 1 mean?
[16:45] <w00y__> Hi, I have just installed a library and it prompted me with "If you ever happen
[16:45] <w00y__>                 to want to link against installed libraries in a given directory you must use
[16:45] <w00y__>                 libtool, and specify the full pathname of the library /usr/local/lib." Whats
[16:46] <w00y__>                 the right way to use the libtool?
[16:46] <newB> ActionParsnip: I tried Ubuntu 11.10 but it dont seem to work properly on my P4 with GB RAM.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> newB: a lighter DE will give more resources to your apps, making a smoother OS
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> newB: what GPU do you use?
[16:46] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  that is the last message I get by booting...   plymouth-splash main process (854) terminating with status 1.
[16:46] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  no idea what it means
[16:47] <newB> ActionParsnip: P4  2.8Ghz.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: so you haven't used the web to find out?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> newB: no the GPU, on the video card...
[16:47] <Gentoo64> newB: i would use lubuntu. it sounds like my family comp specs- p4 3ghz 1gb ram. lubuntu runs nice on it
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> newB: the P4 is the CPU, not the GPU
[16:47] <_joey> but Ubuntu and Kubuntu are equally well suported?
[16:47] <Ozik> hi there, got one question, I have ssh access to my server only. (ubuntu server 10.04) I want to do do fresh install or something similar, but as RAID 1 with mdadm, is it possible remote?
[16:47] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  I searched it
[16:47] <Gentoo64> _joey: yeah
[16:48] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: when I attempt to run my script, why does it say "Permission denied"?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: what GPU do you use?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: its not a script
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> purpleyuan: run:  source ~/.bashrc
[16:49] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  GPU?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: on your video card....
[16:49] <luis_> Try this: http://jechem.blogspot.com/2011/04/fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-on.html
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: ATi? Nvidia? Intel? SiS
[16:50] <darshan> which keyboard button will let me to come out from nano without saving nething
[16:50] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I did that and I confirmed that the path I put in is part of $PATH, but when I try to run the script that is in that folder, it gives Permission Denied
[16:50] <Polah> Confoozled, run this: lspci | grep VGA   then pastebin the output
[16:50] <newB> ActionParsnip: the original video card that comes with old  dell Optiplex P4  170L.
[16:50] <Gentoo64> darshan: ctrl + x then "n"
[16:50] <Gentoo64> then enter
[16:50] <xtian> hi everyone. any devs/packagers around?
[16:50] <newB> Gentoo64: thanks. i'll try lubuntu anyway.
[16:51] <Confoozled> so...   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98M [GeForce G 103M] (rev a1)
[16:51] <moonunitzappa> Anyone know how i can get the "system" drop down on the TOP panel in 11.10
[16:51] <moonunitzappa> i got gnome sheel and gnome panel
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: I found a bug, if you boot to root recovery mode and run:  echo FRAMEBUFFER=y | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash; sudo update-initramfs -u     then reboot, it may help. Source: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/567249
[16:51] <bhavesh> I er did not accept the EULA terms for Microsoft fonts while installing wine and installation is stuck there.. what am I supposed to do?
[16:52] <bhavesh> nvm.. solved..
[16:52] <necrite> hello
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: how come I found that so very quickly...?
[16:52] <xtian> i've set up a basic amd64 ubuntu/precise chroot using debootstrap. chrooted into it, added some more deb-src'es, selected a bunch of packages for install, and apt-get would start to randomly choose i386 packages for install ('bout half of the packages selected)
[16:52] <necrite> anyone with oneiric ? i have problems with flash player
[16:52] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  you probably no where to look
[16:52] <purpleyuan> ActionParsnip: Nvm. I got it; I'm an idiot. Thanks a bunch for all your help :)
[16:52] <luis_> confoozled: Try this,  http://jechem.blogspot.com/2011/04/fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-on.html
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: http://www.google.co.uk/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=plymouth-splash+status+1+
[16:53] <xtian> removed "foreign-architecture i386" from /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch, and things work
[16:53] <lunitik> necrite: yes, but I have no problems with it
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: thats all I used
[16:54] <lunitik> xtian: #ubuntu-devel ... but I don't see a question so far
[16:54] <necrite> lunitik, wich flashplugin u have? installed ?
[16:54] <darshan> ok command how to save my entries in nano and come out of it.
[16:54] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  I put in the whole line and got all kinds of sites that didnt help me
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: if you keep searches simple you find stuff. I'm inclined to believe you did no searching prsonally
[16:54] <Gentoo64> darshan: ctrl +x then "y" then enter
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: try the fix I gave
[16:54] <xtian> lunitik: why would an amd64 apt prefer i386 over amd64, even if amd64 packages are available?
[16:54] <christian__1> i need help with qemu :(
[16:55] <reisio> christian__1: what's your processor?
[16:55] <christian__1> E6600
[16:55] <christian__1> intel
[16:55] <lunitik> necrite: the one depended on by ubuntu-restricted-addons ... it is 11.0
[16:55] <christian__1> but thats not the problem
[16:55] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  I will.  Im new to Linux.  Grew up on windows and got fed up.  I like it, but I do feel like a child wandering around in a really neat jungle.
[16:55] <xtian> lunitik: but yes, will ask on #ubuntu-devel
[16:55] <christian__1> i can start qemu
[16:56] <lunitik> xtian: it shouldn't, at all
[16:56] <christian__1> but then i get a windows error with the message that a probelm with exec.exe occured
[16:56] <christian__1> and qemu tells me that he cant find a process named exec.exe
[16:56] <xtian> lunitik: then the question is, why it does. :-) (host is amd64 as well, not the chroot only)
[16:56] <christian__1> :/
[16:56] <luis_> http://jechem.blogspot.com/2011/04/fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-on.html
[16:56] <xtian> lunitik: i'll switch to #ubuntu-devel, thanks
[16:57] <snikker> hi how can i get a size of partition? fdisk -l show only total size of hard drive
[16:57] <anAngel> Hello. What is the purpose of cgroup-lite package on 11.10? Because it causes my OS to hang at boot if it is installed. I upgraded from 11.04 a few days ago and i am using lxc.
[16:57] <christian__1> if anyobody here has expirece with qemu, please contact me
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: there are lots of guides, as I said, keep searches simple and you'll do better. The more words you search for in web search engines will get more hits
[16:57] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  Thanks for your help.  I did try to fix it myself...several times.  I just have no idea.  will be back later if it doesnt work
[16:57] <lunitik> xtian: did it start using i386 by default when you removed the foreign-architecture line?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: hope it works dude
[16:58] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  good tip.  I always try to search as specifically as possible
[16:58] <Confoozled> ActionParsnip:  later
[16:58] <theadmin> By the way, is Ubuntu still being a hamster about Firefox, i.e. holding back major upgrades?
[16:58] <Gentoo64> noticed earlier google removed + from the search box
[16:58] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, I'm running 11.04. I installed xlockmore and launched that on my laptop, the screen started flashing between black and the xlockmore password prompt when I tried to go from a suspended state to xlockmore, but eventually it lets me type my password in. Now this is happening with gnome's xlock. :/
[16:58] <Gentoo64> need "" only now
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox
[16:59] <lunitik> anAngel: it is a tool to provision resources on your system... on a desktop, it is unlikely you need it.
[16:59] <Stanley00> snikker: maybe the df command will
[16:59] <marko-_-> Hello can you fellas help me out. I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and i have python3 and python2.7 installed. now 2.7 is the default one, i'm trying to use 3.0 with pycharm, how do i do that?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its at version 7 in oneiric if thats any good to you
[16:59] <iceflatline> snikker: Try df -h
[16:59] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Not really, I'm wondering more of Natty or Lucid
[16:59] <delirmis_ci> hello!
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox natty
[16:59] <necrite> lunitik, how can I konw if I have this repo?
[16:59] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Often old Ubuntu versions mean *really* old FF's
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: 7 in natty too....
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox lucid
[17:00] <lunitik> necrite: you will by default... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-addons
[17:00] <Gentoo64> !info firefox maverick
[17:00] <theadmin> Oh, wow
[17:00] <theadmin> Old in Lucid and Maverick, I see
[17:00] <celltech> So is the only way out of this "unity" to downgrade to 11.04? Cause i'm totally ready to do that
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: seems tobe older in Lucid, there are PPAs for newer ones but I dont know much of firefox
[17:00] <delirmis_ci> Is there any command line application to check if dns works or not like this: "check_dns_package 8.8.8.8 www.google.com"
[17:00]  * ARCK está away.. [away desde 03:00] [t7DS: pager/on, logging/on]
[17:00] <theadmin> Well not that it matters to me, I'm an Opera and Arch user, just wondering :D
[17:00] <Gentoo64> theadmin: meh 3.6 is snappier anyway
[17:00] <anAngel>  lunitik: thanks for the reply. i am using the pc as router/server using lxc (linux containers)
[17:01] <Polah> celltech: No. There's lots of other environments you can use if you like. GNOME3 shell or panels, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Enlightenment and so on.
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> delirmis_ci: nslookup www.bbc.co.uk
[17:01] <xtian> lunitik: no, it used proper amd64 packages after removing the multiarch line
[17:01] <lunitik> anAngel: so you are looking to allocate resources per container?
[17:01] <reisio> christian__1: you should be using kvm, not qemu
[17:01] <celltech> K cause I really don't like this new 11.10 set up at all. I liked having more control over my system
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer
[17:01] <christian__1> reisio i cant
[17:01] <reisio> christian__1: why not
[17:01] <christian__1> but why ?
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> any solution
[17:02] <necrite> lunitik, ok.. i got it.. Could you please tell me which package you have?
[17:02] <lunitik> xtian: that is what I asked... so I recommend putting it back
[17:02] <reisio> because qemu is much slower
[17:02] <christian__1> its an project that builds upon qemu
[17:02] <reisio> christian__1: it should work with kvm, too
[17:02] <reisio> christian__1: or are you saying it's a modified qemu build?
[17:02] <christian__1> yes
[17:02] <christian__1> its basing on qemu afaik
[17:02] <reisio> ah, too bad
[17:02] <christian__1> but why is kvm better for me ?
[17:02] <lunitik> necrite: it says version 8 of ubuntu-restricted-addons
[17:03] <xtian> lunitik: but the chroot is amd64, the host is amd64, and apt was *supposed* to install amd64 packages, not i386, at least where amd64 is available
[17:03] <reisio> christian__1: it's better period, in general
[17:03] <christian__1> i think its running nice, but only cant find the exec.exe
[17:03] <christian__1> oh ok.. no its a virus analysis system
[17:03] <christian__1> startet at 2006 or so i think
[17:03] <lunitik> xtian: well, but by saying removing foreign-architecture... it seems to think it is the native architecture...
[17:03] <xtian> lunitik: when the multiarch entry was there, it randomly selected i386 where it was supposed to select amd64 (and use i386 as fallback only, imho)
[17:04] <anAngel> lunitik: no. just after i upgraded the os from 11.04 to 11.10 it stopped booting normaly and i found out the cause was the cgroup-lite package and i deinstalled it and everything started working and booting normally. Just wandered it is something importand and needed.
[17:04] <lunitik> anAngel: no
[17:04] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[17:04] <reisio> christian__1: they should really use kvm at this point
[17:04] <wiredfool> fg
[17:04] <lunitik> kamilnadeem: #kubuntu
[17:04] <lindenle> Can anyone helpe me get evolution to talk to exchange 5.5?
[17:04] <xtian> lunitik: about half of the ~100 packages i selected for install were chosen as amd64, the other half as i386... that sounds odd
[17:05] <christian__1> but qemu is still supported and developed, or not ?
[17:05] <moonunitzappa> Anyone know how i can get the "system" drop down on the TOP panel in 11.10
[17:05] <moonunitzappa> i got gnome sheel and gnome panel
[17:05] <kamilnadeem> Yes
[17:05] <lunitik> moonunitzappa: you can't
[17:05] <kamilnadeem> lunitik yes
[17:05] <reisio> christian__1: for now
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: you can add a command to manipulate the sound at login
[17:05] <kamilnadeem> I am all ears
[17:06] <xtian> lunitik: apt docs claim that if nothing else is configured (and it is not for me), apt will assume it's target arch (it was built for) is the preferred one
[17:06] <christian__1> i dont think its possible to change it
[17:06] <xtian> lunitik: now, with the multiarch line for i386 removed, i'm getting the clean amd64 chroot i was out for
[17:06] <lunitik> xtian: is no one active in #ubuntu-devel ? I do not understand what it is doing, and do not see the issue here
[17:07] <christian__1> its woring now reisio
[17:07] <xtian> lunitik: i've blathered there, too, but no, nothing so far
[17:07] <avn-matt> heh, anyone know if there anything for windows to work with a couple apcupsd servers running in the office here
[17:07] <christian__1> i forgot to change the PsActiveProcessHead
[17:07] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip How?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: http://pastebin.com/FeZsaCe5    as a script at boot will set the levels if you add the script to run at login
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: give me chance, jesus
[17:08] <christian__1> god i am so glad it works now :D 3 days sepnt on setting up the system.. and still not everything finsihed
[17:08] <reisio> christian__1: gj
[17:08] <kamilnadeem> sorry I thought you missed my reply
[17:08] <christian__1> thanks for trying to help reisio
[17:09] <lunitik> avn-matt: Windows can work with CUPS but you have to enable the service... and I forget where since I use Linux
[17:09] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip I run it in terminal
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: no, i was websearching
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: put it in a script, then have the script run when your user logs in
[17:09] <lunitik> avn-matt: wherever the TCP/IP service is enabled at... I don't recall
[17:09] <kamilnadeem> How to put it in a script?
[17:10] <jaaacck> Hey, can anyone help, since dual booting with windows 7, and ubuntu 11.04, i can no longer boot at all, i can only get into the p
[17:10] <jaaacck> BIOS, any suggestions?
[17:11] <jaaacck> anyone?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: run:   gksudo gedit /usr/bin/fixsound; sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/fixsound
[17:12] <kamilnadeem> ok doing.
[17:12] <anAngel> Anyone to know if there is a difference between using the cgroup-lite package and manually mounting cgroup fs using /etc/fstab file?
[17:12] <jaaacck> Hey, can anyone help, since dual booting with windows 7, and ubuntu 11.04, i can no longer boot at all, i can only get into the bios, and i cant boot with a CD either
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: when you close gedit, the file wil be marked executable, then add a new startup item to run fixsound
[17:12] <avn-matt> lunitik: winapcupsd-X.X.X.exe was what i was referring to, just curious if anyone messed with it on win 7
[17:12] <kamilnadeem> The program 'gksudo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[17:12] <kamilnadeem> sudo apt-get install gksu
[17:13] <kamilnadeem> I install it first?
[17:13] <Bragex9> can anyone pastebin me an example of an xorg.conf modeline for  40inch lcd monitor, or an example of a complete xorg.conf file?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: oh sorry, you use kde
[17:13] <e20100633> avn-matt: hey, excuse me, is that a cupsd client for windows?
[17:13] <kamilnadeem> yes sir Kubuntu 11.10
[17:13] <lunitik> avn-matt: this is #ubuntu
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: kdesudo kate /usr/bin/fixsound; sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/fixsound
[17:14] <lunitik> avn-matt: for instance, I haven't even touched Windows in 12 years
[17:14] <Druid_> i got a problem. somehow i managed to kill unity in 11.10. In 2d mode it works, but normal mode the system tray and launcher is gone
[17:14] <mbeierl> jaaacck: if you cannot boot anything, then there's probably a problem with the hardware.  Not likely much help anyone can give here, sorry
[17:14] <wildbat> jaaacck: why you can't ? is there error message? what you see, hear, smell?
[17:14] <jaaacck> smell nothing, hear nothing, just a black like flashing after the bios has loaded
[17:14] <lucid_interval> Bragex9: what is the resolution of your 40-in monitor and what is the Horiz scan frequency - you can get this from your monitor specs
[17:15] <ghabit> Guys, where I can get history of this channel?
[17:15] <jaaacck> and its only happened since i have restarted with ubuntu installed dual boot with windows 7 ultimate
[17:16] <avn-matt> lunitik, @FileServer:~$ apcaccess status APC      : 001,037,0931  DATE     : 2011-10-20 11:14:37 -0600  HOSTNAME : FileServer VERSION  : 3.14.8 (16 January 2010) debian
[17:16] <Bragex9> lucid_interval: ahh ok. I have to check when I get home. I will be back in here later tonight. Will u be here?
[17:16] <avn-matt> e20100633: yeah, but from win2k...
[17:16] <irbinix> Hello. What alternative of evernote i can use? (with desktop client)
[17:16] <ghabit> Polah, do you have history of this channel?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> ghabit: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:16] <VictorCL> it will be too much resource usage to put a cron for every 1 minute to execute a php file ?
[17:16] <Polah> !history | ghabit
[17:16] <Polah> Maybe not
[17:16] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/1DG3MPgT
[17:17] <Polah> !logs | ghabit
[17:17] <holapenguin> hi guys, general ubuntu noob here.  I'm logged in as an administator over gnome 3.  I would like to create a file in /etc/apache2/sites-available and I know I need to authenticate as root.  how do I do this over the UI?
[17:17] <pisto> hi. is there a way to test the validity of a repository without sudo apt-get update?
[17:17] <mbeierl> jaaacck: is there a bios option to bring up a boot device selection menu?
[17:17] <puff> Is there any tool or setting I can use to dynamically level the volume on streaming audio?
[17:17] <jaaacck> yeah, i have also tried booting to a cd, that doesnt work either, and i have my primary HDD Selected
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: the file isn't a default file. you are MAKING the NeW script
[17:18] <jamil_1> holapenguin: you start nautilus as root
[17:18] <mbeierl> jaaacck: it is the same CD you used to do the Ubuntu install?  Can you boot that CD anywhere else?
[17:18] <puff> I'm listening to Pandora and songs vary in volume levels, which means I have to constantly lower/raise the volume to adjust.  Is there any way to do this automatically?
[17:18] <avn-matt> lunitik: ref not using windows in 12 years - lucky dog... i think half my time supporting the office here is due to their love for outlook....
[17:18] <ghabit> Polah, looks like no fresh logs there. maybe you have your own?
[17:18] <jamil_1> *can
[17:18] <kamilnadeem> so I save it right , then add it to the stat up application?
[17:18] <jaaacck> its active@ Boot disk,
[17:19] <holapenguin> an0219
[17:19] <jaaacck> should i try with the ubuntu CD too?
[17:19] <lucid_interval> I may not be around, but here is a hint. You can use one of the following commands: gtf or cvt. If you are using gtf, just do: gtf horiz_res vert_res refresh_rate. Ignore my previous statement about horiz rate. It is REFRESH RATE for LCD monitors
[17:19] <holapenguin> exit
[17:19] <mbeierl> jaaacck: please do.  let's try to rule out hardware.  if it booted before, it should boot again
[17:19] <ghabit> Polah, sorry, found it!
[17:19] <lucid_interval> Bragex9:  I may not be around, but here is a hint. You can use one of the following commands: gtf or cvt. If you are using gtf, just do: gtf horiz_res vert_res refresh_rate. Ignore my previous statement about horiz rate. It is REFRESH RATE for LCD monitors
[17:20] <luis_> Sounds Like jaaacck's MBR is bad
[17:20] <lucid_interval> Bragex9: so if your monitor was capable of max 1920x1080 at 60hz, you would type: gtf 1920 1080 60
[17:20] <jaaacck> right, its booted to a purple screen, not sure if its the install screen or not though for ubuntu
[17:20] <lucid_interval> Bragex9: The output will be a valid modeline you can use in xorg.conf (Note: TYPICALLY you should not need to edit xorg.conf in newer Ubuntu versions)
[17:21] <celltech> How do I switch from unity on 11.10. I can't take it... My graphics don't work in unity and my screen is all jacked
[17:21] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/xRumiD2C
[17:21] <pr0d> How would i go about stopping ubuntu using certain devices. My reason is using Xen and IOMMU, i basically use these device and attach them to a VM.
[17:21] <mbeierl> jaaacck: that, at least, is a good sign,  means that you are indeed able to boot a cd.
[17:22] <jaaacck> what should i try now?]
[17:22] <mbeierl> I need to run, can anyone else help jaaacck do a grub recovery?  I /think/ that might help
[17:22] <knxville> I've run into a weird problem.. I can not wirelessly connect to my AP, but I can see it.. I can connect with my mobile phone
[17:22] <instructor> people, i have a problem. "amixer sset Master toggle" does mute the volume, but it does not unmute.... can you please check on your machine?
[17:22] <jaaacck> i have to go too, ill be back on laterr, thanks for the help thogh
[17:22] <mbeierl> !grub2 | jaaacck
[17:23] <mentoc> Does anyone know of any S3 channels?
[17:23] <instructor> anyone ?
[17:24] <mentoc> found one
[17:24] <Bragex9> lucid_interval: ok I will try this when I get home. I am not an experienced linux user so I might get trouble. My screen resolotuin messed up after upgrading to 11.10....I think also when upgrading from 9.x to 10.04 I got the same problem. I actually let someone from in here acces my computer to fix it...
[17:24] <moonunitzappa> Anyone know how i can get the "system" drop down on the TOP panel in 11.10
[17:24] <pr0d> #/join #linux
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| instructor
[17:24] <pr0d> oops lol
[17:24] <luis_> instructor: I don't have that problem
[17:24] <mentoc> Bragex9, You're quite the brave soul to let someone do that
[17:24] <freaky_> Having a weird issue, trying to create a partition, when I set unit to mib and start at 1 and some number partition (print) starts at 0.2MiB not at 1... what's not aligned on this:  1      2.00MiB  10142720MiB  10142718MiB               ReplayStorage
[17:24] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:25] <lucid_interval> Bragex9: I can definitely help you later tonight (I am in US PST). Look for me here on IRC. You should not need to let anyone into your machine to achieve this.
[17:25] <moonunitzappa> Can ANYONE PM me, I got A few qestions about 11.10
[17:25] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> moonunitzappa: offtopic: am listinging to a FZ cd :)
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> *lestening*
[17:26] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:26] <instructor> !gq
[17:26] <moonunitzappa> haha nice MonkeyDust
[17:27] <instructor> !poll
[17:27] <Bragex9> lucid_interval: ok. I will look for u a little later, about 60 minutes from now. I am in norway and the local time here i 7.26pm
[17:27] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:27] <moonunitzappa> Can anyone HELP me,  I just got 11.10 and dont want unity.  I want to the get "SYSTEM" menu back on top panel...anyideas?
[17:27] <vacho> can someone help me? I am following this guide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PHPOracle and I get stuck on the step where I need to define the location of the library. I get following error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lclntsh
[17:27] <root> c-hispano.org
[17:27] <anAngel> is there a difference between using the cgroup-lite package and manually mounting cgroup fs using /etc/fstab file?
[17:28] <knxville> My ubuntu pc wont connect to a WPA/WPA2 network suddenly, but my android phone can.. I tried changing a lot of configuration on the AP but its nothing with that..
[17:28] <lucid_interval> Bragex9: Aha - why don't you look for me early morning Norwegian time?
[17:28] <kamilnadeem> ActionParsnip shall I wait?
[17:29] <zx81_> hi
[17:29] <AKQJ10> hey, someone's getting problems with ecryptfs? losing profile? having to remount u'r private data?
[17:29] <avn-matt> lol, what ver of mirc did they take highlight out of options and put it under address book?
[17:29] <zx81_> by chance a trick, of a way to, view usb HDD plug in,
[17:29] <Bragex9> lucid_interval: early morning for me is a stress. Kids etc to kindergarten and school. Logistics are pressed in the morning
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> avn-matt: wrong channel
[17:30] <knxville> Is there any way to remove new updates that you already installed?
[17:30] <DoctorD90> hi!!!
[17:30] <zx81_> when i plug a DD (ntfs on my pc ) it isnt on the nautilus ????
[17:31] <avn-matt> MonkeyDust: yeah, prob could ask in any other linux channel besides ubuntu... hahah
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: ok make the file in your home folder then copy it in, you get the idea right
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> avn-matt: try #ubuntu-offtopic hahaha
[17:31] <avn-matt> MonkeyDust if you want to tell me why nautilus opens when i run gnome-terminal ever since i upgraded to 11.10
[17:31] <DoctorD90> sorry, someone cna help me?? i have problem during filezilla(ftp) download
[17:32] <DoctorD90> it gives me this error: filezilla filezilla-common libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: its a script to run at boot, putting it in /usr/bin will make it easier to access
[17:32] <DoctorD90> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[17:32] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:32] <jaybutts> My option to connect to VPN's disappeared when I upgade to gnome 3, how do I bring back that lil button I used to have for networking options that allowed me to turn vpn off and on
[17:33] <avn-matt> reinstalling gnome-shell fixed it, but i have to manually execute it on reboot.....
[17:33] <avn-matt> jaybutts: network-manager
[17:33] <posciak> hi, I'm trying to disable the windows+M shortuct which opens the set up chat/mail/etc. menu in main panel. I can't find where to disable it. Could anyone help?
[17:33] <jaybutts> avn-matt: ok, I don't have that I did I find for it, so just apt-get install network-manager?
[17:33] <de2> posciak: shortcuts
[17:33] <jaybutts> I think the dist upgrade removed it
[17:33] <DoctorD90> ...someideas about my problem??
[17:34] <avn-matt> jay ver of ubuntu? 11.10?
[17:34] <wunnle> hey
[17:34] <arghx> DoctorD90: what is the _actual_ error?
[17:34] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, I'm running 11.04. I installed xlockmore and launched that on my laptop, the screen started flashing between black and the xlockmore password prompt when I tried to go from a suspended state to xlockmore, but eventually it lets me type my password in. Now this is happening with gnome's xlock. :/
[17:34] <posciak> de2: it's not in keyboard shortcuts in administration if that's what you mean
[17:34] <wunnle> anyone uses empathy with none-hotmail msn adress?
[17:34] <jaybutts> avn-matt: yes I dist upgrade to 11.10 and now its gone
[17:34] <avn-matt> jaybutts ?
[17:35] <avn-matt> yeah i remember seeing a bunch of stuff on getting that back
[17:36] <avn-matt> jaybutts try running nm-applet in terminal
[17:36] <arghx> DoctorD90: don't do that
[17:36] <avn-matt> does that bring it up?
[17:36] <arghx> DoctorD90: stop the PMs. now!
[17:36] <arghx> !paste | DoctorD90
[17:36] <DoctorD90> ah..sorry!
[17:37] <jaybutts> avn-matt: nope , If i run nmapplet it says - application removed from notification area, I run it again and same result
[17:37] <avn-matt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62381/network-manager-stops-working-after-an-update-to-ca-certificates
[17:37] <avn-matt> have you tried those
[17:37] <DoctorD90> arghx, error is finish...i have to pastebin, or you have it yet ??
[17:38] <arghx> DoctorD90: please pastebin the output into paste.ubuntu.com
[17:38] <avn-matt> arghx seriously, why would you rather open up a window and read something rather then just get it pm'd to you?
[17:38] <jaybutts> avn-matt: trying it now
[17:38] <arghx> avn-matt: read what ubottu wrote until you understand it
[17:38] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:39] <arghx> avn-matt: sorr. read /msg ubottu pm  please
[17:40] <avn-matt> arghx: i just cant for the life of me understand how getting pm'd is sooo detrimental to your health you insist on measures which require more work for yourself...
[17:40] <DoctorD90> arghx, sorry, but my error line is of 3 lines..
[17:40] <DoctorD90> not 20..
[17:40] <arghx> avn-matt: have you read the !pm factoid? please do
[17:41] <Titmouse> The unity2D launcher doesn't respond to my settings in compiz settings manager. If I replace the current window manager with compiz then a second launcher appears over the top of the prevouis one which does listen to my settings. Full thread and screenshot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864849
[17:41] <de2> Hello i need so help with my boader and my dash home the boarder dont show active program skype for example and my dash home dont have on top priority even if thats the active one im writing in a firefox window can be above it so i dont see anything im running ubuntu 11.10
[17:41] <avn-matt> arghx your point really isn't the case this time...
[17:42] <DoctorD90> arghx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/714394/
[17:42] <DoctorD90> m pls
[17:42] <DoctorD90> i have to dinner
[17:42] <DoctorD90> THX ^^
[17:42] <jaybutts> avn-matt: thanks for the direction, looks like essentially I have to do another dist-upgrade because it broke some thing
[17:42] <arpd> I've just installed a fresh copy of 11.04, and grabbed nvidia proprietary drivers via apt-get; however, unity won't launch, only unity2d; trying to use UNITY_FORCE_START in /etc/environment just stops at the wallpaper, so the unity wm is having problems starting. /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[17:43] <arpd> gives me a segfault... help!
[17:43] <arghx> arpd: glxinfo
[17:43] <arpd> arghx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69513/how-can-i-get-unity3d-working-with-my-gtx570
[17:43] <arghx> rather: glxinfo |grep -i renderer
[17:43] <wunnle> hey
[17:43] <arpd> okay, sec
[17:44] <arpd> arghx: OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 570/PCI/SSE2
[17:44] <arpd> jockey says that the proprietary drivers are enabled;
[17:44] <arpd> nvidia settings window says opengl is fine
[17:44] <ynalok64> Hi, my messenger cannot start or receive messages from gg, can any one advice what to do?
[17:44] <wunnle> i create a ssh tunnel with "ssh -fND <port> <server> command. 5 mins ago, i think tunnel has crashed or something, so i restarted my computer. is there a faster way to recreate ssh tunnel?
[17:45] <arghx> wunnle: stop ssh and restart it
[17:45] <wunnle> arghx, i'm a newbie, show me the code.
[17:45] <arpd> wunnle: you could write a small script to check if it's still listening, and add that to your crontab
[17:45] <arghx> wunnle: you already have the "code"
[17:45] <wiredfool> or use autossh
[17:46] <wunnle> arghx, i only know ssh -fND
[17:46] <wunnle> wiredfool, what is autossh?
[17:46] <arghx> arpd: ~/.xsession* check that.
[17:46] <wiredfool> wunnle: it's something that keeps ssh connections up by restarting them if they go down
[17:46] <Pici> !info autossh
[17:46] <mickeymice> i have a laptop. 2 PC'S, and two phones an ipad etc all connected to the internet at home...i can ssh into some but i NEED to ping certain devices/pc's to see if theyre connect..how can i target my individaul devices/pc's to see if theyre up
[17:47] <arghx> mickeymice: ping them? I don't understand what the problem is
[17:48] <puff> mickeymice: Are you aware of the ping command?
[17:48] <wunnle> arghx, can you show me how to stop ssh?
[17:48] <puff> wunnle: Outgoing ssh?
[17:48] <arghx> wunnle: man killall
[17:48] <mickeymice> i want to ping certain pcs/devices on my network that simple
[17:48] <Bluetegu> Hello. I'm trying to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04. I'm following http://satisfy123.blog.com/2011/06/13/howto-downgrade-ubuntu-from-11-10-to-11-04/ . I need to set natty priority to 1001 in apt/preferences. Can someone help me with the exact lines I  need to add?
[17:48] <arghx> mickeymice: "ping <ip>". done
[17:48] <wunnle> arghx, thanks.
[17:48] <posciak> I accidentally removed the panel from menu bar that has battery indicator and other things, I can't find anything like that in the Add Panel list. How could I restore it please?
[17:48] <mickeymice> i can do it internally but how do i do that remotely (externally)
[17:48] <firelord42> wunnle: sudo service ssh restart
[17:49] <avn-matt> wunnle man ssh
[17:49] <firelord42> wunnle: i think it has a restart command, you can always do stop and then start
[17:49] <puff> wunnle: Try ctrl-c in the terminal window where ssh is running, or close that terminal window, or do "ps -ef | fgrep -i ssh", find the process ID column and do "kill sshPID", or do "killall ssh", which pretty much does the fgrep for you and kills every ssh process it can find.
[17:49] <puff> firelord42: That's only for sshd, which is for incoming ssh connections.
[17:49] <wunnle> thanks guys.
[17:49] <wunnle> have a good day.
[17:49] <firelord42> puff: i thought he had an issue with sshd?
[17:50] <firelord42> puff: where the port didnt clear so he could not reconnect
[17:50] <asingh> Hi
[17:50] <firelord42> puff: guess not, lol
[17:50] <asingh> anyone using yubikey?
[17:50] <puff> firelord42: Good question, he's far from unambiguous but his original question seemed to indicate he was having a problem with outgoing ssh.
[17:51] <gnx__> hi... do there are any form for restuary the apache 2
[17:51] <arghx> Bluetegu: this is a great way to reinstall your Ubuntu in the near future. good luck
[17:51] <arghx> gnx__: can you please restate your question?
[17:51] <puff> mickeymice: You can't, without reconfiguring your firewall to allow pings to get through (which isn't genreally recommended).
[17:51] <firelord42> gnx__: repository?
[17:51] <puff> mickeymice: Alternatively, you could ssh to a box inside the firewall, then ping devices from there.
[17:51] <arpd> arghx: just had a look through xssesion-errors; couldn't see anything that looked particularly bad, mostly warnings about pixmap; I'll upload it;
[17:51] <mickeymice> puff thats right ididnt think of that
[17:52] <arghx> arpd: was only a guess. you could start X via startx
[17:52] <puff> mickeymice: nosweat.
[17:52] <Bluetegu> arghx: I'm doing my best, do you know the lines I should add to preferences file?
[17:52] <arghx> arpd: that way you see directly all error messages
[17:52] <arpd> arghx: doesn't make a difference, i don't get any errors
[17:52] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all, I'm running 11.04. I installed xlockmore and launched that on my laptop, the screen started flashing between black and the xlockmore password prompt when I tried to go from a suspended state to xlockmore, but eventually it lets me type my password in. Now this is happening with gnome's xlock. :/
[17:52] <arghx> Bluetegu: downgrades are not supported.
[17:52] <avn-matt> Bluetegu follow that guide to the T, ref comment
[17:52] <avn-matt> #1
[17:53] <reisio> asingh: /msg ubottu !anyone :p
[17:53] <arpd> arghx: i think i need to find out why the unity support test is segfaulting when passed -p
[17:53] <arghx> avn-matt: it's a very very stupid idea to follow this "howto"
[17:53] <arghx> arpd: strace, debugger,...
[17:53] <arpd> forgot about strace.. brb
[17:54] <gnx__> what happens is that I can not start apache that I introduced when trying to configure the data poorly and now does not work
[17:54] <Bluetegu> avn-matt: thanks. Can you help with "add natty with priority 1001"
[17:54] <avn-matt> arghx he didnt ask if its a good idea or not.... hard to justify anything at this point with out knowing why
[17:54] <newB> Hi, is it possible to  change the look of Lubuntu to look like Ubuntu?  If yes....  How?
[17:55] <arghx> avn-matt: he said he wants to downgrade 11.10 to 11.04. that's all you need to know
[17:55] <arghx> newB: install ubuntu-desktop
[17:56] <john77> hi, all. just got a box with ubuntu 11.04 preloaded; the old box burned out but have a backup of my /home there.
[17:56] <arghx> !pm | gnx__
[17:56] <newB> arghx: thanks for the tips.
[17:57] <john77> on the old box i had crossover installed to run an acctg application called banana.
[17:57] <avn-matt> Bluetegu: Package: *
[17:57] <avn-matt> Pin: release n=natty
[17:57] <avn-matt> Pin-Priority: 900
[17:58] <Bluetegu> avn-matt: Super. Thanks much. I'll do that and pray...
[17:58] <john77> now i need to reinstall crossover onto this machine. question: do i have to first delete the 'old' crossover files?
[17:58] <avn-matt> Bluetegu - http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2011/06/20/linux-3-0-under-ubuntu-natty-11-04/
[17:59] <Bluetegu> avn-matt: Thanks. I'll take a ook.
[17:59] <avn-matt> Bluetegu: i'd just install .04 fresh if possible/probable
[17:59] <arghx> john77: you should ask crossover in their forum. it's their closed source app. how should ubuntu know hoe it works?
[18:00] <Aka> Hello
[18:00] <arghx> john77: WINE wouldn't care afaik and you had a backup if everything breaks anyways
[18:02] <Aka> so
[18:02] <john77> arghx:  do you mean i should just reinstall afresh without bothering to purge the 'imported' crossover files?
[18:02] <Aka> just curious how much luck people have had using likewise to join a windows domain
[18:02] <naftilos76> hi i did a clean install of ubuntu 11.10 and it hangs during power off. I have seen many similar references during googling. Does anyone have a fix?
[18:03] <Bluetegu> avn-matt: I have a dual windows and ubuntu boot. Now I need to install this over the 11.10 part. I'm not clear on the live cd which installation route I should take. If I select 'install alongside the existing os' it will not do what I want. I guess I should select the third option (something else) and assign the specific 11.10 partition to the new install.
[18:04] <avn-matt> Bluetegu, you could fix two problems and just get rid of windows :D all jokes aside what you said would be fine #3
[18:04] <avn-matt> arghx might have some better advice for you though...
[18:05] <arghx> john77: I said WINE has all settings in WINEPREFIX. and between the same WINE versions and different installations, this WINEPREFIX works everywhere
[18:06] <gnx__> there is
[18:06] <Bluetegu> avn-matt: I'll first try to downgrade and if it fails re-install. Many thanks.
[18:07] <gnx__> is there any chanall of speaker frech
[18:07] <arghx> !fr
[18:07] <luist> what package provides libsolid.so on oneiric???
[18:07] <naftilos76> hi i did a clean install of ubuntu 11.10 and it hangs during power off. I have seen many similar references during googling. Does anyone have a fix?
[18:08] <arghx> luist: either dpkg -S <path to file> if it's installed, or use packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file to see which package you need to install to get a certain file
[18:08] <DoctorD90> im back
[18:08] <Aka-noob> naftilos76 I have the same issue but for some reason it works fine if I hit restart
[18:08] <DoctorD90> arghx, some news?
[18:08] <Aka-noob> naftilos76 since I'm on a dual boot its kind of a non issue for me but I haven't managed to find a fix for it either
[18:10] <naftilos76> Aka-noob: If basic functionality is problematic then what the h*** are we talking about? Newer distros are supposed to be better not worse.
[18:10] <Aka> naftilos76 I was just pointing out that you aren't the only one with this issue
[18:11] <naftilos76> Aka: yes i know that. i am just hoping that they will fix this...
[18:12] <Aka> naftilos76 me too I'm waiting on an update It gets annoying having to restart and kill my laptop durring the post
[18:12] <arghx> naftilos76: ACPI is evil. and impossibel to always get right
[18:12] <Aka> LOL
[18:12] <khear> how do i see what graphics drivers i have in use currently?
[18:13] <luist> arghx: thiago: oh i found it now.. kdelibs5-dev :T
[18:13] <Ozik> hi there, got one question, I have ssh access to my server only. (ubuntu server 10.04) I want to do do fresh install or something similar, but as RAID 1 with mdadm, is it possible remote?
[18:13] <networkproblem> I can not join wpa or wpa2 networks with my wireless, I can join with my phone, it changed overnight.
[18:13] <arghx> khear: glxinfo |grep renderer  or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:13] <Aka> BRB gotta go make sure my vendors changes didn't mess up my shipping system
[18:13] <Aka> :D
[18:13] <khear> arghx: thanks
[18:14] <DoctorD90> Someone can help me????????....i use pasteubuntu too -.-
[18:14] <DoctorD90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/714394/
[18:14] <Pici> DoctorD90: Run sudo apt-get update
[18:15] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[18:16] <naftilos76> arghx: i am just frustrated that gnome-shell (which i am using) is at the point where KDE 4 was when it started. Maturity will take like for ever. Why didn't they just stay with gnome 2 and kernels <3. There is an unexplained tendency to make things more complex without any need for that. Why don't all developers concentrate on one distro? It will take a year to release a distro that rocks! I just don't get it...
[18:16] <reisio> concentration isn't the problem
[18:16] <reisio> people start things they don't have clear design goals for
[18:17] <reisio> and some people abandon goals
[18:17] <arghx> naftilos76: for the same reason why the kde people didn't stay with kde 3.5
[18:17] <starsinmypockets> Looking for the sshd log...
[18:17] <starsinmypockets> *whistles
[18:18] <arghx> starsinmypockets: /var/log
[18:18] <Pici> starsinmypockets: /var/log/auth.log, sshd doesn't run with debug mode for more verbose logging by default.
[18:18] <bob67> salut a tous
[18:18] <bob67> hie everybody
[18:19] <networkproblem> I can not join wpa or wpa2 networks with my wireless, I can join with my phone, it changed overnight. Anyone have a fix?
[18:19] <starsinmypockets> tnx
[18:20] <arghx> networkproblem: since we don't have enough information about what is wrong, we cannot have a fix
[18:21] <networkproblem> arghx: well, it wont join a wireless network with wpa or wpa2 encryption, it does see all networks, but keeps saying the password is wrong.
[18:21] <arghx> networkproblem: use wicd?
[18:22] <jcapinc> so, in gnome3 how are you supposed to minimize without right clicking a window?
[18:22] <Layke> Hit the down button
[18:22] <Layke> O wait, that's KDE.
[18:22] <Layke> Not sure on Gnome sorry.
[18:22] <jcapinc> they removed the button, which seems kind of foolish
[18:23] <aeon-ltd> jcapinc: 'win-M' maybe?
[18:23] <Layke> I set up a keyboard bind for control + alt + down
[18:23] <boutell> I installed php5-cgi and php5-mysql, but phpinfo() has no mysql or PDO support listed. /usr/bin/php5-cgi -m does not show them either. Please advise, thanks
[18:23] <Layke> Since I never used move to next workspace anyway
[18:23] <networkproblem> arghx: i have started the wicd daemon..
[18:23] <arghx> boutell: did you restart apache?
[18:24] <jaybutts> Anyone know a good guid program to manage ssh keys similiar to how I do in windows with pagaent
[18:24] <boutell> arghx: yes, it doesn't show up in those command line tests I mentioned either.
[18:24] <arghx> networkproblem: you need to do a bit more
[18:24] <jcapinc> there should be a way to
[18:24] <networkproblem> arghx: what? :)
[18:24] <arghx> boutell: grepu -r mysql /etc/apache2/*
[18:25] <arghx> networkproblem: run wicd-gtk
[18:25] <trijntje> Hi all, I want to change virtual desktop using mouse buttons. Where can I set this?
[18:25] <boutell> arghx: no mentions.
[18:25] <arghx> boutell: grep -r mysql /etc/apache2/*
[18:25] <boutell> do I have to explicitly enable pdo and mysql in php.ini? Maybe load them?
[18:25] <networkproblem> arghx: what is wrong with nm?
[18:25] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[18:26] <arghx> boutell: then grep -r mysql /etc/php5/*
[18:26] <l_l> #/join #speedcubers.de
[18:26] <Mion> boutell: you have to include the .so explictly yes
[18:26] <boutell> arghx: I did that.
[18:26] <boutell> Mion: thank you. Where?
[18:26] <arghx> networkproblem: it obviously doesn't work for you?
[18:26] <Mion> php.ini
[18:26] <networkproblem> arghx: well, it did for months and suddenly it wont..
[18:26] <arghx> boutell: debconf should have done this automatically for you
[18:26] <boutell> arghx: I know, that part is weird.
[18:27] <networkproblem> arghx: wicd require that I shut down nm?
[18:27] <Mion> extension=mysqli.so   extension=mysql.so
[18:27] <Mion> or whatever
[18:27] <boutell> Mion: right... under what heading
[18:27] <albertkopejkev> hi, got a 64 bit processor, 4 gig of ram, no special pc usage. should i choose 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:27] <Mion> no commented out examples already?
[18:27] <boutell> Mion: I went grepping for .so files associated with PHP and didn't find them so far, where do they live in ubuntuland
[18:27] <Mion> albertkopejkev: 64bit
[18:28] <trijntje> albertkopejkev: with 32 bit you will be able to use approx 3.5 G
[18:28] <arghx> boutell: dpkg -L <package>
[18:28] <albertkopejkev> k, thx
[18:28] <arghx> trijntje: ubuntu uses a PAE kernel by default
[18:28] <templet> my chromium-browser is set to opening a series of set webpages on startup.  instead, it gives me a new tab.  i do not know how to correct this.  thanks
[18:28] <templet> i'm using 10.04 LTS
[18:29] <Mion> pae == 0-15% performance penalty, and each process are still locked to 2gb of ram
[18:29] <boutell> arghx: AH. Thank you. I did see those but they wind up in such an odd place I thought they were leftovers from somebody's hand-compiled attempt.
[18:29] <trijntje> arghx: I'd never heart of that, thanks. But what are the ods that someones cpu supports PAE?
[18:30] <Mion> albertkopejkev: 32bit vs 64bit is about much more than just ram
[18:30] <Mion> trijntje: "all" do
[18:30] <albertkopejkev> ye, i wondered about that
[18:30] <albertkopejkev> used it about a year ago, gave me problems with codecs and stuff
[18:30] <albertkopejkev> is it that much more evolved?
[18:30] <crispinbluemanue> hi ive had to re partition disk but have access to old files. I am trying to find folder containing firefox bookmarks ne idea where they will be located eg media or mnt or etc whatever thanks
[18:30] <arghx> trijntje: 100% if it's a x86 64bit cpu
[18:31] <Mion> on most x86 systems, you get 2x the amount of registers, and double sized registers
[18:31] <forceflow> it's a bit sad that 8 years after consumer-level 64-bit hardware has arrived, drivers are still not up to par.
[18:31] <Mion> albertkopejkev: there isn't any problem wtih codecs on 64bit, and there wasn't 1 year ago either
[18:31] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[18:31] <arghx> Mion: which doesn't help you any except for few edge cases. for "normal" users, RAM is the only important thing
[18:31] <coreGrl> hi
[18:32] <coreGrl> how can I move the button bar on the bottom part of the monitor?
[18:32] <albertkopejkev> so, mion,  what's your guess, seems i'm not that into it, just want to use my pc ez pz and up to his potential.
[18:32] <Mion> albertkopejkev: really isn't any big downsides to go for 64bit these days
[18:33] <crispinbluemanue> ne idea where firefox stores bookmarks folder
[18:33] <albertkopejkev> k, that was probably my question, thank you Mion
[18:33] <trijntje> Mion, arghxk thanks
[18:33] <Mion> specially not now that we have nice things like this: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Log-x32-ABI-gets-around-64-bit-drawbacks-1342061.html
[18:33] <boutell> I now have this. I get the straight mysql extension, but php_mysql still is no joy:
[18:33] <DoctorD90> thx ^^
[18:33] <boutell> xtension_dir=/usr/lib/php5/20090626/
[18:33] <boutell> extension=pdo_mysql.so
[18:33] <boutell> extension=mysqli.so
[18:33] <boutell> extension=mysql.so
[18:33] <FloodBot1> boutell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <DoctorD90> resolved ^^
[18:34] <DoctorD90> bye ^^
[18:34] <crispinbluemanue> i have main folders showing eg dev sbin tmp usr srv selinux etc which one of these would have firefox bookmarks jason files or whatever
[18:34] <boutell> whoops, sorry about the flood
[18:34] <boutell> pdo_mysql.so does not appear to work. MySQL shows up but not PDO.
[18:34] <nixbox> hi all
[18:35] <reisio> hi
[18:35] <john77> arghx: didn't  understand the WINEPREFIX comment, but thanks anyway. I will purge everything and re-install afresh.
[18:35] <VCoolio> crispinbluemanue: ~/.mozilla/firefox/....default/places.sqlite
[18:35] <nixbox> can anybody explain why the context menu appears behind a window while using Unity on Ubuntu 11.10 in 2d mode? :S
[18:35] <llutz> arghx: "<arghx> trijntje: ubuntu uses a PAE kernel by default"           only with RAM-size >3G
[18:35] <crispinbluemanue> ta
[18:37] <moonunitzappa> Can anyone HELP me,  I just got 11.10 and dont want unity.  I want to the get "SYSTEM" menu back on top panel...anyideas?
[18:37] <wiredfool> !nounity
[18:38] <boutell> Mion & arghx: any thoughts on why I still can't load PDO although I can load the old non-PDO MySQL driver?
[18:38] <moonunitzappa> wiredfool, i have gnome shell, and i thought i had gnome panel,   i only have apps and places on my top panel though
[18:38] <Mrono> anyone know how to make winkey+L work to lock the screen
[18:40] <synroda> Hi all.
[18:41] <boutell> Mion & arghx: think I got it
[18:41] <Mrono> go away TTSDA
[18:41] <synroda> I have a problem. Before all was ok but now after reboot i got message from kernel that it doesn't detect vesfb.
[18:41] <TTSDA> :O
[18:42] <TTSDA> That was unespected
[18:42] <synroda> vesafb* I says "fatal error ... vesafb no such device and resolution of terminal very bad.
[18:42] <Mrono> lol
[18:42] <synroda> It*
[18:43] <devinus> are there still versions of ubuntu being made for PPC?
[18:43] <C_K_> hello
[18:43] <simple_user> I installed the python-qt4-doc package on my system for PyQt4 docs, but don't know how to access the docs.  Where are they located on my system (oneric)
[18:43] <genii-around> devinus: Not official ports, but there are community ports
[18:43] <devinus> damn
[18:43] <ghabit> Hello. If I had backports or purposed updates switched on, how I can switch it off and remove that updates?
[18:44] <devinus> genii-around: where about?
[18:44] <Guest71630> join #ubuntu-devel
[18:44] <C_K_> Hello i am trying to make a bootable ubuntu drive to install on my mac
[18:45] <C_K_> but i don't know how to use the terminal very well would anyone mind helping me?
[18:45] <genii-around> devinus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/ has up to 10.10
[18:45] <avn-matt> doctorZeus what you need help with? (assuming your doctord90 who msgd me
[18:47] <Mion> C_K_: you can use the fancy gui that unetbootin has
[18:47] <synroda> FATAL: Error inserting vesafb (/lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/kernel/drivers/video/vesafb.ko): No such device
[18:47] <synroda> This is the full message
[18:47] <_kad> hey quick question!! when i insert DVD the icon of CD/DVD disappear ! it works fine with windows why? thx
[18:48] <genii-around> !ppc > devinus
[18:48] <Mion> synroda: what gfx card?
[18:48] <C_K_> unetbootin?
[18:48] <synroda> vesa
[18:48] <Hetep> hola, am having problems with the mouse. It appears to be double clicking, etc.
[18:49] <orkaa> hi folks..
[18:49] <orkaa> i'm having this grub-probe problem that is supposed to be fixed
[18:49] <Hetep> has anybody else had similar experiences?
[18:49] <orkaa> root@maat:~# grub-probe --device /dev/md5
[18:49] <orkaa> grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem.
[18:49] <Pici> devinus: I'm not sure where the full images are, but there are netboot images available here: http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/oneiric/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/
[18:49] <orkaa> root@maat:~# file -s /dev/md5
[18:49] <synroda> Mion: What do you mean?
[18:49] <orkaa>  /dev/md5: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=553a08dd-f1a0-4378-9172-81f15783e0c1 (needs journal recovery)
[18:50] <Mion> synroda: what grafix card?
[18:50] <Mion> synroda: intel, amd, nvidia, what?
[18:51] <synroda> nvidia
[18:51] <B0g4r7> Hey, I got a dumb question.  I'm running postfix, and I got a couple messages stuck in the queue that show up when I run 'mailq'.  How can I clear them out?
[18:52] <jiltdil> why ubuntu uses its versions extention as *.4 & *.10 any reason?
[18:53] <melow01> Is it not allowed to place comments (#) in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:53] <B0g4r7> jiltdil, That's an effect of biannual release schedule.  April and October.
[18:53] <oCean> jiltdil: 04 = april, 10 = october
[18:53] <urthmover> There’s a very simple reason, actually: these aren’t version numbers, they’re dates. “10.04,” the Ubuntu version to be released this month, is so named because it is the fourth month of 2010 – 10.04. New versions of Ubuntu come out every six months, and the number structure always refers to the year and month of release. In October of this year, for example, will come 10.10.
[18:53] <lunitik> jiltdil: Ubuntu naming follows date constructs... it goes year.month, so .04 means april and .10 means october
[18:54] <reisio> which is useful because...
[18:54] <Krenair> telnet isn't accepting Ctrl+C...
[18:54] <lunitik> reisio: it isn't useful, it is just what they do... what is a better version construct?
[18:54] <jiltdil> oCean:Bog4r7: lunitik: Hm thanks guys i never think about that
[18:54] <reisio> lunitik: I like to start at 1, personally
[18:55] <lunitik> reisio: Why? It is even more meaningless
[18:55] <reisio> or 0
[18:55] <reisio> lunitik: more meaningless than not useful?
[18:55] <reisio> is that possible
[18:55] <C_K_> i am trying to convert a iso .img and this is what i am typing in
[18:55] <C_K_> Goodies$ hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/Users/Goodies/ubunutu.img ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:55] <C_K_> and it says failed no such directory
[18:55] <avn-matt> reisio it increments, with a direct ref to a timestamp what more do you need, lol?
[18:56] <Pici> Krenair: Press ctrl+]
[18:56] <Krenair> Pici: Prints ^]
[18:56] <lunitik> reisio: yes... at least with current versioning you know when the version was released, through standard versioning, you will have to look that up
[18:56] <reisio> avn-matt: how's the timestamp useful? :p
[18:56] <Krenair> Pici: Does not sigint
[18:57] <Pici> Krenair: does it give you the telnet> prompt?
[18:57] <Krenair> Pici: no
[18:57] <reisio> C_K_: I think the 11.10 images are supposed to be dd-ready
[18:57] <darkfalcon> Just installed 11.10 and like the classic desktop better. The only problem I have is that in classic, the workspace switcher does not highlight the currently active workspace. I have tried gnome-color-chooser and could not locate a setting which could change this. Is there a way to change the switcher to show the active desktop?
[18:57] <lunitik> reisio: Ubuntu is mostly about integrating bits from the wider community, only recently have they gone in their own direction on bits... it makes sense to date snapshots
[18:57] <Krenair> Pici: hm, running telnet without any arguments is okay
[18:57] <B0g4r7> C_K_, what if you run just 'hdiutil' with no args.  Same result?
[18:57] <Krenair> But when I specify host and port, it breaks
[18:58] <C_K_> i'm sorry i am a noob
[18:58] <B0g4r7> C_K_, Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't hdiutil an OS X program?
[18:58] <C_K_> ya
[18:58] <C_K_> i am trying to make a bootable usb in mac
[18:58] <jerknextdoor> is there a workaround for the empathy notifications not working?
[18:58] <C_K_> because the cd burner is broken
[18:59] <avn-matt> reisio perhaps by privoding a common ground of comfort for windowlian immigrants?
[18:59] <B0g4r7> C_K_, mmm...You might see if the graphical Disk Utility will write the image onto the USB stick for you.
[18:59] <C_K_> according to the ubuntu website this is what i have to do
[18:59] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:59] <mfilipe> is there any way to disable snap-window temporally?
[19:00] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, they have it for the mac as well
[19:00] <mfilipe> is there any way to disable snap-window temporally? something like hold a button to snap-window doesn't work
[19:00] <C_K_> thanks
[19:00] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, np
[19:01] <QuardezMarcoandF> hello
[19:01] <QuardezMarcoandF> !list
[19:02] <Hetep> what is the package called for mouse drivers?
[19:02] <jcook_5xdata> mfilipe, you maybe able to set a hot key to turn it off in compizconfig-settings-manager < Software center. look in the unity plugin
[19:03] <Max229> Why do I have two passwd files? (passwd and passwd~)?
[19:03] <hje841> any suggestions to how I can make the Caps lock key act as AltGr?
[19:04] <hje841> permanently
[19:04] <ynalok64> max229: passwd~ is a previous versin of passwd
[19:04] <Pici> Max229: Its a dash, not a ~, see man 5 passwd
[19:04] <Max229> ynalok64: Should I be worried about either?
[19:05] <ynalok64> whatever. it is all right I think.
[19:05] <synroda> Noone can help me?
[19:05] <Max229> Would updating Ubuntu to 11.10 from 11.04 explain why I got warnings on my passwd file changes and group file changes?
[19:05] <jerknextdoor> is any one else experiencing a problem with the "move to another workspace" and "always on visible workspace" not working at all?
[19:07] <bobweaver> Hi there How do I se all the commands that the bots use and is there source for them ?
[19:07] <bobweaver> !source
[19:07] <Pici> !bot | bobweaver
[19:07] <bobweaver> thanks Pici
[19:07] <bobweaver> :>)
[19:07] <Pici> !botclone | bobweaver
[19:08] <Pici> bobweaver: np
[19:08] <hje841> how do I permanently make the Caps Lock key act as the AltGr?
[19:10] <csgeek> I'm having essentially the same problem as:  http://serverfault.com/questions/321724/ubuntu-server-upgrade-over-ssh-hang
[19:10] <csgeek> anyone have any hints/suggestions?
[19:10] <luist> how do i get the information of my hardware like processor arch, speed and even energy consumption?
[19:10] <hje841> luist: try lspci
[19:10] <reisio> luist: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:10] <reisio> luist: or lshw
[19:10] <C_K_> unetbootin is telling me the file does not exist
[19:11] <C_K_> same thing the terminal told me
[19:11] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Hello? Is this the English (US) chat channel?
[19:11] <C_K_> but i am looking at it
[19:11] <trijntje> NewUbuntuDiscipl: yes
[19:11] <genii-around> NewUbuntuDiscipl: English of all varieties, including American, are spoken here.
[19:11] <Pici> NewUbuntuDiscipl: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. (english) If you're looking just for chat, theres #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:12] <luist> reisio: ooh that lshw is good… but looks hard to parse :)
[19:12] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Okay.
[19:12] <avn-matt> NewUbuntuDiscipl english seem to be spoken here
[19:12] <C_K_> Do you guys think 20g's for ubuntu is enough?
[19:13] <C_K_> if i just want to code with it
[19:13] <reisio> luist: gtk-lshw
[19:13] <luist> reisio: thanks again :)
[19:13] <reisio> C_K_: yup
[19:13] <C_K_> thanks
[19:13] <Narc> Hello everyone. Is anyone else having trouble to receive messages on MSN protocol with empathy on Oneiric ? Thanks...
[19:13] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> I'm looking for some help in installing Ubuntu on my ASUS Eee PC 1001PXD (Windows Starter pre-installed).  I don't want to delete windows and install Ubuntu over it, so I clicked on the "Something Else" button in the installation interface, but I don't know what to do next.
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Narc: yes
[19:13] <Anonymouse> test
[19:14] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> I've googled the topic, but nothing seeems helpful
[19:14] <reisio> NewUbuntuDiscipl: you'll have to resize the Windows partitions
[19:14] <reisio> NewUbuntuDiscipl: have you used the Windows install much yet?
[19:14] <B0g4r7> NewUbuntuDiscipl, The usual approach is to use gparted live to reduce the size of the windows partition.
[19:14] <Narc> MonkeyDust: Ok, thanks. Maybe Microsoft is fiddling with the protocols then...
[19:14] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Wubu?
[19:15] <Valligan> Bonsoir à tous !
[19:15] <Pici> !fr | Valligan
[19:15] <reisio> Valligan: agreed
[19:15] <brianl> How can i go about getting KDE on 11.10 64bit?
[19:16] <reisio> brianl: 1) install it
[19:16] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Hmmm....
[19:16] <brianl> lol
[19:16] <reisio> brianl: you want to stop using Unity/GNOME altogether?
[19:17] <jcook_5xdata> brianl, software center kde-desktop
[19:17] <B0g4r7> NewUbuntuDiscipl, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[19:17] <jcook_5xdata> or sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[19:17] <brianl> reisio, can i have both side by side?
[19:17] <C_K_> can ubuntu read any type of file
[19:17] <Max229> What is the nobody user? Do I need it?
[19:18] <reisio> brianl: yup
[19:18] <jcook_5xdata> brianl, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:18] <C_K_> whether it be from windows or mac?
[19:18] <Pici> Max229: Yes, you need it.
[19:18] <TheLastProject> B0g4r7: As far as I know Wubi is broken for 11.10; I got a random error last time I tried it and it wouldn't install Ubuntu 11.10
[19:18] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Naw, it's just that I don't want to delete Windows on my netbook, and I think Ubuntu wants me to partition my hard drive but I don't get get how and Linux's file extensions are unfamiliar to me.  Anybody got any suggestions or links to a website for instructions that I can read so I don't screw up my computer?
[19:18] <znow> anyone worked with capistrano on a ubuntu vm? ive upload my .ssh key from my home dir, etc... and when I try cap deploy:cold it says permission denied (public key) ?
[19:18] <Max229> Pici: What is it for?
[19:18] <Max229> !nobody
[19:18] <reisio> C_K_: it can read and write Mac filesystems, if that's what you mean
[19:18] <Pici> Max229: things that run that don't need access to anything.
[19:19] <Max229> Ah
[19:19] <mfilipe> jcook_5xdata, thanks, <Alt>Button2 (mouse scroll) solves my problem! :)
[19:19] <brianl> jcook_5xdata, thanks
[19:19] <jcook_5xdata> np
[19:19] <ex0> UNITY is more along the lines of A NON-UNION of desktop environment and user argument =\\
[19:19] <C_K_> Basically i am triple booting on my mac atm. And If i make a transition from mac to ubuntu i am wondering if i can store mac files onto a external drive and if ubuntu will read them
[19:20] <avn-matt> NewUbuntuDiscipl just burn a live cd and boot off that, wont install anything
[19:20] <reisio> ex0: I don't get the name, but it's mostly GNOME 3 AFAICT
[19:20] <avn-matt> ex0 explain further please :D
[19:20] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> I would, but I've got an ASUS Eee PC 1001PXD, so it's a netbook. =/ (don't have an external disk drive)
[19:21] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, you can use fat32 or ntfs if you want full cross platform. if you do not have it you will need to install ntfs-fuse on the mac
[19:21] <B0g4r7> heh.  I named my one computer Unity.  Then VMware came out with their Unity mode, and now there's Ubuntu's Unity...too much convergence on one name.
[19:21] <mingdao> I installed 11.10 and updated and installed gnome-shell from restricted ... I have logged out and logged back into Gnome, but when I restart it's back at Unity.
[19:21] <avn-matt> NewUbuntuDiscipl do the usb flash drive
[19:21] <B0g4r7> (and I run VMware and Ubuntu on this named system)
[19:21] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> I'm using a 4 GB Flashdrive right now.
[19:21] <mingdao> How do I make Gnome3 set across reboots?
[19:21] <C_K_> it thought mac could only read ntfs not write to it?
[19:22] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, with fuse it can read write
[19:22] <C_K_> and isn't fat32 restricted to only 4g's per file?
[19:22] <reisio> NewUbuntuDiscipl: you're booted from one right now?
[19:22] <C_K_> ic
[19:22] <avn-matt> NewUbuntuDiscipl check out the patriot usb drives
[19:22] <B0g4r7> C_K_, 2gb per file in my experience.
[19:22] <C_K_> thats a bummer
[19:22] <llutz> fat32 4GB filesizelimit, correct
[19:22] <C_K_> so ubuntu will read fat32 or ntfs?
[19:22] <reisio> no particularly reason you have to use it
[19:22] <reisio> C_K_: Linux reads and writes to more filesystems than any other OS
[19:22] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Well, I'm runnig 2 computers right now. My netbook is idle (that's the one I"m trying to install Ubuntu on) and I'm using my laptop for this IRC.
[19:23] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/
[19:23] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Yep, Llutz
[19:23] <guest-NAJYtL_> hello, tell me please, what is the reason: after upgrade to 11.10 I can't login as me, as a Guest is no problem...
[19:23] <B0g4r7> C_K_, Ubu can read/write fat32, and read ntfs.  I believe writing to ntfs is also possible, but it will not do this "out of the box".
[19:23] <reisio> C_K_: including all the popular ones Windows and Mac OS have used
[19:23] <C_K_> o
[19:23] <C_K_> ok*
[19:24] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> Away From Keyboard......
[19:24] <C_K_> and is there a way to extend the linux partition without deleting and reinstalling?
[19:24] <C_K_> if i ever want to take some space away from the windows partition and give it to ubunut
[19:24] <vfw> C_K_: Yes
[19:24] <jcook_5xdata> B0g4r7, nope it will write NTFS I do it all the time. a few years ago that was true
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> C_K_: gparted, but takes several hours, i tried it
[19:25] <lucas71> tell me please, what is the reason: after upgrade to 11.10 I can't login as me, as a Guest is no problem...
[19:25] <vfw> There are non-destrictutive partitioning tools, (such as gparted)
[19:25] <hacked_kernel> how to make Bash uses Tor  proxy ?
[19:25] <reisio> lucas71: what happens when you try?
[19:25] <reisio> hacked_kernel: bash doesn't really have use of one...
[19:25] <Ceno3x> Hi, I'd like to build some source packages to create a ppa. Is anyone familiar with this process?
[19:25] <C_K_> so theres no program that comes with ubuntu like the disk utility comes with mac/
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> C_K_: depends on what disk utility does
[19:26] <vfw> gparted normally does not take but a minute or two to extend size of a partition.
[19:26] <jpk> Hi, quick question: Is there a way to see which configure flags, or other build-time options, were used when a package maintainer built a package for ubuntu?
[19:26] <vfw> C_K_: gparted
[19:26] <hacked_kernel> reisio, what if i wanna use the shell through proxy?
[19:26] <C_K_> unetbootin just got done and it says it will not boot from a mac
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> vfw: it takes several if you don't want installed data to be erased
[19:26] <C_K_> says insert into a pc
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> several hours*
[19:27] <euh> hello
[19:27] <reisio> hacked_kernel: you tell me, what if you do?
[19:27] <vfw> MonkeyDust: Well, not several hours.  I've used it.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> me too
[19:27] <vfw> MonkeyDust: ... Maybe if  you have a really slow computer.
[19:27] <euh> is there a way to keep persistent the brightness level in unity ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:27] <lucas71> reisio, first I had only backgroud and small window of terminal, but now there is nothing - just background with window for logging - the same like I have wrong password, but password is correct
[19:27] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, did you install windows on bbotcamp?
[19:27] <mingdao> You need ntfs3g for *reliable* write ability with NTFS
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> vfw: my laptop is two years old
[19:28] <C_K_> no
[19:28] <NewUbuntuDiscipl> q
[19:28] <C_K_> i used disk utility to make two partitions for linux and windows
[19:28] <reisio> lucas71: ah
[19:28] <lucas71> reisio, but when I'm logging as a Guest  system X-server starts normally
[19:28] <reisio> lucas71: someone had that earlier, let me fetch it from my log
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> vfw: i think we're not talking about the same thing
[19:28] <C_K_> then reformatted one partition in windows then installed
[19:29] <vfw> C_K_: But it is best to not try and make changes to a live system.  You should use a USB or LiveCD.  See: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[19:29] <B0g4r7> C_K_, Disk Utility is also a destructive partitioning tool.  Use gparted to resize nondestructively.
[19:29] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[19:29] <synroda> What can I do with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/864803
[19:29] <lucas71> reisio, thank you very much, it's very importand for me, because I'll need computer tommorow :(
[19:29] <C_K_> i don't know what that means. but atm i am just trying to get ubuntu onto a flash drive
[19:30] <avn-matt> lucas resio has to do with gconf or something... remember seeing that yesterday, just have to remove those .<dir> conf files for shell
[19:30] <reisio> lucas71: it was a simple fix, IIRC, but I can't remember anything about it, except that it should be in my log somewheres
[19:30] <C_K_> i used unetbootin
[19:30] <C_K_> for mac
[19:30] <reisio> avn-matt: that does sound rightish
[19:30] <C_K_> and it says it will not boot from a mac
[19:30] <B0g4r7> C_K_, sorry, too many conversations.  Ignore my last statement.
[19:30] <lucas71> reisio. "IIRC"? what is mean?
[19:31] <reisio> if I remember correctly
[19:31] <reisio> long to type
[19:31] <avn-matt> reisio lucas71  rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel/
[19:31] <threexk> hello.  How do you remove the bar at the top in Gnome Fallback on 11.10?  Not sure what you call it, it has "File", "Edit", "View", etc.
[19:31] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation this is a older article but it should give you some help
[19:31] <reisio> like stewardesses
[19:31] <TEKLore1> Is it true that if i install Ubuntu my penis will grow an extra inch?
[19:31] <oCean> TEKLore1: stop that nonsense please
[19:31] <Zylum> it's true!
[19:31] <reisio> avn-matt: you cheater :p
[19:31] <avn-matt> reisio lucas71  gconftool-2 --shutdown
[19:32] <Valligan> How change my environement graphical ?
[19:32] <TEKLore1> :P sorry had too...just installed it on a friends laptop after winblows ..blew up... hehe he asked what made it speciall...i told him "that up there" haha he couldnt stop laughing
[19:32] <reisio> just lucas71 that needs it
[19:32] <TEKLore1> totally random :)
[19:32] <meddelaren> anyone get ubuntu desktop 11.10 to run as a vm on xenserver?
[19:32] <reisio> Valligan: to what?
[19:32] <threexk> TEKLore1: depends on how you manage your package
[19:32] <TEKLore1> lol
[19:32] <oCean> TEKLore1: it is called "Windows", please don't use silly misspellings
[19:32] <Valligan> I don't know i have KDE i think
[19:32] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, I remeber something about MACs will not boot from a USb becouse of the bios they use
[19:32] <TEKLore1> i have a package extender
[19:32] <Valligan> To put gnome
[19:32] <Valligan> for example
[19:32] <lucas71> reisio, avn-matt, can I do that from guest level?
[19:33] <euh> how to store permanently the brightness level for unity in 11.10 ?
[19:33] <C_K_> i installed lion from a usb
[19:33] <avn-matt> heh reisio spent like 3 hours yesterday trying to get a terminal window to pull up hhaha
[19:33] <B0g4r7> jcook_5xdata, True for older Macs.  The modern Intel macs should largely all support booting from USB.
[19:33] <threexk> What do you call the "File", "Edit", "View", "Go", "Bookmarks", "Help" bar at the top of the desktop?
[19:33] <C_K_> whats rEFIT for
[19:33] <mingdao> How can I keep the Gnome desktop from reverting to Unity when I reboot?
[19:33] <TEKLore1> oCean no i clearly remember it blowing up to BSoD so im correct...its Winblows....or z if your 733+
[19:33] <lahwran> I'm having a bit of an odd problem - I have a search domain set via nm-applet, and it works after initial connection, but now a few minutes later, it's mysteriously stopped working.
[19:33] <Valligan> I must disconnected for that ?
[19:33] <avn-matt> lucas71 ssh is where i ran it, i never do anything with guest, my guess is you cant sudo on a guest account but i could be wrong...
[19:33] <lahwran> anyone have any insight on such a problem?
[19:33] <reisio> avn-matt: who did? :p
[19:33] <threexk> mingdao: Set your session to Gnome for the user at the login screen.
[19:34] <oCean> TEKLore1: enough, last warning
[19:34] <C_K_> i would just burn ubuntut to a disk but the burner is broken
[19:34] <reisio> lucas71: log out, then CTRL+ALT+F2, do it from there
[19:34] <avn-matt> reisio 11.10 jacked up everything so bad i had a hybrid nautilus shell haha, all my shortcuts were gone
[19:34] <C_K_> so i need to make a bootable usb stick
[19:34] <Valligan> How change my graphical environement ?
[19:34] <reisio> lucas71: +F7 to get back
[19:34] <reisio> avn-matt: ah, sounds fun
[19:34] <lucas71> reisio, you're right...
[19:34] <avn-matt> i figured how to manual set a shortcut for gnome-terminal and when ran it brought up another nautilus window hahaha
[19:34] <Valligan> How change my graphical environement ?
[19:35] <B0g4r7> TEKLore1, if you wanna show your friend some specialness, 'sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager'.  Then run it and turn on "wobbly windows".
[19:35] <C_K_> and that link assume i have a boot cd
[19:35] <avn-matt> still jacked... but as long as i run gnome-shell i can see system aplications dashbar deal....
[19:35] <C_K_> like i said i need to use a usb stick or i can't install ubuntut
[19:35] <reisio> Valligan: to what?
[19:36] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html there one for mac down at the bottom
[19:36] <euh> C_K_, you can try to use unetbootin to create a bootable usb stick
[19:37] <mingdao> There is no login screen ... it boots directly to the desktop.
[19:37] <avn-matt> i would love to know why ubuntu thought unity was what i needed without a gfx card, did the same thing to 11.04 but was smart enough to enable the unity plugin where it recognized i didnt have a compatible card then switched to gnome...
[19:38] <B0g4r7> mingdao, open the "Login Screen" control panel to change your login options.
[19:38] <C_K_> euh, i did but it said it will not bot from a mac after it finished
[19:38] <curt> hey guys, i just installed a live ubuntu on a usb stick with unetbootin but when i sign in its asking for a login name and password. doesn anyone know how to bypass this or what the password is
[19:38] <TEKLore1> B0g4r7: ye i have that on my desktop, first time every one sees it they thing they are trippin
[19:38] <C_K_> so why does it even install on a mac if it does nothing?
[19:38] <moonunitzappa> Can I downgrade somehow or get rid of unity.  i want to go back to 11.04,  can i do that quickly with out losing any data?
[19:38] <dtigue> avn-matt: you can use lubuntu or aany other version, it's all "Ubuntu" but with a different desktop
[19:38] <avn-matt> but of course .10 removed half of the gnome dependencies and proceeded to try and run unity then default back to a broken gnome was quite enteratining
[19:39] <C_K_> i will try it just incase but i will brb
[19:39] <lsv> curt: try ubuntu
[19:39] <ex0> is it possible to make the stupid unity toolbar stay ontop??
[19:39] <escott> !downgrade | moonunitzappa
[19:39] <TEKLore1> moonunitzappa: downgrade is not possible
[19:40] <TEKLore1> moonunitzappa: whats the problem after upgrade?
[19:40] <Blinkiz> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu 11.10. My surround system is not working. In sound settings, I have chosen Surround 5.1. Pressing "Test Speakers" works but it is in the wrong order. For example, center speaker is right back speaker. How can I fix this?
[19:40] <joepaha> hey want to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 pushed the upgrade to 11.04 button in upgrade manage and am getting could not find release notes error HALP!!!
[19:40] <moonunitzappa> Can i get a TURE classic ubuntu on 11.10?    i have gnome panel but dont  have the "system" menu on top panel
[19:40] <moonunitzappa> TEKLore1, ^
[19:40] <fritsch> moonunitzappa: nope
[19:40] <avn-matt> moonunitzappa google that guide, its there, good luck having it not jack something up
[19:40] <JoshOvki> What file are the bootup logs kept in?
[19:40] <TEKLore1> moonunitzappa: should be selection at login
[19:40] <B0g4r7> Yeah, Unity is the reason I will likely not be upgrading to oneric.
[19:41] <avn-matt> joepaha stick with 11.04
[19:41] <moonunitzappa> avn-matt,  ive look at a bunch of guides
[19:41] <joepaha> not on 11.04 on 10.10
[19:41] <euh> is there a way to keep the brithness level of the screen persistent in unity 11.10 ?
[19:41] <joepaha> want to go to 11.04 and then 11.10
[19:41] <avn-matt> moonunitzappa man apt_preferences
[19:41] <avn-matt> im saying just goto 11.04
[19:41] <moonunitzappa> TEKLore1, im in "GNOME CLASSIC"  but i only have the app/places menu  i dont have systems one
[19:41] <joepaha> great
[19:42] <avn-matt> if you do the .04 to .10 you are going to be fighting issues
[19:42] <avn-matt> or fresh install .10
[19:42] <moonunitzappa> I want to go back to 11.04 but would hate do waste all that time and reconfig everything
[19:42] <reddexx> ist k1x da?
[19:42] <lsv> something weird happend to my terminal.  The terminal used to be transparent and you could see the icons on the desktop, but now they do not appear it only shows the background picture.  Any idea how to fix that?
[19:42] <Zylum> moonunitzappa, try typing alacarte in terminal and make sure system is checked
[19:42] <Pici> !de | reddexx
[19:42] <blsh0p> how can you get rid of the limit on how big you can make an icon on the desktop? I want to make the icon much bigger than it lets me. How would i do that?
[19:42] <TEKLore1> i love backtrack terminal
[19:42] <TEKLore1> verry cool
[19:43] <euh> ok, i give up, good luck
[19:43] <joepaha> when i use  update-manager and click upgrade to 11.04 I get an error that says "could not find release notes"!!
[19:43] <DrMax_> yo. Where are the user-specific wpa_supplicant info stored ?
[19:43] <moonunitzappa> dont see systems Zylum where sould i look
[19:43] <denysonique_x> Hi
[19:43] <lsv> TEKLore1: it is working like that (like the terminal in BT) but before it show what was on the Desktop not the desktop picture.
[19:43] <jcook_5xdata> the more i try gnome3 and unity the more i like unity that much more
[19:43] <mingdao> B0g4r7: I'm installing irssi on the Ubuntu box ... I don't see that.
[19:44] <C_K_> okk
[19:44] <Zylum> moonunitzappa,  should be in the left column at the bottom
[19:44] <blsh0p> how can you get rid of the limit on how big you can make an icon on the desktop? I want to make the icon much bigger than it lets me. How would i do that?
[19:44] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, did it work
[19:44] <C_K_> so i am following the directions on ubuntu.com on how to make a flash drive
[19:44] <C_K_> n
[19:44] <C_K_> no
[19:44] <denysonique_x> On Ubuntu (gnome) 10.04 Basket Notes(Qt) is rendered with Qt style. Skype, Virtualbox, these Qt apps look ok in Gnome. How can I fix this, make Basket Notes look GTKIsh?
[19:44] <C_K_> and it says to convert the.iso to .img with the terminal
[19:45] <lsv> I'm pretty sure there is a configuration file somewhere, does anyone know where?
[19:45] <C_K_> hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.isohdiutil: convert failed - No such file or directory
[19:45] <jcook_5xdata> did you try it in boot camp That where you will need to install if I remember right
[19:45] <moonunitzappa> Zylum, I only have APPS menu
[19:45] <TEKLore1> ok good i get a nice solid PHY connected light in release mode now.. no flickering
[19:45] <moonunitzappa> do not see system
[19:45] <TEKLore1> bahh ops
[19:45] <Zylum> moonunitzappa, when you click on system in the left column, make sure 'preferences' and 'administration' are checked, if not then system won't appear in your menu
[19:45] <C_K_> isn't the linux.img the file i am creating?
[19:45] <C_K_> i think boot camp is only for windows
[19:46] <lucas71> reisio, avn-matt, both of commends (rm -rf........ and gconftool-2....) without result
[19:46] <moonunitzappa> dont have it at all, Zylum , when i close the APPlications tree there is nothing else
[19:46] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img  -i ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:46] <lucas71> it;'s still the same
[19:46] <avn-matt> C_K_ i havnt checked the guide, but my guess is you need to ref the file as it exists, not the just new name (ext)
[19:46] <jcook_5xdata> C_you for got the in
[19:46] <zx81_> hi
[19:46] <catphish_> does ubuntu have additional packages for optional kernel modules? 'aoe' seems to be missing from my installation even though its defined as a module i the kernel config
[19:46] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, you for got the in
[19:46] <C_K_> the in?
[19:47] <mingdao_ubuntu> B0g4r7: can you tell me where to find this control panel?
[19:47] <jcook_5xdata> -i for the file you need a in to make an out
[19:47] <Zylum> moonunitzappa, that is weird, what distro are you using?
[19:47] <zx81_> i search to connect a  hard disk usb ?? its not on my nautilus,,
[19:47] <C_K_> hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img  -i ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:47] <C_K_> hdiutil: convert: unknown option "-i"
[19:47] <moonunitzappa> just upgraded to 11.10 Zylum
[19:47] <moonunitzappa> which i regret
[19:47] <joepaha> anyone ever see a "could not find the release notese server maybe overloade" error from update-manager when trying to upgrde to 11.04 from 10.10?
[19:48] <moonunitzappa> but im using gnome panel right now Zylum
[19:48] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, my bad that they just rename dd
[19:48] <zx81_> is there a trick ( a command , a packet , to add  for usb hdd )
[19:48] <avn-matt> lucas71 http://askubuntu.com/questions/41/resetting-gnome-panel
[19:48] <B0g4r7> mingdao, for me in Clasic it's in System/Administration.  In Unity it should come up if you type "Login" into the stupid launcher thing.
[19:48] <C_K_> rename dd
[19:48] <lucas71> reisio, avn-matt maby I didn't understandt something - my english is not so good...
[19:48] <C_K_> ?
[19:48] <random42> hi, I just downloaded Anonymous Pro font, and it font size >= 11 (sub pixel smoothing aka cleartype is enabled) but when I go below font size 11, its all pixelated and font smoothing doesn't seem to work on this one
[19:49] <Zylum> moonunitzappa, ok let's see if you can get it by... right clicking on your panel and select, 'add to panel' then add 'main menu' ...that should have system in it
[19:49] <random42> ... and for* font sizes* >= 11 ...
[19:49] <Belgicano> Hi all, anyone has an idea as why my FF7 sometimes starts eating one core to a 100% for a while then drops back? I cannot link it to a specific action or event...
[19:49] <B0g4r7> C_K_, your paths are wrong.
[19:49] <B0g4r7> C_K_, The leading tilde implies your home directory.  You are using a leading tilde, while also speciying a full absolute path.
[19:49] <bignono1> in 11.10 workspace switcher , it only splits the screen to 4 squares , how can i use them?
[19:49] <blsh0p> how can you get rid of the limit on how big you can make an icon on the desktop? I want to make the icon much bigger than it lets me. How would i do that?
[19:50] <B0g4r7> C_K_, Try without the tildes.
[19:50] <dweez> You don't use -i in hdiutil convert
[19:50] <avn-matt> bignono1 click on the square which isn't highlighted
[19:50] <random42> I am not sure if subpixel smoothing is working for this font
[19:50] <zx81_> ### usb hdd conect : is there a "trick " anything to load in synaptic ???? to connect usb hdd ""
[19:50] <alexxio_> hi
[19:50] <moonunitzappa> Zylum, nope, same thing.  even when i rightclick the icon and add menus, same as before, no system
[19:50] <C_K_> hi dweez
[19:50] <dweez> hey C_K_
[19:50] <zx81_> hi alexxio
[19:50] <C_K_> you are from demonoid
[19:50] <Tigerboy> Hello-- have an i7 with nvidia driver and tried to install lmde which gave me a "maze" like graphic screen at which point it froze-- so I used nomodeset to get it to install-- but then now it does the same thing when I try to boot the system. It ends in a maze graphic.
[19:50] <alexxio_> my microphone is working only with gtalk and not with other applications
[19:50] <dweez> I know this
[19:50] <bignono1> thanks avn-matt
[19:50] <C_K_> what a small world
[19:50] <avn-matt> zx81_ what entry shows up in dmesg when you connect
[19:50] <alexxio_> is there a way to understand why?
[19:50] <mingdao_ubuntu> B0g4r7: don't even have any System Administration ... System Settings has User Accounts but nothing in there.
[19:51] <lucas71> avn-matt, I have problem with gnome panel? not with logging? I'm just asking...
[19:51] <C_K_> anyone ok i will try without the ~
[19:51] <mingdao_ubuntu> B0g4r7: maybe I should change automatic logon to no and get something then
[19:51] <C_K_> anyway*
[19:51] <dweez> C_K_, don't just try it without the ~
[19:51] <dweez> ~ is a "shortcut" to /home/<username>/
[19:51] <moonunitzappa> ill just stick with this for a bit and reinstall 11.04 Zylum
[19:51] <zx81_> avn-matt thx, when is connect : msg Cypress esmiconductor usb2.0 Storage "reconnu"
[19:51] <dweez> give the absolute path, which is what I was trying to get you to find over in dem
[19:51] <B0g4r7> dweez, or /Users/<username>/ on OS X.
[19:51] <avn-matt> lucas71 create a new user and login, does everything appear correct?
[19:52] <dweez> B0g4r7, ah
[19:52] <dweez> my OS X vm is messed up right now so I couldn't check
[19:52] <C_K_> ./Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:52] <C_K_> that?
[19:52] <B0g4r7> C_K_, no leading period either.  Lead with the forward slash.
[19:52] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[19:53] <C_K_> ya i had to do that to display it here
[19:53] <Belgicano> Hi all, anyone has an idea as why my FF7 sometimes starts eating one core to a 100% for a while then drops back? I cannot link it to a specific action or event...
[19:53] <C_K_> hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img  ~/Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.is
[19:53] <catphish_> ah, the kernel-image-virtual seems to be missing some modules :(
[19:53] <mingdao> Belgicano: issue "top" and see what's consuming your core
[19:53] <avn-matt> Belgicano final fantasy 7?
[19:53] <C_K_> so whats wrong with that
[19:53] <B0g4r7> C_K_, take out both tildes.
[19:53] <Belgicano> nope, firefox 7
[19:53] <mingdao> Belgicano: my money's on plugin-container
[19:53] <C_K_> same error
[19:54] <dweez> hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o /Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img  /Users/Goodies/Desktop/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:54] <B0g4r7> C_K_, is "Goodies" your username?
[19:54] <dweez> ^^^ did you try that?
[19:54] <avn-matt> Belgicano have you tried opera?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> Belgicano?
[19:54] <luz> I have a ubuntu/windows pc
[19:54] <Belgicano> well, i never see plugin container popping up the listr...
[19:54] <random42> hmmm.. anyone interested in font smoothing NOT working ?
[19:54] <luz> windows crashed and I need to reinstall
[19:54] <C_K_> 3> dweez
[19:54] <C_K_> thanks everyone for your help
[19:54] <luz> how can I do this keeping ubuntu?
[19:54] <C_K_> now lets see how far i can get
[19:54] <zx81_> avn-matt i have change of HDD is the same result
[19:55] <dweez> C_K_, so it finally worked?
[19:55] <C_K_> ya
[19:55] <avn-matt> zx81_ what is your native language?
[19:55] <dweez> cool
[19:55] <zx81_> french
[19:55] <C_K_> ya@
[19:55] <lucas71> avn-matt, at new user everything looks ok, X-server starts normally
[19:55] <kasansweat> So, let's say I'd like to remove Gnome3 and Unity from my life because they are a humongous step backwards. I'm thinking the options are 1) revert to 11.04, 2) Go for Xubuntu (and not Lubuntu because it seems to have some gnomey stuff in it) or 3) Go for a non *buntu. Any suggestions?
[19:55] <avn-matt> can somone help zx81_ find the correct ubuntu help channel for french?
[19:55] <Belgicano> avn-matt: i like FF, and it's just been annoying me for a little while so i'll try to stay with it...
[19:56] <zx81_> yes
[19:56] <lucas71> but my account looks like I have wrong password
[19:56] <C_K_> I now have a .dmg unbent file
[19:56] <C_K_> ubuntu file
[19:56] <oCean> !fr | zx81_
[19:56] <zx81_> ok thx
[19:56] <B0g4r7> kasansweat, I would go with option 1 myself.
[19:56] <avn-matt> Belgicano i have been doing a start private broswer in firefox when i am going to idle
[19:56] <Belgicano> mingdao: how come plugin-container never appears in top...
[19:56] <avn-matt> then come back and leave private browsing
[19:56] <avn-matt> and it doesnt eat away memory
[19:57] <nosmelc> I installed 11.10 on a new drive in a laptop.  It hung at the end of the install at that "requesting all processes shut down."  It seems to shut down OK now.  Is that anything to worry about?
[19:57] <kasansweat> B0g4r7: wow your name is a pain to write out :)  -- and do you think the packages in 11.04 will still be usable/updatable?
[19:57] <AaronDCampbell> I have some flac files that are too quiet.  with an MP3 I pass it through mp3gain to fix this.  Is there something I can do for the flac files?  Preferably something command line
[19:57] <avn-matt> for me if i leave a youtube window open in ff it will be freaking out when i get back hehe... Belgicano
[19:57] <Belgicano> avn-matt: the problem is not the memory, the cpu goes crazy on one core then goes quiet agzin...
[19:57] <B0g4r7> Hopefully the ppl who decided that Unity should be the only UI choice will come to their senses and we will have a viable upgrade path in the future.
[19:58] <B0g4r7> kasansweat, Yeah, I still use 10.04 on one system and don't have compatibility issues.
[19:58] <mingdao> Belgicano: top should tell you what's leeching your CPU whether it's plugin-container or whatever else
[19:58] <avn-matt> yeah, my dual core pentium pro 200 is running freebsd, so i have no idea.... :D
[19:58] <darkfears> using ubuntu 11.10, cannot see my USB HD, disk utility doesnt seem to see it either
[19:58] <C_K_> so
[19:58] <kasansweat> Right. I'm actually an avid Awesome WM user -- 11.04 and below play fine with it, but 11.10 has wreaked havoc.
[19:58] <C_K_> now that it's a .img
[19:58] <luz> my windows installation crashed, how can I reinstall keeping ubuntu?
[19:59] <C_K_> do i need to do all these steps in terminal or can i format it and copy paste the file into the drive?
[19:59] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, check the webup8.org link I sent and use the dd
[19:59] <mingdao> luz: reinstall Windoze where it belongs, then use a LiveCD to boot into Ubuntu and fix grub
[19:59] <kasansweat> luz: the only issue you're likely to have is that you'll have to reinstall grub
[19:59] <avn-matt> mingdao do you need to build ff with a special arg perhaps for the threading?
[19:59] <mingdao> luz: or you might be able to boot with ntldr ;)
[19:59] <mingdao> you hacker you ....
[19:59] <luz> is it easy to reinstall grub?
[19:59] <B0g4r7> C_K_, I would expect that you will need to follow the guide in order to properly write it to the USB media.
[20:00] <vfw> luz: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[20:00] <mingdao> avn-matt: I've never really used Ubuntu ... just installed it on a computer to display hoping customers will buy it over Windoze ... and I detest that Unity DE ;)
[20:00] <B0g4r7> I like to keep a copy of "Super GRUB Disc" around for those situations.
[20:00] <avn-matt> lucas71 i think that demonstrates we just need to get rid of those conf's for your profile... there was a different post somewhere out there depicting your exact issue, somewhere around the lines of 11.04 to 11.10 can only login as guest
[20:00] <Belgicano> mingdao: the process going crazy is "firefox"
[20:00] <reisio> luz: yes, don't let the length of that document fool you :)
[20:01] <Belgicano> mingdao: no plugin-container to be seen in the list...
[20:01] <luz> I installed from a usb
[20:01] <mingdao> Belgicano: there is some new flag for FF but I haven't used it in <other distro> nor needed to do so
[20:01] <nosmelc> I installed 11.10 on a new drive in a laptop.  It hung at the end of the install at that "requesting all processes end."  It seems to shut down OK now.  Is that anything to worry about?
[20:01] <mingdao> Belgicano: let me look and see what it's called
[20:01] <oCean> mingdao: it's called "Windows", please don't use silly misspellings
[20:01] <C_K_> jcook what was the think
[20:01] <lucas71> avn-matt, have yu any idea of way we can do that?
[20:01] <C_K_> link
[20:01] <C_K_> and what is dd?
[20:01] <B0g4r7> nosmelc, it's probably fine.
[20:01] <avn-matt> Belgicano see if there are any build args for hyper threading support for ff...  just a guess
[20:01] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[20:01] <reisio> mingdao: pgo?
[20:02] <superfirelord42> nosmelc: sounds normal, does it boot into ubuntu?
[20:02] <lucas71> avn-matt, not ONLY as a guest - as a new user is ok
[20:02] <nosmelc> superfirelord42: yes boots into Ubuntu, works fine, and shuts down OK
[20:02] <avn-matt> lucas71 just google around it, i saw it yesterday with a different issue during an 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade
[20:02] <firelord42> nosmelc: your fine, enjoy 11.10
[20:02] <avn-matt> lucas71 my search term was something around "ubuntu 11.10 file edit view go bookmarks"
[20:03] <lucas71> avn-matt, but I have no idea what kind of question write in google.. :(
[20:03] <avn-matt> see if u can get lucky hehe
[20:03] <popsch> how can I boot from a CD but use the root fs from /dev/sda5?
[20:03] <lucas71> :)
[20:03] <avn-matt> lucas71 follow the one guide i sent you to the T
[20:03] <Belgicano> avn-matt: I hope it doesnt start eating my quadcores together once i enable the threading...
[20:03] <B0g4r7> popsch, use kernel boot arg "root=/dev/sda5"
[20:03] <llutz> popsch: cd with grub? edit grub-commandline/parameter setting root=xxx
[20:03] <Zylum> Here is something I can't figure out:  every time I stop playback in banshee, vlc player, or any youtube video, my screen blanks out for  few seconds and then comes back... anyone encountered this before?  I'm still using natty
[20:03] <firelord42> popsch: boot teh live cd from that partition or the install from that partition?
[20:04] <C_K_> i am using the .img file and putting it on the drive
[20:04] <C_K_> will it work this time?
[20:04] <popsch> I'll try. the problem is that the machine doesn't boot anymore
[20:04] <AaronDCampbell> I have some flac files that are too quiet. With an MP3 I pass it through mp3gain to fix this. Is there something I can do for the flac files?  Preferably something command line so I can run it on a whole directory of files.
[20:04] <popsch> I did boot with the live CD and the rootFS seems clean
[20:04] <avn-matt> Belgicano so i was right? niiiice.
[20:04] <artvandalay> anyone seen this error when i run modprobe lirc_dev ?  WARNING: Failed to open config file fglrx.conf: No such file or directory
[20:04] <B0g4r7> popsch, It will need to be the same kernel version if you need modules to work.
[20:04] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: you should just tell your player to play them louder
[20:04] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: sort of defeats the purpose of FLAC to modify them
[20:04] <popsch> B0g4r7, well, then it won't work, right?
[20:05] <firelord42> popsch: how far does it get when you try to boot without cd? do you see the bootloader?
[20:05] <avn-matt> lucas71 reboot after u do that, or restart x (alt backspace maybe? i forget someone here can help)
[20:05] <AaronDCampbell> reisio: the problem is that I want to burn them to CD and in the car or home player the volume is MAXED just to hear the guy talk.
[20:05] <popsch> firelord42, no, it doesn't do anything. just a black screen
[20:05] <wunnle> hey
[20:05] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: oh okay, copies
[20:05] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: there's an app, normalize
[20:05] <popsch> firelord42, but booting from the CD works fine (I rescued the data)
[20:05] <B0g4r7> popsch, if you hold down shift during boot, will it bring up the rub menu?
[20:05] <B0g4r7> grub
[20:06] <Belgicano> avn-matt: soy for being a joy-breaker but... not yet, I'm still looking for it...
[20:06] <wunnle> how can i mount a partition automatically on startup?
[20:06] <avn-matt> Belgicano I'd be more worried about it stressing at 100% with a program that is notorious for memory hogging
[20:06] <llutz> wunnle: add it to /etc/fstab
[20:06] <lucas71> avn-matt, what mean your words: "...to the T"? what is the "T" ?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> wunnle: bij adding it in fs
[20:06] <popsch> Will try. the machine is 8000 miles away from me. I need to convince my parents to press the button and then tell me what they see :-(
[20:06] <Zylum> Here is something I can't figure out:  every time I stop playback in banshee, vlc player, or any youtube video, my screen blanks out for  few seconds and then comes back... anyone encountered this before?  I'm still using natty
[20:06] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: normalize-audio in Ubuntu
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> wunnle: bij adding it in fstab
[20:06] <C_K_> when installing  ubtuntu do i need to partition "swap space"
[20:06] <AaronDCampbell> reisio: Thanks.  I'll check it out
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> AaronDCampbell, flac uses metadata to store rg stuff, so your player must also support that
[20:06] <aef> hi, i installed my system with en_US, because i like the language being english. but i would like measurements, monetary, number and date formating to be in german. how can i accomplish this?
[20:06] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: and you want the --peak param, IIRC
[20:07] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: "Each file will be adjusted so that its maximum sample is at full scale."
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> AaronDCampbell, for cds you could use something that operates on pcm files directly, like wavegain
[20:07] <wunnle> llutz, i'm a über-newbie. i don't know what /etc/fstab means.
[20:07] <curt> hey guys, im trying to recover data from a system that wont boot. i booted into puppylinux on a thumb drive and tried to mount the drive in question. it didnt work. anything else i can do?
[20:07] <avn-matt> lucas71 It means to just follow them in order as directed
[20:07] <firelord42> popsch: you probably just need to reinstall the bootloader, i just do not know any nice graphical ways to do that off the top of my head
[20:07] <firelord42> curt: try a fsck on the drive?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> wunnle: in terminal, typ cat /etc/fstab
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> AaronDCampbell, p.s. the current fashion is ebu r128 btw
[20:07] <llutz> wunnle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[20:08] <curt> firelord42, explain please. what would i do?
[20:08] <brontosaurusrex> AaronDCampbell, on win, the usual easy to use batch utility is foobar2000, i heard it works fine via wine as well
[20:09] <Belgicano> avn-matt: luckily it's not, what "worries" me is that i've yet to hear about someone else having that problem...
[20:09] <popsch> it would be cool, if ubuntu would easily allow one to have a 100MB puppylinux image that can be booted in case something goes wrong
[20:09] <reisio> popsch: doesn't it put a 'rescue' item in your GRUB list?
[20:09] <jcook_5xdata> C_K_, only if you are doing "Some Else" then yes. else if not I would not worries about it the software will do it for you
[20:10] <popsch> reisio, will see what my parents say
[20:10] <avn-matt> Belgicano from ver 9 - If you are running a pentium machine with hyper-threading, turn the hyper-threading off in the machine's bios. Having had the same problem you are reporting on two machines, this has fixed the firefox issues on both of them.
[20:10] <curt> firelord42, could you explain how to fsck? the drive?
[20:10] <C_K_> ok thanks
[20:10] <firelord42> curt: do you know what fstype the drive is using and your partition layout?
[20:10] <AaronDCampbell> reisio: It seems that normalize-audio doesn't support flac: unrecognized audio file format
[20:11] <Andrew_Cooper> I've upgraded to 11.10 and have run into the problem that my wireless connection keeps dropping.  I've read online about the problem and made the changes that I've seen suggested.  I've changed my MTU to 1500 and set the IPv6 to ignore.  I'm still experiencing the problem.  I'm using WPA and DHCP.  Does anyone know a fix for this problem.  It's a real pain.
[20:11] <reisio> AaronDCampbell: well you have to convert to WAV for putting on an audio CD anyways
[20:11] <netsa> where gnome-open takes the settings for specific URI in 11.04?
[20:11] <Belgicano> avn-matt: so we're at "hardware" has to adapt to "software", not good...
[20:11] <curt> firelord42, no i have no idea really. could you help?
[20:11] <RodneyJarvis> Andrew_Cooper: I've seen that in a few other distros... How often does it drop?
[20:12] <luz> I have a 8.10 cd
[20:12] <luz> I wonder if I can use that
[20:12] <artvandalay> anyone seen this error when i run modprobe lirc_dev ?  WARNING: Failed to open config file fglrx.conf: No such file or directory
[20:12] <csgeek> I need to force the re-install of all KDE packages, but when I try install kubuntu-desktop it says its already installed..
[20:12] <csgeek> how do I get all the packages associated with kubuntu-desktop and have it re-install all of 'em?
[20:12] <luz> my current ubuntu is 11.04
[20:12] <avn-matt> Belgicano heh, opera sounding better yet? do a /proc/cpuinfo for me
[20:12] <Andrew_Cooper> Every 10-30 minutes.  It's not completely consistent but it doesn't generally take terribly long.
[20:12] <jcook_5xdata> csgeek, in term sudo apt-get install kde-desktop --reinstall
[20:12] <csgeek> thanks
[20:12] <Andrew_Cooper> RodneyJarvis: Every 10-30 minutes.  It's not completely consistent but it doesn't generally take terribly long.
[20:13] <Joelito> Anyone has equinox ppa enabled in lucid?
[20:13] <mingdao> Belgicano: the Firefox flag is pgo ... hope someone can help you with that, I've got work to do atm ... sorry
[20:13] <firelord42> curt: try fdisk -l /dev/sda and look for one with an 83 as the type
[20:13] <popsch> great. there's a grub menu
[20:13] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[20:13] <firelord42> curt: you have to run it as root, so you may need to add a sudo in front
[20:13] <Joelito> I have gpg error, and yes added the repo with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tiheum/equinox
[20:13] <niranjan> Hey folks, how do I log out from command prompt?
[20:13] <csgeek> jcook_5xdata:   uhmm.. --reinstall only installs the package, not all the subpackages.
[20:13] <devinus> has anybody else experienced plymouth splash being ugly after installing proprietary drivers?
[20:13] <CharminTheMoose> niranjan, type 'exit'?
[20:13] <mingdao> Andrew_Cooper: do you have a channel conflict in your router?
[20:14] <curt> firelord42, ok and from there? i have to swap out my hard drive so id like to know what i have ot do before i swap it in and try
[20:14] <niranjan> Want to log out - I opened the terminal using Ctrl-Alt-T in unity
[20:14] <mingdao> Andrew_Cooper: wireless phones and such will usually use channel 1 ... move your wifi nic up to channel 11 or such
[20:14] <RodneyJarvis> Andrew_Cooper: Okay that's way better than what I'm seeing on a machine I have right now.
[20:14] <Belgicano> avn-matt: is "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 460  @ 2.53GHz" enough or do you need the whole thing?
[20:14] <niranjan> Not exit out of terminal
[20:14] <Andrew_Cooper> mingdao:  Good question.  I'll check.
[20:15] <RodneyJarvis> RodneyJarvis: I don't think I can help then.
[20:15] <CharminTheMoose> niranjan, hmm logout from terminal.. 'logout' does nothing?
[20:15] <mingdao> Andrew_Cooper: might not be the issue but you should get up there away from such devices, other APs in range, etc
[20:15] <firelord42> curt: well that will tell us which drive is likely your linux, from there you need to run fsck.FSTYPE /dev/sdaX or something similar, substituting FSTYPE for your fs
[20:15] <B0g4r7> niranjan, logout from gnome, or do you mean reboot?
[20:15] <RodneyJarvis> Andrew_Cooper: I don't think I can help then...
[20:15] <jcook_5xdata> csgeek, what version
[20:15] <RodneyJarvis> lol...
[20:15] <csgeek> 11.10
[20:15] <avn-matt> Belgicano ref mingdao - http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-887296-start-0.html
[20:15] <firelord42> curt: unless your hdd has failed, not merely corrupted
[20:15] <Andrew_Cooper> RodneyJarvis: It'll stay on for a little bit if I restart the computer but I don't want to restart every 10-30 minutes.
[20:15] <Belgicano> mingdao: thanks, at least i've got something new to investigate...
[20:16] <curt> firelord, ok ill try to find the drive and then come back and we can figure it from there. im pretty sure the drive is jsut corrupt, not failed
[20:16] <niranjan> B0g4r7: Logout from gnome
[20:16] <curt> firelord42, back in a few moments
[20:16] <firelord42> curt: okay
[20:16] <niranjan> Most important reason is after few minutes of idle time, my machine stops responding
[20:16] <niranjan> to mouse clicks
[20:16] <jcook_5xdata> csgeek, copy paste this in term http://pastebin.com/2MMkzAuB
[20:16] <popsch> After starting a kernel, the screen is just black. how can I enable output during the boot process in grub?
[20:16] <csgeek> wow..  thanks
[20:17] <jcook_5xdata> csgeek, it will reinstall all package for kde
[20:17] <avn-matt> Belgicano that's fine found something on i7...
[20:17] <swick> why are my window buttons deactivated sometimes when they are active?
[20:17] <firelord42> popsch: modify the boot line and get rid "quiet splash" which will disable the splash screen and spew what the kernel is doing
[20:17] <RodneyJarvis> Andrew_Cooper: Are you a hard core Ubuntu user?
[20:17] <niranjan> I dont know what happens - but when screen saver or whatever kicks in after idle time out, machine is not normal when I log in. It's slugish and mouse does not work
[20:18] <phunyguy_work> does anyone now how to get the Unity bar to never auto-hide in 11.10?
[20:18] <Tigger__> is it possible to setup Thunderbird 7 for IMAP on hotmail would you know?
[20:18] <niranjan> Keyboard seems to be working ok, but mouse is big problem - I wanted to see if I can logout and then login back  - but can not logout unless I have working mouse
[20:18] <Andrew_Cooper> RodneyJarvis: Depends on what you mean by that.  I prefer using it but I have a Windows machine for when work requires it as well.
[20:18] <popsch> weird, when I boot, I only see a fast blinking cursor in the upper left corner
[20:18] <popsch> I can enter text, but nothing happens
[20:18] <Zylum> Here is something I can't figure out:  every time I stop playback in banshee, vlc player, or any youtube video, my screen blanks out for  few seconds and then comes back... anyone encountered this before?  I'm still using natty
[20:19] <B0g4r7> Tigger__, Thunderbird 7?  I thought 3.1.x was current...
[20:19] <popsch> weird, when I boot, I only see a fast blinking cursor in the upper left corner. I can enter text, but nothing happens. Any ideas, what this can be?
[20:19] <darkfears> For some reason my USB Hard Drive will not show when using ubuntu. Tried: sudo fdisk -l. and still wont work
[20:19] <B0g4r7> darkfears, Is the power supply plugged into it?
[20:19] <csgeek> jcook_5xdata: how did you get that list?  curious for future reference.. and thank you
[20:20] <swick> phunyguy_work: install ccsm then open it and choose unity. there is a entry "hide launcher"
[20:20] <phunyguy_work> swick, that didnt work.
[20:20] <Tigger__> B0g4r7: what OS are you running?
[20:20] <phunyguy_work> even restarted after making changes, no dice.
[20:20] <B0g4r7> Tigger__, natty AKA 11.04.
[20:21] <Tigger__> wow
[20:21] <RodneyJarvis> Andrew_Cooper: What I mean is that I got around that issue by installing a different distro once, as it wasn't for me it wasn't a major issue, because the person was new to Linux anyways, so there was nothing new to learn, & nothing that I was used to & would miss in terms of features or usability
[20:21] <swick> phunyguy_work: what did not work? installing ccsm? did you change the value and nothing happened?
[20:21] <phunyguy_work> I changed the value and nothing happened, swick.
[20:21] <Tigger__> B0g4r7: sorry about that I am in wondows xp right at this moment (tis multi-boot though)
[20:21] <jcook_5xdata> csgeek, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[20:22] <C_K_> hi
[20:22] <C_K_> i am trying to make ubuntu a bootable disk on a mac
[20:22] <C_K_> and i get this error on step 10
[20:22] <C_K_> sudo dd if=/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img.dmg of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1M
[20:22] <csgeek> thanks
[20:22] <C_K_> DD: BS: illegal numerical value
[20:22] <B0g4r7> C_K_, try bs=1000000
[20:22] <swick> phunyguy_work: try alt+f2 "unity --replace"
[20:23] <Tigger__> B0g4r7: I do boot to 11.04 too sometimes
[20:23] <Andrew_Cooper> RodneyJarvis: I've used OpenSuse and Mint.  I really like Ubuntu right now except for this stupid wireless issue.
[20:23] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  The n should be the disk number
[20:23] <reisio> C_K_: try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-mac-latest.zip
[20:23] <popsch> when I boot in rescue mode, I get this error (http://pastebin.com/AWTCFE8R). This means I need to get a new harddisk, right?
[20:23] <C_K_> reisio it doesn't work if you need to boot the usb from a mac
[20:23] <Dracosoft> do "diskutil list" in terminal, and figure out what device u are writing to
[20:23] <C_K_> how do i find the disk number?
[20:23] <avn-matt> phunyguy_work if you cant bring up terminal but can ssh let me know i can walk you through it
[20:24] <curt> firelord42, ok ive identified the linux drive and wrote down all the numbers i saw with it when i ran fdisk
[20:24] <C_K_> ok
[20:24] <curt> firelord42, where do we go from here
[20:24] <phunyguy_work> avn-matt, my system works fine, just want to not autohide the unity bar
[20:25] <darkfears> B0g4r7: Yes the power source is on, and drive shows when i am in windows but when i boot into ubuntu it disappears
[20:25] <phunyguy_work> swick, restarting shouold have had the same effect, right?
[20:25] <phunyguy_work> a full restart...
[20:25] <firelord42> curt: first try to mount the disk using mount -o ro /dev/sdaX /Destination/of/the/mount and if it fails, pastebin dmesg | tail
[20:25] <swick> phunyguy_work: right.
[20:25] <Almindor> hello
[20:25] <phunyguy_work> ok, well it didnt work is what I am saying
[20:25] <avn-matt> phunyguy_work try --reset
[20:26] <Almindor> I can't mount my android phone via usb, I get  [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk in dmesg but it's not mountable
[20:26] <zseller> anybody knows why a kernel upgrade always fails on natty with encrypted home directory?
[20:26] <curt> firelord42, cant i just run the fsck. and what is the destination of the mount? what should it be
[20:26] <Almindor> tried to change the usb modes in the device too
[20:26] <Almindor> anyone with sony xperia neo has this problem?
[20:26] <firelord42> curt: well i was hoping it would tell me the filesystem type, unless you know it
[20:26] <popsch> when I boot in rescue mode, I get this error ( http://pastebin.com/AWTCFE8R ). This means I need to get a new harddisk, right?
[20:26] <Almindor> funny thing is, debugging apps on the phone works
[20:26] <phunyguy_work> wait, tried again, got a conflict, hang on
[20:26] <C_K_> the name is disk1s1
[20:26] <firelord42> curt: i think ubuntu default now is ext4, but I do not remember (anyone else know off the top of their head?)
[20:27] <curt> firelord42, uhh what would be some examples of filesystem types? ext4 is familliar
[20:27] <avn-matt> popsch doesn't look good..
[20:27] <curt> firelord42, unless they are all extX
[20:27] <B0g4r7> zseller, I had a lot of issues recently with kernel updates on natty not working, specifically the mkinitramfs step.  It turned out there were some leftover temporary files hanging out messing up the process.  Have a look in / and in /tmp for leftover initrd files and kill them if present and retry.
[20:27] <firelord42> curt: either ext3 or ext4 would be what you have
[20:27] <Dracosoft> sudo dd if=/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img.dmg of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1M
[20:27] <firelord42> curt: i doubt you are using one of the others unless you specified it
[20:27] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  You get that?
[20:27] <C_K_> same error
[20:27] <Dracosoft> try lower case m
[20:27] <curt> firelord42, i didnt specidfy anyhting different but i cnt say for sure if its ext3 or 4
[20:27] <B0g4r7> C_K_, bs=1000000
[20:28] <C_K_> i typed it draco and nothing is happening
[20:28] <popsch> is there still a nodma boot option for the kernel?
[20:28] <C_K_> bog that didn't work i tried it earlier
[20:28] <curt> firelord42, ok i can run that line bove you asked me to, ill haev to go swap the drives again itll take a few mins. is there any way to run fsck without knowing? or once i know how do i run fsck?
[20:28] <Dracosoft> it takes a few minutes?no status C_K_
[20:28] <phunyguy_work> holy crash
[20:29] <B0g4r7> C_K_, No output means it's doing it's thing.  Wait now for a result when it finishes.
[20:29] <firelord42> curt: fsck /dev/sdaX on your drive should work
[20:29] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  The terminal just gave you a blank line right
[20:29] <C_K_> does it matter that i put disk1 because untitled1 is disk1s1
[20:29] <C_K_> ya
[20:29] <C_K_> it did
[20:29] <avn-matt> popsch run:
[20:29] <avn-matt> e2fsck -f -c -v /dev/sda1
[20:29] <avn-matt> substituting /dev/sda1 with your device with the error.
[20:29] <Dracosoft> yeah?just wait?.it will work
[20:29] <C_K_> ok
[20:29] <popsch> avn-matt, I tried before, but without the -c
[20:29] <curt> firelord42, so if my linux 83 drive is on sda1 i should be able to run fsck /dev/sda1 ?
[20:29] <popsch> avn-matt, it worked fine without the -c
[20:29] <en1gma> im running win7 x64 on my single ssd drive....my motherboard has an option for VM or something like that....anyhow is there a guide that can tell me how to install ubuntu from witin win7 x64 enviroment
[20:29] <firelord42> curt: correct
[20:30] <en1gma> i think i want to run it as a VM right?
[20:30] <C_K_> it says it's not readable on this computer
[20:30] <curt> firelord42, ok im going to try that. thank you
[20:30] <firelord42> curt: and if it doesnt have an error, you can then do fsck -f /dev/sda1
[20:30] <C_K_> do you think it will boot from it?
[20:30] <Dracosoft> did u unmount disk1 first?
[20:30] <curt> firelord42, ok what does fsck -f do?
[20:30] <zseller> booting the new kernel fails because kernel header is corrupt? then it says that you should load the kernel first
[20:30] <C_K_> ya
[20:30] <firelord42> curt: it tells it to ignore the mount count and check the full drive
[20:30] <firelord42> curt: its the force option
[20:30] <C_K_> maybe wrote it to wrong one
[20:30] <curt> firelord42, ok thank you ill try those.
[20:31] <C_K_> ima try again sec
[20:31] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  So did dd exit with no errors?
[20:31] <C_K_> ya
[20:31] <C_K_> just said cannot be read by this computer
[20:31] <C_K_> popup screen
[20:31] <zseller> also the stock natty kernel swithches off my broadcom ethernet and i must reinsert the module
[20:31] <Dracosoft> you should be fine then?.it's a different partition scheme now, which mac cannot read
[20:32] <vlt> Hello. What does “stack smashing detected” mean?
[20:32] <C_K_> oh ok
[20:32] <C_K_> thanks for your help
[20:32] <avn-matt> popsch  -c     This  option  causes  e2fsck  to use badblocks(8) program to do a read-only scan of the              device in order to find any bad blocks.  If any bad blocks are found, they are added to              the  bad  block  inode to prevent them from being allocated to a file or directory.  If              this option is specified twice, then the bad block scan  will  be  done  usin
[20:32] <avn-matt> g  a  non-              destructive read-write test.
[20:32] <_jfb> sshfs is hanging, does it have to do with setting a KeepAlive setting somewhere?
[20:32] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  NP
[20:32] <popsch> ok
[20:32] <vlt> I get this on Ubuntu 11.10.
[20:32] <C_K_> if i am not back in 1 minute it worked and i am installing ubuntu!
[20:32] <Dracosoft> Sweet?.i'll be here
[20:32] <rev^lost> hi, ubuntu 10.4 regognice my ide "raid" card Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20270 (FastTrak100 LP/TX2/TX4) -  I can mount it from the live cd -and acces file on the drive  but the installer does not give me an option for a storage device to install into, is there another way to install ubuntu? or what else can I do?
[20:33] <zseller> also the stock natty kernel swithches off my broadcom ethernet and i must reinsert the module any workaround?
[20:34] <escott> rev^lost, its not always easy/possible to boot off of hardware raid like that. if you can make a non-hardware raid disk you should be able to setup a /boot on that
[20:34] <zseller> booting the new kernel fails because kernel header is corrupt? then it says that you should load the kernel first
[20:35] <pp7> in unity how do i get the unity panel background blurred?  NOT the top panel
[20:35] <C_K_> hey draco it's a .dmg file not .img should i rename it?
[20:35] <avn-matt> popsch my guess is that drive will fail catastrophically very soon....
[20:35] <kjeet> i ran a weeks worth of updates last night, and no my mouse is all erratic and jumpy, and grabs windows randomly
[20:35] <kjeet> anyone else gettign this?
[20:35] <popsch> avn-matt, so I better resuce the remaining data...
[20:35] <rev^lost> escott: that is exaclty the problem, new board and it lacks and ide port, and I dont have a free (spare) sata drive thx for the warning
[20:36] <jpk> Hi, quick question: Is there a way to see which configure flags, or other build-time options, were used when a package maintainer built a package for ubuntu?
[20:36] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  I would try, I always start with a .img
[20:36] <avn-matt> popsch usually a good idea when threats exist :D
[20:36] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  didnt think it mattered though
[20:36] <zseller> nope not really
[20:36] <zseller> tried with other mouse?
[20:36] <curt> firelord42, hey so its telling me if i run fsck it will cause severe damage because the drive is mounted
[20:37] <firelord42> curt: huh? i thought you said you couldnt mount it?
[20:37] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  dd reads it the same regardless (i thought)
[20:37] <C_K_> do i need to format the usb stick?
[20:37] <curt> firelord42, yeah, it wont mount in puppy linux. and when i try to boot normally it just hangs
[20:37] <firelord42> curt: can you pastebin the output of the mount command?
[20:37] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  yeah, make sure u can write to it b4 u start
[20:38] <cntrational> I'm having a problem with iBus; I can only select the top input method in the list, and that only with the enable/disable keyboard shortcut. what do I do?
[20:38] <curt> firelord42, whats the mount command? do you want me to try to mount it in puppy again?
[20:38] <C_K_> should i make it free space?
[20:38] <C_K_> or fat23?
[20:38] <andrea> hola
[20:38] <C_K_> 32*
[20:38] <firelord42> curt: just type mount and press enter :P
[20:38] <andrea> hi1
[20:38] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  FAT I think
[20:39] <Dracosoft> How big is the stick C_K_
[20:39] <Guest26980> hola
[20:39] <C_K_> 4g's
[20:39] <Dracosoft> More than enough
[20:39] <C_K_> so there is the name of the stick
[20:39] <C_K_> and a untitled parition
[20:39] <C_K_> i want tp ise unititled parition
[20:39] <C_K_> disk1
[20:39] <Dracosoft> U have to grab the root disk (disk1 not disk1s1)
[20:40] <C_K_> not the name of the stick disk1s1 righgt
[20:40] <Dracosoft> NO?..disk1
[20:40] <C_K_> ok
[20:40] <bios`> Hi I have the following problem, can anyone help ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69896/trouble-creating-xorg-conf
[20:40] <zseller> anybody gets errors on kernel upgrade?
[20:40] <C_K_> lets try this again
[20:40] <Dracosoft> C_K_>>  I gg?best of luck
[20:40] <C_K_> i gg?
[20:40] <Dracosoft> Got to Go
[20:41] <C_K_> thanks for the help
[20:41] <Dracosoft> class is over...lol
[20:41] <cntrational> nobody?
[20:41] <Dracosoft> N/P
[20:41] <kjeet> zseller, just my touchpad
[20:41]  * avn-matt away - priv msg me if i was helping you and you still need something
[20:41] <curt> firelord42, im on my notebook so i need to put the other damaged drive in to do anyhting. want me to put it in and try to mount it? i wont be able to cut and paste anything
[20:41] <_jfb> hey folks, I just did fresh install of 11.10 it rocks so far!  but I use sshfs, and it seems to be hanging, not sure if I forgot some setting on Keep Alive or something????
[20:42] <firelord42> curt: the error message you got would hint that it was already mounted
[20:42] <phunyguy_work> yeah my unity is b0rked on the netbook.  Told it to ignore a conflict, and now it wont come back.  If I can drop back to a command shell, is there a command to reset unity to defaults?
[20:42] <zseller> there is a ppa with graphics drivers something like oibaf and there are drivers for xorg  mesa and touchpad I use them all the time and no problems
[20:43] <curt> well yeah it was apparently mounted when i did that. but then i had to shut down, pull that drive out, put this drive in and boot up to be able to chat again. that hard disk is sitting on the desk next to me so its definitely not mounted right now ahah
[20:43] <zseller> encountered, most of them are from git
[20:43] <curt> firelord42  ^
[20:43] <firelord42> lmao, but when you put it back in, it will be mounted again
[20:43] <zseller> kjeet try to install from there
[20:44] <avn-matt> phunyguy_work if you tried these no idea,, maybe lightdm reinstall?   910  unity --replace   911  DISPLAY=:1 unity --replace  912  sudo service lightdm restart
[20:44] <avn-matt> phunyguy_work pmsg me if u need more help
[20:44] <cntrational> :<
[20:44] <curt> firelord42, would it be possible to mount via usb? i have a thing from an external hard drive so i could do something like that
[20:45] <firelord42> curt: yes it would be
[20:45] <curt> firelord42, ok lets try that. its plugged in via usb. what can i do
[20:45] <phunyguy_work> avn-matt: I am going to assume that each command would look something like "unity --replace" "DISPLAY=:1" "sudo service lightdm restart"
[20:45] <phunyguy_work> without the silly copied and pasted line numbers
[20:46] <firelord42> curt: it should have automatically mounted if you are running ubuntu
[20:46] <phunyguy_work> just not sure why these commands are required, I have the little checkbox visible currently to disable and enable unity
[20:46] <curt> firelord42, oh my god, it worked. i tried before though and it wouldnt work!
[20:46] <curt> firelord42, you sir are a shining golden god. youve saved my term project
[20:47] <firelord42> curt: xD
[20:47] <firelord42> curt: no prob. you still may want to fsck that drive sometime in the future, but i guess the immediate issue is solved :P
[20:47] <curt> firelord42, well im going to get m important data off of it and then just do a fresh install i think
[20:48] <firelord42> curt: you can also get the full fs details and everything through the mount command now
[20:48] <firelord42> curt: whatever works :P
[20:48] <curt> firelord42, thank you again very much
[20:49] <C_K_> why won't m mac read the usb stick?
[20:49] <reisio> using other OSes... not a big thing with Apple, AIUI
[20:49] <phunyguy_work> fantastic.  I now have a working unity shell.  Changes after that applied perfectly!  Thanks avn-matt
[20:49] <C_K_> i followed the directions
[20:49] <firelord42> C_K_: my mac reads usb sticks
[20:50] <C_K_> it won't read ubuntu usb stick
[20:50] <reisio> it won't boot from it?
[20:50] <C_K_> when i try to boot from disk it pretends it doesn't exsit
[20:50] <C_K_> ya i just see mac and windows on usb stick
[20:50] <firelord42> C_K_: ah, thats because it boots using EFI
[20:50] <reisio> did you check your BIOS/EFI options?
[20:50] <gartral> C_K_: what kind of computer?
[20:50] <C_K_> mac book
[20:50] <firelord42> C_K_: is the usb using a GPT/MFT partition table?
[20:51] <C_K_> i partitioned it to fat32
[20:51] <Guest33845> Hello.
[20:51] <C_K_> and followed the instructions on the website
[20:51] <C_K_> other than that i dunno
[20:51] <C_K_> i am a noob
[20:51] <machete> hello
[20:51] <B0g4r7> firelord42 and C_K_, if you wrote to /dev/rdisk1, you will have overwrote the partition table and everything.
[20:51] <gartral> C_K_: ahh. hold command+G (I belive) at boot
[20:52] <C_K_> command?
[20:52] <B0g4r7> C_K_, Apple-key == command
[20:52] <C_K_> according to unbent i would be able to press alt
[20:52] <firelord42> gartral: i am not familiar with command+g
[20:52] <gartral> the little square squigly thing.. or Apple Key
[20:52] <C_K_> and it would give me the option to boot form it
[20:52] <C_K_> oh
[20:52] <firelord42> C_K_: can i get a link to your guide?
[20:52] <C_K_> whats command+g do?
[20:52] <gartral> firelord42: If it
[20:53] <reisio> ⌘
[20:53] <firelord42> gartral: what does it do?
[20:53] <bobweaver> reisio: oO
[20:53] <Valder> Hello.
[20:53] <C_K_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:53] <reisio> Valder: hi
[20:53] <C_K_> i clicked usb mac
[20:53] <C_K_> under how to install or w/e
[20:53] <robinsch> is there a good program for draw venn diagrams?
[20:53] <gartral> firelord42: If it's using the same EFI I think it is, command+G should tell it too try too look for a bootable GPT table on any device,
[20:53] <robinsch> and save them as a image file
[20:53] <B0g4r7> C_K_, http://davespicks.com/writing/programming/mackeys.html
[20:53] <firelord42> gartral: thats what holding alt does really
[20:53] <reisio> robinsch: Inkscape?
[20:54] <firelord42> gartral: as far as I know
[20:54] <firelord42> C_K_: i think thats to make a bootable USB but nto really one that will boot on mac, one sec
[20:54] <reisio> robinsch: or do you want something automated
[20:54] <gartral> firelord42: Ahh, ok, same concept, different EFI version, if your correct
[20:54] <Valder> Hi. I was wondering if someone could help me set up a User. I got the user setup, but I don't know how to give it the 'privileges' I want. :/
[20:54] <robinsch> reisio: ya like in word
[20:54] <iceroot> reisio: have a look at "jude" which is a java-app for something like that
[20:54]  * gartral is used too the CR-48's EFI
[20:54] <C_K_> fire lord if that's true i dunno what to say
[20:54] <C_K_> but bad words
[20:54] <C_K_> haha
[20:54] <iceroot> reisio: wrong nick
[20:54] <iceroot> robinsch: "jude"
[20:54] <C_K_> it said convert to .dmg
[20:55] <firelord42> C_K_: no cdroms lying around? there are other ways, just not that way i dont think, i am reading it now
[20:55] <C_K_> and that is read by mac
[20:55] <C_K_> no my burner is broken
[20:55] <robinsch> reisio: i just want to use it as a way to repersent set builder notation for discrete math
[20:55] <C_K_> cd rom works
[20:55] <bobweaver> C_K_: how did you put it on the usb ?
[20:55] <Valder> Does anyone know how to manage user privileges?
[20:55] <C_K_>  sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[20:56] <pp7> in unity how do i get the unity panel background blurred?  NOT the top panel
[20:56] <C_K_> how should i format the drive?
[20:56] <C_K_> journaled?
[20:56] <C_K_> ima try thAT
[20:56] <en1gma> if i want to install ubuntu on same partion as my win7 i use vmware player or is there something better?
[20:56] <B0g4r7> C_K_, your dd command overwrites the entire device.  Anything you write onto it beforehand is irrelevant.
[20:57] <firelord42> C_K_: strange, it is written to say that should work, but I could have sworn I had to do some wacky efi stuff to get it to work last time...
[20:57] <Valder> pp7: What do you mean by blurred?
[20:57] <gartral> C_K_: stuuupid question, but is that fat32 partition on a GUID table? or MBR?
[20:57] <robinsch> I want something to model sets when I type something like A is subset of U
[20:57] <ThinkT510> en1gma: virtualbox
[20:57] <devinus> does anybody know if Ubuntu supports two graphics cards in SLI mode?
[20:57] <C_K_> UHH
[20:57] <reisio> en1gma: you want to run it as a guest of Windows, or just avoid having to repartition?
[20:57] <firelord42> gartral: he is writing the entire thing directly to the disk it appears
[20:57] <en1gma> ThinkT510 its better?
[20:57] <C_K_> whats a guid table
[20:57] <robinsch> any program that does that?
[20:57] <C_K_> graphic user interface
[20:58] <C_K_> somthing?
[20:58] <B0g4r7> en1gma, I understand that virtualbox performs better on systems with more limited resources.
[20:58] <bobweaver> !unetbootin  > C_K_
[20:58] <en1gma> i just didnt want to do a fresh install on my win7 partition...i hate how ubuntu messes with partitions
[20:58] <reisio> robinsch: http://search.cpan.org/~djibel/Venn-Chart-1.02/lib/Venn/Chart.pm
[20:58] <ThinkT510> en1gma: i've never used vmware, but virtualbox is opensource
[20:58] <pp7> Valder: i mean the background behind it
[20:58] <brainsoft> hi i have weird sound problem. suddenly sound works through browsers like youtube and so on and not on players like mpg123 smplayer or xine ( i dont mean simultaneosly) then i do nothing and suddenly after for example 20 minutes happens the opossite. i cant hear youtube and sound works on xine smplayer or mpg123
[20:58] <gartral> devinus: depens on what cards, and what version of the nvidia drivers your running, last I played around with SLI in ubuntu, it broke more than it made work.
[20:58] <en1gma> ok maybe i should use virtualbox...im really not sure...my motherboard bios has an option about vm or something so i thought i needed vmware
[20:59] <reisio> en1gma: if you run the installer from inside Windows (wubi), it can install to a _file_ inside your Windows filesystem, and you can boot to it
[20:59] <gartral> firelord42: ok.. i'm going too go look at those instruction closly
[20:59] <Valder> pp7: In other words, transparent? Do you use Unity 2D?
[20:59] <guest-OUzl6t> hi, I have a problem. Installed 11.10 today from scratch, everything worked perfect. then I installed compiz config session manager, started it (just started it! did nothing!) and suddely my unity sidebar and all indicators from the top right of the screen were gone. I tried to restart, deinstalled ccsm after starting software center from console, tried unity --replace ... nothing helps. Strangely, in a guest session everyt
[20:59] <guest-OUzl6t> hing is back there. What could I do? : ( Please help.
[20:59] <pp7> Valder: yes i have it transparent but the background behind it is not blurred
[20:59] <ThinkT510> en1gma: vm means virtual machine
[20:59] <robinsch> reisio: how do I use that?
[20:59] <B0g4r7> en1gma, either one should work.  Why not try both?  I believe they can both use the same virtual disk format, so you can switch between them to some degree.
[20:59] <en1gma> reisio that is intresting...will it do a full dev enviroment? i think i need to rebuild some wifi driver
[20:59] <pp7> Valder: i saw a screenshot from someone who had it blurred
[20:59] <reisio> robinsch: just load the install image inside Windows, it'll auto-run
[20:59] <C_K_> that bot distracted me
[20:59] <JohnnyVegas> Hey folks. Trying to set-up dual screen in 11.10. already ran "sudo nvidia-settings" and activated the second monitor and then saved XConfig. Now when I restart, the secondary monitor is on, but it's only a white screen and the "Displays" in System Settings isn't recognizing the display. Any ideas?
[21:00] <The_Loko> what's better vm or wubi?
[21:00] <C_K_> anyway
[21:00] <ThinkT510> en1gma: wubi is rubbish, don't bother
[21:00] <en1gma> i should probably just install a full version...
[21:00] <reisio> robinsch: http://www.ltr-data.se/opencode.html/#ImDisk
[21:00] <pp7> Valder: i just use the standard installed unity (3d i guess)
[21:00] <Valder> pp7: Strange, it should be right under where you changed the top panel.
[21:00] <C_K_> i dunno what to do
[21:00] <C_K_> but i guess  will try one last time
[21:00] <ThinkT510> The_Loko: vm
[21:00] <reisio> The_Loko: depends on what you're doing, what hardware you have, etc.
[21:00] <robinsch> reisio: ah I am talking about venn diagram
[21:00] <pp7> Valder: erm what should be?
[21:00] <The_Loko> this version of ubuntu, with wubi runs slow, really slow.
[21:00] <en1gma> i got the usb version so i think i can boot to that and if i go ahead and select install do i tell it to install to mbr or that other one...im running win7 x64
[21:00] <reisio> if you want all your fancy graphics effects to work, a VM isn't going to cut it
[21:00] <robinsch> reisio: how can I install the venn diagram program
[21:00] <Valder> pp7: Well, did you change the top panel?
[21:01] <habanany> anybody help ? im using a 4gb usb, what should be the parmeter to put in ... spaces used to preserve files across reboots ubuntu only size unebootin
[21:01] <reisio> robinsch: that is a venn diagram program
[21:01] <robinsch> reisio: it only works on windows?
[21:01] <Valder> pp7: If you did, the option to change the Launcher should be in the same place as the panel.
[21:01] <pp7> Valder: i changed the theme
[21:01] <reisio> en1gma: either will work, but to install _alongside_ Windows you'll likely have to resize partitions to make room
[21:01] <Valder> Ah.
[21:01] <habanany> im using unebootin to install ubuntu live persistent
[21:01] <reisio> en1gma: with wubi I think you only have the option of using Windows' loader
[21:01] <B0g4r7> Wubi is for Windows.  VMs are platform agnostic.
[21:01] <en1gma> i hate that.
[21:01] <gartral> C_K_: your following the Ubuntu.com instruction to the letter, yea?
[21:01] <en1gma> :)
[21:01] <reisio> en1gma: :D
[21:01] <Valder> pp7: Do you have CompizConfig installed?
[21:02] <pp7> yep
[21:02] <reisio> en1gma: good idea to defrag before you do that, btw
[21:02] <robinsch> reisio: it looks like a perl module
[21:02] <reisio> en1gma: you can also migrate wubi installs to dedicated partition installs later on
[21:02] <reisio> robinsch: right
[21:02] <en1gma> i have acronis disk director (and trust it pretty good) maybe i will use that and then install ubuntu
[21:02] <C_K_> ya
[21:02] <C_K_> gartal
[21:02] <en1gma> wubi sounds intresting
[21:02] <robinsch> reisio: so how I am suppose to use that
[21:02] <en1gma> ok thanks
[21:02] <gartral> C_K_: ok...
[21:03] <en1gma> i gonna try a few things and will let everyone know how it goes when i decide which one to go with
[21:03] <en1gma> brb rebooting
[21:03] <bobweaver> what is yabottin or something like that in mac ?
[21:03] <C_K_> well i am a little confused about this
[21:03] <reisio> en1gma: it's unnecessarily complex for people who really want to use Linux a lot, but can be convenient regardless
[21:03] <kenjy> hi guys I have ubuntu server and when I boot it my apache don't boot, I have to manually start it trough /etc/init.d/apache2 start command, Im sure that its added to rc schema, can you help me?
[21:03] <C_K_> do i install it to disk1 or disk1s1
[21:03] <gartral> C_K_: are you on a macbook or MacbookPro?
[21:03] <Valder> pp7: Run it and find "Ubuntu Unity Plugin" under "Desktop." Then, in the Experimental tab you will find the panel transparency.
[21:03] <C_K_> disk1 being the name of the usb drive and disk1s1 being the name of the partition
[21:03] <C_K_> pro
[21:03] <guest-OUzl6t> Fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10, everything fine, installed ccsm, started it w/o changing settings, suddenly unity completely fucked up : ( What do?
[21:03] <pp7> Valder: yes that just changes the transparency, not the blurryness
[21:03] <C_K_> macbook pro
[21:04] <heyitseric> .
[21:04] <bobweaver> sorry Yaboot
[21:04] <gartral> C_K_: you want too dd the image too the disk, not the partition
[21:04] <C_K_> ok, thats what i have been doing
[21:04] <robinsch> do i just say cpan Venn:Chart?
[21:05] <JohnnyVegas> Trying to set-up dual-screen in 11.10, but so far only have white screen on secondary monitor. What now?
[21:05] <Valder> pp7: Well, I see what you mean now. I didn't notice it before, but there isn't any blur under the launcher.
[21:05] <gartral> C_K_: is it one of the newer MacBook Pros with an i5/i7 CPU?
[21:06] <C_K_> sudo dd if=/Users/Goodies/Desktop/linux.img.dmg of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[21:06] <C_K_> no it's a 2007 i tihnk
[21:06] <pp7> Valder: yea but i think its possible, i'll try to find the screenshot
[21:06] <Valder> pp7: Okay. Show it to me. I'm interested in it too.
[21:07] <Fisher> hello, is there a way to setup mutable desktops inn gnome3?
[21:08] <C_K_> why would it tell me to remove my flash drive then boot from it?
[21:08] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[21:08] <gartral> C_K_: ok. also, you *might* want oflags=sync in the dd line
[21:08] <firelord42> C_K_: you can always pull out your hard disk, hold alt, then plug it in and wait for it to show up
[21:08] <firelord42> C_K_: EFI is different than BIOS, it will actually scan newly added boot media when you put it in
[21:09] <firelord42> which is kinda nice :P
[21:09] <bobweaver> I am real new to all of this just wondering what yaboot is
[21:09] <C_K_> oh
[21:09] <tarek1> hi guys. I had ubuntu 11.10 fresh installed, got ccsm, started it and it messed up unity completely (sidebar and symbols from top right are just gone ...). In a guest session everything is fine. Can I do something apart from installing ubuntu from scratch again? : (
[21:09] <C_K_> oflag=sync if=/apth?
[21:09] <gartral> C_K_: no, after bs=1m
[21:10] <C_K_> brb
[21:10] <Fisher> hello, is there a way to setup mutable desktops inn gnome3?
[21:10] <gartral> C_K_: it shouldn't be needed. it will add a few minutes too the write proccess, but makes sure everything is written.
[21:10] <firelord42> Fisher: mutable or multiple?
[21:11] <Fisher> mutimultable
[21:11] <Fisher> multable
[21:11] <firelord42> okay now I am really confused
[21:12] <C_K_> it's taking for ever this time
[21:12] <C_K_> i didn't add that thing though
[21:12] <C_K_> oflag
[21:12] <Fisher> fifireb i want 4 desktops in gnome3
[21:12] <C_K_> but it is taking a lot longer than the other times i tried
[21:12] <Fisher> firelord42,
[21:12] <firelord42> Fisher: doesnt it do that by default?
[21:13] <C_K_> mac's are a pain
[21:13] <tarek1> Installed CompizConfig Session Manager on 11.10, started it and since then my unity sidebar and indicators from the top bar are gone. What could I do? Please help.
[21:13] <Fisher> firelord42,  no
[21:13]  * firelord42 could have sworn
[21:13] <Valder> Does anyone know how to configure users?
[21:13]  * firelord42 jumps to other computer
[21:13] <msilveira> adduser, chpass
[21:14] <Valder> But how do I give each user different Priveleges?
[21:14] <C_K_> so what happens if the blank line stays
[21:14] <C_K_> and it never finishes
[21:14] <msilveira> there is a file called "groups"
[21:14] <firelord42> Fisher: multiple desktops on Gnome installed on ubuntu right?
[21:14] <C_K_> like how do i know it's still going
[21:15] <gartral> C_K_: ok, that's good, it should take between 5-9 minutes too write the image (depending on USB port, speed of the drives.. system load... etc...)
[21:15] <Fisher> firelord42,  only 2
[21:15] <C_K_> ok
[21:15] <C_K_> cool
[21:15] <firelord42> Fisher: on a default install?
[21:15] <Valder> For example, User1 (standard user) can install apps, but can't run anything that messes with the system.
[21:15] <C_K_> ok
[21:15] <C_K_> just got an error
[21:15] <random42> how can a font render with Subpixel Smoothing (anti aliasing or M$ ClearType) for size > 11 but fails for size < 10 ?
[21:15] <Fisher> firelord42,  yes
[21:15] <firelord42> Fisher: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:15] <pp7> Valder: cant find it
[21:15] <C_K_> sayinh
[21:15] <C_K_> Disk is not readable by a mac
[21:15] <Fisher> firelord42,  11.10
[21:15] <C_K_> is it my usb drive?
[21:15] <msilveira> Valder, installing apps is messing with the system
[21:16] <random42> that happens on M$ when you don't enable the ClearType , but I have enabled the Subpixel Smoothing option in my preferences ...
[21:16] <tarek1> Installed CompizConfig Session Manager on 11.10, started it and since then my unity sidebar and indicators from the top bar are gone. What could I do? Please help.
[21:16] <Valder> pp7: I have been searching too. No luck.
[21:16] <firelord42> Fisher: strange, my old old oldcomputer even defaulted with 4
[21:16] <random42> and the most interesting problem is at size = 11 , the E is horizontally inverted !
[21:16] <gartral> C_K_: hmm.. that might have worked then, try booting from it
[21:16] <C_K_> ok brb
[21:16] <Fisher> hm
[21:16] <pp7> Valder: is possible it was a mock-up
[21:16] <Fisher> im trying to figure how to change this
[21:17] <msilveira> has there ever been a report of linux physically damaging a harddrive?
[21:17] <Valder> msilveira: What I mean is to Give him the ability to install, but not run programs like "Startupmanager." Or maybe install programs to home.
[21:17] <reisio> msilveira: sort of a loaded question
[21:17] <robin0800> tarek1, try setting ccsm to unity defaults and then log out and back in
[21:17] <AndroidLoverInSF> is there a way to set timeout on cifs mount in fstab?
[21:18] <tarek1> robin0800, thanks for the advice, where ca I set ccsm to unity defaults?
[21:18] <robin0800> tarek1, in the preferences
[21:18] <C_K_> won't show up
[21:18] <C_K_> act's like it's not there
[21:19] <tarek1> kk, I'll give it a try. brb
[21:19] <djjonex> i have installed apache2  but i restart the computer and isnt working :(
[21:19] <msilveira> last night I lost my linux drive on the first reboot after witching from ethernet port to another in the bios. I'm trying to be logical and tell myself it was just a coincidence. but what a coincidence
[21:19] <gartral> C_K_: I'm afraid I'm at a loss. I'm sorry
[21:19] <Valder> pp7: Was the dash open in this?
[21:19] <C_K_> thanks for trying
[21:19] <C_K_> i am going to try a different usb drive
[21:19] <gartral> C_K_: your welcome
[21:19] <C_K_> don't think it will help though
[21:19] <random42> how to install fonts in ubuntu ?
[21:20] <denysonique_x> random42: copy them to /usr/share/fonts
[21:20] <bobweaver> !fonts > random42
[21:20] <xangua> random42: double clic on the ttf
[21:22] <random42> denaitre, bobweaver , xangua yeah i did, (sudo cp *.ttf /usr/share/fonts && sudo fs-cache -fv ) but the fontconfigs are not properly set
[21:22] <random42> is there anything else I need to do ?
[21:23] <usuario_> ola??
[21:23] <arghx> !es
[21:23] <usuario_> olaaaaa
[21:24] <bobweaver> arghx: you beat me to it :>)
[21:24] <arghx> usuario_: do you have a ubuntu problem?
[21:24] <Reaper> I tried guys but I have to go back to 11.04 this new build is toooooooooo buggy
[21:24] <AMaio> usuario_, If you have any question about Ubuntu and want to talk in portuguese, join the #ubuntu-pt channel
[21:25] <usuario_> uxaaaaa
[21:25] <robin0800> !notunity | Reaper
[21:26] <Reaper> ok, ill try but i dual boot backtrack5 and I think thats what my problem is.
[21:27] <random42> denaitre, bobweaver , xangua yeah i did, the font seems to render without Antialiasing for size < 11 , its all good for size > 11 , and for size =11 I see that E is horizontally flipped !
[21:27] <ubuntu_> Reaper: or you can try Xubuntu
[21:27] <Guest25259> yo
[21:27] <Reaper> oh? is that just another "desktop"?
[21:28] <ubuntu_> yes
[21:28] <Reaper> cool, ill check it out and see how it works. my just run bt off of a live cd for a while.
[21:28] <Lordu23> Hello all
[21:28] <Lordu23> who can to help me ?
[21:28] <Reaper> thanx for the heads up on that
[21:29] <Lordu23> Im finist to install on ubuntu 10.10 after upgrade 11.04 but why slow on my pc  ?
[21:29] <bobweaver> Lordu23:  you have looked at htop and ps aux ?
[21:30] <pp7> Valder: I dont think so but i see what you're getting at
[21:30] <ivanoats> hey all… I'm trying    sudo echo "foo" > /etc/hostname but get permission denied .. any tips?
[21:31] <bobweaver> sudo echo foo >> where/erver ??
[21:31] <bobweaver> ever *
[21:31] <Valder> pp7: Maybe in later updates, they will have the launcher blur like when the Dash is open.
[21:31] <haled> why is there both "heberon" and "gaza" at the ubuntu time and date settings?
[21:31] <soreau> bobweaver: You'd want to use tee
[21:31] <Lordu23> Im finist to install on ubuntu 10.10 after upgrade 11.04 but why slow on my pc  ?
[21:31] <ivanoats> oh, sudo bash -c "whatever the hell I want" works
[21:31] <pp7> Valder: yea hopefully, it would look super that way
[21:31] <Lordu23> please to help me
[21:32] <bobweaver> soreau:  what is tee ?
[21:32] <bobweaver> !tee . bobweaver
[21:32] <Valder> pp7: yes, I agree.
[21:32] <pp7> Valder: u use wobbly windows?
[21:32] <msilveira> ivanoats, sudo stops at the first redirection
[21:32] <haled> why are there both "heberon" and "gaza" at the ubuntu time and date settings?
[21:32] <soreau> bobweaver: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee_%28command%29
[21:32] <Valder> pp7: No, I haven't had time to mess around with compiz. Why?
[21:32] <pp7> Valder: just wondered if u encountered the bug where it doesnt work sometimes
[21:33] <msilveira> haled, so people in Gaza can set their time zones accordingly?
[21:33] <pp7> Valder: and if there is a solution
[21:33] <reisio> haled: you may as well ask why there are more than {however many time zones there are} ones
[21:33] <Valder> No, I have not. I'll check it out.
[21:33] <soreau> bobweaver: So it would be echo something | sudo tee /path/to/root_owned_file
[21:33] <bobweaver> soreau:  v.cool
[21:34] <Timmit> ok. i'm actually having trouble properly searching on this one. Going to describe and see if it rings any bells?
[21:34] <Andres-kain> any body use *.gdsii files?
[21:34] <cdnjay> Can someone suggest a good IRC server?  Preferably something in the repositories...
[21:34] <pguinet1> Hello, I have a problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04. Error with do-release-upgrade is (one of 9 lines) "WARNING:root:file 'natty.tar.gz.gpg' missing"
[21:35] <soreau> cdnjay: You mean IRC client?
[21:35] <bobweaver> cdnjay:  quassel ?
[21:35] <xangua> !irc | cdnjay you mean irc client
[21:35] <bobweaver> !bst
[21:35] <bobweaver> !best
[21:35] <Timmit> boot up : get to login page : but there's these little squares in the top left of the screen blinking black and white, and my scroll lock is flashing on and off. Can type text in login box but it's not accepting. Hit reset. It does it again, but i can login this time.
[21:35] <Timmit> so I immediately restart the safe way and now everything comes up fine.
[21:35] <soreau> cdnjay: I'd recommend xchat for a gui IRC client
[21:35] <Timmit> I can't find any glaring stuff in kern.log, syslog, or Xorg.0.log to explain this. What's going on?
[21:36] <msilveira> the question was for a irc *server*
[21:36] <cdnjay> No, I think I mean server.  Although if anyone has any good ideas for Mac IRC clients that would be helpful too, the ones I have suck.
[21:37] <soreau> cdnjay: In that case, you're probably better off asking in #freenode
[21:37] <denysonique_x> cdnjay: limechat, macirssi
[21:37] <cdnjay> soreau: ok, thanks.
[21:37] <Andres-kain> so... any electronic engineers here that use gdsii editor? if so, which one?
[21:37] <greenman> Hello.
[21:38] <cdnjay> denysonique_x: I think I tried lime chat and didn't like the ui, although lime chat for the iPad is pretty good, that's what I'm using now.
[21:38] <greenman> So I want to exchange rsyslog for sysklogd.  I can't seem to do this without losing ubuntu-minimal.
[21:38] <msilveira> cdnjay, how about using ircd?
[21:38] <greenman> Any ideas?
[21:38] <denysonique_x> cdnjay: Quassel IRC
[21:38] <denysonique_x> cdnjay: Xchat aqua
[21:39] <soreau> Andre_Gondim: Maybe try ##linux or #electronics
[21:39] <Andres-kain> soreau thanks!
[21:40] <cdnjay> msilveira: Is it in the repositories or is there a site I can grab it from?
[21:41] <cdnjay> denysonique_x: I love xchat for Ubuntu but it seemed to be missing something on Mac, maybe I'm just picky.
[21:41] <msilveira> cdnjay, there's one in the repository called "ircd-hybrid" which was good as of Hardy
[21:41] <Nathen> can somone help with a ubuntu issue i have?
[21:42] <cdnjay> msilveira: cool, thanks
[21:42] <EngelsP> hi
[21:42] <Andres-kain> nathen what is it?
[21:42] <denysonique_x> cdnjay: then compile the linux version with GTK+ and use it with an X server
[21:43] <Nathen> i get "no root file system is defined" when i try and install ubuntu to a blank hardisk partition
[21:43] <en1gma> just installed ubuntu 11.10 desktop through vmplayer...i can not believe it is STILL using that crappy desktop with that sidebar...i know that view is subjective...but i hate it and at least in 11.04 i could switch to classic desktop...now i been reading and read something about gnome shell or gnome 3 fallback...what is the correct one
[21:43] <Timmit> en1gma gnome shell's package contains fallback
[21:43] <soreau> Nathen: You need to define the root file system which mount point would be '/'
[21:43] <Nathen> how?
[21:44] <Timmit> unless you have filesize concerns just grab the former
[21:44] <en1gma> Timmit how do i get it...synaptic?
[21:44] <soreau> Nathen: Are you trying to manual partition?
[21:44] <en1gma> which one is the correct one
[21:44] <Nathen> idk?
[21:44] <en1gma> i got quite a bit of space
[21:44] <oxseyn> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 desktop & Gnome3.  After modifying my xorg.conf using nvidia-settings, gnome-panel is now displaying 3 panels at the top of my screen.  How can I reconfigure gnome-panel to just display a single panel?
[21:44] <greenman> So I want to exchange rsyslog for sysklogd.  I can't seem to do this without losing ubuntu-minimal.
[21:44] <Timmit> en1gma, any of the repositories. I think it's gnome-shell or something
[21:44] <yaz> hi i kinda deleted jupiter from the start up menu can some 1 please send me the codes so i can install it again?
[21:44] <Timmit> also, Anyone? : "boot up : get to login page : but there's these little squares in the top left of the screen blinking black and white, and my scroll lock is flashing on and off. Can type text in login box but it's not accepting. Hit reset. It does it again, but i can login this time."
[21:44] <en1gma> ok thanks...should i just get kde 4.6 or stick with the gnome shell
[21:45] <soreau> Nathen: When you start the ubuntu installer, it gives options for automatic and manual partitioning
[21:45] <Timmit> en1gma, i like gnome personally.
[21:45] <en1gma> i did two because less problems and is fast but i heard/read kde 4.6 was good but havent tried it
[21:45] <EngelsP> where can i change the desktop font color in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:45] <Timmit> for my case : this one has me a little concerned since no log makes any mention of errors to tie to this. And for once i'm using a new machine so hopefully it isn't hardware :|
[21:45] <Nathen> i do manual, automatic divides hardisk in 2, i wanna use my own parition
[21:45] <vacho> do u guys recommend themes for ubuntu 11.10?
[21:46] <xangua> vacho: gnome-look.org
[21:46] <xangua> vacho: i also saw post about themes on omg!ubuntu! and webupd8 blogs
[21:46] <soreau> Nathen: That's fine, you just need to create e new partition in the empty space, select type ext4 and mount point as /
[21:47] <Nathen> ok how do i do this, is there a program i can use inside windows?
[21:47] <vacho> but is ubuntu 11.10 gnome?
[21:47] <xangua> vacho: yes
[21:47] <greenman> So I want to exchange rsyslog for sysklogd.  I can't seem to do this without losing ubuntu-minimal.
[21:47] <xangua> unity runs on top of gnome 3.2 vacho
[21:47] <vacho> xangua, thought it was unity?
[21:47] <EngelsP> where can i change the desktop font color in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:48] <vacho> xangua, oh that's how it works.
[21:48] <Timmit> guess i'll go find dinner and try again later
[21:49] <EngelsP> any one
[21:49] <robin0800> oxseyn, you hold alt and click
[21:50] <Andres-kain> engels might be silly: big button + font?
[21:51] <CharminTheMoose> Hey all. I'm finding that returning from sleep mode is a bit slow all of a sudden, here's the dmesg output, can anyone make head or tail of it? http://pastebin.ca/2091986
[21:52] <oxseyn> robin0800: Thanks.
[21:52] <cntrational> can anybody help me with a broken iBus?
[21:53] <msilveira> CharminTheMoose, until it gets out of sleep mode, the cpu would tend to be slower than normal
[21:53] <CharminTheMoose> msilveira, well, this is unusually slow, like up to a minute before I get control of the mouse again..
[21:54] <CharminTheMoose> and it hasn't happened before.
[21:54] <yaz> any1 no how to imporve battery life on laptop i get about an hour of battery life
[21:55] <djjonex> need to make mysql-server work
[21:55] <msilveira> has anything chnaged in your bios power settings?
[21:55] <vacho> how do I run gnome 3.2?
[21:56] <oxseyn> I'm having significant difficulties getting my external monitor working as a seperate X-Screen in 11.10.  When I check dmesg, it appears that gnome-panel crashes when I log in.  Anyone have anymore information on this issue?
[21:56] <yekoms> when i boot up ubuntu11.04, i get a theme selection window, how do i remove this?
[21:56] <CharminTheMoose> msilveira, no, haven't changed anything in the BIOS. Though, I did remove the gnome network-manager and just use wpa_supplicant manually. Am running 11.04 with a lappy.
[21:57] <hcvay> help please - WDA-2320 wireless desktop card is not working on 10.04 anymore
[21:58] <yekoms> i changed my boot screen..and when i reboot the theme selector keeps popping up
[21:58] <hcvay> lspci
[21:58] <hcvay> Atheros Communicaitons INc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[21:58] <en1gma> some are saying get "gnome panel" some are saying get "gnome shell" which one is it?
[21:58] <msilveira> CharminTheMoose, don't know why going from auto to manual wifi would effect sleep mode. Unless, previously being in wifi auto the wifi manager was preventing it from going fully to sleep in the first place
[21:58] <en1gma> i want the one that was in 11.04 the classic gnome
[21:58] <en1gma> or really close to it...basically i just hate that side bar
[21:59] <mikla> sidebar ftw
[21:59] <denysonique_x> en1gma: you can chose gnome at login
[21:59] <yekoms> sudo unlink /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop is what i was suggested but i dont know if this will work properly
[21:59] <en1gma> omg its so slow
[21:59] <en1gma> yea i want to chose at login
[21:59] <denysonique_x> en1gma: isn't that possible now?
[21:59] <mikla> u can chose by default
[21:59] <en1gma> but i am in a VM using VM vcard drivers...dont know if that means anything
[21:59] <djjonex> in the terminal if u pit sudo start mysql it says is running  but if i put mysql -u root -p it give me error 2002 Cant connect to local mysql server through socket....
[21:59] <en1gma> it used to be possible in 11.04
[21:59] <denysonique_x> en1gma: vm slows unity and other graphics down
[22:00] <denysonique_x> en1gma: then you probably have manually removed gnome
[22:00] <en1gma> yea i want the old 2d classic gnome...no compiz
[22:00] <denysonique_x> en1gma: what do you have now?
[22:00] <en1gma> i havent done anything yet
[22:00] <en1gma> brand new install 11.10 i386 desktop...but when i boot it starts me in term and then i type "startx"
[22:00] <en1gma> and i get to desktoop
[22:01] <hcvay> wireless device missing after reboot
[22:01] <hcvay> Atheros Communicaitons INc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[22:01] <en1gma> only have done updates...everything else is default
[22:02] <robin0800> !notunity | en1gma
[22:02] <en1gma> ok thanks
[22:03] <Daditos> I downloaded ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso but then I saw there's a DVD for both install and live usage... I intend to use it to install in the same partitions I once used for and older version (and now I've formatted).  The CD will allow me to boot and install, right?
[22:04] <msilveira> Daditos, yes installing implies booting
[22:05] <Daditos> ok, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some kind of live cd only and implied installing through windows (Like wubi or similar).  Thanks
[22:06] <bemabubba> This is my first irc, so hello
[22:08] <blip-> hi all, I had ubuntu 11.04 and just did a distro upgrade.  When it reached the end it exited with an error (it told me completed but with errors).  I restarted and it works fine and lsb_release shows 11.10.  is there anything i should do at this point to make sure all is fine ?
[22:09] <BarkingFish> bemabubba, Hello. Welcome to IRC :)  If you need to know anything on here, #freenode is the network help channel, there's offtopic chat in #defocus, and also in #ubuntu-offtopic.  We're a nice, friendly group of people, if you need any help, just ask for it :)
[22:10] <hcvay> hey guys can someone help me with a network device in 10.04
[22:11] <msilveira> what's the network device?
[22:11] <hcvay> thanks msilveira:  Atheros Communicaitons INc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[22:12] <hcvay> its actually a D-Link WDA-2320
[22:12] <msilveira> what's problem?
[22:12] <djjonex> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[22:12] <share> there are no problems, only solutions
[22:12] <msilveira> what are the symptoms, hcvay?
[22:13] <hcvay> been using it for years and now it does not load properly because my network-manager is not showing and wireless devices
[22:13] <hcvay> however lspci shows the Atheros Communicaitons INc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[22:13] <C_K_> if i burned a .iso image of unbent on my pc should the mac boot from it?
[22:13] <C_K_> ubunut*
[22:13] <C_K_> u
[22:13] <msilveira> is it still the same etnx it was before?
[22:14] <msilveira> sorry "eth-x"
[22:14] <msilveira> like eth0, eth1, etc
[22:14] <Nukeador> HI
[22:14] <hcvay> it was wlan0 however  ifconfig no longer show a wlan0
[22:14] <Nukeador> Could someone ping Ubuntu QA to get attention on this critical Libreoffice Calc bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/873702
[22:15] <msilveira> does ifconfig show any wlan-x's?
[22:15] <Nukeador> Or at least raise bug priority to give it more visibility
[22:15] <hcvay> yes 'eth0' and the loopback
[22:16] <msilveira> do you have another net card besides the wifi?
[22:16] <hcvay> its the only wifi card.. i do have a modem
[22:16] <msilveira> modems aren't usually called eth-anthing
[22:17] <hcvay> i tried switching the PCI slots of the modem and wifi card to see if that would help anything
[22:17] <msilveira> maybe it got renamed from wlan0 to eth0?
[22:17] <hcvay> well i have a ethernet card as well
[22:18] <msilveira> ok, that's what I'd asked about
[22:18] <Timmit> boot up : get to login page : but there's these little squares in the top left of the screen blinking black and white, and my scroll lock is flashing on and off. Can type text in login box but it's not accepting. Hit reset. It does it again, but i can login this time.
[22:18] <hcvay> sorry misunderstood you
[22:18] <hcvay> yes i have one intergrated into the motherboard
[22:18] <Timmit> I've kinda poked through all the logs and can't find anything to explain what caused that
[22:18] <msilveira> can you find any entries in your dmesg for the wifi card?
[22:18] <C_K_> if burn unbent onto a cd with a pc will mac boot from it?
[22:18] <C_K_> ubunut
[22:19] <C_K_> ubuntu
[22:19] <hcvay> let me see
[22:19] <Timmit> this computer doesn't have a wifi card i'm pretty sure
[22:19] <hcvay> checking....
[22:20] <Timmit> the two lan ports on the motherboard are disabled even (using an PCI card since linux hates that particular network card)
[22:20] <manas_> hi, ive just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and trying to connect my mobile broad band but it doesnt show up
[22:20] <Timmit> err, disabled in bios i mean
[22:20] <manas_> ??
[22:20] <Nathen> How do i use my airlink101 drivers for linux?
[22:20] <BarkingFish> hcvay, Does the wireless device detect in your terminal? If you do iwconfig - do you see it in that list?
[22:22] <manas_> my mobile broadband worked before but it wont now!!!
[22:22] <hcvay> msilveira - looking but dont see anything... should dmesg | grep Atheros bring up something?
[22:22] <denysonique_x> manas_: what country/network/modem?
[22:23] <zeroedout> manas_: you ahve to manually add it. click network settigns, click the mobile broadband tab, check the settings there
[22:23] <manas_> Italy/WIND
[22:23] <manas_> ive already done that
[22:23] <zeroedout> you can make sure linux detected it by going to the command line and typing lspci
[22:23] <manas_> it worked once
[22:23] <msilveira> hcvay, if the system called it "Atheros" before, then that should work
[22:24] <hcvay> okay then nothing in the dmesg
[22:24] <manas_> ive configured it already
[22:24] <djjonex> sudo mysql start .... ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[22:24] <msilveira> hcvay, the card might have come unseated, or be burned out
[22:24] <manas_> it sdid work then but now after i restarted it its not
[22:24] <soreau> hcvay: What is the output of 'lspci|grep Network'?
[22:24] <hcvay> okay i did move it to a different PCI slot
[22:24] <msilveira> pc hardware doesn;t last forever :(
[22:25] <hcvay> one sec soreau
[22:25] <uklaatu> anyone know if it takes a while for ubuntu one to kick in if i just started an account on it?  i'm trying to publish some photos, getting this -> http://ubuntuone.com/4wvZxkDfcukHU1zT7JHqja
[22:25] <hcvay> Atheros Communicaitons INc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[22:25] <soreau> msilveira: It's not very likely the card is broken though not inconceivable either
[22:25] <denysonique_x> uklaatu: try dropbox
[22:25] <hcvay> 05:01.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communicaitons Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[22:25] <soreau> hcvay: Does 'lsmod|grep ath' show anything?
[22:26] <uklaatu> denysonique_x: i'd rather try neither, tbh, but i'm writing an article on ubuntu and was trying out ubuntu one.  is it not considered production ready?
[22:26] <msilveira> ok, so it was in your dmesg after all
[22:26] <soreau> msilveira: lspci
[22:26] <hcvay> no msilveira not in dmesg
[22:27] <msilveira> hcvay. you might try going to /etc/udev/rules.d and see if it's gotten renamed to something strange in your persistant net rules
[22:28] <hcvay> soreau yes here is the output.. hard cause i am typing on laptop to you guys and desktop has no network but
[22:28] <hcvay> ath5k              121632  0
[22:28] <hcvay> mac80211       205402 1 ath5k
[22:28] <hcvay> ath                   7611     1 ath5k
[22:28] <hcvay> cfg80211          126112  3 ath5k, mac80211, ath
[22:28] <FloodBot1> hcvay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <soreau> hcvay: And iwconfig shows no wireless interface?
[22:28] <hcvay> that is correct soreau
[22:29] <soreau> hcvay: Well that is strange.. can you pastebin the output of 'iwconfig && dmesg|grep ath' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[22:29] <hcvay> let me see one sec
[22:30] <kdog> Anyone reporting printer issues with 11.10? Both of my Xerox printers now don't print. Grrr.
[22:30] <uklaatu> kdog: ricoh and epsons here, tested fine.
[22:30] <uklaatu> kdog: how are you printing to them?  lpd or usb or what?
[22:30] <wiredfool> ok, now this is strange. I have a machine that hangs with apparent HW issues on 10.04LTS (installed, and from key, and installed with the 3.0.0 kernel) and from 11.04, but works with windows and 11.10
[22:31] <hcvay> stay with me one sec
[22:31] <msilveira> hcvay, ok
[22:31] <Arcas> hiya, I'm looking to make a seperate /home partition on a separate drive. How can I do this without completely reinstalling ??
[22:32] <msilveira> Arcas, you could use fdisk and mkdir :)
[22:32] <Corey> Arcas: Simple.
[22:32] <kdog> uklaatu, they are on the network. I set them up in the printing gui
[22:32] <Corey> Arcas: Create the new partition, mount it somewhere else.  Migrate the data onto it.  Mount the new partion to /home.  The end.
[22:32] <Timmit> anyone? : boot up : get to login page : but there's these little squares in the top left of the screen blinking black and white, and my scroll lock is flashing on and off. Can type text in login box but it's not accepting. Hit reset. It does it again, but i can login this time.
[22:32] <hcvay> http://pastebin.com/3kwHwjC8
[22:33] <Arcas> okay, so I'll need the UUID to edit fstab and make it automactic right?
[22:33] <robin0800> kdog, printer or printers app which one?
[22:34] <msilveira> hcvay, you've got hardware problems with the wifi card
[22:34] <kdog> robin0800, I just opened dash and typed print. "Printing" is what it is named.
[22:34] <soreau> hcvay: Yea something is wrong when it tried to initialize the card
[22:35] <bekor> hi,is it necessary to have compiz for unity 2 to work?
[22:35] <msilveira> hcvay, was the card working before you moved it to a different slot?
[22:35] <kdog> robin0800, the about says "system-config-printer 1.3.6"
[22:35] <cameron_> hey all - what browsers do you use? is it normal that firefox 4 is the "latest version" for me?
[22:35] <robin0800> kdog, that one dosen't work very well
[22:35] <soreau> hcvay: Make sure all the PCI finger leads are clean and insert it into the slot where it was working last
[22:35] <hcvay> it was working yesterday and earlier today then all of a sudden stop working.. thats when i moved it to a new slot to test it out
[22:35] <kdog> robin0800, which would you suggest? :-)
[22:36] <robin0800> kdog, the other one is in /usr/share/applications
[22:36] <msilveira> hcvay, if it failed in the same sot it was last working in, don't bother moving it
[22:36] <soreau> hcvay: Clean the card up and make sure it's fully seated when installing it
[22:36] <mlncn> Can anyone see why http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=681632 is locked?  it may have the answer to what thesaurus program to use  :-
[22:37] <hcvay> alright will do ... i am a little techy but wanted to make sure i am not missing anything here on the software side
[22:37] <msilveira> hcvay, umm does this card work right now with some other OS like maybe windows?
[22:37] <soreau> mlncn: apt-cache search thesaurus
[22:37] <LLLLL> I'm getting weird packet loss on Ubuntu 11.10.  Anywhere between 15 and 65%.  It seems that every 3 or 4 minutes the network connection dies for a few seconds and then comes back.  I've tried different cables and a new NIC.  The strager thing is that when I run a windows virtual machine on my ubuntu host, the windows vm gets absolutely no packet lock, even during the moments when ubuntu can't download or ping anything.  I am pretty su
[22:37] <hcvay> ill have to try that out.. i dont have another pc to test it.. but i might try a live CD and see what happens
[22:37] <soreau> hcvay: It recognizes the card and loads the correct kernel module for it but fails to initialize the hardware
[22:38] <soreau> hcvay: Yes also try a live session
[22:38] <kdog> robin0800, err, I'm not seeing one in there :-/
[22:38] <soreau> hcvay: Or any other OS to see if the card is working
[22:38] <hcvay> you got it soreau...  that is what i thought but had to double check and i am not as familiar with the linux devices as i am microsoft at this point
[22:38] <robin0800> kdog, you should see two
[22:39] <hcvay> thanks guys ill do some testing and either hit up the room again or get a new card - thanks again :-)
[22:39] <kdog> robin0800, that directory just has a whole bunch of .desktop text files in it
[22:39] <msilveira> oh hcvay, if you do remove the card again, check the contacts in the pci slot to see if any of them are bent
[22:39] <soreau> msilveira: or dirty.. already said that
[22:39] <hcvay> will do     msilveira
[22:40] <robin0800> kdog, correct but you can double click them
[22:40] <Narc> Hey all. Is anyone else having trouble receiving messages on MSN with empathy on Oneiric ..?
[22:40] <soreau> Narc: I wouldn't call it trouble since I don't use MSN
[22:40] <graphics4me> Does anyone thing it'll be a good idea if these closed sourced graphic ccard driver makers would make an open source plugin that will natively work with any closed source binary
[22:41] <soreau> graphics4me: That makes absolutely no sense
[22:41] <msilveira> they did that once, it was called vesa
[22:41] <soreau> graphics4me: What program are you trying to run?
[22:41] <kdog> robin0800, oh. I'm looking at them in terminal. Still, the only ones with print in the name are system-config-printer.desktop and gnome-printers-panel.desktop. Am I missing a package or two?
[22:42] <Narc> soreau: Well, my question was directed to people using it, obviously. :)
[22:42] <TrD> it is possible to add a temperature applet on gnome panel i have the Ubuntu 11.10 version
[22:42] <graphics4me> soreau: I'm just investing for the future of ubuntu, I want to get a nice graphic card.
[22:42] <jakemp-home> how can I get a shell script to execute from the unity dash, instead of opening it in gedit?
[22:42] <basilfaulty> hi, could you tell me how to change my system proxy on 10.10?
[22:42] <soreau> graphics4me: If you want supported open source drivers, select radeon
[22:42] <msilveira> graphics4me, it depends on whether you want it for gaming or not
[22:43] <soreau> jakemp-home: Tried specifying the full path?
[22:43] <basilfaulty> gfx for not game? what then for?
[22:43] <graphics4me> msilveira: I want to be able to use a butt load of dynamic graphical features.
[22:43] <soreau> graphics4me: Then you want nvidia with proprietary drivers
[22:43] <robin0800> kdog, one of them is the one you saw in dash and the other one dash dosen't pull and is the one I always use
[22:43] <msilveira> if you want just graphics without the gaming, a high end matrox would also be good, and well supported
[22:44] <soreau> msilveira: matrox can't even do 3D or run compiz
[22:44] <basilfaulty> matrox? is this 1995?
[22:44] <msilveira> can too
[22:44] <soreau> msilveira: wrong
[22:44] <msilveira> I said high end, not ancient
[22:44] <basilfaulty> aww go on, tell me the proxy text file, pls pls pls
[22:45] <jakemp-home> soreau, I just want to be able to hit the win key and stype shellscript (or shellscript.sh) and have it run. It sees the shellscript, but it just opens it in gedit. If I just type shellscript in a terminal, It works.
[22:45] <malina> omg, do people even use ubuntu any longer? isn't like windows..
[22:45] <soreau> jakemp-home: Try running it with bash -c script
[22:45] <malina> thought it was gone in '99 or so
[22:46] <gsr> Hi all. I'm using Gnome Classic (2.31) in 11.04.  From what I've read, in 11.10 the only choice is between Unity and Gnome Shell.  Is there any way I can keep using Gnome 2.x in Oneiric?
[22:46] <soreau> jakemp-home: Which makes me wonder if you have #!/bin/bash at the top of the file and it does in fact have the executable bit set
[22:46] <kdog> robin0800, I'm finding lots of other people with the same issues on google. I'll keep looking for a solution. None of the other deb packages look like they'd help.
[22:46] <jakemp-home> soreau, it is, it's matlab
[22:46] <graphics4me> soreau: Oh and what  I mentioned before as soon as I came here, I meant a program (basically, a wrapper that'll translate all graphic card capabilities & secrets into a list of features that linux  ccan see and use).
[22:46] <jakemp-home> also, that bash -c didn't work
[22:47] <basilfaulty> ooh.. just goddam HTTP_PROXY env var.. $%£^$$&^%$*^£"£"^"£$%£&!
[22:47] <robin0800> kdog, did you try both of those?
[22:47] <soreau> graphics4me: You are sadly misunderstanding how graphics drivers work
[22:47] <basilfaulty> screw you guys...
[22:47] <basilfaulty> going home
[22:47] <Corey> basilfaulty: Please keep it civil.
[22:48] <basilfaulty> night fellow ubernerds
[22:48] <thier> @gsr: Ubuntu 11.10 is gnome 3.2 based. You have the choice between Unity (default), Unity 2D, Gnome-Shell and Gnome Classic
[22:48] <friendlynoob> hi, is there a way I can easily install google chrome on ubuntu? I don't want chromium
[22:49] <gsr> thier: is gnome classic Gnome 3.2?
[22:49] <robin0800> friendlynoob, yes they have debs for that
[22:49] <manteman> what does me the msg, the installer crashed tell?
[22:49] <msilveira> that it crashed
[22:49] <Your_Dog> lol.
[22:49] <graphics4me> soreau: I just know these big companies will never want to make their drivers open source due to competition and such.  This has to be better than reverse engineering things... If they would translate all their secret stuff into a list of features that everyone would obviously know about which linux can see & just use.
[22:49] <soreau> graphics4me: There are API's such as opengl and directX which are standards and most 3D programs use to do graphics. There is an extension set you must meet to support a particular version of said API. Some hardware simply cannot perform some of these functions. The graphics driver's responsibility is to implement and report what extensions are available for user programs to use
[22:49] <manteman> almost useless error msges, like under windows
[22:50] <thier> @gsr: Yes, but it doesn't use the new Gnome Shell, it use the 2.x era Gnome Panel that has been ported to the Gnome 3 infrastructure
[22:50] <kdog> robin0800, both "Printers" and "Printing" end up at the same place.
[22:50] <gsr> thier: ahh, that should work fine then.  thanks!
[22:50] <soreau> graphics4me: On the contrary, AMD bought ATI a few years back and hired several developers to work full time on the open source radeon driver
[22:51] <manteman> and what does the msg ubi-partmen crashed tell? after 5mins for booting  the installer
[22:51] <msilveira> graphics4me, if you were interested in writing a vesa 3.0 driver, it would have much of what you're asking for
[22:51] <ramon> oi
[22:51] <rotrevrep> I put a media url in the address bar and Firefox crashes ! anyone know why ?
[22:51] <Your_Dog> soreau
[22:51] <Your_Dog> you serious?
[22:51] <ramon> hello
[22:51] <soreau> graphics4me: AMD makes it a point to release hardware specifications in a reasonable fashion so that the developers can produce better drivers, more quickly
[22:51] <robin0800> kdog, they are quite different here
[22:52] <soreau> Your_Dog: Yes, and they've dropped the ATI name officially in favor of Radeon
[22:52] <msilveira> good coolaid?
[22:52] <Your_Dog> hmm.. maybe I should switch from Nvidia to Radeon then.. seems very tempting.
[22:52] <soreau> graphics4me: Intel also releases spec for their hw but their hw really isn't that great
[22:52] <graphics4me> soreau & msilveira: That's nice, and thanks for the info.
[22:52] <kdog> robin0800, can you look at the file name that is being executed and then do "dpkg -L `which filename'" to tell me what package it is from?
[22:52] <rotrevrep> thedoctor : doctor who ? ^^
[22:52] <soreau> graphics4me: nvidia is the only one not releasing hw specs for their cards and refuses to support FOSS drivers
[22:53] <kdog> robin0800, whoops that should be "-S" not -L
[22:53] <bekor> hi,is it necessary to have compiz for unity 2 to work?
[22:53] <graphics4me> And windows/mac just magically out the box supports it... -.- (Does mac even use these?!)
[22:54] <mahgar> sziasztok
[22:54] <soreau> bekor: unity is basically a compiz plugin, yes
[22:54] <bekor> thanks
[22:54] <soreau> bekor: unity is built on top of compiz
[22:54] <mahgar> magyarul tud valaki?
[22:54] <graphics4me> So what those two are doing is basically what vesa is trying to implement, right msilveira ?
[22:54] <manteman> what ist ubi-partman is it for partitioning during install?
[22:54] <Narc> friendlynoob: You can go on the Google Chrome download page, they have downloads available for Linux. You can also add a PPA and install it that way, if you're comfortable with that.
[22:54] <collisonsystm> Does anyone know if the 11.10 download will be updated to include a fix for the Radeon cards that result in a black screen
[22:55] <soreau> graphics4me: No, vesa is a 'catch-all/fallback' driver with no 3D acceleration for any specific device
[22:55] <msilveira> yes, graphics4me. a vesa 3.0 bios implements the sort of thing you're asking for. you just need to write a driver for it
[22:55] <graphics4me> msilveira: That being WIndows, and maybe even mac. (The way they handle/recognize graphics. and how it's supported out the box)
[22:55] <graphics4me> soreau: Ah, gothca.
[22:56] <soreau> msilveira: vesa doesn't do any sort of 3D or use the cards features in any way. All's it does it produce an image on the screen
[22:56] <msilveira> graphics4me, the current "VESA" dirver is just a vesa 1.0 driver, unaccelerated
[22:56] <msilveira> soreau, your knowledge of vesa is way behind the times
[22:57] <rotrevrep> why the upgrade to 11.10 doesn't recognize my dvb stick, while on 11.04, this usb run correctly ?
[22:57] <msilveira> the vesa 3.0 includes all the accleration features of the card
[22:57] <soreau> msilveira: I think you're misunderstanding what graphics4me is asking
[22:58] <rotrevrep> :) no ?
[22:58] <graphics4me> rotrevrep: Giving use details on the brandname and model of that dvb stick may be a good idea... Totally like... /RIGHT NOW!/
[22:58] <TrD> how to remove completely a package including configuration files using terminal please
[22:58] <graphics4me> us*
[22:58] <x0rs> Anyone know if a licensing channel to discuss open source licensing?
[22:58] <msilveira> soreau, graphics4me wants a unified interface to all cards, their zcceration features etc. vesa 3.0 bises have that, but there isn't a vesa 3.0 X driver yet (afaik)
[22:58] <soreau> msilveira: Then it's a theory, not a reality
[22:59] <rcmaehl> Why can't I click on the banshee equalizer menu item
[22:59] <graphics4me> msilveira: At least, just for each brand. One from nvidia, one from AMD, and etc.
[22:59] <rcmaehl> how do I renable the menu item
[22:59] <soreau> msilveira: The reality is vesa cannot exploit any features of any hardware
[22:59] <rotrevrep> graphics4me: an omenex stick with a RTL2832u chipset
[22:59] <robin0800> kdog, the gnome one takes you to system settings and the other one takes you directly to the printer gui but it would appear now as you say they now both point to the same place
[22:59] <msilveira> it does with the bios calls each vesa 3.0 bios includes
[22:59] <rotrevrep> graphics4me: and an avertv volar green hd
[23:00] <soreau> graphics4me: There are open drivers for all vendors. nvidia has the nvidia proprietary driver and nouveau RE'd FOSS driver. Radeon has fglrx proprietary and radeon FOSS driver. Intel only has the intel drivers, kernel modules i9xx
[23:00] <msilveira> each vesa 3.0 bios is tailored by the mfg, with a somewhat standardized interfaces
[23:01] <soreau> msilveira: Can you show a link to some information supporting what you're saying?
[23:01] <Timmit> also, Anyone? : "boot up : get to login page : but there's these little squares in the top left of the screen blinking black and white, and my scroll lock is flashing on and off. Can type text in login box but it's not accepting. Hit reset. It does it again, but i can login this time. Do software reset and things come back on fine. But i can't find anything in the logs to explain what the heck goes on
[23:01] <kdog> robin0800, googling didn't come up with an answer. Something must have gotten fouled with cups. I also have the issue that unity bit the dust (no launcher or top bar) and I'm in unity-2d.
[23:02] <soreau> Timmit: It's a kernel panic, often times caused by a bug in a kernel driver (such as graphics or wifi)
[23:02] <fosburg> Any one here understand Scribus Desktop Publishing?
[23:02] <Timmit> soreau, there a log i should be searching?
[23:02] <rcmaehl> I can pastebin the terminal output if needed
[23:02] <manteman> may some one can tell me, i upgraded my laptop from 11.04 to 11.10 today. after that it stopped booting with the ubuntu logo on the screen or sometimes with a black screen... i have a ati radeon hd mobility .. is there a problem with ubuntu or my configuration?
[23:02] <kdog> robin0800, I installed gnome shell and ran with that for a couple days. Printing didn't work there either and to make matters worse my bluetooth mouse wouldn't either (at least it works in unity-2d).
[23:02] <irule> #webmaster
[23:02] <Timmit> I was poking around so i could find what triggered, but most of the main ones don't list anything
[23:02] <soreau> Timmit: Perhaps /var/log/syslog or messages
[23:03] <Timmit> tried kern.log, syslog, dmesg, even xorg... unless i missed the text. hmm
[23:03] <soreau> Timmit: or the dmesg files in said folder
[23:03] <msilveira> yawn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions, go to the section on vbe/af. actually that wiki article is also behind the times
[23:03] <Timmit> soreau, you mean those dmesg.1, 2, 3,4 ?
[23:03] <robin0800> kdog, I like gnome classic with compiz and configurable panels
[23:04] <soreau> Timmit: right, should be logs from previous boots
[23:04] <graphics4me> soreau & msilveira: Wow, this is such a drag, so after ubuntu is installed, theres no XCHAT on it. Noticed the decline in numbers of Ubuntu heads in here?
[23:04] <Timmit> ok thanks, i haven't checked those. and the previous two boots should be the ones i want to probe.
[23:04] <rotrevrep> it is curious that this stick worked on previous release ! :(
[23:04] <soreau> robin0800: How do you get configurable panels? When I installed gnome-panel on 11.10 live session, I couldn't even right click on it
[23:04] <wiredfool> try alt click
[23:05] <DeLorean719> is there a good way to graphically remote control an Ubuntu box from a Windows machine?
[23:05] <msilveira> graphic4me, arguing gives me a heachache. see you sometime
[23:05] <kdog> robin0800, yup, I'm living on the bleeding edge. Maybe I should just run with crunchbang :-)
[23:05] <soreau> Timmit: Maybe try something like 'egrep -i "error|panic" /var/log/dmesg'
[23:05] <soreau> Timmit: -Rin
[23:06] <soreau> Timmit: egrep -Rin "error|panic" /var/log/dmesg
[23:06] <robin0800> soreau, you use alt click or super + alt if you have compiz running thou that needs a hack to work
[23:06] <Timmit> soreau, Thanks i'll give it a shot
[23:06] <soreau> graphics4me: Solution: Install xchat
[23:07] <rotrevrep> soreau: haha
[23:07] <soreau> robin0800: To right click on gnome-panel?
[23:07] <sacrebleu> Apache2 shuts down for some unknown reason on Monday mornings, does anyone know why??
[23:07] <rcmaehl> Also, why is there 2 battery indicators on my netbook?
[23:07] <soreau> robin0800: So try alt+left click
[23:07] <bigbang> i am getting permision denied(pubkey error) when i was trying to do ssh to remote machine
[23:07] <graphics4me> soreau: Thanks, but that's not my issue, I'm a regular helper here. A lot of folks running into huge upgrade related issues.
[23:07] <Timmit> huh. almost forgot to ask about this
[23:08] <Timmit> soreau, this part doesn't have anything to do with it does it? "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel."
[23:08] <robin0800> soreau, no the hack is to get compiz working
[23:08] <soreau> Timmit: Well it means you're using the proprietary nvidia driver which could very well have caused the panic
[23:08] <rhizmoe> is there a better workspace switcher yet?
[23:08] <soreau> robin0800: I know how to get compiz running, I just couldn't configure gnome-panel in gnome3
[23:09] <rhizmoe> (than the default unity one, i mean)
[23:09] <soreau> rhizmoe: There's compiz desktop wall and cube, viewport switcher, expo etc.
[23:09] <Timmit> darn. dmesg logs don't have anything interesting error message wise.
[23:09] <robin0800> soreau,if you f
[23:09] <lucasm> Is there any way to turn of automatic screen dimming for laptops in Oneiric?
[23:10] <rhizmoe> soreau: you mean that all of those are under compiz, or are you referring to super-s expo, the default sidebar switcher, and the compiz cube?
[23:10] <soreau> rhizmoe: I mean unity is a compiz plugin
[23:11] <robin0800> soreau,if you start gnome classic it fails to load compiz and it ends up in fallback mode
[23:11] <Timmit> hmm. well thanks. i know what logs to keep an eye on and i've saved these past two for comparison later. Not enough data to make any other discoveries unless this recurs. Hopefully it won't
[23:11] <moses> is LAMP apache?
[23:11] <rhizmoe> soreau: right, but are you describing a different expo than the super-s one?
[23:11] <soreau> robin0800: I don't care about that. I *already know* how to use compiz. I just couldn't configure gnome-panel in gnome3
[23:11] <moses> whats the best way to install apache onto ubuntu server?
[23:11] <graphics4me> robin0800: Unity is a 3D desktop, you'll be pushed into unity 2d if you do not meet the requirements.
[23:11] <soreau> rhizmoe: no
[23:12] <rhizmoe> soreau: right, so i'm looking for something other than the three you listed :)
[23:12] <rhizmoe> moses: doesn't matter. whatever is easiest for you.
[23:12] <soreau> rhizmoe: What do you want your switcher to do specifically?
[23:12] <bigbang> i am getting permision denied(pubkey error) when i was trying to do ssh to remote machine
[23:12] <graphics4me> moses: Yes and no.        LAMP means "Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP".             Vist #Apache #MySQL and #Php for details on each of those.
[23:13] <rhizmoe> soreau: well, it would be nice to have a mousewheel-controlled one like in gnome 2.
[23:13] <graphics4me> moses: Actually, for apache, the channel may actually be #httpd
[23:13] <soreau> rhizmoe: That's provided by viewport switcher
[23:13] <soreau> rhizmoe: (a compiz plugin)
[23:13] <rhizmoe> do you mean 'indicator-workspaces'?
[23:14] <robin0800> graphics4me, I know and I have unity 3d on this old laptop but don't like unity on the desktop
[23:14] <soreau> rhizmoe: I meant exactly what I said
[23:14] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I change the terminal locale temporarily?
[23:14] <rhizmoe> soreau: sorry, didn't mean to offend you.
[23:14] <soreau> MrDudle: By setting LANG variable in most cases
[23:14] <tomodachi> MrKeuner: in gnome-terminal check the drop-down menus
[23:15] <MrKeuner> tomodachi, in terminal?
[23:15] <soreau> rhizmoe: You're not offending, you're just annoying
[23:15] <ezra-s> I am trying to upgrade from maverick to 11.04 but the upgrade-manager keeps saying "publishing notes have not been found" or a message of that fashion but in spanish.. Any tips?
[23:15] <MrKeuner> tomodachi, trying to change the output of date
[23:15] <soreau> ezra-s: Install cleanly
[23:15] <soreau> MrDudle: man date
[23:15] <ezra-s> soreau, that's not a solution, that is the worst workaround
[23:15] <rhizmoe> soreau: i thought i was pretty clear
[23:16] <bigbang> i am getting permision denied(pubkey error) when i was trying to do ssh to remote machine
[23:16] <bigbang> i am getting permision denied(pubkey error) when i was trying to do ssh to remote machine
[23:16] <SIFTU> bigbang: maybe you didnt copy your public key to the server
[23:17] <graphics4me> ezra-s: Actually, it's better for /THIS TIME/ as there are quitea few people (If not, a whole lot) complaining about random things breaking after upgrading. TBH, you're better off staying on 11.04. Only clean install for bug fixes if you're qaiting for a bugfix.
[23:17] <soreau> MrDudle: Or date --help. Something like this will output.. well just try it: date +%a\ %A
[23:17] <graphics4me> ezra-s: Otherwise, experiment and have fun breaking things.
[23:17] <ezra-s> graphics4me, I said from maverick to 11.04
[23:17] <soreau> ezra-s: Install cleanly
[23:17] <ezra-s> and I have upgraded 3 boxes already to 11.10 without fault
[23:17] <RPG-Master> I'm trying to use Ubuntu in a virtualbox as a roundabout way of accessing my ext4 harddrives in mac os x. I have been following this guide up to the terminal part, but when I plug in anything it doesn't show up in Ubuntu. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mac-os-x-read-ext3-ext4-external-usb-hard-disk-partition/
[23:18] <ezra-s> soreau, please do not talk to me
[23:18] <soreau> ezra-s: Fresh install is the best way
[23:18] <SpaceWeed> I was wondering, if anyone call tell me why the subnet mask of 127.0.0.1 is only 8 bits, why reserve that many addresses to one function?
[23:18] <\u03b5> anyone able to load http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637937 ?
[23:18] <bigbang> SIFTU, what configuration I have to set in ssh_config file
[23:18] <qin> MrKeuner: export TZ="/usr/share/zoneinfo/Universal"
[23:18] <RPG-Master> While no usb devices are being picked up by ubuntu, my VB installation sees them and shows them in the devices menu, which says they are enabled.
[23:19] <soreau> SpaceWeed: Try ##networking
[23:19] <SpaceWeed> \u03b5: not without a login
[23:19] <ezra-s> soreau, I can't fresh install, darn it, I have to upgrade
[23:19] <\u03b5> you can once logged in?
[23:20] <soreau> ezra-s: Can't you just backup and install fresh?
[23:20] <stwange> how can I stop my 11.04 system from reverting to "same image in both monitors" within 30 seconds of logging in? I've got a script to fix it a minute after login, but I shouldn't have to
[23:20] <ezra-s> soreau, it would take too long, what kind of solution is that anyway?
[23:20] <Druid_> Can someone help me with os/2?
[23:20] <soreau> stwange: Open gnome-display-properties, select the mode you want then make it default
[23:20] <stwange> soreau, have you tried turning it off and on again? xD
[23:21] <johnjohn101> druid_ are you serious?
[23:21] <soreau> stwange: what?
[23:21] <stwange> soreau, I've tried that, it's set to default, but reverts 30-60 seconds after boot
[23:21] <wiredfool> stwange: Mine was doing that with a phantom laptop panel for a while, yay 1024x768 on a 20"lcd
[23:21] <Nate_> hi
[23:21] <soreau> stwange: Then it's a bug. File a bug report
[23:21] <Druid_> johnjohn101 no :) just wondered how many in here know what os/2 is
[23:22] <stwange> soreau, can you tell me how to retrieve my display driver please? And ignore my first comment it was directed at the wrong person
[23:22] <stwange> wiredfool, did you ever manage to resolve it?
[23:22] <Nate_> how do i install a airlink 101 drivers for linux, i have NO internet access on linux at this time
[23:23] <wiredfool> stwange: yes, I managed to pass in a kernel command line option to ignore the lvds output
[23:23] <soreau> stwange: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what driver it's using
[23:23] <JetJagurXP> Do you have to install the Gnome desktop environment if you want to use Gnome Shell?
[23:23] <wiredfool> stwange: if you haven't messed with xrandr, it's useful
[23:23] <Nate_> how do i install a airlink 101 drivers for linux, i have NO internet access on linux at this time
[23:23] <Nate_> how do i install a airlink 101 drivers for linux, i have NO internet access on linux at this time
[23:24] <soreau> ! repeat | Nate_
[23:24] <stwange> Nate_, your messages are coming through just find
[23:24] <stwange> *fine
[23:24] <stwange> wiredfool, the script I knocked together uses xrandr to fix it, but it's only a hack :) trouble with it reverting 30-60s after boot is that I can't just "fix" it on boot
[23:24] <soreau> Nate_: Can you show the line from the output of 'lsusb' for your device?
[23:25] <wiredfool> stwange: that's really obnoxious.
[23:25] <Nate_> ????
[23:25] <soreau> Nate_: Run lsusb in your terminal and post the line for your usb wifi device here
[23:25] <lashab> guys, how to install a program in Ububtu? Something written about /configure .make and etc. But I have no idea.
[23:26] <Nate_> um im in windows now i can come back and post it
[23:26] <werever> hi my ubuntu 11.10 only have 1 desktop, any ideas how add more desktops and desktops launcher on unity? thank you folks
[23:26] <soreau> lashab: Usually you want to install from ubuntu repos. What program is it?
[23:26] <qin> lashab: What program?
[23:26] <JetJagurXP> !repeat
[23:27] <JetJagurXP> !repeat | jetjaguarxp
[23:27] <JetJagurXP> sheesh
[23:27] <stwange> Nate_, can you not plug an ethernet cable into your laptop temporarily to fix this?
[23:27] <stwange> otherwise it's going to be a nightmare
[23:27] <qin> JetJagurXP: Repeating twice facoid !repeat is hipocrytical.
[23:27] <soreau> Nate_: It's going to be extremely difficult to help get it working if you aren't logged on here from ubuntu already
[23:27] <Nate_> no i have a mifi internet
[23:27] <The_Jag> I've just installed the new 11.10 and I'd like to restore my old previous users and homes. Is there a convenient way to achieve this?
[23:27] <soreau> Nate_: Yes, use an ethernet cable if at all possible
[23:28] <stwange> wiredfool, do you know the ignore lvds output kernel flag? I've googled but can only find patches... I'd rather not risk it on my work laptop :)
[23:28] <Narc> JetJagurXP: You are are already using Gnome if you're using default Ubuntu, Unity is just another shell for it. If you want to use Gnome Shell, select "GNOME" on login if you're using Ubuntu 11.10.
[23:28] <JetJagurXP> K
[23:28] <Nate_> i have a mobile broadband mifi wifi device, no cord :(
[23:28] <wiredfool> it's in here: https://github.com/wiredfool/ubuntu_11.10_tweaks/blob/master/grub
[23:28] <stwange> The_Jag, did you back /home up or store it on a different partition?
[23:28] <wiredfool> stwange: video=LVDS-1:d
[23:29] <The_Jag> stwange: I have /home in a different partition, so it's ready to use
[23:29] <The_Jag> *be used
[23:29] <werever> hi my ubuntu 11.10 only have 1 desktop(workspace), any ideas how add more workspaces? thank you folks
[23:30] <Nate_> Ill get on desk top ill be back bye :) ☺
[23:30] <stwange> wiredfool, if I pass that straight to the end of the kernel line in menu.lst, that should work right? It doesn't have to be in grub.cfg?
[23:30] <stwange> The_Jag, is that partition mounted at the moment? Ie. can you see the files?
[23:30] <The_Jag> yes
[23:31] <stwange> are they in /home?
[23:31] <The_Jag> yes
[23:31] <stwange> ok sorry for my ignorance :) what *exactly* isn't working?
[23:32] <The_Jag> I just reinstalled the system
[23:32] <stwange> ah and now the users are missing?
[23:32] <The_Jag> yes
[23:32] <The_Jag> correct
[23:33] <stwange> people will shout at me for suggesting this, but if you backed up /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow from the old installation, just copying those two files back into place should do the trick, might want to reboot afterwards. Make sure you backup the current ones first
[23:34] <desti_T2> http://www.desura.com/groups/desura/news/desura-linux-super-mega-game-update
[23:34] <The_Jag> I don't have the old one, since /etc wasn't in the same partition.
[23:34] <The_Jag> so
[23:34] <The_Jag> I was thinking to bind the crrent user to my old home
[23:34] <The_Jag> could this work?
[23:35] <stwange> where is the old home, and what's the new home? and what are the two users called?
[23:36] <The_Jag> old user-home: /home/fabio; new user: pippo
[23:36] <Mogga> can someone help me with a virtuallization question? trying to make a decision on how to attach an iscsi volume - should i do it on the host machine and mount the block level device virtually or use a bridge of my interface and connect the iscsi within the virtual machine
[23:36] <The_Jag> I should just edit passwd file?
[23:36] <lucasm> Is there a way to remove the automatic dimming while running on battery power?
[23:37] <dassouki> how can I fix my locales issue ?
[23:37] <stwange> it's best to use the usermod command
[23:37] <The_Jag> ok
[23:37] <The_Jag> let me try then
[23:37] <stwange> to change the home directory The_Jag, usermod --home /new/home/directory new_username
[23:37] <The_Jag> stwange: is there a way to change the username also?
[23:38] <The_Jag> Or do I have to create another one?
[23:39] <stwange> The_Jag, usermod --login new_username old_username
[23:39] <The_Jag> stwange: Ah! Great! thanks!
[23:40] <johnjohn101> happy birthday ubuntu.
[23:42] <Nate_> HELLO NATE IS BACK!!!! :)
[23:43] <stwange> welcome back Nate_ :)
[23:44] <stwange> Windows NT 6.1 still I see :(
[23:45] <memduh> hi
[23:45] <memduh> hi evry body
[23:45] <johnjohn101> hello
[23:47] <Bularthip> Hello all
[23:47] <Nate_> hi
[23:48] <digitalslave> what audio engine is defualt for 11.10?
[23:48] <Nate_> ok im on my desktop now but i still have no internet to my UBUNTU, how do i use the driver disk in ubuntu
[23:48] <Pici> digitalslave: pulseaudio w/ alsa
[23:48] <lnbwhit> hey guys still having problems with my network can anyone please help
[23:48] <Nate_> for my usb wifi device
[23:49] <digitalslave> anyone figure out how to fix surround sound on 11.10 with intel HDA?
[23:49] <Bularthip> I'd need some help with setting my partition to mount on system startup. I'm meet some problems with it, anyone available to help me out?
[23:50] <lnbwhit> its been 3 days now and I still can't get wired or wireless to work anyone pls help thanks
[23:50] <zelozelos> Bularthip, you want to automount a partition on startup?
[23:51] <zelozelos> Bularthip, use psydm its very easy, and i think is already installed if not its in the software manager
[23:51] <zelozelos> or is it pysdm? one of those 2
[23:52] <Nate_> How do install the drivers for a airlink101 usb wifi device in ubuntu?
[23:52] <zelozelos> Bularthip, its pysdm
[23:52] <Bularthip> zelozelos, yes, I'd like to automount a partition on startup. Already made the mount-point and edited fstab, but still it does not work. I prolly didn't do it correctly :p
[23:53] <digitalslave> Bularthip, what is the line you added to fstab?
[23:53] <Bularthip> Well first of all I'm gonna tell you that I'm not that expert with linux / ubuntu at all. The line is LABEL=name	/media/name	ntfs	defaults	0	2
[23:54] <zelozelos> Bularthip, you should undo any changes you made, then load up the software center, install pysdm it's actual name is "storage device manager" but its easier to find with pysdm
[23:54] <Bularthip> Ah well, installing pysdm at the moment
[23:54] <zelozelos> Bularthip, then ill walk you through that program, its very easy as i said, just a click away from starting up
[23:55] <zelozelos> ;)
[23:55] <Bularthip> I'll undo the line on fstab but how about the mount-point I made with the mkdir -command?
[23:55] <digitalslave> Bularthip, LABEL=name should be the actual disk device like /dev/sdb1
[23:55] <zelozelos> Bularthip, if i was you id undo any changes already made, as far as the mkdir idk how to undo it
[23:57] <mosno> how can i check if 3d hw accel is enabled?
[23:57] <zelozelos> Bularthip, after you get it goin then you can learn the hard way..it will make more sense then because you'll see how it should be while exploring
[23:57] <Bularthip> digitalslave, really? :D I heard I should put LABEL=asdx and stuff as the UUID thingie came while ago
[23:58] <zelozelos> probably sda not sdb
[23:58] <zelozelos> unless its connected via usb or somethin
[23:58] <digitalslave> Bularthip, no the line should be something like /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mehere ext3 rw 0 0
[23:58] <franklet> hey guys, just switched from regular ubuntu and i'm wondering if anyone can help with a couple of questions. 1. when i plug my laptop to an external display i can only get mirroring, how do you set extended desktop? and 2. bluetooth syncs with my mouse and says "pointing" but isnt doing anything. any suggestions?
[23:59] <Bularthip> Well I will now undo the line in fstab, and I'll leave mount-point as I dunno what to do with it and try pysdm
[23:59] <digitalslave> Bularthip, fdisk -l will show you what drives are attached
[23:59] <zelozelos> Bularthip, it may not interfear i dont really know...thats why i use the program instead of the hard way
[23:59] <Bularthip> hmm...
[23:59] <Bularthip> Well I'm all about hard way lol