[11:50] <gnomefreak> can anyone on 12.04 empty the trash bin? either right click and choose to empty or open and try to empty
[11:51] <gnomefreak> here right click doesnt show anything and opening it has empty greyed out, however in that same window i am able to restore files
[12:01] <gnomefreak> also anyone know if deja-dup backs up all files or just the ones that have changed?
[12:09] <iceroot> gnomefreak: first run is all files, the second run is the diff to the first run
[12:09] <gnomefreak> thanks
[12:14] <iceroot> gnomefreak: so dont delete the first backup by hand, let the program handle the rotation
[12:14] <gnomefreak> ok i cant find how to re align the cells in calc. after editing a file you need to reset/realign the cells
[12:14] <gnomefreak> iceroot: got it thanks
[12:17] <gnomefreak> nevermind i found the reset button
[12:18] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:34] <alex-> When was developer summit?
[12:37] <Pici> alex-: It hasn't happened yet.
[12:37] <Pici> !uds
[12:37] <alex-> so at 4 november there is more information?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> some time after the 4th
[12:42] <gnomefreak> they need time to get home and write stuff up and so on
[12:42]  * gnomefreak not here right now
[12:53] <Ian_Corne> but you are!
[12:56] <alex-> gnome-panel haves no installation canidate
[12:59] <alex-> nvm
[14:42] <th_> For Precise Pangolin, Canonical is planning to invest resources in support and maintenance to increase the Ubuntu desktop LTS length from 3 years to 5 years (bringing it up to the same length as the server LTS), and to offer additional updates for new hardware through the standard SRUs and point releases in the first two years of the LTS.
[14:42] <th_> nice
[14:58] <genii-around> Interesting.
[15:37] <Ian_Corne> iceroot:
[15:37] <Ian_Corne> were you the kernel panic guy?
[15:43] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: yes
[15:44] <Ian_Corne> I think i just had a panic using kernel 3.0.9
[15:44] <Ian_Corne> :(
[15:44] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: same for me
[15:45] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: last night. already posted on the bug, maybe you can append your panic too
[15:45] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/869502
[15:45] <Ian_Corne> i did take a picture :)
[15:47] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: ever had one with 3.0.0.11?
[15:48] <iceroot> maybe my tests have just not been long enough with 3.0.0.11
[15:49] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: but you mean 3.1rc9 right?
[15:51] <Ian_Corne> no
[15:51] <Ian_Corne> 3.0.0-9
[15:51] <Ian_Corne> so it's worse :(
[15:55] <iceroot> :(
[15:55] <iceroot> seems whole 3.x is broken
[15:55] <iceroot> for eeepc
[15:56] <Ian_Corne> -9 is the oldest 3.x kernel I've got
[15:56] <Ian_Corne> I'm thinking it's intel's fault
[15:56] <iceroot> i guess its because of 3.1. its acting the same like another os containing 3.1 ... :)
[15:56] <Ian_Corne> :D
[15:56] <iceroot> i even dont know what component is bringing up the panics
[15:57] <iceroot> that would make things easier for me
[15:58] <iceroot> can you append your important news about 3.0.0.9 to that bug?
[15:59] <Ian_Corne> Yes, but my instant upload isn't uploading the picture
[15:59] <Ian_Corne> grr
[15:59] <Ian_Corne> Ah it's busy uploading videos
[15:59] <Ian_Corne> first
[16:01] <iceroot> :)
[17:17] <h31> Hi all. Can experienced Ubuntu users tell, when (from which stage of development) 12.04 will not crash every time?
[17:17] <Ian_Corne> beta1
[17:18] <h31> I want to try it on my machine.
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> should not crash every time
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> this version
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> will crash more then every time
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> !schedule
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> there's not much different from 11.10 anyways yet
[17:20] <h31> Ian_Corne: :(
[17:20] <h31> I wanted to update my 10.04, it's too old and new apps can't work with it.
[17:21] <Ian_Corne> you can update to 11.10
[17:21] <Ian_Corne> there's a setting in update-manager
[17:21] <Ian_Corne> but I've got to go, sorry
[17:24] <kaparen> h31: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[17:28] <h31> kaparen: is Oneiric really stable?
[17:29] <guntbert> h31: it is released, so it is stable - very few changes except security updates
[17:38] <Laibsch> I'm having trouble to bring up my network on a fresh command-line system (precise).  My network card is e100 and rmmod and modproce identifies it as eth0 in syslog.  But "sudo ifup eth0" and "sudo ifconfig eth0 10.10.10.10" tell me the device is not there.
[19:13] <soakda> i have ubuntu 11.10 and have problem with booting fakeraid (dualboot with windows 7), everything installed like a charm, it even booted after installation to both windows and ubuntu but after updating and rebooting one more time i get kernel panic and message that root= is wrong, didn't get any help on #ubuntu..
[19:16] <genii-around> soakda: 11.10 support is now in the regular #ubuntu channel
[19:17] <soakda> genii-around: i know ;/
[19:17] <genii-around> soakda: Sometimes you have to give it a while before someone responds to your question.
[19:18] <soakda> genii-around: i did, but thanks
[20:00] <kjeldahl> This may be of interest to some Unity users who aren't thrilled with the new alt-tab behaviour: https://plus.google.com/107657528816470202239/posts/JDbSe9yGHWM
[21:37] <Laibsch> I'm having trouble to bring up my network on a fresh command-line system (precise).  My network card is e100 and rmmod and modproce identifies it as eth0 in syslog.  But "sudo ifup eth0" and "sudo ifconfig eth0 10.10.10.10" tell me the device is not there.
[23:07] <dajhorn> Laibsch: Check whether `ethtool` recognizes the interface.
[23:16] <Laibsch> dajhorn: "ethtool -i eth0" gives "no such device"
[23:20] <dajhorn> Laibsch: Okay, then you need to go through the motions of troubleshooting and manually plumbing the interface.  Check /proc, /sys, the logs, etc.  Maybe file a bug for the +1 release.
[23:23] <penguin42> Laibsch: Have you tried ifconfig -a     maybe it's not called eth0 any more