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rezbdis it possible to run Ubuntu 11.10 on a netbook of Atom processor 1.66 Ghz with 1 GB RAM ?03:07
bodhizazenyes rezbd03:13
rezbdthanks bodhizazen , but I think it needs atleast pentium 4 processor. I'm afraid will it work for ATOM03:16
bodhizazenrezbd, I run linux on my atom processor03:23
bodhizazenuse a light weight window manager if you wish, xfce is fine03:24
bodhizazenas is fluxbox or openbox03:24
rezbdI don't know how to do it :p03:24
rezbdI'm very beginner03:24
rezbdwhat's your RAM bodhizazen ?03:25
rezbdare you running it on a 1 GB RAM?03:25
bodhizazenmy netbook has 2 gb ram03:32
bodhizazenbut Ubuntu will run just fine on 1 gb03:32
rezbdok :)03:33
bodhizazenrezbd, download xubuntu (xfce) or lubuntu (openbox + lx desktop)03:33
rezbddoes xfce mean Xubuntu?03:33
bodhizazeneither will run fast enough03:33
bodhizazenyes03:33
bodhizazenkde = kubuntu03:33
bodhizazenxfce = xubuntu03:33
bodhizazenlxde = lubuntu03:33
rezbdok. thanks :)03:34
bodhizazenhttp://xwinman.org/03:34
bodhizazenhttp://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/a-5-minute-guide-to-fluxbox/03:34
w30lubuntu picks light (as in small disk space apps) default but you can install whatever, my lubuntu takes up about 3 gig.03:49
w30lubuntu works nice on my 8gig ssd notebook03:50
w30XP and word choked up the whole netbook03:51
sebsebsebhi06:38
philipballewsebsebseb, hello06:39
sebsebsebphilipballew: hi06:39
philipballewwhats up06:39
sebsebsebnot much you?06:40
philipballewsebsebseb, I am just chilling i guess. for much off topic talk there is always #ubuntu-beginners-team06:46
wisevoyagerAssalamualaikum & salam !Malaysia..09:10
wisevoyageranybody here fm m'sia?09:12
wisevoyagerI'd prefer talk in native language..,09:12
g4xyw?09:59
wisevoyager??09:59
g4xywHello Everybody, I am trying to find out how to locate the scource code for the "streamer" utility, can anybody please shove me in the correct direction.10:00
geirhag4xyw: apt-get source streamer10:01
g4xywBrilliant, thanks.10:08
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chuteHello - sorry to bug, but how do you access "connect to server" under Unity (11.10)?19:44
philipballewchute, yeah. its on the top bar when your looking at the desktop19:45
philipballewyour not bugging. dont worry19:45
philipballewim in debian now so i cant check for you19:46
philipballewchute, that work well>19:48
philipballew?19:48
chuteno :)19:48
chute network is there19:48
chutebut I would like to connect via ssh to my other PC - it was formerly under "Places / connect to server"19:49
chuteand I can't find that option under nautilus in Unity - is there another place? Also tried Dash search but it couldn't find "connect to server"19:51
chutegiving Unity another go after this afternoons "classroom" by jcastro, but it is difficult to find my way around19:54
philipballewyou can ssh through terminal?19:55
philipballewjcastro is a cool dude19:56
chuteyes to both :)19:57
chuteno problem in connecting via ssh directly19:57
chuteit must be there somewhere, I am just to noobish to find it or maybe the nomenclature has changed.19:59
philipballewhow do you like unity?20:00
chutewell, I am giving it a new try - but it sure is different - it feels to Macish nearly :)20:01
philipballewis macish bad?20:03
chutehave tried Xfce as Gnome is dropping 2.x - works nicely too. I see jcastros points and we all know how difficult it is to change the UI. So right now my quest is "connect to server", I use it all the time. Guess a solution would be sshfs, but that is not the point of the exercise20:04
philipballewdid you see the session after jcastro today chute20:04
philipballewalright, ill help you do that.20:04
philipballewlets connect to a server20:05
* philipballew pulls out his laptop20:05
chuteI don't like the menus at the top bar20:05
philipballewhow so?20:05
chutea long mouse movement when you have several small app windows open - but again, I am too noobish in Unity to give a real opinion.20:06
philipballewit took me 2 weeks to get used to it :)20:07
chuteit is all still confusing to me, let me put it that way20:07
philipballewgo to desktop20:07
philipballewfile > connect to server20:07
chuteunder nautilus?20:08
philipballewno.20:08
philipballewwhen the desktop is showing20:09
philipballewlike wallpaper20:09
chuteI found it :)20:09
chutein nautilus File menu, indeed20:09
philipballewthere you go!20:09
chuteis the default browser still nautilus btw?20:10
philipballewyes it is20:10
philipballewi like the tab browsing20:10
chutethanks a lot philipballew, I feel stupid now - it was there under my nose all the time20:10
philipballewits ok20:11
philipballewif you need any help im on here alot.20:11
chuteso it took you two weeks? and now you do all you did before under unity as easily as before or even faster?20:12
philipballewvery much so20:13
philipballewi have my terminal chrome and irc app20:13
philipballewits my main apps20:14
chuteanyhow, thanks a lot again, and I will try a bit harder next time, before bugging you guys20:14
philipballewyou can customize unity20:14
philipballewyou are not bugging :)20:14
chutemaybe a hint on how to create new workspaces?20:14
chuteI seem to have one only20:15
philipballewon the unity pannel there shold be a workspace switcher20:15
philipballew*should20:15
chuteand haven't found yet where to define the number of workspaces20:15
chutepannel is the top bar, right?20:16
philipballewi mean the bar on the side20:17
chuteyes, i tried that20:17
chute4 equal areas here. Top left is a miniature of my desktop and the three other quadrants are black20:18
philipballewtry this20:19
philipballewhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/quickly-adjust-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity-with-indicator-workspaces/20:20
philipballewsomethink to hack on20:20
philipballewI gtg to a swap meet20:20
chutebut I only can click on the miniature desktop (which brings me back to where I started) - clicking on any other part does nothing20:20
chutethanks a lot philipballew20:20
philipballewfeel free to email me with anything20:21
philipballewphilipballew@ubuntu.com20:21
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chuteHello again - are the /home partitions compatible between 10.04 Gnome and 11.10 Unity? I.e. can I overwrite my root partition, installing 11.10, and keep my old /home partition? No major clashes foreseen?21:18
Brutus-chute, good question... Who knows21:27
chuteI'll start with a good backup - thanks, Brutus-21:29
geirhaIn general, software will adapt config files from older versions of the software.21:30
chuterunning 10.04 and 11.10 on the same /home would be risky then, I guess21:38
geirhaSome software may get problematic, but if it's designed somewhat sanely, the older software should just ignore newer/unknown configuration, while the newer software should just ignore older, no-longer-used configuration.21:43
geirhaI haven't tried running two ubuntu versions with the same homedir, so I'm mostly just thinking out loud.21:44
chuteI will try that for a start - dual boot with shared /home21:44
chuteI have done that before w/o any problems but not with such a big difference21:45
chuteI might also see a big difference where there isn't one after all21:45
chutedo you think that developers have to maintain different versions for Gnome3 and Unity? Or is it automatically handled by the display manager?21:47
Brutus-In the actual release, after the installation, you can choose which graphic to use.21:49
chuteThere must be differences in the apps. The gparted delivered with 11.10 does NOT put its menu in the status bar.22:15
geirhaThe menubar is on the top panel (like on osx).22:20
geirhaThat's not triggered by a change in the apps, just different placement of gtk componenets by the desktop environment.22:21
chutetry gparted - here the menus do not migrate to the top panel, but remain in the app window22:22
chuteonly the application title migrated to the top panel22:23
geirhaAh, indeed. So gparted probably doesn't use the standard menubar component.22:24
Daishium...Hi!22:28
chuteFYI, running Unity and 10.04 Gnome2 on the same /home partition works fine. Some small visual problems after the 1st reboot but that was easy to resolve by respecifying a new theme.23:57
chuteanother app that doesn't put the menus into the top panel is Synaptic Package Manager. There must be many more.23:59

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