[02:12] <Fudge> hi, installed thunderbird from stable ppa, its version 7.0 and it keep scrashing, usually when i delete an email it happens
[02:12] <Fudge> was using 3.x before hand on lucid, no problems with crashing
[07:43] <Fudge> hi anyone about, having crashes with tbird 7.0 from ppa stable
[07:45] <Fudge> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/thunderbird-stable/ubuntu lucid main
[10:37] <Fudge> not very  helpful
[10:40] <knome> people are volunteers, and not all know about everything
[10:44] <Fudge> i understand, its a small channel, just disconcerting when no one aknowledges at all
[10:50] <chrisccoulson> Fudge, did you submit a crash report upstream? or get a backtrace?
[10:50] <chrisccoulson> i don't know what you expect people to do without that
[10:50] <chrisccoulson> you need to at least try to help yourself if you want others to help you ;)
[11:08] <knome> chrisccoulson... i know you already lots to do, but what about the xubuntu-specific browser start page? any thoughts given to that?
[11:35] <chrisccoulson> knome, not yet
[11:35] <chrisccoulson> trying to get chromium builds going again + unbreaking firefox ppc build
[12:07] <Fudge> chrisccoulson  yes been submitting the crash reports
[12:12] <chrisccoulson> Fudge, what arch?
[12:28] <Fudge> chrisccoulson  its lucid i386
[12:29] <chrisccoulson> Fudge - did you leave a comment? i'm currently looking at all crashes submitted from that build
[12:30] <Fudge> yes mate, my email is my nick, comment was tb crashes when i delete an email
[12:31] <chrisccoulson> this one? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/96d672f3-def2-420b-9b74-129872111019
[12:32] <Fudge> one moment
[12:34] <Fudge> yes mate thats me
[12:35] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, it's linked to a bug report which is appearently fixed
[12:36] <chrisccoulson> and all the reporters seem to say it happens when deleting mail
[12:37] <Fudge> not good mate
[12:37] <Fudge> :)
[12:37] <Fudge> perhaps it needs re-addressing
[13:18] <chrisccoulson> Fudge, sorry, would you mind opening a new bug for that? From https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/96d672f3-def2-420b-9b74-129872111019, you can click on the "Report this Crash" link
[13:18] <chrisccoulson> against Core -> Disability Access API's
[13:19] <chrisccoulson> there seems to be quite a few of those crashes still
[13:37] <Fudge> yes chrisccoulson , mind if i do it tomorrow though its after midnight
[13:49] <knome> chrisccoulson, oki, np
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, nice - https://twitter.com/#!/mike_conley/status/127407051424010240 :)
[15:40] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: :D
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure you could get rid of a couple of columns in the thread pane though
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> eg, the left-most column to indicate a thread is redundant isn't it?
[15:41] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: probably - it's a matter of finding out which ones are important to users
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> (as threads are indicated by an expander next to the subject)
[15:41] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: which, hopefully, Test Pilot will reveal
[15:41]  * m_conley nods
[15:41] <m_conley> agreed
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i'd be interested to find out how many people toggle the read/unread status with the small green circle as well
[15:44] <m_conley> me too!
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> as a means of indicating status, i think that one is redundant too
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> but obviously, it provides a quick way to toggle a message unread/read
[15:45] <m_conley> I believe a heatmap for most of our switches, toggles, buttons and menus is going to be our first test.
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> that would be awesome
[18:20] <rhelmer> hrm i could swear I saw a "google-breakpad" package somewhere, did i just imagine that?
[18:27] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, there?
[18:27] <chrisccoulson> rhelmer, i'm not sure :)
[18:28] <rhelmer> chrisccoulson: i finally got a socorro package going, but the hacky way i was pulling in breakpad won't fly on the real build servers. i'll just make a package for it in my ppa
[18:28] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: hey
[18:29] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, did you ever figure out what to do about the planned 20th December release of ff9?
[18:29] <chrisccoulson> rhelmer, nice :)
[18:29] <bhearsum> i didn't!
[18:29] <bhearsum> but, i think one of the release managers is here right now....let me ask :)
[18:32] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[18:33] <bhearsum> damn, i missed him
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[18:35] <bhearsum> i'll find out when one of them is online again and get back to you
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> thanks