SamuraiAlba | link? | 00:00 |
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InHisName | week day ? | 00:00 |
JonathanD | http://geeknic.org/?p=159 | 00:00 |
JonathanD | Saturday. | 00:00 |
beta0x64 | damn philly | 00:58 |
beta0x64 | I'm all the way in pittsburgh | 00:58 |
JonathanD | better get hiking. | 00:58 |
TheEvilPhoenix | heh | 01:10 |
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=== Guest59733 is now known as Pici | ||
InHisName | beta0x64: don't you western'ers have a nice zoo too? | 02:58 |
beta0x64 | Pfft | 03:00 |
beta0x64 | yeah | 03:00 |
beta0x64 | but it's not with a bunch of geeks | 03:00 |
beta0x64 | well computer geeks | 03:00 |
JonathanD | Monring. | 10:18 |
rmg51 | morning JonathanD | 10:37 |
JonathanD | hi rmg51 | 10:41 |
rmg51 | 0/ | 10:41 |
InHisName | morning, gents | 11:54 |
JonathanD | yes. | 12:03 |
JonathanD | it is | 12:03 |
anduril | This coffee needs more cowbell! | 12:24 |
JonathanD | Morning. | 12:48 |
GeekyAdam | hi all | 15:21 |
GeekyAdam | wet outside anywhere else in PA? | 15:22 |
anduril | grounds a little damp but not bad | 15:22 |
waltman | There were sunny blue skies in Philly this morning | 15:23 |
GeekyAdam | pissing here all night and morning | 15:28 |
GeekyAdam | (Erie) | 15:28 |
waltman | Has it started snowing yet out there? :) | 15:41 |
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InHisName | quiet day | 18:03 |
anduril | everyone gettin their party on early? | 18:03 |
MutantTurkey | missed school today, slept till twelve | 18:04 |
MutantTurkey | but after making a nice pot of coffee I am feeling productive | 18:05 |
MutantTurkey | letting some guy on reddit barrow my mixer... good or bad idea? | 18:28 |
MutantTurkey | and should I collect some sort of collatoral? | 18:28 |
anduril | I probably would if its something you would like to get back but who knows it cuold go well | 18:28 |
MutantTurkey | I mean he needs it for some sort of event tonight | 18:30 |
MutantTurkey | I have his number, his friends number, I'll get his license plate when he picks it up | 18:31 |
MutantTurkey | worst case scenario I call the police, tell them the specifics and get it back? | 18:31 |
JonathanD | Can I borrow a can opener? | 18:33 |
TheEvilPhoenix | here's a can opener | 18:51 |
TheEvilPhoenix | it uses lasers though | 18:51 |
* TheEvilPhoenix hands JonathanD the laser can opener | 18:51 | |
anduril | do the lasers come with sharks attached? | 18:51 |
TheEvilPhoenix | no, but i can make that happen if you want it to ;P | 18:51 |
JonathanD | Couldn't you just use the sharks to open the cans? | 18:51 |
anduril | TAKE MY MONEY! | 18:51 |
MutantTurkey | enough with the austin power references? | 18:51 |
* TheEvilPhoenix takes the money and gives anduril nothing in return :P | 18:51 | |
anduril | hehe you thought I had money | 18:51 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and i agree with MutantTurkey | 18:52 |
TheEvilPhoenix | hmmm... i wonder if there's any turkey in my fridge... i'm in the mood for a turkey sandwich | 18:52 |
MutantTurkey | why is it that my name draws the most amount of jokes? | 18:53 |
MutantTurkey | we have ChinnoDog, TheEvilPheonix, and more | 18:53 |
TheEvilPhoenix | MutantTurkey: if you're going to say my name, spell it right :P | 18:53 |
TheEvilPhoenix | s/TheEvilPheonix/TheEvilPhoenix/ | 18:54 |
MutantTurkey | my apology | 18:54 |
TheEvilPhoenix | you're the 852nd person to make the mistake | 18:54 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and the first 851 are people from #defocus :p | 18:54 |
MutantTurkey | do we ostracize jedijf for having an affinity towards light sabers? no. | 18:54 |
MutantTurkey | do we make fun of jthan for using macs? no | 18:54 |
TheEvilPhoenix | um... | 18:54 |
anduril | we dont? | 18:54 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i might do that.... | 18:54 |
TheEvilPhoenix | ;P | 18:54 |
MutantTurkey | do we make fun of cosmicpizza for his gooey cheese crust? | 18:54 |
MutantTurkey | NO | 18:54 |
TheEvilPhoenix | but you're a turkey... and you're mutant... | 18:55 |
TheEvilPhoenix | :P | 18:55 |
MutantTurkey | I need more puns | 18:55 |
TheEvilPhoenix | indeed you do | 18:55 |
MutantTurkey | I can reuse the same ones. oh well | 18:55 |
TheEvilPhoenix | lol | 18:55 |
MutantTurkey | IF YOU DON'T CUT IT OUT I AM GOING COLD TURKEY AND QUITTING THIS CHANNEL | 18:55 |
TheEvilPhoenix | you just made fun of yourself, no offense. | 18:56 |
JonathanD | MutantTurkey: are you coming on the zoo trip? | 18:56 |
TheEvilPhoenix | but i will cease to annoy you | 18:56 |
TheEvilPhoenix | :P | 18:56 |
* TheEvilPhoenix goes back to fixing DNS | 18:56 | |
* MutantTurkey goes back to fixing kickoff | 18:56 | |
JonathanD | MutantTurkey: I'm not sure if they have turkeys. | 18:56 |
JonathanD | But they might. | 18:56 |
TheEvilPhoenix | can anyone do me a favor and run a DNS lookup for A type records for trekweb.org and www.trekweb.org? | 18:56 |
* TheEvilPhoenix is having DNS resolution issues on his end, but the DNS records are clearly out there according to other sites | 18:57 | |
* TheEvilPhoenix wants to confirm that the IPs the sites point to are the same | 18:57 | |
TheEvilPhoenix | 'tis my site, btw ;P | 18:57 |
TheEvilPhoenix | well | 18:57 |
TheEvilPhoenix | one of em | 18:57 |
JonathanD | www.trekweb.org. 7200 IN A 173.236.15.69 | 18:57 |
JonathanD | for bot | 18:58 |
JonathanD | h | 18:58 |
MutantTurkey | wwhat s teiweb | 18:58 |
MutantTurkey | what is trek web | 18:58 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: thanks | 18:59 |
TheEvilPhoenix | MutantTurkey: its an organization i run - provides web services... | 18:59 |
TheEvilPhoenix | well it used to | 18:59 |
TheEvilPhoenix | right now its running free ZNCs | 18:59 |
MutantTurkey | :| | 18:59 |
* TheEvilPhoenix had to downgrade what was offered due to cash flow | 18:59 | |
MutantTurkey | ah | 18:59 |
MutantTurkey | who hosts your servers | 18:59 |
MutantTurkey | ? | 18:59 |
TheEvilPhoenix | atm, they're both VPSes. i'm trying to find a datacenter that will allow me to colo this dedicated server box i own, but allow me to run IRC services | 19:00 |
MutantTurkey | who owns them? | 19:00 |
TheEvilPhoenix | Unvanquished Hosting | 19:00 |
MutantTurkey | colo? | 19:00 |
TheEvilPhoenix | no, VPSes | 19:00 |
MutantTurkey | "allow me to colo this dedicated" what is colo? | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i'm going to switch them to that one dedi box once i get a good DC with the policies i can agree with | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | colocation | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i.e. | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i pay a datacenter to have my box hooked up to their networking | 19:01 |
MutantTurkey | oh :o | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | for a fee monthly | 19:01 |
MutantTurkey | I use vpsforge | 19:01 |
MutantTurkey | quite nice | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | yeah, i need a dedicated server box though | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | one i can actually go to and replace hardware on when it fails | 19:01 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and what not | 19:01 |
MutantTurkey | why? jw/ | 19:02 |
MutantTurkey | <being pesky and annoying to avoid work> | 19:02 |
TheEvilPhoenix | because if i want to upgrade the RAM on my system | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i only need to pay for the RAM | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and not increase my monthly rates ;P | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | in that sense | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | colocation is cheaper in the long run, because with VPSes... | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | its dependent on a ton of other factors | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and increasing RAM/disk space usually requires you to upgrade a bunch of other features | 19:04 |
TheEvilPhoenix | as well as increase the monthly price | 19:04 |
MutantTurkey | but if you buy a 4gigs ram for 80 bucks, your monthy won't increase | 19:05 |
MutantTurkey | make sense | 19:05 |
TheEvilPhoenix | mhm | 19:09 |
TheEvilPhoenix | because i own the physical box itself | 19:09 |
TheEvilPhoenix | all i have to do is inform the datacenter "I need to gain access to the system to make hardware upgrades." | 19:09 |
TheEvilPhoenix | I get access. | 19:09 |
TheEvilPhoenix | I upgrade the hardware, boot the box. | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | my monthly fees don't go up because i didnt change my network plan | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | nor did I increase the amount of power i need. | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | ionly upgraded the hardware on the box I already owned | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | so if I have 4GB RAM for my server | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and I want to upgrade that to 8GB RAM | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i only pay for the additional 4GB of RAM sticks | 19:10 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and i havent increased my actual monthly server costs | 19:11 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and when i get pissed at the datacenter, i can always cancel the colocation service... | 19:11 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and then set up the thing off of my own internet | 19:11 |
JonathanD | With linode... | 19:11 |
TheEvilPhoenix | which of course is shitty internet | 19:11 |
TheEvilPhoenix | but still the same | 19:11 |
JonathanD | they somewhat randomly give you more stuff for free | 19:12 |
JonathanD | like "oh hey, reboot, and you'll have 25% more ram. Have a nice day" | 19:12 |
JonathanD | Which annoys me, actually | 19:12 |
TheEvilPhoenix | yep | 19:12 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: you want to upgrade *only* when you need it, right? | 19:12 |
TheEvilPhoenix | without unexpected reboots | 19:12 |
JonathanD | Because then I get in a months-long debate... | 19:12 |
TheEvilPhoenix | hehe | 19:12 |
JonathanD | should I reboot now, and have my irssi get messed up? | 19:13 |
JonathanD | or should I wait... | 19:13 |
TheEvilPhoenix | indeed. | 19:13 |
TheEvilPhoenix | with a dedicated server box | 19:13 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and with me owning the actual box | 19:13 |
JonathanD | TheEvilPhoenix: I'm not really complaining :p | 19:13 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i eradicate the need for that restart issue | 19:13 |
JonathanD | I just hate losing my window orders. | 19:13 |
TheEvilPhoenix | because i update/upgrade/restart if/when i feel like it xD | 19:14 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: indeed | 19:14 |
JonathanD | TheEvilPhoenix: really, though, you'll just put off the upgrade until you feel like it :p | 19:14 |
TheEvilPhoenix | but i'm using your statements as a jumping off point for "Why Owning A Server Box Yourself and Colocating It at a datacenter is good" | 19:14 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: or until its necessary | 19:14 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: i actually have a cron script that runs every other day that runs security upgrades with apt-get ;P | 19:15 |
TheEvilPhoenix | and it forces the updates ;P | 19:15 |
MutantTurkey | I don't know why you'd need 8gigs of ram on a server unless you are doing alot of processing | 19:15 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i.e. 4 minecraft servers? ;P | 19:16 |
JonathanD | My linodes are under 1GB | 19:16 |
TheEvilPhoenix | minecraft takes up 2GB per instance :/ | 19:16 |
TheEvilPhoenix | or at least 1GB per instance | 19:16 |
TheEvilPhoenix | :/ | 19:16 |
JonathanD | TheEvilPhoenix: one interesting thing about linode | 19:17 |
JonathanD | they pool resources. | 19:17 |
MutantTurkey | minecraft servers.... | 19:17 |
JonathanD | So if I buy two linodes, I can distribute disk between them as I see fit. | 19:17 |
MutantTurkey | JonathanD: my VPS is interesting similarly | 19:18 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: indeed. | 19:18 |
MutantTurkey | i have 512mb of ram, but I can get 1gb "burstable" ram | 19:18 |
MutantTurkey | if i really need more it will allocate more | 19:18 |
JonathanD | TheEvilPhoenix: and they do let you buy ram piecemeal. | 19:18 |
TheEvilPhoenix | my dedicated box is a 36GB HW RAID5 though | 19:18 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: but that's Linode | 19:18 |
TheEvilPhoenix | :/ | 19:18 |
JonathanD | TheEvilPhoenix: yeah. | 19:18 |
* TheEvilPhoenix is kinda sick of VPSes anyways | 19:18 | |
JonathanD | I like linode. | 19:18 |
JonathanD | Everything else I run at home. | 19:19 |
JonathanD | and I have linod eand a 1and1 shared account. | 19:19 |
TheEvilPhoenix | i've got a micro server farm back at home in pittsburgh | 19:19 |
JonathanD | TheEvilPhoenix: you seen mine? | 19:19 |
TheEvilPhoenix | its comprised of old systems that i converted into Windows / Linux(multi-distro) servers | 19:19 |
JonathanD | http://jdsnetwork.com/images/100_2770.JPG | 19:19 |
TheEvilPhoenix | Verizon said "WTFH you'ire using up half our hub's bandwidth!" | 19:20 |
TheEvilPhoenix | I said "I dont care, i PAY for that bandwidth anyways!" | 19:20 |
MutantTurkey | TheEvilPhoenix: and you said good.... | 19:20 |
anduril | I dont even wanna know how much power you're burning for that JonathanD | 19:20 |
TheEvilPhoenix | MutantTurkey: that's not where I colo the box ;P | 19:20 |
JonathanD | anduril: they're not always on :) | 19:20 |
JonathanD | anduril: they run ESXi, and when I'm not pushing them hard everything runs on one box. | 19:20 |
JonathanD | When I am, things move. | 19:21 |
TheEvilPhoenix | holy hell dude that's a ton of power o.O | 19:21 |
JonathanD | takes a lot to run a holodeck. | 19:21 |
MutantTurkey | a buddy of mine has a giant opteron cluster, his power bill spikes during rebuilds a few hundred dollars | 19:21 |
MutantTurkey | so when he says "donations appreciated" he really means it. | 19:21 |
TheEvilPhoenix | heh | 19:21 |
TheEvilPhoenix | JonathanD: indeed it does. Not to mention you need 50 trillion gigaquads of data in order to save the holodeck program databases :P | 19:22 |
* TheEvilPhoenix watches too much Star Trek on Netflix :/ | 19:22 | |
JonathanD | indeed. | 19:22 |
MutantTurkey | 12 parsecs? | 19:23 |
InHisName | OK, now you all get REAL noisy. | 19:24 |
JonathanD | NOISE | 19:24 |
TheEvilPhoenix | NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSEEEEEEE | 19:24 |
TheEvilPhoenix | yes, i know, i'm an ass :P | 19:24 |
MutantTurkey | actually you're a phoenix | 19:37 |
MutantTurkey | :x | 19:37 |
TheEvilPhoenix | :P | 19:37 |
TheEvilPhoenix | oh good... stickychan works :P | 19:53 |
* TheEvilPhoenix is now stuck here ;P | 19:53 | |
rmg51 | I just know I'm going to hate myself in the morning :P | 20:18 |
rmg51 | and so will Teddy | 20:18 |
rmg51 | it's time to upgrade his laptop :-/:P | 20:18 |
jedijf | rmg51: what are the plans? | 20:23 |
rmg51 | upgrade, then install xfce | 20:24 |
rmg51 | maybe gnome3 | 20:24 |
rmg51 | then spend the next couple hours setting everything up the way I want it :P | 20:25 |
InHisName | Got my wireless N working. Messed with extender, a bit fussy and I may not really need it anyway. TouchPad is pretty nifty so far. Found some Bible software. Not e-Sword but it'll have to do. | 21:24 |
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MutantTurkey | spent all day attempting to fix one bug. still not fixed. stabbing my own eyes out :| | 21:48 |
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