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SamuraiAlbalink?00:00
InHisNameweek day ?00:00
JonathanDhttp://geeknic.org/?p=15900:00
JonathanDSaturday.00:00
beta0x64damn philly00:58
beta0x64I'm all the way in pittsburgh00:58
JonathanDbetter get hiking.00:58
TheEvilPhoenixheh01:10
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InHisNamebeta0x64: don't you western'ers have a nice zoo too?02:58
beta0x64Pfft03:00
beta0x64yeah03:00
beta0x64but it's not with a bunch of geeks03:00
beta0x64well computer geeks03:00
JonathanDMonring.10:18
rmg51morning JonathanD10:37
JonathanDhi rmg5110:41
rmg510/10:41
InHisNamemorning, gents11:54
JonathanDyes.12:03
JonathanDit is12:03
andurilThis coffee needs more cowbell!12:24
JonathanDMorning.12:48
GeekyAdamhi all15:21
GeekyAdamwet outside anywhere else in PA?15:22
andurilgrounds a little damp but not bad15:22
waltmanThere were sunny blue skies in Philly this morning15:23
GeekyAdampissing here all night and morning15:28
GeekyAdam(Erie)15:28
waltmanHas it started snowing yet out there? :)15:41
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InHisNamequiet day18:03
andurileveryone gettin their party on early?18:03
MutantTurkeymissed school today, slept till twelve18:04
MutantTurkeybut after making a nice pot of coffee I am feeling productive18:05
MutantTurkeyletting some guy on reddit barrow my mixer... good or bad idea?18:28
MutantTurkeyand should I collect some sort of collatoral?18:28
andurilI probably would if its something you would like to get back but who knows it cuold go well18:28
MutantTurkeyI mean he needs it for some sort of event tonight18:30
MutantTurkeyI have his number, his friends number, I'll get his license plate when he picks it up18:31
MutantTurkeyworst case scenario I call the police, tell them the specifics and get it back?18:31
JonathanDCan I borrow a can opener?18:33
TheEvilPhoenixhere's a can opener18:51
TheEvilPhoenixit uses lasers though18:51
* TheEvilPhoenix hands JonathanD the laser can opener18:51
andurildo the lasers come with sharks attached?18:51
TheEvilPhoenixno, but i can make that happen if you want it to ;P18:51
JonathanDCouldn't you just use the sharks to open the cans?18:51
andurilTAKE MY MONEY!18:51
MutantTurkeyenough with the austin power references?18:51
* TheEvilPhoenix takes the money and gives anduril nothing in return :P18:51
andurilhehe you thought I had money18:51
TheEvilPhoenixand i agree with MutantTurkey18:52
TheEvilPhoenixhmmm... i wonder if there's any turkey in my fridge... i'm in the mood for a turkey sandwich18:52
MutantTurkeywhy is it that my name draws the most amount of jokes?18:53
MutantTurkeywe have ChinnoDog, TheEvilPheonix,  and more18:53
TheEvilPhoenixMutantTurkey:  if you're going to say my name, spell it right :P18:53
TheEvilPhoenixs/TheEvilPheonix/TheEvilPhoenix/18:54
MutantTurkeymy apology18:54
TheEvilPhoenixyou're the 852nd person to make the mistake18:54
TheEvilPhoenixand the first 851 are people from #defocus :p18:54
MutantTurkeydo we ostracize jedijf for having an affinity towards light sabers? no.18:54
MutantTurkeydo we make fun of jthan for using macs? no18:54
TheEvilPhoenixum...18:54
andurilwe dont?18:54
TheEvilPhoenixi might do that....18:54
TheEvilPhoenix;P18:54
MutantTurkeydo we make fun of cosmicpizza for his gooey cheese crust?18:54
MutantTurkeyNO18:54
TheEvilPhoenixbut you're a turkey... and you're mutant...18:55
TheEvilPhoenix:P18:55
MutantTurkeyI need more puns18:55
TheEvilPhoenixindeed you do18:55
MutantTurkeyI can reuse the same ones. oh well18:55
TheEvilPhoenixlol18:55
MutantTurkeyIF YOU DON'T CUT IT OUT I AM GOING COLD TURKEY AND QUITTING THIS CHANNEL18:55
TheEvilPhoenixyou just made fun of yourself, no offense.18:56
JonathanDMutantTurkey: are you coming on the zoo trip?18:56
TheEvilPhoenixbut i will cease to annoy you18:56
TheEvilPhoenix:P18:56
* TheEvilPhoenix goes back to fixing DNS18:56
* MutantTurkey goes back to fixing kickoff18:56
JonathanDMutantTurkey: I'm not sure if they have turkeys.18:56
JonathanDBut they might.18:56
TheEvilPhoenixcan anyone do me a favor and run a DNS lookup for A type records for trekweb.org and www.trekweb.org?18:56
* TheEvilPhoenix is having DNS resolution issues on his end, but the DNS records are clearly out there according to other sites18:57
* TheEvilPhoenix wants to confirm that the IPs the sites point to are the same18:57
TheEvilPhoenix'tis my site, btw ;P18:57
TheEvilPhoenixwell18:57
TheEvilPhoenixone of em18:57
JonathanDwww.trekweb.org.        7200    IN      A       173.236.15.6918:57
JonathanDfor bot18:58
JonathanDh18:58
MutantTurkeywwhat s teiweb18:58
MutantTurkeywhat is trek web18:58
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  thanks18:59
TheEvilPhoenixMutantTurkey:  its an organization i run - provides web services...18:59
TheEvilPhoenixwell it used to18:59
TheEvilPhoenixright now its running free ZNCs18:59
MutantTurkey:|18:59
* TheEvilPhoenix had to downgrade what was offered due to cash flow18:59
MutantTurkeyah18:59
MutantTurkeywho hosts your servers18:59
MutantTurkey?18:59
TheEvilPhoenixatm, they're both VPSes.  i'm trying to find a datacenter that will allow me to colo this dedicated server box i own, but allow me to run IRC services19:00
MutantTurkeywho owns them?19:00
TheEvilPhoenixUnvanquished Hosting19:00
MutantTurkeycolo?19:00
TheEvilPhoenixno, VPSes19:00
MutantTurkey"allow me to colo this dedicated" what is colo?19:01
TheEvilPhoenixi'm going to switch them to that one dedi box once i get a good DC with the policies i can agree with19:01
TheEvilPhoenixcolocation19:01
TheEvilPhoenixi.e.19:01
TheEvilPhoenixi pay a datacenter to have my box hooked up to their networking19:01
MutantTurkey oh :o19:01
TheEvilPhoenixfor a fee monthly19:01
MutantTurkeyI use vpsforge19:01
MutantTurkeyquite nice19:01
TheEvilPhoenixyeah, i need a dedicated server box though19:01
TheEvilPhoenixone i can actually go to and replace hardware on when it fails19:01
TheEvilPhoenixand what not19:01
MutantTurkeywhy? jw/19:02
MutantTurkey<being pesky and annoying to avoid work>19:02
TheEvilPhoenixbecause if i want to upgrade the RAM on my system19:04
TheEvilPhoenixi only need to pay for the RAM19:04
TheEvilPhoenixand not increase my monthly rates ;P19:04
TheEvilPhoenixin that sense19:04
TheEvilPhoenixcolocation is cheaper in the long run, because with VPSes...19:04
TheEvilPhoenixits dependent on a ton of other factors19:04
TheEvilPhoenixand increasing RAM/disk space usually requires you to upgrade a bunch of other features19:04
TheEvilPhoenixas well as increase the monthly price19:04
MutantTurkeybut if you buy a 4gigs ram for 80 bucks, your monthy won't increase19:05
MutantTurkeymake sense19:05
TheEvilPhoenixmhm19:09
TheEvilPhoenixbecause i own the physical box itself19:09
TheEvilPhoenixall i have to do is inform the datacenter "I need to gain access to the system to make hardware upgrades."19:09
TheEvilPhoenixI get access.19:09
TheEvilPhoenixI upgrade the hardware, boot the box.19:10
TheEvilPhoenixmy monthly fees don't go up because i didnt change my network plan19:10
TheEvilPhoenixnor did I increase the amount of power i need.19:10
TheEvilPhoenixionly upgraded the hardware on the box I already owned19:10
TheEvilPhoenixso if I have 4GB RAM for my server19:10
TheEvilPhoenixand I want to upgrade that to 8GB RAM19:10
TheEvilPhoenixi only pay for the additional 4GB of RAM sticks19:10
TheEvilPhoenixand i havent increased my actual monthly server costs19:11
TheEvilPhoenixand when i get pissed at the datacenter, i can always cancel the colocation service...19:11
TheEvilPhoenixand then set up the thing off of my own internet19:11
JonathanDWith linode...19:11
TheEvilPhoenixwhich of course is shitty internet19:11
TheEvilPhoenixbut still the same19:11
JonathanDthey somewhat randomly give you more stuff for free19:12
JonathanDlike "oh hey, reboot, and you'll have 25% more ram. Have a nice day"19:12
JonathanDWhich annoys me, actually19:12
TheEvilPhoenixyep19:12
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  you want to upgrade *only* when you need it, right?19:12
TheEvilPhoenixwithout unexpected reboots19:12
JonathanDBecause then I get in a months-long debate...19:12
TheEvilPhoenixhehe19:12
JonathanDshould I reboot now, and have my irssi get messed up?19:13
JonathanDor should I wait...19:13
TheEvilPhoenixindeed.19:13
TheEvilPhoenixwith a dedicated server box19:13
TheEvilPhoenixand with me owning the actual box19:13
JonathanDTheEvilPhoenix: I'm not really complaining :p19:13
TheEvilPhoenixi eradicate the need for that restart issue19:13
JonathanDI just hate losing my window orders.19:13
TheEvilPhoenixbecause i update/upgrade/restart if/when i feel like it xD19:14
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  indeed19:14
JonathanDTheEvilPhoenix: really, though, you'll just put off the upgrade until you feel like it :p19:14
TheEvilPhoenixbut i'm using your statements as a jumping off point for "Why Owning A Server Box Yourself and Colocating It at a datacenter is good"19:14
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  or until its necessary19:14
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  i actually have a cron script that runs every other day that runs security upgrades with apt-get ;P19:15
TheEvilPhoenixand it forces the updates ;P19:15
MutantTurkeyI don't know why you'd need 8gigs of ram on a server unless you are doing alot of processing19:15
TheEvilPhoenixi.e. 4 minecraft servers?  ;P19:16
JonathanDMy linodes are under 1GB19:16
TheEvilPhoenixminecraft takes up 2GB per instance :/19:16
TheEvilPhoenixor at least 1GB per instance19:16
TheEvilPhoenix:/19:16
JonathanDTheEvilPhoenix: one interesting thing about linode19:17
JonathanDthey pool resources.19:17
MutantTurkeyminecraft servers....19:17
JonathanDSo if I buy two linodes, I can distribute disk between them as I see fit.19:17
MutantTurkeyJonathanD: my VPS is interesting similarly19:18
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  indeed.19:18
MutantTurkeyi have 512mb of ram, but I can get 1gb "burstable" ram19:18
MutantTurkeyif i really need more it will allocate more19:18
JonathanDTheEvilPhoenix: and they do let you buy ram piecemeal.19:18
TheEvilPhoenixmy dedicated box is a 36GB HW RAID5 though19:18
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  but that's Linode19:18
TheEvilPhoenix:/19:18
JonathanDTheEvilPhoenix: yeah.19:18
* TheEvilPhoenix is kinda sick of VPSes anyways19:18
JonathanDI like linode.19:18
JonathanDEverything else I run at home.19:19
JonathanDand I have linod eand a 1and1 shared account.19:19
TheEvilPhoenixi've got a micro server farm back at home in pittsburgh19:19
JonathanDTheEvilPhoenix: you seen mine?19:19
TheEvilPhoenixits comprised of old systems that i converted into Windows / Linux(multi-distro) servers19:19
JonathanDhttp://jdsnetwork.com/images/100_2770.JPG19:19
TheEvilPhoenixVerizon said "WTFH you'ire using up half our hub's bandwidth!"19:20
TheEvilPhoenixI said "I dont care, i PAY for that bandwidth anyways!"19:20
MutantTurkeyTheEvilPhoenix: and you said good....19:20
andurilI dont even wanna know how much power you're burning for that JonathanD19:20
TheEvilPhoenixMutantTurkey:  that's not where I colo the box ;P19:20
JonathanDanduril: they're not always on :)19:20
JonathanDanduril: they run ESXi, and when I'm not pushing them hard everything runs on one box.19:20
JonathanDWhen I am, things move.19:21
TheEvilPhoenixholy hell dude that's a ton of power o.O19:21
JonathanDtakes a lot to run a holodeck.19:21
MutantTurkeya buddy of mine has a giant opteron cluster, his power bill spikes during rebuilds a few hundred dollars19:21
MutantTurkeyso when he says "donations appreciated" he really means it.19:21
TheEvilPhoenixheh19:21
TheEvilPhoenixJonathanD:  indeed it does.  Not to mention you need 50 trillion gigaquads of data in order to save the holodeck program databases :P19:22
* TheEvilPhoenix watches too much Star Trek on Netflix :/19:22
JonathanDindeed.19:22
MutantTurkey12 parsecs?19:23
InHisNameOK, now you all get REAL noisy.19:24
JonathanDNOISE19:24
TheEvilPhoenixNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSEEEEEEE19:24
TheEvilPhoenixyes, i know, i'm an ass :P19:24
MutantTurkeyactually you're a phoenix19:37
MutantTurkey:x19:37
TheEvilPhoenix:P19:37
TheEvilPhoenixoh good... stickychan works :P19:53
* TheEvilPhoenix is now stuck here ;P19:53
rmg51I just know I'm going to hate myself in the morning :P20:18
rmg51and so will Teddy20:18
rmg51it's time to upgrade his laptop :-/:P20:18
jedijfrmg51: what are the plans?20:23
rmg51upgrade, then install xfce20:24
rmg51maybe gnome320:24
rmg51then spend the next couple hours setting everything up the way I want it :P20:25
InHisNameGot my wireless N working.  Messed with extender, a bit fussy and I may not really need it anyway.   TouchPad is pretty nifty so far.  Found some Bible software.  Not e-Sword but it'll have to do.21:24
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MutantTurkeyspent all day attempting to fix one bug. still not fixed. stabbing my own eyes out :|21:48

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