[00:00] link? [00:00] week day ? [00:00] http://geeknic.org/?p=159 [00:00] Saturday. [00:58] damn philly [00:58] I'm all the way in pittsburgh [00:58] better get hiking. [01:10] heh === Pici is now known as Guest59733 === Guest59733 is now known as Pici [02:58] beta0x64: don't you western'ers have a nice zoo too? [03:00] Pfft [03:00] yeah [03:00] but it's not with a bunch of geeks [03:00] well computer geeks [10:18] Monring. [10:37] morning JonathanD [10:41] hi rmg51 [10:41] 0/ [11:54] morning, gents [12:03] yes. [12:03] it is [12:24] This coffee needs more cowbell! [12:48] Morning. [15:21] hi all [15:22] wet outside anywhere else in PA? [15:22] grounds a little damp but not bad [15:23] There were sunny blue skies in Philly this morning [15:28] pissing here all night and morning [15:28] (Erie) [15:41] Has it started snowing yet out there? :) === jackson_ is now known as jackson [18:03] quiet day [18:03] everyone gettin their party on early? [18:04] missed school today, slept till twelve [18:05] but after making a nice pot of coffee I am feeling productive [18:28] letting some guy on reddit barrow my mixer... good or bad idea? [18:28] and should I collect some sort of collatoral? [18:28] I probably would if its something you would like to get back but who knows it cuold go well [18:30] I mean he needs it for some sort of event tonight [18:31] I have his number, his friends number, I'll get his license plate when he picks it up [18:31] worst case scenario I call the police, tell them the specifics and get it back? [18:33] Can I borrow a can opener? [18:51] here's a can opener [18:51] it uses lasers though [18:51] * TheEvilPhoenix hands JonathanD the laser can opener [18:51] do the lasers come with sharks attached? [18:51] no, but i can make that happen if you want it to ;P [18:51] Couldn't you just use the sharks to open the cans? [18:51] TAKE MY MONEY! [18:51] enough with the austin power references? [18:51] * TheEvilPhoenix takes the money and gives anduril nothing in return :P [18:51] hehe you thought I had money [18:52] and i agree with MutantTurkey [18:52] hmmm... i wonder if there's any turkey in my fridge... i'm in the mood for a turkey sandwich [18:53] why is it that my name draws the most amount of jokes? [18:53] we have ChinnoDog, TheEvilPheonix, and more [18:53] MutantTurkey: if you're going to say my name, spell it right :P [18:54] s/TheEvilPheonix/TheEvilPhoenix/ [18:54] my apology [18:54] you're the 852nd person to make the mistake [18:54] and the first 851 are people from #defocus :p [18:54] do we ostracize jedijf for having an affinity towards light sabers? no. [18:54] do we make fun of jthan for using macs? no [18:54] um... [18:54] we dont? [18:54] i might do that.... [18:54] ;P [18:54] do we make fun of cosmicpizza for his gooey cheese crust? [18:54] NO [18:55] but you're a turkey... and you're mutant... [18:55] :P [18:55] I need more puns [18:55] indeed you do [18:55] I can reuse the same ones. oh well [18:55] lol [18:55] IF YOU DON'T CUT IT OUT I AM GOING COLD TURKEY AND QUITTING THIS CHANNEL [18:56] you just made fun of yourself, no offense. [18:56] MutantTurkey: are you coming on the zoo trip? [18:56] but i will cease to annoy you [18:56] :P [18:56] * TheEvilPhoenix goes back to fixing DNS [18:56] * MutantTurkey goes back to fixing kickoff [18:56] MutantTurkey: I'm not sure if they have turkeys. [18:56] But they might. [18:56] can anyone do me a favor and run a DNS lookup for A type records for trekweb.org and www.trekweb.org? [18:57] * TheEvilPhoenix is having DNS resolution issues on his end, but the DNS records are clearly out there according to other sites [18:57] * TheEvilPhoenix wants to confirm that the IPs the sites point to are the same [18:57] 'tis my site, btw ;P [18:57] well [18:57] one of em [18:57] www.trekweb.org. 7200 IN A 173.236.15.69 [18:58] for bot [18:58] h [18:58] wwhat s teiweb [18:58] what is trek web [18:59] JonathanD: thanks [18:59] MutantTurkey: its an organization i run - provides web services... [18:59] well it used to [18:59] right now its running free ZNCs [18:59] :| [18:59] * TheEvilPhoenix had to downgrade what was offered due to cash flow [18:59] ah [18:59] who hosts your servers [18:59] ? [19:00] atm, they're both VPSes. i'm trying to find a datacenter that will allow me to colo this dedicated server box i own, but allow me to run IRC services [19:00] who owns them? [19:00] Unvanquished Hosting [19:00] colo? [19:00] no, VPSes [19:01] "allow me to colo this dedicated" what is colo? [19:01] i'm going to switch them to that one dedi box once i get a good DC with the policies i can agree with [19:01] colocation [19:01] i.e. [19:01] i pay a datacenter to have my box hooked up to their networking [19:01] oh :o [19:01] for a fee monthly [19:01] I use vpsforge [19:01] quite nice [19:01] yeah, i need a dedicated server box though [19:01] one i can actually go to and replace hardware on when it fails [19:01] and what not [19:02] why? jw/ [19:02] [19:04] because if i want to upgrade the RAM on my system [19:04] i only need to pay for the RAM [19:04] and not increase my monthly rates ;P [19:04] in that sense [19:04] colocation is cheaper in the long run, because with VPSes... [19:04] its dependent on a ton of other factors [19:04] and increasing RAM/disk space usually requires you to upgrade a bunch of other features [19:04] as well as increase the monthly price [19:05] but if you buy a 4gigs ram for 80 bucks, your monthy won't increase [19:05] make sense [19:09] mhm [19:09] because i own the physical box itself [19:09] all i have to do is inform the datacenter "I need to gain access to the system to make hardware upgrades." [19:09] I get access. [19:10] I upgrade the hardware, boot the box. [19:10] my monthly fees don't go up because i didnt change my network plan [19:10] nor did I increase the amount of power i need. [19:10] ionly upgraded the hardware on the box I already owned [19:10] so if I have 4GB RAM for my server [19:10] and I want to upgrade that to 8GB RAM [19:10] i only pay for the additional 4GB of RAM sticks [19:11] and i havent increased my actual monthly server costs [19:11] and when i get pissed at the datacenter, i can always cancel the colocation service... [19:11] and then set up the thing off of my own internet [19:11] With linode... [19:11] which of course is shitty internet [19:11] but still the same [19:12] they somewhat randomly give you more stuff for free [19:12] like "oh hey, reboot, and you'll have 25% more ram. Have a nice day" [19:12] Which annoys me, actually [19:12] yep [19:12] JonathanD: you want to upgrade *only* when you need it, right? [19:12] without unexpected reboots [19:12] Because then I get in a months-long debate... [19:12] hehe [19:13] should I reboot now, and have my irssi get messed up? [19:13] or should I wait... [19:13] indeed. [19:13] with a dedicated server box [19:13] and with me owning the actual box [19:13] TheEvilPhoenix: I'm not really complaining :p [19:13] i eradicate the need for that restart issue [19:13] I just hate losing my window orders. [19:14] because i update/upgrade/restart if/when i feel like it xD [19:14] JonathanD: indeed [19:14] TheEvilPhoenix: really, though, you'll just put off the upgrade until you feel like it :p [19:14] but i'm using your statements as a jumping off point for "Why Owning A Server Box Yourself and Colocating It at a datacenter is good" [19:14] JonathanD: or until its necessary [19:15] JonathanD: i actually have a cron script that runs every other day that runs security upgrades with apt-get ;P [19:15] and it forces the updates ;P [19:15] I don't know why you'd need 8gigs of ram on a server unless you are doing alot of processing [19:16] i.e. 4 minecraft servers? ;P [19:16] My linodes are under 1GB [19:16] minecraft takes up 2GB per instance :/ [19:16] or at least 1GB per instance [19:16] :/ [19:17] TheEvilPhoenix: one interesting thing about linode [19:17] they pool resources. [19:17] minecraft servers.... [19:17] So if I buy two linodes, I can distribute disk between them as I see fit. [19:18] JonathanD: my VPS is interesting similarly [19:18] JonathanD: indeed. [19:18] i have 512mb of ram, but I can get 1gb "burstable" ram [19:18] if i really need more it will allocate more [19:18] TheEvilPhoenix: and they do let you buy ram piecemeal. [19:18] my dedicated box is a 36GB HW RAID5 though [19:18] JonathanD: but that's Linode [19:18] :/ [19:18] TheEvilPhoenix: yeah. [19:18] * TheEvilPhoenix is kinda sick of VPSes anyways [19:18] I like linode. [19:19] Everything else I run at home. [19:19] and I have linod eand a 1and1 shared account. [19:19] i've got a micro server farm back at home in pittsburgh [19:19] TheEvilPhoenix: you seen mine? [19:19] its comprised of old systems that i converted into Windows / Linux(multi-distro) servers [19:19] http://jdsnetwork.com/images/100_2770.JPG [19:20] Verizon said "WTFH you'ire using up half our hub's bandwidth!" [19:20] I said "I dont care, i PAY for that bandwidth anyways!" [19:20] TheEvilPhoenix: and you said good.... [19:20] I dont even wanna know how much power you're burning for that JonathanD [19:20] MutantTurkey: that's not where I colo the box ;P [19:20] anduril: they're not always on :) [19:20] anduril: they run ESXi, and when I'm not pushing them hard everything runs on one box. [19:21] When I am, things move. [19:21] holy hell dude that's a ton of power o.O [19:21] takes a lot to run a holodeck. [19:21] a buddy of mine has a giant opteron cluster, his power bill spikes during rebuilds a few hundred dollars [19:21] so when he says "donations appreciated" he really means it. [19:21] heh [19:22] JonathanD: indeed it does. Not to mention you need 50 trillion gigaquads of data in order to save the holodeck program databases :P [19:22] * TheEvilPhoenix watches too much Star Trek on Netflix :/ [19:22] indeed. [19:23] 12 parsecs? [19:24] OK, now you all get REAL noisy. [19:24] NOISE [19:24] NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSEEEEEEE [19:24] yes, i know, i'm an ass :P [19:37] actually you're a phoenix [19:37] :x [19:37] :P [19:53] oh good... stickychan works :P [19:53] * TheEvilPhoenix is now stuck here ;P [20:18] I just know I'm going to hate myself in the morning :P [20:18] and so will Teddy [20:18] it's time to upgrade his laptop :-/:P [20:23] rmg51: what are the plans? [20:24] upgrade, then install xfce [20:24] maybe gnome3 [20:25] then spend the next couple hours setting everything up the way I want it :P [21:24] Got my wireless N working. Messed with extender, a bit fussy and I may not really need it anyway. TouchPad is pretty nifty so far. Found some Bible software. Not e-Sword but it'll have to do. === Joe_CoT is now known as TheBestWestern === TheBestWestern is now known as Joe_CoT [21:48] spent all day attempting to fix one bug. still not fixed. stabbing my own eyes out :|