[00:00] <Bularthip> I gues..
[00:00] <kion> can someone help me installing the latest adobe flash plugin 64 bits?
[00:00] <kion> please..
[00:01] <zelozelos> Bularthip, all you need to do is start the manager, then click on the hd, find the partition you want to autostart and answer yes if it asks you, then click on the "assistant" button, mount at start up should be already checked, there are a few other options you can change
[00:01] <zelozelos> but id suggest leaving them alone till you know more about what's being done and how it works
[00:02] <Nate_> Does anyone know how to use the windows wifi drivers on ubuntu
[00:02] <_kad> is there any chance to create manual shortcut for example control + s to open skype  with unity? thx in advance
[00:02] <franklet> does extended desktop exist in xubuntu?
[00:02] <zelozelos> _kad preferances, keyboard short cuts or something like that
[00:02] <lucas-arg> i upgraded to 11.10 now my system is slower, my laptop fan is on all time... anyone with this issues?
[00:02] <_kad> zelozelos, thx
[00:02] <zelozelos> np
[00:03] <zelozelos> hows it goin Bularthip ? is it working right?
[00:03] <Bularthip> zelozelos, no such option as Mount at startup here
[00:03] <lucas-arg> im getting an error saying ieee80211 something...
[00:04] <zelozelos> Bularthip, you are using pysdm and not the disk manager right? for some reason it's name is similar to the already installed disk manager
[00:04] <Nate_> is there a driver converter, that i can convert my windows drivers to linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:04] <zelozelos> Nate_, no
[00:04] <digitalslave> Nate_, NO
[00:05] <robin0800> kion, I just install it from adobe's site it just calls up the software centre to do the actual installation
[00:05] <Bularthip> Actually I searched through Software Center for pysdm and found out Storage Device Manager, is it correct one+
[00:05] <starsinmypockets> Trying to authenticate ssh from OSX client to ubuntu server via public key... ubuntu side has keys in ~/.ssh, OSX side, the public key is copied to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[00:05] <zelozelos> Bularthip, im gonna get a screenshot just 2 make sure..had this issue b4 when trying to help someone brb
[00:05] <Nate_> I need a driver for my wifi usb!
[00:05] <starsinmypockets> ssh -v shows everything fine until it skips to the password... nothing wierd in auth.log
[00:06] <franklet> lucas, maybe try a different driver for your wifi card?
[00:06] <starsinmypockets> *password method
[00:06] <nbf> anyone know if there is a "gubuntu" flavor that focuses around gnome3 for people who think unity sucks?
[00:06] <digitalslave> nbf, just apt-get install gnome-shell
[00:06] <qin> !nounity | nbf
[00:06] <nbf> yeah i know but it stills feels like a second class citizen
[00:06] <digitalslave> nbf, i just installed gnome 3 tonight and actually like it
[00:06] <nbf> same here
[00:07] <zelozelos> Bularthip, ok..is this what you see ?     http://www.pasteall.org/pic/19316
[00:07] <nbf> after trying unity out for a while I was worried that I'd have to go to fedora or something
[00:07] <kion> Robin0800: Thanks!!
[00:07] <nbf> but I really prefer debian distros
[00:07] <Nate_> so no one know how to help mev :'(
[00:07] <Bularthip> zelozelos, seems your link does not load
[00:08] <bonesTdog> I upgraded to 11.10. How do I confirm which gnome version I am running?
[00:09] <Bularthip> But I think it is the right one, as searching for pysdm in Software Center will bring me this Storage Device Manager, and as I followed your steps up to clicking Assistant button
[00:09] <zelozelos> Bularthip, hmmm...just tried it n it worked for me? ok. what you should see is a window labled "Storage Device Manager" directly under you should see "Partition LIst"?
[00:09] <qin> zelozelos: hehe, looks like 8.10.
[00:09] <zelozelos> qin think you may be right will pysdm work for it?
[00:10] <Nate_> NEEDS drivers!!!
[00:10] <Nate_> HELP :(
[00:10] <zelozelos> Nate_, GOOGLE MAN! GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:10] <Nate_> cant find anythin useful;
[00:10] <Bularthip> zelozelos, correct yup. And I see the hard disk, and the partition (sda3) I want to automount but there option such as Mount at start up
[00:10] <zelozelos> Then they dont exist for it, try alts
[00:11] <Bularthip> Kay, now your image loaded and that's the one
[00:11] <travis_> Hi all. Just upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04.. Now when I do a sudo apt-get update i get an error saying "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/medhods/http could not be found." notice the typo at "medhods".. anyone have an idea here?
[00:11] <zelozelos> click on that partition under the list, then click on the assistant button, under the Mounting tab you will see "the filesystem is mounted at boot time" make sure thers a check
[00:12] <Nate_> ☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○  ALT CODES RULE!!
[00:12] <qin> Nate_: Have you gave output of lsusb already.
[00:12] <Nate_> no ill do it now
[00:12] <qin> Nate_: Drop caps?
[00:12] <zelozelos> Bularthip, incase you didnt see it    ::   click on that partition under the list, then click on the assistant button, under the Mounting tab you will see "the filesystem is mounted at boot time" make sure thers a check
[00:13] <qin> Nate_: Or rather lspci of it is internal network card.
[00:13] <Bularthip> Ah yeah, that one is checked zelozelos
[00:14] <zelozelos> Bularthip, ok click ok, restart it should be mounted. keep in mind, you cannot unmount it unless you are in super user mode w this method
[00:14] <zelozelos> Bularthip, ill be here when u get back lemme know if it worked
[00:15] <Bularthip> zelozelos, will do. Let's see if I can get back to the OS :D ->
[00:15] <maheanuu> Can anyone tell me why my Utube videos all hang with a message "an error has occoured, please try again later"?
[00:16] <qin> travis_: did you try to s/medhodt/methods ?
[00:16] <maheanuu> I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on a Toshiba  64 bit notebook
[00:17] <zelozelos> maheanuu, its probably a flash issue
[00:17] <Bularthip> zelozelos it works! Thanks alot :)
[00:17] <travis_> qin: not sure how to do that
[00:17] <zelozelos> Bularthip, awesome your very welcome. theres tons of info on that program, read up on it b4 changing any more options ok
[00:17] <qin> travis_: ls /usr/lib/apt/me*
[00:18] <Bularthip> Even tho, I've noticed that when I restart my PC it will stuck and I have to use restart-button. And yeah, I probably won't have any reason to change any more options there
[00:18] <travis_> qin: $ ls /usr/lib/apt/me* bzip2  copy  ftp   gzip  https  mirror  rsh  xz cdrom  file  gpgv  http  lzma   rred    ssh
[00:18] <maheanuu> zelozelos, I think so as it happens on almost all, but what I would like to do is find a way to correct it or at least trouble shoot it
[00:18] <StepNjump> I have two ubuntu installed on my laptop. I would like to remove one install because I don't need both. But every time I format that partition, my grub2 (?) gets confused. How could I format this second partition without affecting grub?
[00:19] <qin> travis_: So, you have /usr/lib/apt/methods ?
[00:19] <zelozelos> maheanuu, flash is kinda hard to deal with cuz its ment for non-linux machines then retrofitted for linux. do you have the latest version?
[00:19] <eoss> Hello, I believe I auto-updated an ATI driver yesterday, since then I was getting a black screen after grub menu. Now I went in and changed the driver in the xorg conf from fglx to vesa and I was able to now log back in without a permanent black screen, unfortunatrely my resolution is compeltely fucked now, I need help reverting back to an old ati driver i assume? can anyone help me?
[00:20] <maheanuu> zelozelos,  I am not sure, I can do an upgrade and see
[00:20] <travis_> qin: i have /usr/lib/apt/methods, but not /usr/lib/apt/medhods
[00:21] <zelozelos> maheanuu, there are lots of alternatives for flash as well. not sure is apt-get upgrade shows it unless you have the non-free and partners repo's enabled as well
[00:21] <zelozelos> maheanuu, oh wait...brb i know of a site that has tons of stuff that may help you
[00:21] <yadira> hi guys,i just installed my hp printer driver and i have a mess on my home folder,is a bounch of archives like it innstall on home folder,,how can i hide all files but my home folders
[00:22] <qin> travis_: cd /usr/lib/apt/; sudo mkdir medhods; sudo cp methods/* medhods; sudo apt-get update (watch for typos, and guve me a second to lurk into apt)
[00:22] <zelozelos> maheanuu, see this site and do #3   http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/    theres another one too looking for it
[00:23] <yadira> i press Ctrl + H and i can see hidden folders and files,,but the ones from the printer are just there
[00:24] <zelozelos> maheanuu, and this one at #6    http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1540-top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal
[00:24] <yadira> how can i just hide those files and get them out the way with out compromissing the driver ?
[00:24] <zelozelos> maheanuu, they may not be the version you have but they are still applicable to any ubuntu above 9 as far as i know
[00:25] <yadira> can i just put a dot on front of the file and it will hide ?
[00:25] <zelozelos> yadira, yup
[00:25] <bonesTdog> I upgraded to 11.10 but want to confirm if I am running Gnome 3 or 2.x. Anyone know the command to check Gnome version?
[00:25] <travis_> qin: that solved the error anyway.. Now just getting "GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release:"
[00:26] <mugwort13> anyone know why they "Don't show this again" message from nm-applet doesn't actually do anything for a network disconnect?  Connect works ok, but not disconnect.
[00:26] <robin0800> yadira, you put a dot in front of the name but that may stop it working
[00:26] <qin> travis_: Is your upgrade broken?
[00:27] <travis_> qin: everything else about the OS seems fine
[00:27] <zelozelos> much easier then attrib +h  huh?
[00:28] <yadira> RobinJ, so if i remove the driver will they be gone,and how do i avoid this from happening again
[00:28] <Osmodivs> Hello. I just updated my system (Ubuntu 11.10 64bit) and after openning Blender, I got this message:    blender Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 280.13, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 285.05.09.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.   I know that after a restart X wont start, and I am going to be mad, So, How can I fix this problem?
[00:30] <travis_> qin: I can provide an address if you'd like to ssh in and poke around
[00:31] <qin> travis_: Can you try: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys; lsb_release -sc; uname -r
[00:31] <zelozelos> You know, the upgrade manager should say "we have a new version, its 11.10...however if you use any dirvers, have any tweaks done to the system or have made any changes (besides backgrounds n themes) dont do an upgrade, it may not work right. instead backup and do a full install " ;)
[00:32] <zelozelos> sorry, its just that soo many people end up with a broken os after upgrading
[00:33] <travis_> qin: still getting key errors, but i believe i can fix those.. im still a little concerned about the "medhods" error message
[00:33] <diabolical11> !
[00:33] <diabolical11> yawn
[00:34] <qin> travis_: Yes. Since it point to corrupded apt-get.
[00:34] <javier__> hi. In gparted I've seen that my nfts windows partition has bad sectors (physical damage). It doesnt work since some days. I would like to format, mark bad sectors not to use them and reinstall windows. Someone can asses me marking bad sectors???
[00:35] <marginalia> Osmodivs,you can edit the xorg.conf ,change the driver to nv and then start the x  ,when you log in ,you can easily update your driver
[00:36] <Tootsie> hi
[00:36] <qin> travis_: Or rather dpkg... one more second...
[00:36] <zelozelos> javier__, you should do that with the windows install /recovery itll go much easier (and mostly automatically) but you'll probably end up re-installing ubuntu as well
[00:37] <Tootsie> has anybody gotten audio working on the beagle board xm?
[00:37] <zelozelos> javier__, you will be reinstalling everything unless you do all the homework first. its kinda diffacult to reinstall windows w/o because win is such a hog and dosent consider that you may have another os on the system
[00:37] <javier__> zelozelos: i think there is not such /recovery in windows. What you mean is a partition for recover windows? I don't have that, only windows cd. But I can't boot from the cd
[00:37] <maheanuu> zelozelos, I completed all but the last  sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer  It told me that it wasn't available
[00:38] <zelozelos> maheanuu, hmmm. idk..i think because you are 32 bit and thats for 64?
[00:39] <javier__> zelozelos: but I did format windows partition and reinstall it before without loosing ubuntu partition. I can do the same, format windows partition and reinstall it there with windows cd without loosing ubuntu. But I think I won't fix the problem with bad sectors
[00:39] <zelozelos> javier__, not sure if format will skip bad sectors ...never had 2 deal with them b4
[00:39] <qin> travis_: Can you paste: apt-config dump
[00:40] <maheanuu> No I am 64 bit completely
[00:40] <zelozelos> maheanuu, try sudo apt-get purge flash installer, then sudo apt-get install flash installer
[00:40] <travis_> qin: $ apt-config dump APT ""; APT::Architecture "i386"; APT::Build-Essential ""; APT::Build-Essential:: "build-essential"; APT::Install-Recommends "true"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; APT::Authentication ""; APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true"; APT::NeverAutoRemove ""; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^firmware-linux.*"; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-firmware$"; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^linux-image.*"; APT::NeverAutoRemove:: "^kfreebsd-ima
[00:40] <zelozelos> maheanuu, that will purge any flash player settings, then reinstall the installer (use flash(tab) to autocomplete and see whats there)
[00:40] <javier__> so, someone has an idea about how to repair bad sectors in a disk?
[00:40] <qin> travis_: paste.ubuntu.com would help.
[00:41] <zelozelos> javier__, did you do some google ing? im sure the info is out there
[00:42] <johnjohn101> is s.m.a.r.t. hard drive tools still available in ubuntu?
[00:42] <jackoriper> hi,  im using cisco modem DPQ2160 , through wired lan i could able to do net, now im configuring for wlan, how to know ip address of modem ?
[00:42] <javier__> zelozelos: I will try a bit more in google
[00:42] <travis_> qin: never used ubuntu pastebin.. pretty cool :) .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/714743/
[00:42] <zelozelos> javier__, ill try as well ...maybe something ill need in the future
[00:44] <jpk> Hi, quick question: Is there a way to see which configure flags, or other build-time options, were used when a package maintainer built a package for ubuntu?
[00:44] <maheanuu> zelozelos,  It tells me that it cant do either neither are being found...   I am totally 64 bit and always have been
[00:44] <zelozelos> javier__, search "fix bad disk sectors linux" found tons of stuff
[00:44] <johnjohn101> javier_: try to install smartmontools from synaptic
[00:45] <javier__> mmm, yes, but I don't know if I should look about ntfs partition
[00:45] <zelozelos> maheanuu, ah ok, there is another way to get flash via a script...lemme see if i can find it again...i quit 64 bit because of flash heh
[00:46] <johnjohn101> javier__, the tools can tell you if you have a bad sector. I don't know if there is a chkdsk available. for ntfs through ubuntu
[00:46] <qin> travis_: apt-config -o Dir::Bin::methods=/usr/lib/apt/methods (this sould fix wired typo...)
[00:46] <celio> can anyone give me an impression on darkbuntu???
[00:47] <javier__> zelozelos: I have to leave, but thanks for help!
[00:47] <zelozelos> maheanuu, this should work   http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/install-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-on-ubuntu-904/
[00:47] <qin> travis_: But, you would want to reinstall apt-get anyway, going through config.
[00:47] <travis_> qin: that didnt quite fix the typeo
[00:48] <qin> travis_: hm?
[00:49] <travis_> qin:mistake in the command perhaps?.. i can try manually fixing it somewhere?
[00:49] <zelozelos> maheanuu, this is the link with the scrip    http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[00:49] <travis_> qin: or shall i just reinstall apt-get?
[00:49] <qin> travis_: Do not think so, apt-config is for it. Can you install?
[00:50] <CatalinaDave> Hello channel.  First time irc user. Need help set up winamp shoutcast on remote cloud server.
[00:50] <travis_> qin: havent tried
[00:52] <jackoriper> hi, how to know modem ip address ?
[00:52] <Corey> jackoriper: Hm?  Can you describe your topology and what you're trying to achieve?
[00:53] <oOze> jackoriper, http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[00:54] <zelozelos> jackoriper, i think it should be 192.168.0.1 but to find out you can try looking at the back of the modem, the paperwork it came with or their support site
[00:54] <RandomRoger> Hello, is there a way to manually add a program to the launcher ? I downloaded eclipse as I want to be sure I have the latest.
[00:54] <jackoriper> Corey: modem ( cisco dpq 2160)  connected with wired to laptop is working fine with pppoeconf. now im trying for wlan, i could see router with 192.168.0.1
[00:54] <jackoriper> but as tradtional modem ip  192.168.1.1 does not seems to work for cisco modem ? please help
[00:55] <Corey> jackoriper: Well, what IP does your computer see itself as having in the 192.168.0.0 range?
[00:55] <Corey> jackoriper: Alternately: pastebin the output of netstat -r
[00:55] <jackoriper> i need to save login authentication details into modem setting , so that i can do wlan
[00:55] <luist> hey guys… im running a live usb with ubuntu… is there anyway to read a file from the installed system or check if a package is installed from there?
[00:55] <Corey> jackoriper: Might talk to Cisco and see how they want you to handle it.
[00:56] <Stanley00> RandomRoger: Run the prog, then right click, keep in launcher.
[00:56] <RandomRoger> Yeah, but it does not work right for eclipse
[00:56] <RandomRoger> I know what you mean, it does work for most things.
[00:56] <itaylor57> RandomRoger, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE tells you how to create a launcher
[00:57] <RandomRoger> Thanks itaylor57
[00:57] <Corey> kyconquers: Yes
[00:57] <Corey> Er.
[00:57] <Corey> luist: Yes, there is.  man dpkg, pay attention to the --root= flag.  Adjust to taste.
[00:57] <itaylor57> RandomRoger, I have the latest eclipse running on mine
[00:57] <share> hi
[00:58] <share> if I open a link in wireshark for example it will use google chrome
[00:58] <share> I want Ubuntu to open it in Firefox
[00:58] <travis_> qin:seems like the command was case sensitive.. i think its working now
[00:58] <zelozelos> luist, you can mount the hd, but package managing is only done via root for that fs...dont think you can that way
[00:58] <share> where can I change default browser
[00:58] <episteme> share: should be able to do it via the browser
[00:59] <zelozelos> Oh nvm luist...see what Corey said
[00:59] <share> episteme: chrome says it's not default browser, firefox says it's default browser but programs open it with google chrome wth?
[00:59] <luist> zelozelos: Corey: uh? but the installed system is not even deb based
[01:00] <zelozelos> luist, is it a ubuntu question then?
[01:00] <episteme> share: very odd...is it possible to change the setting in wireshark itself?
[01:00] <luist> zelozelos: well if the solution is mount the hd in the ubuntu live system yes :P
[01:00] <|Slacker|> share, system settings>system info>default apps
[01:00] <robin0800> share, you could always remove chrome
[01:00] <share> it also happens in another apps
[01:00] <share> robin0800: :p
[01:01] <episteme> share: |Slacker|, got the right answer for you :) i was gonna head there next
[01:01] <zelozelos> luist rofl, no i mean is the system you are trying to mount or whatever ubuntu? red hat? debian? ...does it use apt?
[01:01] <|Slacker|> ;)
[01:01] <luist> zelozelos: nop its suse based
[01:01] <xangua> share: something weird about chromium/chrome is that when i install it it opens web stuff even when i sef firefox as my default browser
[01:01] <episteme> i assumed you had checked that already though :p
[01:01] <xangua> share: then i got tired and remove it
[01:01] <travis_> qin: thank you! bye
[01:01] <luist> zelozelos: maybe i should mount it and read the file i need then
[01:01] <share> xangua: yeah :\
[01:02] <|Slacker|> I only use FF and Opera
[01:02] <share> |Slacker|: tks I'll try but...
[01:02] <zelozelos> luist, youll have better luck in a suse support channel then...but maybe someone here will know...explain what you are trying to do a little more?
[01:03] <socrates_johnson> this is just a general question, but does anyone have a recommendation for how long to wait for a new release to "stabilize"...i've used ubuntu for a while but usually end up way behind the new release schedule...thanks
[01:03] <luist> zelozelos: im using a liveusb with my app to do some verifications on the hardware and software installed on a machine… about the OS i need to access a file inside /etc/ or check if the version package is installed
[01:03] <xangua> socrates_johnson: you can just use lts releases
[01:03] <stevecam> if i install ubuntu on to a disk that is with a vm, will it cause problems when i transfer this disk to the destination pc
[01:04] <Rainy-day> hi, I just install 11.04 on a thinkpad and gnome-terminal doesn't have a menu even though it thinks menu is on? Also when logging in there is no choice for 'classic ubuntu'?
[01:04] <zelozelos> luist oh, then yeah, just mount the partition find the file(s) and i suppose you can check and read any info you want...not sure though...never needed something like that myself
[01:05] <stevecam> or should i only install ubuntu on the machine it intends to run on
[01:05] <share> xangua: perhaps this is the thing sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser
[01:05] <socrates_johnson> xangua: i'm using 10.04 on one machine, but my laptop is 10.10 and I'm kind of itching to try gnome shell...I was just wondering if it's okay for daily use or if i should wait a while
[01:06] <pc-cp> hey, so im trying to run a exe file thru wine and it says Open the terminal, and cd into the directory where the .EXE is located. how do i do that?
[01:07] <|Slacker|> pc-cp, in the terminal do: wine path_to_exe/app.exe and be happy
[01:07] <xangua> socrates_johnson: depends, normal releases only have 18 months of support
[01:07] <|Slacker|> or yet...inside the exe dir do: wine app.exe
[01:07] <socrates_johnson> xangua: right, so i need to get off 10.10 at some point in the spring anyway i suppose
[01:08] <share> anyway Im gonna uninstall everything google related
[01:08]  * |Slacker| doesn't like chrome
[01:08] <share> |Slacker|: I just used it once in a while
[01:09] <episteme> used to use chrome...til i understood the true power of FF
[01:09] <|Slacker|> share, I see...my favorite browser is Opera but it gets sluggish in ubuntu while using facebook
[01:09] <share> never gave up from FF
[01:10] <share> |Slacker|: ok this is bit offtopic but Im used to FF and have no time to test other browsers
[01:10] <|Slacker|> go for ff then ;)
[01:11] <diabolical11> or chrome
[01:11] <share> LOL
[01:11] <zelozelos> pc-cp you want cd = change directory so like  cd /home/name/Desktop.....easier way, find the file via file manager, right click, open with whine...make sure its executable if not, right click the file, properties, permissions, check the execute as program box
[01:12] <share> I have uninstalled acpid after purgin google earth. Do I need acpid?
[01:13] <anecdotalrabbit> Having issues with 'rescan-scsi-bus -l' if anyone can help?
[01:13] <StrangeCharm> i'm having trouble upgrading to 11.10 using update-manager: it complains that there's not enough space on /. how can i resolve this?
[01:14] <zelozelos> StrangeCharm, disk is full? or almost? try getting rid of cache, old files n unused programs
[01:14] <cyber_> hai
[01:15] <StrangeCharm> zelozelos, no, the disk isn't full, i suspect a counting problem between partitions
[01:15] <cyber_> wath
[01:16] <zelozelos> StrangeCharm, ugh..not good..you dont wanna mess around with stuff like that unless you know exactly what you are doing.
[01:16] <zelozelos> StrangeCharm, r u backed up?
[01:16] <StrangeCharm> zelozelos, stuff like what?
[01:16] <zelozelos> StrangeCharm, advanced disk managment stuff
[01:18] <posideus> Hello.
[01:18] <rhizmoe> StrangeCharm: how not-full is it?
[01:18] <posideus> I am having a problem with my touchpad.  Might anyone be able to help?
[01:18] <e20100633> posideus: be more specific please
[01:19] <IVXX> Anyone want to buy a slightly used Macbook Pro 13" current model in good condition?
[01:19] <e20100633> IVXX: I'm living in Fidji, do you free shipping ? ;)
[01:19] <xangua> IVXX: wrong channel, don't do it again please ;)
[01:19] <xangua> !ot
[01:20] <StrangeCharm> rhizmoe, it claims to have no space, but there's lumps of gigabytes lying around. is there any way to tell the installer to extract someone else?
[01:20] <posideus> Well, I was having a problem making the sensitivity higher.  And I found an online tip.  Which, by typing something into the console, removed the touchpad tab from the system settings.  So, now I cannot disable my touchpad while typing.
[01:20] <IVXX> Sorry, lol
[01:20] <zelozelos> StrangeCharm, i suspect ist not the partitions, but is something else...its pretty hard to get a partition to report less space than it has unless you've already been messing around with it. otherwise if it says thers not enough space...theres not enough
[01:20] <IVXX> @Ubottu Hi
[01:22] <StrangeCharm> zelozelos, there is ostensibly exactly zero space in /, that seems fishy to me
[01:22] <|Slacker|> StrangeCharm, is the partition properly formatted and with a proper fs?
[01:23] <StrangeCharm> |Slacker|, i'm pretty sure. it's ext4, and has been working fine for months
[01:23] <|Slacker|> oh..it's a working ṕartition...
[01:24] <StrangeCharm> |Slacker|, yes. i'm trying to do an upgrade to 11.10
[01:24] <posideus> e20100633, so, no ideas?
[01:25] <grom358> I installed some IBM thing and it added some menu entries that I want to remove. Any ideas where it could of installed them.. I already checked in /usr/share/applications
[01:25] <e20100633> no, sorry posideus, I hope someone here will help you; if not, take your chance on the forum, you certainly have responses
[01:25] <grom358> I think it is installed to my user account
[01:25] <|Slacker|> StrangeCharm, ain't there any hidden files occupying space?
[01:25] <e20100633> s/you/you will/
[01:25] <posideus> Okay, thank you.
[01:27] <maheanuu> zelozelos,  I got it and tried it, but still having the halts with the error messages
[01:33] <ken__> my system stops booting after it remounts / r/w (just after /scripts/init-bottom finishes). i can boot by going into recovery mode and then selecting "continue", but with the normal boot option, it never gets past this
[01:34] <ken__> i've tried update-initramfs, and the computer is more or less still running -- e.g., it prints the status update from its raid controller 10 minutes after boot
[01:34] <justin3> hi ... i need some helb with the installation of ubuntu studio ... everytime when i will start the live usb it starts grub rescue
[01:35] <ken__> this was an online upgrade, so it's probably not a surprise that it's broken now
[01:35] <Tigerboy> which is best ubuntu studio 10.04 or 11.04?  Seems some packages are only 10.04.
[01:35] <justin3> are you talking to me ken?
[01:36] <ken__> justin3: nope, explaining my problem
[01:36] <justin3> ah okay ...
[01:36] <StepNjump> Is it best to have a dedicated /boot, /usr, /home partitions?
[01:37] <StrangeCharm> is there a gui applicaiton i can use to view the configuration of partitions i have inside a currently-mounted lvm?
[01:37] <grom358> StepNjump: depends
[01:37] <Rainy-day> Where is the setting to switch desktops using mouse wheel on desktop?
[01:37] <grom358> StrangeCharm: gparted maybe
[01:37] <StepNjump> grom358, with the new grub2, I guess a /boot partition is not needed right?
[01:38] <grom358> StepNjump: I haven't need a /boot partition in a long long time. IIRC it was more for support for large disks back in the day
[01:38] <Tigerboy> StepNjump: try /tmp / /home as a good way to go
[01:39] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: all linux requires /
[01:39] <StepNjump> tigerboy, ok I understand the reason for why have a separate /home partition but why for the /tmp?
[01:39] <bfallik> trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using update manager.  I get error msg "Could not find the release notes".  do-release-upgrade comlains "404 Not Found" for natty.tar.gz.gpg.  How can I upgrade?
[01:40] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: /tmp makes it more secure if it is a partition-- more important for a server
[01:40] <StepNjump> Tigerboy, my / now is my same as /home, /usr, /tmp, everything
[01:40] <StepNjump> oh ok
[01:40] <StrangeCharm> grom358, gparted won't even start for me
[01:41] <Tigerboy> stepnjump separate home can make it easier to recover data
[01:41] <StepNjump> and what about the /usr Tigerboy?
[01:41] <StrangeCharm> if i'm setting up a laptop for general use, what's the value of having a bunch of different partitions for different parts of the filesystem?
[01:41] <StepNjump> oh yes, tigerboy.. I will def. create a separate /home for sure
[01:41] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: no I don't recommend it--
[01:42] <StepNjump> oh yes, tigerboy.. just /, /home and swap right?
[01:42] <StepNjump> Worse case scenario /tmp
[01:43] <RandomRoger> Can anyone help with this http://pastebin.com/inKnF2JN ? Java is installed but the shell does not know it.
[01:43] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: /var is good too(at least 5 gig) I say make root at least 40 gig and tmp 10 gig home can be the remainder you want plenty on that to put files
[01:43] <StepNjump> Tigerboy, but I wonder though... If I only have one physical hard drive, the access to the files would be faster if /home would be on same partition as / no?
[01:43] <RandomRoger> I installed it with sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk openjdk-7-jre
[01:44] <StrangeCharm> StepNjump, what's the rationale for using different partitions on a typical user system?
[01:44] <StepNjump> ok
[01:44] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: tmp gets used by things like disk burner programs by default to put the temp image so that can gulp up 5gig in itself but it is cleared each boot.
[01:44] <RandomRoger> I was messing with path stuff earlier to try and get the oracle version working, before I opted to just use the opensource version.
[01:44] <ZeroAdam> before I upgraded to 11.10 I could ssh into the computer in the basement (also 11.10 now) and issue "w" to see all logged in users. Now when I do it, it just shows my user and not the other users which are logged into the machine. Any idea why that is or what i'm doing wrong?
[01:44] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: no that is not true it would not be faster
[01:44] <StepNjump> ok ok, what is /var for?
[01:45] <grom358> var == variable
[01:45] <grom358> its for like data .. like postgres database.. apache webroot.. things like that
[01:45] <StepNjump> On a 2 physical hard drives system, what would you put on sda and what would you put on sdb?
[01:45] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: holds data files and some things like drivers
[01:46] <OerHeks> StepNjump, see overview filetree > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[01:46] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: you can put another partition called data or whatever you like
[01:46] <StepNjump> thanks oerheks
[01:46] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: if you go to nautilus all the folders when you click filesystem are under root
[01:46] <grom358> different distros have different ideas on filesystem layout
[01:46] <StepNjump> I was thinking to put / on sda and /home and swap on sdb
[01:47] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: sounds good
[01:47] <grom358> yeah.. when using file browser the partitions don't matter that is all hidden from you
[01:48] <grom358> will to a degree
[01:48] <grom358> well*
[01:48] <OerHeks> set swap at the beginning of sdb and you'll be fine
[01:48] <StepNjump> so tigerboy, on which hdd would you put /usr, /tmp and others?
[01:48] <klync> pardon my ignorance, but what is the name of the launcher / taskbar thing on the lhs of the new and "improved" gnome desktop?
[01:48] <grom358> klync: you talking about Gnome or Ubuntu Unity?
[01:48] <Delphious> you mean shell or unity?
[01:48] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: it doesn't matter only make sure you have enough space to put them with good sizes
[01:48] <grom358> Ubuntu have replaced the gnome shell with Unity
[01:48] <s3gfault> RandomRoger: try ls -lah /usr/bin/java make sure that points to /etc/alternatives/java then try  sudo update-alternatives --config java and select the java you want
[01:49] <StepNjump> ok
[01:49] <episteme> grom358: replaced...improved imo :p
[01:49] <StepNjump> maybe /tmp on sdb
[01:49] <RandomRoger> K, will try.
[01:49] <grom358> stepnjump: I tend to have 1 partition so I don't need to work out what size I want each as
[01:49] <klync> grom358: when i instlla 11.10, that's no longer a "gnome" desktop, even, we call it "unity desktop"? ok. ... well the launch bar in Unity then
[01:49] <StepNjump> so they can be accessed simultaneously
[01:49] <Tigerboy> stepnjump: good plan
[01:49] <grom358> PS.. I hate Unity
[01:49] <grom358> and I hate Gnome 3 shell
[01:49] <grom358> so.. now I'm on XFCE
[01:49] <StepNjump> Ok guys, thank you very much!
[01:49] <Kutakizukari> I installed ModSecurity via "apt-get install libapache-mod-security" on Ubuntu 10.04. How do I tell which version of ModSecurity it installed?
[01:49] <ZeroAdam> how do you like it grom?
[01:50] <grom358> XFCE is more like Gnome 2.. which I was for the most part happy with
[01:50] <robin0800> !notunity | grom358
[01:50] <StepNjump> I have just a small acer netbook and ubuntu 11.04 works great now with a 5GB swap at 70 swappiness
[01:50] <grom358> sorry Gnome Fallback sucks
[01:50] <posideus> Well, I was having a problem making the sensitivity higher.  And I found an online tip.  Which, by typing something into the console, removed the touchpad tab from the system settings.  So, now I cannot disable my touchpad while typing.
[01:50] <grom358> Fallback mode just doesn't cut it either
[01:51] <ken__> why does oneiric server use networkmanager??
[01:51] <s3gfault> Kutakizukari: dpkg -l | grep libapache-mod-security
[01:51] <grom358> and I tried KDE but the little things I couldn't get used too either
[01:51] <jedix> like what?
[01:51] <RandomRoger> s3gfault, there is no java in /usr/bin or /etc/alternatives
[01:51] <jedix> you can change things
[01:51] <jedix> all things
[01:51] <robin0800> !notunity | classic is good can be configured and can run compiz
[01:52] <grom358> jedix: yeah I could probably configure it to how I want.. but so much effort. Was easier to switch to XFCE
[01:52] <jedix> haha
[01:52] <klync> anyway, i just installed 11.10 and copied my home folder from my old debian5 system (gnome 2.4 or 2.6), and it essentially works, but a few of the apps i had in my old panel come out on this new toolbar without any icons (eg "trash"), i just want to delete them and readd from the app menu as i open them ... can anyone guide me there?
[01:52] <grom358> robin0800: well I will have to disagree. I tried Classic
[01:52] <jedix> klync: maybe grep for the name?
[01:52] <Kutakizukari> s3gfault: Thanks!
[01:52] <jedix> I can't guide you
[01:53] <ken__> and does anyone know how to fix the tg3 firmware error?
[01:53] <grom358> sorry but 11.10 as been major fail in my eyes
[01:53] <klync> jedix: i suppose that's better than blindly deleting ~/.g* folders one by one .... :/
[01:54] <pp7>  
[01:55] <posideus> Well, I was having a problem making the sensitivity higher on my touchpad.  And I found an online tip.  Which, by typing something into the console, removed the touchpad tab from the system settings.  So, now I cannot disable my touchpad while typing.  (TL;DR, I need to re-enable my touchpad to be a touchpad, and not a mouse.)
[01:56] <StepNjump> Thanks again tigerboy, grom358, oerherks for your help
[01:56] <s3gfault> RandomRoger: the packages get installed to /usr/lib/jvm the dir is java-7-openjdk you can chk there, to fix tho try apt-get purge the packages then apt-get install
[01:56] <RandomRoger> ok thanks
[01:56] <s3gfault> np
[01:56] <StrangeCharm> how should i set up the partitions on a new ubuntu desktop machine
[01:57] <pp7> anyone else see graphical glitches when setting the unity panel (not launcher) to transparent?
[01:57] <geordee> A question on Unity launcher. Is there any way I can remove the glow around the icons?
[01:58] <ZeroAdam> StrangeCharm: you don't want to let the installer do the default?
[01:59] <s3gfault> StrangeCharm: i like 3 partitions for a desktop swap, /, and /home
[02:00] <StrangeCharm> ZeroAdam, what's the default, and why is that a good plan?
[02:00] <AkiRa_> quick question- Is there any reason why ubuntu struggles to run a java script webpage like youtube.com WHILE running other applications; or trying to : Is it because of wine? Must wine run say youtube.com?
[02:00] <coyls3> anyone else having problems with workspace lag in 11.10?
[02:00] <StrangeCharm> s3gfault, why do people recommend setting up other partitions for other things?
[02:00] <shawnboy> can 2 host keys for same IP exist in known_hosts file?
[02:01] <ZeroAdam> StrangeCharm: I agree with s3gfault if not default. I've always heard that the swap partition should be 1.5 to 2 times the system RAM
[02:01] <AkiRa_> you can find any song you want to listen to on youtube.com but when you try to run something else the sytem locks up
[02:01] <grom358> i been thinking of ditching swap partition and using a file mounted as partition for swap
[02:01] <grom358> most of the time my swap never gets used
[02:01] <ZeroAdam> StrangeCharm: I just didn't know if you needed something special with your partitions
[02:02] <s3gfault> StrangeCharm: different preferences maybe, servers require a different scheme for sure
[02:03] <shadow98> i have cron job to echo out to terminal every minute and its not doing it...this is just for testing
[02:03] <shadow98> there is nothing in /var/log
[02:03] <StrangeCharm> ZeroAdam, nope, i just want something that won't break or require maintenance on a desktop. why should swap be 1.5-2x ram?
[02:03] <shadow98> for cron
[02:03] <iLogic> anyone managed to get gnome shell extentions (theme selector, especifically) running on ubuntu 11.10?
[02:04] <Aleo> hello ppl
[02:04] <coyls3> I'm having severe lag issues with 11.10. Any advice?
[02:04] <AkiRa_> explain?
[02:04] <blsh0p> hey you guys know how you can resize the icon size on your desktop? Well, it has a limit on how big you can make the icon size. How do i get rid of that limit? I want to make an icon thats really, really big but it has a limit
[02:05] <AkiRa_> use a magnifing glass or an eye piece ;P
[02:05] <blsh0p> coyls3 so am i, 11.04 ran so well, but 11.10 is weirdly slower
[02:05] <AkiRa_> What is slow? when how?
[02:06] <blsh0p> 11.10 seems slower than 11.04
[02:06] <ssn767> shawnboy, 2 host keys w/ the same IP may depend on the connection.  I have a *nix server with a floating IP.  Using cygwin SSH works fine but tonight, after a fail over, SFTP connection failed.
[02:06] <blsh0p> like, with opening windows, and start up, and running
[02:06] <StrangeCharm> s3gfault, where can i read and understand the reasons for different partition schemes?
[02:06] <coyls3> Typing, the mouse, youtube, everything just laggs
[02:07] <jedix> klync: indeed
[02:07] <AkiRa_> were you able to use youtube and run something else at the same time with another version?
[02:07] <coyls3> installed the driver, tried switching to 2d, but still lagging
[02:07] <geordee> Here is a problem. I have disabled Unity plugin using CCSM. Now I am not able to access any menu items. How do I set it back on?
[02:07] <coyls3> I was in 11.04
[02:08] <ZeroAdam> StrangeCharm: Honestly with my Ubuntu machines I just let it do its own partitioning, I have a few ArchLinux machines as well that I do like s3gfault said, one for '/', '/home' and 'swap'
[02:08] <s3gfault> StrangeCharm: try google linux recommended partition scheme
[02:08] <blake> Hello guys :D
[02:08] <shawnboy> ssn767: I run Jaunty & Lucid on one machine and I always get the host key error when sshing into one, then the other.
[02:08] <StrangeCharm> s3gfault, most of the results are very outdated, and don't show their work.
[02:08] <AkiRa_> im using 11.1 and i get lag alot- typing sometimes lags-  if i try to use youtube to listen to music and run another program it can't load
[02:08] <StrangeCharm> ZeroAdam, how big should / be?
[02:09] <coyls3> akiRa same here
[02:09] <AkiRa_> does this not happen on other versions?
[02:09] <AkiRa_> becase ill switch right now
[02:09] <shawnboy> ssn, so I figured there must be a way to get ssh to accept either host key as valid for that IP.
[02:09] <coyls3> it didn't on 11.04 when not using the driver.
[02:10] <AkiRa_> i use youtube because you can find any music you want- but i cant run anything else- and on youtube- it skips alot
[02:10] <AkiRa_> what is "not using the driver"?
[02:10] <coyls3> same here. I'm looking for advice
[02:10] <coyls3> the additional drivers
[02:11] <Osmodivs> Hello. Wheres the trash bin in Gnome3? I can't find it
[02:11] <AkiRa_> so as soon as you installed additional drivers you got a repeat?
[02:11] <AkiRa_> on other version?
[02:12] <AkiRa_> ive asked the youtube + other program issue for weeks on end
[02:12] <AkiRa_> you wont get a responce here
[02:12] <s3gfault> StrangeCharm: the partition sizes change over time but the purpose of the directories and the reasons fo r the recommendation hasnt really i.e. /home is user dirs, /var is variable fiels like data and logs, /tmp for temp data
[02:12] <coyls3> In 11.04 it lagged when I installed the driver , but didn't when I uninstalled it. In 11.10 it laggs no matter what I do
[02:12] <AkiRa_> is there a way you can ask a tech that creates ubuntu? are you able to email an actual member of the staff?
[02:12] <CaptWho> what does the filesystem /run/shm do?
[02:13] <coyls3> I don't know. That's why I came here
[02:13] <AkiRa_> noone here seems to fancy that kind of thing
[02:13] <AkiRa_> your the first person i met with same problem
[02:13] <coyls3> :(
[02:14] <coyls3> Are you using a AMD system?
[02:14] <AkiRa_> not sure why its so rare- guess people only listen to prerecorded set music
[02:14] <Mene-Mene> Where might I find a place to ask a linux related programming question?
[02:14] <AkiRa_> intel
[02:14] <Mene-Mene> I don't want to get shouted off of some chan because it's not ISO C++.
[02:14] <AkiRa_> so its a broad spectrum
[02:14] <coyls3> your the first intel person I known to have the problem
[02:15] <AkiRa_> core 2 duo
[02:15] <CaptWho> is there a way to change the size of a filesystem without destroying the data inside?
[02:15] <coyls3> I think it has to do with Unity
[02:16] <coyls3> because even the 2d unity laggs.
[02:16] <AkiRa_> i dont know what that is- but my HD goes insane when im on youtube.com playing music
[02:16] <s3gfault> CaptWho: depends on fs type
[02:16] <AkiRa_> most other things can manage- but if i try to use wine and im on youtube.com playing something i have to shut the laptop screen and relog
[02:16] <coyls3> Unity is the desktop interface.
[02:17] <BentSpace> Is it better to have a separate /home partition?
[02:17] <AkiRa_> i also have weird random things pop up in txts- and tab key doesnt always work- or i click somewhere and type and cursor moves
[02:17] <CaptWho> s3gfault, it's the common ubuntu one  ??4
[02:17] <CaptWho> can't remember what the first 2 letters are  :-\
[02:18] <coyls3> AkiRa Have you try Linux Mint or Pinguy os.
[02:18] <AkiRa_> no
[02:18] <xangua> !ot
[02:18] <s3gfault> CaptWho: ext3 and ext4 can be resized, run mount and see the fs type for your partition, it slikely one of those
[02:19] <coyls3> they are based on Ubuntu but use Gnome 2 desktop. try them out and see if you still have problems
[02:19] <AkiRa_> im only using ubuntu because my HD crashed and i have a laptop- and laptops dont come with an OS -
[02:19] <AkiRa_> and i aint spendin 200 bucks for vista or microsoft
[02:20] <CaptWho> they're ext4
[02:20] <geordee> How do I launch compizconfig-settings-manager from terminal?
[02:20] <coyls3> I'm switching back to pinguy os if I can't fix the lag
[02:20] <AkiRa_> are commands the same?
[02:20] <coyls3> yes
[02:20] <xangua> geordee: ccsm
[02:21] <geordee> xangua: Thank You!
[02:21] <s3gfault> CaptWho: google resize ext4
[02:21] <AkiRa_> layout similar? boot time fast?
[02:21] <coyls3> it looks kinda like a mac but all the termial commands and everything is the same
[02:21] <AkiRa_> i have never used a mac
[02:21] <coyls3> layout is different
[02:21] <AkiRa_> but im dos literate
[02:21] <CaptWho> thanks s3gfault
[02:21] <xangua> AkiRa_: coyls3 you can take your non-ubuntu talk to the offtopic or private ;)
[02:21] <s3gfault> np
[02:22] <AkiRa_> xangua
[02:22] <AkiRa_> answer are ubuntu questions
[02:22] <AkiRa_> and we will
[02:22] <AkiRa_> our
[02:22] <coyls3> go to pinguyos.com and you can see screen shots
[02:22] <AkiRa_> but since noone has the answer
[02:22] <AkiRa_> yet we use ubuntu
[02:23] <AkiRa_> why is it not acceptable to talk here?
[02:23] <AkiRa_> as it is ubuntu we are using
[02:23] <AkiRa_> its not like i can just email customer support
[02:23] <AkiRa_> and although this channel is extemely helpful its completley biased as well
[02:24] <coyls3> pinguy os and linux mint are ubuntu core so this is ubuntu talk
[02:24] <AkiRa_> and will give you the cold shoulder the second someone doesn't have an answer and hates the responce followed.
[02:24] <xangua> please jsut stop the offtopic
[02:24] <coyls3> help us and we will
[02:24] <kanja> I have a softlink to a directory. The directory has permissions of 755, and the softlink has permission of 777. Why can't my http user cd into the softlink?
[02:25] <kanja> what do you need help with
[02:25] <AkiRa_> please just answer a legitimate ubuntu question that i have asked for three weeks now
[02:25] <AkiRa_> or give me a channel that allowes me to get it answered
[02:25] <s3gfault> kanja: is your webserver set to allow follow symlinks
[02:25] <klync> kanja: <Options>FollowSymlinks</Options> or sth like that inside  a <Directory>
[02:26] <kanja> s3gfault klync: it's not the webserver - the user itself can't cd into the right place
[02:26] <kanja> although it looks like it can't cd in the non symlinked folder
[02:26] <coyls3> xangua do you know how to stop 11.10 from lagging?
[02:26] <kanja> that's the problem, right?
[02:27] <kanja> I figured a symlink would jump the containing path, but it still needs to check the whole path
[02:28] <klync> kanja: oh, iirc the process (i.e. the apache user) needs to have +x on all directories from / right up to the one you're cd-ing into
[02:28] <ssn767> shawnboy, Solution may also depend on the client your using to SSH.  I.e. where and how the keys are stored.  Also, if your using the same IP's can you use the same hostnames?
[02:28] <kanja> klync: It's not the apache process - I have a shell with the http user
[02:28] <kanja> but yeah
[02:28] <kanja> that's the problem
[02:28] <kanja> I misunderstood how symlinks and directories work
[02:29] <klync> kanja: needs perms to read the symlink, *and* to find the target .... so +x all the way up both trees
[02:29] <kanja> yup
[02:30] <Majin_Ryoichi> hey guys whats up
[02:30] <Lotny2> hi
[02:30] <Majin_Ryoichi> hello, how are you this evening?
[02:30] <kanja> klync: thanks
[02:31] <Lotny2> i wonder if making router from pc is good idea ? it'll be 5 NICs in 1 PC.. but each NIC will be 40 Gbit, and i wonder if pc can handle this
[02:32] <Akira_> as long as you fix IRQ conflicts it will be fine
[02:32] <klync> kanja: :)
[02:33] <Lotny2> i havnt seen "IRQ conflicts" in years :) or mayby its some other type of IRQ ? like per frame or pocet
[02:33] <cypha> how do I get to the touchpad options from the command line?
[02:33] <cypha> even if I summon the gui from there
[02:33] <cajunlady> gpm?
[02:34] <cypha> no
[02:34] <cajunlady> ok
[02:34] <cypha> I want to enable horizontal scrolling
[02:34] <Mogga> i just installed a 10gbe nic - are there drivers i need to install? i can see it using lspci but it doesn't show up
[02:34] <Akira_> if you have the slots on the motherboard you can run as many nic cards as you want- if you have an outdated wifi router I can see complications
[02:34] <dardevelin> hello everyone
[02:34] <Ryoichi> hello
[02:34] <dardevelin> how is it going?
, of course drivers are needed. what is the nic's chipset?
[02:35] <Ryoichi> nothin much, you
[02:35] <dardevelin> is this the right place to make a couple questions about quickly ? the new ubuntu framework
[02:35] <Mogga> cajunlady: NetXen NX3031
[02:35] <Ryoichi> think so
[02:35] <Mogga> dual 10gbe
[02:35] <bluesfreak72> Hi there.  How do I add a 2nd user account when I'm running xfce4 on oneiric?
[02:36] <dardevelin> I'm trying to learn a couple things with python and gtk and i'm wondering if the framework can be easily deployed on other gnu systems (mainly debian )
[02:36] <dardevelin> did anyone used it ?
[02:36] <Ryoichi> i have no clue
[02:37] <Ryoichi> i
[02:38] <phong_> hi guys, my system just got update...how can i make it look like the classic
[02:38] <phong_> i hate the new interface menu
[02:38] <Mogga> cajunlady: it's an hp card - nc522sfp
[02:38] <phong_> i want the classic menu
[02:38] <s3gfault> dardevelin: you basically need to make sure the dependent libs are installed in teh deb install you want to deploy to, if they are standard libs they are likely available in debian
[02:38] <xangua> !nounity | phong_
[02:38] <jkfangTW> Hi, there. Does anyone try omap4-extras-multimedia  for pandaboard for Oneiric ?
[02:38] <cajunlady> Nogga, I'm still looking. There is some driver for NetXen NX3031, though a lot of people saying it doesn't work in their linux
[02:39] <Mogga> cajunlady: i was looking for ixgbe but i think that's the wrong one - looks like it may need a newer kernel or… rhel
[02:39] <phong_> i have no clue
[02:39] <cypha> how do I get to Touchpad settings from the command line?
[02:40] <dardevelin> s3gfault, nice :D cause i liked it and i was wondering if i would have a Huber hassle getting to work
[02:40] <organiks> cypha did u put ubuntu on the touchpad
[02:40] <cypha> organiks, huh?
[02:40] <dardevelin> plus since its a framework it would be nice to be able to build stuff that works for all gnus :D
[02:42] <C_K_> hey'
[02:42] <C_K_> is anyone here?
[02:42] <p3llin0r3> yo0
[02:42] <C_K_> hi
[02:42] <p3llin0r3> hey friends i gots a question
[02:42] <Ryoichi> sorry i was busy
[02:42] <cajunlady> Mogga, I think the correct driver for that chipset would be "netxen_nic"
[02:42] <dardevelin> hey, if i can help sure, shout your question
[02:42] <p3llin0r3> soI wanna take a linux install, and move it to a new 2tb hard drive
[02:42] <Mogga> i'll try it out
[02:43] <p3llin0r3> is this possible?
[02:43] <p3llin0r3> what does it entail?
[02:43] <C_K_> i am trying to install ubuntu on my mac but the burner is broken so i burned it with windows.
[02:43] <p3llin0r3> this is a completely new system, but I wanna keep the same stuff cuz its a webserver
[02:43] <C_K_> anyone when i put the cd in it says error prefix not set
[02:43] <p3llin0r3> advise?
[02:43] <Mogga> cajunlady: is that available via apt? i'm on 10.04LTS
[02:43] <Atharva> Hi.. How can I change the logiin (User Selection) Screen ?
[02:43] <C_K_> then it gives me the option to install ubunut and after that the screen goes back
[02:43] <dardevelin> p3llin0r3, yes its possible just depends how you have it installed now
[02:44] <C_K_> black*
[02:44] <p3llin0r3> its an ancient distro apparently
[02:44] <C_K_> and stays black forever
[02:44] <dardevelin> i heard about remastersys
[02:44] <p3llin0r3> im doing this for my boss I'm gonna update it
[02:44] <C_K_> put it in my pc and the disk works fine
[02:44] <p3llin0r3> and tehn move it over. will it autodetect all of the newhardware?
[02:44] <s3gfault> p3llin0r3: possible yes, but not advisable
[02:44] <dardevelin> p3llin0r3, if the drivers are in the kernel probably
[02:44] <cajunlady> Mogga, I think you might need to recompile the kernel to get it
[02:45] <dardevelin> but would be recomendable to actually just keep the config files and replace those
[02:45] <[snake]> where is the icon for the FIle system(or any other hdd) located? pixmaps?
[02:45] <Mogga> cajunlady: there's a first time for everything can you linkslap me
[02:45] <p3llin0r3> ok.
[02:45] <p3llin0r3> tanks.
[02:45] <s3gfault> [snake]: /usr/share/icons i would guess
[02:45] <p3llin0r3> ill probably just backup, udate
[02:45] <p3llin0r3> *update
[02:45] <p3llin0r3> then see how it goes.
[02:46] <FloodBot1> p3llin0r3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <cajunlady> Mogga, here's a link to the driver- http://filedownloads.qlogic.com/files/driver/71878/Release_Notes_4_0_305.html
[02:46] <p3llin0r3> are there any good imaging software you guys can reccommend?
[02:47] <Mogga> cajunlady: wow - great
[02:47] <Mogga> thanks
[02:48] <s3gfault> p3llin0r3: you can use tar with the proper options to create an archive of the whole install but there are some extra steps, just untar it and boot the machine and it will not work
[02:48] <C_K_> can anyone help me?
[02:48] <p3llin0r3> ok thanks.
[02:48] <ssn767> p3llin0r3, also something to also keep in mind is software that may require an export/import and not just a config copy.
[02:48] <p3llin0r3> kk
[02:50] <Mogga> cajunlady: looks like there is support from 9.04 - what does 'inbox support' mean?
[02:50] <cajunlady> Mogga, that means it should have been there in your ubuntu install already. strange it didn't detect the card
[02:51] <Mogga> shows up with lspci
[02:52] <cajunlady> the netxen_nic driver might not have the pci id of your exact card, I suppose
[02:54] <okee> I have encountered some problems installing Ubuntu 11.02   Initially I tried to install it within win 7, but it wouldn't install.  After the install was complete I received a purple screen.  I then tried installing it twice at bootup, but it stopped in the middle of the installation.  I am wondering if my disk is bad, or if there is something wrong with the hardware?  How do I find out?
[02:55] <Corey> 11.02?
[02:55] <Ryoichi> you mean 11.04?
[02:55] <pgoode> does anyone know if there is a current problem with 11.04 upgrades?
[02:56] <LurkMoar> how often do you get a linux noob in here who has nuked thier Windows trying to side by side?
[02:56] <cajunlady> often?
[02:56] <RickKnight> Quake2 won't run after upgrade to Kubuntu 11.10. Other OpenGL games like Unreal still work.
[02:57] <C_K_> hi
[02:57] <Ryoichi> okee, i don't know what to tell you :/
[02:57] <Steve132> what is the difference between nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates packages?
[02:57] <C_K_> can is anyone a mac user dual booting ubuntu here?
[02:58] <pgoode> running do-release-upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 results in "WARNING:root:file 'natty.tar.gz.gpg' missing"
[02:58] <cajunlady> C_K), you mean by running a pc emulator to run ubuntu?
[02:58] <evan__> is there any way to get dvorak-qwerty on ubuntu? I used to use a program but it no longer works on 11.10
[02:59] <zaccagnino> any idea why my window borders dont show up after i boot sometimes
[02:59] <Steve132> cajunlady: I'm not C_K, but no thats not what he means.  macs and pc's have the same hardware nowadays
[02:59] <Steve132> so he probably just installed ubuntu on his mac, which is really easy and a lot of people do it
[03:00] <C_K_> cajun
[03:00] <C_K_> i am trying to dual boot mac and ubuntu
[03:00] <zaccagnino> any idea why my window borders dont show up after i boot sometimes
[03:00] <alexle> hello
[03:00] <C_K_> but having issues been trying a lld ay
[03:01] <bimal> Hello all, I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on my system but the Live cd is not booting. I have tried with Alternate cd but it also stops after showing me first screen
[03:01] <C_K_> the mac won't read my usb drive or the cd i burned
[03:01] <cajunlady> C_K_, ok. If though it doesn't work out, there's already a netbsd build for macs
[03:01] <C_K_> netbsd>
[03:02] <cajunlady> netbsd is another *nix OS
[03:02] <Mogga> cajunlady: there wouldn't be any issue putting this 8 lane card in a 16 lane slot aside right?
[03:02] <C_K_> is it well supported?
[03:02] <C_K_> i like ubuntu
[03:02] <C_K_> but i can't get it to work
[03:03] <cajunlady> C_K_, netbsd supports a couple dozen different platforms
[03:03] <rezbd> is it possible to run Ubuntu 11.10 on a netbook of Atom processor 1.66 Ghz with 1 GB RAM ?
[03:03] <cajunlady> Mogga, I don't know. I have an old 3com
[03:03] <TheFlyingFish> Hey, anybody know a quick way to reset the MBR?  I used to know how to do it with lilo, but lilo doesn't seem to be available anymore
[03:04] <cajunlady> C_K_, if at some point you decide to give up, www.netbsd.org
[03:04] <DFM> exit
[03:04] <C_K_> mac will read it easily?
[03:05] <Ryoichi> omg, I really need to learn more stuff about Ubuntu, every question on here people ask, I'm like, I need to study
[03:05] <C_K_> can i ask you this one suestion
[03:05] <C_K_> if you can't answer it ima give up
[03:05] <C_K_> '
[03:05] <C_K_> when i boot from the cd it says error prefix not set
[03:05] <cajunlady> go ahead
[03:05] <C_K_> then it gives me the option to install ubuntu
[03:05] <keithclark> My broadcom wireless does not seem to work with 11.10...is this a bug?
[03:05] <C_K_> after i click instal the screen goes black and stays black forever
[03:05] <cajunlady> that means it's not built to handle your mac's cpu chip and bios
[03:06] <C_K_> so ubuntu 11.10 doesn't support it?
[03:06] <C_K_> or i burned it wrong?
[03:06] <cajunlady> it would appear not
[03:07] <C_K_> my mac burner is broken so i burned it with my pc but i don't think that would make a difference
[03:07] <cajunlady> I doubt you burned it wrong, but you can check your burn agains the iso file
[03:07] <C_K_> it works fine on my pc
[03:07] <cajunlady> that's because pcs aren't macs
[03:07] <C_K_> ya
[03:07] <keithclark> Anyone with a broadcom solution?
[03:08] <C_K_> but the instructions just say to burn the iso onto a disk, same as pc
[03:08] <C_K_> so burning on a dif platform is the same right?
[03:08] <lamez> May I acquire some help?
[03:08] <cajunlady> C_K_, the same thing happened to someone with an intel 64bit chip who tried to use the ubuntu for amd64bit machines
[03:08] <TheFlyingFish> keithclark, have you looked into ndiswrapper?  it worked for me a couple years ago
[03:08] <C_K_> ok
[03:08] <C_K_> what did he do?
[03:09] <keithclark> TheFlyingFish: no, never needed it before this release....
[03:09] <cajunlady> don't know, but it just won't boot
[03:09] <TheFlyingFish> I have no idea if it still works, but you could give it a shot
[03:09] <LurkMoar> anyone know about installing onto USB HDD only to find it has borked Windows on internal HDD?
[03:09] <C_K_> foaming rage
[03:09] <C_K_> j/k thanks for the help
[03:09] <TheFlyingFish> it uses the windows drivers to run the wireless card, as I recall
[03:09] <C_K_> i will check out netbsd
[03:10] <cajunlady> but C_K_, you could try netbsd,
[03:10] <keithclark> TheFlyingFish: yeah, I don't want to go that route. 11.10 seems to be a very, very troublesome release
[03:10] <peng__> It is
[03:11] <TheFlyingFish> yeah, it's weird - 10.04 solved all kinds of issues for me, but 11.10 is just breaking it all again
[03:11] <keithclark> Oh yeah...
[03:11] <keithclark> Might be a deal breaker for me
[03:11] <Aleo> hello all
[03:11] <peng__> Because of Gnome 3 is too orsome.
[03:11] <C_K_> cajunlady, do you think it has anything to do with it be 64 bit?
[03:11] <Mogga> cajunlady: needs a bios update
[03:12] <Mogga> cajunlady: the big sticker on the box that i threw to one side
[03:12] <TheFlyingFish> oh well, think I fixed my MBR issues, so i'll peace out
[03:12] <ssn767> cajunlady, not familiar with Mac's but if it's an option and suitable for C_K_'s needs is there a virtual machine program, VMWare, Virtual Box, etc, available to install into?
[03:12] <cajunlady> C_K_, try the 32bit if you like
[03:12] <Spaceghost> Hello.
[03:12] <Aleo> my Dash home is on the Launcher is not supposed to be on the top panel on the right ?
[03:12] <Mogga> ssn767: vbox
[03:12] <ssn767> cajunlady, you two have me curious now.
[03:12] <Spaceghost> Hey guys.
[03:12] <okee> Ryoichi>  Hmm.  I am wondering if there is a way to check the integrity of the disk?  Maybe I should reburn it and set the burning software to "integrity check"?
[03:12] <cajunlady> it's C_k_'s machine
[03:13] <C_K_> i would if i had more cd's
[03:13] <Spaceghost> Why Ubuntu made the alternative of Unity in Qt instead of GTK?
[03:13] <C_K_> I think i will pass
[03:13] <Spaceghost> and why didn't just make a same thing with the option of dishability the 3d effects?
[03:13] <cajunlady> if you try the netbsd, they have it for both 68k and ppc macs
[03:13] <Spaceghost> Why another one shell was required for legacy PCs?
[03:13] <okee> Should I remove the sector that the failed Ubuntu installation was on?  I don't see how to do that with Ubuntu 11.02
[03:13] <cajunlady> Mogga, you need a bios update?
[03:14] <C_K_> can i do the same things on netbsd that i can do on ubunut
[03:14] <cajunlady> yes
[03:14] <Mogga> cajunlady: yeah - the box the nic came in had a big sticker on the front saying a bios update is necessary… i ignored it
[03:14] <blake> hi i reinstall ubuntu and i have home folder on a separate partition and want to edit fstab so i can see my files again...any ideas how to do it with UUid
[03:15] <cajunlady> Mogga, hopefully flashing the bios will help
[03:15] <C_K_> does it have a simiar .batch file system
[03:15] <cajunlady> C_K_, it has all the same shells available, if you mean shell scripts
[03:16] <C_K_> ya
[03:16] <C_K_> ok thanks
[03:16] <cajunlady> or at least the statndard shells
[03:16] <C_K_> do you like netbsd more?
[03:16] <C_K_> than ubuntu?
[03:16] <C_K_> and is it lighter?
[03:17] <cajunlady> I like bsd (in general) though one problem is that because it's not as popular sometimes you need to try harder to find the same software
[03:18] <Spaceghost> There is another better channel for discuss and ask about these things?
[03:18] <cajunlady> I think netbsd is plenty fast on my pc
[03:18] <Spaceghost> Ubiquity and the community steps.
[03:18] <C_K_> i only want to use it for coding
[03:18] <cajunlady> sorry spaceghost
[03:18] <Spaceghost> cajunlady: sorry for what?
[03:18] <cajunlady> for introducing an offtopic conversation
[03:19] <dbb> anyone know how I can make the palimpsest GUI spit out the commands it is issuing?
[03:19] <Spaceghost> cajunlady: did you?
[03:20] <jameson> Hello all, I have updated to Oneiric (x86_64 host) and am no longer able to run 32 bit binaries. It looks like there was a huge overhaul for multiarch support. What can I do to exec 32 bit bins, again?
[03:20] <cajunlady> I brought it up after C_K_ said ubuntu won't boot his mac
[03:20] <blake> anyone
[03:21] <kanja> I'm trying to diagnose some slow performace I've been having on my computer
[03:21] <kanja> I think it's my hd
[03:21] <kanja> http://pastebin.com/vV0xnfqa - do these seem poor for an ssd?
[03:21] <blake> ??
[03:21] <evan__> does anyone know how to get dvorak qwerty on ubuntu 11.10
[03:21] <Spaceghost> I mean
[03:21] <Spaceghost> if did you do it
[03:21] <Spaceghost> I thought that I was me.
[03:22] <kanja> The  line 2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 110.86 s, 19.4 MB/s concerns me - 19.4 mbs seems really low
[03:22] <blake> anyone
[03:23] <kanja> is it possible I have some kind of intermittent issue? How could I disagnose that?
[03:23] <w30> jameson, you are saying your 32bit libs are gone?
[03:24] <lucas-arg> back to 11.04... dammmmm u 11.10
[03:24] <luxgeek> Can someone tell me or point me to a doc to install the broadcomm drivers like the livecd let's you? I just installed 11.10 and it's not finding them on the usb stick...
[03:24] <w30> jameson, or are they there but aren't called by the 32 bit binary
[03:24] <dbb> kanja: sometimes people use capital-M for mega-BYTES and lower-m for mega-BITS
[03:24] <dbb> since its possible to measure either way
[03:24] <dmenear> Installing 32 bit Ubuntu 11.10 on 64 bit windows  7 box- no option for installing alongside windows appears- any idea why?
[03:24] <luxgeek> the livecd automatically found them and installed them....but not having any luck doing it after install :(
[03:25] <lucas-arg> luxgeek, open synaptic and type broadcom select sta-something or read about those packages to see which one has ur drivers
[03:25] <kanja> dbb: ah thanks for the heads up.
[03:25] <luxgeek> thx...I'll give it a try :)
[03:26] <jameson> @w30 well, I have a toolchain that is compiled for 32 bit, but I'm getting the old "no such file" type message that shows up when you try to run a binary on the wrong architecture
[03:26] <GooeY> Hi, all. Could someone help me with an ubuntu problem? can't connect to the internet after installation
[03:26] <dbb> kanja: I dont know how you might diagnose a disk-issue.. though the palimpsest "Disk Utility" has some fancy graphs.. (what I was here to ask about)
[03:28] <dbb> also, the gkrellm monitor can be set to show cumulative or individual disk performance.. on my boot disk just now, I see between 50-80Mb/sec read
[03:28] <w30> jameson, it exists in /bin or  /user/bin. i.e. you know where is then?
[03:29] <jameson> @w30, yea, it's in a custom path some place, I know where it is.
[03:29] <djjonex> CAN SETUP MYSQL-SERVER
[03:29] <djjonex> CANT*
[03:29] <dbb> kanja: now, testing a 2nd disk, a western digital black label with "Disk Utility" benchmark, I see between 60-100Mb/sec read
[03:30] <luxgeek> Can't seem to add my usb thumbdrive to the software sources...guess I'll have to burn a cd...unless someone knows how I can ad my thumbdrive to the sources?
[03:30] <Ubuntu_> i have a question
[03:30] <dbb> so yes, 20Mb/sec read would be slow
[03:31] <Ubuntu_> i have a macbook and i cant get the build in mic working in ubuntu
[03:31] <Ubuntu_> any ideas?
[03:31] <dbb> (I got a max of 110Mb/sec, atually)
[03:31] <Ubuntu_> hello?
[03:31] <w30> jameson, and is the path in your $PATH environment or have you done the /path/to/file/exe. typing in terminal?
[03:31] <Ubuntu_> HELLO?
[03:31] <dbb> Ubuntu_: please be patient..
[03:31] <Ubuntu_> okay
[03:32] <Ubuntu_> well im kinds in a hurry...
[03:32] <g0rs> dbb: i'm getting around 20 mb/sec on western digital hard drive even though its SATA. is there a way to increase its throughput?
[03:32] <dbb> maybe someone will answer you - I dont know the answer, but you will be sure to alienate people by demanding like that
[03:32] <elik> Ubuntu_: how much do you pay to be here?
[03:32] <cajunlady> dbb, 110mb/sec sustained xfers sounds great
[03:32] <Ubuntu_> okay
[03:33] <elik> My latest update made the network manager forget my password
[03:33] <dbb> yeah - I bought these disks on recommendation from a friend.. Western Digital Black label.. good stuff
[03:33] <Ubuntu_> i have a macbook and cant get the built in mic working. any ideas?
[03:33] <dmenear> Installing 32 bit Ubuntu 11.10 on 64 bit windows  7 box- no option for installing alongside windows appears- any idea why?
[03:33] <cajunlady> Ubuntu_ maybe you're lucky you got it to boot at all, C_K_ was having a problem with that
[03:34] <dbb> g0rs: disks have many layers of tech, that add up to the total performance.. I wouldnt try to say all the factors, myself
[03:34] <cajunlady> Ubuntu, which iso did you use?
[03:34] <sencha_> Does anyone know how ubuntu uses GVFS to mount a camera?
[03:34] <shawnboy> ssn767: sorry I was absent. supper. About ssh and same ip & hostnames... I use same LAN IP for this machine, but I use ubuntu-jaunty for one hostname and ubuntu-lucid for the other.
[03:35] <g0rs> dbb: i imagined that at sata speeds i would get anywhere between 50 to 100 mb/sec depending on cpu load. it seems like most cpu's cant throttle so much data even though the speed of a harddrive is 300mb/sec
[03:35] <GooeY> Hi, all. Could someone help me with an ubuntu problem? can't connect to the internet after installation. Beginner here
[03:35] <keithclark> Anyone know how to install the open source broadcom driver?  It used to work on all previous versions before 11.10
[03:35] <Ryoichi> are you trying to connect wirelessly?
[03:36] <GooeY> yes
[03:37] <Ryoichi> What Ubuntu version are you running?
[03:37] <GooeY> i just downloaded it, so the latest one
[03:37] <g0rs> dbb: what is the data transfer speed you're getting on your SATA drive?
[03:37] <Ryoichi> :/ alright, do you see a wifi looking symbol on the top right corner?
[03:39] <GooeY> yes, and it's all blank under wireless. I also tried a wired connection and that didn't work either
[03:39] <Ryoichi> :/
[03:39] <curious_yellow> why did ubuntu stop supporting 12 ?
[03:39]  * curious_yellow cries
[03:40] <joko_> can help me??
[03:40] <curious_yellow> do i really have to install a new system to get updates?
[03:40] <curious_yellow> really?
[03:40] <sencha> 12?
[03:40] <xangua> curious_yellow: supporting 12¿¿ because is not 2012 yet ;)
[03:40] <klync> i can't believe i managed to migrate my windows from vmware workstation 6.0 into 64bit 11.10 + virtualbox. now i just have to deal with fscking windows :/
[03:40] <curious_yellow> i think i have ubuntu server 12. something something
[03:40] <curious_yellow> and its not supported anymore
[03:40] <sencha> 11.10 is the latest iirc
[03:41] <xangua> curious_yellow: are you from the future¿
[03:41] <sencha> lol
[03:41]  * curious_yellow considers this question seriously
[03:41] <Ryoichi> well gooey, it may be a bug to you
[03:42] <GooeY> so nothing i can do?
[03:42] <curious_yellow> that would actually explain alot of things
[03:42] <Ryoichi> i wouldn't say that
[03:42] <cajunlady> what's next week's lottry numbers? :)
[03:42] <curious_yellow> i dont gamble - sorry
[03:43] <Ryoichi> It may that you haven't enabled wireless or wired internet connection
[03:43] <cutegirl> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:43] <cutegirl> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:43] <GooeY> if that's done in a control panel, I did and it says it is unable to do it
[03:43] <cutegirl> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:43] <Ryoichi> :/
[03:44] <darkfears> Does anyone know about VIA audio? my sound in ubuntu is limited to 44100 khz and the VIA chip I have is 192khz/24bit capable, the driver the system installed is ATI
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> !hi | cutegirl
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh wait that's no longer there
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> hmm
[03:44] <w30> cutegirl's cat is walking on her keyboard
[03:44] <oceanice> Hello, I require some help with trying to complete a Fresh Install of 11.10 today.
[03:44] <cutegirl> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:44] <cajunlady> darkfears, which via chipset?
[03:44] <cutegirl> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:44] <cutegirl> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:44] <cutegirl> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:44] <cutegirl> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohelloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> cutegirl:  please stop that
[03:44] <FloodBot1> cutegirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <cutegirl> theEvilPhoenix:....Really.............
[03:45] <coyls3> I'm having lag issues with 11.10
[03:45] <cutegirl> hi.......Akira
[03:45] <Ryoichi> Gooey, give me a few, i'll see what else could be the problem
[03:45] <GooeY> OK, thanks
[03:46] <organiks> anyone having sound issues with 11.10
[03:46] <oceanice> I have tried to install 11.10 several different time and several different ways and still get the "ERRNO 5" message. Could someone please help?
[03:46] <cutegirl> wts happnning here
[03:47] <cutegirl> can any one explain
[03:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> cutegirl:  is there something we can help you with?  this is the ubuntu support channel - #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat
[03:47] <mneptok> cutegirl: this is the Ubuntu support channel. do have have a support issue with Ubuntu?
[03:47] <cutegirl> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:47] <GooeY> cutegirl, it's a computer-related channel
[03:47] <mneptok> cutegirl: stop that
[03:47] <cutegirl> i wana support..hahahahah
[03:47] <phunyguy_> does anyone know how to make samba shares work like they do in nautilus with dolphin in kubuntu?
[03:48] <keithclark> Ok, wireless working....
[03:48] <Ryoichi> Gooey, I wonder if your network card is being recognized... let's test it:
[03:48] <Ryoichi> 1. In a terminal window (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal)
[03:48] <Ryoichi> 2. type the following command: ifconfig
[03:48] <Ryoichi> 3. Please paste all of what you see beside "eth0".
[03:48] <cutegirl> someone coming and someone quiting
[03:48] <cutegirl> ehyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:49] <mneptok> cutegirl: do you have a question?
[03:49] <oceanice> I am having a difficult issue with installing 11.10 today.
[03:49] <cutegirl> ya i have a uestion
[03:49] <GooeY> ryoichi, can i msg you?
[03:49] <lucas-arg> phunyguy_, dude open system config thing in kde... theres an option there to do it from there...!
[03:49] <Ryoichi> sure
[03:49] <GooeY> ok
[03:49] <phunyguy_> lucas-arg: thanks
[03:49] <CaptWho> cutegirl is probebly a 50 year old guy trolling
[03:49] <keithclark> How to get two monitors to act as one big monitor?
[03:49] <cutegirl> my quwstion is why we use ubuntu
[03:50] <oceanice> "ERRNO 5" installing 11.10
[03:50] <cutegirl> wht
[03:50] <Ryoichi> thanks mneptok
[03:50] <johnjohn101> tx
[03:50] <dardevelin> keithclark, use tween view
[03:50] <phunyguy_> lucas-arg: maybe I am missing it? I see a spot for username and password to use by default with shares
[03:50] <keithclark> dardevelin, ?
[03:50] <phunyguy_> lucas-arg: and I can see the shares in dolphine
[03:51] <phunyguy_> lucas-arg: But, I cannot get non-aware apps to see that share like I could in regular Ubuntu
[03:52] <oceanice> Can someone help with an "ERRNO 5" installation issue with 11.10 -- Fresh Install with USB or CD
[03:52] <phunyguy_> CaptWho: she is probably 8 years old.
[03:52] <lucas-arg> !samba > phunyguy_
[03:52] <_joey> how do I mount windows share in gnome on latest ubuntu?
[03:52] <_joey> thanks
[03:53] <keithclark> dardevelin, maybe I require a driver?
[03:53] <phunyguy_> lucas-arg: as stated in my original question, straight samba mounts via cmd line are out of the question.
[03:53] <keithclark> dardevelin, It worked under Fedora
[03:53] <phunyguy_> btw fail on the bot command
[03:53] <CaptWho> i'd guess that most 8 year olds have no idea what IRC is
[03:53] <dardevelin> keithclark, maybe dunno. What gfx do you use?
[03:53] <phunyguy_> oh nevermind, missed pm
[03:53] <Netham46> Anyone know of any third-party onlive client?
[03:53] <Netham46> I'd like to get it to work on ubuntu on ARM.
[03:53] <CaptWho> and this one didn't seem all that exceptional
[03:54] <keithclark> dardevelin, ATI 200m
[03:54] <hombrezuelo> hi
[03:54] <phunyguy_> but yeah lucas-arg: I prefer to not mount via command line / root.  It causes issues over VPN, etc.
[03:54] <johnjohn101> what hardware is ubuntu on arm intended for?
[03:54] <Netham46> johnjohn101, ... ARM hardware.
[03:54] <hombrezuelo> i need help with irc
[03:54] <phunyguy_> lucas-arg: I have been using samba for years, I just havent been using gvfs for years  :)
[03:55] <cajunlady> A.R.M is Advanced Risc Machine
[03:55] <dardevelin> keithclark, humm, i'm not familiar with Ati cards and not an expert on ubuntu ( more a debian user ) so i retreat to someone more experienced
[03:55] <oceanice> Can someone help with an "ERRNO 5" installation issue with 11.10? -- Fresh Install with USB or CD
[03:55] <hombrezuelo> i was triying to get access in a room, but igot alwas a message cannot send to the channel
[03:55] <_joey> how do I mount windows share in gnome on latest ubuntu?
[03:55] <TheEvilPhoenix> !register | hombrezuelo
[03:58] <johnjohn101> oceanice, i feel your pain.  I think error 5 is an access denied error
[03:59] <Mafeki> what do you think of windows 8 tablets?
[04:00] <Ryoichi> i think it's going to be a nightmare
[04:00] <Mafeki> why?
[04:00] <Mafeki> sounds promising.
[04:00] <lauratika> i have a list of installed software and want to use dselect but has too many options how to use it any ideas?
[04:00] <Netham46> I think it's going to be awesome, I'll finally be able to get ubuntu off my tablet
[04:00] <johnjohn101> there are tablets that run ubuntu?
[04:00] <Mafeki> what is ubuntu?
[04:01] <Netham46> Mafeki, fail troll is fail.
[04:01] <Mafeki> I really don't know.
[04:01] <Ryoichi> >.>
[04:01] <Mafeki> is it an OS?
[04:01] <cajunlady> it is one distribution of linux
[04:01] <donttrip> how can I bring up the login applet from command line?
[04:01] <klync> lauratika: if it's just a straight list you might do `cat mylist.txt | xargs apt-get install `
[04:02] <Mafeki> So ubuntu is linux?
[04:02] <Ryoichi> wait, Netham, can ubuntu be used used with touch screens like tablets?
[04:03] <Ryoichi> Ubuntu is a Linux OS
[04:03] <yagoo> Ryoichi, not it isn't.. It's The OS
[04:03] <Mafeki> oh
[04:04] <durando> ubuntu 11.10 is epic fail, some update fried my system, so i completely reinstalled 11.10 from iso and couldn't get networking to work, now using 11.04 again
[04:04] <overdub> Ubuntu 11.10 running flawlessly on my ThinkPad X220 tablet right now
[04:04] <Ryoichi> xD
[04:04] <Ryoichi> i'm running 11.04
[04:04] <Mafeki> so should I get a windows 8 tablet?
[04:04] <Mafeki> I'm thinking about buying one.
[04:04] <Ryoichi> i would wait
[04:04] <Mafeki> I never used a tablet before.
[04:04] <yagoo> durando, u should of come here to fix that
[04:04] <qin> Mafeki: Yes, and install Linux on it ;)
[04:05] <durando> Mafeki: i own an android tablet that i'm thinking about putting ubuntu on (galaxy 7" tablet)
[04:05] <johnjohn101> what tablet runs ubuntu?  i'm serious..
[04:05] <luxgeek> Ok, when using the 11.10 livecd from a usb stick, i could conn using my built-in wireless as it installed the additional drivers avail....Installing it to the sys, with those same drivers installed...it's not letting me "turn on" the wireless conn...ideas why?
[04:05] <Ryoichi> Ooh, They really need to make an Ubuntu Tablet
[04:05] <MrPocketz> Is there a Visio equiv for ubuntu?
[04:05] <durando> of course hacking your android tablet to run ubuntu does void warranties etc
[04:05] <overdub> the thinkpad is convertible, the screen flips around as a tablet, but I prefer to use it as a laptop
[04:05] <MrPocketz> something to make diagrams with?
[04:05] <luxgeek> Not having much luck finding info on web.
[04:05] <durando> yagoo: i couldn't get online to fix it
[04:06] <Mafeki> So should I really just get a good tablet then put ubuntu on it?
[04:06] <Mafeki> I never even used ubuntu
[04:06] <lauratika> klync:Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:06] <durando> lol Mafeki than why are you on a ubuntu channel?
[04:06] <donttrip> trying to get back to gnome2 in 11.04, tried different suggestions on web but can't get to the Login applet, can anyone help me switch back to gnome2
[04:06] <Ryoichi> that's what i was thinking xD
[04:06] <Mafeki> 'cause it has a crap load of people so I thought it was cool.
[04:07] <Ryoichi> omg......
[04:07] <qin> rofl
[04:07] <Mafeki> Soo... is ubuntu good for tablets?
[04:07] <yagoo> durando, u couldn't attach a wire to the laptop?
[04:07] <CaptWho> what's the difference between gnome 2 and xfce?
[04:07] <cajunlady> might depend on the kind of tablet
[04:08] <durando> Mafeki: from what i see its usable but i haven't tried it yet
[04:08] <qin> Mafeki: Propably you would be more happy with Android, but this is offtopic here
[04:08] <MrPocketz> get win8 for your tabler.
[04:08] <yagoo> CaptWho, ?? that's like comparing gnome and kde..
[04:08] <Ryoichi> i think Win8 is going to suckish, i just have a feeling
[04:08] <Mafeki> mrpocketz said windows 8
[04:08] <Ryoichi> to be*
[04:08] <luxgeek> of course if I could figure out why my eth conn wasn't working...would be better :P
[04:08] <organiks> can win8 be ported to touchpad?
[04:08] <MrPocketz> Ryoichi, i think it'll blow for anything BUT tablets
[04:08] <MrPocketz> have you played with it much?
[04:09] <cajunlady> xfce is a little bit lighter, but not amazingly
[04:09] <yagoo> Mafeki, i think that's what ubuntu is heading for.. tablets.. for any hardware? i don't know.. u'll have to google
[04:09] <CaptWho> so my experience has been that gnome is nicer than kde
[04:09] <Anom01y> for some reason my firefox pauses my music, when I kill firefox my music resumes ? any ideas ?
[04:09] <yagoo> CaptWho, that's your opinion.. I think that was true in the past..
[04:09] <Ryoichi> MrPocketz: your right, but I just have a feeling that Win8 is going to be just going to suck
[04:09] <cajunlady> it ties up the audio channel
[04:09] <Mafeki> Should I wait for the first Ubuntu tablet to come out?
[04:09] <yagoo> CaptWho, I think the opposite
[04:10] <yagoo> Mafeki, ya.. if u can wait the next 2-3 years.. sure.. if ur patient enough
[04:10] <CaptWho> yagoo, that might be true...  i haven't touched kde for years
[04:10] <Ryoichi> i wanna Ubuntu tablet :D
[04:10] <overdub> CaptWho: it's KDE that's running flawlessly on my thinkPad X220
[04:11] <organiks> does ubuntu work on touchpad?
[04:11] <yagoo> CaptWho, Um.. I've been using both interfaces for years. Gnome2 i like.. Gnome3 not.. I installed kde4x a few days ago and imho it's better than Gnome3.
[04:11] <overdub> I couldn't get away from gnome fast enough, your mileage may vary
[04:11] <yagoo> CaptWho, install kde and give it a whirl.. otherwise u're missing out
[04:11] <qin> CaptWho: Do you know this plastic covers for crt? kde looks the same.
[04:12] <CaptWho> i have 11.10 and i hate unity.  i want to get a desktop that's not as bloated.  someone recommended xfce which seems to be basically xbuntu
[04:12] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, did u try gnome-classic, gnome3 ?
[04:12] <yagoo> or gnome3?
[04:13] <Ryoichi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEhetGMWVdI
[04:13] <yagoo> CaptWho, ^
[04:13] <Ryoichi> That's a Ubuntu Tablet demo
[04:13] <geordee> install gnome-session-fallback
[04:13] <grom358> CaptWho: yeah.. xubuntu is ubuntu with XFCE desktop
[04:13] <geordee> I don't know whether I am slow to change or Unity is hard...
[04:13] <yagoo> CaptWho, apt-get install gnome-sessionfallback gnome-shell
[04:13] <grom358> CaptWho: I'm using XFCE
[04:13] <yagoo> CaptWho, apt-get install gnome-sessionfall-back gnome-shell
[04:13] <yagoo> argh
[04:13]  * yagoo cant type today
[04:13] <CaptWho> i didn't know that there was a gnome 3 that didn't have unity
[04:13] <bah> this isn't particularlly an ubuntu question, but does anyone know how to get tcsh to use tab for completion instead of ctrl+tab?  never run into this before
[04:14] <artem> Hello
[04:14] <yagoo> CaptWho, u can even install it from the gui with ubuntucenterone
[04:14] <yagoo> CaptWho, after.. u'll see new menu entries from the gear icon on the logon screen
[04:15] <dardevelin> cya
[04:15] <CaptWho> nice to know...   i think i'll give that a shot
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> artem:  hi.  do you have a support question?
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> bah:  did you check the tcsh manpages for anything?
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> bah:  i ask that because most people in here probably still use bash.  me, though, I use zsh :P
[04:16] <bah> yeah, I'm in the minority.  all us EE/hardware types tend towards tcsh, and everyone else on bash. :P  still hunting through google results for a hopeful answer
[04:16] <TheEvilPhoenix> !pm | artem
[04:16] <yagoo> bah, google "manpage tcsh"
[04:17] <cajunlady> I prefer tcsh. I especially prefer freebsd-tcsh's handling of completion
[04:17] <yagoo> bah, also in console -> apropos tcsh-- even the built-in command (believe theres this->) "help"
[04:17] <yagoo> lol
[04:17] <artem> what i dont know
[04:17] <Your_Dog> I have a question
[04:17] <cajunlady> that's one thing I miss when using linux tcsh
[04:17] <yagoo> Your_Dog, woof
[04:17] <Your_Dog> grrr...
[04:18] <yagoo> Your_Dog, awawawaw woof
[04:18] <CaptWho> i've been using the default shell it seems as nice now as tcsh was
[04:18] <bah> starting to think my problem is vnc.  can't even hit tab in vi insert mode
[04:18]  * yagoo likes the fisshell ..
[04:18] <Your_Dog> um.. my question is... how come I can only see grey? i though monitor has colors? :( woof!
[04:18] <bah> or maybe its xfce4. never used this WM before
[04:19] <yagoo> fisshell does automatic command descriptions if u do <tab><tab> (when trying to autocomplete command), if i recall properly
[04:19] <yagoo> fishshell i mean..
[04:19] <Ir0nman> Hello Im having a hard time getting the right resolution on my netbook
[04:19] <yagoo> dunno if this is in 11.10 though
[04:19] <Your_Dog> I don't eat fish, it makes me phishy...
[04:19] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[04:19] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[04:19] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer
[04:19] <yagoo> Ir0nman, is this the same netbook ur on irc?
[04:19] <Ir0nman> I would love to have the launcher set at the bottom but it seems that ubuntu is seeing the bottom of my screen "off" my phyiscal screen
[04:19] <Ir0nman> yes
[04:20] <Ir0nman> same netbook
[04:20] <yagoo> Ir0nman, do this-> apt-get install pastebinit, then ->cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log| pastebinit -t myxlog, then paste the url here
[04:20] <blah> ok. i install some stuff in my home folder ~/stuff
[04:20] <Ir0nman> sure thanks
[04:21] <blah> stuff has a folder called "~" . Yup
[04:21] <yagoo> blah, you must be related to bah
[04:21] <yagoo> bahahahaha
[04:21] <blah> ~/stuff/~/
[04:21] <salil> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10. What's the equivalent for "service iptables status" ?
[04:21] <bah> :P
[04:21] <yagoo> blah, u tried \~ ?
[04:21] <blah> so i'm in ~/stuff. and i do rm -rf ~/ , hoping to remove that subdirectory
[04:21] <blah> and poof
[04:22] <blah> rest is history
[04:22] <yagoo> blah, no stupid.
[04:22]  * yagoo DONT DO WHAT BLAH DID --> RM -RF ~/ << DANGEROUS
[04:22] <yagoo> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[04:22] <yagoo> blah, don't give dangerous commands in here
[04:22] <yagoo> blah, not good.
[04:22] <blah> well.. even adding an -i option only makes u blind to it after a few t imes
[04:22] <Ir0nman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/714827/
[04:23] <yagoo> blah, #linux
[04:23] <magn3ts> seriously.... ICS is just completely broken in 11.10
[04:23] <magn3ts> like, it locks up the computer and makes it unusable.
[04:23] <blah> anyways... where can i find a copy of the default home folder.. i don't see it on the LIVE cd
[04:23] <magn3ts> this is so wildly unacceptable.
[04:23] <blah> 11.10 has totally unacceptale UI
[04:23] <Ir0nman> UI is great
[04:23] <elky> blah /etc/skel iirc
[04:23] <Ir0nman> i love it
[04:24] <wildbat> where do i start looking  to debug/fix laptop screen button so that the screen will off when i close that laptop? right now it don't and " $ xset dpms force off " will turn of the screen for a few second and then it will turns back on even if no keyboard or mouse movement.
[04:24] <blah> where is the Show Desktop button in 11.10??????
[04:24] <elky> blah, but i recommend copying it, not deleting it
[04:24] <Ir0nman> it takes some tweaks to get it setup the way you want it
[04:24] <magn3ts> gnome-shell is fine, but how did y'all manage to break network settings so much taht enabling ICS breaks the entire desktop and makes it hang?
[04:24] <robin0800> !notunity | blah
[04:24] <yagoo> Ir0nman, your xlog shows no errors.. thats good.. what's in xorg.conf? (cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |pastebinit -t myxorgconf
[04:24] <Napoleone> yo all. just installed ubuntu server on my other desktop, and need to install SUN java, and all guides i find tells me  to "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sun-java-community-team/sun-java6" but sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found..
[04:25] <imbezol> every time i boot my system fails to mount my lvm partitions. I have to skip and then manually lvchange -a y <filesystem> for each before i can mount them. anyone else seen this?
[04:25] <swim> where is ubuntu's autostart list?  I'm not referring to the autostart app in the preferences menu, i mean the bash script.
[04:25] <Ir0nman> yagoo: no such file or directory
[04:25] <StepNjump> Hi guys, anybody familiar with grub here
[04:27] <yagoo> Ir0nman, ok do this.. (take pencil/paper)-- do ctl-alt-f1, sudo su -, stop lightdm, X -configure, cat ~/xorg.conf.new |pastebinit -t myxorgconf, then start lightdm, (ctl-alt-f7 switches to gui logon tty)
[04:27] <TheEvilPhoenix> StepNjump:  what about it
[04:27] <magn3ts> ... does anyone have ICS enabled to where it doesn't hang their machine
[04:28] <magn3ts> or have a way of fixing it? seeing as it fracking wont let me "configure" it at all now?
[04:28] <imbezol> ice cream sandwich?
[04:28] <yagoo> Ir0nman, u may have to write down what the url is
[04:28] <magn3ts> imbezol, I'd like that too, but sadly, Internet Connection Sharing.
[04:28] <Ir0nman> i can't switch back to current screen once back in GUI?
[04:28] <StepNjump> I have two ubuntu installations on sda1 and sda3. I want to get rid of sda3 installation. I installed grub in sda1 by doing sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda. I rebooted, everything works great. I deleted grub files in sda3. Now I want to go back in sda1 and delete everything in sda3 partition. Should I do that safely?
[04:29] <blah> elky, i don't get it.. why would i delete the .bashrc & .profile files in /etc/skel ?
[04:29] <StepNjump> TheEvilPhoenix sorry ... please read above
[04:29] <yagoo> Ir0nman, u can reply in this window.. there's too much traffic
[04:29] <magn3ts> I can't freaking believe this is broken, and broken *this* badly.
[04:29] <blah> elky, whyd u say 'copy, don't delete' ?
[04:29] <TheEvilPhoenix> StepNjump:  that sounds like a partition/Ubuntu question, not a grub one
[04:29] <StepNjump> TheEvilPhoenix. When I delete * in sda3, should I do a update-grub afterwards?
[04:30] <TheEvilPhoenix> StepNjump:  are you sure that sda1 is set to be the boot area?
[04:30] <yagoo> StepNjump, you're still on this problem?
[04:30] <yagoo> lol
[04:30] <StepNjump> Well after doing this TheEvilPhoenix, it rebooted. I don't think I have a /boot partition
[04:31] <StepNjump> Yes I think sda is the boot drive but not sure if sda1 is te boot area. In fact, it's not really sda1 it's sda6 but it's the same idea..
[04:31] <StepNjump> Hi yahoo.. yes, I want to be careful
[04:31] <StepNjump> I'm new
[04:31] <yagoo> StepNjump, backup ur stuff.. you were reluctant the other day and I left.. Backup ur ext3/ext4 /home stuff, wipe out all linux partitions and redo linux ..
[04:31] <StepNjump> yagoo, I think it's working now
[04:31]  * yagoo says StepNjump, has 2 Ubuntu installs he has no idea what partitions are represented by what
[04:32] <magn3ts> Did anyone test anything in Gnome3? I'm beginning to wonde.r
[04:32] <cajunlady> can anyone think of a good name for when ubuntu gets to "Z"? something zebra, I think. But I can't think of any good "Z"-words to put in fron of zebra
[04:32] <StepNjump> I just want to make sure sda is my boot partition
[04:32] <yagoo> lol
[04:32] <yagoo> that's why i cant help u.
[04:32] <yagoo> he's stubborn
[04:32]  * StepNjump yep
[04:32]  * StepNjump is learning 
[04:32] <imbezol> if it's still running unity, perhaps zero would be appropriate
[04:33] <geordee> I installed gnome-session-fallback. Now I can see Applications and Places, but not System
[04:33] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[04:33] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer ? Any fix
[04:33] <thevenerablez> if a device shows up with lspci, does that necessarily mean its driver is installed?
[04:33] <cajunlady> also the "Q" and "X" releases willbe hard to name
[04:33] <blah> i deleted my home folder ~/ part-accidentally (ubuntu is to blame too). where do i get a copy of the default home folder files ?   /etc/skel has only couple .bash config files
[04:33] <StepNjump> Like I sed earlier, I want to keep sda6 but want to delete sda8. Is it ok to rm * on sda8 and after, should I update-grub?
[04:33] <geordee> I am not able to right click on the top bar. Any help?
[04:34] <cajunlady> are there even any animals that start with a q or x?
[04:34] <magn3ts> ... does anyone have ICS enabled to where it doesn't hang their machine
[04:34]  * StepNjump going to bed. 73
[04:34] <Napoleone> quail
[04:34] <cajunlady> quvering quail
[04:35] <cajunlady> quivering quail
[04:35] <Napoleone> anything queen
[04:35] <attar> i like the sound of quixotic quail personally
[04:35] <cajunlady> yes, sounds good
[04:35] <Napoleone> hmm noone able to help with my problem
[04:35] <blah> i had a sub directory named '~' in my home directory: ~/stuff/~ . i was in stuff and did rm -rf ~/ hoping to remove stuff/~/ , but iot removed home directory instead.
[04:35] <magn3ts> can someone help me at least reset gnome3 network settings?
[04:35] <magn3ts> or am I really just shit out of luck?
[04:35] <yagoo> blah, that's not how u learn linux.
[04:36] <yagoo> blah, if u're really deleting ~/ like this.. then you're not really willing to learn..
[04:36] <thevenerablez> does anyone know of a way to connect to a secure network over wifi with the terminal?
[04:36] <yagoo> !ops blah giving DANGEROUS commands
[04:36] <yagoo> blah, I told you not to say that command. ITS NOT GOOD.
[04:36] <yagoo> blah, I told you not to say that command. ITS NOT GOOD.
[04:36] <blah> well. i blame linux too.. the intuitive / expected command does something totally unexpected
[04:37] <magn3ts> blah, you blame linux for executing your command?
[04:37] <magn3ts> dumb troll is dumb
[04:37] <blah> what ? the linux command for deleting a sub directory is rm -r dirname/
[04:37] <kostasuse> a bad workman blames his tools
[04:37] <blah> atleast that's how it works for most of the directories..
[04:38] <MTecknology> I just installed ubuntu server on a system and I can't figure out how to make the wireless go vroom... I know the card is supported and it worked in the installer, I can't figure out how to get it set up post-install...
[04:38] <magn3ts> blah and that's not what you typed. it's not linux's fault you don't understand BASIC path syntax.
[04:38] <NDS|Dog> Dang! I wasn't able to kill him, if it weren't because of this stupid gun!
[04:38] <MTecknology> (wpa2)
[04:38] <blah> that's exactly what i typed
[04:38] <blah> rm -r ~/
 CaptWho, apt-get install gnome-sessionfall-back gnome-shell
[04:38] <pangolin> blah: Do not type that command in here again or I will ban you.
[04:38] <cajunlady> blah, I don't even see how you managed to create such a sub-directory in the first place. "~" is reserved
[04:38] <CaptWho> taht didn't seem to work
[04:39] <yagoo> CaptWho, i mistyped-> gnome-session-fallback (if its not this then--> gnome-fallback-session )
[04:39] <yagoo> pangolin, thanks for reminding him.. he said it like 10 times already..
[04:39] <blah> well i didn't create it. i was installing some software, and it created it automatically
[04:39] <cajunlady> ubuntu will be pretty hard up for animals starting with X though
[04:39] <magn3ts> blah, what software created a folder named `~`?
[04:39] <blah> hadoop
[04:40]  * yagoo even told pangolin, i even told him to use \ in front of expandable variables
[04:40] <CaptWho> yagoo, it was the former
[04:40] <yagoo> dam
[04:40] <smw> magn3ts, mkdir \~ ?
[04:40]  * yagoo even told **blah****
[04:40] <yagoo> sorry pangolin
[04:40] <smw> magn3ts, works for me
[04:40] <yagoo> dam
[04:40] <magn3ts> ... blah, you're installing hadoop and you didn't know not to remove ~? are you kidding?
[04:40] <magn3ts> smw, and no respective "software" I've ever heard of will create a dir like that.
[04:41] <netxshare> anyone know how to fix this?
[04:41] <netxshare> sudo modprobe lirc_i2c
[04:41] <netxshare> FATAL: Module lirc_i2c not found.
[04:41] <smw> magn3ts, not unless 1. it was told to or 2. The developer is malicious.
[04:41] <smw> magn3ts, :-)
[04:41] <magn3ts> smw, that's my thinking, that's why I was curious what package or sw decided to do that on its own accord.
[04:41] <blah> yagoo, it's not a question of figuring out some extra escape variable syntax.. if linux has to gain popularity, it should let users shoot themselves in the foot so easily.. i mean is it that hard to add some extra precautions.. if the person who wrote rm could add an -i option, they might as well add a 'don't delete home directory ~, if there is a sub directory ~' option
[04:41] <luxgeek> Ok, am getting VERY frustrated...before installing to hd...I could turn on the built-in wifi by pressing the button...but now that it's installed (and the sys using the auto installed "restricted" drivers) I'm not able to...what gives?
[04:41] <blah> *should not
[04:42] <bah> aha,  xfce4 default keybindings break the tab key.  how annoying.
[04:42] <luxgeek> just installed 11.10
[04:42] <magn3ts> blah, the *Exact same thing* will happen on any operating system.
[04:42] <magn3ts> blah, it's user error, there is no discussion here.
[04:43] <magn3ts> so, now you're installing hadoop, know what interactive mode is on 'rm' and didn't know better than to not remove your home dir. you smell of troll
[04:43] <blah> of course it is the user error, why are u stating the obvious? all i'm saying is that linux shouldn't let them make the errors so easily
[04:43] <luxgeek> and my eth0 doesn't work either -.-
[04:43] <yagoo> blah, man rm, there is an -i option.. u can also edit ~/.bashrc to add your own alias rm='rm -i'
[04:43] <yagoo> blah, u are NOT ready to learn anything.
[04:43] <blah> like i said before, adding the -i only makes u blind to it after a while..
[04:43] <yagoo> blah, i told u about \ long long time ago as well
[04:43] <magn3ts>  /ignore time
[04:44] <blah> dude... i know how to do it now
[04:44] <Napoleone> why does it have to be so hard installing java...
[04:44] <luxgeek> any chance someone might have an idea what I can do to fix this? I'm using a diff mach to chat
[04:44] <smw> blah, all OSes would do that.
[04:44] <blah> my only rant is why the default behaviour of rm is to 'oh let me remove the parent directory ~ instead of the sub directory ~'
[04:45] <imbezol> bottom line is you should have a regular backup of ~
[04:45] <magn3ts> blah, if a "normal user" were ever installing hadoop (not that I believe that hadoop makes such a poorly named folder)... or if a "regular user" were using 'rm' period... you would have a case.
[04:45] <smw> bah, you seem to want it to do as I want, not as I ask
[04:45] <magn3ts> imbezol, a good point as well.
[04:46] <blah> "not that I believe that hadoop makes such a poorly named folder" - who in these parts believes anything they don't see for themselves ..
[04:46] <magn3ts> blah, sorry, I'm an atheist computer scientist biologist. I don't take anything for granted.
[04:46] <smw> blah, the idea that a developer would make it use a folder with that name by default is ridiculous.
[04:46] <smw> blah, anyways, it does not matter. Think before you type.
[04:47] <blah> fine.. like i said, do it urself and then believe
[04:47] <smw> blah, especially with the rm cmd
[04:47] <blah> anyways, i came here for a backup of the default home folder files.. can i find it on the live CD
[04:47] <smw> blah, I wiped out my windows partition when I tried to format a custom filesystem on my drive. Did I blame linux?
[04:48] <cajunlady> blash, create a new user with the adduser cmd, and copy those files it makes
[04:48] <smw> blah, I had a removable drive and wanted to format it for the wii.
[04:48] <h4v0kk> hey guys
[04:48] <h4v0kk> im in trouble
[04:48] <smw> blah, I learned alot from that experience
[04:48] <smw> blah, and I haven't had windows on that computer since.
[04:48] <smw> lol
[04:48] <h4v0kk> i know my password, but i accidently locked myself out of my server because i have a 3 wrong passes and ur ip gets banned type deal going
[04:48] <cajunlady> change your ip addy
[04:48] <magn3ts> blah, that's an interesting question, I would imagine at the very least you could boot the live cd and then copy the home dir in the live session.
[04:48] <h4v0kk> i dont have anything to do that
[04:48] <luxgeek> Wow, everyone's too busy bashing blah that my question/issue is lost :P
[04:48] <smw> h4v0kk, then undo that horrible system
[04:49] <smw> luxgeek, lol
[04:49] <h4v0kk> well, i forget what program it is that actually does that
[04:49] <h4v0kk> i dont think its ufw
[04:49] <h4v0kk> its something else
[04:49] <h4v0kk> i can get my friend to login if i knew what it was called
[04:49] <blah> i woudn't blame linux if the rm command had behaved intuitively (meaning ' rm should look to delete sub-directories before gunning for parent directories, even if it be '~')
[04:49] <magn3ts> luxgeek, sorry, I simply don't know. I don't have much experience with laptops, certainly none with hardware wifi toggles. I think it's a dumb feature anyway.
[04:49] <pangolin> !ot | blah
[04:49] <smw> h4v0kk, use a proxy
[04:49] <magn3ts> blah, it's not a "linux" thing, that's how the shell works.
[04:49] <luxgeek> Considering I'm being forced to use a windoze mach to try to get a solution as my newly installed 11.10 had NO net conn...
[04:50] <blah> how is the shell not linux ?
[04:50]  * magn3ts sighes
[04:50] <Ryoichi> well guys, i'lll talk to you guys later :D
[04:50] <blah> anyways, i'm just ranting here..
[04:50] <luxgeek> magn3ts Agreed...but sadly no option in the matter :P
[04:50] <cajunlady> the shell(s) are for more than just linux
[04:50] <pangolin> blah: Please stop the ranting.
[04:50] <Ryoichi> i'm going to bed, night guys :D
[04:51] <blah> yea.. anyone know where to get a copy of ~/ ?
[04:51] <blah> i mean officially.. like ubuntu live cd etc.
[04:51] <luxgeek> Anyone have any idea how I can get the built in wireless on this compaq to "toggle" on?
[04:51] <smw> blah, /etc/skel
[04:51] <cajunlady> blah, make another user with adduser
[04:51] <magn3ts> anyone know how to reset gnome3 networking settings? or fix ICS? or enable ICS without it hanging my system every 3 seconds (literally, actually literally)?
[04:51] <blah> i tried that i only has a couple .bash files
[04:51] <smw> blah, everything else is regenerated to defaults on login or use of the program
[04:52] <blah> whenever i open/close gedit it shouts a bunch of cant find .config/ warnings
[04:52] <h4v0kk> Does anyobdy here know the name of the program on a linux server that would block a certain amount of incorrect login attempts???
[04:52] <luxgeek> Also, my eth0 hardware shows up in lspci but that's not working "by default" either :/
[04:52] <blah> @cajun, hey good idea
[04:52] <smw> blah, restart the computer and login after copying /etc/skel/.* ~
[04:52] <magn3ts> h4v0kk, DENY_THRESHOLD_INVALID in your sshd config will do it.
[04:52] <smw> blah, oh, you first need to make the folder
[04:52] <sinatrajk> anyone on here know how to get adobe flash player to stop crashing?
[04:52] <magn3ts> luxgeek, you on 11.10?
[04:52] <blah> for some reason when i restarted the shell, it automatically created ~/ for me
[04:53] <rumpe1> h4v0kk, or maybe "fail2ban"
[04:53] <luxgeek> magn3ts Yessir
[04:53] <sinatrajk> i have oneiric and the current flash player
[04:53] <magn3ts> luxgeek, sadly, I'm having networking issues of my own :/
[04:53] <smw> blah, that makes no sense. Perhaps you never deleted it
[04:53] <magn3ts> that worked perfectly in gnome2 too
[04:53] <luxgeek> magn3ts Luvly :P
[04:54] <blah> now, smw, there is a limit to being a non-believer :)_
[04:54] <luxgeek> magn3ts May have to back down to 11.04 then eh? :P
[04:54] <luxgeek> lol
[04:54] <smw> blah, you would rather I believe something that could not possible happen happened?
[04:55] <magn3ts> luxgeek, frankly I plan on kicking and screaming in here and #gnome until someone helps me fix it, reset it, or tell me to file a bug report.
[04:55] <luxgeek> ikr :P
[04:55] <george> I'm trying to extra audio from an avi file and it tells me Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0 when I run the command ffmpeg -i file.mp4 file.mp3
[04:55] <blah> no. but entertain the doubt that u may not know 'what all is possible and what all is not possible'
[04:55] <luxgeek> Maybe we should use caps :P
[04:55] <luxgeek> lol
[04:55] <magn3ts> computers are determinisitic blah, it's not like things "just happen".
[04:56] <sinatrajk> is this chat actually useful? or should i just keep doing a google search?
[04:56] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, how is it crashing, what is current, what browser.
[04:56] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, the more info, the more likely you get help
[04:56] <blah> right, but if u think that something is impossible, u're not gonna believe me even if i say it hundred times.. so no point in trying to make u believe
[04:56] <george> is there a certain mp3 codec or something that needs to be installed for converting to mp3 format with ffmpeg?
[04:57] <sinatrajk> it is crashing in all browsers, it is saying that shockwave flash plugin has crashed
[04:57] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, what version of flash, hwo did you install it?
[04:57] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, also, again, what browsers? Chrome bundles it's own Flash player, for example.
[04:58] <luxgeek> magn3ts Oh well...guess I go back to 10.04 then...since no one is paying any attention to us ;/
[04:58] <cajunlady> blah, what missing files do you want to have?
[04:58] <sinatrajk> i used the software center to install flash and i have version 11.0.1.152
[04:58] <sinatrajk> i have tried chrome, chromium, and firefox
[04:58] <magn3ts> luxgeek, sorry man, which I knew more to help you. I can't go bac lol
[04:58] <blah> ya i think i found out - id installed some dconf editor that is throwing up errors now.. guess i can live without it
[04:58] <luxgeek> sigh...and was really hoping too :/
[04:58] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, interesting.
[04:59] <sinatrajk> when i try to access the flash settings, the settings menu locks up
[04:59] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, does it crash on *everything* or are you only trying a specific site?
[04:59] <sinatrajk> and will not allow me to try to disable hardware acceleration
[04:59] <sinatrajk> everything
[04:59] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, uh... what "flash settings" ?
[04:59] <sinatrajk> if you right click on a flash video, and click "settings"
[05:00] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, the browser locks up? or just the flash applet where the settings thingy loads into?
[05:00] <sinatrajk> just the flash applet
[05:00] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, what arch are you on?
[05:00] <sinatrajk> arch?
[05:00] <magn3ts> 386/amd64/ppc?
[05:00] <blah> anyways thanks guys for putting up with my reasonable rant and pointing me to /etc/skel.. now don't start saying the rant was unreasonable.. it is perfectly normal to expect rm to look to delete subfolders first instead of parents, so maybe a linux genius here can put that safeguard in the next kernel :)
[05:01] <sinatrajk> how do i find the architecture?
[05:01] <magn3ts> blah, it doesn't "look" for ~. before 'rm' even sees it, the shell has turned it into /home/blah. you literally don't understand how it works, your rant is misinformed.
[05:01] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, what iso did you download?
[05:01] <smw> sinatrajk, arch or uname -a
[05:02] <sinatrajk> Linux sinatrajk-System-Product-Name 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[05:02] <blah> oh well.. then put that safeguard in the shell then (when rm is being used)
[05:02] <smw> blah, in the kernel?
[05:02] <Netham46> Or don't run commands when you don't fully know what they do.
[05:03] <magn3ts> smw, it happens at the shell level.
[05:03] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, hm, I'm not sure... let me do a bit of looking at something real fast.
[05:03] <smw> magn3ts, which is why I put a question mark
[05:03] <smw> blah, that is not the shell's job?
[05:03] <blah> doesnt matter where the safeguard is put - that's a technical detail.. the end aim is to improve user experience
[05:03] <luxgeek> Later all...going back to 10.04 ...too bad the installed vers didn't work as well as the "live" vers :(
[05:03] <dr_willis> it pays to learn the basics.
[05:04] <smw> blah, it is not worth adding.
[05:04] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, what PPA did you enable to install flash?
[05:04] <magn3ts> to be fair, doing that one command that is really, really, bad... no longer works without an explicit override...
[05:04] <fritsch> magn3ts: none. flash64 is already in partner repo: adobe-flashplugin
[05:05] <sinatrajk> i just did the update from 11.04 to 11.10 a few days ago, i am not really sure about PPA, i am rather new at this
[05:05] <Netham46> blah, it's impossible to safeguard everything; idiots are ingenious.
[05:05] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, that was my bad, I forgot it's in the repos now.
[05:05] <blah> agree.. but still what rm or shell did was totally counter-intuitive
[05:05] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, I'm not really sure how to help you... you probably ought to try running it in a command line shell to see if you can see the crash message.
[05:06] <sinatrajk> how would i go about that?
[05:06] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, the only other suggestion I have is a PPA that might have a slightly newer version, but that may simply exacerbate the problem.
[05:06] <Netham46> also, blah, ~/ is your home directory.
[05:06] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, close all of your Firefox windows.
[05:06] <Netham46> (Don't delete it. :P)
[05:06] <sinatrajk> ok
[05:06] <blah> hah
[05:06] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, then open `gnome-terminal`. Type "firefox" and then go to the flash page. See if anything useful prints in the terminal
[05:06] <spartan2276> How can I gain my disk space back. Ubuntu says that I have 350 GB used when is a new install?
[05:07] <spartan2276> I have detected where all that space is .cache
[05:07] <magn3ts> spartan2276, whoa, that doesn't sound right at all.
[05:07] <magn3ts> spartan2276, that wouldn't even fit on an install disc ;o
[05:07] <spartan2276> can I delete the contents of .cache?
[05:07] <spartan2276> right but this is after the installl
[05:07] <blah> btw, someone earlier said 'all OSs would do the same thing linux did', but i don't think that's true. in other OSs i don't think the kernel would allow u to create a sub-directory called %APPDATA% or something
[05:08] <magn3ts> spartan2276, you can delete it with nautilus (ctrl+h to show hidden folders) or `rm -r .cache` from a terminal.
[05:08] <sinatrajk> FoxyProxy settingsDir: /home/sinatrajk/.mozilla/firefox/zaneo1qq.default/foxyproxy.xml
[05:08] <sinatrajk> that is all that came up
[05:08] <rumpe1> spartan2276, what's the full path for ".cache"?
[05:08] <blah> the bottom line is linux should have prevented some software (hadoop in this case) from creating a subdirectory named ~
[05:08] <spartan2276> oh ok I just want to make sure is not going to mess up my system
[05:08] <magn3ts> spartan2276, right, but how did it fill .cache will over 300 times what fits on the install disc.
[05:08] <smw> blah, but it would allow you to delete your home directory when you use ~
[05:08] <spartan2276> it is /home/<user>/.cache
[05:08] <smw> blah, why?
[05:08] <magn3ts> spartan2276, rumpe1 is right. this is strange enough that it deserves a second glance.
[05:09] <smw> blah, what if I want a subdirectory named ~?
[05:09] <dr_willis> my. cache is 200mb
[05:09] <blah> smw, well.. atleast prevent it for the normal (non-power) users
[05:10] <smw> blah, and why are you installing hadoop anyways?
[05:10] <smw> blah, I am curious now :-)
[05:10] <magn3ts> Can we agree it wouldn't be a bad idea to prevent rm from deleteing /home/X without an override, and then just leave it at that and move on with our obviously boring lives?
[05:10] <blah> when ubuntu 11.10 can remove something as important as a show desktop button, or can lock up its panels to prevent the average user from moving it by accident, it can sure prevent them from making a sub-dir called ~
[05:10] <rumpe1> spartan2276, hm... i would first move /home/<user>/.cache to something else like /home/<user>/.cache_off to see, if it causes any trouble. If no, you could remove it.
[05:10] <darkfears> whats the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu studio?
[05:10] <spartan2276> awesome, I got all the space back after deleting the .cache directory, thanks guys
[05:10] <magn3ts> darkfears, the theme and installed software.
[05:11] <cajunlady> magn3ts, unless it's root or sudo, you can't rm /home anyways
[05:11] <sinatrajk> nothing odd came up in the window,
[05:11] <magn3ts> cajunlady, yeah but unfortunately it will happily let you blow away your own home dir
[05:12] <rumpe1> blah, linux is not windows: the admin can do, whatever he wants. But because he is the admin, he should know at least the very basic stuff like being careful when spaces or ~ or anything like that occur in file/directorynames...
[05:12] <blah> gaahd. i just wasted half hr ranting on IRC !! stupid me
[05:12] <smw> blah, modify the rm code and have it ask you before deleting your home dir
[05:12] <smw> blah, sounds like a great project
[05:12] <cajunlady> magn3ts, there's no way to prevent that which wouldn't interfere with deleting files you really want gone
[05:12] <smw> blah, (allow -f to override)
[05:12] <rkhshm> I've been using 11.04 for over 3-4 months now, i guess
[05:13] <dr_willis> you can do it wuth a rm aluas
[05:13] <dr_willis> alias
[05:13] <rkhshm> and the flash on it "SUCKS"
[05:13] <rkhshm> when i open youtube in fulscreen i can see jitters while its playing
[05:13] <smw> dr_willis, no, something to just ask for $HOME. Nothing else.
[05:13] <sinatrajk> i am at a real loss, it started crashing completely after i updated the alsa drivers
[05:13] <rkhshm> but if i reduce the  size its smooth
[05:13] <rkhshm> any idea how to fix this?
[05:13] <sinatrajk> before that it was just missing the sound
[05:13] <rkhshm> currently the only solution i've found out is to reboot
[05:14] <magn3ts> cajunlady, sure it could, just like it prevents you from deleting the explicit root dir.
[05:14] <smw> dr_willis, they you don't become immune to the -i messages but it still stops you
[05:14] <dr_willis> smw there exist safer rm scripts. i recall
[05:14] <smw> dr_willis, interesting
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> !info safe-rm
[05:14] <magn3ts> cajunlady, if arg[1] == '/home/*/' && !override { exit(1); }
[05:14] <cypha> how do I get to Touchpad settings from the command line?
[05:14] <dr_willis> there ya go
[05:15] <cypha> hey dr_willis, haven't seen you in forever
[05:15] <cypha> how've you been?
[05:15] <Anom01y> !java
[05:15] <dr_willis> working 12hr days
[05:15] <rumpe1> rkhshm, well... i myself hope, that adobe will someday put some more effort in supporting linux-platforms. Maybe it works more reliable in a virtual machine.
[05:15] <cypha> that can't be fun
[05:16] <sinatrajk> nothing odd came up on the screen, but i think i should mention that the problem started happening after i updated the ALSA drivers, before that there was just no audio on anything at all
[05:16] <cajunlady> magn3ts, unthinking people like blah will always find a way to get in trouble, you can't protect against everything they might do
[05:16] <magn3ts> cajunlady, I don't disagree.
[05:16] <rkhshm> rumpe1: hmm.. thats bad that we are so stuck up with adobe even as they provide us with shit
[05:16] <rumpe1> cajunlady, sure you can. Take the admin-privileges from him :D
[05:16] <magn3ts> ha! I barely ever have the displeasure of using flash
[05:16] <magn3ts> rumpe1, he'll still be able to nuke all his own files though, which is what happened here.
[05:17] <cajunlady> rumpe1, yeah, that would work
[05:17] <dr_willis> ive seen rm to. trash type alias also
[05:17] <blah> no.. for a community to grow, u can't just say 'don't be a luser'.. when ppl make mistakes, which even bigshots do, u have to add in safeguards and tweaks and such
[05:18] <M11X> ask
[05:18] <dr_willis> you dont just add stuff to posix standard commands
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> blah: Many of us are here because some other OS' "safeguards" were preventing us from getting work done, so there are limits here.
[05:18] <M11X> hello?...
[05:18] <magn3ts> M11X, you said "ask"....
[05:18] <magn3ts> M11X, do you have a question?
[05:18] <cajunlady> I know, a new shell for the unthinking, which assumes every command is from a dummy
[05:19] <M11X> oh sorry.  it said i was banned and couldn't send messages in for a minute.
[05:19] <Napoleone> hmm anyone know if standard ubuntu server install has a firewall active?
[05:19] <smw> cajunlady, I like it!
[05:19] <M11X> yeah, sorry to be so upfront but i'm kinda running out of helpful hands.
[05:19] <magn3ts> M11X, well you're voiced now, don't get banned again, lol.
[05:19] <blah> uh huh then who added the -i option to rm ?
[05:19] <M11X> thank you magn3ts XD
[05:19] <rumpe1> blah, a safeguard for rm wouldn't be enough. You would also need safeguards for dd, grub, fdisk, ... No serious linux user would want that but maybe there will be one day a distribution for admins, who don't want to think about, what they are doing. :)
[05:20] <wunnle> hey all
[05:20] <xut_jc> hey
[05:20] <smw> blah, -i is optional. You need to have it enabled on purpose
[05:20] <magn3ts> some safe guards are good, some are overkill, the difference is where you draw the line. this discussion is boring and is a distraction to those who need help.
[05:21] <blah> ok how about a compromise. when i say 'rm ~/' rm should first look in sub - directories. i.e. the default action should be the least harmful one. sound good ?
[05:21] <heyitseric> im starting to wonder if i should start using a proxy server
[05:21] <smw> blah, once again, not possible
[05:21] <rumpe1> blah, magn3ts is right. If you want to continue the discussion, i would suggest we use #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <magn3ts> blah, no, again, that's a terrible terrible suggestion and is ignorant of how the shell and rm work.
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> blah: Um, 'rm ~/' would do absolutely nothing.  ~/ is a directory.
[05:21] <wunnle> how can i make ubuntu do NOT auto mouth a specific device?
[05:22] <xut_jc> what device wunnle?
[05:22] <blah> don't make me say rm -rf and get me banned
[05:22] <M11X> i hope you guys can help me: I did an update with some nvidia drivers on my ubuntu and now i get a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot... I've googled high and low, asked my friends irl and online.  so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and we think the problem is with xorg.conf
[05:22] <wunnle> xut_jc, an iPod
[05:22] <sinatrajk> how do i install a tar.gz?
[05:22] <xut_jc> Nautilus preferences have settings for Removable Devices automounts.
[05:22] <smw> !compile > sinatrajk
[05:22] <magn3ts> blah, I don't know what your point in this conversation is. You don't understand the concepts necessary to make this into a usable reality and just keep repeating yourself.
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> blah: So, you're saying that you should be able to use override options to make it more harmful and have it not do anything harmful?
[05:22] <rumpe1> sinatrajk, decompress it and follow the instructions (usually there's a "README"-textfile)
[05:23] <wunnle> xut_jc, where is that settings? forgive me, this is my second day on ubuntu.
[05:23] <magn3ts> sinatrajk,
[05:23] <M11X> i'm currently idling in grub... i can only boot into terminal through recovery mode.
[05:23] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, I assume it's a flash tar.gz?
[05:23] <dr_willis> you dont alter rm. you ould make a script that does what you want. that calls rm
[05:23] <rkhshm> rumpe1: is there no other alternative till this issue is fixed?
[05:23] <sinatrajk> yes
[05:23] <xut_jc> Launch Nautilus and go to Edit > Preferences.
[05:23] <xut_jc> Should be in there somewhere.
[05:23] <smw> magn3ts, what is a flash tar.gz?
[05:23] <blah> tony, yeah i guess. just like the default button in a 'sure u want to delete this file' is 'No' instead of 'Yes', same way, a safeguard in rm to do the less harmful of two choices
[05:24] <smw> sinatrajk, are you trying to install flash?
[05:24] <magn3ts> dr_willis, right, but you still wouldn't make rm look for `~` in subdirs, because by time rm is invoked, it's not `rm ~`, it's really, `rm /home/X` but with the right flag to make that dangerous.
[05:24] <sinatrajk> i am trying to fix flash
[05:24] <magn3ts> smw, sinatrajk is working with flash problems. I was inferring.
[05:24] <wunnle> xut_jc, no, there is not.
[05:24] <sindile> is there a ppa for the recently released pulseaudio 1.1
[05:24] <rumpe1> rkhshm, none that i know of. Well... or as i said: windows in a virtual machine could perhaps perform better.
[05:24] <xut_jc> Once you are there, the Media tab is what you need.
[05:24] <sinatrajk> it won't crashes after a second or two
[05:24] <smw> magn3ts, thanks
[05:24] <qt410x_> hi, does anyone know of pdf software that allows you to change the color of the text? evince has an invert option but that is almost as hard on the eyes as normal settings, and I have to read a long file...
[05:24] <xut_jc> It is there.
[05:24] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, I would recommend removing the flash you have installed and seeking out a PPA from "seven machines". It has a very up-to-date copy of flash 11.
[05:24] <M11X> is there a boot expert  in the house?
[05:25] <smw> !ask | M11X
[05:25] <dr_willis> tilda for home is a bash or shell expansion ibelive. rm disent even see the tilda..  so its not rms issue.
[05:25] <dr_willis> i dont have a tilda key onmy android. :-)
[05:25] <blah> yeah,, shell/rm .. doesn't matter where the safeguard is built as long as it is
[05:26] <magn3ts> dr_willis, yeah thats what I was saying :P
[05:26] <wunnle> xut_jc, by Nautilus, you meen a window right? (like explorer in windows) if so, there are 5 tabs, views, behavior, display, list coloumns, preview
[05:26] <wunnle> *mean
[05:26] <kjeet> hi, im running oneric and after this last update my mouse has been a little odd... it frezez for a few seconds, then randomly grabs and drags windows
[05:26] <magn3ts> blah, ok, I agree. now, let's all move on.
[05:26] <M11X> i hope you guys can help me: I did an update with some nvidia drivers on my ubuntu and now i get a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[05:26] <blah> yae
[05:26] <sinatrajk> when i go to the flash on sevenmachines, it says that it is deprecated
[05:26] <dr_willis> it does matter if utbreaks rhe posix standards
[05:26] <xut_jc> Yours seems different to mine then?!?
[05:27] <sagarchalise> sinatrajk, flash has released 64 bit version and it is available from partner repository
[05:27] <wunnle> xut_jc, !!1
[05:27] <magn3ts> sagarchalise, is it the most recent ver?
[05:27] <magn3ts> sagarchalise, like *the most recent*?
[05:27] <xut_jc> I will post a screenshot of mine if you like.
[05:28] <sagarchalise> magn3ts, I think its the released version not the beta one
[05:28] <wunnle> xut_jc, i can post you mine if you like.
[05:28] <wunnle> xut_jc, you use 11.10, right?
[05:28] <satellit_> how do I get the classic desktop in edbuntu 10.10?
[05:28] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, based on what sagarchalise is telling me and a quick check of version numbers... you're best off with the flash you had installed before.
[05:28] <xut_jc> No, 11.04.
[05:28] <magn3ts> sinatrajk, I don't know why it doesn't work, I'm very sorry.
[05:29] <sinatrajk> ok, thanks anyway
[05:29] <wunnle> xut_jc, that's the reason, i think
[05:29] <xut_jc> Nautilus 2.32.2.1. 11.10 version different obviously. Sorry but I did not realize.
[05:29] <cypha> how do I get to Touchpad settings from the command line?
[05:30] <wunnle> how can i make ubuntu do NOT auto mouth a specific device? (on ubuntu 11.10)
[05:30] <Anom01y> !worldwind
[05:30] <cajunlady> you could remove it from fstab
[05:30] <Anom01y> anyone know about Nasa World wind ?
[05:30] <Anom01y> can it work for ubuntu ?
[05:30] <Anom01y> I downloaded it and it is a java program (.jar files),
[05:30] <dr_willis> wunnle:  what kind of device. on boot or on.insertion
[05:31] <M11X> help: I'm getting a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[05:31] <Anom01y> I tried running them (java -jar ./worldwindx.jar)
[05:31] <Anom01y> and that did not work
[05:31] <Anom01y> none of hte .jar files work
[05:32] <dageriv> im going invest in a new laptop. how can i make sure all hardware and other things, will work correctly?
[05:32] <wunnle> dr_willis, an iPod. ubuntu does nothing with it, so every time i connect it's annoying to see the windows. on insertion.
[05:32] <wunnle> *the window
[05:32] <xut_jc> wunnle, this is mine here http://tinypic.com/r/5la1vn/7
[05:32] <cajunlady> dageriv, research make a list of all the hardware, then check each item for linux compatibility
[05:33] <dr_willis> dageriv: check out companys that sell preinstalled ubuntu laptops.
[05:33] <dr_willis> !ipod
[05:33] <magn3ts> dageriv, cajunlady, dr_willis or you can just look here, lol http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[05:33] <cajunlady> magn3ts, it's no fun having other people do your thinking for you
[05:34] <magn3ts> cajunlady, meh, compatibility is a PITA.
[05:34] <M11X> actually i came here hoping other people would do my thinking for me, lol
[05:34] <xut_jc> irc is no brain replacement system! lol
[05:35] <M11X> my friends and i are completely out of ideas, haha.
[05:35] <magn3ts> xut_jc, that's a terrifying thought considering the conversations I've seen take place here.
[05:35] <wunnle> dr_willis, i dont' want to sync my iPod. i just want to make it invisible to Ubuntu.
[05:35] <xut_jc> magn3ts: agreed!
[05:35] <xut_jc> lol
[05:35] <luxgeek> Anyone know where I can DL 11.04? Since 11.10 isn't cooperating in letting me get ANY net conn working...
[05:36] <xut_jc> Same server as where you got 11.10!
[05:36] <luxgeek> Nice try xut_jc but the dropdown isn't giving me the option...(from ubuntu's maisite)
[05:36] <luxgeek> * main site
[05:37] <xut_jc> 2 sec Google search will bring you up a link dude.
[05:37] <bbrandon> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[05:37] <magn3ts> luxgeek, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes#Download_Release
[05:37] <magn3ts> I always come here with a qeustion and end up doing support for an hour :P
[05:37] <xut_jc> http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[05:37] <bbrandon> xut_jc: i win
[05:38] <luxgeek> Found it myself...but it shouldn't be as buried...no big...thx
[05:38] <xut_jc> bbrandon: i guess we just demonstrated how quick and easy that was!
[05:38] <xut_jc> <rolls eyes>
[05:38] <bbrandon> xut_jc: oh yeah!
[05:38] <cajunlady> wunnle, with the original apple firmware you'd actually need a special package like gnupod to sync the ipod, having it simply be visble to the system won't make it sync
[05:40] <wunnle> cajunlady, huh? why do i need a special package when i don't want to mount iPod at all?
[05:40] <xut_jc> Because that's the sort of shit you have to deal with when you but an closed proprietry mp3 player such as the aforementioned.
[05:40] <cajunlady> wunnle, you'd need it if you were wanting to sync, but since you don't want it to sync, your ipod is safe
[05:40] <xut_jc> buy
[05:41] <M11X> help: I'm getting a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[05:42] <kjeet> why dosent cat /dev/input/*anoything that mentions or is symlinked to mouse* work?
[05:42] <dageriv> i gonna bring a live linux cd to the store. what should i check for to make sure ubuntu will run correctly?
[05:42] <wunnle> cajunlady, my problem is not "sync or not-sync" i simply want to, sudo ubuntu !automount iPod
[05:43] <cajunlady> wunnle, why do you care if it automounts if you won't be syncing files anyways?
[05:44] <wunnle> cajunlady, every time i connect iPod there pops up a window and it's annoying
[05:45] <wunnle> cajunlady, i connect my iPod for charging btw, i'm not trying to make a paradox here :P
[05:46] <phlak_user> wunnle: you could use pmount to ensure it does not mount at all (if thats the requirement)
[05:46] <wunnle> phlak_user, WOHOO
[05:46] <wunnle> phlak_user, can you show me how? this is my second day on ubuntu.
[05:47] <phlak_user> !pmount | wunnle
[05:47] <phlak_user> !info pmount | wunnle
[05:48] <phlak_user> wunnle: you need to install pmount and configure it so it does not allow mounting of the ipod
[05:48] <wunnle> phlak_user, thanks, i'll try that.
[05:51] <M11X> help: I'm getting a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[05:52] <AndroidLoverInSF> which is faster in 11.10?  unity 3d or kde?
[05:53] <M11X> i heard gnome3 is undderrated
[05:56] <heyitseric> i found gnome3 to be overrated
[05:57] <rumpe1> heyitseric, i find opinions about gnome3 overrated :D
[05:57] <phlak_user> !ot | M11X heyitseric rumpe1
[05:59] <phlak_user> wunnle: heres an easier way to do that -> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/09/how-to-turn-off-automount-feature-of.html
[06:00] <wolter> does the .fonts.conf work in ubuntu?
[06:01] <caesar_> has the latest distro corrected it's speed issue yet?
[06:01] <M11X> help: I'm getting a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[06:02] <tdp_01> My board broke after installing ubuntu. What can I do to avoid it?
[06:03] <Estknan> what
[06:03] <fritsch> tdp_01: not the time for jokes (8 am)
[06:04] <yanick_> Hi, I've read that it is possible to have "Gnome Classic" with Oneric (http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/08/return-to-ubuntu-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/); are there any issue with it? Because I dislike Unity so much that I do not want to upgrade.
[06:04] <victor__> hello?
[06:05] <yagoo> !gnome-session-fallback
[06:06] <pseudomorph> Anyone know if there is a mac specific ISO for 11.10 final? And if so, where I can get it?
[06:07] <oli> pseudomorph: You mean for PPC (old non-Intel macs)?
[06:07] <heyitseric> M11X: have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1602767
[06:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> chetnick: my problem is that I compiled Linux Kernel 3.0.4 on my machine.  When transfering a .avi file from my machine to a fat32 usb 2.0 flashdrive I get 1.1 speeds.  I enabled ehci to be "builtin" and then I had ohci and uhci be modules.  Is this the reason why I'm running slow transfer speeds?
[06:08] <heyitseric> pseudomorph: try this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[06:08] <pseudomorph> oli: Intel, not PPC. 64bit desktop/alternate iso's have problems booting on some intel macs. there was a mac specific beta iso, looking for the final.
[06:09] <dageriv> i gonna bring a live linux cd to the store. what should i check for to make sure ubuntu will run correctly? i can test wifi connectivity by checking if i can connect to wlans. but how can I "check" the graphics card?
[06:09] <pseudomorph> heyitseric: It's on that page. Thanks very much.
[06:09] <amh345_> im looking at configuring and learning about crons.  i see i can make the run every x sec'min/hour.  but is it possible to make it run at a specific time?
[06:10] <NotLarry> how do I resize the partition I'm running ubuntu from?
[06:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> NotLarry: fdisk or gparted
[06:11] <NotLarry> thanks, just didn't have it installed
[06:11] <heyitseric> i was just going to say gparted, look for it in ubuntu software center
[06:11] <Shirakawasuna> dageriv: run the live CD itself and test things out.
[06:11] <govorunkz> hi all
[06:12] <dageriv> Shirakawasuna: yes but lets say it boots up and everything, how can I "test" the graphics card?
[06:12] <M11X> yes, heyitseric.  thank you though.
[06:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Does anyone know how to get usb 2.0 speeds on Ubuntu when transfering avi files??
[06:13] <yanick_> is it possible to have a application bar (the bottom panel in classic) in Unity?
[06:14] <oli> yanick_: nope
[06:14] <nikhgupta> hey guys, this is off-topic, but which license allows the use and distribution of a free software but restricts selling of the software, in any form?
[06:14] <M11X> creative commons?
[06:15] <yanick_> oli, this is the main reason why I will not switch to Unity, the fact that I can't see the minimized windows without resorting to some mouse movement
[06:15] <oli> nikhgupta: Yeah there's a NC (non-commercial) Creative Commons license... There are others but that's probably the most famous
[06:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> yanick_: Gnome Classic isn't Gnome 2.32.  You won't have that many options
[06:15] <yanick_> ... or alt-tab
[06:15] <oli> yanick_: Sure and you don't have to use it (I don't)
[06:15] <nikhgupta> thanks oli
[06:15] <M11X> help: I'm getting a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[06:15] <yanick_> oli, I tried using unity, and was like a one legged and one armed man
[06:16] <oli> yanick_: So don't use it :) I agree with you.
[06:16] <yanick_> oli, but classic in Oneric is ugly
[06:16] <oli> You can fix it up fairly easily.
[06:17] <heyitseric> Us3r_Unfriendly have you tried adding pci=routeirq  to the boot options, that might help
[06:17] <oli> http://askubuntu.com/questions/58172/how-to-revert-to-gnome-classic
[06:17] <Shirakawasuna> dageriv: if it boots, what more tests do you need?
[06:17] <Shirakawasuna> dageriv: Just boot it and do all the normal things you'd expect to need to do.
[06:17] <dageriv> Shirakawasuna: wifi cinnectivity for example
[06:17] <Angablade> I've got an quite intresting question/problem. It seem that when I load Ubuntu (and only Ubuntu, not in windows) my cpu lets out a screeching noise. And it keep sup the family at night. Is there anything that can cause it? I need Ubuntu for some work.
[06:17] <dageriv> okay thanks
[06:18] <heyitseric> dageriv put a movie on a usb drive and use that to check graphics
[06:18] <Mokilok> Hi Guys, What could cause no prompt or text of any kind to appear on the screen when using the consoles from Controle + F1, F2, etc..
[06:18] <yanick_> I don't know what is the big deal of having everything look like Unity does...
[06:18] <oli> Angablade: is it a fan noise or an actual squeak from something?
[06:19] <Angablade> It's not the fan. I tested three seporate fans that I had. And it seems to be coming from around the processor.
[06:20] <phlak_user> Angablade: could it be the internal speaker?
[06:20] <Angablade> I am currently on the machine (in windows 7), and there is no sound. It only comes when Ubuntu is loading. It then stays till I power off the machine.
[06:20] <Angablade> There is no internal speaker that I know of.
[06:20] <M11X> help: I'm getting a mountall: disconnected from plymouth message when i boot. so far i've uninstalled all nvidia drivers and think the problem is with xorg.conf
[06:20] <Angablade> And if there was, why would it be by the processor?
[06:21] <phlak_user> Angablade: all motherboards have them (piezo)
[06:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> heyitseric: I've heard mixxed comments on that.  I did that when compiling Linux Kernel 3.0.4     I've also tried to "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd" and "sudo modprobe ehci_hcd", but still no dice
[06:21] <phlak_user> Angablade: thats something you need to figure out (looking at the mobo manual might help)
[06:21] <Angablade> It's a Dell E510.
[06:22] <phlak_user> Angablade: no idea dude
[06:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> And this has been a problem of Ubuntu for 4 years now.  Filing a bug report hasn't gotten anywhere
[06:22] <Angablade> I know.
[06:22] <phlak_user> Angablade: there may be an option in the BIOS to turn it off
[06:23] <Angablade> It's A07 I believe. Let me do some research.
[06:23] <heyitseric> Us3r_Unfriendly: my file transfers usually run around 26mbps
[06:23] <gulzar> I installed rkhunter. Its asking postfix configuration. What should i select? For emails I use Thunderbird.
[06:23] <phlak_user> Angablade: ok can you see if this makes it stop while in Ubuntu? sudo modprobe -r pcspkr
[06:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> mine have been at 2.0 speed then drop half way to 5.4 MBs.  Why is this??
[06:24] <arooni-mobile> does ubuntu 11.11 work well on a thinkpad t420?
[06:24] <phlak_user> Angablade: so we know for sure whether its the pc speaker or not
[06:24] <Angablade> I will check, let me reboot and tell the family that I am working on the computer again. So there will be some noise.
[06:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> heyitseric: i'm talking about over gig *.avi files
[06:24] <phlak_user> !hcl| arooni-mobile
[06:24] <phlak_user> Angablade: ok
[06:26] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:28] <sanjeevkb_1> how do I control fan speed in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[06:28] <attar> have seen countless threads on slow usb in ubuntu over the years but never a concrete explanation of why, or how to solve them :|
[06:28] <sanjeevkb_1> sensors-applet is gone
[06:28] <Mp3Man> Hi all.  Noob Ubuntu question here... Anyone around to answer one?
[06:29] <phlak_user> !anyone| Mp3Man
[06:30] <phlak_user> sanjeevkb_1: fancontrol
[06:30] <heyitseric> Mp3Man: ask your question
[06:30] <Mp3Man> Installed oneric, installed proprietary drivers for an nvidia dual head card, then i get a white screen overlaying on my second monitor??  i cant seem to get back to dual screens working correctly even by rolling back to opensource drivers??
[06:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> attar: thank you!  No fix, I've tried searching for a long time and no fix.  I've compiled my own kernel outside of the repos.  If I don't get this fixed, I'm leaving.  Sorry to say that, but I'm finally fed up.
[06:31] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, Loading configuration from /etc/fancontrol ...
[06:31] <sanjeevkb_1> Error: Can't read configuration file
[06:31] <Mp3Man> Ive tried a bunch of stuff Ive found online, but mostly its the same instructions to roll back to opensource drivers
[06:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> attar: I've seen people leave Ubuntu for lesser reasons, say unity...
[06:32] <attar> Us3r_Unfriendly: yeah, usb is pretty slow for me..i  gave up trying to fix it. sometimes it feels like  burning a dvd takes less time :P
[06:32] <Mp3Man> card is a geforce 9600gso 768mb
[06:33] <Mp3Man> kinda old, but should still work... or so i would think
[06:34] <Mp3Man> anyone had this issue or something similar?
[06:34] <chebureque> hi guys! can someone answer my question - can i install ubuntu server 11.10 without GUI?
[06:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> attar: but this shouldn't be the fix, by giving up.  Gentoo is where I'm heading next.  I like Ubuntu 10.10 and previous versions and what they have to offer in the repos.  But no "Full Speed" usb 2.0 support and Unity is turning me off
[06:35] <NlessKnight> Cheb: Most likely, yes. I'm running 10.04 in CLI mode only right now. (IRSSI for the win.)
[06:35] <Kriss_> chebureque well i should think  you could install it manually yes
[06:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> attar: ...with no answers or fixes
[06:35] <heyitseric> Mp3Man: read this see if anything in here will help http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[06:35] <Kriss_> Does anyone know of any alternatives to remastersys which lets you take a installed ubuntu with costumizing and turn it back into a distro so i can install the exact same setup on other computers ?
[06:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Kriss_: why don't you use remastersys?
[06:36] <NlessKnight> Cheb: Look at the 'alternate installer' downloads.  Those are text only, looks like. (Just looking at the website.)
[06:36] <chebureque> kriss - manually means there's no option for that in default installer?
[06:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Kriss_: it's deadware but it's still being used today
[06:37] <Kriss_> Us3d_Unfriendly I cant connect to the rep to get the software.
[06:37] <stodan> where does oneiric store user network config? (vpn specifically)
[06:37] <chebureque> nless - thx, i'll look for that
[06:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Kriss_: don't bother, i don't this it's in there
[06:37] <Kriss_> chebureque well i mean like booting up the livecd then copy over the files and all that
[06:37] <phlak_user> sanjeevkb_1: you should read the manpage for fancontrol. it states how the config file can be created.
[06:38] <Kriss_> Us3r exactly. Which is why i need somwhere to at least get the software.. Or an alternative. preferbly GUI based
[06:38] <phlak_user> stodan: if using network-manager, inside gconf
[06:38] <chebureque> kriss : sounds too difficult for me)))
[06:38] <Mp3Man> heyitseric: thanks for the link... i think ive been there beofre, but ill dig back through the page.  weird thing is that when i shut down, i can see the background img displayed for a sec... so i know the monitor is getting signal, but it overlays a complete white screen while gui is running :(
[06:38] <arooni-mobile> trying to upgrade ubuntu; but when i click update; it downloads 2 files and then i see "starting administrative" on taskbar; and then nothing happens.. help!  t420 running 11.04 trying to get to 11.10
[06:39] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, manpage for fancontrol advices against using it
[06:39] <Kriss_> chebureque you could also just install the full distro first. Then remove the parts you dont want afterwards
[06:39] <stodan> phlak_user, i think it changed, i added new connection and searched gconftool-2 --recursive-list / for it and it is not there
[06:39] <phlak_user> sanjeevkb_1: it cautions you to be careful
[06:40] <chebureque> kriss: so i can remove even gnome?
[06:40] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, basically my laptop has gotten noisier after 11.10 upgrade. How do I get it fixed.
[06:40] <sanjeevkb_1> ?
[06:40] <Kriss_> chebureque welcome to linux.. you can remove anything you dont like..
[06:40] <govorunkz> hello
[06:40] <Kriss_> just learn to use apt-get to uninstall and then yes..
[06:40] <govorunkz> ubuntu bin ?
[06:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Kriss_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/re-linux/files/ :Remastersys
[06:41] <phlak_user> sanjeevkb_1: i believe it is due to heating up of the CPU; there are some posts about it in the forums
[06:41] <Kriss_> however If its not storagespace you lack then just have it not load up gnome at all once youre done configuring
[06:41] <heyitseric> Mp3Man, have you tried system, preferences, monitors
[06:41] <chebureque> kriss: hah) that's my fifth try to understand that os)
[06:42] <Kriss_> Us3r thanks.
[06:42] <NlessKnight> Cheb: I don't actually recall having to go through and uninstall anything as far as a GUI goes when I set up this machine (CLI-only SSH gateway.) It was a few months ago, though, doing a 10.04 server install.
[06:42] <Wurmphlegm> hey all
[06:42] <caesar_> did ubuntu fix the speed issue?
[06:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Kriss_: no problem, I had someone last week ask me the same question so it was easy for me to answer you lol
[06:43] <phlak_user> stodan: using gconf-editor, i can find them under System-networking-connections
[06:43] <chebureque> Nless: what means CLI-only?)
[06:44] <Kriss_> Us3r say you wouldnt happen to know how to put icons on the desktop in 11.10 gnome classic would you?
[06:44] <NlessKnight> Cheb: CLI - Command Line Interface.
[06:44] <Angablade> And I am back.
[06:44] <heyitseric> now that the computer woke up the neighbourhood
[06:45] <Angablade> Yeah.
[06:45] <Angablade> It did nothing.
[06:45] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Kriss_: I havn't "upgrade" past 10.10.  I don't think I'll be with Ubuntu for very much longer.
[06:45] <phlak_user> Angablade: so did it work?
[06:45] <chebureque> Nless: yeah, that's what i need! you installed it from alternate cd?
[06:45] <Angablade> No changes.
[06:45] <Damier-> ssh remotecomputer cat remotefile > localfile  << does this command use scp to transfer, and can it transfer binary files?
[06:45] <stodan> phlak_user, I expected them to be there, but nothing here pre 11.10 it was always there AFAIR
[06:45] <heyitseric> Angablade,  have you tried beating the computer
[06:45] <Kriss_> Us3r well it appears that you cant rightclick the desktop and make a simple shortcut anymore.  I need firefox to be on the desktop
[06:45] <NlessKnight> Cheb: I seem to recall I just installed from the server install.  Again, it's been a while, though, so I might be a little fuzzy on the details.
[06:45] <phlak_user> stodan: I just checked; they're still there (was using gconf-editor)
[06:45] <sebsebseb> Us3r_Unfriendly: why not to 11.04?
[06:45] <s093294> I have an application that needs a shared lib mylib.so - both are located in same folder but the app dont find the .so - how can i add the mylib.so to the path where it search
[06:46] <phlak_user> Kriss_: just drag it out of launcher and put it there
[06:46] <NlessKnight> Cheb: The most GUI I have on this is... Screen. :D
[06:46] <Angablade> I have not.
[06:46] <Kriss_> Phlak cant. The moment any mousebutton clicks on firefox it launches. Even rightclick.. and even ALT + rightclcik
[06:46] <phlak_user> s093294: you could export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/library and then start the prog
[06:46] <Angablade> So for now, I will be using windows. >,<
[06:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sebsebseb: ehci to uhci transfer speeds and Unity/Gnome are my huge problems with Ubuntu right now
[06:46] <chebureque> Nless: xD
[06:47] <phlak_user> Angablade: sorry to hear that
[06:47] <s093294> phlak_user, and that dont overwrite what else in the LD_Li.. thing ?
[06:47] <Angablade> Thanks phlak_user.
[06:47] <phlak_user> Kriss_: just click and hold; it will allow you to drag :)
[06:47] <sebsebseb> Us3r_Unfriendly: well there's the Ubuntu Classic Desktop in 11.04, which is really Gnome 2, with the Ubuntu patches, but plenty of other good distros out there, if Ubuntu isn't quite what you want anymore.
[06:47] <chebureque> Nless: and what about internet browser? can you run it using CLI?
[06:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sebsebseb: classic isn't Gnome 2.32
[06:47] <phlak_user> s093294: nope the others are safe with ldconfig
[06:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sebsebseb: going to Gentoo...
[06:48] <sebsebseb> Us3r_Unfriendly: it is in 11.04,  11.10 has the Gnome 3 fallback mode instead in the repos
[06:48] <phlak_user> chebureque: lynx and w3m are text-only browsers
[06:48] <NlessKnight> Cheb: Honestly haven't tried.  I'm mostly using it as an SSH gateway (though I am also running IRSSI on it.)
[06:48] <sebsebseb> Us3r_Unfriendly: ok Gentoo nice :)
[06:48] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, trying the kernel regression workaround
[06:48] <phlak_user> sanjeevkb_1: ok
[06:48] <sanjeevkb_1> rebooting, see you soon
[06:48] <s093294> phlak_user, thanks
[06:49] <Kriss_> Phlak Thanks. Damn it was driving me insane. Now if i can just make remastersys work then im all good
[06:50] <chebureque> phlak: i don't need only text browsers) i'm developing sites, so there's a natural need to use browsers like chrome, firefox and so on
[06:50] <phlak_user> chebureque: then text-only mode is not for you
[06:50] <arooni-mobile> i cant upgrade 11.04 to 11.11; i open update manager and it prompts me to upgrade; i select yes; and then it says it is downloading an upgrade tool; and then nothing happens
[06:51] <phlak_user> arooni-mobile: try it from the commandline; you might see some messages/errors
[06:51] <NlessKnight> Cheb: Yeah.  Text only mode is just that - text only.  No bells, no whistles, and barely any CPU usage. :D
[06:51] <Jayrays> Hey... I booted ubuntu from my flash drive, and decided I didn't want to install it at the moment. Now, even after reordering my boot devices to boot from the hd and removing the flash drive, it still boots directly into ubuntu. Am I going to need to recover my windows MBR?
[06:51] <Kriss_> chebureque why would you want to only go CLI mode then ?? Especially if youre not a seasoned linux user
[06:51] <heyitseric> arooni-mobile, that happened to me also, i backed up my files and did a fresh install
[06:51] <phlak_user> Jayrays: does the windows os show up in grub?
[06:51] <arooni-mobile> heyitseric, how do you do it from the command line
[06:51] <arooni-mobile> or PHLAK rather
[06:52] <stodan> phlak_user, did you upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 or freshly installed oneiric?
[06:52] <Jayrays> Haven't checked
[06:52] <phlak_user> heyitseric: arooni-mobile you can boot from liveCD/usb and click install; there is an option to upgrade too
[06:52] <Kriss_> Windows really despises linux alot. so dont expect windows bootmanager (which you cant edit by hand anyway) to allow linux just like that
[06:52] <phlak_user> stodan: upgraded via method above
[06:52] <arooni-mobile> PHLAK, i cant do the livecd/usb thing
[06:52] <phlak_user> arooni-mobile: why
[06:52] <phlak_user> !upgrade | arooni-mobile
[06:53] <arooni-mobile> can you just give me the commnd to upgrade from command line
[06:53] <NotLarry> ok, next quesiton, how do I resize the active ubuntu partition?
[06:53] <NotLarry> google, I know:)
[06:54] <caesar_> is it better to stick with 11.04 for a while or do the 11.10 upgrade?
[06:54] <heyitseric> phlak_user, you're right i forgot about that
[06:54] <sebsebseb> caesar_: Do you want to lose Gnome 2?
[06:54] <Kriss_> caesar well if you prefer gnome classic then id say stick to 04 yet..
[06:55] <caesar_> isn't that installable?
[06:55] <Kriss_> sebsebseb too bad you cant get gnome 2 with 11.10.. that would be sweet
[06:55] <Kriss_> caesar no its not
[06:55] <Kriss_> you gotta go with gnome 3 which isnt like 2.. even in classic mode.
[06:55] <phlak_user> arooni-mobile: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[06:55] <Kriss_> im struggeling with getting 3 to look like 2.
[06:55] <sebsebseb> Kriss_: well Mint 12 will be based on Ubuntu 11.10, and provide Gnome 2.32 for example, and have a Gnome 3.2 version, and help with the mate fork,  plus there are some other distros  that will stick with Gnome 2 for ages as well
[06:56] <caesar_> whats the difference between gnome 2 and 3?
[06:56]  * phlak_user the only issue i have with 11.10 right now is the excessive fan noise
[06:56] <sebsebseb> caesar_: a lot
[06:56] <caesar_> just visual?
[06:56] <sebsebseb> caesar_: you can see some videos here  and find out a bit about it. http://gnome3.org
[06:56] <Kriss_> caesar indeed alot.. even in classic mode.. its even in the way you do things
[06:57] <sebsebseb> caesar_: nope it usees GTK 3 as well of course, it's much more than just a interface
[06:57] <denysonique__> Why does the $ service command output to STDERR?
[06:57] <chebureque> kriss: cause i'm getting mad of all that shit on my desktop) there's a lot of bugs, caused by file manager, for example, i can't normally write anything big (>1gb) on it, cause my flash always remounts during that process. and from today my system crashes 6 times at 3 hours & the only thing helps to reboot is to take away battery... all i need from linux is internet browser, lamp, skype & pidgin)
[06:57] <Kriss_> you cant just rightclick desktop and make a shortcut anymore.. the menus are pretty screwed up.. Heck there isnt even a simple icon for the menu.. its alot of work just making the toy look go away into somthing you can work with
[06:57] <sebsebseb> caesar_: anyway Ubuntu 11.10 uses Gnome 3.2, but instead of the upstream Gnome Shell interface which is in the repos, they use Unity by default
[06:57] <sebsebseb> Kriss_: gnome tweak tool  can do icons stuff I think
[06:57] <caesar_> wow gnome 3 looks sexy
[06:57] <denysonique__> Why it is impossible to do things like $ service --status-all | grep postgres
[06:58] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, so far no crashes.
[06:58] <phlak_user> sanjeevkb_1: ok
[06:58] <sebsebseb> caesar_: yeah Gnome Shell is nice, but yet Ubuntu by default went with their own inteface Unity
[06:58] <Kriss_> chebureque i see.. then id go with 10.04 LTS and uninstall stuff you dont want
[06:58] <sanjeevkb_1> let me play a game
[06:58] <Kriss_> sebsebseb it doesnt work for icons.
[06:58] <sebsebseb> caesar_: Have you seen Unity?
[06:58] <caesar_> im on 11.04 of course
[06:58] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, which normally sets off the fans.
[06:58] <caesar_> that was the first thing i removed lol
[06:59] <sebsebseb> caesar_: ah right I see :D
[06:59] <chebureque> kriss: and what about 11.10? i don't reaaly know the difference between LTS and not LTS
[06:59] <auronandace> !lts | chebureque
[06:59] <sebsebseb> !nounity | caesar_
[06:59] <Kriss_> caesar the little program which was in 11.04 that lets you change the default from unity to classic isnt there and you cant install it. so you gotta remove all the other options as they are files. lightDM doesnt let costumize alot either
[07:00] <sebsebseb> Kriss_: can use GDM instead of LightDM or XDM or KDM or slim even for exmaple
[07:00] <caesar_> looks like it's time to get used to unity then
[07:00] <Kriss_> sebsebseb yeah thats what i had to do as well
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Kriss_: however not tried LightDM in 11.10 yet, that will be in a virtual machine when I do :D, but uhmm surely there is a switch option some where
[07:01] <Kriss_> caesar unity is really nice.. if you just want to surf the web and write an email from time to time.. however if you want work done.. unity fails bigtime
[07:01] <phlak_user> Kriss_: on a laptop, I find Unity to be quite useful
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Kriss_: that's the whole point of Unity, it's aimed at non technical people, who go on the web, and that's about it
[07:01] <Kriss_> sebsebseb you can switch yeah.. if you like doing that every time you log in.. unless you like unity
[07:02] <caesar_> Kriss_:  how fo you define work
[07:02] <caesar_> im all gui.. duck at cli
[07:02] <caesar_> suck
[07:02] <Kriss_> caesar well at least for me its making linux work and having it connect to domain while also intigrating windows AD shares and such.
[07:03] <caesar_> i use cpanel
[07:03] <vignesh> Hi
[07:03] <caesar_> hosted
[07:03] <Kriss_> My work is making it possible for windows fanboys to like ubuntu.. with aprox 500-1000 users.
[07:03] <chebureque> ubottu: i understand, thx. but i don't think i need that "long term support", cause i wanna choose ubuntu server only for CLI-only mode and i think new version (11.10) is more stable (but of course i can be mistaken) )
[07:04] <vignesh> Do any of u have problems with ubuntu alt-tab switcher....
[07:04] <vignesh> ?
[07:04] <chebureque> ubottu: damn)
[07:04] <lolzer> PLZ help me .... i forgot the root password... is there a way to reset it??
[07:04] <susundberg> lolzer: many. I guess easiest is to boot with live-cd and reset the password from there by chroot
[07:04] <sebsebseb> chebureque: 10.04 is supported longer
[07:04] <sebsebseb> chebureque: that's why it's recommended to useauly go with the LTS version for server
[07:05] <kevwilde> Anyone experiencing a problem where shutting down 11.10 will bring ubuntu to the login screen and won't shut down/restart ?
[07:05] <caesar_> in that case i think i shall try 11.10.. but did they correct the speed issue yet?
[07:05] <Kriss_> yeah for server go LTS distros
[07:05] <lolzer> susundberg, do you have a link that explains this process??
[07:05] <susundberg> yeah, i googled that for you: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[07:05] <lolzer> thanks!!!
[07:05] <chebureque> sebsebseb: it's only a local server for my job purposes
[07:05] <NlessKnight> Cheb: I use 10.04 LTS desktop on my laptop and it's very stable, even running multiple virtualbox VMs.  This machine runs 10.04 server and is similarly very stable.
[07:06] <NlessKnight> Cheb: In spite of the machine I'm running it on being hilariously old.
[07:07] <KevinSjoberg> I'm running a ubuntu server in production. And having some memory issues. I've got 1024 mb of RAM but 950 mb of it is it cache. What does that mean?
[07:07] <KevinSjoberg> Because top saying I'm just using about 30% but vmstat says I'm using about 91% where a lot of it is in cache.
[07:09] <smw> KevinSjoberg, it means you have no ram problems
[07:09] <smw> KevinSjoberg, do a free -m
[07:09] <kevwilde> Anyone experiencing a problem where shutting down 11.10 will bring ubuntu to the login screen and won't shut down/restart ?
[07:09] <chebureque> Nless: i understand. looks like 10.04 server is for me, hope it will run browsers normally under the CLI-only
[07:10] <lolzer> susundberg, is there a way to stop it cause i think my brother knows this and he is reseting my password
[07:10] <NlessKnight> Cheb: It won't.
[07:10] <smw> KevinSjoberg, This line gives the best statistics -/+ buffers/cache:        863       2898
[07:10] <chebureque> Nless: won't?(
[07:10] <Kriss_> chebureque well you CAN browse using CLI but its not very pretty..
[07:10] <KevinSjoberg> smw, That line gives me -/+ buffers/cache used: 0 free: 1024
[07:11] <NlessKnight> Cheb: When I say CLI-only, I mean /only/.  Firefox, Chrome, etc are GUI-based browsers, not CLI.
[07:11] <lolzer> susundberg, this worked fine btw
[07:11] <chebureque> hm
[07:11] <smw> KevinSjoberg, that is not possible. lol
[07:11] <smw> KevinSjoberg, please pastebin the entire ouput
[07:11] <susundberg> lolzer: glad i could help!
[07:11] <Kriss_> chebureque if you want to develope websites you defenetly NOT want to view them in lynx (CLI based browser)
[07:11] <chebureque> so i should install non CLI-only, and then uninstall gnome?
[07:12] <chebureque> kriss: you're right)
[07:12] <Like_A_G6> chebureque: not to interupt but you can use text based browser lynx
[07:12] <Kriss_> chebureque if you remove gnome you wont be able to use amp either.. nor firefox or any other browser
[07:12] <smw> KevinSjoberg, ?
[07:12] <chebureque> like_a_g6: that's goes away from my job purposes)
[07:13] <KevinSjoberg> smw, Sure. Here https://gist.github.com/345611
[07:13] <Kriss_> Like_A_G6 well not if he is building websites.. as he wont be able to see any design at all
[07:13] <NlessKnight> Cheb: I'm a little perplexed, here.  If you're wanting to make websites, which are very much graphical in nature, why are you looking for a CLI solution?
[07:13] <Kriss_> chebureque just install whatever ubuntu you like to use.. Go with 10.04 if youre in doubt
[07:13] <KevinSjoberg> smw, Sorry wrong paste. Here http://pastebin.com/QxFHnpcq
[07:14] <imprint> all of a sudden tonight every time I try to go fullscreen while streaming hulu or youtube, I get adobe crash, what could be wrong? any help appreciated
[07:14] <Like_A_G6> chebureque: Kriss: only option i could think of at the moment for command line interface
[07:15] <smw> KevinSjoberg, um...those numbers don't add up
[07:15] <Kriss_> chebureque dont got all CLI if youre not used to it.. its the hardcore way to go but certainly not if youre not running a pure server
[07:15] <sanjeevkb_1> phlak_user, problem seems solved. Thanks
[07:15] <KevinSjoberg> smw, I know. Seems pretty missleading.
[07:15] <smw> KevinSjoberg, according to what you posted, you are using 0 memory
[07:15] <smw> KevinSjoberg, I don't know what to tell you
[07:16] <KevinSjoberg> smw, Yeah. It's a virtual machine does that change things?
[07:16] <Kriss_> and even then id still go regular install then simply have it just go CLI login.. that means the stuff is still there but not loaded unless i need it to
[07:16] <htmlinprgress> how do i ffix the governer on ubuntu   to get it to go faaster then 1mb ?
[07:16] <denysonique__> hmm
[07:16] <denysonique__> I switch from Gentoo to Ubuntu
[07:16] <denysonique__> and so far all I can see is that ubuntu isn't for the pros
[07:16] <smw> KevinSjoberg, it is probably the kernel confused about the VM.
[07:17] <th_> "for the pros", lul
[07:17] <smw> KevinSjoberg, I don't know enough.
[07:17] <KevinSjoberg> smw, It's okay. Thanks anyway.
[07:17] <chebureque> i get it) well, thx to everyone for support!
[07:18] <denysonique__> seriously
[07:18] <Like_A_G6> chebureque: Kriss: your onto something why can't we pull up a graphical user interface in command line mode? it's there right?
[07:18] <denysonique__> it isn't command line friendly even
[07:18] <imprint> What would all of a sudden make repeated adobe flash crash's everytime I go fullscreen?
[07:18] <JohnTeddy> I just upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04, my wireless doesn't work anymore.. and my fonts are ugly.
[07:18] <JohnTeddy> Did it remove proprietary software or something?
[07:19] <The_BROS> Where is Gnote folder placed?
[07:19] <Like_A_G6> i'm thinking overlay?
[07:20] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: Maybe the default font has changed and the anitaliasing settings are different
[07:20] <sanjeevkb_1> PHLAK, problem seems solved. Thanks
[07:20] <JohnTeddy> denysonique__: What about wireless?
[07:21] <JohnTeddy> It worked on 11.04, it doesn't work now.
[07:21] <heyitseric> The_BROS, home folder, click ctrl h, its a .gnote so its hidden
[07:22] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: Please define 'wireless does not work'
 no. I know how to see hidden folders, but there is no .gnote folder
[07:23] <Kriss_> Uhhh relinux seems to be working.. its cli based but quite simple still.
[07:23] <rogerk> Since i upgraded to Oneiric, my launcher (you know, the one that pops up when you press ctrl+f2) seems to consistently run the _previous_ command I entered. Known bug?
[07:24] <JohnTeddy> denysonique__: There is no option when I click on network manager on the panel, to 'enable wireless'
[07:24] <rogerk> Tried googling, but I might have been using the wrong terms.
[07:24] <JohnTeddy> It's like the wireless doesn't even exist.
[07:25] <denysonique__> The_BROS: if it is called .gnote, this command will find it for you: $ find $HOME -name '.gnote'
[07:25] <denysonique__> The_BROS: try also the ~/.config dir
[07:25] <denysonique__> maybe it is in there
[07:26] <denysonique__> The_BROS: alternatively you can run $ strace gnote and look for kernel calls of gnote opening the config file
 ok. Thanx. I found
 can it be syncronize with Tomboy notes?
[07:27] <The_BROS> by replacing tomboy files
[07:28] <denysonique__> The_BROS: probably the format is different, but if you can program you could write a script which does that
[07:29] <Jayrays> Sorry, I had asked a question earlier but had a connection issue... anyhow, I loaded up ubuntu livecd from a flash drive and decided I didn't want to install it at the moment, but even after I changed the boot order back and removing the flash drive it continues to boot into linux. Am I going to need to recover the windows mbr?
[07:29] <rogerk> Oh. Seems my problem with dash running the previous command might be this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/unity/+bug/856205   If I wait a little while after typing the command, then it launches is correctly.
[07:29] <heyitseric> Jayrays,  when you boot does it give you an option for ubuntu and windows
[07:30] <mynx38> Hej Thomas
[07:30] <mynx38> Jeg skal lige sikre mig, at jeg forstår sagen . den drejer sig om slide show funktionaliteten ikke? (Jeg kan ikke helt gennemskue, om den oprindeligt er indrapporteret som en specifik fejl på en page eller om den omhandler slide show).
[07:30] <junciy> hi
[07:30] <mynx38> Der skal fra min side ikke arbejdes videre på sagen (da den er oprettet af SE, må Anja vurderer behovet og beslutte om sagen skal lukkes).
[07:30] <mynx38> Dbh Henriette
[07:30] <junciy>      
[07:30] <FloodBot1> mynx38: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <Jayrays> no, it comes straight to the ubuntu livecd screen asking whether I want to try ubuntu, install it, or boot from the first hard drive.. which brings me back to ubuntu
[07:31] <JohnTeddy> denysonique__: http://pastebin.com/qyAjUXHz
[07:31] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: thanks
[07:32] <JohnTeddy> I can see the wireless chipset listed in lshw, so it's being recognized by the kernel at least as a heart beat on the pci bus
[07:32] <denysonique__> oh broadcom, hmm I often experienced problems with these wifis on ubuntu
[07:32] <JohnTeddy> Though there is no eth1 device anywhere.
[07:32] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: all you need is the appropriate kernel modul
[07:32] <JohnTeddy> right, I know Broadcom sucks, they don't cooperate, atheros is good, so is intel, etc
[07:32] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: try to search the software centre for the driver
[07:32] <JohnTeddy> denysonique__: right, but why wasn't this automatically done?
[07:32] <NlessKnight> John: What happens when you do 'iwconfig' from the command line?
[07:32] <JohnTeddy> or why did they break it?
[07:32] <JohnTeddy> It worked in 11.04
[07:32] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: they made a mistake I guess
[07:33] <JohnTeddy> lo        no wireless extensions.
[07:33] <JohnTeddy> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[07:33] <JohnTeddy> There is no eth1 listed, ifconfig eth1 up doesn't work either.
[07:33] <JohnTeddy> So it's not a policy change?
[07:33] <JohnTeddy> It's just a bug?
[07:34] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: this will probably fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309760
[07:35] <earthshade> Anyone know why dvi on my monitor is only working on ubuntu
[07:35] <earthshade> VGA works on both
[07:35] <earthshade> Dvi doesn't work in xp
[07:38] <Shogoot> Hi folks. Im installling LAMP on this computer but im hi‌g the wall on sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin  , it says it can locate the package. Anyone known to this issue?
[07:38] <heyitseric> Jayrays, click on install and see if it gives you the option to install next to windows
[07:39] <JohnTeddy> bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:39] <Shogoot> Hi folks. Im installling LAMP on this computer but im hi‌tting the wall on $ sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin  , it says it can locate the package. Anyone known to this issue?
[07:39] <JohnTeddy> I purged that package, and installed it again
[07:40] <moses> is there any literature to tell me how to run apache if ive installed it or how to see if its running in ubuntu?
[07:41] <heyitseric> Shogoot,  http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies  this might help
[07:41] <denysonique__> moses: $ service apache status
[07:41] <denysonique__> or $ service apache2 status
[07:41] <denysonique__> I am not sure what is the name of the service on Ubuntu
[07:42] <denysonique__> or maybe httpd
[07:42] <neo_> ut I am unable to install software through ubuntu software center
[07:42] <denysonique__> neo_: What happens when you try to?
[07:42] <neo_> use usb 3g stick
[07:43] <neo_> for internet
[07:43] <JohnTeddy> denysonique__: hmm, no change. Still no wireless showing.
[07:43] <neo_> demanding your wifi not connected
[07:43] <neo_> but my internet working
[07:43] <moses> not recognized
[07:43] <neo_> same with ubuntu one.
[07:43] <denysonique__> neo_: ok
[07:43] <neo_> actually I am fresher in linux
[07:43] <denysonique__> neo_: What modem/network/country it is?
[07:44] <Shogoot> s
[07:44] <heyitseric> neo_: what software are you trying to install
[07:44] <denysonique__> moses: try to install broadcom-sta-common
[07:44] <neo_> ubuntu software center
[07:44] <neo_> its ubuntu 11.1
[07:44] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: ↑ I mean
[07:45] <moses> what does that do?
[07:45] <y4h0> hey
[07:45] <moses> ok
[07:45] <moses> nvm
[07:45] <y4h0> how to move the menu buttons to the right in ubuntu 11.10
[07:45] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: and reboot when asked
[07:45] <neo_> india
[07:45] <jamesitegen> phlak_user: :( Wifi didn't connect..
[07:46] <neo_> not have wifi connection
[07:46] <denysonique__> neo_: btw, when you insert the modem, do you see a CD drive appear?
[07:46] <denysonique__> if yes, then click 'eject' in its context menu
[07:46] <neo_> no
[07:46] <denysonique__> this is what I need to do with my mbb
[07:46] <y4h0> people how to move the minimize, close buttons to the right
[07:46] <y4h0> ?
[07:47] <neo_> I download dial-up s/w through provider and install it.
[07:47] <denysonique__> yes
[07:47] <moses> I use virtual box
[07:47] <moses> anone use vbox?
[07:47] <neo_> not showing cd in drive
[07:48] <denysonique__> JohnTeddy: also you know the card model, with this information Google should solve your problem
[07:49] <heyitseric> y4h0, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13535/move-window-buttons-back-to-the-right-in-ubuntu-10.04/ try this
[07:49] <y4h0> it doesn't work
[07:49] <y4h0> heyitseric,
[07:50] <neo_> but the provider give the s/w for that
[07:50] <phlak_user> Shogoot: can you pastebin the errors?
[07:50] <neo_> and its working.
[07:50] <neo_> only those s/w not accepting...
[07:50] <JohnTeddy> http://pastebin.com/CEFMHPw8 ( my dmesg)
[07:50] <JohnTeddy> [    0.340224] pci 0000:04:00.0: PME# disabled
[07:50] <JohnTeddy> not really sure why that line is there
[07:50] <phlak_user> !info phpmyadmin
[07:50] <heyitseric> y4h0,  have you tried it through ubuntu tweak
[07:51] <y4h0> ubuntu-tweak
[07:51] <y4h0> gnome-tweak-tool ?
[07:52] <heyitseric> y4h0,  http://ubuntu-tweak.com
[07:53] <heyitseric> y4h0,  once you have installed that you can find it under window management settings
[07:55] <dardevelin> hi everyone
[07:56] <dardevelin> can anyone tell me if the universe has non-free components ?
[07:56] <dardevelin> or if quickly is / has any proprietary dependency and such
[07:56] <dardevelin> thanks in advance
[07:57]  * BluebirdShao sheet
[07:57]  * BluebirdShao lol
[07:57] <dardevelin> lol what happened ?
[07:57] <Avasz> evolution is driving me crazy, maybe i am doing something wrong. I have setup a gmail account.. and what evolution does is, it starts receiving emails from the very beginning. I would be happy if it just fetches recent emails.
[07:58] <chambo> Avasz, It's IMAP
[07:58] <phukk_yu> does anybody know a good ubuntu repository I can download a ppp dialer from without using APT or synaptic ?
[07:59] <fritsch> phukk_yu: you could donwload the deb directly and install it
[07:59] <fritsch> phukk_yu: ppp dialer, something like wvdial?
[08:00] <chambo> phukk_yu, Why not using apt?
[08:00] <phukk_yu> FRITSCH,  yes or even better KPPP
[08:00] <phukk_yu> CHAMBO  because IM connecting into the internet from a GENTOO live dvd
[08:01] <chambo> Oooh :)
[08:01] <phukk_yu> my ubuntu distro does not have a dialer
[08:01] <fritsch> phukk_yu: kppp has much more dependencies
[08:01] <phukk_yu> so I cant connect to internet
[08:01] <fritsch> phukk_yu: why not using apt?
[08:01] <fritsch> phukk_yu: is it adsl connection?
[08:01] <fritsch> phukk_yu: or modem?
[08:01] <locodir-user> what will be  the user and domain and passsword for 8 step in installing opensrf 2.0.1
[08:02] <fritsch> phukk_yu: if adsl - everything should be already installed (pppoeconf)
[08:02] <locodir-user> ejabberdctl register <user> <domain> <password> for this
[08:02] <phukk_yu> no it is not adsl
[08:02] <phukk_yu> FRITSCH  because IM connecting into the internet from a GENTOO live dvd
[08:02] <phukk_yu> just regular vanilla dial up
[08:02] <osmosis_paul> Somebody know how to install new themes in ubuntu 11.10???
[08:02] <phlak_user> phukk_yu: would this help -> http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
[08:03] <osmosis_paul> in them apperance only have 4 options
[08:03] <phukk_yu> FRITSCH  its just a regular usb external dial up modem
[08:03] <fritsch> phukk_yu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wvdial
[08:03] <osmosis_paul> and i cannot update just windows or fonts and old ubuntu versions
[08:03] <fritsch> phukk_yu: you need all dependencies
[08:03] <phukk_yu> thank you FRITSCH Phlak and chambo
[08:03] <fritsch> phukk_yu: ah btw. if you are online from the dvd, just chroot into ubuntu
[08:03] <phukk_yu> I will check those out
[08:03] <darshan__> ejabberdctl register <user> <domain> <password> what will be user and password and domain for this
[08:03] <fritsch> phukk_yu: and run apt-get update
[08:03] <celltech> How do I get out of this annoying unity? I can't take this anymore
[08:03] <fritsch> phukk_yu: should work :-)
[08:03] <chambo> phukk_yu, Doesn't GENTOO have some kind of package manager similar to apt?
[08:04] <phukk_yu> FRITSCH IM using a Gentoo live dvd not a ubuntu based live dvd
[08:04] <chambo> emerge or somethign like that
[08:04] <fritsch> phukk_yu: no problem at all
[08:04] <madduck> why in the world does the installer ask me whether i want to encrypt my home directory after I told it to use encrypted LVM?
[08:04] <fritsch> phukk_yu: just try it, before messing with packages
[08:04] <madduck> also, what sort of home-encryption is this? libpam-based?
[08:04] <phukk_yu> hey thank you again for helping me  :)
[08:05] <chambo> celltech, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell.  Unfortuately gnome-shell is pretty similar to unity but probably worse
[08:05] <phukk_yu> @Chambo   Gentoo uses Portage for package management... very different animal than synaptic
[08:06] <celltech> I think I'm just gonna get a new harddrive. put 11.04 back on it and leave it at that :)
[08:07] <JohnTeddy> strange, if I just click on 'additional drivers' in ubuntu, then click activate.. it works
[08:07] <JohnTeddy> I don't know why it would deactive my wireless
[08:07] <chambo> phukk_yu, I know you have the build everythign you install in gentoo, but if you search portage for software e.g. wvdial, wont it find and download dependencies for you to install?
[08:07] <JohnTeddy> Perhaps I need to agree to the license again from Broadcom
[08:07] <JohnTeddy> who knows
[08:07] <JohnTeddy> It doesn't even prompt me or anything
[08:07] <celltech> Suggestions. Aurora or FF? I wanna get out of chrome and chromium
[08:08] <chambo> celltech, I'd go with chromium
[08:08] <fritsch> chambo: from what i read he is online from gentoo live dvd, wanting some programs for his ubuntu, which is somewhere else on this computer
[08:08] <phukk_yu> @CHAMBO yes it would do it from source but see I want to install ubuntu on my hard drive and ubuntu disk dont have dialer ppp in it by default
[08:08] <Whiskey> Are it impossible to run XRDP over SSL=?
[08:08] <celltech> I want out of chromium. I don't like it
[08:08] <chambo> Oooooh
[08:08] <phukk_yu> FRISCH  yes that is correct
[08:08] <chambo> Sorry phukk_yu I totally misunderstood
[08:08] <fritsch> phukk_yu: just chroot in you ubuntu environment
[08:08] <phukk_yu> its ok chambo
[08:08] <fritsch> phukk_yu: it will use the default route
[08:09] <celltech> eh. I'll just try both aurora and ff 7
[08:09] <phukk_yu> ok I will go try that   thanks you guys!!  :)
[08:09] <Whiskey> i guss it is then
[08:12] <MeQuerSat> can someone help tell me what settings to set in /etc/fstab so I can read/write/execute on /dev/sda3 ?
[08:12] <darkfears> Can someone help me please, I switched to Ubuntu studio and do not like the gnome desktop, I would rather use unity which worked better for my work environment. How can I switch to unity without losing any studio specific functionality
[08:12] <MeQuerSat> I have these options atm: defaults,gid=46
[08:12] <MeQuerSat> (46 is plugdev, which Im already added to)
[08:13] <moses> what port does apache sent data over?
[08:14] <darkfears> anyone? :(
[08:15] <iceroot> moses: 80, 443
[08:15] <moses> iceroot, ever done port forwording in vbox?
[08:16] <iceroot> moses: #vbox
[08:16] <moses> everyone is dead
[08:16] <sandra__> darkfears: what's your question
[08:16] <darkfears> apparently
[08:17] <iceroot> moses: then have a look at the manual about bridge-networking
[08:17] <iceroot> moses: just use bridge instead of nat and your apache can be accesses from the network (rest should be #vbox)
[08:17] <moses> iceroot, i cant bridge or it kicks me off the network
[08:21] <sspiff> hi, I want to restart the display manager, but there is no GDM init script or service any more. how do I restart the display manager?
[08:24] <hje841> how do I make the Caps Lock Key behave as Alt Gr?
[08:24] <dfletcher> anyone else seen xorg fail immediately after 11.04 or 11.10 installation? Dies with "no screens found". I had to get that nvidia driver .run file from nvidia (from a windows box with a browser), run it and go through all the steps, restart. Not that it's particularly hard but I bet if a newbie hit that they would give up instantly :(
[08:25] <moses> what ports does apache listen to?
[08:25] <hje841> moses: 80
[08:25] <VxQe> sspiff, if you're using 11.10, it uses a new DM called light dm. You can restart with sudo stop lightdm and sudo start lightdm
[08:25] <hje841> standard HTTP port
[08:27] <dabukalam> Which package controls tab-completion for apt in the command line?
[08:28] <sspiff> VxQe: alright, thanks
[08:29] <geirha> dabukalam: bash-completion
[08:29] <dabukalam> geirha, sweet thanks
[08:30] <dabukalam> geirha, does it require a restart?
[08:32] <geirha> dabukalam: No, just opening a new terminal should do
[08:32] <dabukalam> i'm in a tty
[08:32] <hje841> geirha: thats the same. restart of terminal
[08:32] <geirha> dabukalam: Then logging out and back in again should do
[08:32] <geirha> dabukalam: Or just start a new interactive bash shell by running bash
[08:33] <qqwer> running "openbox" in terminal says: "Openbox is already running in screen 0."
[08:33] <qqwer> But I'm seeing gnome ??
[08:33] <dabukalam> geirha, worked. thanks. can ubottu check package names for me?
[08:33] <netxshare> can someone help me with a problem?
[08:33] <geirha> dabukalam: What do you mean?
[08:33] <sspiff> qqwer: you're not running Gnome/Openbox are you?
[08:33] <qqwer> sspiff: i am
[08:33] <dabukalam> !package traceroute
[08:34] <sspiff> qqwer: then you see gnome with openbox as the wm part?
[08:34] <netxshare> FATAL: Module lirc_i2c not found.
[08:34] <ari_> test
[08:34] <netxshare> I am using 11.04 livecd
[08:34] <netxshare> lirc is installed
[08:34] <netxshare> I am also using lirc 0.9.0
[08:34] <geirha> dabukalam: You can search for packages at package.ubuntu.com, or with the apt-cache command  apt-cache search 'pattern'
[08:34] <oCean> dabukalam: use /msg ubottu !info packagename
[08:35] <qqwer> sspiff: no, i only see gnome... and i currently only have 1 "screen"
[08:35] <geirha> dabukalam: Sorry, packages.ubuntu.com (packages in plural)
[08:35] <qqwer> in screen panel*
[08:35] <qqwer> workspace*
[08:35] <dabukalam> !package
[08:35] <ShishKabab> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server Edition 10.04 in a VM (in order to test deployment of an application on a system similar to that of our customer). I chose US/American as keyboard layout. Now it's asking me for my full name, but the keyboard does not respond as I want. V somehow goes to the next controll (continue) and B returns to the text field. Why is this happening?
[08:37] <dabukalam> is there anything lighter than ubuntu-desktop available on apt, such as lubuntu or xubuntu, since I can't find those packages there :/
[08:38] <sandra__> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[08:38] <SunTsu> dabukalam: xubuntu-desktop?
[08:38] <sandra__> I trust you are all doing well
[08:38] <dabukalam> dabukalam, it's not there!
[08:38] <dabukalam> SunTsu, it's not there!
[08:39] <SunTsu> dabukalam: then your sources are damages, because I did install that yesterday
[08:40] <qqwer> Anyone can help?? I can only see Gnome when I run "Openbox/Gnome"-session
[08:40] <sspiff> qqwer: that's what's supposed to happen isn't it? what were you expecting?
[08:40] <geirha> ShishKabab: Sounds like the VM software is doing something weird with the keyboard input.
[08:41] <sspiff> openbox is only a window manager - this means it handles stuff like drawing borders around windows and what happens when you alt-tab etc
[08:41] <sspiff> the wallpaper, panels, system tray, whatever, are not provided by openbox
[08:42] <wfu42> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[08:42] <qqwer> hm... okay. didn't know that because in Debian-Crunchbang it's fully ran with Openbox
[08:42] <ShishKabab> geirha: It's just VirtualBox. I've installed Windows XP, Backtrack, Debian 4/5/6, and Ubuntu desktop 8.10 in the past without any problems.
[08:42] <qqwer> sspiff: and which window manager is used in standard session "gnome" ?
[08:43] <fritsch> qqwer: metacity
[08:43] <geirha> ShishKabab: Well, based on your explanation, it's acting as if Alt is downpressed.
[08:43] <qqwer> fritsch: okay, thanks
[08:43] <sspiff> ugh, I can't get my fonts to render at a useable size outside of unity/gnome
[08:44] <geirha> ShishKabab: Does the tab key work?
[08:44] <sspiff> my fonts are way to big in gtk apps, any idea how this can be fixed (I'm not using unity or gnome though)
[08:45] <ShishKabab> geirha: Yes, Shift+Tab and arrow keys also.
[08:46] <dabukalam> where can i find a list of gpg keys for the whole ubuntu source list?
[08:46] <ShishKabab> geirha: If the Alt key is pressed, I could switch to another terminal by pressing Shift+F1 right?
[08:48] <wfu4422> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[08:48] <fritsch> wfu4422: X does work? cause driver is installed by default
[08:48] <raven> how to export a packed list from synaptic/software center to install theese on another system?
[08:48] <dabukalam> I've added a bunch of ubuntu universe/multiverse to my sources.list but I need to import the keys
[08:48] <dabukalam> where can I find them?
[08:49] <dabukalam> !gpg
[08:49] <dabukalam> !apt
[08:50] <ShishKabab> geirha: I think I'll just restart the installation and hope something changes, Windows style ;)
[08:51] <wfu42> i can only see 1 of the 4 displays, the other 3 are off. and they are not recognized in multi monitor setup
[08:51] <wfu42> drivers from matrox will not install. the version of x is too new and driver rejects the install
[08:51] <wfu42> modified mga drivers have been released, but i cant get them to work either
[08:52] <wfu42> they install, but the system will show no change, OR it will not boot x on restart.
[08:52] <fritsch> wfu4422: okay, cannot really help
[08:59] <Name141> Is Wubi a pretty "fair" way to "Dual Boot" with windows, without messing with the partitions ?
[09:00] <ShishKabab> geirha: It worked! Thanks for your time.
[09:00] <cuci_> hi guys! I have a forwarded port, and I setup my router so that all incomming request for it will be routed to my computer, where I have a site running on that port. But when I type the external IP:port in the addres bar of a browser nothing happens
[09:00] <cuci_> what am I missing?
[09:01] <raven> how to export a packed list from synaptic/software center to install theese on another system?
[09:02] <Scenick> cuci> How did You forwarded the port? Try to setup rinetd for better results.
[09:03] <moses> is there any simple readme to learn the simple linux commands for ubuntu?
[09:03] <cuci_> Scenick: with virtual servers from my router
[09:05] <stevecam> i wanna create an ubuntu cloud server, where would i start?
[09:06] <Scenick> cuci> is Your firewall disabled?
[09:11] <phaidros> lo
[09:12] <phaidros> trying to (re)install rkhunter on my ludid server I get dpkg errors. dpkg --debug=2 doesnt help to see the real problem.
[09:12] <phaidros> dpkg states: Setting up rkhunter (1.3.8-7) ...
[09:12] <phaidros> dpkg: error processing rkhunter (--install): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:12] <phaidros> Errors were encountered while processing: rkhunter
[09:12] <phaidros> so, how do I get to see what in the --install subprocess fails?
[09:13] <phaidros> eh, never seen #ubuntu that quiet? anybody home?!
[09:13] <wfu4422> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[09:15] <csyncope> i'm using lubuntu (lxde) and when i log in it doesn't give me the "custom user environment" option or whatever it's called that is in gdm, i tried adding an entry using Exec="$HOME/.xsession" but it just gives an error
[09:16] <rigved> csyncope: have you tried asking in #lubuntu?
[09:16] <csyncope> yes nobody answered, not really the time of day
[09:17] <rigved> csyncope: looks the same here.
[09:17] <rigved> csyncope: try asking again after some time, if possible.
[09:19] <[Prototype]> hi
[09:19] <[Prototype]> Anyone on?
[09:19] <[Prototype]> I've got a question
[09:20] <mond777> hallo
[09:20] <rigved> [Prototype]: ask and if anyone knows, they will try to help.
[09:21] <[Prototype]> I know that is better a clean installation of the OS, but I want to know if I could do an upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to Ubuntu 9.04 if I have the 9.04 CD
[09:21] <mond777> kennt sich hier jemand mit ubuntu+matlab+fortran+neue hardware aus?
[09:21] <ahhughez> How can I determine if this bluetooth dongle is working as a bluetooth 1.0 or 2.0 dongle? Seems to only let me connect one device... after that it wont even scan/find the 2nd device.
[09:22] <mond777> i've got a problem with running fortran in matlab, can anyone help?
[09:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> [Prototype] possible - yes - but I'd backup and start from scratch to 11.04 or 11.10
[09:25] <wfu42> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[09:25] <[Prototype]> RaTTuS|BIG: I know, I know, but I'm doing some tests and one of these is this ^^
[09:25] <raven> how to export a packed list from synaptic/software center to install theese on another system?
[09:25] <iceroot> !clone | raven
[09:26] <[Prototype]> RaTTuS|BIG: How can I do the upgrade like this? ^^
[09:26] <iceroot> [Prototype]: you need the alternate-cd of 9.04
[09:26] <iceroot> !alternate | [Prototype]
[09:26] <raven> iceroot, ok tnx
[09:26] <iceroot> [Prototype]: also please remove the [ from your nick, its not nice on qwertz-layouts
[09:27] <[Prototype]> iceroot: Ok
[09:27] <iceroot> Prototype: thank you
[09:27] <Prototype> iceroot: And when I have the alternate CD, what I have to do?
[09:27] <Prototype> no problem
[09:28] <MaSSaSLaYeR> what is the utility called in ubuntu when you press prt scrn i want it in Lubuntu 2 :)
[09:28] <iceroot> !upgrade | Prototype
[09:28] <phlak_user> MaSSaSLaYeR: screenshot tool?
[09:28] <Prototype> Thank you very much
[09:28] <iceroot> Prototype: normally you just insert the alternate-disc in your running system an the system is asking about the upgrade
[09:29] <iceroot> Prototype: but also have a look at the links from ubottu
[09:29] <popey> MaSSaSLaYeR: gnome-screenshot
[09:29] <MaSSaSLaYeR> phlak_user when you do standard install ubuntu and you press prt scrn an utility pops up and asks you to save it
[09:29] <Prototype> Ok, I'll see it
[09:29] <popey> MaSSaSLaYeR: thats the name of the package you need to install
[09:30] <MaSSaSLaYeR> popey, thanks that's it
[09:30] <MaSSaSLaYeR> is it possible in lubuntu to enable keyring on login without typing password?
[09:30] <MaSSaSLaYeR> because i don't have the keymanager
[09:31] <stimpie> update-alternatives contains no entry for java7 on 11.10, anyone knows how to add it?
[09:32] <histo>  
[09:32] <iceroot> MaSSaSLaYeR: seahorse is the keymanager in lubuntu
[09:32] <histo> stimpie: if you install java7 it should automatically be the default
[09:32] <MaSSaSLaYeR> iceroot, thanks & popey  thanks :)
[09:32] <histo> stimpie: via deb that is
[09:33] <stimpie> histo, I have  removed and  installed openjdk-7-jre but only java6 is in the alternatives list
[09:34] <MaSSaSLaYeR> popey, i have installed it how do i bind it to the prnt scrn button?
[09:35] <wfu42> i need help with MGA drivers and a matrox g450 quad card on 11.04
[09:35] <histo> stimpie: where did you get jdk7?
[09:36] <stimpie> histo, just the normal repository
[09:36] <histo> stimpie: that's odd I would assume then that the scripts would be there for update-alternatives then
[09:36] <histo> !info update-java
[09:37] <histo> stimpie: what was the package name you installed?
[09:37] <stimpie> histo, openjdk-7-jdk  and openjdk-7-jre both where removed and reinstalled several times
[09:38] <erle-> when will there be a more recent fglrx driver in the repo?
[09:38] <stimpie> histo, during package removal I see the message: update-alternatives: removing manually selected alternative - switching policytool to auto mode
[09:40] <histo> stimpie: do you have /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7......
[09:40] <histo> stimpie: and how many alternatives are listed in sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:41] <histo> stimpie: also after you install it run java -version and see if it outputs 1.7.0
[09:41] <stimpie> histo, lib jvm contains java-7-openjdk-amd64  and a symlink to that directory java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64
[09:42] <histo> stimpie: you could add it to the alternatives list manually if you wanted.
[09:42] <stimpie> update-alternatives has 2 entries. one for java6 openjdk and one for java6 sun
[09:43] <histo> stimpie: I would select openjdk and check your version
[09:43] <stimpie> histo, yes this might be a good time to figure out how to manually  add something to alternatives
[09:43] <histo> stimpie: since that's what you are installing openjdk7
[09:44] <histo> stimpie: install your package then sudo update-alternatives --config java   and select openjdk  then java -version
[09:44] <seeg> hello
[09:44] <seeg> i want to reinstall some package, the same version, without removing it
[09:45] <seeg> but apt-get install <package> won't let me
[09:45] <histo> seeg: sudo apt-get reinstall packagename
[09:45] <seeg> ah, ok, thanks ;)
[09:45] <seeg> histo, nope, this seems to be an older version of ubuntu, no reinstall option
[09:45] <histo> seeg: sry sudo aptitude reinstall packagename I think you need --reinstall or something with apt-get you can search man apt-get and see
[09:46] <seeg> ah, ok, --reinstall works :)
[09:46] <stimpie> histo,the 2 installed java alternatives are both 6, I will try adding it manually.
[09:47] <histo> stimpie: okay to add manually sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /path/to/new/version/java 3
[09:48] <darshann> while performing 9.1 step of opensrf 2.0.1 installation,i am receving an error "opensrf is not in sudoers file,this incident will be reported"
[09:49] <histo> darshann: becuase eht script you are using is trying to use sudo with out priveledges
[09:49] <darshann> so wat shuold i do now
[09:49] <histo> darshann: contact whomever wrote the script or install whatever you are trying from a supported source like the repos
[09:49] <TehDGM> where do those reports end up?
[09:49] <TehDGM> about the sudo stuff
[09:50] <darshann> i was using sudo nano /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml
[09:50] <the-m0bster> hello everybody
[09:50] <the-m0bster> i need help regarding my internet connection
[09:50] <maxime_> !fr
[09:51] <iceroot> TehDGM: /var/log/auth.log  and normally a mail for root
[09:51] <histo> darshann: what is openils and where did you get it
[09:51] <iceroot> TehDGM: hm dont know if the mail is default but it goes into the auth.log
[09:51] <the-m0bster> my internet disconnects automatically and it fails to connect until i dont restart my system
[09:51] <darshann> its an directory
[09:52] <darshann> inside an user name opensrf
[09:52] <darshann> as like as opensrf/openils
[09:52] <histo> darshann: okay where did opensrf come from and what howto are you following
[09:52] <the-m0bster> i need help regarding my internet connection
[09:52] <histo> the-m0bster: does it ever stay connected?
[09:52] <the-m0bster> it used to until last night
[09:52] <VictorCL> when is ubuntu 12 coming up¿
[09:53] <the-m0bster> and works flawlessly on windows 7
[09:53] <histo> !release > VictorCL
[09:53] <Thomas111> GAY LORDEN
[09:53] <histo> the-m0bster: did you install any update?
[09:53] <TehDGM> iceroot: thanks
[09:54] <the-m0bster> no
[09:54] <histo> the-m0bster: what type of connection do you have it's kind of hard to troubleshoot interwebs broke
[09:54] <histo> !ask | the-m0bster
[09:54] <oCean> Thomas111: behave
[09:55] <darshann> inside an user name opensrf,there is an directory,as cd /openils
[09:55] <Thomas111> `WELCOME TO SAINT TROPEZ
[09:55] <oCean> Thomas111: stop it now
[09:55] <histo> darshann: I still dont' know what package you are trying to install or where you got it from
and i am performing sudo nano /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml
[09:55] <histo> darshann: if it's not from software sources you probably aren't going to get help with it.
[09:56] <Cheater> hoofd
[09:56] <Thomas111> DANNY
[09:57] <the-m0bster> i have a wired broadband connection connected thorugh bridge mode. it used to work fine until last night. i have tried it on windows 7 (dual boot) and i have no problem. when i log onto ubuntu, the internet seems fine but after i leave it to idle ~1hr and return back i see that it is disconnected and fails to detect any network
[09:59] <darshann> i am switch to user named opensrf,inside it der is a directory name openils ,inside it der is directory ,conf,and inside it der is a file opensrf_core.xml and i am using "sudo nano /openils/conf/opensrf_core.xml " command to edit dat file ,but recieving an error name "opensrf is not in sudoers file .this incident will be reported"
[09:59] <rigved> the-m0bster: and if you leave it alone for an hour on win 7, does the bridged broadband connection still work?
[10:00] <the-m0bster> yes. it works
[10:00] <histo> darshann: because the user opensrf doesnt' have access to sudo
[10:00] <redcell989> I am trying to figure out why my unity desktop now only gives me 2 UI theme choices after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10: High Contrast and High Contrast Inverted
[10:00] <rigved> darshann: that is because opensrf does not have administrator priviledges
[10:00] <histo> darshann: you need to add opensrf to the sudo group
how?
[10:02] <moh_> how are you
[10:02] <moh_> how are you
[10:02] <moh_> hi what is up
[10:02] <oCean> moh_: this is ubuntu technical support, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[10:03] <CasW> I'm writing a program, and I want to use words from /usr/share/dict, but there is also a README in there; are there more files I should exclude?
[10:03] <histo> darshann: as an administrator sudo usermod -a -G sudo opensrf
[10:03] <sunit> how can I create a log file for any application running in ubuntu ?
[10:03] <redcell989> anyone can answer...? please? :)
[10:04] <histo> darshann: or in a debian based system you can      sudo adduser opensrf sudo
[10:04] <histo> sunit: what application?
[10:05] <kevin_> i have gnu character map installed. And it is not displaying many charcters how to install those fonts?
[10:05] <sunit> histo: java application
[10:05] <histo> sunit: I guess you could pipe the output of the application to a text file and use logrotate to manage the file length etc..
[10:05] <sunit> histo: shall I use log4J ?
[10:06] <histo> sunit: Is this an app you are writing?
[10:06] <zagrev> is keyboard repeat working ok in ubuntu 11.10?
[10:07] <sunit> histo: how can I pipe ? please describe
[10:07] <CasW> With the pipeline character |
[10:07] <m1h0> hi
[10:08] <m1h0> how can i add packages to ubuntu installation
[10:08] <CasW> (So it's [program name] | [other program which uses the output of the first program as input])
[10:08] <oCean> !software | m1h0
[10:09] <m1h0> oCean, i want to add packages to the installer
[10:09] <bonhoffer> if i am getting error adding listener addr=/tmp/sockets/foo.sock, can i just touch this file or is a socket something special?
[10:09] <m1h0> not manage packages
[10:11] <oCean> m1h0: not sure what you mean
[10:11] <redcell989> can someone answer a question about a unity desktop problem pleaseeee
[10:11] <m1h0> add packages to the default ubuntu installer
[10:11] <markskilbeck> redcell989: sure - unity SUCKS
[10:12] <redcell989> thanks markskilbeck thats very nice
[10:12] <markskilbeck> :)
[10:12] <redcell989> lol
[10:12] <biblioteka> hi everyone
[10:12] <SunTsu> redcell989: nobody can answer a question you didn't ask
[10:12] <oCean> m1h0: you want to remaster the installation CD ?
[10:12] <y4h0> oCean, yeah
[10:13] <oCean> !remaster | y4h0
[10:20] <Bularthip> Hello all! I'd need some advice with a graphical bugging with gnome. Anyone available  to halp?
[10:20] <redcell989>  I am trying to figure out why my unity desktop now only gives me 2 UI theme choices after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10: High Contrast and High Contrast Inverted
[10:20] <redcell989> please someone help
[10:21] <kkb110> is  it safe to delete /var ?
[10:21] <jpds> kkb110: No.
[10:21] <biblioteka__> adolf hitler
[10:21] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[10:21] <jpds> biblioteka__: No.
[10:21] <biblioteka__> is a live
[10:22] <kamilnadeem> LINKSWORDS you there?
[10:22] <kkb110> jpds, but according to the explanation I've read "This directory contains variable data that changes constantly when the system is running."
[10:22] <kkb110> sounds like something similar to /tmp
[10:22] <SunTsu> kkb110: which is inaccurate
[10:22] <jpds> kkb110: You probably still don't want to trach it.
[10:22] <kkb110> ok
[10:22] <purvesh> J #drupal-in
[10:23] <SunTsu> kkb110: it contains stuff you need in order to run your system, like "vital stuff"
[10:23] <kkb110> Then another Q: if the folder is that important, should I back it up ? (I'm backing up /etc and /home now)
[10:24] <Bularthip> Someone familiar with somehow major graphics bugs with the new gnome?
[10:25] <_-XPERT-_> Hi
[10:25] <bazhang> Bularthip, have a bug link?
[10:25] <kkb110>  the point is, I wonder if "/var" has some 'configuration' which cannot be restored by just reinstalling linux
[10:25] <SunTsu> kkb110: depends on your philosphy: if you want to backup everything so you can bring up your box again instantly: yes. If not you should backup part of it.
[10:25] <chandru_in> Is it possible to get the contents of a partition encrypted with crypsetup on Ubuntu from Windows?
[10:25] <Bularthip> Well I haven't created any official bug reports yet, if you mean that bazhang.
[10:25] <SunTsu> kkb110: crontabs for instance, or mails
[10:25] <biblioteka> adolf hitler is a live
[10:26] <kkb110> SunTsu, oh ok thanks
[10:26] <bazhang> biblioteka, wrong channel
[10:26] <SunTsu> biblioteka: wrong english
[10:26] <biblioteka> i know
[10:26] <kr4n3> lol
[10:26] <SunTsu> at least now he knows the exit he was unable to find himself
[10:26] <stwange> kkb110, any important data that can change regularly is supposed to live under there. Prime examples are website data, apache configuration, databases, emails, email setups
[10:27] <stwange> ignore me about the apache config and email setups, those live in /etc, the rest applies though
[10:27] <kkb110> stwange, sounds like somewhat important, thanks for the information
[10:27] <Er0x> hello, im trying to boot ubuntu 11.10 live cd but here is no video output. using amd A6 APU with integrated graphics
[10:28] <stwange> no problem kkb110. As for backing it up, it's probably a good idea, but restoring it over the top of a new system (unless you restore everything) may break things. Much better to have a backup you can selectively restore from
[10:28] <kkb110> ok got it
[10:30] <Narc> Hello everyone. Anyone else using empathy on Oneiric having trouble with the MSN protocol ? It's been a day, I don't know if that's just me, Microsoft or empathy.
[10:30] <abhijain> I m on ubuntu 10.10 and the problem facing with firefox scrolling its again and again giving me error stop java script. Even again and again it freezed when I open more then 2 tabs
[10:30] <Bularthip> Hmm.. it's getting really weird lol
[10:31] <abhijain> Bularthip: can you solve this issue or not
[10:31] <Bularthip> abhijain, I can't help you, sorry :/ I was talking about my own issue :F
[10:32] <harry_138> In ubuntu 11.10 Syanotic manager is not install by default....:(
[10:32] <abhijain> harry_138: sudo apt get update
[10:33] <harry_138> yes but the thing is that it not as good as 11.04, i was expecting something good this time fro ubuntu
[10:34] <abhijain> harry_138: wait then till december for next apha release
[10:35] <stwange> Narc, #amsn will probably know more, they're constantly working with the protocol
[10:35] <stwange> join/part flood by a floodbot. How novel.
[10:35] <harry_138> abhijain:its a beta release ???
[10:35] <Er0x> how to get integrated video working on AMD A6 3650 and 11.10 live CD?
[10:35] <karol2> hi
[10:36] <Er0x> monitor turns off after kernel is booted ;/
[10:36] <karol2> how off unity?
[10:36] <Narc> stwange: Good idea, I'll check with them. I suspect it's Microsoft fiddling with the protocols again, but I wanted more user experience before asking the devs. It seems not many people are using it here, all I get is silence or scorn :)
[10:37] <dr_willis> Er0x: what does it do when you boot the live cd now!
[10:37] <dr_willis> ?
[10:37] <harry_138> abhijaan:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[10:37] <Narc> stwange: Thanks
[10:37] <harry_138> its a final release
[10:37] <dr_willis> !notunity
[10:37] <Er0x> dr_willis: show boot menu if i select run/install after kernel is loaded monitor turns off.
[10:38] <Zermanno> #join #ubuntu-it
[10:38] <dr_willis> Er0x: try the nomodeset option yet?
[10:38] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[10:38] <Er0x> dr_willis: let me try it
[10:38] <abhijain> harry_138: I am telling abt next upcomming version not abt latest release
[10:39] <dr_willis> i think thats the option. ;)
[10:39] <abhijain> dr_willis: firfox sucks in ubuntu 10.10 any solution
[10:39] <harry_138> abhijaan: i thought u  r in a ubutu activity team or what....its okay
[10:39] <kaz2057> hay guy
[10:39] <kaz2057> i need for an help
[10:40] <dr_willis> abhijain:  try other browsers locgically...
[10:40] <kaz2057> you know how can I activate a driver (STA) by terminal
[10:40] <abhijain> dr_willis: why other I want to use ff only
[10:40] <dr_willis> kaz2057:  sudo modprobe modulename
[10:40] <kaz2057> I have not the hardware activation window because I m using backtrack distro
[10:41] <dr_willis> abhijain:  you asked...
[10:41] <kaz2057> tahsnk
[10:41] <abhijain> dr_willis: how can I upgrade new version
[10:41] <kaz2057> anybody try to install bcm wireless card?
[10:41] <dr_willis> i us chrime 99% of the time nowadays
[10:41] <kaz2057> I make : sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[10:41] <dr_willis> chrome
[10:41] <kaz2057> but sudo modprobe wl tell me that it don't found WL module
[10:42] <dr_willis> !ff
[10:42] <kr4n3> I like Chrome a lot
[10:42] <dr_willis> ource is not the midule (ackage i would think.
[10:43] <dr_willis> source is not binary.
[10:43] <MrFizzbin> arg....
[10:43] <MrFizzbin> Greetings and salutations..
[10:44] <MrFizzbin> You there Dr.?
[10:44] <dr_willis> fir about 5 mire min.
[10:44] <ericP> just upgraded to 11.10 and the desktop changed from having retractable bars at the bottom and top to having a mac-like permanent bar on the left (also application menus are mac-like in that they modal)
[10:45] <MrFizzbin> pretty much the same thing... got this app installed.. I'm going to need help with a problem I have..
[10:45] <ericP> how do i switch to the olde skool interface?
[10:45] <MrFizzbin> but will take a bit of time and explaining
[10:45] <jpds> ericP: You can't.
[10:45] <bazhang> !notunity > ericP
[10:45] <jrib> ericP: what version did you upgrade from?
[10:46] <ericP> 11.4, but iirc, i had to beat something like unity into submission when i migrated to that
[10:46] <MrFizzbin> has anyone have any experience in installing and running AutoDockTools?
[10:47] <ericP> bazhang, "!notunity > ericP" didn't hand me a privmsg. i guess some bot has some info for me?
[10:47] <jrib> ericP: right unity was default on 11.04 as well.  See ubottu's message.  If you prefer the classic gnome2 interface, I would recommend using xfce
[10:47] <dr_willis> ericP: sounds like you are using unity to me.
[10:47] <dr_willis> bit is lagged
[10:47] <ericP> jrib, xfce, roger that. thanks a million
[10:47] <bazhang> ericP, ubottu seems to be MIA
[10:48] <MrFizzbin> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and Linux ... I get the following error msg in Terminal when I run the application: " IndexError: list index out of range"
[10:48] <ericP> ubottu, where's my dose of wisdom?
[10:48] <maria_5259> cineva serios pe aici?
[10:48] <bazhang> !notunity | ericP
[10:48] <jrib> ericP: ubottu would have informed you that you can install the gnome-panel package and get a new option at the login screen that's like what you are used to.  However, I hear the panel has some limitations.  Give that and xfce a try and use what you prefer
[10:49] <ericP> !notunity | ericP
[10:49] <MrFizzbin> It's like looking at partial instructions in a language you do not know.
[10:50] <ericP> (worked -- looks like bazhang's last attempt was too soon after ubottu arrived. race condition?)
[10:50] <MrFizzbin> Umm.... anyone know of a program called AutoDockTools?
[10:51] <bazhang> Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.  ericP
[10:52] <auronandace> MrFizzbin: what does it do?
[10:52] <MrFizzbin> well, this has been helpfull..I'll check in later when I'l have a bit more time tonight.
[10:53] <MrFizzbin> :AutoDockTools, or ADT, is the free GUI for AutoDock developed by the same laboratory that develops AutoDock. You can use it to set up, run and analyze AutoDock dockings and isocontour AutoGrid affinity maps, as well as compute molecular surfaces, display secondary structure ribbons, compute hydrogen-bonds, and do many more useful things."
[10:53] <dcx> whats a good antivirus???
[10:54] <auronandace> MrFizzbin: sounds similar to autocad
[10:54] <MrFizzbin> It's an app my GF needs.. This is all for her.. not me..Lol
[10:54] <bazhang> !av | dcx
[10:54] <auronandace> MrFizzbin: is it a windows app?
[10:55] <MrFizzbin> I managed to install it I think.. It loads to 100% , but then I get an error msg in the Terminal.
[10:55] <MrFizzbin> No, It's a Linux app... 64 bit.
[10:55] <redcell989> I am trying to figure out why my unity desktop now only gives me 2 UI theme choices after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10: High Contrast and High Contrast Inverted. Can anyone help please
[10:55] <Er0x> dr_willis: thx, i got it running w/o X
[10:55] <MrFizzbin> Man, if they had a 64 bit version for windows...
[10:56] <MrFizzbin> The last line in the Terminal says: "IndexError: list index out of range
[10:56] <MrFizzbin> hit enter to continue"
[10:56] <lolmaus> Hi. I would like to install a package that requires Python lower version than i've got. Please help me resolve this.
[10:56] <MrFizzbin> Any Idea what that might mean?
[10:56] <popey> lolmaus: what package and where did it come from?
[10:57] <auronandace> MrFizzbin: what happens when you press enter?
[10:57] <lolmaus> popey, its from a user-made repo, both for Debian and Ubuntu.
[10:57] <airtonix> i have a intel i17 sandy bridge 2600k, running ubuntu 11.04, randomly the screen startings rapidly display fullscreen colours (at this point the computer stops responding to keyboard and it disappears from the local network)
[10:57] <MrFizzbin> The terminal closes.. and so does the load screen for the app...It efectively just shuts down.
[10:58] <lolmaus> popey, this one: http://docs.overviewer.org/en/latest/installing/#debian-ubuntu
[10:58] <MrFizzbin> I'm unning the latest version of Ubuntu by the way.
[10:58] <popey> lolmaus: hah, i use minecraft overviewer :D
[10:58] <auronandace> MrFizzbin: odd, if they have a website try searching their forums
[10:58] <airtonix> MrFizzbin: that error looks suspiciously like a Python exception
[10:58] <lolmaus> popey, yay! Please help me get one too.
[10:58] <popey> lolmaus: i dont bother building it or installing deb, I just check it out of git
[10:59] <lolmaus> popey, ah
[10:59] <popey> lolmaus: http://docs.overviewer.org/en/latest/building/
[10:59] <MrFizzbin> I'm trying hard, believe me, to learn as much as I can of Linux in general, and Ubuntu in particular..but...
[10:59] <MrFizzbin> I'm on the verge of sending my brain matter against the wall here...
[10:59] <MrFizzbin> This is as close as I have gotten to getting it to run in the last 2 weeks...
[11:00] <auronandace> MrFizzbin: how did you install it?
[11:00] <airtonix> MrFizzbin: try not to use the enter key as punctuation.
[11:00] <MrFizzbin> It was a manual Install..there was no package for it...
[11:00] <MrFizzbin> I installed through Terminal commands..
[11:00] <heizmann> Hi all... just a little problem, well, I try to connect my laptop in an AP (wifi, encrypt. WEP), in command line...
[11:01] <MrFizzbin> umm..enter key as punctuation?
[11:01] <bazhang> heizmann, using what command exactly
[11:01] <bazhang> MrFizzbin, please dont hit enter every two three words
[11:01] <heizmann> http://pastebin.com/kUB6Jkyh and http://pastebin.com/U4W1zNwD : some commands...
[11:01] <heizmann> bazhang just looking for my 2 pastebins :)
[11:02] <MrFizzbin> um, I am not..just once to send the line I am typing
[11:02] <bazhang> heizmann, connecting to a hidden AP?
[11:02] <heizmann> Chipset : iwl3945 ok (loaded)
[11:02] <heizmann> bazhang : no, not hidden AP
[11:02] <bazhang> MrFizzbin, you are, its very very hard to read. Please stop
[11:03] <bazhang> heizmann, and ifconfig / iwconfig shows the AP as associated?
[11:03] <MrFizzbin> Seriously, and with all due respect, I am not
[11:03] <wh1zz0> Hello guys.... Please it there a way to make the colour of my PCname and host box (i.e wh1zz0@ubuntu-box:~$) to be different from the normal colour. I changed the color of the termina to black and green as I can see better on black backgrounds but sometimes I get lost because it's all the same color. So is there a way I can make the hostname stand out, be bold or a different colour or something?
[11:03] <heizmann> bazhang well, I guess it is the problem: AP is not associated... how to do?
[11:03] <actarus> hello peolple, sorry somebody knows how I can stop akonadi server for ever?
[11:04] <bazhang> heizmann, checked the wifi wiki instructions yet?
[11:04] <bazhang> !wifi
[11:04] <MrFizzbin> how can input to the forum other than hitting the "Enter" key at the end?
[11:04] <heizmann> wh1zz0: just modify PS1 in ~/.bashrc ;) (find some examples in google)
[11:04] <MrFizzbin> Well, I have to go to work. We can pick this up later I guess.
[11:05] <jrib> wh1zz0: google "bash color prompt".  You want to modify the value of your PS1 variable in your ~/.bashrc
[11:05] <heizmann> bazhang : yes...
[11:05] <wh1zz0> heizmann: and jrib >>> owh.. Okie let me try
[11:05] <heizmann> bazhang: curiously, it works fine with Network-Manager... I don't understand...
[11:06] <heizmann> ubottu; thanks
[11:06] <actarus> akonadi doesn't work, how I can remove it?
[11:07] <redcell989> I am having a problem with unity only allowing me to choose between high contrast and high contrast inverted, can anyone help please
[11:08] <heizmann> bazhang I think I try again with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo ^^
[11:08] <heizmann> bye :)
[11:17] <shareholder> is there a way to activate full disk encryption without using alternate installer?
[11:28] <aymaro> how do i change kernel for PAE one
[11:29] <bazhang> aymaro, install linux-generic-pae
[11:29] <aymaro> bazhang, ok
[11:30] <Beaupedia> Hey guys, new to Ubuntu, ran it from the CD for a bit but looking to dual boot now. When I go through the setup it's only seeing my smaller, secondary hard drive, not my main drive. Any ideas?
[11:30] <kay_> hey guys, cant play videos from my external harddrive which is connected to my router and is accessible via WIFI. whats wrong ?
[11:31] <paulus68> Good afternoon all
[11:32] <Beaupedia> Really hoping I can figure this out.
[11:33] <raven> firefox: how to repair/update the certificate authority database?
[11:33] <Beaupedia> Any ideas why I am only seeng one of my two hard drives when I am going through the Ubunutu install?
[11:34] <paulus68> Beaupedia: is the second drive correctly connected to the motherboard?
[11:34] <Beaupedia> It's my main hard drive, it's where Win 7 is installed
[11:34] <Beaupedia> I have a 1TB that has Windows on it, and my old, smaller HDD is the only one the Ubuntu install is seeing
[11:36] <paulus68> Beaupedia: how is it formatted ntfs fat?
[11:36] <Beaupedia> NTFS
[11:37] <Beaupedia> The Ubuntu setup sees it if I do the "Something Else" option
[11:37] <paulus68> Beaupedia: try sudo lshw>lshw.txt
[11:37] <Beaupedia> But not if I do the option to install alongside Windows
[11:37] <Beaupedia> I don't know what that is
[11:38] <raven> firefox: how to repair/update the certificate authority database?
[11:38] <ahhughez> I forgot how I can get /etc/fstab to remount my new drive without a reboot, how?
[11:38] <Fleck> mount -a
[11:38] <Fleck> as root...
[11:39] <buntuu> hello, I installed gnome 3 shell and now when I try to run terminal it just frezes
[11:39] <ahhughez> perfect, thanks Fleck and the mount e.t.c. worked too :)
[11:39] <Bularthip> Does someone use Conky_orange conkyrc from gnome-look.org?
[11:39] <paulus68> Beaupedia: just execute this it's a command that allows you to see what hardware is running on your pc
[11:40] <buntuu> how can I fix terminal?
[11:40] <Beaupedia> Apparently I know just enough to get into trouble. I assume I do that in the command prompt?
[11:41]  * phlak_user just discovered that his CPU runs cool with Gnome3 ; with Unity, the fan was always on
[11:41] <mang0> The web service join.me, is there a linux equivalent?
[11:41] <paulus68> Beaupedia: you do this in the terminal of ubuntu
[11:41] <mang0> buntuu: What's wrong with terminal?
[11:41] <buntuu> when I open it its freezes
[11:41] <buntuu> even dont show up
[11:42] <Beaupedia> So I should run Ubunutu off the CD? I'm in windows now, I reboot onto the CD and attempt the install
[11:42] <buntuu> I guess it happend after I installed gnome 3
[11:42] <phlak_user> buntuu: are you not on 11.10?
[11:42] <paulus68> Beaupedia: No, you can use the live cd to get into ubuntu and then you check if you can see the second harddrive
[11:42] <buntuu> yes
[11:42] <buntuu> Im on 11.10
[11:43] <phlak_user> buntuu: gnome3 is default; what did you install?
[11:43] <Beaupedia> k
[11:43] <buntuu> uh - will search for that comand
[11:43] <paulus68> Beaupedia: with the command sudo lshw>lshw.txt
[11:44] <Beaupedia> Can I try this in the in windows install?
[11:44] <Beaupedia> Or do I need to reboot into it
[11:44] <paulus68> Beaupedia: you need to do this is in Ubuntu
[11:45] <Beaupedia> Alright, well then, I'll be back I guess. Thanks for the info, I'll see if it shows up. This is driving me nuts
[11:45] <paulus68> Beaupedia: goodluck
[11:47] <buntuu> Oh, I cant find it anymore
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> buntuu: type ctrl-alt t
[11:51] <buntuu> when I type ctr+alt+t
[11:51] <buntuu> its like transparent image over all screen, I can move betveen apz only by alt+tab
[11:51] <Onlinef> Hi, i have a problem with some pc that use ubuntu 9.10. Sometimes them stops on boot, I found the pc on shell, as root, with runlevel unknown. The system restart only if I make an fsck
[11:52] <Onlinef> How could I manage the "runlevel unknown" ???
[11:54] <|Slacker|> when will people realize flash sucks? it keeps crashing in my oneiric :(
[11:54] <Felix_9000> +1
[11:56] <rubo> can i get cloaked?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> |Slacker|: thank you for sharing your opinion
[11:57] <bazhang> rubo, check in #freenode
[11:57] <raven> firefox: how to repair/update the certificate authority database?
[11:59] <Kriss_> any admins of some sorts here ? i got a hot link for you (very useful)
[11:59] <cutegirl>  helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:00] <cutegirl>  can any one chat
[12:00] <cutegirl>  hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:00] <stimpie> cutegirl, I assume 1675 users minus some bots can
[12:00] <bazhang> !ot | cutegirl
[12:01] <cutegirl>  stimpie
[12:01] <cutegirl> r u there
[12:01] <bazhang> cutegirl, ubuntu support question?
[12:01] <Felix_9000> lol
[12:01] <wunnle> hey
[12:02] <wunnle> anyone using smplayer?
[12:02] <bazhang> wunnle, installed from where
[12:02] <Beaupedia> Alright, made it
[12:02] <Beaupedia> Now if I can remember who I was speaking to
[12:02] <cutegirl>  hi to wunnle,beaupedia,bazhang,felix,urupica,rubo,neptu
[12:03] <wunnle> bazhang, erm, i'm not sure actually.
[12:03] <smw> cutegirl, stop trolling
[12:03] <cutegirl>  can i ask UESTION
[12:03] <bazhang> cutegirl, wrong place for that; #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[12:03] <Rockj> any official ppa for the sun java jdk in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:03] <bazhang> wunnle, PPA then
[12:03] <iceroot> Rockj: no
[12:03] <wunnle> bazhang, what is PPA?
[12:04] <scarleo> !anyone | wunnle
[12:04] <iceroot> Rockj: there is no legal ppa anymore containg sun/oracle java. its not allowed anymore to distribut java
[12:04] <bazhang> wunnle, unsupported third party repo
[12:04] <Beaupedia> Attempting to install Ubuntu alongside Win 7, but the install is only seeing my secondary, smaller hard drive, not seeing my main hard drive
[12:04] <cutegirl>  i have ubuntu 10.04
[12:04] <cutegirl>  what i do.........
[12:04] <iceroot> Rockj: please try to use instead openjdk, because its FREE SOFTWARE
[12:04] <bazhang> cutegirl, and whats the support question
[12:04] <wunnle> bazhang, oh
[12:04] <Beaupedia> Someone had me do sudo lshw>lshw.txt, now what
[12:04] <bazhang> wunnle, contact the PPA maintainer
[12:05] <Rockj> iceroot: id like to, but the ****** who made the bank integration which uses java applets and crap, doesn't work well with openjdk
[12:05] <cutegirl> How  to install nokia PC suite
[12:05] <VictorCL> my mails are not going out with PHP  .. how can I check
[12:05] <Rockj> iceroot: also my dev. env. only officially supports the sun jdk
[12:05] <iceroot> Rockj: :(
[12:05] <bazhang> cutegirl, with wine perhaps, check the appdb
[12:05] <iceroot> Rockj: downloading from oracle directly is the only allowed option
[12:05] <bazhang> cutegirl, /join #winehq for help with that
[12:05] <cutegirl>  appdb??????????//
[12:05] <bazhang> !appdb | cutegirl
[12:06] <Rockj> iceroot: anyone made a script who makes it a .deb package then?
[12:06] <smw> cutegirl, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1026
[12:06] <smw> cutegirl, according to that it does not work in wine
[12:06] <jo_> Hi. I have problems installing the cairo gem since I upgraded to ubuntu 11. Not sure if its the right channel here. The problem  is that PKGConfig.have_package('cairo') fails. Any Ideas?
[12:06] <iceroot> Rockj: its not allowed to make a package of it
[12:06] <Beaupedia> Attempting to install Ubuntu alongside Win 7, but the install is only seeing my secondary, smaller hard drive, not seeing my main hard drive
[12:07] <cutegirl>  i wine???????????/
[12:07] <bazhang> cutegirl, apparently it does NOT work with wine
[12:08] <Beaupedia> Any clues?
[12:08] <VictorCL> any onw knows what this means on /var/spool/mail/root    ---> pam_succeed_if(sshd:auth): error retrieving information about user design : 1 time(s)
[12:08]  * smw thinks cutegirl is a troll and wonders how long until she gives up or gets kicked
[12:08] <VictorCL> and like that many
[12:08] <Felix_9000> lmao i wine
[12:09] <fritsch> smw: a troll that wants nokia pc suite *G*
[12:09] <Beaupedia> Ok, one more time
[12:09] <smw> fritsch, G?
[12:09] <Beaupedia> Trying to install Ubunutu, but the installer only sees one of my two HDDs
[12:09] <Beaupedia> Any ideas?
[12:09] <bazhang> Beaupedia, patience please
[12:09] <_Pete_> Beaupedia: is it connected somehow differently than the other drive which ubuntu installer sees?
[12:09] <perlsyntax> Has anyone use jde emacs on ubuntu before?
[12:09] <cutegirl> no  smw please dont do dis
[12:09] <Beaupedia> No _Pete_
[12:10] <Beaupedia> When I boot into Ubuntu from the CD, it sees the drive just fine under Devices
[12:10] <perlsyntax> ?
[12:10] <Beaupedia> But in the install, it only has the second drive in the drop down
[12:10] <perlsyntax> Does anyone use jde with emacs on ubuntu 10.10
[12:11] <_Pete_> Beaupedia: ok havent actually used the installer in a while so dont know more
[12:11] <atdprhs> hi
[12:12] <cutegirl>  wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:12] <cutegirl> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:12] <bazhang> cutegirl, please dont
[12:12] <Beaupedia> wow
[12:12] <cutegirl> no please help me
[12:12] <cutegirl>  please help me
[12:12] <atdprhs> I have HP Pavillion DV6 i7 Core, And I wanna intall ubuntu beside the pre-installed windows 7, so I shrinked the partition C into 2 partitions
[12:12] <bazhang> cutegirl, check the links given
[12:12] <bazhang> cutegirl, then /join #winehq
[12:12] <atdprhs> then I restarted to the installation, and I still see them in there as one partition
[12:13] <cutegirl>  i chekd that
[12:13] <cutegirl>  bt it could not workd
[12:13] <bazhang> cutegirl, and it says the nokia PC suite does NOT work
[12:13] <cutegirl>  then what i do with my phone
[12:14] <atdprhs> Is there anyway for me to see the two other drives a lone? not all as one partition to ubuntu?
[12:14] <arghx> atdprhs: shrinking just gives you some free space. not 2 partitions
[12:14] <Beaupedia> Ok, so I just started the installer. It says "The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: /dev/sda Do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing? If you leave them mounted, you will not be able to create, delete, or resize partitions on these disks, but you may be able to install to existing partitions there." No or Yes? Will this put my existing Win 7
[12:14] <Beaupedia> install or files at risk?
[12:14] <cutegirl>  UBUNTU is not a smart OS
[12:14] <arghx> and free space is what you need to install ubuntu
[12:15] <atdprhs> arghx, ok, what do I do? (There is no option that is install beside windows
[12:15] <bazhang> cutegirl, then no need for support here
[12:15] <cutegirl>  Really its so borring with UBUNTU
[12:15] <arghx> Beaupedia: resizing will put your windows at risk, yes. unmounting as suggested here will not
[12:15] <bazhang> cutegirl, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat NOT here
[12:15] <arghx> atdprhs: give us the current layout. sudo fdisk -l
[12:15] <Beaupedia> Ok, thanks
[12:15] <Andy80> anyone is experiencing problems with Dropbox and Oneiric Nautilus integration? I cannot see the dropbox icon anymore... there is not the "Dropbox" contextual menu on each file ecc...
[12:16] <Myrtti> cutegirl: Ubuntu has not made promises that Nokia PC Suite would work on it, and neither did Nokia promise their software would work on Ubuntu. Depending on a phone model you may be able to get some parts working without PC Suite, but it's possibly offtopic with this channel.
[12:16] <popey> Andy80: working fine here
[12:16] <arghx> cutegirl: what do you want to do with your nokia phone exactly? your phone can work as mass storage device for example and you can access it that way under linux
[12:16] <atdprhs> -lokayz
[12:17] <arghx> Beaupedia: beofre you install ubuntu, make a backup of your windows
[12:17] <atdprhs> pastebin.com/6aANhnms
[12:17] <Felix_9000> its a troll
[12:17] <Felix_9000> dont bother
[12:17] <cutegirl>  bye
[12:17] <Beaupedia> So I'm in the "Install Ubuntu along side Windows 7" window and still it only sees my smaller, secondary HDD, does not see my main HDD
[12:17] <cutegirl>  thanks for poor support
[12:17] <Beaupedia> lol
[12:18] <atdprhs> arghx, pastebin.com/6aANhnms
[12:18] <YankDownUnder> I reckon we should all be fired for giving really bad support. OH WAIT, we're all voluntary! My bad!
[12:18] <Myrtti> moving on
[12:18] <Andy80> popey: maybe I should re-install it?
[12:18] <arghx> atdprhs: empty for me
[12:18] <popey> *shrug* Andy80
[12:18] <atdprhs> pastebin.com/6aANhnmS
[12:19] <arghx> atdprhs: what part of "empty" didn't you understand?
[12:19] <Beaupedia> Works for me
[12:19] <atdprhs> arghx, I through that I typed it wrong, I understand it smarty :-)
[12:19] <atdprhs> hence, I'm using another laptop
[12:19] <arghx> then you help him. good luck
[12:19] <atdprhs> for here
[12:19] <Bularthip> In unity, is it possible to add Show Desktop button somewhere so I don't have to minimize all windows when I want get back to my desktop?
[12:20] <Pessimist> Is there a way to enable video acceleration on totem?
[12:20] <atdprhs> arghx, will you help me?
[12:20] <atdprhs> anyone can help me?
[12:20] <Pessimist> Is there a way to enable video acceleration on totem with newest fglrx?
[12:21] <atdprhs> Beaupedia, can you help me out?
[12:21] <pravin> can some body help me in compiling kernel 2.6.35
[12:21] <mikey> hey@
[12:21] <cutegirl>    http://www.sexocean.com
[12:21] <cutegirl>    http://www.sexocean.com
[12:21] <cutegirl>    http://www.sexocean.com
[12:21] <FloodBot1> cutegirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <Beaupedia> No, sorry. I am about as much of a newbie as it gets
[12:21] <mikey> How do you all do?
[12:21] <parapan> yo fellows thicky problem .....my laptop keybord went crazzy .....I have small letters when CAPS LOCK is ON and capital letters when CAPS LOCK is OFF ...how do I revert that ???
[12:21] <atdprhs> arghx, still can't view it?
[12:22] <pravin> hi
[12:22] <darshann> no config file found at /root/.srfsh.xml
[12:22] <Pessimist> Is there a way to enable video acceleration on totem with newest fglrx? It is really bad now. :/
[12:22] <darshann> why is this coming
[12:23] <pravin> hi any on e there
[12:23] <atdprhs> anyone can help me install ubuntu on a partition that I have created specially for it without damaging my preinstalled windows, while ubuntu installer still sees the two seperated partitions as one partition?
[12:24] <pravin> y u r going for that install ubuntu virtually on wondows
[12:24] <darshann> no config file found at /root/.srfsh.xml
[12:24] <Beaupedia> I think you get the least helpful answer award pravin
[12:24] <atdprhs> anyone can help me install ubuntu on a partition that I have created specially for it without damaging my preinstalled windows, while ubuntu installer still sees the two seperated partitions as one partition?
[12:24] <pravin> tx..
[12:25] <pravin> now please somebody help me in kernel compile
[12:25] <atdprhs> anyone can help me install ubuntu on a partition that I have created specially for it without damaging my preinstalled windows, while ubuntu installer still sees the two seperated partitions as one partition?
[12:25] <iceroot> !kernel | pravin
[12:25] <pravin> nop
[12:25] <pravin> i m compiling kernel for mipsel based system
[12:26] <arghx> pravin: since you are unable to state your problem, first learn how to ask for help on the internet before you are trying kernel compiles
[12:26] <pravin> n version is 2.6.35
[12:26] <arghx> pravin: and how is this mipsel system related to ubuntu? ther is no ubuntu for mipsel, is there?
[12:26] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, there ain't no big secrets, during install you only have to show ubuntu which is the correct partition to install
[12:26] <pravin> m getting an error make[1]: *** [arch/mips/alchemy/devboards/platform.o] Error 1
[12:26] <atdprhs> But it doesn't read the partitions correctly
[12:26] <pravin> nop i am crosscompiling kernel and host is ubuntu
[12:26] <arghx> pravin: that is NOT the error you get. you get another error, before that
[12:27] <atdprhs> |Slacker|, please check the website I will send
[12:27] <pravin> wait
[12:27] <atdprhs> pastebin.com/6aANhnmS
[12:27] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, okies
[12:27] <pravin> i past that
[12:27] <iceroot> pravin: irc.oftc.net  with #kernelnewbies  for general kernel-questions
[12:27] <pravin> include/linux/mtd/map.h:128:2: #warning "No CONFIG_MTD_MAP_BANK_WIDTH_xx selected. No NOR chip support can work"
[12:27] <iceroot> pravin: there is no ubuntu for your architecture
[12:27] <atdprhs> I switched back to windows and I'll try deleting the two partitions that he stil reads them with drive C also as one partition in ubuntu installer
[12:28] <arghx> pravin: you need to learn what a warning is and what an error is. with such fundamental problems you shouldn't try to compile kernels
[12:28] <iceroot> atdprhs: ##windows
[12:28] <atdprhs> iceroot??
[12:28] <iceroot> atdprhs: if you want to delete partitions from windows
[12:28] <iceroot> atdprhs: from inside windows
[12:28] <Damier-> ssh remotecomputer cat remotefile > localfile  << does this command use scp to transfer, and can it transfer binary files?
[12:28] <pravin> but i hv compiled the kernel 2.6.28 from same machin only thing is that sourse code is provided by RMI
[12:28] <atdprhs> ahh, I know how to do that, I have another problem with ubuntu installer itself
[12:29] <pravin> n 2.6.35 i hv downloaded from mips web
[12:29] <iceroot> pravin: what is your ubuntu-related question?
[12:29] <critique> çäàðîâà ëþäè
[12:29] <critique> Õ))
[12:29] <iceroot> pravin: you have an issue with a package which is in the ubuntu-repos?
[12:30] <Beaupedia> Attempting to install Ubuntu alongside Win 7, but the install is only seeing my secondary, smaller hard drive, not seeing my main hard drive
[12:30] <pravin> i dont hav actually but i m compiling kernel from ubuntu host
[12:30] <atdprhs> Slacker, any idea?
[12:30] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, but dude, did you format the partitions accordingly?
[12:30] <iceroot> pravin: and?
[12:30] <critique> íè÷åãî íå ïîíèìàþ ïî àíãëèéñêè
[12:30] <iceroot> pravin: that is not ubuntu-releated
[12:30] <Myrtti> !ru | critique
[12:30] <pravin> can u please give me info
[12:30] <iceroot> pravin: i am also not asking here SAP questions because i am using my browser which is running in ubuntu for using SAP
[12:30] <Andy80> popey: ok, a simple reinstall was enough #DropBox :)
[12:31] <atdprhs> yes
[12:31] <iceroot> pravin: try the channel/server i told you
[12:31] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, which fs?
[12:31] <atdprhs> I deleted them now from Windows, and I'll restart to the installer and hope he can see them
[12:31] <HackNewton> hello
[12:31] <atdprhs> which fs?
[12:31] <atdprhs> fs?
[12:31] <|Slacker|> file system
[12:31] <atdprhs> ntfs
[12:32] <|Slacker|> that's your problem then
[12:32] <atdprhs> now, they are deleted, they are not given any file system at the moment
[12:32] <pravin> which channel server?
[12:32] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, so I guess installer will see them as free space
[12:32] <TehDGM> filesystem
[12:32] <Bularthip> Anyone using Unity and available to help with a quick guestion about Show Desktop button?
[12:32] <TehDGM> holy lagspike
[12:32] <atdprhs> which fs is suitable for installer to read??
[12:32] <RamtinA> hi!i can't access to my account with gwibber!(in ubuntu 11.10)Twitter authorize my account but it dosen't happend anything . and when i go to accounts there isn't anything.(i haven't this problem in ubuntu 11.04
[12:33] <HackNewton> Bularthip, ask your question
[12:33] <iceroot> pravin: irc.oftc.net  with #kernelnewbies  for general kernel-questions
[12:33] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, free space (no fs)
[12:33] <Beaupedia> Attempting to install Ubuntu alongside Win 7, but the install is only seeing my secondary, smaller hard drive, not seeing my main hard drive
[12:33] <|Slacker|> crap....brb
[12:33] <Beaupedia> However when I go into Ubuntu from the CD, it sees the drive there
[12:33] <SimonJai> hey guys, if I upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 via the Update Manager, will my old software work? Like XBMC and ZFS on Linux?
[12:33] <Beaupedia> Under Devices
[12:33] <Bularthip> Well I'd like to know if there is such thing as Show Desktop button so I don't always have to minimize all windows to get to the desktop
[12:33] <atdprhs> okayz, they are deleted now, and there is no fs, let me check the installer and see if it will read them
[12:33] <iceroot> Beaupedia: does the bios see the main-drive?
[12:33] <Beaupedia> Yes
[12:34] <Beaupedia> The only thing that doesn't is the "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7" option through the installer. It has a drop down to choose other drives, but the other one is not in it
[12:34] <iceroot> SimonJai: zfs like the filesystem?
[12:34] <SimonJai> yes
[12:34] <HackNewton> Beaupedia, use ctrl +d it works
[12:34] <pravin> thank you
[12:34] <SimonJai> the OpenSolaris file system
[12:34] <alex-> How can I customize gnome-panels?
[12:34] <iceroot> SimonJai: xmbc is running with 11.10 for zfs i dont know
[12:35] <iceroot> SimonJai: is there a special reason why you need to update?
[12:35] <SimonJai> just want the newest
[12:35] <SimonJai> but not really :P
[12:35] <HackNewton> Beaupedia, if it does not work use windowkey + d
[12:35] <pravin> also i hv 1 more question
[12:35] <iceroot> SimonJai: never touch a running system
[12:35] <Beaupedia> Why do I feel feel like that's bad information
[12:35] <SimonJai> I can see the Oneiric dist for ZFS, but not for XBMC
[12:35] <iceroot> SimonJai: xbmc is only in ppas
[12:35] <pravin> i m trying 2 upgrade ubuntu 2 11.10
[12:35] <robin0800> alex-, yes use alt click
[12:36] <SimonJai> when i update, will it attempt to dwnload from the new dist folder or what...
[12:36] <atdprhs> Slacker, why on that laptop it doesn't read it as this one, when I shrinked into 2 partitions and opened the installer from this laptop, it works perfect other than the other HP that I'm trying to make it work
[12:36] <RamtinA> what should i do to fix it?
[12:36] <pravin> but getting error
[12:36] <iceroot> SimonJai: even for 11.04 there was nothing official in the repos
[12:36] <alex-> robin0800: i can't remove the bar with alt click
[12:36] <Bularthip> Beaupedia, HackNewton probably ment is comment for me, and for him, super-D does not work for me :o
[12:36] <SimonJai> iceroot: yeah... I'm using Maverick for XBMC
[12:36] <iceroot> SimonJai: 11.04 i am using with xmbx (ppa-based)
[12:36] <robin0800> alex-, which bar?
[12:36] <pravin> third party libs disabled
[12:36] <iceroot> SimonJai: should be a problem to use it with 11.10 but if there is not really a need of the upgrade...
[12:37] <HackNewton> oh Beaupedia dorry
[12:37] <HackNewton> sorry
[12:37] <alex-> robin0800: top bar of gnome-panels
[12:37] <iceroot> !enter | pravin
[12:37] <Beaupedia> Haha, no problem
[12:37] <SimonJai> iceroot: not really sure what you mean, but my repository for XBMC is ... http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/
[12:37]  * HackNewton having bad day
[12:37] <pravin> ok
[12:37] <iceroot> SimonJai: yes thats what i mean with ppa instead of official repo
[12:37] <iceroot> !ppa | SimonJai
[12:37] <Beaupedia> Attempting to install Ubuntu alongside Win 7, but the install is only seeing my secondary, smaller hard drive, not seeing my main hard drive.
[12:37] <SimonJai> ic ic, yeah I'll leave it running on 11.04 then
[12:37] <SimonJai> thanks iceroot
[12:37] <fnordistus> hi
[12:38] <iceroot> Beaupedia: can you boot-up the live-cd part?
[12:38] <fnordistus> i got a problem with m wireless analan
[12:38] <RamtinA> fnordistus: hi:D
[12:38] <Beaupedia> I'm in it now
[12:38] <Beaupedia> Yes
[12:38] <HackNewton> Beaupedia, which media you are using to install ?
[12:38] <robin0800> alex-, yes you can if you use gnome-tweak-tool but you will loose desktop functionality or see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html#more to remove completely
[12:38] <Beaupedia> Using a CD
[12:38] <fnordistus> i can't get my usb stick workin
[12:38] <pravin> " getting an error while upgrading ubuntu third party source disabled"
[12:38] <iceroot> Beaupedia: can you paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:38] <Beaupedia> iceroot: What's the preferred paste method here again?
[12:38] <alex-> robin0800: no, I will use it in combination with unity
[12:39] <iceroot> pravin: can you paste the content from /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:39] <fnordistus> its a ralink styx
[12:39] <iceroot> !paste | Beaupedia
[12:39] <pravin> ok wait
[12:39] <fnordistus> i need some professional help
[12:39] <Beaupedia> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/715075/
[12:40] <fnordistus> its a wireless N stick with 5ghz or something
[12:40] <pravin> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.10 _Maverick Meerkat_ - Release i386 (20101007)]/ maverick main restricted
[12:40] <pravin> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[12:40] <pravin> # newer versions of the distribution.
[12:40] <pravin> deb http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ natty main restricted
[12:40] <pravin> deb-src http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/ natty main restricted
[12:40] <FloodBot1> pravin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <pravin> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[12:40] <alex-> robin0800: I want to remove the top bar http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TsG_4xEYPfs/TpbrJLbqS0I/AAAAAAAAGQg/Ru7IypHMyrs/gnome3-classic.png
[12:40] <Atharva> Hi...How can I  setup my wireless modem in Kubuntu ?
[12:40] <robin0800> alex-, you can only change theme or indicators on unity panels
[12:41] <iceroot> Beaupedia: there are two drives, 1TB and 400GB
[12:41] <alex-> robin0800: this isn't a unity panel
[12:41] <atdprhs> Slacker, are you here?
[12:41] <PanArtur> fnordistus: plug in your usb then open terminal and enter dmesg and pastebin result
[12:41] <iceroot> Beaupedia: and what drive is missing?
[12:41] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Exactly, but the install doesn't see the 1TB one
[12:41] <fnordistus> ok
[12:41] <darkfears> using ubuntu studio, installed 11.10 update and now my studio desktop is replaced with unity. how can I switch back?
[12:42] <fritsch> darkfears: no chance :-)
[12:42] <atdprhs> |Slacker|, didn't read the deleted partitions still :-)
[12:42] <iceroot> Beaupedia: but its showing the 400GB?
[12:42] <robin0800> alex-, try super and alt then needed if compiz is running
[12:42] <Beaupedia> Yes iceroot
[12:42] <iceroot> Beaupedia: very strange
[12:42] <Beaupedia> iceroot: http://imagebin.org/180143
[12:42] <pravin> sorry
[12:43] <Beaupedia> If I click on the little drop down at the top, there's nothing else in the list
[12:43] <iceroot> Beaupedia: select drive
[12:43] <habanany> having problem to login ubuntu 11.10 live usb password issue
[12:43] <iceroot> Beaupedia: there should be sda (1tb) and sdb(400gb)
[12:43] <Beaupedia> I did, nothing else there
[12:43] <atdprhs> Please, anyone, can tell how to make ubuntu installer to read the empty free space partitions, not all as one partition?
[12:43] <iceroot> Beaupedia: both are internal drives on the same controller?
[12:43] <Beaupedia> I know, it's driving me nuts, it should be there
[12:43] <Beaupedia> Er
[12:43] <Beaupedia> Yes
[12:43] <Beaupedia> Both are internal
[12:44] <Beaupedia> Now the funny thing is, if I use the "Something else" option, it sees them both, but I am not sure what to choose there
[12:44] <iceroot> Beaupedia: i dont know a solution but i think its a good idea to create a bug with the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and your screenshot (also describe there that there is no sda)
[12:44] <iceroot> !bug | Beaupedia
[12:44] <iceroot> Beaupedia: sounds like a bug in the main-windows
[12:44] <fnordistus> http://pastebin.com/AsRWGU4F
[12:45] <atdprhs> anyone can tell how to make ubuntu installer to read the empty free space partitions, not all as one partition?
[12:45] <Beaupedia> Ok I will.
[12:45] <Beaupedia> iceroot: http://imagebin.org/180144
[12:45] <Guest64616> Atharva: why can't you!
[12:45] <iceroot> Beaupedia: you need the data on the 1tb drive?
[12:45] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Yes, that is where Windows and all of my data is
[12:45] <erle-> is there plans to make fglrx and radeon drivers installable in parallel?
[12:45] <|Slacker|> atdprhs, in the installer, you click advanced partitioning then what do you see?
[12:46] <erle-> because right now one screws the other up
[12:46] <iceroot> Beaupedia: and why you need the 1tb drive then in the installer menu?
[12:46] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Because I'm trying to install Ubuntu there
[12:46] <cvam> all windows, icons on the desktop and panel disappeared and only desktop screen is displayed.and then all windows icons panel appear. they all flashed from second to second. This stops only when close some applications.
[12:46] <iceroot> Beaupedia: as dualboot with windows
[12:46] <Beaupedia> The smaller drive is full
[12:46] <Beaupedia> Yes as dualbot
[12:46] <atdprhs> sda1, sda2, sda3, sda4 slacker
[12:46] <iceroot> Beaupedia: both on 1tb
[12:46] <PanArtur> fnordistus: what version of ubuntu
[12:46] <iceroot> Beaupedia: ok
[12:46] <Beaupedia> boot
[12:46] <fnordistus> natty
[12:46] <iceroot> Beaupedia: so you have to resize the partition first
[12:46] <atdprhs> wait |Slacker|
[12:47] <Beaupedia> iceroot: What am I selecting in that list of four things?
[12:47] <Beaupedia> : /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ntfs?
[12:47] <fnordistus> i got a USB one, the included wlan card is weird
[12:47] <iceroot> Beaupedia: first!! make a backup
[12:48] <atdprhs> sda1 1 MB, sda2 208 MB, sda3 416823 MB, sda4 83073 MB |Slacker|, sda4 should be 59999 MB
[12:48] <Beaupedia> iceroot: All of my important files are backed up, but in your opinion would I be better off installing on the second HDD? Can I still dualboot?
[12:48] <iceroot> Beaupedia: you can still use dualboot
[12:48] <iceroot> Beaupedia: also with sda
[12:48] <iceroot> Beaupedia: you have to resize/change /dev/sda1
[12:49] <cvam> all windows, icons on the desktop and panel disappeared and only desktop screen is displayed.and then all windows icons panel appear. they all flashed from second to second. This stops only when close some applications. sys log tells "compiz[4049] : segfault at   4 ip ... " how to fix it
[12:49] <iceroot> Beaupedia: or if you want sdb you have to do the same with resize
[12:49] <atdprhs> |Slacker|, I will install teamviewer and then let you see it yourself, ok?
[12:49] <iceroot> Beaupedia: on both drives there is no free space for a new partition
[12:49] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Is resizing going to cause me to loose data?
[12:49] <iceroot> Beaupedia: normally not
[12:50] <iceroot> Beaupedia: but when something is going wrong it can happen
[12:50] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Alright, so when I choose "Change", what is the New partition size? and then what do I choose in the "Use as:" list
[12:50] <atdprhs> |Slacker| can I PM?
[12:50] <alex-> package gnome-panel haves no installation canidate :\
[12:50] <iceroot> Beaupedia: so its always a good idea to have a backup
[12:50] <iceroot> Beaupedia: dont know what yo want to to with your ubuntu
[12:50] <iceroot> Beaupedia: and how uch space you need for your data and so on
[12:51] <Beaupedia> iceroot: It's going to be a secondary OS, I'm just getting into it. I don't need a lot of space for it.  So this is creating a new partition for only Ubuntu?
[12:51] <iceroot> Beaupedia: so you just want to see/learn ubuntu?
[12:51] <Beaupedia> Yes
[12:51] <atdprhs> iceroot, can you help me?
[12:51] <iceroot> Beaupedia: what about a virtualmachine instead first?
[12:51] <toki> a
[12:51] <iceroot> Beaupedia: instead of resizing your exisiting data
[12:51] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Well, I'd really like to dualboot, I know I definitely want it
[12:52] <iceroot> Beaupedia: ok
[12:52] <Atharva> Guest64616 : I can set it in Ubuntu..But I am unable to do it in kubuntu :( ..Is there any diffrence in ubuntu n kubuntu network manager ?
[12:52] <iceroot> Beaupedia: i think 20GB is ok for your needs
[12:52] <Beaupedia> Do I choose "NTFS" as the "Use as" option?
[12:52] <atdprhs> iceroot, can you help me?
[12:52] <iceroot> Beaupedia: so resize one of your partitons, so that there are 20gb left, after that the installer is detecting the free space and suggesting you to install ubuntu there
[12:53] <iceroot> atdprhs: sorry have to go
[12:53] <atdprhs> it's ok iceroot, thanks :-)
[12:53] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Thanks so much for your help
[12:53] <Kvrmurthy> quit
[12:53] <iceroot> Beaupedia: have to go now
[12:53] <EgyParadox> Atharva, check #ukubuntu
[12:53] <Kvrmurthy> #quit
[12:53] <Beaupedia> iceroot: Thanks again
[12:53] <EgyParadox> #kubuntu
[12:53] <iceroot> Beaupedia: you are welcome
[12:53] <fnordistus> http://pastebin.com/SiKc7Y9b
[12:53] <atdprhs> can anyone help me regarding the installation of ubuntu?
[12:54] <scarleo_> !anyone | atdprhs
[12:54] <Atharva> EgyParadox : I think ubuntu and kubuntu both are supported on this channel..
[12:54] <fnordistus> are you still there?
[12:55] <atdprhs> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu installer recognize the partitions correctly so I can install it?
[12:55] <Ush4O> hi, is there an good tool that can detect my hardware and gives out a custommade .config to build an specific kernel for an hardware setup (without modules)?
[12:55] <Beaupedia> What do I choose as my "mount point" when I am resizing a partition? /dos or /windows?
[12:55] <atdprhs> sda1 1 MB, sda2 208 MB, sda3 416823 MB, sda4 83073 MB, sda4 should be 59999 MB
[12:55] <fnordistus> Beaupedia OS/2
[12:55] <Beaupedia> Those are my two options /dos or /windows
[12:55] <atdprhs> and I have teamviewer installed if anyone wanna check it out :-)
[12:55] <scarleo_> atdprhs: should be? Why should it be?
[12:56] <alex-> anyone who can help em?
[12:56] <alex-> me *
[12:56] <alex-> gnome-panel haves no installation canidate
[12:56] <atdprhs> because I deleted and created those free space
[12:56] <atdprhs> scarleo
[12:56] <scarleo_> atdprhs: how did you do that? Is it unpartitioned?
[12:56] <atdprhs> yes
[12:57] <atdprhs> unpartitions through windows, by clicking delete partition
[12:57] <Beaupedia> What do I choose as my "mount point" when I am editing a partition in the installer? /dos or /windows?
[12:57] <scarleo_> atdprhs: and then?
[12:57] <fnordistus> siht daer uoy nac
[12:57] <atdprhs> it was a shrinked partition from C, that became lets say D
[12:57] <atdprhs> then I deleted D
[12:57] <atdprhs> and in ubuntu installer, doesn't read it
[12:58] <Pici> !ot | fnordistus
[12:58] <fnordistus> atdprhs: mount it
[12:58] <atdprhs> and also never gave me install along side with windows option from the very beginning
[12:58] <atdprhs> fnordistus, mount which?
[12:58] <fnordistus> ur windows partition
[12:58] <scarleo_> atdprhs: you have a live cd of Ubuntu?
[12:58] <atdprhs> yes
[12:59] <fnordistus> and then umount it, reboot into windows, do a checkdisk and reboot into linux again
[12:59] <scarleo_> atdprhs: are you in it now?
[12:59] <fnordistus> or something
[12:59] <alex-> got it fixed
[12:59] <fnordistus> i till want to know how to get my 80211n usb banana running
[12:59] <atdprhs> scarleo_, if you want to take a look, I can give you the id and password for teamviewer to control the computer yourself and see it, I think that would be pretty helpfull
[12:59] <swaroop> I tried the live cd on my acer aspire 4736 laptop, but it showed a blank screen. So i again booted with nomodeset and it was working fine. So I guess it is taking vesa driver. But i want support for intel GMA 4500MHD chipset. Is it possible?
[12:59] <atdprhs> I'm using another laptop for here
[12:59] <Beaupedia> What do I choose as my "mount point" when I am editing a partition in the installer? /dos or /windows?
[12:59] <fnordistus> i get mad
[12:59] <scarleo_> atdprhs: no thanks
[12:59] <scarleo_> atdprhs: are you in your live cd now?
[13:00] <wh1zz0> heizmann: and jrib: Thanks guys.. Done.. :)
[13:00] <fnordistus> i got two styx a NWD zyxel and a 5ghz one from toshibanana
[13:00] <fnordistus> maybe a little to much radiation for japanese usb sticks
[13:00] <darshann> Dyrcona:on my last step of installing opensrf 2.0.1 ,while starting srfsh ,i m giving command /openils/bin/srfsh,and i am gettin error, that is no config file found at /root/.srfsh.xml\
[13:00] <atdprhs> yes scarleo
[13:01] <scarleo_> atdprhs: what version? 11.10?
[13:01] <fnordistus> i think my usb stick is acting like a chocolate starfish
[13:01] <bazhang> fnordistus, please stop that
[13:01] <atdprhs> 11.10?
[13:01] <atdprhs> 11.10 sorry
[13:01] <scarleo_> atdprhs: ok, so hit windows button and search for "Disk", and click on Disk utility
[13:02] <Guest64616> fnordistus: and whats wrong with the usb!
[13:02] <atdprhs> I noticed it gave me just now that it's 62 GB, and that's weird because in the installer it doesn't say that
[13:02] <wh1zz0> Please guys... what's the command to view the hidden files in home dir? E.g to ls -al and see .hidden files
[13:02] <wh1zz0> ?
[13:02] <atdprhs> So I was thinking about restarting to windows and make sure it's 62 not 59
[13:03] <atdprhs> in the installer, it says 82 GB
[13:03] <atdprhs> let me restart and check please scarleo_?
[13:03] <scarleo_> atdprhs: did you see if the disk was unpartitioned?
[13:04] <atdprhs> it was free
[13:04] <scarleo_> atdprhs: and how big?
[13:04] <atdprhs> in disk utility, it said correctly and that is free
[13:04] <scarleo_> 62 GB unpartitioned?
[13:04] <atdprhs> 62 GB but I restarted to windows to make sure of this information
[13:04] <atdprhs> yes
[13:06] <atdprhs> scarleo_, just checked from windows, it says 57.62 GB free
[13:07] <eviltoaster> when you are in monitor mode why is the mac address 16 blocks instead of 6?
[13:07] <atdprhs> why in ubuntu says 62 GB in disk utility and installer 82 GB! :-)
[13:07] <gpetrakis> How can I restart the network manager in 11.04?
[13:08] <scarleo_> atdprhs: never mind the difference, just install it to the upartitioned space
[13:08] <atdprhs> what if it caused problems to my data in windows?
[13:09] <atdprhs> I got an idea, of formating it using windows to anything other than ntfs, to make sure the partition is completely different
[13:09] <atdprhs> then delete it
[13:09] <atdprhs> maybe that way, ubuntu will read it right
[13:09] <wunnle> hey all
[13:10] <wunnle> i use ubuntu 11.10, but i don't have the new alt-tab "app switcher" thing. why?
[13:10] <freakynl> Hi, I'm having extremely slow raid-6 performance, it's 8 disk 2tb sata raid-6 (mdadm). It's still syncing (at a whopping 70k, yes k, /s) whilst I'm copying data on it (over iscsi from a windows box, at a whopping ~15MB/s, or well, that's what it says but at 15MB/s it should be done copying the 800GB in after the 16 hours it's been running now)
[13:11] <freakynl> any ideas? when it still was on raid-10 it was fine... iostat output is shocking, disks don't write more than 2.5MB/s a piece
[13:11] <supNow> when workspaces is active everything is black, the wallpaper seems to be removed after an update 3 days ago to 11.10.. anyone know a fix to this?
[13:11] <supNow> all 4 spaces exist and I can see running apps on them, but they are all black
[13:11] <gpetrakis> How can I restart the network manager in 11.04?
[13:12] <scarleo_> gpetrakis: sudo service network-manager restart
[13:13] <stanman246> how can i create a default desktop theme?
[13:13] <gpetrakis> scarleo_: thank you
[13:14] <supNow> can you reset workspaces to default? (not that I edited them)
[13:16] <agoristduane2> Hey would anyone be willing to help me with a problem with my internet connection on Ubuntu 10.10 using my iPhone 4?
[13:17] <angelo> wew
[13:17] <fnordistus> high
[13:17] <Calinou> low
[13:17] <bazhang> fnordistus, hi
[13:17] <angelo> italy
[13:17] <fnordistus> i still can't get my wlan stick working
[13:17] <bazhang> !it | angelo
[13:17] <fnordistus> i am very sad now
[13:18] <root_> how to enable unity top panel in ubuntu 11.10
[13:18] <bazhang> root_, move the panel to the top?
[13:18] <jatt> it's impossible
[13:18] <fnordistus> robert moog told me its possible
[13:18] <bazhang> fnordistus, enough nonsense
[13:19] <jatt> no it isn't
[13:19] <agoristduane2> The problem I'm having is that when i try to use my iPhone's personal hotspot to connect to the internet on my desktop running Ubuntu 10.10
[13:19] <agoristduane2> It won't connecf
[13:19] <fnordistus> sorry i feel a little bit smurf'd
[13:20] <fnordistus> if i tick it in the harddrive begins to work
[13:20] <judgen> would this package work under current distro versions; http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/twin
[13:22] <zee> Hi, For a new  linux user, which would be easier to use? Ubuntu 10.04LTS or Lubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:23] <fnordistus> operation not possible due to rf-kill?
[13:23] <pitlimit> Does anyone know of a lisp ide that i can install from the repositories?
[13:23] <judgen> zee: it does not matter that much, LTS will be supported longer though.
[13:24] <zee> judgen: are the 2 OS very similar?
[13:24] <fnordistus> rfkill unblock all
[13:25] <judgen> zee: Default install differs somewhat and the packages if not backported should be newer versions in 11.*
[13:25] <Singham> zee : I would select 10.04
[13:25] <s1> sudo rf-kill unblock all !
[13:26] <Calinou> Singham: why
[13:26] <Calinou> there is no advantage to using 10.04
[13:26] <zee> judgen: which one do you suggest?
[13:26] <Calinou> the expiration date is the same, zee, you better use 11.10
[13:26] <sskniranjan> hi guys i am new to irc please any one explain me about this
[13:26] <Syd23> hello everybody
[13:26] <Pessimist> How to switch to opengl acceleration on totem?
[13:26] <sskniranjan> hai
[13:26] <fnordistus> but my 5ghz stick still doesnt work
[13:26] <agoristduane2> Hey can someone help me with a problem I'm having with Ubuntu and iOS 4.3.  The problem I'm having is that when i try to use my iPhone's personal hotspot to connect to the internet on my desktop running Ubuntu 10.10 it won't connect to the internet at all
[13:26] <judgen> zee:  I t does not matter much, i would get the newer one probably.
[13:26] <zee> Singham : Is it easier to use for a newbie?
[13:27] <zee> judgen :thanks.
[13:27] <sskniranjan> hai can any one help me
[13:27] <sskniranjan> plzz
[13:27] <Pessimist> How to switch to opengl acceleration on totem? :)
[13:27] <Singham> !question | sskniranjan
[13:28] <ian_> fvsvfnqsdkif
[13:28] <dym> Im having trouble installing Grub on a Raid1 Software raid. When I install to the Boot partition, which is a seperate raid, it shows as beeing installed to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb - On reboot i get the grub commandline tho: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5788570/Bildschirmfoto%202011-10-21%20um%2015.26.57.png - any idea?
[13:28] <Pessimist> !patience
[13:28] <Bularthip> Anyone familiar with pysdm (Storage Device Manager) and available to help me out with some permissions problem?
[13:28] <sskniranjan> thanks ubottu may i know where are u from
[13:28] <sskniranjan> i am from india
[13:28] <bazhang> sskniranjan, ubuntu support question?
[13:28] <Pessimist> !offtopic | sskniranjan
[13:28] <Syd23> hey i upgraded for ubuntu 11.4 to 11.10 but dnt seem to get the lightdm greeter scree of ubuntu
[13:29] <popey> Syd23: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[13:29] <popey> (the caret is important)
[13:29] <sskniranjan> i couldn't under stand as i am new to irc please explain me briefly
[13:30] <Graphics4me> Thanks again soreau .  I see a card compatible with opengl4. :D But it's expensive. I hope to purchase spending at least $500 for all necessary omputer parts in order to build a computer. Looks like I must spend $1,000 -.-               Oh well. I might as well bump the prie I willing to buy a SSD to $200
[13:30] <Pessimist> How to switch to opengl acceleration on totem or how to replace flash with vlc on firefox? (Ubuntu 10.04, newest fglrx)
[13:30] <Syd23> popey doing what u said..let me tell u if it works..thanx
[13:30] <popey> Syd23: might pull in some new packages
[13:30] <bazhang> sskniranjan, this is ubuntu support. what is your ubuntu support question
[13:30] <popey> Syd23: stuff you'd been missing
[13:30] <Graphics4me> sskniranjan: Please visit #freenode to ask IRC questions there. (Double click on #freenode or type ion /join #freenode to go there).
[13:30] <Syd23> ohk..
[13:30] <s1> fnordistus: sudo lsusb -v  , sudo lsmod !
[13:31] <Syd23> i intsalled lightdm..from package manager..but dint work
[13:31] <Syd23> den
[13:31] <sskniranjan> i want to know how it works i.e what all we cant do with it and how
[13:31] <Graphics4me> sskniranjan: Then that's #freenode you should be in.
[13:31] <kefir> Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS uses NTP server announced through DHCP, but Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't seem to do that. How can I get it to use the DHCP server announced NTP server instead of the default one?
[13:31] <bazhang> sskniranjan, IRC in general?
[13:31] <sskniranjan> graphics4me where to type #freenode
[13:31] <Singham> zee : Please see my PM
[13:32] <cvam> all windows, icons on the desktop and panel disappeared and only desktop screen is displayed.and then all windows icons panel appear. they all flashed from second to second. This stops only when close some applications. sys log tells "compiz[4049] : segfault at   4 ip ... " how to fix it
[13:32] <Syd23> thanx
[13:32] <scarleo_> sskniranjan: type /join #freenode
[13:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> sskniranjan type /j #freenode - also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[13:32] <Syd23> restarting popey thanx..anyways..
[13:32] <ronin___> Hi, I want wirte code for fpga with vhdl
[13:33] <ronin___> someone can help to get xilinx
[13:33] <sskniranjan> but where to type this thin can i type it here  where i am now typing
[13:34] <ghabit> Hello. How I can change window theme @ gnome3?
[13:34] <zee> Singham: thanks for the tip. Noted.
[13:35] <VictorCL> how can I check if a server accepts ssh?
[13:35] <Singham> zee : U r welcome ;)
[13:35] <Dances> How do I get the volume control applet back in the notifications area in the 11.10 Unity Panel?
[13:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> ssh localhost
[13:35] <sskniranjan> singhamare u from india]
[13:35] <VictorCL> a remote server
[13:35] <Pessimist> How to switch to opengl acceleration on totem or how to replace flash with vlc on firefox? (Ubuntu 10.04, newest fglrx)
[13:35] <VictorCL> I did ssh user@server.com   .. but does nothing
[13:36] <VictorCL> just stays there
[13:36] <Syd23> popey it did not work..still dint get the greeter screen
[13:36] <bazhang> sskniranjan, please chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:36] <sskniranjan> how
[13:36] <sskniranjan> but why
[13:36] <Syd23> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:36] <Aka> so I tanked an interview yesterday :/
[13:36] <bazhang> sskniranjan, this is ubuntu support ONLY
[13:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> VictorCL if it says refussed then it's switched off , it it times out then it's not there
[13:37] <VictorCL> can I make a ping or something?
[13:37] <sskniranjan> ok sir but i want to know about the irc how it wors can u help me out
[13:37] <bazhang> sskniranjan, in #freenode
[13:37] <seeman> hello everyone, I'm in the process of installing ubuntu into an encrypted LVM, the alternate media lets me do it in its own way that doesn't let me choose if i want any partition outside the lvm or a separate home by default, I'm then trying to achieve this on my own but have a doubt, should i set the "encrypted partition" as physical or logical? thanks in advance
[13:37] <sskniranjan> but where to type this
[13:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> ss where you are typing now
[13:38] <rohdef> is there any problems in expanding an extended partion with either Partition Manager or GParted?
[13:38] <Syd23> hey i dint get the lightdm greeter screen can anyone hell
[13:38] <sskniranjan> i am new to this thing that's wh
[13:38] <s1> sskniranjan: in this window .. type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:38] <Pici> sskniranjan: just type /join #ubuntu-offtopic    right where you're talking to us right now
[13:38] <sskniranjan> i am typing in the text where by which i am posting this
[13:40] <Syd23> when i upgraded form 11.4 to 11.10 ..i did not get the new ubuntu lightdm greeter screen
[13:40] <s1> sskniranjan: www.irchelp.org/ .. a good intro for IRC for a start.
[13:40] <Syd23> i want to try it out
[13:40] <Syd23> sskniranjan go here http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html
[13:41] <folf> #ayatana
[13:42] <s1> !lightdm > Syd23
[13:42] <s1>  /win 14
[13:42] <Syd23> s1: dint get you
[13:42] <s1> Err,
[13:43] <gnx__> are there irc in speaker spanish????
[13:43] <s1> Syd23: is lightdm installed ! , check with apt-cache policy lightdm
[13:43] <Pessimist> How to switch to opengl acceleration on totem or how to replace flash with vlc on firefox? (Ubuntu 10.04, newest fglrx)
[13:43] <Syd23> ohk wait a sec
[13:43] <Pici> !es | gnx__
[13:43] <Syd23> s1: yes it is installed
[13:43] <VictorCL> gnx_ irc.irc-hispano.org
[13:44] <bazhang> !es | gnx__
[13:44] <s1> Syd23: ps -A , is it running !
[13:44] <seeman> hello everyone, I'm in the process of installing ubuntu into an encrypted LVM, the alternate media lets me do it in its own way that doesn't let me choose if i want any partition outside the lvm or a separate home by default, I'm then trying to achieve this on my own but have a doubt, should i set the "encrypted partition" as physical or logical? thanks in advance
[13:44] <theeclipse> To the Ubuntu developers and who the fuck ever said that there should be a release every six months: FUCK YOU! oh btw, thanks for the fucking new login page, it looks much better moving it from the center to the left! guess what?! I even couldn't login after dist-upgrade.. and you know why? because you fucking assholes disabled the DHCP server while setting up the dumb flashplayer package which resulted a whole fucking system goes uns
[13:45] <Syd23> s1: no it is not
[13:45] <Syd23> grep --help
[13:46] <cvam> Ubuntu branch means what ?
[13:46] <Syd23> s1: ??
[13:47] <Pici> cvam: In what context?
[13:47] <Narc> Hello all. Anyone using Gnome 3 on Oneiric can tell me which way/PPA is the preferred one to get gnome-shell-extensions ? Thanks.
[13:47] <DrPoO> Hi, Im running 10.04 LTS and my computer keeps rebooting once in a while and I do not know why... Where can I start looking to see what the problem is???
[13:47] <andrea1002> "!lista"
[13:48] <rohdef> theeclipse, and now that you got your anger and frustration expressed, it would be nice if you would ask for help nicely. I would love to help if I can, but I can't use your outburst for anything
[13:48] <cvam> Pici :here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/  it  asks for ubuntu branch
[13:48] <s1> Syd23: so whats running , GDM !
[13:48] <andrea1002> "!addon"
[13:49] <andrea1002> !addon
[13:49] <Bularthip> I'd need some help with hard disk and partition permissions. Last night I used pysdm to set one hard disk and one partition to automount on system startup but now I only can read both of them, so I have lost my permissions. Why's that?
[13:49] <Pici> cvam: Thats a weird way of putting it, anyway, you probably want to check the first checkbox in each group, or include the 'sources' ones if you're a developer
[13:49] <Pici> !it | andrea1002
[13:50] <Syd23> s1:i have uninstalled gdm..its not running
[13:50] <faraway> hi .. i want to redirect all incoming connections of "eth0:1" from port 80 to 8080, the connections to "eth:0" should not be redirected. i tried it with the -i flag of iptables .. but is doesn't seem to work. now i'm wondering if the -i flag works with "eth0:1"
[13:50] <Bularthip> I guess problem solved, I'll restart ->
[13:50] <rohdef> theeclipse, btw. may I suggest you bugreport your problem(s), so they can be fixed, it's bad enough you got into that mess, but hopefully you could prevent that it happens to other people.
[13:50] <Narc> DrPoO: You could look in the logs, it's in System - Administration, if I remember correctly. Check dmesg, syslog, kernel etc, for any warning/unusual message. It helps to check the time to see what happened exactly when the system crashed.
[13:53] <Syd23> s1: what should i do?
[13:53] <s1> Syd23: you could start lightdm , running sudo service lightdm restart
[13:55] <DextroPhil> i've made an installation cd for ubuntu 11.04 which i successfully used to install it on the laptop i'm using right now. i'm using the same cd to install ubuntu on a second laptop, but this time I don't get any welcome screen, only a command line which i can't type anything into. What gives?
[13:55] <Syd23> s1: ohk
[13:55] <gnx__> is anybody c programer???
[13:56] <jose__> Hi, Im running 10.04 LT and my computer keeps rebooting once in a while, and I do not know why. Where do I start looking to find out whats going on?
[13:57] <Syd23> s1: i need to install ubuntu desktop first
[13:58] <spacebug-> jose__: see if there is anything strange in the system log /var/log/syslog
[13:58] <spacebug-> jose__: also type 'dmesg' and see if there is any problems reported
[13:59] <s1> Syd23: then do so , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:00] <s1> gnx__: you might get more luck in ##c
[14:00] <Syd23> s1: will it solve d problem
[14:00] <Syd23> ?
[14:00] <s1> Syd23: it should is lightdm is part of the desktop , No !
[14:00] <s1> is/s/as
[14:01] <Syd23> s1:..???..
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hey folks'
[14:01] <Pessimist> Does anyone know a plugin that replaces flash videos in firefox with f.e. vlc ?
[14:02] <Bularthip> Oi all! I need help with pysdm, someone available to help me?
[14:02] <tabakhase> *sign* http://www.jemmatzan.com/2011/10/unity-is-the-end-of-ubuntu.html
[14:02] <bazhang> tabakhase, wrong place for that
[14:02] <s1> Syd23: but you said lightdm is installed already! you could try reinstalling lightdm
[14:03] <dyd> with apt-get how can i find all softwares that contain the word chrome?
[14:03] <Pessimist> dyd, apt-cache search chrome
[14:03] <dyd> Pessimist: thanks
[14:03] <bazhang> dyd, apt-cache search first
[14:03] <Syd23> s1: dint get the greeter screen
[14:03] <tabakhase> bazhang im posting couse i want to get veryfied that "its not possible to put gnome on 11.10" where on 11.04 it was possible
[14:03] <dyd> bazhang: ^^ tnx
[14:03] <cheshair> Hi everybody! I have an freshly updated ubuntu 11.10 and Skype installed. Skype version is 2.2.0.35-0natty1. When I search for Skype on Ubuntu Software Center I am told there are two versions of Skype available, both called "Skype:i386". I wonder why there are two of them and neither of them is marked as already installed on my system.
[14:03] <tabakhase> its not for bitching ;-)
[14:03] <bazhang> !notunity | tabakhase
[14:04] <bazhang> tabakhase, if by gnome you mean classic then something similar but not exactly the same as 'classic'
[14:04] <tabakhase> "While you can install that package and get a half-working GNOME menu system, you cannot get your taskbar or configurable panels back."
[14:05] <s1> Syd23: is your graphic card activated !
[14:05] <Syd23> i dnt knw
[14:05] <r1za> Русские есть??
[14:05] <bazhang> !ru | r1za
[14:05] <guanerpao> 有人吗
[14:06] <s1> Syd23: check it from Additional Drivers.
[14:06] <bazhang> !cn | guanerpao
[14:06] <Syd23> ohk
[14:06] <AlecTaylor> hi
[14:06] <AlecTaylor> GUI XML viewer for Linux with support for large file sizes + auto-format?
[14:06]  * AlecTaylor uses foxe.exe on Windows
[14:06] <Syd23> s1 : it says no proprietry drivers in use
[14:08] <tomasm-> hi, I just installed 11.10, and for some reason, the mouse cursor is real finicky..... sometimes I see the arrow, hand, etc but especially when on the desktop/toolbar, etc its just a block of blurry pixels... any idea whats wrong, how to fix it?
[14:08] <phlak_user> tomasm-: can you try changing the cursor theme using gnome-tweak-tool?
[14:09] <Syd23> s1:...i am clue less
[14:10] <tomasm-> phlak_user, k, the odd thing is that most of the alternate cursors work, just not the standard/default one
[14:10] <phlak_user> tomasm-: ok
[14:10] <tomasm-> almost like the cursor file is corrupt or something
[14:12] <commanace> hi, i'd like to find out whether a remote sshd server supports pubkey authentication. unfortunately i have no rights to open the sshd config. is there another way to find out?
[14:12] <tomasm-> am I able to change the windowing theme somehow (ie how/where window buttons are displayed, plus colors, etc)? 11.10 is completely foreign to me
[14:12] <dyd> ù
[14:13] <josh_> i wanted to but i think we cannot move the left unity panel
[14:13] <phlak_user> commanace: by sending it a key for auth in place of password and running ssh in debug mode, you can see the messages
[14:13] <stanman246> hi i'm running 10.04 and want firefox to run dutch. How could i do that?\
[14:13] <josh_> you can load dutch webpages with english firefox
[14:13] <josh_> or change the language in ubuntu
[14:14] <stanman246> i changed the language to dutch in ubuntu
[14:14] <s1> Syd23: okay , perhaps propietray driver for your grahpic card regarding that! am clueless myself :-) .. but still you can check what driver your card is useing and what can be used .. Run / sudo lshw -C display
[14:14] <commanace> phlak_user: what do i have to look out for?
[14:14] <stanman246> then added the stable ppa and installed ff7
[14:14] <guanerpao> JOIN #ubuntu-cn
[14:14] <stanman246> but it's english :( instead of dutch
[14:14] <phlak_user> commanace: a response from the server saying accepting key or something
[14:14] <josh_> theres only a couple things thought right ^
[14:14] <kahen`> stanman246: have you installed the dutch language pack for firefox? try 'apt-cache search firefox-locale'
[14:15] <s1> Syd23: see what GPU it's & look for the driver in the configuration: line
[14:15] <tomasm-> phlak_user, k, i got that tool, and i changed the settings, but i didnt see anything change, even after closing the tool
[14:15] <lfactor> hi all, really not sure which channel to ask in, but i've just switched from Mandriva to Ubuntu 11.10 and my FPS in wine games is terrible, 1/4 before using the same wine version, i've got the latest nvidia drivers. I'm running unity 2d.
[14:15] <lfactor> any hints?
[14:15] <josh_> i cant run normal unity with my graphic card it looks like
[14:15] <Syd23> s1 : configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[14:15] <stanman246> kahen`, no i didn't i installed thunderbird the same way and that one ran dutch... i'll try to install firefox-locale
[14:15] <josh_> lfactor good question, i can only run unity 2d too with my nvidia 260
[14:16] <kahen`> stanman246: probably firefox-locale-nl
[14:16] <lfactor> josh_, :( i've got a similar card
[14:16] <josh_> i kept windows for games only, do you thin u can have the same fps on ubuntu ? ( guess not :( )
[14:16] <s1> Syd23: okay ,  am looking for something on the release note
[14:16] <commanace> phlak_user: http://nopaste.info/dfe6b02253.html
[14:16] <lfactor> actually ,bit faster
[14:16] <lfactor> GeForce GTX 460
[14:17] <josh_> oh shit,...
[14:17] <josh_> a bit
[14:17] <Bularthip> Is someone familiar with pysdm (Storage Device Manager)? I need help, I think it has fucked things up.
[14:17] <Pessimist> josh_, depends on your card
[14:17] <commanace> phlak_user: i'm not quite sure how to interprete that, because it says it can go on with publickey... does that mean it is supported in general?
[14:17] <bazhang> Bularthip, josh_ no cursing here
[14:17] <stanman246> kahen`, did the trick, thank you!
[14:17] <josh_> really ? i thought ud lose performance sinc eu have to use wine
[14:17] <lfactor> jose__, still runs terrible with this new distro...
[14:18] <guanerpao> !cn
[14:18] <darshann> how to find file in linux
[14:18] <josh_> probably but i installed ubuntu to my girlfriend laptop and so far its the only one she dosnt see any difference in user friendly with windows
[14:18] <Pessimist> josh_, if you use wine then it depends on compability and your gpu
[14:18] <stanman246> darshann, locate
[14:18] <Syd23> can anybody help me get lightdm greeter screen
[14:18] <Pessimist> darshann, man locate
[14:18] <compdoc> darshan, locate is great. you have to run 'sudo updatedb' first
[14:18] <josh_> haha someone called pessimist give me some hope ! what an irony n! LOL
[14:19] <Pessimist> josh_, I think we (you) will be bashed for offtopic
[14:19] <commanace> phlak_user: as can be seen from the output, it doesn't work, ... but i'm not sure whether that's because it is not supported by the server or whether that's because i have an error in my config
[14:19] <Narc> Hello all. Anyone using Gnome Shell on Oneiric can tell me which way/PPA is the preferred one to get gnome-shell-extensions ? Thanks.
[14:19] <thegladiator> am facing lot of isses after upgrade mostly graphics / display issues like desktop dissapearing etc
[14:20] <Anon42> Does someone know how to get Hotspot Shield?
[14:20] <thegladiator> I need to find a stable gui replace , is there any suggestions gnome shell too is broken . Xfce too has issue
[14:20] <Pessimist> thegladiator, download 10.04.3 :)
[14:20] <thegladiator> you mean roll back ?
[14:20] <thegladiator> old version of Ubuntu ?
[14:20] <Pessimist> thegladiator, yes. The good, old gnome 2 with no unity :)
[14:21] <cheshair> Hi! When I search for Skype on Ubuntu Software Center I am told there are two versions of Skype available, both called "Skype:i386". I wonder why there are two of them and neither of them is marked as already installed on my system. (Ubuntu 11.10 and Skype already installed)
[14:21] <auronandace> thegladiator: or you could use kde
[14:21] <josh_> hey pessimist, if i have many devices to protect behind a single firewall, do you think its worth it to use an old comp with linux and configure it to serve as a pure firewall or its not worth it and ud rather have a firewall per device
[14:21] <thegladiator> lol , I wish really , but looking to some alternative because i think kernel is fine :)
[14:21] <Syd23> s1??
[14:21] <josh_> or anyone really...
[14:21] <thegladiator> yeh might have to go for KDE
[14:21] <fmancinelli> Pessimist, unity is not that bad. it's just that the there are some regressions wrt 11.04
[14:22] <Pessimist> cheshair, maybe you have two repos who have the same software in it? Try apt-get purge skype, then apt-get install skype
[14:22] <auronandace> thegladiator: if you want to stick to gtk there is xfce and lxde
[14:22] <thegladiator> i am facing lot of issues with desktop in unity .... xfce seems to have problems too actually
[14:22] <Bularthip> Well it _blew something up
[14:22] <auronandace> thegladiator: what issues in xfce?
[14:23] <cheshair> Pessimist, i'll check it out. where am i supposed to find my repos? are those the same i found in my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[14:23] <Pessimist> josh_, depends on what you want. My router provides good firewall and it satisfies me..
[14:23] <thegladiator> like when I try to open 2 file managers , or a paticular movie folder in my desktop ....everything dissapears
[14:23] <Pessimist> cheshair, yes. Paste it to pastebin and paste the link here
[14:24] <auronandace> thegladiator: are you using compiz with xfce?
[14:24] <thegladiator> yeah auronandace
[14:24] <thegladiator> xubuntu session basically
[14:25] <auronandace> thegladiator: compiz has always been rather buggy for me
[14:25] <thegladiator> yeah could be compiz then
[14:25] <thegladiator> how do I remove compiz ?
[14:25] <josh_> compiz been buggy for me too unfortunately :(
[14:25] <auronandace> thegladiator: try this in a terminal: xfwm4 --replace
[14:25] <josh_> unity or unity 2d wouldnt load anymore
[14:25] <ipefix> hello there! I have some doubt before installing ubuntu in dual boot on my netbook
[14:26] <thegladiator> ok I will try that , now I am in a different session
[14:26] <auronandace> thegladiator: sorry, you might need to use sudo there
[14:26] <thegladiator> need to remove cairo too I guess then
[14:26] <en1gma> im working on this guide http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/hardware-compatibility-list/28361-wusb600n-v2-ralink-rt3572-chipset-works-like-charm.html to build a driver that will work with my wifi adapter to it can do monitor/inject....anyhow i do not understand this part "I also had to download and extract rt3071.bin firmware (yeah, looks more than strange - rt3572 chipset, working with rt2800 driver and rt3071 firmware  ) from Debian's
[14:26] <en1gma> firmware-ralink 0.24 staging package here:"
[14:26] <thegladiator> yeah sudo ofcourse
[14:26] <FloodBot1> en1gma: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <en1gma> where did he copy the rt3071 firmware too?
[14:26] <Bigbucks> How can I get a user rights to a folder through root terminal?
[14:26] <Syd23> hey can anybody help me by telling me how can i learn linux and ubuntu..i am like an intermidiate user
[14:26] <ipefix> my plan is to create 3 partitions: one for windows (about 50 gb, that will also be used for the rare softwares i will be using on windows), one for ubuntu and one for everything else
[14:26] <bazhang> en1gma, using BT?
[14:26] <reisio> Syd23: what're you trying to accomplish?
[14:26] <ipefix> do i need to create a large partition for ubuntu like for windows?
[14:26] <en1gma> im using ubuntu 11.10
[14:26] <en1gma> in wmware
[14:27] <gentoo_drummer> I used the command line installation since i hate unity and installed xfce. the system is incredible fast, even quicker than my debian and i was wondering if someone could tell me how can i get the default ubuntu font rendering
[14:27] <en1gma> bazhang is that ok
[14:27] <ipefix> or will the ubuntu softwares be installed in the 3rd partition?
[14:27] <reisio> ipefix: that's one decent way
[14:27] <reisio> ipefix: you only have to worry about areas, you'll need three: one for Windows, one for Ubuntu and possibly its swap partition, and one for your extra you were talking about
[14:27] <Bigbucks> How can I grant user rights to a folder through root terminal?
[14:28] <Bigbucks> Like change the folder ownership
[14:28] <b0ot> Could someone recommend a piece of software that would be able to take in Video streams (rtp/udp) and be able to record them, and then have an interface to be able to access those videos on demand (via rtp/udp)?
[14:28] <ipefix> ok, so let's say i will install Soft1, Soft2 and Soft3, they will automatically go to the 3rd partition? I can create a 5 GB partition for Ubuntu only then?
[14:28] <overdub> Bigbucks: chown
[14:28] <Syd23> i want to do more complex tasks using the terminal , reisio
[14:28] <pingupingu> hello folks
[14:28] <overdub> chown -R user:group
[14:28] <reisio> Syd23: like what, pick something
[14:28] <reisio> pingupingu: hi
[14:29] <reisio> ipefix: you probably don't want to deal with that
[14:29] <Syd23> umm..like package mangment
[14:29] <pingupingu> any one else got the issue with slow wireless speeds after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 ?
[14:29] <pingupingu> hey reisio
[14:29] <reisio> ipefix: you don't have to worry about storage, though, you will be able to access all three of your filesystems from either OS
[14:29] <shadowhywind_> morning all, just upgraded to 11.10 (used to the classic gnome), I was wondering is there a way to get the file/edit/view menu  to stay visible even when the mouse is not over it?
[14:29] <en1gma> can someone pm me that knows how to build kernels and knows their way around doing stuff like that?
[14:29] <stanman246> so, i customized a desktop theme and now i'd like to use that as a default theme for new users, how should i do that?
[14:29] <empity> I'm on ubuntu server 10.04, and I can't get monit running
[14:29] <Syd23> s1:..what should i be doing
[14:30] <empity> very strange because it doesn't really give errors, but the daemon won't load in any way
[14:30] <s1> Syd23: i didn't find anything releated to lightdm and your driver .. i was looking here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes
[14:30] <cheshair> Pessimist, here is the content of my sources.list along with a brief summary of my problem
[14:30] <ipefix> reisio: ok then, I will create a small one for Ubuntu :) thanks for your help!
[14:30] <cheshair> Pessimist, here is the content of my sources.list along with a brief summary of my problem http://pastebin.com/JtpVwv58
[14:30] <empity> anyone else got the same problem?
[14:30] <reisio> stanman246: short of copying the theme data from your ~/ every time you make a new user, you'd want to overwrite the corresponding files in /etc/
[14:30] <reisio> ipefix: that isn't what I said, is it? :p
[14:31] <BluesKaj> en1gma, there's alot of info on the net about building kernels , if you want someone's exclusive attention in PM then good luck, you'll probly be waitng a long time
[14:31] <Syd23> s1:..thanx for ur help anyway
[14:31] <reisio> ipefix: I'm saying if you accidentally give to much space to each OS, it won't matter, because you can still store personal data in that space
[14:31] <ipefix> reisio: hmmm, sorry, my English is not that perfect actually :$
[14:31] <reisio> too much*
[14:31] <darshann> i m totally new to linux
[14:31] <en1gma> yea...i would have never thought of that....
[14:31] <Pessimist> cheshair, try apt-get update
[14:31] <Syd23> reisio..like services and package mangment
[14:31] <darshann> need to search .srfsh.xml file
[14:31] <darshann> wat command i should use
[14:31] <en1gma> there is 1750 ppl in here...think anyone is really going to be able to help with something complicated in the main window?
[14:31] <darshann> igogle it
[14:32] <darshann> der are varity of it
[14:32] <ipefix> reisio: ok, but what I was wondering is just if there will be a problem if I have a partition only for Ubuntu and no softwares that I'm gonna use lol
[14:32] <en1gma> if someone knows their way around with building kernels...just pm me
[14:32] <Syd23> reisio i want to be someone who knows things..i hope u get what i mean
[14:32] <cheshair> Pessimist, I already tried with apt-get update
[14:32] <reisio> en1gma: nope, because you haven't said what the problem is, have you
[14:32] <en1gma> yea
[14:32] <reisio> Syd23: yeah...
[14:32] <arghx> darshann: if you search for a file, use "man file"
[14:32] <en1gma> im working on this guide http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/hardware-compatibility-list/28361-wusb600n-v2-ralink-rt3572-chipset-works-like-charm.html to build a driver that will work with my wifi adapter to it can do monitor/inject....anyhow i do not understand this part "I also had to download and extract rt3071.bin firmware (yeah, looks more than strange - rt3572 chipset, working with rt2800 driver and rt3071 firmware  ) from Debian's
[14:32] <en1gma> firmware-ralink 0.24 staging package here:"
[14:32] <en1gma> where did he copy the rt3071 firmware too?
[14:32] <arghx> darshann: sorry. use "man find"  of course
[14:32] <reisio> ipefix: you'll probably want space for some 3rd party software, yeah...
[14:33] <arghx> en1gma: I strongly suggest a backtrack forum. hwo should we know where they want their firmware?
[14:33] <en1gma> im using dang ubuntu
[14:33] <en1gma> gimmie a break
[14:33] <ipefix> reisio: ok, now that's clear :P I will give 50 GB to ubuntu too :)
[14:33] <ipefix> reisio: thanks for your help!
[14:33] <arghx> en1gma: but you don't use this firmware with ubuntu, do you?
[14:33] <bazhang> en1gma, then why follow a bt guide
[14:33] <reisio> ipefix: have fun now
[14:33] <darshann>  <arghx> so is this will be correct sysntax - man find .srfsh.xml
[14:33] <en1gma> omg you never followed a building guide have you
[14:33] <ipefix> thanks :P have a nice day!
[14:33] <en1gma> like i said if you dont know then dont reply
[14:34] <en1gma> if you know then pm me
[14:34] <tomasm-> hi, is there a windowing theme that has the window close/min/max buttons on the right corner of the window bars? i really dont like them on the left
[14:34] <tasse> hey guys i just installed gnome-shell but i got a problem: if i drag a window to the top or drag one to left it does NOT get maximized/fittet to half of the screen - if i try it with unity it works. What can i do?
[14:34] <arghx> en1gma:  please answer my question
[14:34] <popey> en1gma: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_0.33.tar.gz
[14:34] <reisio> en1gma: you haven't said what it is you want to know
[14:34] <popey> en1gma: that is the file you want
[14:34] <bazhang> en1gma, bt is not supported here
[14:34] <en1gma> where did he copy the rt3071 firmware too?
[14:34] <Syd23> reisio ..then what should i be doing..dnt tell me to read a book..cz i dnt want to right scripts
[14:34] <en1gma> there it is again
[14:34] <popey> en1gma: probably /lib/firmware
[14:34] <en1gma> 3rd time now
[14:34] <reisio> Syd23: you don't want to do what?
[14:34] <en1gma> that is where the output of the new build goes
[14:34] <Syd23> reisio dnt want to be scripting
[14:34] <popey> en1gma: thats where firmware goes.
[14:34] <en1gma> dont it use that file to actually build the new firmware?
[14:35] <en1gma> thats where it goes after the BUILD
[14:35] <Syd23> cn you give a resource..reisio
[14:35] <en1gma> i really need someone who knows what they are doing...my question is related to building
[14:35] <reisio> Syd23: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/package-management.html
[14:35] <arghx> en1gma: you obviously have no clue what this firmware does and what it is. please go to a backtrack forum to learn about it
[14:35] <en1gma> its not bt related...i guess you have no clue to building
[14:35] <arghx> en1gma: no it is NOT related to "building". you are not building a single bit of firmware at all
[14:36] <en1gma> leave me alone
[14:36] <Syd23> alright thanx reisio
[14:36] <en1gma> someone just pm me
[14:36] <popey> en1gma: I'm trying to help you.
[14:36] <en1gma> yes i know
[14:36] <en1gma> appreciate it
[14:36] <arghx> popey: please try to help him in #backtrack or whatever. cause it's not a ubuntu question
[14:36] <Syd23> reisio ive got a problem dt i dnt get the lightdm greeter screen ..can you help
[14:36] <reisio> Syd23: what do you get instead?
[14:37] <popey> arghx: he said he's running ubuntu
[14:37] <Syd23> resio: a lame gdm like screen..
[14:37] <en1gma> definately running ubuntu in vmware
[14:37] <Syd23> resio its not gdm
[14:37] <BBBThunda> is there an aptitude or dpkg command that tells me where a package's files were installed?
[14:37] <arghx> popey: he doesn't want to know where to put firmware in ubuntu but where to put it in BT
[14:38] <reisio> BBBThunda: dpkg -L
[14:38] <arghx> popey: therefore it's a BT question and OT
[14:38] <s1> Syd23: you can reinstall lightdm !
[14:38] <en1gma> arghx you are lyin
[14:38] <en1gma> i never said that
[14:38] <BBBThunda> ahhhhh thanks reisio
[14:38] <tomasm-> hi, is there a window list panel/bar for applications currently running I can setup in 11.10? i'm used to gnome 2 where I can add new panels, etc
[14:38] <Syd23> done that a lot of times..reisio
[14:38] <arghx> en1gma: you cannot use the firmware in your ubuntu ever. vmware has no access to your ralink wlan chip.
[14:38] <reisio> ?
[14:38] <en1gma> i said i need to know where to put it before the build....i dont want to know where it puts it AFTER it builds it
[14:39] <Guest88540> is it possible for mu lucid to upgrade to kernel 3.x?
[14:39] <reisio> Guest88540: of course
[14:39] <arghx> Guest88540: only if you upgrade to oneiric
[14:39] <Syd23> reisio i have reinstalled lightdm more than once..nothing helped
[14:39] <arand> !notunity | tomasm-
[14:39] <reisio> Syd23: oh someone else suggested that
[14:39] <reisio> Syd23: you say it's a DM but not lightdm?
[14:39] <arghx> Syd23: have you purged lightdm before reinstalling? (in case the config files have some bad option)
[14:39] <en1gma> well i might just install ubuntu to my ssd then
[14:40] <idefix> hi, with what program can you remove sound from 3gp-movie files?
[14:40] <Syd23> reisio ..yea.
[14:40] <arand> tomasm-: For that I am guess you'd need gnome-panel
[14:40] <Syd23> reisio so what should i do..purge?..how do i do that?
[14:40] <Bularthip> So, now it seems I have lost totally my permissions as system Administrator :o
[14:40] <reisio> Syd23: but you don't think it's gdm, either?
[14:40] <shadowbank> nope, i just want to retain as lucid but i have to upgrade to kernel 3.x, could that be possible/
[14:41] <arghx> shadowbank: technically possible and unsupported
[14:41] <tomasm-> arand, yeah, this is starting to bug me, thanks
[14:41] <cheshair> Pessimist, I tried purging and reinstalling Skype with apt-get, it seems it's now retrieving 2.2.0.35-0oneiric2 version
[14:41] <Syd23> reisio yes
[14:41] <cheshair> Pessimist, it's weird apt-cache policy didn't mention anything about this oneiric version before the purge
[14:41] <Syd23> reisio i uninstalled gdm
[14:41] <cheshair> Pessimist, thanks
[14:41] <reisio> idefix: permanently?
[14:42] <meta-coder> What are the reasons for having a separate partition for /boot/ ?
[14:42] <arghx> cheshair: apt-cache policy <skype package> ?
[14:42] <shadowbank> arghx: how can i upgrade to kernel 3.x and if possible also to gnome 3 :D
[14:42] <arghx> meta-coder: RAID
[14:42] <arghx> shadowbank: upgrade to oneiric
[14:42] <Pessimist> Syd23, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[14:43] <josh_> arghx i had so many problems installing linux on fakeraid  ( infact i only knew it was fake raid and not real raid after i got my comp ) i had to install 10.04 and upgrade to the current version, its the only grub that works with fakeraid it looksl ike
[14:43] <Syd23> Pessimist..
[14:43] <shadowbank> arghx: what if i just want the kernel to upgrade to 3.x, how could that be?
[14:43] <wh1zz0> Anyone noticed any serious issues with oneiric?
[14:43] <arand> shadowbank: kernel 3.0, possibly, although it's not recommended, gnome3 is liekly not possible without changing half of the system, more or less..
[14:43] <Syd23> pessimist .done that sellected lightdm ..it had two options lightdm and kdm..chose lightdm
[14:43] <reisio> shadowbank: what do you want linux 3.x for?
[14:44] <Pessimist> Syd23 try signing out and signing in?
[14:44] <Syd23> Pessimist .ohk .wait a sec
[14:44] <shadowbank> reisio: i want to test its stability on laptop ;D
[14:44] <meta-coder> Which of these partitions generally used by Linux distros should be primary? / , /boot , /home , swap ? Can I use logocal partitions for / , /boot and swap?
[14:45] <reisio> shadowbank: usually people who want to be beta testers already know how to do that
[14:45] <AnAnt> Hello, is there a way to control the logo position in unity-greeter ?
[14:45] <wh1zz0> Also, if I upgrade to oneiric, I know that I will have all my files intact BUT the question is will I have all my settings intact? Like configurations as well as theme and all that?
[14:45] <Syd23> Pessimist..same old screen
[14:45] <arand> !mainline | shadowbank
[14:45] <Pessimist> Syd23, then try restarting ?
[14:45] <arand> shadowbank: But not that that is only intended for _testing_
[14:45] <Syd23> Pessimist..ohk..
[14:45] <arand> shadowbank: *note
[14:46] <cheshair> arghx, i think i ran into a very weird behaviour, i pasted some code here: http://pastebin.com/0sfJD3E5
[14:46] <shadowbank> : nah nah, it's my first time to change my lucid's config. just want to try kernel 3 before i wipe lucid :D
[14:47] <Pessimist> cheshair, what's the output after apt-get install skype?
[14:47] <a> lapin
[14:47] <arghx> cheshair: apt-cache policy
[14:47] <cheshair> Pessimist, what output? policy?
[14:47] <Guest11587> rabbit
[14:48] <zolomon> i have a question guys, do i have to enable the firewall again when i set up a new user account?
[14:48] <Pessimist> DId it finish apt-get install skype correctly?
[14:48] <s1> shadowbank: why don't you test it on a VM !
[14:48] <dr_willis> zolomon:  no. firewall is system wide
[14:48] <dr_willis> !firewall
[14:48] <zolomon> dr_willis: thanks
[14:48] <Syd23> Pessimist...same old screen ..after restarting
[14:48] <cheshair> Pessimist, yes
[14:48] <cheshair> it did
[14:48] <Pessimist> Syd23, try reconfiguring kdm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:49] <Syd23> Pessimist.den?
[14:49] <cheshair> arghx, apt-cache policy output is in my pastebin post, before and after skype reinstall
[14:49] <wh1zz0> Pessimist: Please I wish yo know.. If I upgrade to oneiric, I know that I will have all my files intact BUT the question is will I have all my settings intact? Like configurations as well as theme and all that?
[14:50] <jason___> Hey there. Does anybody know if Flash for PPC Ubuntu exists? If so, is it updated?
[14:50] <AnAnt> Hello, is there a way to control the logo position in unity-greeter ?
[14:50] <Pessimist> cheshair, try "locate / -iname 'skype'", post the output without permission errors to pastebin. Do you have the bin?
[14:51] <kayaman> hi all
[14:51] <DraiMein> quick question
[14:51] <s1> Pessimist: Syd23 is using the i915 driver , could that be related!
[14:51] <DraiMein> i know i can instal ubuntu with a flash drive
[14:51] <DraiMein> but i can't find any of mine
[14:51] <nils_> hmm my new oneric setup doesn't seem to start the X server
[14:51] <DraiMein> could i use my G3 without breaking it
[14:52] <devish> nils_: whats the error
[14:52] <Pessimist> wh1zz0, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[14:52] <cheshair> Pessimist, locate? do you mean "find"?
[14:52] <dr_willis> DraiMein:  ive yet to break a flash drive by running linux on it.. but they do have a limited life... ive just never managed to kill one yet.
[14:52] <nils_> devish: doesn't show any, last message I see is mountall: Disconnected from plymouth
[14:52] <Pessimist> cheshair, just check if you have the bin in "/usr/bin"
[14:52] <mike30> Hi, I have just freshly installed 11.10 from 10.10 and I can't get the hang of unity: how do I add custom buttons to it?
[14:52] <Syd23> Pessimist..did that..kdm is dere..no lightdm
[14:52] <cheshair> Pessimist, it's there
[14:53] <devish> nils_: so u can login via shell ?
[14:53] <mike30> I can't seem to create launchers on the unity bar in 11.10
[14:53] <kayaman> may anyone help me how to convert music or video from MP4 into other format  like flv ....................etc
[14:53] <kayaman> may anyone help me how to convert music or video from MP4 into other format  like flv ....................etc
[14:53] <nils_> devish: yeah, I can also run X, there is just no login screen
[14:53] <Pessimist> Syd23, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html
[14:54] <s1> kayaman: use a converter app.
[14:54] <devish> nils_: oh login is disabled i suppose its on autologin
[14:54] <Pessimist> cheshair, so it is installed but it doesn't show on package list as installed?
[14:54] <devish> nils_: just remove that
[14:54] <mike30> easy question: how do I open another instance of an app on the unity bar? clicking on it just finds the existing one
[14:54] <kayaman> i have download converter application but nothing
[14:54] <nils_> devish: didn't set autologin, I just tried to start X from the console.
[14:54] <devish> mike30: which app
[14:55] <th_> hm, compizconfig crashed whole X while looking around configurations, now logging in only shows nautilus at top bar, no unity
[14:55] <mike30> devish: xterm
[14:55] <_trine> mike30, try ctl n or the middle mouse button
[14:55] <kayaman>   S1 i have download converter application but nothing
[14:55] <devish> nils_: ohhh in that case you have already provided the credentials so why it will ask again
[14:55] <mike30> _trine: no middle mouse button, and ctrl-n didn't work out for xterm
[14:56] <kayaman> s1  help me  now am running ubuntu 11.10
[14:56] <devish> nils_: didn't you verify your identity when login into shell
[14:56] <nils_> devish: yeah the thing is it doesn't start the X server with the login prompt after booting.
[14:56] <Syd23> Pessimist i dnt have gdm
[14:56] <_trine> mike30, if you want another terminal alt ctl t
[14:56] <Reaper> ! notunity
[14:56] <nicofs> I need help connecting to a wlan network: For the past weeks, my network manager has had issues to the point where I can't connect anymore. Even with a simple LAN connection, I have to do dhclient manually in console. Something is awfully wrong. Please help me!
[14:56] <mike30> _trine: so there is no universal "hold this key and click" ? Any way to add one?
[14:56] <cheshair> Pessimist, skype was installed and is currently installed after the purge/reinstall. the problem is some sort of (apparent) inconsistency between apt-get and ubuntu software center
[14:57] <s1> kayaman: which app , there is many , and dfine " nothing" .
[14:57] <th_> halp someone, unity showing only top bar on desktop and nothing else
[14:57] <devish> nils_: one more guess so xserver is not set as default?
[14:57] <b0ot> my current version of ragel is 6.5
[14:57] <kayaman> may anyone help me how to convert music or video from MP4 into other format  like flv ....................etc
[14:57] <b0ot> but I need 6.6
[14:57] <b0ot> how do i get it
[14:57] <devish> nils_: try pressing ctrl +alt f7
[14:57] <kayaman> irriveter
[14:57] <Pessimist> cheshair, restart ubuntu software center. Maybe you should report a bug
[14:57] <dr_willis> kayaman:  ffmpeg, arista, winff. mencoder..
[14:58] <nils_> devish: it is, maybe it has something to do with installing nvidia drivers
[14:58] <reisio> kayaman: why... FLV is inferior to MP4
[14:58] <kayaman> s1 lets have private chat
[14:58] <Syd23> hey how do i report a bug..
[14:58] <cheshair> Pessimist, at the end of the day ubuntu software center realizes skype is installed but two same versions of skype are found
[14:58] <cheshair> Pessimist, ok i will
[14:58] <B0g4r7> flv is just a container format.
[14:58] <s1>  th_ unity -reset  !
[14:58] <B0g4r7> much like mkv.
[14:59] <s1> Syd23: Alt+F2 Run/  ubuntu-bug PACKAGE
[14:59] <devish> nils_: what  pressing ctrl +alt f7gives
[14:59] <Pessimist> Syd23, if you use kdm it should be similar to sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm. Just change gdm to kdm and try to choose (if you can) to lightdm. Maybe you have some other errors in your system or a unique configuration?
[14:59] <nils_> devish: the console screen I had after booting
[14:59] <devish> nils_: maybe it restores from the last session
[14:59] <hacktool97> hello!
[15:00] <hacktool97> или привет!
[15:00] <Pessimist> !ru | hacktool97
[15:00] <th_> s1: doesn't help
[15:00] <hacktool97> !ru
[15:00] <devish> nils_: you can try updating then upgrading then if the issue exists report back
[15:00] <Syd23> Pessimist..i choose lightdm..when i configure..i dnt knw about other errors
[15:00] <nils_> devish: I'll try, thanks.
[15:01] <arghx> cheshair: no it's not
[15:01] <devish> Syd23: lightdm is used only for changing the lock screen wallpaper?
[15:01] <arghx> cheshair: please run the command I actually gave you
[15:01] <Pessimist> Syd23, maybe kde has some other configuration tools for kde display manager? Look for them. I don't use kde much
[15:01] <nicofs> I need help connecting to a wlan network: For the past weeks, my network manager has had issues to the point where I can't connect anymore. Even with a simple LAN connection, I have to do dhclient manually in console. Something is awfully wrong. Please help me!
[15:01] <cheshair> arghx, i will immediately
[15:01] <th_> unity2d is full of gfx problems :/
[15:01] <devish> Syd23: or it has more uses
[15:02] <devish> th_: not tried;)
[15:02] <hacktool97> maybe I'll show you stupid
[15:02] <hacktool97> but how to install packages in all of your favorite linux?
[15:02] <Pessimist> !ru | hacktool97
[15:02] <arghx> cheshair: btw, it's not strange. the version number of skype didn't change between natty and oneiric so there was no reason whatsoever to update it.
[15:02] <th_> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/07083531697b7ca4b5b5b0350783a173 :/ i'm getting tired of reporting bugs though as they just don't get fixed
[15:02] <Syd23> devish no it doesnot have more uses i gues..
[15:02] <dr_willis> hacktool97:  use the software center tool. or the apt-get pacakge manager tools you perfer.
[15:03] <devish> hacktool97: in what sense? what is the context?
[15:03] <Syd23> Pessimist me either used gdm earlier
[15:03] <upper2bits> Just updated a server to the new ubuntu and my shells now have a bar at the bottom. Is this new, a feaure that came with the image I got?  http://bit.ly/p5zLuy  How can I shut it off?
[15:03] <arghx> cheshair: but then you deleted it, it donwloaded the oneiric version since that's the only one available
[15:03] <devish> Syd23: this makes it cool
[15:03] <Syd23> devish i know..dts y i want it
[15:03] <dr_willis> upper2bits:  thats byobu a screen variant.
[15:03] <devish> Syd23: can't we change bootloader background here some cpio stuff in suse and other linux?///
[15:04] <kayaman> dr_wills now am running on ubuntu 11.10  may give  an application for  converting
[15:04] <dr_willis> upper2bits:  notice the F9 menu item at the bottom
[15:04] <b0ot> How would I install ragel 6.6 (how do I confirm the current version)
[15:04] <upper2bits> dr_willis: it starts when I login..
[15:04] <dr_willis> kayaman:  for converting what to what?
[15:04] <dr_willis> upper2bits:  yes... it has that ability.. again.., see the f9 keys menu items...
[15:04] <devish> b0ot: apt-get install XX
[15:04] <cheshair> arghx, that makes sense... thank you so much for your explanation!! here comes the output of apt-cache policy: http://pastebin.com/7pyi3awR
[15:04] <arghx> b0ot: dpkg -l <packagename>  will tell you the currently installed version
[15:04] <b0ot> devish, apparently that gave me 6.5
[15:04] <b0ot> i need 6.6
[15:05] <Bularthip> It seems I no longer have Administrator or root permissions on my own PC, can someone help me?
[15:05] <dr_willis> upper2bits:  you may want to read a screen tutorial or 2 and learn how to use screen. its veyr very handy
[15:05] <arghx> !info ragel
[15:05] <upper2bits> dr_willis:  Thanks! :-)
[15:05] <arghx> b0ot: do you run oneiric?
[15:05] <kayaman> dr wills converting  MP4 to flv or other format
[15:05] <dr_willis> kayaman:  i mentioned 4 tools earlier.. ffmpeg, mencoder, winff, arista
[15:05] <arghx> kayaman: ffmpeg for example
[15:05] <b0ot> arghx, not sure what that is
[15:06] <reisio> kayaman: why do you want to do that
[15:06] <arghx> b0ot: which version of ubuntu do you run? oneiric is the latest version from october 2011
[15:06] <dr_willis> kayaman:  most gui tools are front ends to winff or mencoder
[15:06] <klonkn> hello there
[15:06] <b0ot> 10.04
[15:06] <b0ot> L T S
[15:06] <arghx> b0ot: then you need to do a backport I guess
[15:06] <reisio> klonkn: hi
[15:06] <kayaman> let me check in ubuntu software center
[15:06] <klonkn> can any help me with broadcom wireless drivers?
[15:06] <b0ot> backport?
[15:07] <fastputty> hi, i cannot to my ftp because of that passive port. Someone could help me out. I have a rule iptables setuped: /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 70.50.252.192 -i eth0 --dport 9999 -j ACCEPT
[15:07] <arghx> !backport
[15:07] <magn3ts> fastputty, protip, don't use FTP.
[15:07] <devish> b0ot: if its not in the repo than u can't but u can compile;)
[15:07] <fastputty> i see the connection has been established but cannot display directoies.
[15:07] <fastputty> magn3ts: huh?
[15:07] <arghx> b0ot: only that you would need to create your own backport#
[15:07] <devish> fastputty: nice name!!!
[15:07] <b0ot> devish, how do i do that
[15:08] <BluesKaj> nicofs,  this tutorial for ethernet on Lan , http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ , you will no longer need network manager .
[15:08] <magn3ts> fastputty, don't use FTP, it's insecure and totally unnecessary in linux land.
[15:08] <fastputty> magn3ts: what would you use then?
[15:08] <nicofs> BluesKaj: and for wlan with encryption?
[15:08] <klonkn> I installed the open source drivers supplied by broadcom but networkmanager dosentsee any networks, or that its isntalled. I think
[15:08] <magn3ts> fastputty, scp/sftp.
[15:08] <devish> b0ot: what type of package they provide
[15:08] <fastputty> hmm i see
[15:08] <devish> b0ot: for linux
[15:08] <magn3ts> fastputty, if you install openssh-server, you get a free file transfer setup with any SCP/SFTP client (basically any FTP client will wor with it) :)
[15:09] <arghx> fastputty: if you have that error with ftp it means your ftp server is behind a NAT and doesn't do the portforwarding correctly. as others suggested: use sftp which works via ssh server
[15:09] <nicofs> BluesKaj: until recently, it worked. now it doesn't. I consider that a problem i want to serve, not work around...
[15:09] <b0ot> devish .dsc?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> nicofs, it would help us help you if you mentioned what kind of network in your question
[15:09] <nicofs> BluesKaj: *solve
[15:09] <mneptok> b0ot: there is a Debian package for Ragel 6.6 that looks like its dependencies are met by 10.04 packages. you could try installing that Debian. package. but it's very, very much unsupported, and slightly dangerous. better to upgrade the Ubuntu distribution and get the newer Ragel that way.
[15:09] <devish> b0ot: what is that
[15:09] <klonkn> so if anyone has any pointers.. :D
[15:09] <devish> b0ot: deb?
[15:10] <devish> b0ot: link please
[15:10] <B0g4r7> fastputty, try 'modprobe nf_conbntrack_ftp' and try again.
[15:10] <b0ot> at Debian. package. but it's very, very much unsupported, and slightly dangerous. better to upgrade the Ubuntu distribution and get the newer Ragel that way.
[15:10] <B0g4r7> fastputty, er,  'modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp'
[15:10] <fastputty> magn3ts: sftp is not recommanded, basically its like ssh will allow user to launch some command.
[15:10] <fastputty> magn3ts: i dont want this
[15:10] <b0ot> opps
[15:10] <arghx> klonkn: why did you install those? and which broadcom chip is it?
[15:10] <nicofs> I want to connect to a wlan network using WPA2, PEAP, MSCHAPv2. It used to work via network manager, now it doesn't anymore. I can't connect.
[15:10] <th_> ok so, what to do, logging in only shows nautilus top panel, unity doesn't start. --reset didn't help
[15:10] <fastputty> magn3ts: simple user , a simple ftp is ok
[15:10] <mneptok> b0ot: uhhh ...
[15:10] <fastputty> magn3ts: data is not confidential
[15:10] <arghx> fastputty: you are wrong
[15:11] <b0ot> http://packages.debian.org/sid/ragel
[15:11] <BluesKaj> nicofs, so which is it wifi or ethernet ?
[15:11] <nicofs> BluesKaj: it's wifi.
[15:11] <arghx> fastputty: you are behind a NAT with your server. there ftpd is not really suitable
[15:11] <mneptok> fastputty: FTP is a far greater security risk than SFTP. and much harder to implement in Ubuntu.
[15:11] <klonkn> arghx: its 0576/43224
[15:11] <klonkn> arghx: and because the supplied drivers didnt work
[15:12] <kayaman> dr_wills how could get those codecs like ffmpeg
[15:12] <BluesKaj> nicofs, which chip?
[15:12] <arghx> klonkn: does ubuntu claim support for this chip?
[15:12] <B0g4r7> I agree that FTP is old and broken and should generally be avoided.
[15:12] <magn3ts> fastputty, you can allow them to scp/sftp without having a login shell.
[15:12] <arghx> !info scponly
[15:12] <fastputty> magn3ts: thanks for the info
[15:12] <tomreyn> hi, where can i get help and report oneiric upgrade issues?
[15:12] <tomreyn> *help with
[15:12] <klonkn> arghx: The restricted driver that comes with ubuntu says it supports this chip but I cant get it to work
[15:12] <nicofs> BluesKaj: Atheros AR9285 - but as i said... it worked before... and even LAN has issues
[15:12] <arghx> tomreyn: here. this is a ubuntu support channel. for reporting issues, use the bugtracking system
[15:13] <klonkn> arghx: and also, ubuntu seems to support my machine (thinkpad edge 13 amd)
[15:13] <arghx> klonkn: broadcom ones are unsupported and as you can see you can't get it to wrok either
[15:14] <b0ot> so I found the tar.gz tried to follow the install, but it says error 1
[15:14] <b0ot> when you do make
[15:14] <fireprint> Having issues after a update, with the famous black box around my cairo dock. The normal stuff does not seem to work. Anything i might've missed checking?
[15:14] <b0ot> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[15:14] <arghx> b0ot: you do NOT want to compiled from the tar.gz. please do a backport
[15:14] <b0ot> arghx, how?
[15:15] <arghx> b0ot: this is not the error you got. this is simply the last error shown. the important error is the first error.
[15:15] <etienne564> salut
[15:15] <klonkn> arghx: the open source broadcom driver works for some ppl, dont know why i cant get it to work
[15:15] <th_> ok so, what to do, logging in only shows nautilus top panel, unity doesn't start. --reset didn't help
[15:15] <arghx> you create a backport by downloading the ubuntu source for the ragel 6.6 package, installing the build-deps with apt-get and then running dpkg-buildpackage on it. that gives you a .deb you can install normally
[15:16] <tomreyn> okay, so i was running the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 on amd64 and at the same time i had the web browser open and was typing something into a HTML form. at once, a small message box popped up, stealing focus, and asked a question with two options. I was still typing and thus typed a letter which resulted in one of these options being selected. I could niot see
[15:16] <klonkn> arghx: was that last message for me?
[15:16] <arghx> klonkn: no
[15:17] <cheshair> arghx, by looking at my apt-cache policy output do you happen to find any reason why i have two different skype entries in ubuntu software center? both of them referring at the same skype:i386 package... thank you so much for your help
[15:17] <tomreyn> I could not see which option was selected or what this prompt was about. What happened next is that my gnome session was ended, and i was bumped to a broken gdm.
[15:17] <arghx> cheshair: I don't know anything about software center. I use apt-get only
[15:17] <Bularthip> This really is getting hard for me, can't find anything on google either. Does someone have any idea why have I lost my Administrator permissions, still as I am administrator and it worked correctly few hours ago?
[15:17] <mneptok> b0ot: if you're not willing to upgrade your Ubuntu version to get the newer version, download the Debian package for Wheezy (should work with Lucid)
[15:17] <fireprint> Anyone with thoughts on what it might be? (the black box on my cairo-dock)
[15:17] <monchap> hi
[15:18] <arghx> !errors | Bularthip
[15:18] <cheshair> arghx, ok i will (and i have almost ever done so), thank you very much!
[15:18] <tomreyn> this gdm now displays a lot of broken images "X" and a login prompt which is not doing anything. there are two options to the side but those are just about powering down, which doesn't seem like a good solution while i seem to be inmidst of a failed upgrade.
[15:18] <Bularthip> I won't get any errors, it's just simply that I nearly can't do anything on my own PC anymore
[15:18] <tomreyn> what should i do now?
[15:18] <mneptok> b0ot: and you only have to move one Ubuntu release forward (to Maverick 10.10) to get Ragel 6.6
[15:19] <reisio> kayaman: ?
[15:19] <arghx> Bularthip: we don't have any idea (cause we have not enough information), and we don't care either, why would we. you shouldn't care much about it either. all you should try is to regain thm. but what you wrote so far doesn't further that goal. please start asking questions, etc which we can actually help and which actually matter
[15:19] <arghx> tomreyn: ctrl+alt+f2 and reinstall the gdm package
[15:20] <jason___> Has anybody used Lightspark in Ubuntu?
[15:20] <heyitseric> Bularthip: what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:20] <kayaman> resio am here
[15:21] <kayaman> resio am here
[15:21] <reisio> kayaman: hi
[15:21] <kayaman> fine
[15:21] <b0ot> mneptok, L>T>S
[15:21] <kayaman> lets go to private chat
[15:21] <reisio> why do you want to convert your MP4?
[15:21] <nicofs> BluesKaj: still with me?
[15:22] <kayaman> my car fails to play mp4
[15:22] <kayaman> my car radio fails to play
[15:22] <tomreyn> arghx: i just did, it is already the newest version. also, there are unresolved dependencies. should i apt-get -f install as suggested? is there something i should do to retain logs before i go on so that this situation csn be examined by someone lster?
[15:22] <arghx> tomreyn: yes you should
[15:22] <b0ot> arghx, at Debian. package. but it's very, very much unsupported, and slightly dangerous. better to upgrade the Ubuntu distribution and get the newer Ragel that way.
[15:22] <b0ot> shoot
[15:23] <Bularthip> heyitseric, last night I needed help here with automounting my hard disk with the system. I was told and helped to install and use pysdm (Storage Device Manager) and I got the hard disk to automount correctly. Few hours ago, I noticed that the hard disk had read-only mode on, and I thought that I should restart. Well, I restarted and now, for example, I can't Unlock my User at User Control, because it says I need to contact the adminis
[15:23] <Bularthip> trator.
[15:23] <b0ot> sorry i'm running ubuntu in a vm and i keep forgeting i can't copy paste
[15:23] <tomreyn> arghx: which of my two questions were you responding to?
[15:23] <mneptok> b0ot: you run LTS for the stability. installing a Debian package may well interrupt such stability. you're choosing LTS because you don't want the latest and greatest that may have rough edges. live with that decision, i'm afraid.
[15:23] <b0ot> I added backports.debian.org to my sources.list
[15:23] <Bularthip> heyitseric, also I can't open the hard disk anymore, as I don't have permission for it.
[15:23] <kayaman> reisio  my car radio fails to play
[15:23] <mneptok> b0ot: do NOT do that
[15:23] <b0ot> file but it said signitures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[15:23] <arghx> tomreyn: run apt-get -f install please
[15:24] <arghx> b0ot: bad bad idea. please do your own backport from maverick. do NOT use debian packages.
[15:24] <mneptok> b0ot: you either install a single package from Debian, or do nothing.
[15:24] <kayaman> reisio  my car radio fails to play  mp4 files
[15:24] <arghx> mneptok: no. don't tell people to install anything from debian.
[15:24] <nicofs> I need someone who can help me troubleshoot a wifi connection...
[15:24] <mneptok> arghx: it's his only option other than an Ubuntu upgrade.
[15:24] <arghx> mneptok: wrong
[15:25] <BluesKaj> nicofs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/67437/how-do-i-install-a-driver-for-an-atheros-ar9285
[15:25] <kayaman> reisio are you there
[15:25] <mneptok> arghx: and if you read backscroll, i have hardly been encouraging.
[15:25] <th_> grah, finally
[15:25] <arghx> mneptok: he can do a backport
[15:25] <Bularthip> and heyitseric, I even can't see my bookmarks on Mozilla anymore, as it seems I don't have permission to use the path they're located, lol.
[15:25] <th_> crashing compizconfig corrupted compiz files and caused unity plugin to get disabled
[15:25] <arghx> kayaman: do you have a ubuntu related question? if so pose it. if you want to chat with reisio, go to a -offtopic channel please
[15:25] <th_> sometimes ubuntu and unity feel like one big ball of hacky bubblegum
[15:25] <Bularthip> th_, tell me about it
[15:26] <mneptok> arghx: infinitely more complex for a package with fairly vanilla dependencies.
[15:26] <nicofs> BluesKaj: Why do I suddenly need a new driver? I didn't upgrade and it worked...
[15:26] <kayaman> yes i have please help me
[15:26] <tomreyn> arghx: is there a way to have the unattended upgrade process restart from where it has left off or do i need to continue the update manually using apt-get dist-upgrade next?
[15:26] <kayaman> arghx help me
[15:26] <arghx> tomreyn: have you run apt-get -f install
[15:26] <heyitseric> Bularthip, thats the first time ive ever heard of someone not being able to see bookmarks
[15:26] <klonkn> Has anyone got wireless to work with a broadcom 43224 chip?
[15:26] <b0ot> The whole thing I'm trying to do is install feng... has anyone had any experience with it?
[15:27] <tomreyn> arghx: it's still running, i just wanted to get an idea of the next steps
[15:27] <b0ot> feng requires ragel
[15:27] <Bularthip> heyitseric yeah, me too. It's like... weird.
[15:27] <arghx> kayaman: do you need help commiting suicide? do you need help to get a date? to get laid? to win the lottery? please think (even if it's hard) before typing. thank you
[15:27] <kayaman> am fail to convert mp4 to other format like flv
[15:27] <mneptok> arghx: please lose the attitude
[15:27] <BluesKaj> nicofs, ok it's a suggestion, some driv ers need to be remodprobed , but it's up to you , good luck
[15:27] <arghx> mneptok: feel free to +b if you feel the urge.
[15:27] <sskniranjan> can we call for free to those on the skype even when they are not logged in at that time
[15:27] <Milos_SD> Hi
[15:28] <kayaman> now am running ubuntu 11.10
[15:28] <Milos_SD> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 on IBM ThinkPad T42 and pulseaudio
[15:28] <mneptok> arghx: uhhhh ... that's you're solution?
[15:28] <nicofs> BluesKaj: erm... what would "remoprobe" mean?
[15:28] <mneptok> *your
[15:28] <Milos_SD> pulse doesn't detect the alsa card, but it is present
[15:28] <kayaman> arghx do you get me what i need
[15:28] <Milos_SD> something about ibm_acpi is too old...
[15:28] <arghx> mneptok: solution for what? I don't have a problem the way I type. apparently you do. so you need a solution, not me
[15:28] <s1> klonkn: I know i got my wireless working with BCM4401 .
[15:29] <tomreyn> mneptok: may i ask you for help then?
[15:29] <mneptok> someone just woke the wrong dog.
[15:29] <mneptok> tomreyn: stand by
[15:29] <BluesKaj> rm the module , the modprobe it after rebooting , that was one method that worked , another is the url I posted . nicofs
[15:29] <kayaman> arghx refer my question  on music convention
[15:30] <jason___> I wonder... is there a way to break up an ISO into 2 sections for non-DVD systems, so you can have it prompt you for disc 2, etc?
[15:30] <sskniranjan> sir plzz tell me can we call any one for free who  are in skype even when they are not logged in at that time
[15:30] <Harmonium> Hey, people, what happened with Gnome Baker in 11.10? It got uninstalled by the update. How can I install it again?
[15:30] <nicofs> BluesKaj: how could i install the package without internet connection? is there a way to dl it?
[15:30] <reisio> kayaman: what format does your radio need?
[15:30] <heyitseric> Bularthip: but then again i dont mount windows partitions
[15:30] <mneptok> tomreyn: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:30] <klonkn> s1: what driver did you use?
[15:31] <reisio> jason___: just split it with 'split', rejoin it on the new hard disk, then mount it virtually
[15:31] <nicofs> BluesKaj: how do i find out how the module is called and remove it?
[15:31] <sskniranjan> hay any one listening me
[15:31] <reisio> sskniranjan: ?
[15:31] <reisio> jason___: or better yet transfer it over a network, don't split it at all
[15:31] <BluesKaj> nicofs, you aren't deleting it , merely temporarily removing it , then re insterting the module
[15:31] <kayaman> reisio
[15:31] <s1> klonkn: the iwl3945 one.
[15:31] <reisio> kayaman: yeah?
[15:31] <jason___> reisio: mount it virtually? How do I do that? What I'm hoping to do is put Ubuntu PPC onan iBook with a CD drive, but the image is oversized @ like 710MB.
[15:31] <jason___> reisio: what I'd like to do is install it with disc 1 and it promptme for disc 2.
[15:31] <tomreyn> mneptok: okay, that's what i would have done if nobody here would have had a better solution. and i assume this means there is no better solution, such as continuing on the unattended upgrade?
[15:32] <kayaman> okay help me on sound converion
[15:32] <reisio> jason___: ah
[15:32] <sskniranjan> sir i want to know than can we call any one for free on skype even when they are not logged on at that time
[15:32] <reisio> jason___: no USB?
[15:32] <jason___> reisio: I dont think they USB boot. They're *that* old.
[15:32] <reisio> kayaman: you want to convert an MP4 audio file to something else?  What?
[15:32] <jason___> reisio: besides I think the startup disk creator doesnt support PPC ISOs
[15:32] <jason___> reisio: I tried that already
[15:32] <s1> kayaman: you still looking for that sound converter! .. try mobile media converter.
[15:32] <mneptok> tomreyn: that is an unattended upgrade. are you trying to get a new version of Ubuntu as well?
[15:32] <kayaman>  yes
[15:32] <nicofs> BluesKaj: personally, i don't care how exactly it is called, what i am doing... i'd just be happy to know what i have to type where to do it...
[15:32] <kayaman> okay
[15:32] <kayaman> s1
[15:32] <reisio> jason___: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[15:33] <heyitseric> kayaman: why not just buy an mp4 player
[15:33] <tomreyn> mneptok: well my 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade failed somewher ein the middle.
[15:33] <orated> Everytime I try to use recovery mode, the process ends with something like - couldn't find whiptail, cannot start recovery mode. And then drops to prompt. Can anyone help me fix it?
[15:33] <reisio> jason___: it's 710? What? :p
[15:33] <kayaman> heyitseric  your are a fool
[15:33] <jason___> reisio: 710mb
[15:34] <jason___> reisio: I lied, 741
[15:34] <tomreyn> mneptok: so i'm wondering whether there is a general way to recover from it other than what you suggested. I assume the ubuntu unattended GUI release upgrade does a little more than just the steps you suggested? suh as applying some extra patches etc.
[15:34] <Reaper> ! not unity
[15:34] <Reaper> ! notunity
[15:34] <reisio> jason___: that sounds pretty odd
[15:34] <reisio> jason___: where'd you get it?
[15:35] <evelyn> hi guys, is there a webpage or similar that can display how the various worldwide ubuntu repo mirrors are performing?
[15:35] <mneptok> tomreyn: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:35] <reisio> evelyn: performing?
[15:35] <tomreyn> mneptok: i was also wondering whether there's something i should do to keep logs for someone to examine what may have gone wrong with my upgrade.
[15:35] <kayaman> reisio
[15:35] <s1> klonkn: is yours a b43xxx one !
[15:35] <kayaman> help me
[15:35] <evelyn> reisio: as in which are being swamped
[15:35] <reisio> kayaman: you have to tell me what you want
[15:35] <jason___> reisio: this is at work. We have a fleet of old mac systems that are near-useless due to everybody dropping the PPC platform on mac. So I was thinking about throwing linux on them and seeing if htey work. Of course, we need flash, but I'll cross that bridge hwen I get there. I need to get linux PPC ON the darn machines before I can test further.
[15:36] <tomreyn> aha do-release-upgrade sounds good.
[15:36] <kayaman> let go  to our private chat
[15:36] <dr_willis> jason___:  there is no flash on ppc linux last i looked.
[15:36] <s1> !pm | kayaman
[15:36] <jason___> dr_willis: there are 2 alternatives I want to test out. gnash and lightspark.
[15:36] <kayaman>  so how could i get those  codecs
[15:36] <jason___> dr_willis: I want to see how well they perform. BUT, I need LInux PPC on a darn PPC system to test it :P
[15:36] <kayaman>  so how could i get those  codecs
[15:36] <reisio> jason___: sounds like a good idea
[15:37] <jason___> dr_willis: ad since the image is 741mb, too big for a CD, yet they dont USB boot, and they don't have DVD drives... I'm stuck...
[15:37] <dr_willis> jason___:  last i checked into those. they were lacking.  but in general i found ppc linux on my old imac dv to be rather poor.
[15:37] <b0ot> So without installing ubuntu 10.10 (sticking with 10.04) how would I get ragel 6.6
[15:37] <reisio> jason___: that can't be the right image then :p
[15:37] <orated> My recovery mode option on grub is not working. Can anyone help me fix it?
[15:37] <tomreyn> mneptok: apt-get update won't work since i'm on a terminal and thus have no network connection
[15:37] <jason___> dr_willis: lightspark only came out in 2010, but sounded like it had a decent following, so I was hoping ti may work.
[15:37] <dr_willis> jason___:   what image is 741mb?
[15:37] <kayaman>  so how could i get those  codecs like ffmpeg
[15:37] <jason___> reisio: yes, it is. It has a notation underneath it on the ubuntu daily image site that its oversized.
[15:37] <darshann> srfsh# request opensrf.math add 2 2 ,after running this i m getting  received no data from server
[15:37] <reisio> jason___: oh it looks like Ubuntu doesn't do PPC anymore
[15:37] <jason___> reisio: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:37] <reisio> jason___: should use Debian
[15:37] <jason___> reisio: its community supported
[15:38] <dr_willis> kayaman:  ffmpeg is compiled with support for differnt formats nornally. winff is a front end to ffmpeg.
[15:38] <jason___> reisio: I tried, but ubuntu (community supported) seems to work better than debian (officially supported)
[15:38] <reisio> looks like the community doesn't know how big CDs are
[15:38] <reisio> jason___: better how?
[15:38] <jason___> reisio: last I tried I couldnt even INSTALL debian PPC because hte boot loader gave me the bird. Meanwhile Ubuntu PPC installed like a champ.
[15:38] <tomreyn> mneptok: okay i just did 'dhclient eth0' so i've got networking now.
[15:38] <reisio> kayaman: I don't know what format you want for your radio thing — MP3?
[15:38] <jason___> reisio: speaking of which, I have a dekstop system with a DVD drive...
[15:38] <jason___> reisio: I wonder if I could install it, image it with clonzilla, and fire it out to the other ones
[15:39] <dr_willis> jason___:  supposubly a mac can somehow boot from a second mac.. via a firewire cable...
[15:39] <jason___> reisio: but clonezilla needs to have a PPC edition... I wonder if they do...
[15:39] <jason___> dr_willis: that's only mac to mac. firewire.
[15:39] <jason___> dr_willis: target disk mode.
[15:39] <reisio> jason___: image from what to what
[15:39] <darshann> ne1 can help me__srfsh# request opensrf.math add 2 2 ,after running this i m getting  received no data from server
[15:39] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anyone know a "cloud storage" server?
[15:39] <jason___> reisio: install Ubuntu PPC on the desktop mac with a DVD drive, upload it to my external drive, then deploy it to othe rmacs with no DVD drive.
[15:39] <kayaman> okay dr_will but tell me how can get those winff
[15:39] <jason___> reisio: problem is I need clonezilla PPC edition. I wonder if they have it
[15:39] <dr_willis> kayaman:  its in teh  software center...
[15:39] <dr_willis> !info winff
[15:39] <reisio> jason___: have you tried burning this 707MB image?
[15:40] <jason___> reisio: stab me http://clonezilla.org/downloads/stable/iso-zip-files.php
[15:40] <reisio> jason___: external drive?
[15:40] <dr_willis> jason___:  there is also some possible issue with how the # of mb is counted.. Mb vs MiB - the image might fit on a 700mb cd
[15:40] <jason___> reisio: yes, external drive.
[15:40] <jason___> dr_willis: it wont burn. it says insert larger disc.
[15:40] <kayaman> okay thanks alot dr_wills  now i see
[15:40] <reisio> jason___: oh copy from a live OS?
[15:41] <dr_willis> kayaman:  theres other tools in the software center for converting stuff.. depends on the detals of what you want to convert
[15:41] <kayaman> okay dr_wills
[15:41] <darshan_> ne1 can help me plzz...srfsh# request opensrf.math add 2 2 ,after running this i m getting  received no data from server
[15:42] <kayaman> let me update that winff then  i shall inform you
[15:42] <kayaman> let me update that winff then  i shall inform you
[15:42] <reisio> jason___: you don't need clonezilla, you can just mount the external and copy a tarball over, then extract it
[15:43] <djjonex> can somebody give me the name of a good distro that can run perfect with 1gb ram
[15:43] <reisio> jason___: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ for extra driver stuffo
[15:43] <dr_willis> djjonex:  most of them can
[15:43] <djjonex> dr_willis: im running ubuntu 11.10 and my video are lacking
[15:44] <dr_willis> djjonex:  thats not a 1gb of ram issue then..
[15:44] <djjonex> dr_willis: what you recommend?
[15:44] <heyitseric> new video card
[15:45] <djjonex> lol
[15:45] <daschel> Hello, and thanks in advance.  I installed 11.10 a few hours ago and can't get my usb logitech headset to work.  I've found similar threads on ubuntuforums, but they didn't resolve my issue.   In sound settings under hardware, it recognizes my headset, but under the input and output tabs it does not.  Any suggestions?
[15:45] <heyitseric> djjonex,  what movie player are you using
[15:46] <djjonex> heyitseric: Movie Player
[15:46] <heyitseric> djjonex: is the video choppy or whats it doing
[15:47] <djjonex> heyitseric: the audio is perfect is just the video thats chopping
[15:47] <djjonex> heyitseric: looks like if the fps are to low lol
[15:47] <heyitseric> djjonex,  what file type mp4 mkv
[15:47] <nicofs> Can someone help me get my wifi to work?
[15:47] <djjonex> avi
[15:47] <djjonex> heyitseric: avi
[15:47] <heyitseric> nicofs: ask your question
[15:48] <reisio> djjonex: what res
[15:48] <neshtc> Xvid format?
[15:48] <neshtc> Codecs-_-
[15:48] <heyitseric> djjonex, does it do that to all files or only this one, might be a bad encode
[15:48] <dios_mio> i think new ubuntu is out
[15:49] <dios_mio> when did it come out?
[15:49] <nils-> dios_mio: you are a bit late to the party ;)
[15:49] <s1> klonkn: which model is your card! perhaps it's been blaklisted or conflicted with bcma and ssb.
[15:49] <dios_mio> nils-.. yes... how long has it been?
[15:49] <nicofs> I can't connect to a connection I could previously connect to. Network Manager displays the "connecting..." icon for ages and repetetively asks me to confirm my name and pw for the connection - but never establishes one...
[15:49] <djjonex> heyitseric:  i think is hardware because u just try to do something else with the display and  the sounds chpped too
[15:49] <nils-> dios_mio: October 13th if I remember correctly
[15:50] <djjonex> heyitseric: maybe need a new videdo card
[15:50] <dios_mio> ty nils-
[15:50] <dr_willis> djjonex:  and your video card is what?
[15:50] <djjonex> how i know that?
[15:50] <dr_willis> lspci command, or  the jockey-gtk tool may offer some info
[15:51] <BadDesign> Where is everybody?
[15:51] <heyitseric> nicofs: most pswd are case sensitive, make sure youre typing it right
[15:51] <neshtc> Terminal lspci to list hardware
[15:51] <s1> sudo lshw -C video
[15:51] <djjonex> dr_willis: ok i just have a fresh install of 11.10 and thats my 1st movie downloaded ...let me open the terminal brb
[15:51] <heyitseric> djjonex, sudo apt-get install smplayer . try this player see if it works better
[15:52] <djjonex> heyitseric: thanks ill try it
[15:52] <dr_willis> I  did just discover a nice little Home theater pc disrto -> http://www.openelec.tv/
[15:52] <nicofs> heyitseric: thank you - but i never changed it, since it worked - and i'm quite sure that i didn't type it incorrectly all the 100 times i entered it - and i suppose neither did my mate whose credentials we also tried...
[15:52] <dr_willis> similer to geexbox.
[15:52] <orated> How can I find processor fan rpm? Does acpi helps to find that?
[15:52] <dr_willis> If its to bne  Just aa video playeer .
[15:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:53] <klonkn> Awesome!!! Got my wireless working, finally
[15:53] <edbian> klonkn: :)
[15:54] <dabukalam> after installing fluxbox on ubuntu minimal, how can i get it to start on bootup, so I don't have to login and launch it from commandline
[15:54] <klonkn> edbian: damn it feels good
[15:54] <heyitseric> nicofs: i get this problem if i switch off my wireless card, a reboot fixes it for me
[15:55] <nicofs> heyitseric: during these last days of wifi crisis, i rebooted my netbook several times...
[15:55] <dfalcao> i'm in live with unity now
[15:55] <dfalcao> oops, love
[15:55] <jaypetey> can anyone tell me how to setup a custom lightdm session in 11.10?
[15:56] <tantewillem> hello
[15:56] <heyitseric> nicofs: have you tried logging into the router and trying a new pswd
[15:56] <tantewillem> i want to ask a question
[15:56] <luis_> Go
[15:56] <heyitseric> ask your question
[15:56] <jrib> tantewillem: ok, just ask then :)
[15:56] <tantewillem> does anyone now why the hardrive prices are so high
[15:56] <nicofs> heyitseric: it's not my router, it's my university's
[15:57] <tantewillem> i want to make a pc with ubuntu but hardrive was 4
[15:57] <jrib> jaypetey: why?
[15:57] <tantewillem> 0
[15:57] <tantewillem>  euros
[15:57] <jrib> !enter | tantewillem
[15:57] <tantewillem> and now it's 80 euros
[15:57] <tantewillem> okay
[15:57] <tantewillem> sorry
[15:57] <sniperjo> i have gdm running, how can i get the correct DISPLAY variable from a serial connection on another computer ?
[15:57] <heyitseric> tantewillem, last hdd i bought was a 300 gig for 32 bucks
[15:57] <nicofs> heyitseric: the way i see it, something is awfully wrong with my netbook. even connecting to LAN or completely unsecured networks is not working properly.
[15:58] <tantewillem> yeah but my 1tb hardrive normaly cost 40
[15:58] <tantewillem> but now its 80
[15:58] <heyitseric> tantewillem,  theyve never cost 40 here lol
[15:59] <tantewillem> in belgium it cost 42 euros and 99 cent exactly$
[15:59] <tantewillem> now it 85 euros
[15:59] <jrib> tantewillem: I still fail to see how this is related to ubuntu
[16:00] <luis_> Buy from the US
[16:00] <oCean> tantewillem: you might try netherlands/belgium specific #ubuntu-nl channel
[16:00] <tantewillem> no its evry where in the world
[16:00] <oCean> tantewillem: please don't continue here
[16:00] <luist> why i cant ssh to my ubuntu? says no route to host
[16:00] <tantewillem> k i go to ubuntu-nl
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> luist: is your ubuntu in the same network range as your other pc?
[16:01] <_jfb> anyone have any ideas why the ibus icon keeps reappearing on 11.10 even though I've set the preferences to off?
[16:01] <luist> MonkeyDust: yep :T
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> luist: can you ping to your ubuntu?
[16:02] <iceroot> if anyone is having kernel-panics on eeepcs with 11.10 can you please append to this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/869502
[16:02] <luist> MonkeyDust: oh i found the problem… thanks :)
[16:02] <evelyn> is someone able to advise the difference between upgrade, dist-upgrade, full-upgrade and safe-upgrade in the context of 11.10 apt?
[16:03] <bobweaver> Hi there Ihope that every one is doing great! After updating to 11.10 all well almost all of my perl programs dont work:>( I think that there are a couple of versions insatalled. is there something for perl like update-alternitves --configure  ?
[16:03] <bobweaver> use 5.10 insrtead of 5.12 ?
[16:03] <iceroot> evelyn: man apt-get   man aptitude
[16:04] <iceroot> evelyn: the first and second are apt-get
[16:04] <iceroot> evelyn: the rest is aptitude
[16:06] <luis_> What is aptitude?
[16:06] <bobweaver> or what about pointing the perl some how ? under ~/.local/applications/perlapp.desktop ?
[16:06] <_jfb> luis_: a better apt-get
[16:06] <luis_> Cool
[16:06] <bobweaver> !aptitude
[16:06] <bobweaver> !perl
[16:06] <iceroot> hm, aptitude is a frontend to dpkg and not to apt-get
[16:06] <iceroot> or?
[16:07] <syn-ack> no, to apt-get
[16:07] <syn-ack> hence the name
[16:07] <jrib> iceroot: I would think of apt-get and aptitude as frontends to libapt
[16:07] <syn-ack> rather, what jrib said.
[16:08] <syn-ack> Sorry, been up waaaaaaaaaay too long to do any sort of critical thinking.
[16:08] <iceroot> yes and libapt is using dpkg as backend
[16:08] <sniperjo> i can't seem to find the right $DISPLAY variable
[16:08] <andi__> error: cannot open Packages index using db5
[16:08] <syn-ack> alright, later guys.
[16:09] <chris1234> hello worlkd
[16:10] <babble> (double post, sorry) hey all - I'm using apt-get download to download all of my installed packages, but it apparently can't find *two* packages out of the list of installed generated with Synapytic (Save Markings As...) *or* dpkg --get-selections (it fails with either list for two packages); is there a way to get verbose output for apt-get failures so I can see what it can't find?
[16:11] <evelyn> iceroot: ok thanks for the pointers. my understanding is that full-upgrade = dist-upgrade and safe-upgrade = upgrade. full-upgrade/dist-upgrade is the less conservitive of the methods (and thus most likely to break things) - am i understanding this correctly?
[16:11] <intok> 11.04, how do I transcode a video into a dvd.iso file?
[16:11] <hellhammer> I'm installing openSUSE 11.4 how do i make it so my ubuntu partition shows up in grub so i can boot into ubuntu?
[16:11] <iceroot> evelyn: not exactly
[16:11] <ShawnRisk> how do I add an app to the unity sidebar in Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:11] <iceroot> evelyn: you have installed package A and it has a dependency to package B
[16:12] <evelyn> yep
[16:12] <Rainy-day> Hi, where do I set up the option to switch desktops by using mouse wheel on desktop?
[16:12] <iceroot> evelyn: now a new version of B is out
[16:12] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> emmmmmmmm
[16:12] <LaFlakitaBnAsika> spanish??
[16:12] <iceroot> evelyn: sudo apt-get upgrade will NOT update package B. upgrade will not change any OTHER package, only the directlys installed package
[16:13] <th_> ShawnRisk: drag it there from dash
[16:13] <evelyn> iceroot: yep understand thus far
[16:13] <th_> ShawnRisk: or start the software and 2nd click on it > keep in launcher
[16:13] <nicofs> Please... can someone help me with my wifi connection? I can't connect even to completely open networks. I addition, even connecting to LAN has issues (i have to do dhclient manually). This happens with wicd and network manager (no, i don't run both at the same time). Yes, i checked the spelling of all passwords, and i rebooted several times. All connections I use have worked before. I did not perform an upgrade to 11.10. I just wan
[16:13] <iceroot> evelyn: also (and that is the common case) upgrade will NEVER update package A if package A is installing a new Version of B
[16:13] <iceroot> evelyn: e.g. the metapackage for the kernel is A, the new kernel is B
[16:14] <iceroot> evelyn: dist-upgrade will also change dependencies
[16:14] <ShawnRisk> th_: thanks but this is the documents folder
[16:14] <s1> !es > LaFlakitaBnAsika
[16:14] <iceroot> evelyn: upgrade will show "package B has been hold back"
[16:15] <iceroot> evelyn: that is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. to keep your system with the latest security patches, always use dist-upgrade. remeber, dist-upgrade does NOT mean to update your ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10 or similar
[16:16] <th_> ShawnRisk: i don't think you can do that, you can however bookmark them in nautilus
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> th_: okay thanks
[16:17] <zee> Hi, what's the risk of continue using ubuntu 8.04LTS which is not supported anymore?
[16:17] <GinoMan> so I'm not sure why, but I tried to do a dist-upgrade from the upgrade tool.... and it left my system in an unusable state, so much so, that I had to download the disk to my windows partition, burn it, and upgrade from that
[16:17] <ShawnRisk> one more question, how do I start programs in minimised mode all the time not max mode?
[16:17] <luis_> running 11.04 on a HP Pavilion dv6000 laptop. AMD Turion 64x2, Nvidia GPU, 2gb mem. Broadcom Wireless.  Is it safe to upgrade to 11.10?
[16:17] <evelyn> iceroot: ok that all seems straightforward enough. just to confirm something, is the following true: 'aptitude dist-upgrade' == 'aptitude safe-upgrade' ==  'apt-get dist-upgrade'  ??
[16:17] <GinoMan> and it keeps choking on the fglrx packages
[16:18] <evelyn> sorry correction: 'aptitude dist-upgrade' == 'aptitude FULL-upgrade' ==  'apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:18] <martin__> does latest Ubuntu come with the game "Connect four" aka. "Four in a row"?
[16:19] <iceroot> evelyn: dont know, never using aptitude
[16:19] <martin__> evelyn: what's the problem with aptitude?
[16:20] <evelyn> iceroot: why dont you use aptitude? i have always been told to use it over apt-get... is one better than the other or is this a myth?
[16:20] <iceroot> evelyn: yes its better and its recommend by debian
[16:20] <idefix> hi, with what program can you remove sound from 3gp-movie files?
[16:20] <iceroot> evelyn: but i am fine with apt-get, so never touch a running system :)
[16:21] <idefix> and with what program can you rotate clockwise a 3gp-movie file?
[16:21] <GinoMan> I'm not sure why this happened but then when I went to install the fglrx packages, it choked on them and made it so I couldn't use unity again.... so then I went and downloaded fglrx from amd's website and installed it and it seems to work ok
[16:21] <evelyn> iceroot: ahh ok, i come from a background in debian so old habits stick... :)
[16:21] <llutz> evelyn: why should full-upgrade/dist-upgrade break more things than apt-get upgrade? in case of conflicts apt-get upgrade will leave things untouched while aptitude full-upgrade pulls new/changed dependencies.
[16:22] <GooeY> hi all. Could anyone help me resolve a wireless internet connectivity issue after installing ubuntu for the first time?
[16:22] <iceroot> evelyn: yes :) feel free to use aptitude, its much nicer e.g. when dependency-conflicts are happening
[16:23] <evelyn> llutz: i guess i say things may break because dist-upgrade by nature upgrades/removes more packages than a safe-upgrade does. though in reality im not sure how often that breaks systems anymore
[16:23] <PanArtur> GooeY: describe your problem
[16:23] <Reaper> ok ive dl ed the gnome pkg and I still cant get classic gnome on here.
[16:23] <Reaper> ! notunity
[16:24] <llutz> evelyn: for me: never since aptitude appeared in debian (using stable + unstable) ;)
[16:24] <GinoMan> I just reinstalled "chromium-browser" and "quassel"
[16:24] <orated> Do I need to reinstall the system if recovery mode is not working?
[16:25] <PanArtur> orated: what error do you get?
[16:25] <GooeY> Thanks. It says it can't activate the broadcom wireless driver (or card, can't remember). It gives me a log of the error. Someone told me I have to install the 4 files described in the error. Don't know how to do that.
[16:25] <orated> PanArtur: It says could not find whiptail. Cannot enter recovery mode
[16:26] <evelyn> martin__: if zou want connect four search for "four-in-a-row" in ubuntu software centre. i see it in mine, not sure if its installed in 11.10 by default
[16:26] <PanArtur> GooeY: go to synaptic or software center and search for them
[16:26] <GinoMan> but I don't think aptitude will let me install any of the 3D stuff unless I install the errant fglrx packages
[16:26] <GinoMan> does anyone know if anyone else has had problems with fglrx?
[16:27] <GooeY> PanArthur, I have the files. The error says "can't fetch http...." so I just downloaded those.
[16:27] <orated> PanArtur: But I can see whiptail package to be installed. It shows that error and drops to prompt
[16:27] <luis_> any suggestions?
[16:27] <s1> nicofs: could you state the issue ,  and what card is it Run / sudo lshw -C Network
[16:28] <PanArtur> GooeY: can you connect to wireless?
[16:28] <intok> 11.04, how do I transcode a .wmv file into a dvd.iso file?
[16:28] <PanArtur> orated: pastebin your /etc/hosts
[16:28] <GooeY> no, i have no internet connection, wired doesn't work either
[16:28] <orated> PanArtur: /etc/hosts ? for recovery mode?
[16:29] <martin__> ecolitan: I got it by installing "gnome-games", but I don't seem to have any "Network Game" option - do you know why?
[16:29] <martin__> I know I used to have that
[16:29] <newuser2> Installing another desktop environment decided to go and change my grub bootloader splash screen, how do I revert it back to how it was when I installed ubuntu?
[16:30] <s1> GooeY: which Brodcom model , i know i have mine working.
[16:30] <martian> If I just enabled my eth1 by adding it to my /etc/network/interfaces, how can I enable it without restarting?
[16:30] <PanArtur> orated: have you got deborphan installed?
[16:30] <heyitseric> man oh man squid is giving me all kinds of a hard time today
[16:30] <nicofs> s1: the issue is that all of my connections - be it LAN or wifi - do not work (reliably). I constantly loose connections or can't establish them in the first place, have to to dhclient manually - and just now i could ping google.com right until the moment when i tried to open google in a browser, which let ping return could not find... until i did dhclient again... it's all completely nuts...
[16:30] <GooeY> S1, let me find out
[16:30] <Rainy-day> In 11.04 unity, ctrl-u shortcut does not work in terminal.. how can I turn it on?
[16:31] <orated> PanArtur: No
[16:31] <Bragex9> ubuntu freezes during startup. Right after the ubunto logo shows up. Is there a way to start in like e.g a safe mode or recovery mode?
[16:31] <yagoo> Bragex9, there should be a recovery mode in grub menu? tsk tsk
[16:31] <zorobabel> in grub menu at boot-up
[16:31] <zorobabel> default it's the second option
[16:32] <Bragex9> how do I get to the grub menu?
[16:32] <Rainy-day> Err, never mind, I was hitting the stupid thinkpad Fn key
[16:32] <yagoo> omg
[16:32] <orated> PanArtur: Priority - optional. Do you want me to install it?
[16:32] <heyitseric> the grub menu is the first thing youll see when booting up
[16:32] <yagoo> Bragex9, grub is a bootloader for linux.. figure "Boot".
[16:32] <zorobabel> when you boot up, is there a pink screen where you choose your OS?
[16:32] <GooeY> Broadcom 440x
[16:32] <newuser2> that might not be true if it's a linux-only install not sure though
[16:32] <troll> someone know where i can set a system wide proxy on the new ubuntu?
[16:32] <Guest77764> is it even possible?
[16:33] <PanArtur> orated:  no, could you tell me, where your boot stops?
[16:33] <Bragex9> zorobabel: no pink screen to choose os. There is no menu there... It just starts
[16:33] <zorobabel> oh...
[16:34] <Guest77764> is it possible to set a system wide socks5 proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[16:34] <yagoo> Bragex9, edit /etc/default/grub .. have a value for the timeout.. then update-grub2
[16:34] <yagoo> Bragex9, (and uncomment as necessary)
[16:34] <Guest77764> is it possible to set a system wide socks5 proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[16:34] <zorobabel> yagoo, I think he's going to need a step-by-step guide for that
[16:34] <yagoo> (uncomment means remove # at the start of the line)
[16:35] <Narc> Hi everyone. Anyone using Gnome Shell on Oneiric can tell me what's the best PPA/way to get gnome-shell-extensions ? Thanks.
[16:35] <yagoo> zorobabel, that's 2 steps
[16:35] <Bragex9> yagoo: but I can't even start the computer to do those commands...
[16:35] <orated> PanArtur: Sure. Ubuntu boots fine in normal mode. But in recovery mode, it loads the kernel and other things remaining in the black screen and stops with whiptail message that it cannot find whiptail, cannot run recovery mode and drops to prompt. Usually, it goes to a blue screen with a menu box giving options like drop to root, fix missing packages, netroot and such but it doesn't show that up
[16:36] <PanArtur> orated: maybe you are missing some path in your /etc/profile
[16:36] <s1> nicofs: check if DHCP enabled method automaticallyin Network Manager .
[16:37] <orated> PanArtur: http://paste.ubuntu.com/715270/
[16:37] <Bragex9> yagoo: ctrl alt f1 does not work....
[16:37] <prouter> Please help, gnome terminal bell is not working
[16:37] <doodlewolfdude> does anyone have any knoledge as to why my newly updated 11.10 instalation is eating up my entire processing power with find processes?
[16:37] <orated> System recovery mode option in grub is not working. How can I fix it?
[16:37] <nicofs> s1: it is...
[16:38] <prouter> I also dont get the ubuntu log in jingle, I assume the problem is connected
[16:38] <PanArtur> orated: enter in terminal whereis whiptail
[16:38] <orated> PanArtur: whiptail: /usr/bin/whiptail /usr/share/man/man1/whiptail.1.gz
[16:38] <Guest77764> is it possible to set a system wide socks5 proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[16:39] <orated> PanArtur: Its a fresh install, no upgrades
[16:39] <mistercece> !list
[16:39] <Syd23> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu 11.10
[16:39] <Guest77764> is it possible to set a system wide socks5 proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[16:40] <Guest77764> is it possible to set a system wide socks5 proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[16:40] <newuser2> Syd23: if you have an 11.10 install disc it should be very easy
[16:40] <Syd23> newuser2..nope..i upgraded it from 11.14
[16:40] <Syd23> newuser2 *11.04
[16:41] <Guest77764> is it possible to set a system wide socks5 proxy in ubuntu 11.10
[16:41] <yagoo> Guest17604, probably for a desktop type like gnome or kde.. then gnome-specific or kde-specific applications would need to have hteir proxy set to "system" choice..
[16:41] <yagoo> Guest77764, ^
[16:42] <Guest77764> yagoo its unity
[16:42] <s1> nicofs: okay .. IPv4 or 6
[16:42] <Guest77764> ipv4
[16:42] <nicofs> s1: v4
[16:43] <doodlewolfdude> screw it
[16:43] <yagoo> Guest77764, um.. if the application doesn't have a proxy option, then um no.. it won't use proxy (unless you setup a special server that does a transparent proxy)
[16:43] <micutz> hello
[16:43] <nachow> sup
[16:43] <prouter> yo
[16:43] <s1> nicofs: okay , then check if 6 is ignored.
[16:43] <micutz> i have 1 problem
[16:44] <Guest77764> LOL ubuntu is so freakin done -.-
[16:44] <s1> GooeY: what is the issue with that card ..
[16:44] <prouter> Please help I have no login jingle
[16:44] <Guest77764> im getting backtrack or sth that actually still works
[16:44] <heyitseric> Bragex9, reboot, as soon as it turns on click on the esc key then F11 for system recovery. try this
[16:44] <PanArtur> orated: could you install dialog?
[16:45] <nachow> micutz: what's going on buddy ? what's the problem ?
[16:46] <Guest77764> you know any other OS where i can set a system wide proxy?
[16:46] <nicofs> s1: in nm settings it's ignored...
[16:46] <micutz> i don't know what to do to make my ubuntu 11.10 to work
[16:46] <Bragex9> heyitseric: ok. I will give it a try
[16:46] <orated> PanArtur: Umm ok. Do you find any thing missing in the paste bin linked?
[16:46] <newuser2> micutz: what's wrong with it?
[16:47] <yagoo> Guest77764, it's not an OS thing necessarily.
[16:47] <Guest77764> micutz u need a big hammer
[16:47] <micutz> my sistem it freezez when the login screen should apear
[16:47] <yagoo> micutz, u using nvidia or nouveau?
[16:48] <nachow> micutz, have you changed you'r xorg config file ?
[16:48] <micutz> yagoo i have a gigabyte hd 6850 video card
[16:48] <under> How can I share my BroadBand connection via WiFI?
[16:49] <yagoo> micutz, that sounds like ati
[16:49] <PanArtur> orated: could you add this into your /etc/profile at the beginning http://goo.gl/sLw8D
[16:49] <micutz> yep
[16:49] <micutz> yes yagoo is ati
[16:49] <newuser2> under, do you mean to everyone or just people with a password?
[16:49] <micutz> but with 11.04 i don't have this problem
[16:49] <Guest77764> yagoo i need to connect a program (i cant config proxy there) through the tor network
[16:49] <dschlittler1> How do you enable window transparency in Xubuntu 11.10?
[16:50] <Guest77764> yagoo i need to connect a program (i cant config proxy there) through the tor network but i dont know where i can set a system wide socks 5
[16:50] <under> newuser2, it's the same. i did but a wifi client has not internet access
[16:50] <dschlittler1> I have XFCE 4.8.
[16:50] <s1> nicofs: okay , from this point i'd go and check if i got the right driver & firmware for the card.
[16:50] <arand> under: Create a new wireless network, (add some security,) and check the "share with..." tick box
[16:50] <zee> Hi, what's risk of continue using Ubuntu 8.04LTS which is not supported anymore?
[16:51] <s1> nicofs: is it a Broadcom ..
[16:51] <Guest77764> yagoo i need to connect a program (i cant config proxy there) through the tor network but i dont know where i can set a system wide socks 5
[16:51] <arand> under: This assuming the broadband is wired and you're relaying to wireless.
[16:51] <nicofs> s1: how could i do that? lsmod returns a few entries that seem to reflect my wlan chip... (Atheros AR9285)
[16:51] <under> arand, the broadband is wireless (usb umts connection)
[16:51] <Polah> zee: It'll be supported until 2013 for the server edition. For the desktop version thought you won't get any security updates and it's far behind on updates on other packages most likely.
[16:52] <dschlittler1> How do you enable window transparency in Xubuntu 11.10? For Panels, etc...
[16:52] <yagoo> Guest77764, i already said in braces about a "Transparent" proxy server. You'll need to do some homework. This transparent proxy (would be a middle point) to help unconfigured clients.. I can't elaborate more.. there must be X ways of doing this..
[16:52] <arand> under: Or rather, that they are separate in some way, so if the broadband doesn't use the standard wireless card it's possible to relay it.
[16:52] <yagoo> Guest77764, also this transparent middle point server would be running on the local machine.. you'll need to somehow redirect your client's request to this transparent proxy..
[16:53] <sara> ciao
[16:54] <under> arand, yes, the broadband uses umts (so a usb key) and i share it with a integrated wifi card (is a laptop) and the connection bewteen my laptop and a wifi client work but internet doesnt work on the client. may I set ip on the wifi client?
[16:54] <zorobabel> 2d is running excellently on my netbook
[16:54] <orated> PanArtur: Ok. Done. Do you want me to install dialog?
[16:54] <Guest77764> yagoo well you proberply know a working way right know while i have to do hours of google to find a unergonomic one
[16:54] <Guest77764> yagoo sugest one
[16:55] <zee> Polah: what is the risk of continue using the desktop version? Worse case scenario.
[16:55] <dschlittler1> How do you enable window transparency in Xubuntu 11.10?
[16:56] <PanArtur> orated: no, you could reboot now
[16:56] <arand> under: I think this should be the basic steps: https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/
[16:56] <orated> PanArtur: But what I could not understand that immediately after fresh install this error in recovery mode was observed. And the media, image file everything was perfect
[16:56] <PanArtur> orated: and check if it work
[16:56] <Guest77764> dschlittler install compiz-config manager
[16:57] <tomreyn> mneptok: thanks for your help earlier. i'm up an running now.
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[16:57] <Polah> zee: Your system is attacked due to an unpatched vulnerability. More likely though, you fall further and further behind on program updates, already being ~3 years behind
[16:57] <under> arand, is what i did exaclty
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[16:58] <Bragex9> heyitseric: I did what you said and managed to get into a virtual console. What should I do next? My problem with startup hangup started after I had upgraded the nvidia driver from inside unity...
[16:58] <orated> PanArtur: Ok, brb
[16:58] <Reaper> lol
[16:58] <Guest77764> come on guys... its not that hard... tell me a way how to install a system wide proxy
[16:58] <zee> Polah : thanks for the info
[16:59] <Migaaresno> How is the virtual file system on ubuntu server called? I need some information stored on it, but the server is down.
[16:59] <Migaaresno> Guest77764: Is there not a proxy program?
[16:59] <Bragex9> anyone... how do I remove the current nvidia driver and install a new one from virtual console?
[17:00] <Guest77764> Migaaresna in the newer ubuntus it seems no...
[17:00] <heyitseric> Bragex9,  this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/37590/nvidia-drivers-not-working-after-upgrade-why-can-i-only-see-terminal
[17:00] <Bragex9> heyitseric: ok, thanks
[17:01] <usuari2> hola
[17:01] <Harmonium> Is there a channel for Unity support?
 not in the newer ubuntu versions it seems... u know how to install one?
[17:01] <usuari2> uops,
[17:01] <Migaaresno> Guest77764: That is odd. Have you tried synaptic for a program called "Network proxy"?
[17:01] <newuser2> So no-one knows how to change my bootloader back...? Damn Xfce.
[17:01] <itbcn8> Can you still wubi install 10.04?
[17:01] <s1> nicofs: for a star Run/  sudo lshw -C network .. Run/ ifconfig  , and paste the output if can
 nah just in the software center... trying now
[17:02] <PanArtur> newuser2: describe your problem
[17:02] <under> arand, is what i did exaclty
[17:02] <yagoo> Bragex9, if u use the nvidia driver.. did u blacklist nouveau? (add "blacklist nouveau" at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  -- without the quotes)
[17:02] <zee> Polah : what could happen if the system is attacked? what are the risks?
[17:03] <under> arand, in the umts broadband tab i cannot tick 'share with other0
[17:03] <newuser2> I boot the computer and the GRUB bootloader uses a splash image with Debian written on it and some green and mostly black etc.
 result is a couple of programs but i cant tell if they do what i need sry
[17:03] <Polah> zee: You could lose your data, have personal information stolen and suchlike.
[17:03] <arand> under: It's just for the ad-hoc network that should be necessary
[17:04] <Migaaresno> Guest77764: Run this in terminal: gnome-network-properties
[17:04] <Harmonium>  Is there a support channel for Unity?
[17:04] <Bragex9> yagoo: no, this is way over my head. I am at the "sudo apt-get update" competence level
[17:04] <PanArtur> newuser2: and you want ?
[17:04] <zee> Polah : Noted. Thanks for the tip.
 command not found -.-
[17:05] <newuser2> PanArtur, the default that came with the Ubuntu install, a plain purple background
[17:05] <Bragex9> yagoo: what does blacklist nouveau do?
[17:05] <Migaaresno> Guest77764: Does it give a apt-get command?
[17:05] <under> arand, so what have i to do?
[17:05] <arand> under: I do not know I'm afraid.
[17:05] <PanArtur> newuser2: boot into ubuntu, open terminal and enter sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[17:05] <heyitseric> Harmonium, try #unity3d
[17:06] <Guest77764> gnome-network-admin - GNOME Network Administration Tool
[17:06] <Guest77764> does it help?
[17:06] <Harmonium> heyitseric: thanks!
[17:06] <Migaaresno> Guest77764: Install it and try to run the command again?
[17:06] <itbcn8> Bragex9: do you know if your graphics card is nvidia?
[17:07] <Jordan_U> newuser2: Do *not* run grub-install /dev/sda1
[17:07] <vector> yeah
[17:07] <vector> don't want it on partition
[17:07] <PanArtur> oouch ... my mistake
[17:07] <Bragex9> itbcn8: yes it is nvidia. It worked before, but got messed up after upgrading to 11.10
[17:07] <Mathuin_> Is there a problem with usernames longer than eight characters?  When I use 'ps', I see the uid (1001) instead of the username.
[17:07] <newuser2> don't worry, I haven't done anything
[17:07] <PanArtur> should be grub-install /dev/sda
[17:07] <yagoo> Bragex9, do you know the difference between "nvidia" and "nouveau" x drivers?
[17:07] <Jordan_U> PanArtur: grub should almost never be installed to a PBR.
 no good
[17:08] <Bragex9> yagoo: no, do not know the difference
[17:08] <PanArtur> Jordan_U: yes i know.... I have pres enter tooooo fast
[17:08] <newuser2> and you're sure this won't screw with the entries already present and everything will be fine?
[17:08] <Jordan_U> newuser2: Are you using both Ubuntu and Debian?
[17:09] <PanArtur> newuser2: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[17:09] <Migaaresno> Guest77764: Im sorry. But I am all out of idears. I cant help you.
[17:09] <itbcn8> Bragex9: So you need to open a file called blacklist and add  nouveau
[17:09] <Guest77764> so someone know a OS where i can configure a global proxy
[17:09] <Guest77764> ubuntu is so done -.-
[17:09] <Jordan_U> !ot | Guest77764
[17:10] <vector> Guest77764:  just use iptables
[17:10] <Guest77764> how?????
[17:10] <Bragex9> itbcn8: ok. I will check it up
[17:10] <vector> redirect outbound connections on port 80 to a transparent proxy
[17:10] <Guest77764> all i know there was a tool in 1.10 and now its gone -.-
[17:10] <Guest77764> all i know there was a tool in 7.10 and now its gone -.-
[17:11] <wh1zz0> exit
[17:11] <Pici> Guest77764: 7.10 was four years ago.
[17:11] <s1> Guest77764: you can from Network setting.
[17:11] <Migaaresno> Good progress has been made in 4 years.
[17:11] <orated> PanArtur: Back. No change, still the same error with and without the change to /etc/profile
[17:11] <Guest77764> s1 hooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww?????
[17:11] <Guest77764> $ network settings
[17:11] <Guest77764> network: command not found
[17:12] <newuser2> Jordan_U, just Ubuntu, PanArtur, yes I see the command clearly with NO a at the end, thanks
[17:12] <Bragex9> itbcn8: what exactly shall I add to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf?
[17:12] <s1> 7.10 ! i can't rememmber anything there.
[17:12] <itbcn8> Bragex9: I am on my phone so cant type too much, but you cd to the file path and add a line
[17:12] <s1> !7.10
[17:12] <PanArtur> orated: i'm out of ideas
[17:13] <Guest77764> done works love you
[17:13] <Bragex9> itbcn8: ok. Thanks
[17:13] <s1> Guest77764: am on 11.10 and i see the settings there.
[17:14] <PanArtur> orated: you could sudo aptitude reinstall whiptail
[17:14] <orated> PanArtur: Did that
[17:14] <newuser2> trying the command now, see you after the restart
[17:14] <Guest77764> s1 i found it but i cant manage to activate them for some reason
[17:14] <newuser2> *sorry I mean NO 1 at at the end
[17:14] <orated> PanArtur: http://imagebin.org/180177
[17:14] <newuser2> of course it has an a
[17:14] <PanArtur> newuser2: : enter this command without 1 at the end
[17:14] <SharkMonkey> I removed pulseaudio and everything seems to work really well. And I seem to use less cpu when playing audio.
[17:15] <SharkMonkey> What's the point of pulseaudio?
[17:15] <ppcblaster> Noob here, I downloaded a Crossoffice .bin file it is in the "Downloads" folder, what do I do to install it? Do I need terminal or is there another way? If using terminal how do I get to downloads folser and install it?
[17:15] <SharkMonkey> I can play multiple mp3 files. and a game at the same time
[17:15] <ppcblaster> folder
[17:15] <SharkMonkey> And hear everything
[17:16] <orated> PanArtur: I get the same message always - http://imagebin.org/180177
[17:16] <heyitseric> ppcblaster: follow instructions here http://www.digitalfacts.net/2011/04/how-to-install-bin-file-in-ubuntu.html
[17:17] <ppcblaster> thanks
[17:17] <PanArtur> orated: have you got friendly-recovery installed?
[17:17] <imgx64> ppcblaster: open terminal, then run the following commands (without the double quotes, of course), and replace file.bin with the name of the file: "cd Downloads" then "chmod +x file.bin" then "./file.bin"
[17:18] <ppcblaster> I tried using the cd downloads and it failed
[17:18] <Mathuin_> Another question: is there a way to get /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer back in oneiric?
[17:18] <ppcblaster> can't get to folder in terminal
[17:18] <imgx64> Linux is case sensitive. "downloads" is not the same as "Downloads"
[17:18] <orated> PanArtur: Yes, friendly-recovery is already the newest version.
[17:18] <vector> ppcblaster: it's case-sensitive so make sure you do "cd Downloads" and not "cd downloads"
[17:18] <ppcblaster> ok
[17:18] <vector> haha... imgx64 beat me to it
[17:18]  * cptahab313 says tuff turd
[17:19] <ppcblaster> what is the path to Downloads folset I need to type into terminal?
[17:19] <ppcblaster> folder
[17:19] <vector> ppcblaster:  use  ~/Downloads
[17:19] <imgx64> ppcblaster: it's "~/Downloads", "~" is the home folder".
[17:19] <wh1zz0> ..
[17:19] <wh1zz0> :)
[17:20] <orated> PanArtur: Thanks for your time
[17:20] <ppcblaster> ~ ?
[17:20] <newuser2> well that didn't actually do anything thanks though
[17:20] <vector> ppcblaster: shit + the key left of the 1
[17:20] <vector> er
[17:20] <vector> SHIFT
[17:20] <vector> sorry
[17:20] <FloodBot1> vector: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <newuser2> lol
[17:20] <vector> heheh
[17:21] <imgx64> ppcblaster: it's the home folder. Try running "echo ~" and see for yourself.
[17:21] <PanArtur> orated: ls -la /usr/bin/whiptail
[17:22] <ppcblaster> thanks
[17:22] <orated> PanArtur: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22120 2011-06-27 16:33 /usr/bin/whiptail
[17:24] <bytesaber_work> any favorite NAS brand?
[17:24] <tensorpudding> this isn't the proper channel for polls
[17:24] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:  theres dozens of them, for every size/budget/need
[17:24] <bytesaber_work> dr_willis, $1000 or less
[17:24] <vector> I would think in this chan you'd be looking to make one with ubuntu :)
[17:24] <linxeh> bytesaber_work: for home or small office, the hp microserver n36l is unbeatable value atm
[17:25] <ardithoxha> guys, how to increase brighness on 10.10?
[17:25] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:  that would be most of them., it depends on your needs.
[17:25] <ardithoxha> guys, how to increase brighness on 10.10?
[17:25] <dr_willis> not really OT for here either. :)
[17:25] <tomreyn> how can i edit desktop themes on 10.10?
[17:25] <dr_willis> seen several NAS reviews at tomshardware. so id say check there.
[17:25] <dr_willis> tomreyn:  they would be gnome-3 themes. and at this time. its a littel tricky making gnome-3 themes.
[17:26] <Mrokii> Hello. How do I add a new applet to Unitys' top-panel? I tried alt-rightclick (which works in classic), but that doesn't work in Unity as it seems.
[17:26] <bytesaber_work> looking to drop off a NAS on the other end of an openvpn, at a buddies house.   rsync data as an offsite backup.  While he'll still get readonly access.    I'm picturing something samba and network mounted and rsyncing i guess.
[17:26] <s1> 7.10 ! i can't rememmber anything there. sudo lshw -C network fields! .. anyhow don't you think it's time for an Upgrade! :-)
[17:26] <dr_willis> tomreyn:  install the gnome tweak tool to get access to some extra settings
[17:26] <tomreyn> thanks dr_willis
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> tomreyn: it's called advanced settings
[17:26] <linxeh> bytesaber_work: we use an old dell workstation with 2x2TB disks for that, running a bare ubuntu install. most things will work
[17:27] <AndroidLoverInSF> will kde 4.7 run alright on 10.10?  i want to upgrade my kde on 10.10 if its possible?
[17:27] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:   i have seen stand alone nas that can do that
[17:27] <tomreyn> MonkeyDust: what's called "advanced settings"?
[17:27] <sabayon> hello world !
[17:27] <dr_willis> tomreyn:  the gnome tweak tool is called 'advanced settings' in the menus
[17:27] <organiks> how much longer for support on 10.10
[17:27] <bytesaber_work> linxeh, dr_willis ya, just going on the idea that i don't need to depend on him to admin anything.   just drop off and latch onto his network.
[17:27] <heyitseric> ! 10.10
[17:27] <Mathuin_> Okay, so no takers on nine-character usernames or recovering /dev/dsp?
[17:27] <bytesaber_work> and in case i have to go somewhere else, i can do the same with a new friend.
[17:27] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:  saw a review of a NAS that could do that the other day. i think it was a new one by WD.
[17:28] <heyitseric> well that was useless
[17:28] <Pici> organiks: Its 18 months of support, so it'll be going into EOL around the time that 12.04 is released.
[17:28] <linxeh> bytesaber_work: thats the same requirement as me. I set the box up locally, and then dropped it off
[17:28] <linxeh> bytesaber_work: I can ssh in and admin it remotely
[17:28] <organiks> i might just downgrade to that 11.10 is giving me too much probs
[17:28] <linxeh> bytesaber_work: I also have a couple of the n36l microservers I mentioned, they are really good too
[17:28] <organiks> thnx
[17:29] <orated> PanArtur: I found this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FriendlyRecoverySpec ..
[17:29] <sabayon> i cannot automount floppy as user but i can as root . why _ thx
[17:29] <dr_willis> sabayon:  user is not in the proper group, would be my guess.. and ive no idea what group they need to be in.
[17:29] <lahwran> how would I launch a screen session as a different user or attach to a different user's screen session? switching to that user and doing screen -r returns the error "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check."
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> sabayon: in sabayon or in ubuntu?
[17:29] <dr_willis> sabayon:  or you could make a fstab entry for the floppy with the users option
[17:29] <PanArtur> orated: I'm looking at this script now
[17:29] <sabayon> ubuntu
[17:30] <newuser2> if I remove a package from the ubuntu software center, will it warn me if anything else has it as a dependency?
[17:30] <guntbert> newuser2: yes
[17:30] <sabayon> it is present in fstab
[17:30] <Polah> dr_willis, sabayon: The floppy group, maybe?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> sabayon: type cat /etc/fstab|pastebinit and paste it here, so we can see
[17:31] <sabayon> ok
[17:31] <yagoo> paste the url that is.
[17:31] <mr__> ppcblaster
[17:31] <yagoo> MonkeyDust, dont let him paste the contents of files..
[17:31] <yagoo> lol
[17:32] <yagoo> Polah, floppy? now that's old skool! Wtf is a floppy?
[17:32] <sabayon> proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
[17:32] <sabayon> UUID=5ad009a9-7f79-4359-9dec-40922c52baba /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[17:32] <sabayon> /dev/sda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:32] <sabayon> /dev/fd0u1440   /media/floppy0    auto    users,rw,noauto,exec    0     0
[17:32] <FloodBot1> sabayon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <yagoo> MonkeyDust, good one smartass.
[17:32] <sabayon> ok
[17:32] <yagoo> MonkeyDust, it's ur fault.. you tell them to paste the URL..
[17:32] <yagoo> Now u see MonkeyDust.
[17:33] <sharkus> hello all. Quick question, trying to set grub menu order (I want Windows 7 to be default), but does not seem to be sticking (using StartUp-Manager) on 11.10
[17:33] <Polah> yagoo: I think it's that thing where you get a pencil and wave it up and down so it looks like it's bending and flopping around.
[17:33] <sharkus> I installed Windows 7 first, then 11.10.
[17:33] <Polah> yagoo: cdrom groups lets people mount CDs right, so why not the floppy group for floppies?
[17:33] <sharkus> any other grub / boot loader options I need to look at on how to get this to work.
[17:33] <dr_willis> sharkus:  rename/number the files in /etc/grub.d/##_filenames   so the   osprober is befor the others...
[17:33] <wh1zz0> wh1zz0
[17:34] <newuser2> OK, problem is fixed, I just removed desktop-base
[17:34] <dr_willis> sharkus:  rename/number /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to be like 09_os-prober
[17:34] <dr_willis> sharkus:  then rerun sudo update-grub
[17:34] <yagoo> sharkus, edit /etc/default/grub  for _DEFAULT=  (numbering starts from 0)-- then update-grub2
[17:34] <yagoo> dr_willis, that's pretty much useless..
[17:34] <dr_willis> problem with setting the "DEFAULT" variable. is it could change if new kernels come out.
[17:34] <share> I'm gonna upgrade to LTS
[17:34] <yagoo> dr_willis, and its' update-grub2.
[17:34] <dr_willis> yagoo:  i find defaults useless..
[17:35] <sabayon> http://pastebin.com/43CeX6Ft
[17:35] <share> in 6 months
[17:35] <share> .
[17:35] <dr_willis> and update-grub and  updattee-grub2 were basically one calling the other.
[17:35] <yagoo> dr_willis, ya i saw this debate.. but it's much easier to edit /etc/default/grub.. also those config files can be updated with apt-get
[17:36] <sharkus> thanks, just following rename suggestions now
[17:36] <dr_willis> ive had the default get changed so the BEST way would be to usedd the 'saved' option
[17:36] <dr_willis> but i add mine to the 40_custome and dont even use os-prober normally
[17:36] <yagoo> sharkus, /etc/defaul/grub is documented.. i dont suggest renaming those script files..
[17:37] <dr_willis> !grub2
[17:37] <sabayon> ?
[17:37] <benjamin_> hi
[17:37] <dr_willis> grub2 is very well documented sharkus  - worth reading up on.
[17:37] <sharkus> fan-blooming-tastic, Windows 7 now topmost and thus default option. Thanks :-)
[17:37] <dr_willis> im not even sure that startup-manager tool even works properly in 11.10, it had issues in 11.04 i recall.
[17:38]  * yagoo oh no.. not a Windows default boot
[17:38] <yagoo> pff
[17:38] <sharkus> I've got the Grub2 page on help.ubuntu open, so will have a read, am just impatient, well, wifey is, it's her machine
[17:38] <yagoo> dr_willis, congratulations on having Windows as a Default Boot. Congratulations.
[17:38] <PanArtur> orated:  i'm not too good in bash script, but I thint that the problem is at the beginning of recovery-menu
[17:38] <yagoo> pff
[17:38] <yagoo> kids..
[17:38] <sabayon> (*(
[17:38] <sharkus> yeah, I know, her HD died the other night (thanks to all for the help on that) got a new one, stuck W7 and 11.10 on it, will wean her off W7
[17:38] <dr_willis> yagoo:  actually i just hit F# to boot my linux hd.. or windows hd.. i dont even  use grub to boot windows..
[17:39] <jason___> How can I put an ISO on a flash drive without using startup disk creator?
[17:39] <sharkus> once again, thank you all, fantastic help <hands out virtual beverages to all>
[17:39] <sharkus> ttfn
[17:39] <benjamin_> if you move the gnome3 (fallback mode) top panel away you can see a menu bar at the top (like in windows). how to remove that...
[17:39] <dr_willis> jason___:  11.10 can use the 'dd' command to make a bootable flash from the iso file.
[17:40] <oOze> jason___, unetbootin or dd
[17:40] <dr_willis> jason___:  or other image to flash tools.
[17:40] <jason___> dr_willis: oh nice! I take it previous versions could not? Because I recall trying to DD an ISO and it failed...
[17:40] <dr_willis> jason___:  its a new feature in 11.10
[17:40] <jason___> dr_willis: nice.
[17:40] <lapion> telepathy-butterfly does not always stop when exiting empathy.. when starting empathy again, have to manually kill telepathy-butterfly
[17:40] <jason___> dr_willis: do you know if I can break an ISO into 2 sections so I can use two CDs instead of 1 DVD? I dont think the system I'm dealing with USB boots and it has no DVD drive. Severe pickle. :/
[17:41] <dr_willis> jason___:  Huh? why do you need to fit a cd onto 2 cds?
[17:41] <Guest77764> guys i hate you all =)
[17:41] <jason___> dr_willis: the PPC Ubuntu image is oversized @ nearly 750MB.
[17:41] <dr_willis> You can setup a flash drive to have a menu to boot differnt isos
[17:41] <jason___> dr_willis: I have no DVD drive and this system won't USB boot.
[17:41] <jason___> dr_willis: this is an old mac system or else I could break it open and swap parts the wya I want :
[17:41] <jason___> :/
[17:41] <dr_willis> no idea on PPC.  - but with intel/grub2 it can boot iso files.
[17:42] <Polah> dr_willis; You can add a few lines to your GRUB configuration to boot ISOs without requiring a CD or USB.
[17:42] <jason___> dr_willis: well 11.10 has a community PPC port... so I would think it'd be the same considering grub2
[17:42] <Polah> jason:  You can add a few lines to your GRUB configuration to boot ISOs without requiring a CD or USB.
[17:42] <dr_willis> Polah:  yes.. i do that normally
[17:42] <dr_willis> jason___:  not sure grub2 works on ppc.
[17:42] <Polah> dr_willis: Yeah, mean to send it to jason_. My bad
[17:42] <jason___> dr_willis: gahhh youre right. It's yaboot.
[17:42] <lapion> jason___, the trick is to copy the contents of the iso image to a usb stick..
[17:42] <jason___> lapion: no, that's the easy part.
[17:42] <jason___> lapion: the hard part is getting a box with a 750mb image, yet no DVD and no usb boot avaailble
[17:43] <dr_willis> no idea  if the dd trick works with ppc either
[17:43] <jason___> dr_willis: I think DD would be agnostic. ISO is ISO.
[17:43] <jason___> lapion: my only option is CD, and CD is limited @ 750mb
[17:44] <dr_willis> some of he ubuntu beta iso's were larger then a single also...
[17:44] <lapion> jason___, force burn on a cd, the resulting cd will boot, as soon as the kernel and ramdisk image loaded extract the cd, the system will automatically detec the usb stick as the default installation media
[17:44] <jason___> lapion: how do I force burn when it wont le tme burn due to being too small?
[17:44] <lapion> s/extract/eject/
[17:44] <orated> PanArtur: No problem. I think ncurses-based menu requires whiptail or something like that. Anyway, thanks a lot for your time.
[17:45] <jimmy8888> hi does someone know how to change the launcher icon size in unity 2d (11.10) ?
[17:45] <dr_willis> jimmy8888:  theres a unity-2d tweak tool out (not offically supported)
[17:45] <dr_willis> but im not sure what all it can do
[17:45] <lapion> cdrecord -overburn -v youriso.iso
[17:45] <lapion> jason___,
[17:46] <Ansikt> Hey all!
[17:46] <sabayon> (*(
[17:46] <Ansikt> Does anyone know of a utility to check a dvd drive or cd drive's health?
[17:46] <heyitseric> disk utility
[17:46] <sabayon> gparted
[17:46] <dr_willis> cant recall ever seeing such a tool  for a cd/dvd.
[17:46] <PanArtur> orated:  yes, enter in terminal whereis frienly-recover
[17:47] <lapion> jason___, remember to have all files on a usb stick, and ejecting the defect cd
[17:47] <PanArtur> orated: friendly-recover*
[17:47] <heyitseric> disk utility tells me that my dvd rom drive is working properly
[17:47] <jimmy8888> dr_willis: you mean this:http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/unity-2d-tweak-app-updated-for-11-10/ does not look like it has the option to resize icons or the width...
[17:49] <l_zero> hello can anyone help me with install ubuntu from server mirror ?
[17:49] <orated> PanArtur: friendly-recovery:
[17:49] <l_zero> i like to set manualy mirror archive but not know how to write corectly
[17:50] <eiriksvin> I got a question: what happened to the screensavers in 11.10?
[17:50] <sabayon> i cannot automount floppy as user but i can as root . why  ?
[17:50] <PanArtur> orated: whereis recovery-menu
[17:50] <moses> my keyboard is US inernational in ubuntu and my " key is sketchy whats a better keyboard to use?
[17:50] <orated> PanArtur: recovery-menu:
[17:50] <l_zero> who can help me with network install ?
[17:51] <eiriksvin> does compiz work with 11.10 2d?
[17:51] <sabayon> smba  ?
[17:51] <neo84> how to disable animations in 11.10
[17:51] <l_zero> no samba
[17:52] <l_zero> http://ftp.freepark.org
[17:52] <lapion> jason___, remember to also copy the hidden files from the image to the usb stick
[17:52] <PanArtur> orated: check what will happen if you enter in terminal /lib/recovery-mode/./recovery-menu
[17:52] <conntrack> anyone know how to disable ipv6 MLD in sysctl?
[17:52] <shantorn> would somwonw please help me solve this error? http://pastebin.com/X1g4w7zK
[17:52] <l_zero> i dont know how to wrie the path to install mirror
[17:52] <sabayon> how  _
 all you have to do is go to the ligin screen click on the little gear and switch to 2D
[17:53] <l_zero> sabayon, you can help me ?
[17:53] <eiriksvin> login screen heh
[17:53] <sabayon> what do you want to do ?
[17:53] <orated> PanArtur: ncurses-based menu which should usually appear in recovery mode shows up
[17:53] <orated> which usually*
[17:54] <heyitseric> eiriksvin, yes compiz will work
[17:54] <Bragex9> what is the command for renaming a file? Like if I want to rename x.conf to x.conf.bak
[17:54] <Pici> Bragex9: mv x.conf x.conf.bak
[17:54] <orated> PanArtur: But its a limited read-only menu
[17:54] <sabayon> l-zero   what do you want to do ?
[17:54] <Bragex9> thanks
[17:55] <l_zero> sabayon, you know this install step http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/unledqlc.png/
[17:55] <bhavesh> This is really weired.. I cannot log into GNOME Shell. even when I select GNOME in lightdm
[17:56] <bhavesh> it boots into gnome-session-fallback
[17:56] <PanArtur> orated: ps aux | grep whipnail
[17:56] <l_zero> set the install mirror to install ubuntu
[17:56] <mr__> k
[17:56] <sabayon> sorry . i don-t know
[17:56] <l_zero> how to write this for freepark.org
[17:56] <l_zero> :(
[17:57] <orated> PanArtur:       3442  0.0  0.0   4188   788 pts/1    S+   23:26   0:00 grep --color=auto whipnail
[17:57] <mr__> I tried installing crossover office demo and messed it all up I have a folder "cxoffice" how do I uninstall it and start over?
[17:59] <coilbucker> On my monitor, the login screen runs over the edge. It also does this when I use control alt f2. Does anyone know what file to modify to fix it?
[18:00] <PanArtur> orated:  which whipnail
[18:00] <phunyguy_> I have a PC here with options for ATI restricted drivers.  One says (post-release updates) and one doesnt.  None say recommended... which do I pick?
[18:00] <kirindave> I'm trying to configure the nvidia drivers for my system so that I can run my machine in discrete graphics mode (have an optimus)
[18:00] <kirindave> But it seems like after installing the nvidia package I still can't get it to use my discrete graphics card.
[18:01] <dr_willis> mr__:  installed how exactly? a .deb package?
[18:01] <vector> kirindave: optimus is not supported in linux like it is in windows.... there are things (bumblebee?) that you can use to switch to discrete though
[18:01] <kirindave> nvidia-xconfig is not on my system, so I dunno what else to try?
[18:01] <kirindave> vector:  I want to hot-wire on the discrete
[18:02] <phunyguy_> nevermind.  going to keep the curent driver
[18:02] <kirindave> vector, so I can use multiple monitors
[18:02] <shantorn> kirindave: this is what solved that same problem on my optimus laptop sudo apt-get
[18:02] <sabayon> l-zero maybe you have to type the ftp port
[18:02] <vector> kirindave: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/bumbleebee-brings-nvidia-optimus-gpu-switching-to-linux-users/
[18:02] <orated> PanArtur: Sorry, $ ps aux | grep whiptail  - 3579  0.0  0.0   4188   788 pts/1    S+   23:31   0:00 grep --color=auto whiptail. And, which whiptail  - /usr/bin/whiptail
[18:02] <kirindave> vector: I have ironhide working
[18:02] <kirindave> shantorn, apt-get what?
[18:03] <kirindave> vector, I want to go entirely to discrete and it seems that the nvidia driver isn't kicking in when I launch X.
[18:04] <kirindave> shantorn, ???
[18:04] <kirindave> What package provides nvidia-xconfig?
[18:04] <shantorn> kirindave: this might answer your question. http://askubuntu.com/questions/62671/cant-get-optimus-to-work-with-ironhide-on-an-asus-n53sn
[18:04] <Encoreguy> I need some help with my bluetooth
[18:04] <shantorn> i miss posted last time
[18:05] <PanArtur> orated:  could you edit /lib/recovery-mode/recovery-menu and remove ! in line if [ ! -x "$(which whiptail)" ]; then
[18:05] <HackeMate> does 11.10 have gnome?
[18:05] <heyitseric> 0_o
[18:05] <HackeMate> and how to disable the password manager
[18:05] <shantorn> to start apps with nvidia you have to start with optirun kirindave
[18:05] <kirindave> shantorn, that is not what I am trying to do
[18:05] <Encoreguy> Is anyone here to help?
[18:06] <kirindave> shantorn, I am trying to get X to run under the nvidia drivers entirely
[18:06] <shantorn> HackeMate: do you meen gnome-shell?
[18:06] <kirindave> Otherwise I cannot use multiple monitors.
[18:06] <shantorn> oh
[18:06] <HackeMate> gnome desktop
[18:06] <HackeMate> i read in somewhere 11.10 just comes with that new strange desktop
[18:06] <shantorn> thats odd mine does mu;tiple monitors on the intel card
[18:06] <kirindave> I wonder if this script is turning off my card right as I power up...
[18:06] <HackeMate> and i prefer gnome
[18:06] <heyitseric> gnome 3
[18:06] <kirindave> shantorn, seems to be a known bug with the newer lenovos.
[18:07] <coilbucker> Anybody know how to change the lightdm login screen and virtual terminal resolution?
[18:07] <heyitseric> Encoreguy,  ask your question
[18:07] <Encoreguy> Bluetooth help? anyone
[18:07] <HackeMate> I dont like gnome 3, how to get the normal gnome version
[18:08] <s1> !gnome2 | HackeMate
[18:08] <s1> !nounity
[18:09] <HackeMate> wow, uncredible
[18:09] <HackeMate> whats wrong with gnome2, it's ok
[18:09] <Zutara> meh
[18:09] <Zutara> Gnome 3 Looks cooler.
[18:09] <Polah> HackeMate: It's no longer under development.
[18:09] <SharkMonkey> Gnome 2 works cooler.
[18:10] <heyitseric> Encoreguy, we are all here to help but you need to ask a question
[18:10] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:10] <HackeMate> in gnome 2 at least i have menues to open my apps, not a bunch of icons that i didnt select
[18:10] <HackeMate> and i dont know what are they for
[18:10] <_trine> gnome 3 looks like a Microsoft derivative
[18:10] <_trine> and Unity
[18:10] <HackeMate> why imitate then
[18:11] <SharkMonkey> No it doesn't. I don't like it, but I would nto call it a microsoft derivative
[18:11] <Polah> _trine: Unity is a shell for GNOME3.
[18:11] <HackeMate> is gubuntu gnome2?
[18:11] <Polah> !ot | HackeMate, SharkMonkey, _trine
[18:11] <Pici> HackeMate, _trine: This is a support channel, not a 'complain about desktops channe', can we get back on-topic please?
[18:11] <_trine> Polah, yes I know I have to use it now
[18:11] <ubuntu_> hi, i want to know if i can preview music files on mouse hover in xubuntu 11.10
[18:11] <_trine> Pici, ok fair enough
[18:11] <Polah> HackeMate, probably not no. As I said before, GNOME2 is no longer under official development. There's a fork called "mate" but no guarantees on stability or functionality with Ubuntu.
[18:12] <ionelmc> how can i see what packages i have installed from a specific repository?
[18:12] <Polah> _trine: You don't HAVE to use anything.
[18:12] <_trine> Polah, no comment
[18:12] <orated> PanArtur: Sure about it? I mean its not != nor if (conditon != sometihng)
[18:12] <Encoreguy> any answers to my question
[18:12] <SharkMonkey> HackeMate, You might want to give xfce a shot instead.
[18:13] <Polah> Encoreguy, what was it?
[18:13] <HackeMate> i liked gnome, just that
[18:13] <coilbucker> Lxde or kde might be nice too.
[18:13] <IdleWarship> Something on my machine is doing a ton of uploading, and netstat -catnup doesn't list a PID or program name.  Should I be worried? Or at least annoyed?
[18:13] <Halabund> Looking at Empathy's description, it says "Instant messaging program supporting text, voice, video, file transfers
[18:13] <Halabund> and inter-application communication over many different protocols,
[18:13] <Halabund> including: AIM, MSN, Google Talk (Jabber/XMPP), Facebook, Yahoo!, Salut,
[18:13] <Halabund> Gadu-Gadu, Groupwise, ICQ and QQ."  But I just can't find how to add QQ accounts!  Does the latest Empathy not support QQ anymore?
[18:13] <Arcademan> May I ask what are the req and can I make a deb file?
[18:13] <Encoreguy> I must turn bluetooth off then back on at system startup for it to function
[18:13] <Pici> Arcademan: Can you provide a little more information on what you're trying to acheive?
[18:14] <IdleWarship> Halabund: There certainly doesn't seem to be an easy way for QQ...
[18:14] <Arcademan> I wrote a few xchat script and would like to post them to a repo :)
[18:14] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:14] <PanArtur> orated: if I have had same problem I'll delete all those lines http://goo.gl/8vgHo
[18:14] <svip> How do I enable RandR?
[18:14] <Phobophobia> I compiled and installed my own gcc as a test last week, and now it seems to have taken over the gcc command in terminal (to run the official gcc, I need to use gcc-4.6) -- How can I revert this?
[18:14] <shantorn> kir
[18:14] <s1> Encoreguy: check if rf device is blocked , Run/ sudo rfkill list
[18:15] <Halabund> IdleWarship, so it can't be solved by installing some extra libs?  I thought it *should* support QQ since the description of the program explicitly says so (in the software manager)
[18:15] <Pici> Arcademan: Take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide, you'll want to get them posted to your PPA.
[18:15] <shantorn> could someone please help me solve this package issue http://pastebin.com/X1g4w7zK
[18:16] <milen8204> Why my laptop can not detect other monitor
[18:16] <laci_> hi all! i'm using rsync to make backup from my home/user directory. I started it from terminal. It's running since 1,5 hours. when will end this process? i have only 34 GB used place in this directory. can i somehow see the steps of process?
[18:16] <milen8204> which is mlug in\
[18:16] <milen8204> ?
[18:16] <Arcademan> k ty Pici :)
[18:16] <x-767> Hi
[18:16] <x-767> All
[18:16] <Encoreguy> not blocked, it only happens at startup. then all is fine after I turn it off then back on
[18:16] <Encoreguy> more of an annoyance
[18:17] <Pici> shantorn: libcaribou-common doesn't appear to be in any of our repositories.  If that is from a PPA or elsewhere, it is conflicting with the already installed
[18:17] <Pici> 14:16:12 <milen8204> ?
[18:17] <Pici> milen8204: sorry, bad paste.
[18:17] <b0ot> Is there anyway I can get Ragel 6.6 for ubuntu 10.04?
[18:17] <Pici> shantorn: ...the already installed caribou package.
[18:17] <IdleWarship> Halabund: Your odds don't look good - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/697717
[18:18] <milen8204> Pici, I have plug in a Monitor in a my laptop and the laptop can not detect it
[18:18] <Halabund> IdleWarship, yeah, the company making QQ knows no shame ... bastards
[18:19] <Jordan_U> jason___: grub2 does work on PPC and yoi can also use the netboot CD.
[18:19] <laci_> i all! i'm using rsync to make backup from my home/user directory. I started it from terminal. It's running since 1,5 hours. when will end this process? i have only 34 GB used place in this directory. can i somehow see the steps of process?
[18:21] <moses> whats the common text editor that comes with ubuntu?
[18:21] <pangolin> gedit
[18:21] <graphix4me> moses: gedit
[18:21] <svip> I am having the weirdest problem.
[18:21] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything.
[18:22] <moses> hmmm
[18:22] <graphix4me> svip: Describe that please. Also, tell us your version of Ubuntu. Then whether or not you installed it "Freshly".
[18:22] <moses> it doesnt come with ubuntu server
[18:22] <svip> I need RandR, but I cannot enable it, because I have Xinerama enabled, but if I disable Xinerama (i.e. two separate X screens), X tells me it faield to load the configuration.
[18:22] <moses> anything else?
[18:22] <svip> graphix4me: 11.10 and I re-installed.
[18:22] <shantorn> Pici: how do i remove it, it tells me i need it for gnome-shell
[18:22] <svip> graphix4me: I have two monitors, one is on the side.
[18:22] <pangolin> moses: nano
[18:22] <coilbucker> On both the login screen and the virtual terminal the resolution is too high and things run off the edge of the screen. How do I change it?
[18:22] <svip> Turned 90 degrees.
[18:23] <PanArtur> orated: after deleting this you could check and open this in terminal again
[18:23] <graphix4me> moses:  That's for desktop edition then. Server version of ubuntu.... You're not excpected to use GNOME or any kind of GUI or desktop interface. Only commandline.
[18:23] <Encoreguy> moses are you asking about my problem
[18:23] <Jax90> moses: vim, of course. =D
[18:23] <svip> moses: ed
[18:23] <Pici> shantorn: Why are you trying to install this other package?
[18:23] <Jax90> svip: ah, pipped at the post
[18:23] <graphix4me> moses: apt-get install gedit  nano                                  (Nano is a great texct editor for CLI. Vim is nice too)
[18:24] <Pici> graphix4me: nano is installed by default. and gedit should be too.
[18:24] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:24] <shantorn> i am not trying to its a dependancy issue that showed up, i dont know why
[18:25] <moses> hmmm i appear to not know how to save this file after i have entered information
[18:25] <svip> graphix4me: Also, I set it to a separate X screen, but they are not separate X screens!
[18:25] <Encoreguy> Anyone!
[18:25] <Pici> shantorn: Can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy libcaribou-common
[18:25] <moses> how do you save a vim file in cli?
[18:25] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:25] <orated> PanArtur: What in terminal again?
[18:25] <graphix4me> Pici: Not for when I installed my ubuntu server, but oh well. It's not my issue. (I used a remote server and they got this feature were I can turn server on. switch distros and etc. Virtual server and  full server)
[18:25] <Pici> moses: press escape, then :w
[18:25] <Jax90> moses:  escape to leave edit mode, then :w
[18:25] <Migaaresno> moses:  escape, then ':w'
[18:25] <Pici> graphix4me: server doesn't have a graphical environment by default, so no gedit.
[18:26] <Pici> moses: or :x to save and quit.
[18:26] <graphix4me> Pici: Yea I know.
[18:26] <Pici> graphix4me: okay :)
[18:26] <moses> how to exit vim?
[18:26] <orated> PanArtur: I have removed ! in the if () in that script, restarting
[18:27] <Jax90> moses:  :q
[18:27] <keepr> @moses shift+zz and vim will save and exit
[18:27] <graphix4me> svip: Sorry, I can't be much of help, I'm not on my home computer to do much of a support here. Keyboard I use here sucks too.
[18:27] <Ansikt> Hey, can you use unetbootin to create ppc live cds?
[18:27] <graphix4me> Ansikt: "PPC"?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> power pc
[18:27] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:27] <Ansikt> ^^ What he said
[18:27] <graphix4me> Ansikt: Try it and see what happens.
[18:28]  * Ansikt is taking the man's suggestion
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> yellow dog is or was the only distro for pc's, i think
[18:28] <jason___> Ansikt: you use a burning program to create Live CDs, regardless of it being PPC or Intel or AMD based.
[18:28] <jason___> Ansikt: or do you mean USB?
[18:28] <C_K_> how come when i installed unbent i couldn't boot into it?
[18:28] <C_K_> unbuntu*
[18:28] <Ragnarock> hi boys hi girls hi gays hi beast hi etc.....
[18:28] <moses> i pushed :q  it didnt exit!!!
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> yellow dog is or was the only distro for ppc's, i think
[18:29] <jason___> MonkeyDust: red hat, fedora, centos, and debian I think have official ports.
[18:29] <Ansikt> Jason__: USBs, I just slightly misunderstood the unetbootin interface.  But it should work.
[18:29] <wiredfool> MonkeyDust: nope, I ran ubuntu on my tibook for a while
[18:29] <jason___> MonkeyDust: though fedora hasnt supported new variants since f12 I believe
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> i rest my case
[18:29] <jason___> MonkeyDust: also, Ubuntu has a community driven PPC port that I actually use. they skipped 11.04 but otherwise its solid. they have a 11.10 variant Im about to try in a few minutes.
[18:29] <geordee> I would like to change the color of Ubuntu Unity launcher. Is it possible?
[18:29] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:29] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:29] <Encoreguy> I was using Ubuntu 11.04 now I have 11.10 with the same issue.  When I turn computer on most times the bluetooth doesnt work.  I have to turn it off then back on for it to recognize devices.  Once I turn it on it works fine until the next time I shut the computer down then back on.  More of an annoyance than anything
[18:29] <FloodBot1> Encoreguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <graphix4me> Ansikt: I'm reading this from google search result "unetbootin is not PPC compatible I know that one for a fact,"..... I DIDNOT cross reference that search, so you can't really rely on "that". I usually just test and see what happens. Otherwise, I would ross reference.
[18:30] <Ragnarock> hiiii alllll
[18:30] <Ragnarock> cover me
[18:30] <jason___> Question - I have GParted installed on my 11.10 machine, but when I search for gparted I do not see it anywhere. Its not in my gnome shell menu either.
[18:30] <dispyfree> @deem: da bin ich wieder. gleiches Problem. ;)
[18:30] <dispyfree> welche Dateien soll ich pasten, wenn ichs mal auf ubuntuusers haue?
[18:30] <Encoreguy> I dont understand
[18:30] <graphix4me> Encoreguy: Repeating doesn't help. Actually, it makes me not want to help you any more. (For appearing rather annoying and makes me to help anyone in here MORE WORK as texct on my screen scrolls up fast).
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> jason___: type alt-f2 gparted
[18:31] <Ragnarock> cover me
[18:31] <Ragnarock> help me
[18:31] <Ansikt> graphix4me:  Well, he wouldn't *be* encoreguy if he didn't repeat himself...
[18:31] <Ragnarock> ajudem me
[18:31] <b0ot> How do I search for a package
[18:31] <graphix4me> Lol.
[18:31] <jason___> MonkeyDust: command not found
[18:31] <Ragnarock> pacs
[18:31] <shantorn> Pici: http://pastebin.com/svB2GMkG
[18:32] <pratz> hey guys i had windows on D drive and installed ubuntu in C drive, now on the startup i can not see the option to choose os, it directly boots into ubuntu
[18:32] <jason___> MonkeyDust: running gparted in terminal says its not installed. lol? Ill remove it and re-add it
[18:32] <coilbucker> Did you overwrite your windows partition?
[18:32] <Ansikt> You have to edit grub, pratz.  Does Ubuntu use Grub2 or Grub Legacy?
[18:32] <Pici> shantorn: Do you need that PPA enabled?
[18:32] <PanArtur> b0ot: sudo aptitude search [packagename]
[18:33] <Pici> b0ot, PanArtur: you don't need sudo to search
[18:33] <coilbucker> Ubuntu uses grub2.
[18:33] <amr_> hello, is any one can talk Russian
[18:33] <graphix4me> !de | dispyfree
[18:33] <b0ot> didn't find it
[18:33] <Pici> !ru | amr_
[18:33] <pratz> coilbucker: i know this is about grub , can you help me
[18:33] <PanArtur> Pici: right, my mistake
[18:33] <dispyfree> graphix4me: I know. I'm also in the german channel, but I just got the wrong window :X
[18:33] <b0ot> I get the error: No Package 'glib-2.0' and 'gthread-2.0' found
[18:33] <jason___> MonkeyDust: fixed
[18:33] <pratz> coilbucker: hey guys i had windows on D drive and installed ubuntu in C drive, now on the startup i can not see the option  to choose os, it directly boots into ubuntu
[18:34] <b0ot> but the apt-cache search and aptitude search didn't bring upanthing
[18:34] <Ansikt> Okay, pratz, you need to install a "40_Custom" for windows
[18:34] <graphix4me> ROfl , alright dispyfree . xD
[18:34] <b0ot> anything
[18:34] <graphix4me> b0ot: apt-get update        first?
[18:34] <coilbucker> I don't know much about configuring grub, but I do know that gfxpayload doesn't want to cooperate.
[18:34] <Jordan_U> pratz: Run "sudo update-grub"
[18:34] <graphix4me> b0ot: Or edit sources list
[18:34] <Ansikt> pratz:  This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[18:35] <shantorn> not that i know of
[18:35] <antnash> does anyone have any experience with vnc4server?
[18:35] <Ansikt> Pratz:  Here's a better one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#With_Windows
[18:35] <graphix4me> What's the exact image dimension (Width and height) for that Ubuntu logo/icon used in WUBI.exe?
[18:35] <Jordan_U> Ansikt: If update-grub isn't finding Windows then the Windows install is broken and no manual enty will work either.
[18:36] <graphix4me> antnash: No I do not. :S
[18:37] <Jordan_U> pratz: Don't do anything other than running "sudo update-grub" yet.
[18:37] <graphix4me> antnash: And don't ask to ask, as YES and NO isn't going to get you a useful answer. Just get straight to the point and ask your question. Are you experiencing problems with that software?
[18:37] <vooze> Is acroread gone in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:37] <heyitseric> antnash, what's going on with the vnc4server?
[18:38] <orated> PanArtur: Instead of recovery menu options, on removing ! from the script and even after removing the whole block containing the error message, both the cases it boots and gives a weird graphic login where I can login to my account and stuff ..
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !ask| antnash
[18:39]  * wiredfool has roughly 6 operating systems on this machine, and yet neither 11.10 or 10.04 think that there are any appropriate users to import from 
[18:39] <varikonniemi> how do you feel about being on a os with a market share of almost 5%
[18:39] <orated> PanArtur: Something like resume normal boot but with poor graphics
[18:39] <Polah> !artwork | graphix4me
[18:39] <antnash> I'm not getting any desktop environment. I've followed examples on how to set up with xfce, but to no avail. I just get a yellow/black screen and a cross for a cursor
[18:39] <varikonniemi> i am trying to find good excuses, but could you help me?
[18:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! Someone's alive? I want to install avidemux by apt-get... How can I do?
[18:39] <pangolin> !polls | varikonniemi
[18:39] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I don't find .deb package at getdeb.net...
[18:40] <PanArtur> orated: ok, when you look at this script you'll see that if there is no whipnail then it drops you into sulogin
[18:40] <varikonniemi> pangolin, hear you loud and clear
[18:40] <Polah> graphix4me, not quite the output I wanted. There's a wiki page somewhere with all the Ubuntu logo artwork on it in vector (SVG) and bitmap (high resolution PNG) formats
[18:40] <orated> PanArtur: whiptail* ^
[18:40] <antnash> !patience
[18:40] <PanArtur> orated: but you've got whiptail
[18:40] <graphix4me> Polah: I was talking about about the AUTORUN icon. xD
[18:40] <graphix4me> From WUBI.
[18:41] <varikonniemi> however it was not a poll
[18:41] <wiredfool> Emmanuel_Chanel: it appears that there's not an oneiric package
[18:41] <varikonniemi> it was a question about your experience with ubuntu
[18:41] <antnash> heyitseric, any idea?
[18:41] <wiredfool> Emmanuel_Chanel: but there are ones for everything else
[18:41] <svip> Is there a better alternative to get a real desktop envorinment than gnome-panel?
[18:41] <svip> It's really... not stable.
[18:41] <svip> And Unity or Gnome 3 seems to be non-functional.
[18:41] <zyltoid> it's listed here http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.04/?q=avidemux
[18:41] <svip> ;-; Things were better in the olden days.
[18:41] <Polah> graphix4me, oh. More of a Windows question but I believe icons are limited to 64x64 maximum and accept other multiples like 48^2, 24^2 and 16^2
[18:41] <zyltoid> agh damn scroll
[18:42] <Jordan_U> !ot | varikonniemi
[18:42] <Polah> svip: Lots of alternatives. KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Enlightenment
[18:42] <heyitseric> antnash: i may have an answer but i still don't know your question
[18:42] <svip> Polah: What about Gnome2?!
[18:42] <wiredfool> Emmanuel_Chanel: That's probably a bug, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:42] <varikonniemi> Jordan_U, ok thanks i will
[18:42] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Now I'm on 11.10...
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi: offtopic: the percentage of people who like Rachmaninov is not as high as that of Lady Gaga, but still I have higher esteem for rachmaniniv than for laday gaga
[18:42] <orated> PanArtur: Yes, I meant whiptail not whipnail. I get Couldn't find whiptail, starting root shell instead of recovery menu which the script echoes as per the condition
[18:42] <ex0> seems that if you upgrade instead of a fresh install you get the option of using the old classic mode still..im not having any problems, im using 11.10 and i have classic desktop environment
[18:42] <antnash> heyitseric, I'm not getting any desktop environment. I've followed examples on how to set up with xfce, but to no avail. I just get a yellow/black screen and a cross for a cursor
[18:42] <Polah> svip: Discontinued and no longer officially developed. There's a fork called mate which has no guarantee of functionality or stability.
[18:43] <Jordan_U> varikonniemi: You're welcome.
[18:43] <svip> Polah: XFCE it is then!
[18:43] <wiredfool> svip: there's kde, xfce, lsomethingorother, unity
[18:44] <ex0> E17 also...
[18:44] <sysup> How do I install the 3D cube?
[18:44] <ex0> is pretty fun to use
[18:44] <Polah> wirefool: You mean LXDE. svip: There's others too, not just the ones listed.
[18:44] <svip> wiredfool: Hah, unity.
[18:44] <wiredfool> bay, sorry, was scrolled back
[18:44] <wiredfool> bah
[18:44] <ardithoxha> HOW TO UPGRADE FIREFOX IN 10.10?
[18:44] <svip> Polah: Well, I am familiar with XFCE.
[18:44] <PBY> antnash: maybe deleting your xorg.conf might help? It'll autogenerate on launch
[18:45] <Jordan_U> !caps | ardithoxha
[18:45] <kiichiro> for some reason while trying to install java I get a "ailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata-java_2011k-0ubuntu0.11.04_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.188 80]" I am currenty running xubuntu 11.04
[18:45] <ardithoxha> HOW TO UPGRADE FIREFOX IN 10.10?
[18:45] <sysup> How do I install the 3D cube?
[18:45] <zyltoid> YELL UPDATE :P
[18:45] <sysup> ;p
[18:45] <PBY> HOW NOT TO TYPE IN CAPS?
[18:45] <sysup> please, no CAPS
[18:45] <sysup> thanks
[18:45] <wiredfool> kiichiro: there's some tzdata legal issues recently, you may need to update
[18:45] <sysup> =p
[18:46] <Polah> ardithoxha, I think the highest supported version in 10.10 is Firefox 3.6 or so
[18:46] <heyitseric> antnash: I found that switching from vnc4server back to tightvncserver fixes the problem
[18:46] <zyltoid> firefox has a ppa
[18:46] <antnash> I'll try that
[18:46] <ardithoxha> Polah: so I need to upgrade to 11.04 or 11.10?
[18:46] <pratz> Jordan_U: i am not connected to internet
[18:46] <wiredfool> kiichiro: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty-updates/tzdata-java
[18:47] <wiredfool> kiichiro: they're up to 2011L, from 2011K
[18:47] <pratz> Jordan_U: how do i edit the menu.lst file in /boot/grub ?
[18:47] <pratz> Jordan_U: i.e what are the lines i have to insert ?
[18:47] <Polah> ardithoxha, yes, unless there is indeed a PPA with a later version for maverick.
[18:48] <orated> Hello! Everytime I try to choose recovery mode option from the bootloader, I get this message - http://imagebin.org/180177 . Can someone help me fix it?
[18:48] <Jordan_U> pratz: You don't need to be connected to tje onternet and there should be no menu.lst in /boot/grub/. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:48] <ardithoxha> Polah: I heard that 11.10 has much problems with booting,system so on.11.04 is better than 11.10?
[18:49] <pratz> Jordan_U: 10.04
[18:49] <Polah> ardithoxha, sure there may be problems depending on your hardware with either version.
[18:49] <b0ot> Is there any software for ubuntu that would be able to take incomming gps data, translate between types, and send it out to an ip address(s)
[18:49] <pratz> Jordan_U: yap there was not menu.lst file i created it, but what is the suggested way to doing it ?
[18:49] <Jordan_U> pratz: Fresh install or upgrade from a previous version?
[18:49] <heyitseric> antnash, try In /home/username/.vnc/xstartupI commented out the xterm line#xterm ..... replaced twm with gnome-session
[18:50] <pratz> Jordan_U: fresh install
[18:50] <Jordan_U> pratz: I've told you twice already: sudo update-grub
[18:50] <kenjy> so can you help me?
[18:50] <Ansikt> So, other then unetbootin, how would one make a live cd of Ubuntu on a different GNU/Linux distribution?
[18:50] <antnash> heyitseric, I'm going for tightvnc, just getting it set up now
[18:52] <heyitseric> !ask | kenjy
[18:52] <zromayn> hello all: I'm having issues getting bash to automatically source my ~/.bashrc file. I created a new user via terminal, and when I logged in with that user, in the prompt I get just the $
[18:52] <Ansikt> zroman:  Are you logging into gui?
[18:53] <kenjy> heyitseric: I 've asked and Im still waiting for an answer hehehe
[18:53] <soakda> hi
[18:53] <pratz> Jordan_U: fired sudo update-grub but windows is not showing up on startup
[18:53] <Ansikt> zromayn, because if you aren't, then the issue may be that you are using a login shell, which means bashrc won't be loaded automatically.
[18:53] <zromayn> Ansikt: this is in my Ubuntu server 11/04
[18:53] <pratz> Jordan_U: any other ways to do ?
[18:53] <pratz> Jordan_U: does 10.04 use grub 2 ?
[18:54] <shantorn> Pici: is there a preferred ppa or repo for adding gnome-shell to 11.10? if so could you point me tward it
[18:54] <Polah> Ansikt: Writing via dd should work in most cases
[18:54] <kenjy> okay, again, when I boot my server with ubuntu server my apache2 does not start automaticly, in spite of the fact that its on rc.dx scripts ... if I start it manually it works fine ... can you help me?
[18:54] <Ansikt> zromayn:  put "bash" in your .bash_profile
[18:54] <Jordan_U> pratz: Yes. What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[18:55] <Ansikt> You might also want to put other stuff in there, like load, memory used vs memfree, termianl number, and an ascii cat, so that when you log in you get that handy little spewing of statistics.
[18:55] <Ansikt> *terminal
[18:55] <Ansikt> Also, zromayn ^^
[18:55] <zromayn> Ansikt: by default Ubuntu doesn't create that .bash_profile. I believe it creates .profile instead.
[18:55] <vector> b0ot: not that I know of but it shouldn't be very hard to make something that does that... depending how hard the conversion is that you mentioned
[18:56] <Ansikt> Indeed.  you have to create the .bash_profile.
[18:56] <altmeta> exit
[18:56] <soakda> i have ubuntu 11.10 and have problem with booting fakeraid (dualboot with windows 7), everything installed like a charm, it even booted after installation to both windows and ubuntu but after updating and rebooting one more time i get kernel panic and message that root= is wrong
[18:56] <heyitseric> kenjy: update-rc.d apache2 enable [list of run levels]
[18:56] <pratz> Jordan_U: returns blank
[18:56] <bahamas> hello. i've just booted my laptop with ubuntu 11.04 and it just froze on the purple screen. this is not the first time this has happened. how can i debug this?
[18:56] <Ansikt> Or, you cuold just chuck it into .profile, I suppose.
[18:56] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | pratz
[18:56] <zromayn> Ansikt: so you are saying that I should touch ~/.bash_profile and add bash in it
[18:57] <kenjy> heyitseric: done, the script first removed it and then added it again
[18:57] <Ansikt> zromayn:  Yes.  This means that it loads bash as a non interactive shell and will read your .bashrc.  Otherwise, it's a login shell and ignores it.
[18:57] <Ansikt> *will load bash
[18:58] <bahamas> anyone?
[18:58] <Ansikt> if you want statisics/ascii ducks, put those in before the "bash" line
[18:58] <Zerpy> Hello Guys, anyone that can do some bash programming? Have a really simple question
[18:58] <Ansikt> !ask | Zerpy
[18:58] <Jordan_U> pratz: It sounds like something is wrong with your Windows install. If you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txy I should be able to tell you what that is.
[18:59] <Zerpy> I'm sitting here with a backup script for my server, and I'm having this line: ACTIVITYLOG=/var/log/backuplogs/activity.log`date +%F` - But it says " date: extra operand `+%F' " when I try to run it
[18:59] <arcsky> when i add users with useradd -m "user" then they cant do sudo. how do i fix that ?
[19:00] <soakda> bahamas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535
[19:00] <hansg01> is there any way to delete temp internet files in ubuntu as in win except clearing frm the browser?
[19:01] <Ansikt> arcsky:  use the command "visudo" as root, copy the line that says something like root (ALL)=ALL onto a new line, but replace "root" with the username
[19:01] <zromayn> Ansikt: I tested it, but it didn't do it. I exited the ssh session then joined it back in. What do you think?
[19:01] <altmeta> hello all, any ideas why when I'm trying to copy files i'm being told that a file isn't a directory www.pastebin.com/9cueFygt
[19:01] <heyitseric> kenjy: read this http://www.techsww.com/tutorials/servers/apache_web_http_server/tips_and_tricks/starting_apache_web_server_at_every_reboot_for_debian_ubuntu_linux.php
[19:01] <ppcblaster> using quassel , how do I see the the list of who is in the channel?
[19:02] <kenjy> heyitseric: like it was working on just before I recompiled the kernel with openvz support?
[19:02] <Ansikt> zromayn:  It just flat out doesn't work?  Hm.  Maybe try deleting the .bash_profile, and replacing it with a symlink to .bashrc?
[19:02] <Ansikt> http://www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/html_node/Bash-Startup-Files.html
[19:03] <soakda> i have ubuntu 11.10 and have problem with booting fakeraid (dualboot with windows 7), everything installed like a charm, it even booted after installation to both windows and ubuntu but after updating and rebooting one more time i get kernel panic and message that root= is wrong
[19:03] <kenjy> heyitseric: do I have to replace my current working script instead of debugin the problema?
[19:03] <kenjy> heyitseric: what if my init.d script its fine?
[19:03] <wiredfool> soakda: sounds like the initrd didn't get regenerated
[19:03] <heyitseric> kenjy: i would be using a different script but its up to you
[19:04] <kenjy> heyitseric: thats a n00b solution
[19:04] <soakda> wiredfool: how can i fix it?
[19:04] <franz_> hi guys, why isn't the ubuntu button on the menubar and it is on the dock instead http://i.imgur.com/r7UrB.png
[19:05] <antnash> cheers, heyitseric. tight works a treat
[19:05] <heyitseric> kenjy: most time the simplest solution is the best one
[19:05] <wiredfool> soakda: bood the cd/usb key version, run update-initramfs -u
[19:05] <antnash> Couple of small issues though, why is my desktop different? No dock, different app menu. Also, I can't uninstall apps with the package manager
[19:06] <rtuio> hello i got hercules eepc runing on ubuntu lucid
[19:06] <fmouse> join #ctlug
[19:06] <soakda> wiredfool: should i changeroot or something?
[19:06] <adnc> hello, I'm missing the bottom panel from the time before unity. is it possible to add a panel which shows me the open windows?
[19:06] <rtuio> i can't install flash plugin what i have to do ?
[19:07] <rtuio> i mean how to install flash pluin ?
[19:07] <wiredfool> soakda: probably
[19:07] <rtuio> plugin
[19:07] <kasztan85> rtuio, software center?
[19:07] <kenjy> heyitseric: that applys if what you are providing its a solution but in fact its not because the script its healty, thats likely to say something like "reboot" the system
[19:08] <Pessimist> Does anybody have ever experience this: While VLC, mplayer or any other video player is opening screen goes blank for a second. VLC Doesn't even want to play videos -> http://pastebin.com/uAfgDD6T
[19:08] <rtuio> do you have that kind of pc ? kasztan85
[19:08] <rtuio> very customized one
[19:08] <xMopx> Hey guys - I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04.3 on a macbook using a USB drive. But when I try to boot off it in rEFIt, I get the error "Missing operating system". What do I need to do?
[19:09] <xMopx> I followed the guide to the dot - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[19:09] <rtuio> the best way for your problem is to install bootcamp and partition it then do the installation xMopx
[19:10] <milsem> hi all
[19:10] <milsem> somebody to known some shell hosting with background processes for a installing my smtp server
[19:10] <milsem> ?
[19:10] <pratz> Justasic: but the problem is that i do not have internet connect on my other computer
[19:10] <pratz> Jordan_U: but the problem is that i do not have internet connect on my other computer
[19:10] <pratz> Justasic: sorry dude, wrongly directed
[19:10] <xMopx> rtuio: So create a partition using bootcam? I made one with Disk Utility already. But that isnt really related to the problem, I cant boot off my installation media, is what i mean.
[19:11] <minna_> hi
[19:11] <rtuio> disk utility not the best solution
[19:11] <rtuio> yes i understand
[19:12] <rtuio> now it  is very late, the best way for your probleme if to reinstall everything then
[19:12] <rtuio> install bootcamp / partition / then ubuntu
[19:12] <rtuio> or you can install virtualbox then
[19:12] <jason___> so uh
[19:12] <xMopx> What do you mean by install bootcamp?
[19:12] <jason___> I cant open gparted. like at all.
[19:12] <rtuio> ubuntu on it
[19:13] <pratz> Jordan_U: i looked in grub.cfg but windows entry is not there
[19:13] <jason___> alt f2, terminal, you name it. I cannot open gparted no matter what on 11.10. what gives?
[19:13] <rtuio> i mean to launch bootcamp for partition
[19:13] <xMopx> Ah
[19:13] <soakda> i have ubuntu 11.10 and have problem with booting fakeraid (dualboot with windows 7), everything installed like a charm, it even booted after installation to both windows and ubuntu but after updating and rebooting one more time i get kernel panic and message that root= is wrong
[19:14] <raven> my gnome-panel settings are broken - how to rescue it?
[19:14] <Pessimist> Changed vo to default on gstreamer-properties, now black screen on mplayer
[19:14] <xMopx> rtuio: ok, so I'll create a partiton with boot camp then attempt to boot off the thumbdrive?
[19:15] <rtuio> yes
[19:15] <wunnle> hey all
[19:15] <xMopx> Ok, ill give it a shot.
[19:16] <raven> my gnome-panel settings are broken - how to rescue it?
[19:16] <rtuio> well i got sophistcated pc hercules pc runing on ubuntu lucid  how to install flash plugin ?
[19:16] <txwikinger> this is odd.. two oneiric installations with same firefox. One firebug console.log shows, the other one it doesn't
[19:17] <wunnle> i'm using 11.10, but my alt-tab app changer menu is old-style. why can it be?
[19:17] <jason___> QUESTION - Ubuntu 11.10. Cannot open GParted, regardless of how I try. ALT F2, Terminal, you name it. IT WONT OPEN. I uninstalled it, reinstalled, rebooted, etc. Nothing. Any ideas?
[19:17] <bil21al> is there any option of screen saver in 11.10.if so than where it is??
[19:17] <soakda> wunnle: disabled compiz?
[19:17] <xMopx> rtuio: I cant use boot camp assistant. No optical drive.
[19:17] <wunnle> soakda, no i didn't. how can i check?
[19:17] <johnjohn101> unity is so beautiful. thanks for making this available!
[19:18] <soakda> wunnle: do you boot unity 3d or 2d?
[19:18] <wunnle> soakda, i'm not sure :/
[19:18] <rtuio> then idon't know
[19:18] <rtuio> anyone there ?
[19:18] <dai> hey guys, how do i remove an application shortcut on the top [Applications] bar?
[19:18] <soakda> wunnle: what kind of gfx do you have?
[19:18] <pratz> Jordan_U: here is the output , please help on this  http://pastebin.com/Jr1TeH7Q
[19:19] <wunnle> soakda, nvidia gt540m
[19:19] <rtuio> hello anyone got ubuntu lucid ?
[19:19] <raven> my gnome-panel settings are broken - how to rescue it?
[19:20] <soakda> wunnle: http://askubuntu.com/search?q=alt%2Btab maybe you will find similiar topic
[19:21] <Lartza> How does chntpw work? What do I feed it?
[19:21] <pratz> Jordan_U: hey dude you there ?
[19:21] <Lartza> Nothing seems to work
[19:21] <pratz> Jordan_U: this is the output http://pastebin.com/Jr1TeH7Q
[19:21] <Jordan_U> pratz: All of your Windows partitions are logical. Windows can't boot from logical partitions.
[19:22] <raven> my gnome-panel settings are broken - how to rescue it?
[19:22] <wunnle> soakda, i have another problem also, i think it's related to other one. i've just installed compizconfig settings manager, and activated wobbly windows, but nothing happened :S
[19:23] <pratz> Jordan_U: is there any way round for this ?
[19:23] <nulled> anyone upgrade to 11.10 server ok ?
[19:23] <rtuio> hello anyone there ?
[19:23] <nulled> im here
[19:23] <arcsky> when i add users with useradd -m "user" then they cant do sudo. how do i fix that ?
[19:23] <en1gma> i have win7 install to my C: i installed vmware and then installed ubuntu 11.10 with a 10GB partition.....thats not enough so i used vmplayer to resize to 20GB but ubuntu still only showing 10GB. gparted shows the other 10GB uncallocated space but i cant merge it into the original 10GB to make it 20GB total
[19:23] <en1gma> anyone know how to do this?
[19:23] <nulled> you have to add the new user to the suders file
[19:24] <dai> hey guys, how do i remove applications in my applications bar?
[19:24] <Jordan_U> pratz: I need to leave now but don't waste any time writing manual entries, no matter what anyone else tells you. Once Windows is fixed, update-grub will find it.
[19:24] <bindi> arcsky: usermod -a -G admin new_user
[19:24] <pensters> I have a routed openvpn connection. I can only browse the samba shares if firestarter is turned off. Almost all blocked connections are udp packets.
[19:24] <pratz> Jordan_U: how do i fix windows ?
[19:25] <Jordan_U> pratz: All I can think of is re-installing Windows. ##windows may have a better solution.
[19:25] <shantorn> what are people up to?
[19:25] <soakda> i have ubuntu 11.10 and have problem with booting fakeraid (dualboot with windows 7), everything installed like a charm, it even booted after installation to both windows and ubuntu but after updating and rebooting one more time i get kernel panic and message that root= is wrong
[19:26] <Jordan_U> pratz: How did you get in this configuration in the first place?
[19:26] <hxm> hi to disable the password manager?
[19:26] <pratz> Jordan_U: think is that its my friends computer , do not know why he installed windows in d drive
[19:27] <shantorn> does anyone know how to enable front sound ports? i am using 11.10 and with other os's they have worked but I dont know where to start looking
[19:27] <venomkiller> im dual booting ubuntu and opensuse if i delete my suse partition will my ubuntu grub just take over?
[19:28] <raven> my gnome-panel settings are broken - how to rescue it?
[19:28] <dai> anyone know how to remove  simple shortcuts in ubuntu?
[19:29] <ow> I just installed 11.10 in VMWare. It seems I have desktop effects and such but the keyboard-driven workspace switcher and the alt-tab behavior is bland. How can I reinstate the defaults?
[19:29] <pratz> Jordan_U: hey dude thanks for the help, its good night for us, so good night take care
[19:29] <number14> i installed ubuntu a couple days ago and my mouse is annoyingly sensitive, i'm trying to get the syndaemon to work but to no avail
[19:30] <number14> i'm assuming it has something to do with the synaptics drivers
[19:30] <soakda> wiredfool: regenerating initrd helped! thanks ! :)
[19:31] <number14> any information would be appreciated
[19:33] <C_K_> hello all
[19:33] <C_K_> I have a question
[19:33] <wunnle>  i have an interesting problem on ubuntu 11.10. i installed compizconfig settings manager and i activated some of effects. they did not applied also i lost my default features (like snapping windows and alt+tab menu!) what should i do?
[19:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> !ask | C_K_
[19:35] <test4> hi there
[19:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> test4:  hi!  can we help you with something?
[19:35] <C_K_> I installed ubuntu along side mac and windows but when i boot up my mac it only reads windows and mac so to boot into ubuntu i have to click the windows hard drive and then boot into ubuntu
[19:35] <test4> how are u and how is the rest of yr family i am saffey
[19:35] <C_K_> is that normal for a mac?
[19:35] <test4> ok
[19:35] <test4> what is yr name
[19:35] <number14> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics seems to be installed
[19:35] <test4> i am 19 f there
[19:36] <en1gma> anyone see that q about vmware and ubuntu and resizing the fs
[19:36] <number14> i'm assuming i have to edit some xorg config file perhaps, i'm having trouble finding documentation of what needs to be done
[19:36] <en1gma> im having a real pain trying to get it done
[19:36] <pensters> how do you allow udp traffic through firestarter
[19:37] <auronandace> en1gma: can't you use gparted?
[19:37] <en1gma> it wont let me resize it for some reason
[19:37] <auronandace> en1gma: is the fs mounted?
[19:37] <en1gma> yea i think so...i mean im running ubuntu when i run gparted
[19:38] <en1gma> the extra 10GB is "unallocated"
[19:38] <auronandace> en1gma: you're meant to do it from a livecd then
[19:38] <Kartagis> hi
[19:38] <luist> hey guys… is there any command to see how many free RAM slots i have??
[19:38] <soakda> number14: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9903683&postcount=7
[19:38] <en1gma> when i try to do a live cd it dont see it at all
[19:38] <en1gma> its just a file not really a real partition
[19:38] <C_K_> does anyone here triple boot on a mac?
[19:38] <Kartagis> in 11.10, how do we set a launcher's properties?
[19:39] <auronandace> en1gma: it has to be a real partition if it is a vm
[19:39] <en1gma> it does?
[19:39] <auronandace> en1gma: how did you install it in the vm?
[19:40] <en1gma> it asked me what size i wanted it and i said 10GB
[19:40] <en1gma> im in win7 and i ran vmplayer and selected my ubuntu iso
[19:40] <soakda> wii soakda
[19:40] <soakda> lol :)
[19:40] <luist> with what command i can see the video standards supported on my machine (VGA, SVGA, XGA, WXGA, etc)
[19:40] <en1gma> in win7 disk management it dont see any partition for it
[19:41] <test4> hi there how are u i am saffy from the gambia and i wil lieek to be yr friend
[19:41] <auronandace> en1gma: then you likely selected to install to the entire virtual harddisk (which you created (10G))
[19:41] <genii-around> luist: xrandr   usually
[19:41] <Jordan_U> pratz: You're welcome.
[19:41] <Kartagis> in 11.10, how do we set a launcher's properties?
[19:41] <en1gma> i selected single file or something like that
[19:41] <auronandace> en1gma: of course windows won't see it, it is in the vm
[19:42] <en1gma> gparted dont see it when i run it from vmplayer either
[19:42] <luist> genii-around: i only see the currently connected… which is a VGA :(
[19:42] <en1gma> it only see the partition that i set it up with
[19:42] <auronandace> en1gma: i've never used vmware, i prefer virtualbox
[19:43] <en1gma> hmm
[19:43] <gsr> Just migrated to 11.10 from 11.04.  Using Gnome Classic - I've lost almost all my desktop settings (wth ubuntu!), and I'm wondering how do I add apps and panels to gnomes top bar?
[19:43] <gsr> especially the one that shows disk, CPU and network usage
[19:44] <wunnle> what, CCSM is not working with 11.10?
[19:45] <robin0800> gsr, use the alt key and click
[19:46] <xangua> wunnle: if you mean cube, it doesn't ;) and also don't disable unity plugin
[19:46] <leroy> m_
[19:46] <leroy> is that you
[19:46] <gsr> robin0800: thanks.
[19:47] <jelly-home> Hello.  I want my Clementine music player to be able to reproduce AAC+ streams.  Which gstreamer package provides aacplus decoder (usually libfaad is used for those)?
[19:47] <jelly-home> this is on Ubuntu 11.10.
[19:47] <wunnle> xangua, none of them is working for me :/ like wobble windows.
[19:48] <gsr> now I just need to figure out why compiz is rendering wayy to slowly.  it was working perfectly in gnome2, with transparancy and wobbly windows working perfectly (and avant dock was rendered properly as well)
[19:48] <auronandace> jelly-home: clementine uses gstreamer? if so then it is likely gstreamer-plugins-bad
[19:48] <BentSpace> Is it best to have your /home directory on a separate partition?  If so, why isn't it the default or at least an easily selectable option?
[19:49] <jelly-home> auronandace: yes.  And I can't find it.  Amusingly, there AAC+ _encoder_ provided by libfaac counterpart.
[19:49] <jelly-home> that's in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[19:50] <leroy> m_ lets talk about ssh
[19:50] <jelly-home> auronandace: oh, for some reason I really did not have "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad".
[19:50] <dweez> BentSpace, I think having the /home on a separate partition is preferred if you have multiple users and want to better lock down the access the root filesystem
[19:50] <dweez> BentSpace, but I'm no linux genius by a long shot
[19:51] <cesurasean1> hey guys. i have a wireless network card that SEES my network, but just won't connect. keeps prompting for password. when i tried wicd, it just said bad password everytime, but i know the password is correct as ive checked my gateway!!!!
[19:51] <cesurasean1> is there some problem with ubuntu and wpa2 personal?
[19:51] <cesurasean1> how do i get wireless working on this computer??!!
[19:51] <Ansikt> cesurasean1, I don't think so.  I've had this problem on other distributions.
[19:51] <dweez> BentSpace, typically, if you're the only person who will be using it, having it all on one partition (except boot and swap) is no big deal
[19:52] <jelly-home> auronandace: thanks.  For some reason Software Center doesn't even mention aac+ decoder is hiding in there.
[19:52] <Ansikt> For me, it's a usually an issue regarding permissions on nm-applet or whatever.  Sadly, I usually resolved this by logging in as root, but there's probably a better way.
[19:52] <jelly-home> aptitude search '~Dlibfaad2' shows it's clearly depending on the decoder library
[19:52] <auronandace> jelly-home: i much prefer synaptic
[19:53] <jelly-home> auronandace: I prefer aptitude, but am testing Ubuntu.
[19:53] <cesurasean1> Ansikt, how did you fix it?
[19:53] <BentSpace> dweez: Yea, I was just thinking it might make the process of installing new versions Ubuntu, doing a fresh install easier
[19:53] <wunnle> xangua, can you send me your compizconfig profile file? it's a mess in here :S
[19:53] <dweez> BentSpace, there's that too
[19:54] <BentSpace> dweez: not sure if it's worth the trouble though
[19:55] <RandomRoger> Is there a way to create a custom launcher  ?
[19:55] <dweez> I never really bother
[19:55] <xangua> wunnle: i don't use unuty; you can try reset unity with 'unity --reset' and delete ~/.compiz directory on your home
[19:56] <dweez> I tend to just upgrade my install of rsync files I want to keep off to another box then back when I'm done installing
[19:56] <leroy> michealh is that wireless boy
[19:57] <wunnle> xangua, there is no .compiz directory on home :/
[19:57] <MichealH> leroy, ?
[19:58] <Brutus-> Hi, if uname -i command prints x86_64 then it means i have ubuntu 32 bit on 64bit architecture?
[19:58] <BentSpace> That was something else I was wondering is there a reason to use rsync for copying all your files to another drive vs. just using copy and paste?
[19:58] <dweez> Brutus-, yep
[19:58] <MichealH> Brutus-, I'm sure it means you run 64-bit Ubuntu/Linux Kerne;
[19:58] <MichealH> Or something similar
[19:58] <horse> hello all, i have a quick question
[19:58] <dweez> BentSpace, to another drive?  No, cp/mv is fine
[19:58] <Ansikt> cesurasean, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Set_up_PolicyKit_permissions
[19:59] <Ansikt> What is it horse?
[19:59] <dweez> BentSpace, rsync and scp are for copying/moving files over the network
[19:59] <BentSpace> dweez: Thank you.
[19:59] <dweez> np
[19:59] <MichealH> leroy, Can we help you?
[19:59] <Polah> dweez: not necessarily over a network
[19:59] <horse> if i abort a download with apt-get (package with much small files) and restart it later, it wont reload all the files i allready have?
[19:59] <dweez> Polah, yeah, for the most part though
[19:59] <horse> thing is, im on a very limited line here
[20:00] <dweez> rsync is good for other reasons when copying between partitions/hdds
[20:00] <gsr> Followed these instructions: http://www.jondev.net/articles/Ubuntu_11.04_choppy_or_slow  but Compiz on Gnome Classic in 11.10 is still extremely choppy.  I know it's not my CPU, because running compiz (including wobbly windows and transparent windows) was absolutely flawless in Gnome 2.3 on 11.04.  Anyone else have problems upgrading to 11.10 and finding compiz Unbareable?
[20:00] <MichealH> horse, IIRC, If you stop a download and do not restart your PC, you shall be fine
[20:00] <Polah> horse: It shouldn't need to it, and it should continue anything partially downloaded already
[20:00] <Brutus-> MichealH, are you sure?
[20:00] <Ansikt> horse, I'm not so good with apt, but I'm pretty sure it caches all downloaded packages, even if it doesn't install them.
[20:00] <Gentoo64> gsr: prob the graphics drivers. what card is it
[20:01] <gsr> Gentoo64: its an AI Radeon
[20:01] <gsr> ATI*
[20:01] <horse> so i have it in the terminal, i just strg+c and it and restart it later?
[20:01] <Polah> Ansikt: Indeed. /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:01] <MichealH> Brutus-, x86 for 32 bit version and the -64 for "It *can* run 64 bit, IIRC
[20:01] <Gentoo64> gsr: have you tried it with and without the proprietary drivers?
[20:01] <horse> -and
[20:01] <Brutus-> MichealH, ah ok.
[20:01] <Brutus-> MichealH, dweez  thank you
[20:01] <horse> just strg+c it and restart it later?
[20:01] <Polah> MichealH, Brutus-: uname showing x86_64 means the system is 64-bit, which means the processor is 64-bit capable.
[20:02] <gsr> Gentoo: ahhh, the upgrade didn't upgrade the prorietary drivers, it just turned them off!
[20:02] <gsr> thanks, ill try installing them now
[20:02] <Gadgetroch> hi
[20:02] <MichealH> Polah, Yeah, and he is running 32 bit now....
[20:02] <Gadgetroch> i'm french sorry
[20:02] <MichealH> Thats why there is x86
[20:02] <MichealH> :P
[20:02] <Gadgetroch> but i have a problem
[20:02] <Gentoo64> gsr: yea try installing them. its prob something to do with the kernel update
[20:02] <Polah> MichealH: He said x86_64 didn't he?
[20:02] <Gadgetroch> i have resolved port in my box
[20:02] <Pici> Gadgetroch: There is #ubuntu-fr if that is more comfortable for you.
[20:02] <Gentoo64> you need to install the drivers after
[20:02] <Ansikt> Horse, yeah.  But you may need to remove the lock when you restart it.
[20:02] <MichealH> Polah, -64 IIRC
[20:02] <BentSpace> dweez: When doing a fresh install of a new version of Ubuntu do you usually reuse the hidden files in your home directory or do you start from scratch?  I had trouble reusing them one time so I have been starting from scratch each thing I do a fresh install, but it's slightly annoying to resetup all my email accounts and what not.
[20:02] <MichealH> Not _64
[20:02] <Brutus-> Polah, i know the architecture. I don't remember the version of ubuntu :D
[20:02] <Gadgetroch> and with gufw
[20:03] <Polah> Brutus
[20:03] <Gadgetroch> i have make rules for tcp port 22 and udp
[20:03] <Pici> !enter | Gadgetroch
[20:03] <Gentoo64> BentSpace: home dir should be safe
[20:03] <dweez> BentSpace, i go from scratch
[20:03] <Gentoo64> BentSpace: its only config files that are harmless
[20:03] <Brutus-> Polah, but i understood
[20:03] <Polah> MichealH, never heard of x86-64 being shown...
[20:03] <Gadgetroch> but i can't make ssh, just in localhost, not in network
[20:03] <dweez> I let the install wipe away my config and start over
[20:03] <Gadgetroch> can you help me ?
[20:03] <Polah> Brutus-: lsb_release -a will show you release. But you have a 64-bit system running, not 32-bit, just for clarification.
[20:03] <penguin_03> is it possible to re enable module loading after 'echo "1" > /proc/sys/kernel/modules_disabled' ?
[20:04] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: echo 0 then try again
[20:04] <penguin_03> Gentoo64, no that inst the solution.
[20:04] <Gadgetroch> he said me timed out but i can ping
[20:04] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: why did you set it to 1?
[20:04] <Troke> Was hoping someone could lend their expertise to a new ubuntu user
[20:04] <Brutus-> Polah, ok thank you
[20:05] <Polah> !ask | Troke
[20:05] <Gadgetroch> nobody ?
[20:05] <Gadgetroch> !enter | ubottu
[20:06] <horse> thanks guy
[20:06] <Gadgetroch> !enter | Chrisie
[20:06] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, i missed your question. Would you repeat it for me please?
[20:06] <horse> have a good evening
[20:06] <Gadgetroch> hum
[20:06] <penguin_03> Gentoo64, i didnt think i would need to load any additional modules and didnt realize it was designed to be irreversible.
[20:06] <Gadgetroch> i have make the rules in gufw, and in my box for the network, but when i want make a ssh, i don't can on network, just in localhost, in network he said me timed out
[20:06] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: youll need to do sysctl -p i think to reload it. try setting it to 0 by adding it to /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:07] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: it could be irreversable ive never used it myself
[20:07] <shLONG> LIVE STEAM GUYS, DUBSTEP !! http://www.livestream.com/subbassdnb/?rt=1&ra=440738
[20:07] <Gadgetroch> BarkingFish ?
[20:08] <thebrasse> hi! i did apt-get upgrade today on my x220 running 11.04. after a reboot it is extremely laggy and dmesg says: iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Microcode SW error detected.  Restarting 0x9 2000000.
[20:08] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, I am here, don't panic - I'm also in 17 other channels :)
[20:08] <Gadgetroch> ok no prob
[20:08] <BentSpace> Gentoo64: So you've never had trouble in reusing them with a new version of Ubuntu?
[20:08] <thebrasse> could it be that I have installed some new bad firmware?
[20:08] <BarkingFish> Did you remember to open port 22 in your firewall rules, Gadgetroch?
[20:08] <Troke> I installed Ubuntu 11.1 on a seperate drive on my main computer to give ita try(main OS is windows 7) and have been swapping drives. I would like to be able to use both OS's using grub and bootup in a configuration where windows 7 is on drive A and ubuntu is on drive B, where i can pull one drive if needed and still fully boot to the other OS. I had seen a couple of guides for earlier versions of ubuntu (in the 9.x range) and was wondering
[20:08] <Gadgetroch> yes
[20:08] <Gadgetroch> i have
[20:09] <Gadgetroch> with gufw
[20:09] <Gadgetroch> for anywhere
[20:09] <thebrasse> any one else having trouble with iwlagn?
[20:09] <Gentoo64> BentSpace: if theyre the same programs it will just reuse the configs, and update them for any new options. you could just delete it all and start fresh.
[20:09] <Gentoo64> BentSpace: but you wont mess your system up by keeping home
[20:09] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, can you paste a copy of your gufw rules onto paste.ubuntu.com for me please, and post the URL for the paste back in here?
[20:09] <cesurasean1> why can i not get WPA2 encryption to work on this laptop I have? it works perfectly fine on my netbook running ubuntu!!!
[20:10] <raman> vxv
[20:10] <antnash> can anyone tell me how to get sabnzbd to start before I log in?
[20:10] <Gadgetroch> accept my file
[20:10] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, no. I do not permit DCC. I asked you to paste it please.
[20:10] <mongy> I have 4gb ram, and set vm.swappiness=10 yet I have 2.2gb ram in use (cache/buffers have pushed usage way way higher tho) and I am using 200mb swap,is this normal, even tho I set swappiness?
[20:11] <Gadgetroch> ok
[20:11] <penguin_03> Gentoo64, how would i add it to /etc/sysctl.conf ?
[20:11] <Gentoo64> mongy: try vm.swappiness=0 thatll use swap only if extremely needed
[20:11] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: nano/vim /etc/sysctl.conf and add the line
[20:12] <genii-around> With sudo
[20:12] <joapuipe> hi
[20:12] <Gadgetroch> BarkingFish => BarkingFish
[20:12] <Gadgetroch> BarkingFish => http://paste.ubuntu.com/715440/
[20:13] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: add kernel.modules_disabled = 0 to /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:13] <penguin_03> Gentoo64, of course but the syntax of adding it is "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/modules_disabled" ? it doesnt look right
[20:13] <BarkingFish> thanks :) I'll have a look now, Gadgetroch - back in a second
[20:13] <Gadgetroch> ok
[20:13] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: i just checked mine and the line above is the right syntax
[20:13] <Gentoo64> penguin_03: add kernel.modules_disabled = 0
[20:13] <mongy> Gentoo64: Ive heard bad things about using zero.  I can give it a try I guess
[20:14] <Gadgetroch> i come back
[20:14] <Gentoo64> mongy: i used to use 0 all the time
[20:14] <Gentoo64> mongy: ts fine
[20:14] <Kommon> hello
[20:15] <C_K_> hi
[20:15] <mongy> Gentoo64: looking at free -m the cache/buffer usage is whats pushing my memory to nearly full, might explain why its used, but thought buffers would be reduced before swap is used.
[20:15] <cosmic> help
[20:15] <cosmic> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.881-0ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[20:15] <Kommon> whats crackin my niggas
[20:15] <cosmic> ati ?
[20:15] <Gentoo64> mongy: stuff gets cached in ram even with no swap
[20:15] <Gentoo64> mongy: so it will build up some
[20:16] <mongy> Gentoo64: yeah, I just thought the system would prioritise and choose to reduce buffer usage to free ram up rather than hit swap.  I'll give you method a try.
[20:16] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, can you (in a terminal) do: sudo ufw status   please?
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> État : actif
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> Vers                       Action      Depuis
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> ----                       ------      ------
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> 22/tcp                     ALLOW       Anywhere
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> 22/udp                     ALLOW       Anywhere
[20:17] <FloodBot1> Gadgetroch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <Gentoo64> mongy: i dont use swap at all never had problems. if you never hit the 4gb then thees no harm in getting rid of it. set swappiness to 0 see if it helps
[20:17] <farciarz84> hi, android offers lot of streaming dlna tools, like 2player, bubble, avr remonte. Do you know if there is similar tool for desktop pc (ubuntu) ?
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> oups
[20:17] <Gadgetroch> sorry
[20:17] <i2> Hi all:) I'm Ubuntu newbie, I want to edit etc/default/grub file, when I open it and change something then gedit window title says the file is read only and I can't save changes, how to save the file with changes I've made?
[20:17] <Gentoo64> Gadgetroch: that port allowd in router (if you have one)?
[20:18] <Gadgetroch> yes
[20:18] <Gadgetroch> it's good
[20:18] <dameat> Hi everyone - I am trying to set up dropbear and having trouble - anyone have experience with this?
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Gadgetroch: whats the problem?
[20:18] <Gentoo64> cant connect to ssh?
[20:18] <Gadgetroch> i don't make a ssh
[20:18] <Gadgetroch> yes
[20:18] <cypha> can I make a certain filetype always hidden by default? even without a . before the filename?
[20:18] <pensters> how do you stop firestarter from blocking udp
[20:19] <Gentoo64> Gadgetroch: checked the ssh config? made sure you havent got hosts.deny etc?
[20:19] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, - can you try this please:   sudo ufw 22     and then  sudo ufw allow from <put your external ip address here>
[20:19] <Gentoo64> Gadgetroch: what does it say when you go to connect (im no ssh expert btw never use it)
[20:19] <kayaman> i have a problem in my nokia 3110c
[20:19] <Troke> i've made the modifications to boot/grub but its still booting into ubuntu without giving me the grub menu
[20:20] <cesurasean1> ubuntu is asking to install packages without verification, why?
[20:20] <Gentoo64> kayaman: is that a phone?
[20:20] <Gadgetroch> sudo ufw allow what ?
[20:20] <dameat> Troke: edit /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub
[20:20] <Gadgetroch> he said timed out
[20:20] <kayaman> anyone to help me in my nokia 3110c am fail to download operamiini as my mobile browser
[20:21] <Ebron> i2: alt+f2 -> gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:21] <genii-around> i2: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub      ( from Terminal )
[20:21] <kayaman> does ubuntu provide browser for mobile phone
[20:22] <BarkingFish> Gadgetroch, you have an internal ip address, and the external one which the rest of the world connects to.  when you do the sudo ufw allow , you need to put the external IP address after it, not your internal one.
[20:22] <BarkingFish> If you can't find it, it should be in your router setup somewhere.
[20:22] <kayaman> hey guys in chatroom does ubuntu provide browser for mobile phone
[20:22] <Gentoo64> allow port 22 to your internal address from the router
[20:23] <Gentoo64> then allow in ufw
[20:23] <dameat> can anyone help me with remote authentication for luks encryption via dropbear?
[20:23] <i2> Ebron, thank you, it works:)
[20:23] <Ebron> i2: np. happy configuring
[20:23] <BarkingFish> Gentoo64, you can probably help better than me, I need to go for a few moments anyway. I'll be away for a while.
[20:23] <kayaman> hey guys in chatroom does ubuntu provide browser for mobile phone
[20:23] <Gentoo64> kayaman: what do you mean? an irc client for a phone?
[20:23] <BarkingFish> !patience|kayaman
[20:24] <Pici> kayaman: Can you please rephrase your question, I don't understand what you are asking.
[20:24] <BarkingFish> see you soon
[20:24] <horse> hello again all
[20:24] <horse> i have another question.
[20:24] <CrustyBarnacle> kayaman: Depends. If you want to browse files on it, it has to support USB mass storage device.
[20:24] <kayaman> okay pici
[20:25] <CrustyBarnacle> kayaman: Have you tried just connecting it via USB?
[20:25] <tata> for two linux on same harddisk, does need two swap area?
[20:25] <genii-around> kayaman: There is not a specific release of Ubuntu for mobile phones, but some tinkerers have managed to install onto OMAP based phones.
[20:25] <Gentoo64> tata: you can share it with 1 swap partition
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[20:25] <Ebron> tata: only if you plan to use the hibernate-functionality i think
[20:25] <tata> one swap, ok, thank you
[20:25] <horse> im running ubuntu 11.10 and i wanna install xubuntu-desktop. can i use the installed pakages or do i have to redoenload them or do something else to get them to work?
[20:26] <sevith> unity sucks. gnome3 sucks.
[20:26] <Pici> horse: Just install the xubuntu-desktop package.
[20:26] <kayaman> yes it support usb and mass storage  device
[20:26] <horse> nice. thanks
[20:26] <Gentoo64> sevith: what doesnt suck
[20:26] <horse> sevith: indeed
[20:26] <tata> no hibernate
[20:26] <CrustyBarnacle> sevith: classic gnome login :-)
[20:26] <robin0800> !notunity | sevith
[20:26] <horse> ive tried xfce and like it more tbh (im kinda new to linux)
[20:26] <Gentoo64> tata: if you have one swap partition, whatever linux your booted into will use it
[20:27] <en1gma> it is no wonder debian is such a fucked up channel and its users are on a decline
[20:27] <kayaman>  yes it support usb and mass storage  devic
[20:27] <en1gma> they just kicked me out
[20:27] <pangolin> !language | en1gma
[20:27] <Pici> en1gma: Mind your language and topic here.
[20:27] <CrustyBarnacle> kayaman: Have you tried just connecting it via USB?
[20:27] <sevith> Ubuntu has officially broken all my systems. All my compiz settings. my panels....
[20:27] <sevith> Even my wifi has suffered from ubuntu
[20:27] <Gentoo64> i tried debian stable other day. cant believe it only has chromium 6
[20:27] <kayaman> yes now am using it as my modem
[20:27] <Gentoo64> im on 16
[20:28] <Pici> sevith: If you want help, you can ask here, if you just want to complain I'm going to have to ask you to take it elsewhere.
[20:28] <sevith> Unity sucks. Gnome 3 officialy blows. Why do they try to make an OS easy to use for normal non linux users..?
[20:28] <kayaman> and i hve coonect it via usb
[20:28] <Gentoo64> sevith: they arent the only desktops
[20:28] <Gentoo64> seviththeres like a hundred to choose from
[20:29] <kayaman> but a problem is certificates int in a phone
[20:29] <kayaman> n> but a problem is certificates isn't in a phone
[20:30] <Gentoo64> !language | kayaman
[20:30] <horse> ok, ive just installed xubuntu-desktop. what is the difference between "xubuntu session" and "xfce session"?
[20:31] <kayaman> so am i not considered in this chat
[20:31] <kayaman> and why do you want to neglect me
[20:32] <kayaman> ubottu whoo are you in this node
[20:32] <rtyuio> hi there
[20:33] <kayaman> now i get you ubottu
[20:33] <kayaman> ubottu let me leave this room
[20:33] <kayaman> bye uboottu
[20:34] <kayaman> bye ubottu
[20:35] <rtyuio> anyone there ?
[20:35] <Gentoo64> hi
[20:35] <Gentoo64> rtyuio: just ask the Q
[20:35] <rtyuio> well
[20:35] <Gentoo64> quicker
[20:35] <_klk_> hi all.  i'm using start-stop-daemon to run one of my applications from an init script.  is there a way to tell start-stop-daemon to redirect stdout/stderr from the process into a logfile?
[20:35] <horse> ok, lets put it this way. What session consumes less resources, xubuntu or xfce?
[20:36] <rtyuio> i got pc runing on ubuntu lucid i don't know how to install flash plugin?
[20:36] <Gentoo64> horse: xubuntu is xfce
[20:36] <_klk_> i don't see an option in the manpage, but it seems like a basic requirement...
[20:36] <horse> hmm
[20:36] <xangua> rtyuio: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:36] <Gentoo64> horse: hence the x, kubuntu is kde, lubuntu is lxde
[20:37] <rtyuio> let me check
[20:37] <Majin_Ryoichi> wassup my homies :D
[20:37] <horse> ive installed xubuntu-desktop and after reboot i have the old "ubuntu", "Ubuntu 2D", plus now new "Xubuntu Session" and "Xfce-Session"...
[20:37] <arcsky> anyone here has installed mediawiki ?
[20:38] <Majin_Ryoichi> i have
[20:38] <arcsky> Majin_Ryoichi: do you know any howto which works?
[20:38] <horse> so im wondering what the difference is..
[20:38] <Gentoo64> horse: its the same but youll still have all the gnome stuff on the system
[20:38] <billybigrigger> any nfs gurus around?
[20:38] <mmc1> I installed 11.10.  I don't see how to add applets into the gnome-panel anymore.  (Should I rather ask on some gnome channel?)
[20:38] <boxbeatsy> hi, does anyone know of an ubuntu package/project that will allow me to autocorrect blatant spelling mistakes in text?
[20:38] <Majin_Ryoichi> I never used a how to
[20:38] <Gentoo64> horse: xubuntu is plain xfce without all the rubbish you dont need
[20:39] <horse> ok, so xubuntu consumes less resouces then xfce?
[20:39] <horse> resources
[20:39] <ppinto> mmc1: try alt + right click on the pannel, or maybe its left click.
[20:39] <en1gma> since no one can tell me how to expand my 10GB to a 20GB partition in ubuntu vmware....could someone tell me how to move the /dev/sda1 /usr to my new 10GB /dev/sda3
[20:39] <luist> what command can i use to see how many colors are supported on my computer and whats the memory on my graphics card?
[20:39] <Gentoo64> horse: you might still have some gnome stuff running. check top. you probably wont see much difference between the 2
[20:39] <mmc1> ppinto: thanks
[20:39] <horse> alright.
[20:40] <rtyuio> xangua can' t find the package  xangua
[20:40] <horse> thank you. have a good evening
[20:40] <SuprEngr> boxbeatsy, it's because you can't... & can't install widgets wither :(  giv'em time they'll sort it out
[20:40] <Gentoo64> horse: htop might be clearer
[20:40] <TIGER_ruby> hi
[20:40] <horse> uh.. htop?
[20:40] <AndroidLoverInSF> i installed an app via 3rd party repository added to sources.list. Update Manager shows updates for it, but wont let me install due to not being trusted, no public key. How to force it to update? I can update neither via Update Manager nor manually via apt-get update
[20:40] <horse> sorry :)
[20:40] <sage79> i've installed ubuntu classic in 11.10. but compiz is not windows menager by default. how can i boot with compiz?
[20:40] <KirinDave> Where do I get nvidia-xconfig? It seems to be missing in 11.10?
[20:40] <boxbeatsy> SuprEngr: what do you mean?
[20:40] <KirinDave> The manpage is still there but the binary seems to have vanished.
[20:41] <xangua> sage79: use unity
[20:41] <robin0800> mmc1, if your using classic its alt + click
[20:41] <sage79> i dislike unity
[20:41] <rtyuio> hello noone can help ?
[20:41] <rtyuio> very basic question
[20:41] <Gentoo64> horse: its top with extra stuff and color screen
[20:41] <rtyuio> how to install flash plugin ?
[20:41] <xangua> (15:36:43) xangua: rtyuio: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:41] <Gentoo64> rtyuio: apt-cache search flash
[20:41] <horse> k thank you
[20:42] <SuprEngr> boxbeatsy, it's taken the same line as first founfdin 10.04 netbook.  the panel is not for us plebs!
[20:42] <Gentoo64> rtyuio: i think its flashplugin-installer
[20:42] <SuprEngr> *found in
[20:42] <rtyuio> don't work sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:42] <rtyuio> xangua:
[20:42] <xangua> rtyuio: sudo apt-get update , and try again
[20:42] <awaad> I have Ubuntu installed with Windows 7 and Solaris already installed
[20:42] <Gentoo64> rtyuio: try apt-cache search flashplugin
[20:42] <awaad> Ubuntu's grub detected windows 7 only not solaris
[20:43] <awaad> How can I configure grub to boot also solaris ?
[20:43] <sage79> awaad sudo startumanager
[20:43] <luist> what command can i use to see how many colors are supported on my computer and whats the memory on my graphics card?
[20:44] <rtyuio> can't find flashplugin  Gentoo64
[20:44] <lolzer> is there a way to decode the sam file in ubuntu??
[20:44] <rtyuio> is there any dependence between the processor and source list ?
[20:45] <daniele> hi
[20:45] <philly99> flashplugin-nonfree
[20:45] <rtyuio> is there any dependence between the processor and source list ? Gentoo64
[20:45] <rtyuio> there is no flashplugin-nonfree also
[20:45] <DarkLightGR> hi!
[20:46] <DarkLightGR> i have a problem
[20:46] <rtyuio> is there any link between the processor type and the source.list ?
[20:46] <DarkLightGR> i installed ubuntu 11.10
[20:46] <rtyuio> on the repository ?
[20:46] <SuprEngr> boxbeatsy, there's way around some missing add-ons; e.g. xpad instead of note, docky can do some others... but I miss the panel apps being available... most annoying other panel miss is no weather option for date/time
[20:46] <DarkLightGR> on a saperate hdd
[20:46] <Pici> rtyuio: Some architecures may not have packages available for them.  What are you running on?
[20:46] <CrustyBarnacle> rtyuio: flashplugin-installer
[20:46] <DarkLightGR> but i cant see the other hdds on raid 0
[20:46] <Polah> rtyuio, the processor, no. The system type, yes. If you have the 64-bit version of the system then 64-bit packages will be selected for installation from the repos.
[20:46] <ghabit> Hello. I have built-in sound and i have 5.1 sound system with 3 jacks. How I can setup my sound properly? Test sounds don't sounds good. Looks like i cannot hear rear speakers.
[20:47] <rtyuio> well strange
[20:47] <Pici> rtyuio: Is this a ppc?
[20:47] <rtyuio> if not why i can't install flash plugin on my ppc
[20:47] <rtyuio> where i got ARM7 processor
[20:47] <rtyuio> ARMV7
[20:47] <Pici> rtyuio: What does uname -i say?
[20:48] <rtyuio> unkown
[20:48] <jrib> rtyuio: right package availability does depend on architecture
[20:48] <rtyuio> uname -i return unkonwn
[20:48] <Pici> rtyuio: uname -a
[20:49] <awaad> sage79: there is no startumanager command
[20:49] <DarkLightGR> any suggestions for me? :)
[20:49] <rtyuio> Linux Xuser-laptop 2.6.35.4-ecafe-v2
[20:49] <Pici> rtyuio: Anyway, flashplugin-installer is only available for amd64 and i386, not arm, not ppc.
[20:49] <philly99> There is no Adobe Flash for PowerPC Linux but there are two free open source projects aiming to create a functional alternative - Gnash and swfdec.  (quoted from web)
[20:49] <CrustyBarnacle> rtyuio: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin-installer
[20:49] <rtyuio> armv7l GNU /linux
[20:50] <rtyuio> i really need flash player what i can do ?
[20:52] <rtyuio> let me check Gruber
[20:52] <rtyuio> let me check CrustyBarnacle
[20:52] <robin0800> rtyuio, I found it easiest to go to adobes site
[20:52] <dibs> when a window spawns it's under the task bar, how can I fix this, it renders the machine quite unusable to new users
[20:52] <Pici> CrustyBarnacle: that won't help on armel.
[20:52] <dibs> unity
[20:52] <Pici> rtyuio: gnash will install on arm.
[20:53] <rtyuio> yes i also try to install gnash
[20:53] <hellhammer> im using the ubuntu 10.04 and it just hanging at boot showing the scrolling dots and thats it for the past 30 minutes whats going on?
[20:53] <rtyuio> but not compatible with firefox
[20:53] <rtyuio> still asking me to install flash player
[20:53] <peeps> i'm having a lot of problems after upgrading.  many applications just constantly use 100% cpu.  pidgin, tomboy, gthumb. sometimes gnome apps show with empty panes where content should be, i don't know if I should enter a bug for each of these, because i feel like there is some underlying gnome or X lib that is causing all these sudden problems in this release that were not there before
[20:53] <rtyuio> Pici:
[20:54] <peeps> also having issues using gimp, some of the toosl like paint bucket seem to no longer do anything
[20:54] <rtyuio> or anyway other way ?
[20:54] <dibs> how to tstop task bar over window spawn location?
[20:54] <rtyuio> possible flash to android ?
[20:54] <Pici> rtyuio: Are you running Ubuntu?
[20:54] <peeps> the force quit action in gnome panel effectively freezes my computer
[20:54] <rtyuio> correct
[20:54] <awaad> sage79: Okay, I installed startupmanager but I don't know how this interface will help me?
[20:54] <rtyuio> if do cat /etc/issue i got ubuntu Lucid
[20:54] <justsighdudes> Is it a bad idea to have ssh accessible only through vpn? It seems like an excellent solution regarding security but I feel like I'm overlooking something.
[20:54] <rtyuio> 10.04
[20:55] <Pici> rtyuio: Install mozilla-plugin-gnash
[20:55] <propietario> hola
[20:55] <revslowmo> Quick question. I used to use linux a lot when I was younger but what is the correct way to controll what starts up in ubutun. I am using the lastest version. My goal is to turn off the start of X for right now.
[20:55] <BrickBag> justsighdudes: imho: SSH is as dafe as VPN when you use keybased logins
[20:55] <Pici> rtyuio: then restart firefox.
[20:56] <CrustyBarnacle> justsighdudes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[20:56] <MrGizmo757> Can Sombody tell me how to change the default boot item  in Grub.
[20:56] <jrib> !grub | MrGizmo757
[20:57] <arcsky> please anyone help me with mediawiki
[20:57] <arcsky> apt-get isnt the best way to install it
[20:58] <iceflatline> tata: yes
[20:58] <hellhammer> why is my 10.04 livecd hanging at boot its just stuck on the scrolling dots?
[20:58] <chaospsychex> how come my added menu entries aren't showing up on the grub menu?
[20:59] <ex0> did you issue, update-grub2 command
[21:00] <yvanb> I am trying to disable auto-hiding for the unity dock on 11.10 (by setting /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/launcher_hide_mode = 0), and through ccsm, but the dock is still autohiding
[21:00] <yvanb> any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
[21:01] <chaospsychex> how can i completely remove kde?
[21:01] <chaospsychex> i installed it and now it boots into kde automatically
[21:01] <rtyuio> i can heard the audio but the video is black Pici
[21:02] <happymonkey> Is there a way to add the windows name to the scale plugin?  I know this was the general behavior of this plugin some time ago, but in Ubuntu 11.04 and now in 11.11, compiz 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu5, in the Ubuntu package compiz-plugins-default /usr/lib/compiz/libscale.so /usr/share/compiz/scale.xml, this is no longer the behavior and no window title is shown.
[21:02] <happymonkey> s/11.11/11.10
[21:02] <rtyuio> same result with 3 video just only heard the audio, no video
[21:02] <rtyuio> on the screen
[21:04] <ghabit> Hello. I have built-in sound and i have 5.1 sound system with 3 jacks. How I can setup my sound properly? Test sounds don't sounds good. Looks like i cannot hear rear speakers.
[21:06] <apparatus> Anyone here dealt with SSD alignment?
[21:06] <happymonkey> ghabit: did you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound ?
[21:06] <electricus> could someone help me with setting up a vpn connection using network-manager-openvpn-gnome to connect to my office's untangle openvpn?  I have all the certificates and keys and stuff made by untangle.. but i'm still having a rough time getting it to stay connected and i can't ping any hosts on my lan once it says i'm connected.. it eventually just disconnects me within a few minutes
[21:06] <chaospsychex> how can i completely remove kde?
[21:06] <chaospsychex> i installed it and now it boots into kde automatically
[21:07] <apparatus> It confuses the hell out of me. When do I have to do it? Can I do it after installing Ubuntu? Aah!
[21:07] <gsr> Hi all.  Updated to 11.10, then installed the proprietary ATI graphics drivers.  Now I boot, and after splash screen it just get  ablank screen (doesn't make it to GDM).  I've checked top, and nothing is running/frozen.  what can I do?
[21:07] <awaad> How to include solaris in the grub configurations ?
[21:07] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: read this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[21:08] <puwei> how to get in 11.10 recovery mode ?
[21:09] <happymonkey> puwei: in grub use the arrow key, choose the item just below the default option, that should be the recovery mode
[21:09] <chaospsychex> happymonkey: omg are you serious? it will take me 30mins to type all that when all i typed to installed kde was 'sudo apt-get install kde'
[21:09] <markdaws_> Hi - I want to install Adobe Flash on a headless Ubuntu Server 10.04 (the server is going to be used to generate website thumbnails, so I also want to be able to thumbnail flash content), there don't seem to be any apt packages for it, anyone know how to install on the server version?  Thanks
[21:09] <chute> Hello - are the /home partitions compatible between 10.04 Gnome and 11.10 Unity? i.e. can I overwrite my root partition, installing 11.04, and keep my old /home partition? No major clashes foreseen?
[21:09] <chaosr> so, I reinstalled ubuntu to oneiric, only now I have my ugly fonts issue (hinting does not apply to webview) again, and I forgot how I repaired it before, anybody knows? I've already set .fonts.conf and /etc/fonts/conf.d, did not work
[21:10] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: double click on the code box on the site
[21:10] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: it should highlight the entire line
[21:10] <puwei> but I can't see the grub options when start up
[21:10] <chute> sorry 11.10, not 11.04
[21:10] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: then just c+c
[21:10] <chaospsychex> why do i have to reinstall gnome?
[21:10] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: shift+ctrl-v
[21:10] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: done
[21:11] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: because in general there will be left overs
[21:11] <chaospsychex> ahhhhh
[21:11] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: excuse me click 3 times
[21:11] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: my bad
[21:12] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: that will highlight the entire line
[21:12] <farciarz84> can I install apps from android market onto new ubuntu?
[21:13] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: you may want to replace the 'remove' with 'purge' in that line
[21:13] <farciarz84> why not?
[21:14] <puwei> ok,the question is,how to get in grup option ,when start up my Ubuntu 11.10 ..
[21:14] <chaospsychex> that god forsaken command doesnt work and gives errors
[21:14] <gsr> Hi all.  Updated to 11.10, then installed the proprietary ATI graphics drivers.  Now I boot, and after splash screen it just get  ablank screen (doesn't make it to GDM).  I've checked top, and nothing is running/frozen.  what can I do?
[21:15] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: it may give errors as some of the applications listed there you may not have installed
[21:16] <chaospsychex> the  command doesn't even work period
[21:16] <happymonkey> Is there a way to add the windows name to the scale plugin?  I know this was the general behavior of this plugin some time ago, but in Ubuntu 11.04 and now in 11.10, compiz 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu5, in the Ubuntu package compiz-plugins-default /usr/lib/compiz/libscale.so /usr/share/compiz/scale.xml, this is no longer the behavior and no window title is shown.
[21:16] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: what errors does it give?
[21:17] <chaospsychex> unable to locate packages
[21:18] <chaospsychex> doesn't uninstall anything
[21:18] <williamchan_> any way i can use gnome2 w/ the new ubuntu 11.10?
[21:18] <williamchan_> or would i have to install an old copy... like 10.04
[21:18] <osse> Has the ability of adding emblems to files been removed in Gnome 3? I can't find it. neither in Nautilus nor Google :(
[21:18] <happymonkey> chaospsychex: one way to being this process is just run: sudo apt-get purge kde*
[21:19] <happymonkey> s/being/begin
[21:19] <auronandace> !gnome2 | williamchan_
[21:19] <happymonkey> !notunity | happymonkey
[21:19] <happymonkey> oops
[21:19] <happymonkey> how do I pipe that to myself
[21:19] <happymonkey> ?
[21:19] <williamchan_> i already tried xubuntu and kubuntu... kubuntu does not render the fonts properly... no antialiasing killing me
[21:19] <hellhammer> my grub is broken and in a command line only mode and my ubuntu partition is a hdo,2 /dev/sda1/ how can i boot into it from the command line grub is in?
[21:20] <hellhammer> my grub is broken and in a command line only mode and my ubuntu partition is a hdo,2 /dev/sda1/ how can i boot into it from the command line grub is in?
[21:20] <williamchan_> i guess ill just downgrade to 10.04 ...
[21:20] <puwei> sorry for bother you.anyone kown how to log in recovery mode on 11.10?
[21:20] <Myrtti> !msgthebot | happymonkey
[21:20] <happymonkey> williamchan_: wait
[21:20] <happymonkey> Myrtti: ty
[21:21] <Guest1011> #
[21:21] <Guest1011> p
[21:21] <williamchan_> happymonkey: yeah?
[21:21] <Guest1011> o
[21:21] <happymonkey> williamchan_: you want to use Gnome 2?
[21:21] <Guest1011> p
[21:21] <Myrtti> Guest1011: hi, your test was successful and you can indeed receive and send messages to the channel
[21:21] <williamchan_> happymonkey: yeah... gnome3 killing me... even w/ the fallback its not the same... controlpanel missing all the settings etc..
[21:21] <s1> Guest1011: what you doing!
[21:22] <yarrow> puwei:  when booting, do you see a grub menu?
[21:22] <Guest1011> p
[21:22] <Guest1011> o
[21:22] <Guest1011> p
[21:22] <s1> Guest1011: please stop.
[21:23] <happymonkey> williamchan_: gnome-panel has already been ported to GTK3 so you should be able to have that
[21:23] <happymonkey> williamchan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1771172
[21:23] <williamchan_> happymonkey: is that a package different than the gnome-controlcenter
[21:24] <happymonkey> williamchan_: it's the classic menu bar you're familiar with in GNOME 2
[21:24] <frhodes> my desktop is displaying the contents of ~/, how can I disable this?
[21:24] <williamchan_> OK
[21:24] <williamchan_> let me logout of this kubuntu and try this
[21:24] <williamchan_> brb
[21:24] <puwei> yarrow: no, just go into splash
[21:24] <happymonkey> frhodes: ~/ should just be your home directory?
[21:24] <chute> Hello again - are the /home partitions compatible between 10.04 Gnome 2 and 11.10 Unity? I.e. can I overwrite my root partition, installing 11.10, and keep my old /home partition? No major clashes foreseen?
[21:24] <Brutus-> Hi, can you help me to install the java platform plugin for firefox?
[21:24] <frhodes> it is. my desktop is displaying all the files and folders in ~/
[21:25] <frhodes> instead of just regular icons
[21:25] <happymonkey> frhodes: probably Ctrl+1
[21:25] <happymonkey> frhodes: or go to View >> Icons
[21:25] <williamchan_> happymonkey: yeah... i already have that
[21:26] <frhodes> happymonkey: that isn't working
[21:26] <williamchan_> but its still missing a lot of stuff from gnome2
[21:26] <happymonkey> williamchan_: well you have to use it
[21:26] <happymonkey> williamchan_: like what?
[21:26] <happymonkey> williamchan_: you may have to install a few applets
[21:26] <williamchan_> controlpanel... all the options in gnome2 are dumbed down and missing
[21:26] <histo>  chute yes you can keep your old home
[21:26] <yarrow> puwei:  try holding down the shift key while booting.  Another possibility is pressing escape at the splash.  Hopefully, you can get a grub menu then =)
[21:26] <frhodes> I accidentally deleted my Desktop folder, and creating a new one doesn't work either.
[21:27] <histo> chute: worst case you can just move some old config files if you are having issues
[21:27] <histo> frhodes: what doesn't work exactly?
[21:27] <happymonkey> williamchan_: this is a post on altering it: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=118378
[21:27] <happymonkey> williamchan_: thread excuse me from Arch
[21:27] <williamchan_> happymonkey: oh god... i just want something to work out of the box... im just gonna downgrade to 10.04 :) thx tho
[21:27] <chute> histo: thanks a lot - will try that now
[21:28] <Brutus-> Hi, can you help or link to me a guide to install the java platform plugin for firefox?
[21:28] <happymonkey> williamchan_: you may want to try Linux Mint http://www.linuxmint.com/
[21:28] <puwei> yarrow: thank you, I ll try it know.
[21:29] <histo> !java > Brutus-
[21:29] <happymonkey> williamchan_: I'm not used to any form of Open Source operating system just working :)
[21:29] <williamchan_> happymonkey: does 11.04 use gnome2 or gnome3
[21:30] <planedriver> anyone know how to change the scaling when changing the volume of your audio via the volume adjustment wheel? I used to be able to do this through gconf-editor
[21:30] <happymonkey> williamchan_: gnome 2
[21:30] <williamchan_> happymonkey: ok. thx. ill just downgrade to 11.04 then
[21:30] <s1> !gnome2
[21:30] <happymonkey> williamchan_: you won't be able to downgrade, you will have to reinstall, you realize
[21:30] <histo> williamchan_: what are you missing that you want?
[21:30] <happymonkey> williamchan_: just to make you aware
[21:31] <williamchan_> happymonkey: yes i will just reinstall...
[21:31] <happymonkey> williamchan_: ok
[21:31] <Brutus-> hipitihop, thank you
[21:31] <happymonkey> histo: he wants a fully functional gnome-panel as it was in gnome 2
[21:31] <williamchan_> histo: sometimes the problem is just that old ppl dont like change...
[21:31] <happymonkey> williamchan_: lol
[21:32] <planedriver> !notunity
[21:32] <histo> williamchan_: if you go to classic mode you will get a panel. Not sure what you mean by fully functional
[21:32] <williamchan_> histo: still missing a lot of settings in the controlpanel
[21:32] <histo> planedriver: you can still use gconf-editor in gnome3
[21:33] <histo> williamchan_: that's what I was asking what you are looking for.
[21:33] <williamchan_> histo: exactly. learning curve too high. i dont see anything wrong w/ downgrading to 11.04
[21:33] <histo> planedriver: there is also dconf-editor
[21:33] <planedriver> histo: You can... but using it to edit the volume adjustment scaling is broken
[21:33] <histo> williamchan_: to each his own. It's your system run what you want.
[21:33] <supercom32> Is anyone here knowledgeable in audio encoding by chance?
[21:34] <planedriver> histo: haven't tried dconf-editor
[21:35] <histo> planedriver: not sure what ubuntu is using for sound now a days to even help troubleshoot.  They used to use pulseaudio
[21:36] <wunnle> hey
[21:37] <lahwran> anyone know of a place that has the same information the sudoers manpage does, but translated to english? the meta-language in it is confusing me
[21:37] <wunnle> i can't see any effects related to windows and i can't turn them on CCSM. What is the cause of problem?
[21:38] <aawara> hi, i just upgrade a ubuntu studio to ubuntu 10.20 after update my laptotp touchpad is not working, can anybody help?
[21:38] <histo> lahwran: what do you want to know about it
[21:40] <yarrow> lahwran:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[21:40] <lahwran> yarrow: yay, thanks
[21:40] <aawara> hi, i just upgrade a ubuntu studio to ubuntu 10.20 after update my laptotp touchpad is not working, can anybody help?
[21:40] <happymonkey> aawara: is there a button to disable and enable the touchpad, have you tried toggling the button?
[21:40] <histo> lahwran: there is also comments in the sudoers file. If you visudo you will see
[21:41] <aawara> where mate!!! actualy i am new to ubuntu
[21:41] <happymonkey> aawara: this would be a button on your touchpad, it was a question?
[21:41] <happymonkey> s/?/.
[21:42] <aawara> there is no button on touchpad
[21:43] <happymonkey> aawara: is your touchpad connected to a laptop or is it separate
[21:43] <Kage> wow.... wow.... all I can say is wow....   tried ubuntu today for the first time in like 2 years (normally debian w/ KDE).  And I have to say, is there anything you didn't manage to screw up?
[21:43] <histo> aawara: what type of laptop do you have?
[21:43] <ghabit> happymonkey, does not help. While testing I can hear front left and front right sounds from subwoofer,
[21:43] <aawara> current i am running on xface
[21:43] <ghabit> and subwoofer sounds glitchy
[21:43] <gsr> Hi all.  Just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10.  Compiz was acting slow, so I checked and found the ATI propietary graphics weren't installed.  Ran the install, said to restart and I did.  Now, after booting, I get grub, select the 3.0 kernel (tried with other kernels -> 2.6 same results), i get the splash screen, it boots up, and then instead of getting GDM I get a blank screen.  Help!
[21:43] <histo> Kage: lol we didn't do anything
[21:43] <happymonkey> ghabit: ok
[21:43] <aawara> acer extensa 5635z
[21:43] <gsr> I'm on ubuntu 11.10, using an ATI radeon graphics card that worked flawlessly in 11.04
[21:44] <happymonkey> ghabit: I'm sorry I don't have 5.1 set up so I can't really help you on this subject, I'm sorry
[21:44] <Kage> I am talking about the interface... its crap
[21:44] <aawara> sorry touchpad meance mousepad on my laptop
[21:44] <jdtm> hello, I'm having trouble maintaining a steady connection to the internet with my wifi card. When i do ping -c100 www.google.com, I'm usually dropping 3-8% of the packets. I plan on using VOIP and a bit of gaming, so this is a problem. I've tried tinkering with MTU values and tx power from iwconfig, but to no sucess. Any tips on a steady connection?
[21:44] <puwei> don't work. need reinstall my Ubuntu
[21:45] <pensters> Why does firestarter block openvpn clients from samba shares
[21:45] <happymonkey> pensters: it's an unusual service, and better safe than sorry
[21:46] <happymonkey> pensters: are you sure this is what's happening
[21:46] <happymonkey> pensters: if so you should be able to alter the rules
[21:46] <aawara> happymonkey: currnetly a usb mouse is working but mousepad/touchpad is not working
[21:47] <zseller> hello
[21:47] <happymonkey> aawara: there is no button to turn on your touchpad on your laptop.  This is correct?
[21:48] <yarrow> gsr: log in using recovery, and see what grep gdm syslog  says.  Possibly.
[21:48] <happymonkey> yarrow: nice name, great plant
[21:49] <zseller> haha I am just enjoying my brand new ocelot install
[21:49] <aawara> happymonkey : yes
[21:49] <yarrow> happymonkey:  ty =)
[21:50] <pensters> happymonkey: My clients are connecting to the server to access samba shares. with firestarter on it wont even let me ping. with it off I can see the shares.
[21:51] <happymonkey> aawara: do you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed ?
[21:51] <aawara> happymonkey: let me chek on my laptop
[21:51] <happymonkey> pensters: can you view the log of what is happening, do you know which ports they are connecting on?
[21:52] <happymonkey> pensters: /var/log/aut.log
[21:52] <pensters> happymonkey: openvpn port 1194 which is already open. all blocked traffic is UDP
[21:52] <happymonkey> pensters: excuse me /var/log/auth.log
[21:52] <happymonkey> pensters: have you done an iptables -L -n -v | grep 1194 ?
[21:53] <happymonkey> pensters: firestarter won't by default allow pings
[21:53] <happymonkey> pensters: but you can enable pings if you wish
[21:53] <antnash> anyone here use tightvnc server? I'm getting a not authorized error when I try and shut the remote machine down
[21:53] <yarrow> pensters:  some info at http://www.fs-security.com/docs/vpn.php
[21:53] <zseller> what if he would be using ufw kinda easier to set up
[21:54] <zseller> and what about some old style samba.conf editing?
[21:55] <judgen> Big question: Can a 8112L Run on hardy discs with working network?
[21:55] <happymonkey> yarrow: nice 1, interesting
[21:55] <aawara> happymonkey: i dont think so that i have xserver-xorg-input-syanaptics
[21:55] <happymonkey> aawara: install that package
[21:56] <happymonkey> aawara: it's likely your mouse will work
[21:56] <aawara> happymonkey: from ububtu software centre?
[21:56] <histo> aawara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Troubleshooting
[21:56] <happymonkey> aawara: I'm not sure
[21:56] <trl1974> hello. does anyone knows luks encryption, i'm havving troubles and I need help
[21:56] <happymonkey> aawara: I use the terminal for everything :)
[21:56] <revslowmo> Anyway to check the integritiy of files on a ubutnu system. I had bad memory and I wanna make sure files did not get currpted
[21:56] <zseller> awara: with synaptic
[21:57] <zseller> or apt-get
[21:57] <histo> aawara: try gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true in a terminal
[21:57] <judgen> net-boot is limited to certain drivers, and i want hardy on a particular machine. it is an atom cpu, the MB has a 8112L nic, Can it be done?
[21:57] <trl1974> hello. does anyone knows luks encryption, i'm havving troubles and I really need help
[21:58] <aawara> happymonkey: let me try, but i am new to ubuntu and i dont know how to use terminal acutaly, can you tell me where i am learning this thing?
[21:58] <zseller> in unity press ctrl alt t
[21:58] <zseller> the term goes up
[21:59] <zseller> then issue sudo apt-get install packagename
[21:59] <histo> happymonkey: that package is not necessary
[21:59] <happymonkey> histo: cool
[21:59] <aawara> histo: ok histo
[21:59] <happymonkey> histo: I'm out of my element with hal gone
[22:00] <happymonkey> histo: and it's been gone for a while now
[22:00] <happymonkey> aawara: if you would like to learn about the terminal you could look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:00] <TIP88> hi man, could someone suggest me a good terminal emulator? i'm using urxvt but i'd wanna change :)
[22:00] <happymonkey> TIP88: what do you mean by good?
[22:00] <histo> !best > TIP88
[22:01] <aawara> ok happy monkey, thanks for this terminal thing
[22:01] <zseller> gnome term with zsh is all you need
[22:01] <trl1974> hello. does anyone knows luks encryption, i'm havving troubles and I really need help
[22:01] <happymonkey> TIP88: I personally like http://www.tenshu.net/p/terminator.html
[22:01] <aawara> histo: i copy and past this link in terminal but i received command not found message
[22:01] <happymonkey> TIP88: terminator it can arrange multiple terminals in nice ways
[22:02] <TIP88> i'd want a minimal one with 256 color support and compatible with all fonts
[22:02] <histo> aawara: are you sure you coppied it properly with out any extra stuff?
[22:02] <aawara> yes
[22:02] <histo> aawara: copy after the word try and to the end of the word true in my message
[22:02] <aawara> let me try againg
[22:03] <lol> y
[22:03] <lol> hey
[22:03] <happymonkey> TIP88: why not urxvt then?
[22:03] <Pessimist> !offtopic | LOL
[22:03] <LOL> haha
[22:03] <TIP88> happymonkey: because some fonts are shown bad
[22:03] <LOL> i know
[22:03] <LOL> this is very active
[22:03] <happymonkey> TIP88: which ones?
[22:03] <histo> !enter > LOL
[22:04] <LOL> where
[22:04] <LOL> ?
[22:04] <TIP88> happymonkey: terminus, pragmata, sans, dejavu sans, and many others...
[22:04] <Taejo> is there a good xiangqi engine + board in ubuntu repos?
[22:04] <happymonkey> TIP88: can you provide a screenshot of this behavior
[22:04] <Taejo> (chinese chess)
[22:04] <happymonkey> TIP88: in general I've been very happy with urxvt
[22:04] <LOL> so
[22:05] <histo> !troll | LOL
[22:05] <aawara> histo: i try command is run successfully but still mouse pointer is not moving
[22:05] <pensters> happymonkey: trying iptable rules
[22:05] <happymonkey> pensters: cool
[22:05] <w0_> I installed a few indicator applets, but don't know how to make them appear .. ??
[22:06] <aawara> histo: it should be need to restart a laptop?
[22:06] <histo> aawara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Troubleshooting check that and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection this
[22:06] <raven> 11.10 how to enable vino?
[22:06] <MrPink1> is it possible to change the "computer"-window in "nautilus" to show me the shell output "df -h" ?
[22:06] <aawara> histo: ok
[22:06] <lolz> hi good ppl, does anyone know how to change top panel size in ubunut 11.10.
[22:07] <happymonkey> histo: ah xinput list good sounds like an almost replacement for lshal, good to see that
[22:07] <MrPink1> lolz: you need to get to fallback-mode --> gnome3 classic
[22:07] <MrPink1> lolz: after that you can change the panel with the keystroke "alt"+"right mouse strocke"
[22:07] <lolz> MrPink1, is that only way. I would like to change top panel size in unity de
[22:08] <lolz> MrPink1, I try to change font size but it is only minor change :S
[22:08] <MrPink1> lolz: you could try the "alt"+"right mouse stroke" in unity ...
[22:09] <MrPink1> lolz: but i guess it wont change
[22:09] <lolz> MrPink1, is won't but tnxs for help :D
[22:09] <MrPink1> lolz: there's also gsettings (a commandline tool)
[22:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:10] <happymonkey> MrPink1: cool gsettings looks nice
[22:10] <lolz> MrPink1, i will see that (gsettings)
[22:10] <w0_> can anyone point me towards a link to teach me how to install/run indicator applets?  much thx!!
[22:10] <pensters> happymonkey: applied iptable rules. firestarter still blocking tun traffic
[22:10] <pensters> happymonkey: all udp traffic blocked
[22:11] <revslowmo> can't open libvte9 file /usr/share/doc/libvte9/changelog.Debian.gz (Too many levels of symbolic links)
[22:14] <kmentalist> Hi
[22:15] <antnash> anyone here use tightvnc server? I'm getting a not authorized error when I try and shut the remote machine down
[22:15] <jerrysvoice> Anyone know how to get simultaneous audio to both speakers and headphones in Ubuntu 11.10? I is no longer a  option in Pulse.
[22:16] <kmentalist> How do I connect to the internet when there's no GUI?
[22:16] <hammma> Hello, and good morning everybody
[22:17] <kmentalist> Hi @hamma
[22:17] <lolz> hi hammma
[22:18] <kmentalist> How do I connect to DSL internet via Terminal?
[22:18] <trl1974> hello. does anyone knows luks encryption, i'm havving troubles and I really need help pleas pm
[22:19] <yarrow> kmentalist:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[22:20] <Lazy_Pothead> Hi guys, I had a quick question. I had Ubuntu 11.04 installed on my laptop dualbooting with Windows 7. I forgot the password so I tried to reinstall, but now whenever I try to reinstall the bootloader fails to install. I have tried deleting the partitions and reinstalling already. Any ideas on how I can fix this issue?
[22:20] <dommer> question on ubuntu
[22:20] <dommer> in total
[22:20] <dommer> would I be able to run a beowulf cluster ON ubuntu?
[22:21] <yarrow> kmentalist:  seriously, probably easier with the nice pictures =)
[22:22] <jerrysvoice> Anyone know how to get simultaneous audio option back in Ubuntu 11.10
[22:22] <dommer> I'm guessing I won't get a reply?
[22:22] <Ansikt> Dommer, probably, yes.  I see no reason why not, but I would guess it's not the best choice.
[22:22] <Ansikt> Also,
[22:22] <Ansikt> !patience | dommer
[22:23] <Ansikt> Dommer, by yes, I meant, "yes you can build a Beowulf on Ubuntu."
[22:23] <dommer> well, see, this is at my school as a back up for the normal server that saves logs and distributes files and such
[22:23] <dommer> I need it done in two weeks
[22:23] <dommer> but I need an OS
[22:23] <dommer> :D
[22:23] <gsr> yarrow, ok, I got my /var/log/syslog, and looked for gdm.  Line 20, it says that GDM is killed, but doesn't give a reason: http://pastebin.com/RvfpJ1AC
[22:24] <hammma> I'm using 11.10.   Using compizconfig setting manager (ccsm), I enabled the 3d desktop plug-in which automatically disabled the unity plug-in. When I re-enabled unity, I've noticed that clicking an program icon in the launcher with multiple open windows, will not show them all. It just brings a single window into focus
[22:26] <awaad> How to change grub settings of Ubuntu 11.04 to include solaris 10 ?
[22:26] <Jells1> que onda
[22:27] <aawara> histo: i used your link and the command whic
[22:27] <sakilaki> Hi, I am relatively new to Ubuntu and am having trouble figuring out how to view vnc tunneled through SSH on my Android phone.
[22:28] <sakilaki> I was able to set up SSH and connect with ConnectBot.
[22:28] <aawara> histo: i used your link which you are sent me, i run the command and it execute properly, than i restart my laptop but its a same problem, touchpad is not working
[22:28] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[22:29] <sakilaki> But I can only get the VNC to work over my local network.
[22:29] <LPL> hey
[22:29] <hammma> sakilaki: maybe you need to configure port forwarding in the your router
[22:29] <Tetracomm> I removed my panel at the bottom of the screen so I had to create a new one. When I added the "Window List", which is basically a taskbar, it is misaligned, but it won't let me move it even if I right click it, and it looks horrible, help?
[22:30] <LPL> hey
[22:30] <sakilaki> hamma: thanks. I have port forwarding set on my router for the SSH connection.
[22:30] <LPL> whats up
[22:31] <gsr> After upgrading to 11.10 and installing the proprietary graphics card for ATI, I haven't been able to get into GDM.  As soon as the boot splash disappears, I just get a blank screen.  I checked syslog, and its peppered with "Could not get the system bus. Make sure the message bus daemon is running! Message: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused".  Could tihs be causing my problems?
[22:32] <sakilaki> hammma: I think I'm having trouble understanding SSH port forwarding as per this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[22:32] <yarrow> gsr:  hmm.   there may be more info in Xorg.0.log in the same directory.  Sorry I didn't mention this before
[22:32] <pr0d> Hi all, Im trying to build xen 4.1.2 but when I "make tools" i get /usr/include/features.h:323:26: fatal error: bits/predefs.h: No such file or directory. Any ideas?
[22:33] <gsr> yarrow: ok, I'll go get that one too :).  Could the dbus error above be causing these problems?  I also find that now when booting, it tries to setup the network connection, but fails.  then says its giving it 60 more seconds, and still fails.
[22:34] <[deXter]> Hi all, anyone know of a working and updated AAC/MP4 radio stream recorder? (A Google search shows only outdated programs..)
[22:34] <Lazy_Pothead> Anyone have any ideas on why bootloader would fail to install on an attempted install of 11.04 and then on an attempt with 11.10 as well?
[22:35] <[deXter]> Lazy_Pothead: bad sector on drive at bootloader?
[22:37] <launch> .
[22:40] <Jasonn> hi, when I try to SSH into my server, I get this problem: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[22:40] <Jasonn> but it is accessible in every other way
[22:41] <tomasm-> hi, how do I disable system sounds? I go to System Settings -> Sound and can change the beep sound but not disable it...
[22:41] <Jasonn> tomasm-: You have the option to mute it there too
[22:43] <tomasm-> Jasonn, thanks
[22:44] <conntrack> Can anyone recommend a good ip6tables bok?
[22:45] <jrib> !iptables | conntrack (see reference links)
[22:47] <AgentHeX> hi guys.  i recently got a new CPU/motherboard/RAM including a AMD FX-8120 Bulldozer.  every linux distro i've tried either refuses to boot from USB-CDROM or kernel panics.  i have absolutely no idea why.  anyone had any success with this platform?
[22:48] <conntrack> I need something more than a few forum posts
[22:49] <Einooo> how can I make my ubuntu to run my python script every minute?
[22:49] <jrib> conntrack: right...
[22:50] <jrib> conntrack: see how there isn't a single forum post in the reference section of the wiki link, I'm not really sure what you are referring to
[22:51] <conntrack> General lack of available books in the subject
[22:52] <gsr> yarrow: hey, I've pasted my Xorg.0.log here http://pastebin.com/8PYYPS9r   But I don't see any errors
[22:52] <AgentHeX> i can't boot anything but windows on my machine :(  sata lags out and nothing ever boots.
[22:52] <jrib> conntrack: right, so I pointed you to a wiki page and told you to read the reference links (they are actually under "Further Information").  What's wrong with these?
[22:54] <pr0d> AgentHeX: I had problems with my 990fx, I couldnt run any live-usb's either
[22:54] <Yolanda> is libreoffice available for 10.4 ?
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> Yolanda: yes, i used it on 10.04
[22:55] <AgentHeX> i'm able to get livecd to show menu if i plug into usb 2.0.  i'm able to boot memtest and other stuff, but most linux distros either lag out trying to detect sata devices or kernel panic at the thought.
[22:55] <conntrack> jrib: I appreciate the link. But I'm looking for more information on ip6tables
[22:55] <qin> conntrack: There is ORelies, but tautorial on frozentux is classic.
[22:56] <jrib> conntrack: afaik the syntax is the same.  I'd suggest reading the detailed reference links on that wiki page to understand iptables and the ip6tables man page.  Check netfilter.org
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> Yolanda: correction: i used it on 11.04
[22:56] <kbrooks> Hello. I had a question, how do I move the cache location in Firefox?
[22:56] <AgentHeX> kbrooks: mozilla user preferences are located in ~/.mozilla
[22:57] <conntrack> jrib: The man pages give you an outline of the options. They do not go into best practices
[22:57] <pr0d> AgentHeX: have you tryed alternative installer?
[22:57] <Yolanda> MonkeyDust, ok,i use it on 11.10,,but i multyboot,,i can manage to understand better 10.4
[22:57] <kbrooks> AgentHeX, i looked, no preference for firefox cache location.
[22:58] <yarrow> gsr:  true, can't see anything obvious, but I'm no expert.  I think you're right about there being a dbus problem.   This link gives an idea where to look for possible error messages : http://askubuntu.com/questions/30375/dbus-sporadically-not-starting-at-boot.     Hmm.  Can you run 'startx' in recovery?  Just curious
[22:58] <pr0d> which version are you installing?
[22:58] <jrib> conntrack: the links on iptables are very detailed
[22:58] <gsr> yarrow: won't allow startx in rootshell
[22:58] <gsr> but thanks for the link, I think that it must be the DBUS too - explains the hugely long boot time and other hardware errors
[22:58] <yarrow> gsr: thought not.
[22:58] <conntrack> jrib: I need more
[22:59] <jrib> conntrack: more how?  These books are very detailed...
[22:59] <Tetracomm> I removed my panel at the bottom of the screen so I had to create a new one. When I added the "Window List", which is basically a taskbar, it is misaligned, but it won't let me move it even if I right click it, and it looks horrible, help?
[22:59] <dyce_> anyone know of a good software for converting videos using openCL on amd GPU?
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> Tetracomm: richt click just left to it, choose Move, maybe you need to uncheck Lock, first
[23:00] <jrib> conntrack: http://www.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial/iptables-tutorial.html and http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/packet-filtering-HOWTO.html cover A LOT
[23:00] <Pessimist> dyce_ it depends if driver supports your graphic cards acceleration
[23:01] <yarrow> gsr:  hmm, maybe this link may help  http://joshua14.homelinux.org/blog/?p=1029
[23:01] <conntrack> jrib: Thanks
[23:01] <jrib> conntrack: these are the links from the wiki page...
[23:02] <gsr> yarrow: ahh, that's exactly what's happening!  I'll give it a try now, let ya know how it goes :)
[23:02] <Tetracomm> Monkeydust: You saved the day! Thank you. :) *pat*
[23:03] <conntrack> I guess the important thing for me is to understand IPv6 ipaddress blocks
[23:03] <jrib> conntrack: there's a #iptables channel, maybe try there for more suggestions
[23:03] <conntrack> Which at the moment looks complicated
[23:04] <conntrack> Many thanks
[23:07] <luxvitae> hi. what is the proper config file for setting the domain name on an Ubuntu server?
[23:07] <happymonkey> Is there a way to add the windows name to the scale plugin?  I know this was the general behavior of this plugin some time ago, but in Ubuntu 11.04 and now in 11.10, compiz 1:0.9.6+bzr20110929-0ubuntu5, in the Ubuntu package compiz-plugins-default /usr/lib/compiz/libscale.so /usr/share/compiz/scale.xml, this is no longer the behavior and no window title is shown.
[23:07] <happymonkey> above is a compiz question
[23:08] <zander> SUP
[23:08] <diki> As with most major OS versions, like Windows Vista,7 in order to install them you'd need to have a CD of sort
[23:08] <diki> i wish to know though is it possible in ubuntu to upgrade without having the CD?
[23:08] <diki> I want to install linux, but i have no 11.04 cd
[23:08] <LOL> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[23:08] <happymonkey> diki: yes
[23:08] <diki> all i have and i am not even sure if it works is an original cd of ubuntu 8.04
[23:08] <javier__> Hi! I'm ubuntu 11.10 and normally use unity. I would like to try gnome shell, but when I log in with gnome shell, there is nothing on the screen but the wallpaper. No bars or anything. The reason might be I removed them in gnome classic (on 11.04 times). How to restart gnome shell to default and start using it? thanks!
[23:08] <happymonkey> diki: what version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[23:09] <diki> happymonkey:none
[23:09] <LOL> i haev the newest one
[23:09] <diki> but i have ubuntu 8.04
[23:09] <diki> its when canonical or canoncial was it were giving free CDs away
[23:09] <happymonkey> diki: there is a window installer http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[23:09] <LOL>  this is because i am cool like tha
[23:10] <LOL> ‏so whats up?
[23:10] <idefix> hi, with what program can you remove sound from 3gp-movie files?
[23:10] <diki> happymonkey:how safe is that?
[23:10] <LOL> what is tat
[23:10] <LOL> that
[23:10] <diki> will it overwrite my partition or boot manager?
[23:10] <happymonkey> diki: quite
[23:10] <idefix> 3gp-movie files?
[23:10] <LOL> can you see
[23:10] <happymonkey> diki: your boot manager
[23:10] <happymonkey> diki: if I'm not mistaken
[23:10] <LOL> ‬does anybody know how to do this‬
[23:11] <LOL> wait
[23:11] <diki> will it retain the option to run my custom windows boot option?
[23:11] <happymonkey> diki: you could have Ubuntu in a virtual machine if you want?
[23:11] <diki> cause i have a patched kernel in windows so
[23:11] <LOL> ис аныбоды хере руссиан
[23:11] <diki> happymonkey:its possible, but i'd rather have it for real, since virtualization is...well
[23:11] <diki> not really good when it comes to applications which need direct access to cpu
[23:11] <george> how can I get dd to use more than the iso size when copying an iso to a flash drive
[23:12] <LOL> СТУПИД
[23:12] <diki> not piped or...limited by virtualization
[23:12] <LOL> АННОЫХИНГ
[23:12] <FloodBot1> LOL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <LOL> дердер
[23:12] <k0d3g3ar> kick lol please
[23:12] <diki> he said stupid in cyrilic
[23:12] <LOL> вхат
[23:12] <FloodBot1> LOL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <happymonkey> diki: you want to install ubuntu using Windows' boot manager?
[23:12] <diki> he also said "what" in cyrilic
[23:12] <LOL> со
[23:12] <LOL> вхатс уп
[23:12] <diki> LOL:so gtfo
[23:12] <LOL> мп
[23:13] <LOL> и вонт гтфо
[23:13] <diki> Махни се идиот!
[23:13] <kbrooks> diki, not nice to say gtfo
[23:13] <LOL> НО!
[23:13] <Mysterytrain> how can I get ubuntu to be quiet about the new upgrade, whenever I log into it by ssh. (yeah I know I could upgrade, but I don't want to do that.)
[23:13] <SunTsu> Mysterytrain: set upgrade to "never" in Software center
[23:13] <kbrooks> !ops
[23:13] <LOL> wᓴᑦ ᐃᔅ ᑦᓴᑦ
[23:13] <mmc1> how to recall  past notifications?
[23:13] <LOL> wᓴᑎᔅᑦᓴᑦ exᐊᒡᑦᓪᔾ
[23:14] <LOL> ᐃ dᐅᓐᑦ ᕐeᐊᓪᓪᔾ ᒃᓄw ᐊᓪᓪ ᔅᑕᑦ ᒧᒡᔅ ᐊbᐅᐅᑦ ᑦᓯᔅ ᑉᕈᒡᕋᒻ
[23:14] <happymonkey> пожалуйста, прекратите
[23:14] <Mysterytrain> SunTsu: can that be done over cli?
[23:14] <diki> Един бан изяж лол
[23:14] <dibs> how can I stop windows spawning under the taskbar?\
[23:14] <happymonkey> I've ignored LOL
[23:15] <dibs> do windows spawn under the taskbar for any of you guys?
[23:15] <SunTsu> Mysterytrain: I don't know, but you can use X Forwarding
[23:16] <flatline> Hi, I'm stuck in ubuntu-server installation cd's shell (11.04) over SSH and trying to do a install from net, is there a guide I can follow or anyone to guide me through? I'm somewhat seasoned in linux (administered fc8 instances and arch linux)
[23:17] <diki> So, i have a patched kernel for windows which allows me to utilize ALL my 4 gigs of ram without the need of a 64bit OS
[23:17] <javier__> Hi! I'm in ubntu 11.10 with unity. If I install gnome shell, will that distroy unity as it happened when I did it in 11.04 or I can have both of them together working fine? thanks!
[23:17] <diki> If i were to replace the boot manager with the grub will i retain that boot option?
[23:18] <happymonkey> diki: how does the patch work?
[23:18] <happymonkey> diki: you should :(
[23:19] <dibs> when you open an app in oneiric when does the window spawn by default? for me, it's under untiy menu and top bar, is this normal?
[23:19] <diki> happymonkey:it boots the OS with a patched windows kernel
[23:20] <happymonkey> diki: no I mean how does the patch work
[23:20] <diki> That i do not know
[23:20] <happymonkey> diki: owell, it's interesting
[23:20] <happymonkey> diki: can you give me a link to the patch?
[23:20] <diki> its for windows 7
[23:20] <happymonkey> diki: cool
[23:20] <Pilif12p> what would happen if i were to kill named?
[23:21] <happymonkey> diki: I'm using W7 64bit dual boot with Ubuntu
[23:22] <dibs> happymonkey: do you windows spawn under your taskbar and unity menu?
[23:22] <diki> happymonkey:then you do not need the patch
[23:22] <lahwran> I'd like to allow a user to add users and to run commands as other normal users. however, I do not want to allow this user to run any command as root but adduser. any recommendations on how to go about this?
[23:22] <javier__> will happen something with unity if I install gnome shell in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:22] <diki> its a patch for a 32bit OS to address more than 3.25 gigs of memory
[23:22] <boldfilter> Started up my ubuntu 11.10 install after an update and all I get is a blinking curser.
[23:23] <boldfilter> Any help?
[23:24] <ryan_46> javier__: nothing happened to unity when I installed Gome shell
[23:24] <dibs> ryan_46: so you can run both?
[23:25] <ryan_46> Yes
[23:25] <dibs> ryan_46: do you just chose at login?
[23:25] <ryan_46> Yes javier__
[23:25] <javier__> thanks ryan_46. I tried it in 11.04 and it was a mess, many buttons dissapeared and other things. But I think was the matter that unity in 11.04 used gtk 2 and now uses gtk3. Am I right?
[23:26] <maikls> where i could look for help with wireless stuff? It dos not work in 11. ubuntu
[23:26] <intangir> what would you recommend for upgrading my old server running lucid
[23:26] <ryan_46> javier__:  I am not sure. But it has worked fine in 11.10
[23:26] <javier__> ryan_46. Thanks. I will try :)
[23:27] <ryan_46> Your welcome javier__ :)
[23:27] <dibs> so can anyone help me with this window position problem with unity?
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[23:28] <ryan_46> ot ||||||||
[23:28] <diki> *facepalm
[23:29] <diki> one after another?
[23:29] <dibs> any unity help available in this room?
[23:29] <happymonkey> evil, just evil
[23:29] <happymonkey> dibs: what help do you need?
[23:30] <dibs> My windows spawn under the taskbar
[23:30] <FloodBot1> |IlIIIIl|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <happymonkey> dibs: fullscreen?
[23:30] <dibs> happymonkey: it's driving me nuts but not sure if this is normal behaviour.
[23:31] <happymonkey> dibs: by task manager you mean the bar on the left?
[23:32] <maikls> any ideas why wifi not working after udpate to 11.10 ?
[23:33] <Psyclone> I'm having trouble with my external hard drive unmounting itself automatically after a certain period of time, wheter idle or not. Is there anyway to permanently mount it so that this issue doesn't happen, and also I am running Xubuntu 10.04, and after a certain period of time, the output of the monitor turns to a black screen and I am forced to restart the computer, any solutions would be greatly appreciated
[23:34] <happymonkey> maikls: what type of wifi do you have
[23:34] <dibs> happymonkey: so if I open say chrome, it will spawn under the top bar on the screen with the clock etc, which means i have to use alt_lclick to move window out from under to access the max/minimise and close window controls
[23:35] <nunes> hey, need some help here
[23:35] <parimal> hi, i am not able to restore calendar on my system panel in 11.10
[23:35] <zooz> hi people
[23:36] <zooz> has anyone got keyboard backlit control buttons working?
[23:36] <nunes> i need to install some apps in my gfriends computer
[23:36] <dajhorn> Psyclone: Forced to restart?  Sounds like bad hardware.  Start by running memtest86 from the boot menu.
[23:36] <nunes> ut she downt know the password
[23:36] <nunes> its 10.10
[23:36] <nunes> there's a way of recovering it?
[23:36] <boldfilter> Getting a blinking cursor when I boot, system wont boot.
[23:37] <boldfilter> Dosnt show grub menu either.
[23:37] <george> how do you get dd output to be a certain size?
[23:38] <xangua> parimal: already tried reset unity¿ :   unity --reset
[23:38] <dajhorn> boldfilter: You need to hold down the left shift button to get the boot menu on recent Ubuntu releases.
[23:38] <parimal> no i will try it now
[23:38] <maikls> any ideas why wifi not working after udpate to 11.10 ? ;/
[23:38] <maikls> i got 02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev 03)
[23:39] <flatline> how can I install a .deb pkg? would apt-install do?
[23:39] <ErrorsOfMan> double-clicking it should work
[23:39] <ErrorsOfMan> do you only have terminal?
[23:39] <Jeruvy> flatline: in most cases using dpkg will do it for you
[23:40] <flatline> Jeruvy, I'm stuck in ubuntu-server installation live environment where dpkg is not present
[23:40] <ErrorsOfMan> flatline: sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[23:40] <flatline> nor gcc, nor apt-get
[23:40] <flatline> trying to do an installation over SSH
[23:41] <parimal> @xangua - it didnt work :(
[23:41] <flatline> and installation via CD is not working due to a cd-rom drive error I suppose
[23:41] <Jeruvy> flatline: well without a persistant drive I would imagine that would present problems.
[23:41] <flatline> at %72 I get an insert cd 2 ish error
[23:41] <flatline> Jeruvy, I have a persistent drive mounted and ready
[23:41] <ErrorsOfMan> you could try to extracting the files manually and placing them in the right places, but you may get some permission issues
[23:42] <flatline> Jeruvy, also a swap partition
[23:42] <boldfilter> dajhorn, dosnt work just a blinking line
[23:42] <Jeruvy> flatline, if you install your product to hdd, you should be able to get rolling from there
[23:43] <flatline> Jeruvy, I'm trying to install, I just can't
[23:43] <dajhorn> boldfilter: Maybe you need to reinstall the boot loader.  Ask ubottu about !grub.
[23:43] <Jeruvy> flatline, can you pastebin your errors?
[23:43] <nunes> is there a way of recovering the user's password in 10.10? i cant start GRUB by pressing Esc. It's kinda urgent
[23:44] <zmbmartin> Anyone have Wunderlist on 11.10? I tried downloading and symlinking a couple of files like I read at there website but I could not get it to log me in.
[23:44] <boldfilter> weird, i only did an upgrade
[23:45] <pr0d> Ok guys i think i have found my first bug while building xen from source, I have never reported a bug before and would like some help if possible please :)
[23:46] <flatline> Jeruvy, I can't since that machine is hooked up via DHCP and getting that error pretty much means I have to reboot
[23:47] <Jeruvy> flatline, if you're ssh'd in you should be able to grab it.
[23:47] <neonflx> any suggestions on how to get sound out from hdmi on ATI card, using 11.10 and the card is recognized and i can see the hdmi output hardware on the volume properties
[23:48] <pr0d> Ive spent some time on ##xen and had some help trying to figure out what it was with no avail. While building i got error http://pastebin.com/kCG7sPUX .
[23:48] <flatline> Jeruvy, at installation at %72 I get: "Please insert the disc labelled: 'Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release x86_64 ' in the drive '/media/cdrom' and press enter."
[23:49] <flatline> my cd-rom drive is NEC
[23:49] <bazhang> flatline, and is the cd listed in your sources.list?
[23:50] <flatline> bazhang, where to check?
[23:50] <ejv> pr0d: first check if the bug has already been reported, if not, file a report
[23:50] <ejv> pr0d: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[23:50] <bazhang> flatline, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:51] <lSEANl> how do I add my own icons to the dock in 11.10?
[23:51] <flatline> bazhang, there isn't an apt folder under etc
[23:51] <flatline> (on ramdisk)
[23:51] <Jeruvy> flatline, it may be a bug, check this post out for an idea/workaround http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7589348&postcount=13
[23:51] <flatline> is there a way to do just a net install?
[23:51] <lahwran> I'd like to allow a user to add users and to run commands as other normal users. however, I do not want to allow this user to run any command as root but adduser. any recommendations on how to go about this?
[23:52] <Jeruvy> flatline, I've also heard of a USB drive/cdrom may be a solution
[23:53] <flatline> Jeruvy, I don't have physical access to that box, not until monday
[23:59] <Chubcorp> Alright bear with me here, I'm on my phone. It recently switched to 11.10 and I have an external monitor connected to my laptop and changed some settings so that only the external would display, then I installed the gnome shell, once I logged out to go into gnome my monitors won't display anything, does anybody know how to reset to defaults? Ps I can see the lightdm screen.