[00:04] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r53 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com
[00:04] <_mup_> set with transparent retry (using retry_change), correct doc string to note session timeout value is in milliseconds
[00:17] <_mup_> Bug #879731 was filed: Better error handling for session failure and connection loss <juju:New for hazmat> <txzookeeper:New for hazmat> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/879731 >
[00:25] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r54 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com
[00:25] <_mup_> improve retry delay
[03:37] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r55 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com
[03:37] <_mup_> simplify retry, add retry delay to watch op retries
[04:09] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r56 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com
[04:09] <_mup_> test for core retry & retry watch in isolation
[04:11] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r57 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com
[04:11] <_mup_> version increment, and pep8
[04:24] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r58 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com
[04:24] <_mup_> update license headers, add author tag
[11:15] <tauren> just discovered juju, looks cool, but have a question
[11:15] <tauren> can I only deploy on AWS?
[11:16] <tauren> is there a way to use my own servers and virtualization?
[11:18] <tauren> nm, found the answer in the FAQ. https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/faq.html
[16:48] <hazmat> tauren, thats outdated
[16:49] <hazmat> tauren, you can deploy on openstack or directly onto physical machines, or deploy entire environments on a single machine with lxc
[16:49] <tauren> hazmat: sweet! is there a howto somewhere?
[16:50] <hazmat> tauren, which would would you like to do?
[16:50] <hazmat> tauren, we're having some problems updating our docs atm
[16:50] <tauren> probably lxc
[16:50] <hazmat> tauren, i've put up some updated ones at http://charms.kapilt.com/docs/provider-configuration-local.html
[16:50] <tauren> but when you say directly onto physical machines, is there something that will automatically set them up for virtualization?
[16:51] <hazmat> tauren, we deploy openstack with juju onto physical machines
[16:51] <hazmat> tauren, juju uses cobbler/orchestra as a machine provider for that scenario
[16:51] <tauren> hmmm... here's what I want to do...
[16:52] <tauren> I have a single physical server
[16:52] <tauren> and I'd like to configure it to be able to run multiple services.
[16:52] <tauren> currently it has kvm installed
[16:52] <tauren> but i plan to start over.
[16:52] <tauren> what solution would you suggest?
[16:53] <hazmat> tauren, local provider which uses lxc for isolation
[16:53] <hazmat> its lightweight virtualization
[16:53] <tauren> i'm running openvz on another server. i assume it is similar?
[16:53] <hazmat> well its more properly not virtualization.. more like a solaris zone, freebsd jail, or chroot on steroids.
[16:53] <hazmat> tauren, very similiar to openvz
[16:53] <tauren> ok
[16:53] <hazmat> tauren, except in kernel
[16:53] <tauren> nice
[16:55] <tauren> so i could deploy charms for wordpress, etc. onto it then.
[16:55] <tauren> what if i also need to run some java services? my understanding is kvm is preferred over openvz for that. same for lxc?
[16:58] <tauren> hazmat: also, can I scale only locally, or can I expand out to EC2 if my local resources are exhausted?
[17:03] <tauren> hazmat: i need to head out. thanks for your help!
[17:03] <hazmat> tauren, you can only use one provider for a single environment atm
[17:04] <hazmat> tauren, but you can have multiple environments managed by juju
[17:04] <hazmat> ie. test local, deploy ec2
[17:04] <tauren> so I couldn't have a wordpress blog hosted locally and add EC2 resources to scale it?
[17:04] <hazmat> tauren, cheers
[17:04] <hazmat> tauren, no, we don't have public/private bursting, and probably won't for a while
[17:05] <tauren> good to know.
[17:05] <tauren> is openstack something I run on my servers?
[17:05] <hazmat> tauren, yes
[17:05] <tauren> or is that an API that rackspace offers?
[17:05] <tauren> does openstack use lxc, or something else?
[17:06] <hazmat> tauren, openstack is a cloud provider with its own api and a minimal ec2 api, it supports multiple virtualization backends
[17:06] <hazmat> from kvm, xen, lxc, etc ...
[17:06] <tauren> alright... so the link you sent doesn't show how to get openstack going, just plain local with lxc, right?
[17:25] <hazmat> tauren, openstack usage is the same as ec2
[17:25] <hazmat> tauren, google has some answers for juju + openstack + orchestra
[17:25] <hazmat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/UbuntuCloudOrchestraJuju
[17:43] <_mup_> Bug #880023 was filed: machine agent disconnects from zoopkeeper on heavy loads <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/880023 >