[00:04] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r53 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com [00:04] <_mup_> set with transparent retry (using retry_change), correct doc string to note session timeout value is in milliseconds [00:17] <_mup_> Bug #879731 was filed: Better error handling for session failure and connection loss < https://launchpad.net/bugs/879731 > [00:25] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r54 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com [00:25] <_mup_> improve retry delay [03:37] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r55 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com [03:37] <_mup_> simplify retry, add retry delay to watch op retries [04:09] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r56 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com [04:09] <_mup_> test for core retry & retry watch in isolation [04:11] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r57 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com [04:11] <_mup_> version increment, and pep8 [04:24] <_mup_> txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r58 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com [04:24] <_mup_> update license headers, add author tag [11:15] just discovered juju, looks cool, but have a question [11:15] can I only deploy on AWS? [11:16] is there a way to use my own servers and virtualization? [11:18] nm, found the answer in the FAQ. https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/faq.html [16:48] tauren, thats outdated [16:49] tauren, you can deploy on openstack or directly onto physical machines, or deploy entire environments on a single machine with lxc [16:49] hazmat: sweet! is there a howto somewhere? [16:50] tauren, which would would you like to do? [16:50] tauren, we're having some problems updating our docs atm [16:50] probably lxc [16:50] tauren, i've put up some updated ones at http://charms.kapilt.com/docs/provider-configuration-local.html [16:50] but when you say directly onto physical machines, is there something that will automatically set them up for virtualization? [16:51] tauren, we deploy openstack with juju onto physical machines [16:51] tauren, juju uses cobbler/orchestra as a machine provider for that scenario [16:51] hmmm... here's what I want to do... [16:52] I have a single physical server [16:52] and I'd like to configure it to be able to run multiple services. [16:52] currently it has kvm installed [16:52] but i plan to start over. [16:52] what solution would you suggest? [16:53] tauren, local provider which uses lxc for isolation [16:53] its lightweight virtualization [16:53] i'm running openvz on another server. i assume it is similar? [16:53] well its more properly not virtualization.. more like a solaris zone, freebsd jail, or chroot on steroids. [16:53] tauren, very similiar to openvz [16:53] ok [16:53] tauren, except in kernel [16:53] nice [16:55] so i could deploy charms for wordpress, etc. onto it then. [16:55] what if i also need to run some java services? my understanding is kvm is preferred over openvz for that. same for lxc? [16:58] hazmat: also, can I scale only locally, or can I expand out to EC2 if my local resources are exhausted? [17:03] hazmat: i need to head out. thanks for your help! [17:03] tauren, you can only use one provider for a single environment atm [17:04] tauren, but you can have multiple environments managed by juju [17:04] ie. test local, deploy ec2 [17:04] so I couldn't have a wordpress blog hosted locally and add EC2 resources to scale it? [17:04] tauren, cheers [17:04] tauren, no, we don't have public/private bursting, and probably won't for a while [17:05] good to know. [17:05] is openstack something I run on my servers? [17:05] tauren, yes [17:05] or is that an API that rackspace offers? [17:05] does openstack use lxc, or something else? [17:06] tauren, openstack is a cloud provider with its own api and a minimal ec2 api, it supports multiple virtualization backends [17:06] from kvm, xen, lxc, etc ... [17:06] alright... so the link you sent doesn't show how to get openstack going, just plain local with lxc, right? [17:25] tauren, openstack usage is the same as ec2 [17:25] tauren, google has some answers for juju + openstack + orchestra [17:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/UbuntuCloudOrchestraJuju [17:43] <_mup_> Bug #880023 was filed: machine agent disconnects from zoopkeeper on heavy loads < https://launchpad.net/bugs/880023 >