[00:00] <Daskreech> hRRRM
[00:01] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: sudo ifconfig doesn't show it but sudo ifconfig -a does?
[00:01] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: yes, that is the case
[00:14] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: when you do an lsmod does the driver for it turn up?
[00:15] <Linkmaster> Daskreech:  it does not look like it
[00:15] <Daskreech> That might explain the flags error
[00:16] <Daskreech> What card is it?
[00:16] <Linkmaster> it is a Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY(a nasty card, I know)
[00:29] <Daskreech> Which kernel?
[00:35] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: the brand new on, 3.0.0.2 I believe
[00:35] <Linkmaster> *3.0.0-12
[00:40] <hanasaki> how do you just delete instead of move to trash in dolphin?
[00:41] <Torch> hanasaki: hold shift key
[00:43] <hanasaki> thanks
[00:43] <hanasaki> a menu option would be nice... lol.. nautilus has it
[00:44] <Torch> hanasaki: dolphin is not nautilus
[00:44] <Torch> hanasaki: lol.
[00:45] <Torch> hanasaki: settings -> configure dolphin -> general -> context menu -> show delete command.
[00:46] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: ?
[00:46] <hanasaki> in general I like dolphin a lot
[00:47] <Jikan> anyway, Shift + Delete is quite an universal keyboard shortcut for deleting without moving to trash
[00:47] <Jikan> and while I'm on it, is Dolphin supporting scripts in a way like Nautilus do ?
[00:48] <hanasaki> Torch: thanks
[00:49] <Torch> Jikan: what are you trying to achieve?
[00:49] <hanasaki> hmm the disk indexer is beating my cpu and HD to death
[00:49] <hanasaki> :(
[00:50] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: ok sorry back again
[00:50] <Daskreech> hanasaki: You can add it plus pressing shift flips the menu entry between delete and trash
[00:52] <Jikan> Torch : I'm new to Dolphin and I used to use a bunch of custom-made bash scripts with Nautilus (you know, the ones you can then access with a right-click on a file/folder?), and I'd like to know if Dolphin can handle such scripts
[00:52] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: sudo modprobe b43
[00:52] <Torch> Jikan: no idea about nautilus, never used it for more than a couple of minutes.
[00:52] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: well, it ran without complaints
[00:52] <Daskreech> Jikan: I don't know if it can do the nautilus ones but you can make service menus for dolphin
[00:52] <Torch> Jikan: you can script all of KDE with dbus, if that is what you want to do
[00:52] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: lsmod | grep b43
[00:56] <Iacon> Need help here
[00:56] <Jikan> Torch : not using dbus, at least not especially using dbus
[00:56] <Jikan> Daskreech : services menus, hum, do you please have a link about this ? Nautilus scripts are just bash scripts you can launch when right-clicking on a file or folder (it adds an entry in a specific "Scripts" menu), like converting audio or video files, make a diff on two or more files, operate actions on text files or whatever
[00:58] <Jikan> service menus sounds to me more like the nautilus-actions feature which adds custom menu on right-click
[00:58] <Jikan> but I may be wrong (I hope so :D)
[00:59] <Torch> Jikan: i still don't see what you're trying to achieve apart from "i want nautilus"
[00:59] <Iacon> I'd like to get some help setting up an open vpn connection
[00:59] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: not sure what that was or was not supposed to do
[01:00] <Daskreech> Jikan: I thought you wanted more custom options on right click?
[01:00] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: returned nothing?
[01:02] <Jikan> Torch : what I'm trying to achieve is "I don't want Nautilus anymore and I'd like to know if I can use my already made nautilus scripts with Dolphin, even if I have to rewrite them one way or another, but to have them working on a right-click"
[01:02] <Linkmaster> Daskreech:  it gave me some stuff, not sure what it is though
[01:02] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: ok try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[01:02] <Torch> Jikan: i don't think there's anything in dolphin that allows you to right click on a symbol and a script is run.
[01:02] <Torch> Jikan: if nautilus does that...
[01:03] <Torch> Jikan: and as screech said... check out service menus.
[01:03] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: nope, I still get the 'no such file/directory' error
[01:04] <Jikan> Daskreech : a little bit more, indeed, let's take an basic example: I make a bash script which converts a FLAC audio file to OGG with custom settings blahblah, I right-click on my FLAC file into Dolphin and select my script as any right-click menu, let's say "Scripts/Convert to OGG", then the script runs and I get my OGG converted file
[01:05] <Daskreech> Jikan: I don't think you can use the Nautilus scripts. as a drop in replacement. The Dolphin setup has more of a .ini kind descriptive setup. You can make a file that jsut points to your directory though. I think that should be possible. How many scripts do you have and what do they cover?
[01:05] <Daskreech> Jikan: Right in dolphin that would only pop up when you right click on a Flac file for instance
[01:06] <Jikan> Daskreech : a dozen, covering from audio/video convert to text formatting
[01:09] <Daskreech> Jikan: You can probably make two or three service menus to cover each case. So for any audio file you will get your list of audio conversion scripts. For Text files your text scripts and so on
[01:09] <Daskreech> It may be posible to just add a drop out menu that points to a directory. I've never tried that but I don't see why it would be impossible
[01:10] <Linkmaster> dask let me try finding an ethernet port that I can use..
[01:11] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: do you have bw43-fwcutter installed?
[01:12] <Daskreech> !broadcom
[01:12] <Jikan> hmm OK
[01:12] <Jikan> I'm going to investigate service menus and Dolphin specs, and in the worst case I can still install Nautilus to handle my scripts when I need them
[01:12] <Jikan> Daskreech, Torch, thanks for  your time and your answers (and see you soon, I'm back to KDE after several years of Gnome, means I'm a (total) newbie to KDE Plasma, Dolphin, etc. xD)
[01:12] <Daskreech> Jikan: Welcome back if you need any help please ask :)
[01:13] <Jikan> ^^
[01:13] <Daskreech> Jikan: I looked at the techbase and the documentation there is for KDE3 but aside from the switch of dcop to dbus It should be the same.
[01:14] <Daskreech> And you can pop into #kde if anything. I think there should be a listing of service menus on http://kde-look.org which youcan pull down and edit
[01:15] <Daskreech> You may want to look at the copy to service menus provided to see how to specify dropdown menus etc. That would be the easiest way I think to play with specifying your current directory for scripts.
[01:16] <Jikan> I'm sure there's a way to achieve what I want to do with Dolphin, and thanks for pointing me on #kde and kde-look (I used to use gnome-look but didn't have the idea to go to kde-look -__-)
[01:16] <Daskreech>  I do think that having context sensitive menus would be nicer. dolphin can filter by filetypes/mime so you can say things like for audio files show this menu. Then if you have a proper script written then if some new audio type comes up in the future it would just turn up for thatand the encoder would handle it
[01:17] <Daskreech> And you can then have far more scripts without it getting too unwieldly since it will only turn up where it makes sense
[01:18] <Jikan> huhu
[01:20] <Jikan> if I can achieve that, it'll be a mix of both nautilus-scripts and nautilus-actions features *o*
[01:20] <Jikan> once again, thanks a lot, and time to sleep for me :s
[01:20] <Jikan> bye ^^
[01:23] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I'm currently using my 11.10 kubuntu, with a wired connection. this should make life easier. What next?
[01:23] <Daskreech> !b433 | Linkmaster
[01:23] <Daskreech> !b43 | Linkmaster
[01:23] <Daskreech> Do you have b430fwcutter ?
[01:23] <Daskreech> Um
[01:23] <Daskreech> b43-fwcutter
[01:24] <hanasaki> the 3d box is turned on .  when a window is dragged to the screen edge the box starts to rotate long before getting to the edge... how can this margin be reduced?
[01:29] <proust> hello
[01:29] <proust> anyone else have a netbook but find kbuntu runs relllllly slowly especially after plugging in a monitor?
[01:31] <vlgemproust> !alsa
[01:33] <vlgemproust> so i tried kubuntu on my netbook and its so slow i cant even use it, but then i tried salix with kde and it was bulletspeed but no drivers and every single thing is a millian steps. i'm going to try debian with kde as soon as its done downloading, anyone think it'll be a good middleground, stable and decently fast and not as laboursoe as a slackware distro?
[01:33] <vlgemproust> opninions?
[01:34] <vlgemproust> either you guys dont talke much or i cant see what anyone is writing
[01:40] <GinoMan2440> no one talked yet
[01:41] <GinoMan2440> try kubuntu netbook edition. also you could do xubuntu, xfce is much lighter
[01:41] <DarthFrog> Or Lubuntu
[01:44] <Belial`> anyone know why my thumbnail previews would stop working all of the sudden? kwin effects are on and everything else is running smooth.
[01:44] <Belial`> i'm running 4.7.2 through the ppa.
[01:55] <Daskreech> Guest26092: not having any fun?
[01:55] <Daskreech> Guest53632: Not having any fun?
[01:57] <Guest53632> Daskreech: not me
[01:58] <Guest53632> *not at all, my bad
[02:00] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: fixed my nick
[02:01] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: but I'm not having luck with the wireless(I had a broadcom sta .deb package that I tried installing, but that didn't do the trick either)
[02:02] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: and I gotta haul, get back to my room. we'll try fixing it tomorrow
[02:06] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: ok see if the b43-fwcutter works. should pull the firmware teh card needs
[02:12] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: back on my school computer...is there anything we can do about it?
[02:12] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: do you have b43-fwcutter ?
[02:12] <Linkmaster> I'm not sure what that is, having never used it..
[02:14] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: Like, I've heard of it, but never used it before. How do I get my hands on it?
[02:14] <Daskreech> sadly apt-get :-)
[02:14] <Linkmaster> of course, I don't have that option anymore..any other way? Or nothing economical?
[02:15] <Linkmaster> Hmm...actually, I can always wait for tomorrow
[02:16] <Daskreech> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/utils/b43-fwcutter
[02:16] <Daskreech> http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o  http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
[02:18] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: so, once I install it, what do I do then?
[02:18] <Daskreech> grab them now. USB stick if you can
[02:18] <Daskreech> open the last two into a directory and run b43-fwcutter it will ask for the firmware files. Point it at those files
[02:18] <Linkmaster> I have a mini harddrive, but its close enough. Did you need me to download both of those?(I had simply downloaded the .deb from the first link)
[02:19] <Daskreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:19] <Daskreech> you can save that webpage to the storage as well.
[02:22] <Daskreech> i'd have hoped that we would be past stuff like this by now :(
[02:23] <Linkmaster> What do you mean by we?
[02:24] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: do you think I should install the STA driver w/o internet following those instructions?? (since the installation media is on a USB, it won't matter if I rip up the installing media)
[02:24] <Daskreech> We as in people who have had to deal with Broadcom and Linux in the past
[02:25] <Daskreech> They are official Linux Devs and supporters now
[02:25] <Linkmaster> oh..well, I hate broadcom. and this particular wireless card is a PITA, every time I install linux. this is amongst the harder I've had to deal with though
[02:39] <Daskreech> try the fwcutter
[02:42] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I did...and its still being a pain. The biggest problem is, additional drivers simply won't load
[02:42] <Daskreech> well then they need a dependency
[02:43] <Linkmaster> nah, everything else is working fine
[02:43] <Linkmaster> When I go 'kmenu->system->additional drivers' it simply loads for a bit in the taskbar, and then nothing happnes
[02:48] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: would completely wiping it help maybe?
[02:52]  * Daskreech shrugs
[02:53]  * Linkmaster is just frustrated
[02:54] <Daskreech> I know the feeling
[02:54] <Daskreech> What's going on with the fwcutter does it give you any output?
[02:55] <Linkmaster> the last thing it gives me is "cannot open input file broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/wl_apsta_mimo.o'
[02:55] <Linkmaster> everything else worked
[02:56] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: hmm
[02:56] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: sorry re-reading the page did you try the STA no internet access method?
[02:57] <Linkmaster> yep
[02:57] <Linkmaster> that didn't do anything(I had no error messages, but 'additional drivers' never loaded)
[02:58] <new2net> Kleopatra is listed twice in the ubuntu software center (it's a GPG key manager... so ....).
[02:58] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: That's step 2 ?
[02:59] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: try sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[02:59] <Linkmaster> I tried that as well, and it won't even let me enable wireless in knetworkmanager
[03:00] <Daskreech> you got sudo modprobe wl to load?
[03:00] <Linkmaster> Well, I got no error messages when I tried the command
[03:00] <Daskreech> and sudo ifconfig wlan0 up still says no flags ?
[03:01] <Linkmaster> I just tried the ifconfig up thing, and it says "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[03:01] <Linkmaster> let me try rebooting it really fast
[03:03] <Linkmaster> well, upon reboot, I still have no automatic wireless driver(it shows the ethernet sign)
[03:05] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I tried starting up additional drivers, and a KDE crash handler came up saying that Jockey closed unexcpectedly. now what?
[03:05] <Daskreech> run jockey-kde from the command line see if it says something
[03:07] <Linkmaster> well...it didn't run, uhm...to my untrained eyes, it looks like its trying to load the wrong file/something that doesn't exist
[03:08] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: ^
[03:09] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: what's the line that makes you think that?
[03:10] <Linkmaster> well, the very first line starts with "ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for AppIndicator3" and it gives a tracebook to certain files, a portion being pythong files
[03:10] <Linkmaster> s/pythong/python/
[03:11] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: did you kdesudo jockey-kde ?
[03:11] <Linkmaster> let me try that
[03:12] <Linkmaster> it asked for the password, and then nothing else happened
[03:15] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I'm starting to fall asleep, so now would be the worst time for me to continue this. I'll start making stupid mistaks
[03:16] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: Night if you are on and I'm not around check genii. He's pretty good as well
[03:16] <Linkmaster> I will, and thanks for your help so far
[03:18] <phiscribe> whats up K heads
[03:25] <Orcris> Hi liudas.
[03:27] <liudas> Hello Ocris
[03:45] <Daskreech> phiscribe: October 21
[04:05] <GinoMan2440> maybe someone in here can help me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/715667/ < for some reason fglrx fails to install
[04:05] <GinoMan2440> and I'm running out of ideas why
[04:09] <well_laid_lawn> did you reboot?
[04:10] <GinoMan2440> ... I'm honestly afraid to. the last time I did, I didn't have an X screen anymore
[04:11] <GinoMan2440> I had to find, download, and install from the terminal the fglrx driver, which worked enough to get me back the screen afte another reboot but still failed to install fully/correctly
[04:15] <Daskreech> GinoMan2440: as a query what's wrong with the free driver?
[04:17] <GinoMan2440> not sure, last year I was under the understanding that the free driver was behind the proprietary driver. I've never seen anything to contradict that and in 11.04, the nonfree driver seemed to work better than the free one
[04:18] <GinoMan2440> that and my understanding is that the nonfree driver supports hardware accelerated 3D OpenGL
[04:21] <GinoMan2440> I'm honestly not used to these problems at all, normally once I install ubuntu, all I have to do is activate the needed proprietary drivers, and then start installing all the software I want, then start using it
[04:23] <GinoMan2440> it definitely seems something is wrong with alternatives handling of the install
[04:23] <GinoMan2440> but also it seems that there are dependancy issues with the fglrx packages
[04:30] <Dr{Who}> Q. does a good guide exist for building the kernel on a kubuntu 11.10 32bit install? I have built many kernels in my day and I find that getting and setting the running kernel is somehow incomplete. Stuff like /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/build dont exist I had to make it So maybe im just not finding the right guide. Help : )
[04:31] <billybigrigger> Dr{Who}: did you try the wiki?
[04:32] <Dr{Who}> no I have been mostly using google to search for answers.
[04:32] <Dr{Who}> didnt see a specific wiki for the 3.0 kernel stuff
[04:32] <billybigrigger> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#Alternate_Build_Method:_The_Old-Fashioned_Debian_Way
[04:32] <Dr{Who}> let me go read this. I have read hundreds of pages in the past week so maybe i did not sure. bbiab
[04:34] <billybigrigger> the "old fashioned way" is the way i have always built kernels, it's the same in all distros
[04:35] <billybigrigger> actually that looks really effin confusing haha
[04:37] <Dr{Who}> This way just seems so odd to me. I am more comfortable where I have /usr/src/linux -> some_kernel_tree and /lib/modules/xxx/build are the end result. This is building in ~
[05:04] <Daskreech> GinoMan2440: this happened the first time you tried to install fglrx ?
[05:34] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm.... That's weird.
[05:35] <LINKSWORD2> OK, so I just logged on after upgrading to Kubuntu 11.04 from version 10.10. For some reason I can't explain, the volume mixer window pops up, and is set on Mute.
[05:35] <LINKSWORD2> It has done this each time after I've restarted the system.
[05:36] <LINKSWORD2> And I'm on my 3rd restart.
[06:16] <him> hello buddies
[06:17] <him> can any one tell me how to write non-english language in kubuntu?
[06:20] <darthanubis> him: http://www.kubuntu.org/community
[06:22] <him> darthanubis: no buddy acatually i wana to keep my system in english and occationally wana to write in bengali.. so how to do so can u tell me?
[06:22] <him> darthanubis: like AAmar Bangla software in Windows.
[06:23] <Daskreech> !skim
[06:24] <Daskreech> !scim
[06:26] <Daskreech> not sure if im-config will help
[06:26] <Daskreech> !info im-config
[06:26] <darthanubis> him: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu
[06:29] <Daskreech> That's old
[06:30] <darthanubis> someone should do something about that then
[06:30] <darthanubis> or the reader could adjust current
[06:36] <well_laid_lawn> !ibus
[06:38] <Daskreech> Ah better solution :)
[06:39] <Daskreech> well_laid_lawn: could you add ibus to the scim factoid?
[06:39] <well_laid_lawn> I don't have any credentials to edit the wiki
[06:40] <Daskreech> well_laid_lawn: Not the wiki the robot.
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> I don't have any credentials to edit the bot responses
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> either
[06:40] <Daskreech> you do actually
[06:51] <Daskreech> well_laid_lawn: pm /
[06:51] <Daskreech> ?
[06:59] <Daskreech> well_laid_lawn: deping
[07:35] <c-c-m> hello, I've installed Kubuntu 11.10 three times and I find some oddities: 1) refreshing packages takes a lot of time 2)Libreoffice doesn't seem to be very stable: from time to time non printable characters dissappear and the only way to recover them is by deleting .libreoffice folder, but that means that I also lose all my custom information (Dictionaries, templates...)
[07:35] <c-c-m> anybody has found the same problems?
[07:52] <thinhhoang> hi, it looks like update-grub is provding incorrect parameters for Windows 7. How can i fix this? Plzzz help meee!!!
[08:05] <salo> hey doues sb know how the search bar that appears on top of the screen whenever i hit a key on the desktop is called?
[08:05] <salo> i would like to assign a shortcut to it..
[08:11] <rork> salo: it's called "Run Command", you can assign a shortcut to it in System Settings > Shortcuts & Gestures > Global Keyboard Shortcuts > Run command interface (default is Alt+F2)
[08:11] <salo> kewl, thanks!
[08:12] <thinhhoang> can anyone help me? GRUB is not booting Windows 7.
[08:26] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[08:30] <hanasaki> 3d box is turned on.  when a window is dragged to the screen edge, the box does rotate and the window goes to the next screen however the activation border is very wide.  how can it be made smaller so you have to be closer to the edge for it to activate?
[08:35] <stelvio> i che canale posso trovare film?
[08:37] <well_laid_lawn> !fr
[08:37] <well_laid_lawn> stelvio: ^^
[08:38] <rork> !it | stelvio
[08:47] <pasnox_> Hello
[08:48] <pasnox_> I have some probmems on a freshly installed kubuntu 11.10
[08:49] <pasnox_> after the instalattion it said there was 32 package to update. I does the update and restart the laptop ( dell studio 1737 ), and now polkit is no longer workiing fine.
[08:49] <pasnox_> it does not accept my password and reject me
[08:49] <pasnox_> it seem the system policykit settings are wrong / deleted
[08:49] <pasnox_> any idea on what i can do N
[08:51] <pasnox_> i'm using the 64bit edition
[09:01] <clara> Help. The server says I have to change my user name (in Quassel). How do i do that?
[09:08] <pasnox_> no idea for the polkit problem ?
[09:11] <clara> sorry, i am off topic. My computer crashed and since then it has taken about 20 minutes to load the KDE desktop. I thought i could make another user, transfer the home file into the folder of the new user, erase the previous user and now i dont have any privilidges to do anything. Is ther a way to fix it?
[09:14] <pasnox_> i have privileges problems too but i don't know if they are related. if u created a new user and try to acces old user data then it's normal
[09:14] <pasnox_> u have to be root to read the users data
[09:14] <pasnox_> try starting kdesudo dolphin for copying the data
[09:14] <pasnox_> 'kdesudo dolphin'
[09:15] <clara> how do i create a user that has privilidges. i dont have privilidges to use kde dolphin.
[09:15] <pasnox_> ?
[09:15] <pasnox_> u create / manage users from systemsettings / users
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> clara: you'll need to boot into recovery mode and give the user admin rights
[09:15] <clara> i dont have privilidges to use the system settings to create a user.
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> !permissions
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> !sudo
[09:16] <clara> thank you well_laid_lawn
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> clara: if you are new to linux a reinstall might be easier
[09:17] <well_laid_lawn> if you have a separate home partition
[09:17] <clara> I cannot loose this data. i haven't backed it up yet.
[09:17] <well_laid_lawn> k
[09:18] <pasnox_> well_laid_lawn: any hint for my polkit problems ? i just checked i was not member of admin group i added it but still have polkit problems. i will restart kdm / kde
[09:18] <pasnox_> and check again ...
[09:18] <well_laid_lawn> you need to logout/login for group changes to take effect
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> and I know nothing about polkit...
[09:19] <pasnox_> ok
[09:19] <stelvio> buongiornoooooooooo
[09:19] <pasnox_> stupid thing u install fresh os, u install update and all is dead ... :/
[09:19] <stelvio> !list
[09:19] <pasnox_> let restart desktop
[09:21] <clara> Reconq keeps crashing.
[09:29] <stelvio> !list
[09:30] <stelvio> !bot
[09:46] <esmirlin> hi guys, ill buy a computer and i need to know how it should be to get maximum performance with kubuntu
[10:06] <ate34jj> Hi. My laptop's optical drive has been acting up on me for a long time, and now that I want to install a new os, I can't do it the regular way. Can I mess with the disk's MBR from another computer?
[10:10] <ate34jj> That is, can I install grub such that I can later transfer the disk to the laptop and expect it to work
[10:10] <spacebug-> ate34jj: if you want to install ubuntu/kubuntu on it you can install from an usb stick if you have one
[10:15] <ate34jj> I'll try to find one.
[10:15] <spacebug-> ok
[10:16] <alexdevillx> Hi all whats minimum speed of HDD for Linux?
[10:16] <alexdevillx> and Windowx
[10:16] <alexdevillx> WD Cavier Blue is OK?
[10:16] <spacebug-> alexdevillx: sure
[10:17] <alexdevillx> for Windows?
[10:17] <spacebug-> yeah sure
[10:18] <spacebug-> if you need speed then you should try SSD but really any disk would be ok
[10:18] <alexdevillx> 500GB or 1000Gb?
[10:18] <alexdevillx> ok, thx
[10:18] <alexdevillx> so Cavier Blue is enoght for linux and windows
[10:19] <spacebug-> well, I think so yes. Depends on what you do
[10:19] <spacebug-> for normal users sure I think so
[10:19] <spacebug-> personally I would not get a Green one since they are slower and the Black ones are faster but then also makes more noise
[10:20] <alexdevillx> or Cavier BLack?
[10:20] <spacebug-> but this is really off topic here
[10:20] <alexdevillx> I need to know right now
[10:20] <spacebug-> I can only give you my personal thoughts and sure I would go with the blue
[10:21] <jemand> Hi all, since I upgraded to Oneiric my system is cloaked by Nepomuk and Akonadi up to 90%
[10:21] <jemand> Work is just not possible. Waiting for surface action between 2 - 15 sec.
[10:22] <jemand> any clues?
[10:23] <ate34jj> They're all 7200 RPM drives, which is what most hd's are. If you don't know that you need more speed, you almost certainly don't.
[10:24] <ate34jj> (this was for alexdevillx.)
[10:25] <ate34jj> The most noticeable difference, I think, would be how fast it boots up.
[10:25] <alexdevillx> whats more stable
[10:28] <yofel> IMO all WD drives are reliable - at least I never had one fail on me
[10:30] <ate34jj> I don't think I've heard anyone complain of WDs failing.
[10:31] <ate34jj> I tend to lean towards Seagate drives, but that's a habit that's started to show gray hairs.
[10:34]  * yofel prefers samsung to seagate for cheaper drives
[10:34] <yofel> but that's because I once had seagate drives with some power management weirdness
[10:35] <new2net> How do I ram disk?
[10:36] <yofel> new2net: you mount a tmpfs, like: 'sudo mount -t tmpfs some_descriptive_name /mnt' will make a ramdisk in /mnt half the size of your RAM
[10:36] <yofel> with -o size=1G    you can force a 1GiB one
[10:36] <new2net> i have 256kb of ram :)
[10:36] <yofel> uh, kb? ^^
[10:37] <yofel> tmpfs will happily use swap though if you run out of memory
[10:39] <new2net> yofel, where is it ? should be in /mnt right?
[10:39] <yofel> new2net: that's the mount point. you can mount it anywhere
[10:40] <new2net> so /mnt/* is the actual ram disk now?
[10:40] <yofel> new2net: if 'df' shows tmpfs mounted on /mnt - it is
[10:40] <yofel>  /mnt is a muli-purpose mount point that's usually unused, that's why I used it for the example
[10:41] <yofel> can be anything, like /tmpfs, or /var/cache/tmpfs, or whatever
[10:41] <yofel> the folder just has to exist
[10:41] <avihay> afaik, you create folders in mnt to mount stuff in, like the /media folder is used
[10:41] <yofel> avihay: nope, that was *until* /media was introduced
[10:42] <yofel> now /mnt is expected to be empty
[10:42] <yofel> and free for the system administrator to use
[10:42] <yofel> which in turn means: yeah, you could actually use it the same as /media if you want
[10:42] <new2net> I see... how do I unmount it (and what happens to the stuff inside)?
[10:43] <yofel> new2net: sudo umount <mountpoint> - the contents are lost
[10:43] <jemand> Hi all, since I upgraded to Oneiric my system is cloaked by Nepomuk and Akonadi up to 90%
[10:43] <jemand> Work is just not possible. Waiting for surface action between 2 - 15 sec.
[10:43] <jemand> any clues?
[10:45] <new2net> yofel, sweet. That was really to the point and helpful
[11:11] <jemand> Kubuntu Oneiric is the slowest OS I ever expirienced.
[11:11] <jemand> Is ther any reason?
[11:11] <alvin> jemand: It's a known problem. I see it's being discussed on the mailinglist. People are switching to Thunderbird and finding ways to disable nepomuk.
[11:12] <jemand> Thanks for the hint.
[11:12] <jemand> I think I'll do the same
[11:13] <jemand> it's really sad.
[11:13] <alvin> Mind you, I don't think Thunderbird is fit for large volumes of mail. KMail was, but not anymore.
[11:13] <alvin> Yes, it's sad. KMail is the most functional mail client (except for Mutt) I have ever seen.
[11:13] <jemand> me too
[11:13] <alvin> Now, it's buggier than Outlook
[11:14] <jemand> jep. Trueg e.a. are working like hell reducing the bugs.
[11:14] <jemand> Why was it shipped?
[11:14] <alvin> No choice. Older versions aren't supported in KDE 4.7 anymore
[11:25] <martintrs> hi, my grub isn't able to boot Windows 7 anymore. Please help me!
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:21] <hallman> What happened with the "software center" in the last update and why can't I find even basic stuff like apache?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> hallman . look for Muon , it's the new package manager
[12:22] <hallman> BluesKaj: That's the one I'm having problems with
[12:23] <yofel> hallman: SC or package manager?
[12:24] <hallman> I'm using the SC, but I guess it's the package manager I want. Is it hidden somewhere in the kde system settings mayhaps?
[12:25] <yofel> hallman: kmenu -> applications -> system -> package manager
[12:25] <hallman> thx..
[12:34] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[12:35] <kamilnadeem> did anyone found a wroking solution of Kubuntu's mute on startup(very single time) prob?
[12:37] <PasNox> hello
[12:37] <PasNox> i'm trying to install wine on kubuntu oneiric 64bits edition
[12:38] <PasNox> but it try to instamm i386 qt libs ( why depends on that now ? ) and why reinstalling qt while i already have the 64bits version of qt4 ?
[12:38] <kamilnadeem> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3118543.0
[12:38] <kamilnadeem> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3118543.0
[12:40] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, after setting up alsamixer to your liking , check for the auto mute by using the F5 key , make sure it 's disabled , if it exists. then run , alsactl store , in the terminal
[12:41] <kamilnadeem> F5 key to press whetre?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> F5  brings up all the alsamixer ctrls
[12:42] <kamilnadeem> not in my case
[12:42] <kamilnadeem> you want me to go in config
[12:43] <kamilnadeem> configure kmix?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> nope kamilnadeem , type alsmixer in the terminal
[12:43] <BluesKaj> alsamixer rather
[12:43] <kamilnadeem> yeah it opened
[12:44] <BluesKaj> forget kmix , it's just a gui for alsamixer
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> no it opened in terminal
[12:47] <kamilnadeem>  Item: Auto-Mute Mode [Line-Out+Speaker]
[12:48] <kamilnadeem> disabled it
[12:48] <BluesKaj> right
[12:49] <kamilnadeem> alsactl: save_state:1547: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing: Permission denied
[12:49] <kamilnadeem> do i have to used sudo
[12:49] <BluesKaj> now , alsactl store , in the terminal
[12:49] <BluesKaj> oh yeah , use sudo ,
[12:50] <kamilnadeem> Home directory /home/kamil not ours.
[12:51] <kamilnadeem> getting the above on sudo alsactl store
[12:54] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, that's a common output , but I dunno why ...it shold still work
[12:54] <BluesKaj> should
[12:54] <kamilnadeem> o.O , I have tried many things lets see :)
[13:00] <kamilnadeem> Thanks BlueKaj
[13:00] <kamilnadeem> Thanks BluesKaj
[13:00] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, glad to help
[13:06] <oxymoron> any new changes in latest updates?
[13:06] <kamilnadeem> Which updates?
[13:06] <kamilnadeem> no updates today?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> none for me , so far
[13:07] <kamilnadeem> same here (I have added 4.7.2 ppa)
[13:08] <kamilnadeem> but updates are coming in slow(especially on Ubuntu 11.10. _
[13:10] <kamilnadeem> ok leaving guys
[13:37] <avihay> tryed it now with my cat, bad move... :-<
[13:39] <NIX-Knight> hello, I installed kubuntu on my laptop, is there anyway to disable battery charging manually? My laptops is a Dell Inspiron 1545?
[13:40] <Sentynel> hi folks, having some issues with system freezes since upgrading to 11.10. apparently at random, the system just locks up - any audio gets stuck looping, no response to input, etc. have to hold the power button to shut it down. this has happened twice while I've been using the computer and once during the night. any way I could work out what's causing it?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Sentynel, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log , there may be some clues there
[13:47] <Sentynel> BluesKaj: Xorg.0.log.old is timestamped about when the system must have frozen, but the last entries are just XKB stuff. Xorg.0.log is just startup stuff from this time around.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Sentynel, yeah sometimes the logs give clues and sometimes not ..bummer :(
[14:01] <Sentynel> unrelated, but something in the xorg log reminded me - do you have any idea how to tell udev/x that my keyboard is only a keyboard and to stop thinking it's a mouse as well? there are some interesting issues with it registering some of the keys as mouse buttons as well
[14:06] <NIX-Knight> hello, I installed kubuntu on my laptop, is there anyway to disable battery charging manually? My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1545?
[14:07] <dbc254> what is the easiest way to clone a disk to an external backup drive? Apps, settings, etc.
[14:14] <phunyguy_netbook> ok so how do I disable this KDE netbook interface?
[14:14] <phunyguy_netbook> 11.10
[14:15] <avihay> phunyguy_netbook: in system settings
[14:15] <phunyguy_netbook> tried that in workspace behavior, but it didn't present a desktop, instead it crashed
[14:15] <phunyguy_netbook> thinking there are more settings
[14:16] <avihay> workspace appearance and behaviour->workspace behaviour->workspace->workspace type
[14:16] <phunyguy_netbook> yes i changed that, avihay, but it didn't work properly
[14:17] <phunyguy_netbook> when it came back, I had a blank desktop, and a blank panel
[14:17] <phunyguy_netbook> so i dropped to a shell, did rm -rf .kde - and then logged in
[14:17] <avihay> well, that's the setting that changes it for me, actually, I didn't try 10.11 yet
[14:17] <phunyguy_netbook> ...netbook interface was back
[14:18] <avihay> that's not surprising.
[14:18] <phunyguy_netbook> maybe there is a package or two to uninstall?
[14:18] <avihay> do it again, remove the blank panel, add a "default panel" and you should be set
[14:19] <phunyguy_netbook> aight - bbiab
[14:19] <avihay> you don't even need to logoff
[14:20] <phunyguy_netbook> aahahahaha, it worked that time.
[14:20] <phunyguy_netbook> errr
[14:20] <phunyguy_netbook> yeah it worked that time
[14:21] <phunyguy_netbook> some stuff is still funky though, missing minimize button on corner
[14:22] <avihay> umm in the window decorations?
[14:22] <phunyguy_netbook> yeah... prolly gonna be a few other things too that I have to tweak
[14:23] <avihay> weird
[14:25] <phunyguy_netbook> hmmm... how do you move a panel?
[14:25] <phunyguy_netbook> wth.
[14:28] <avihay> you hit that cashaw button, then you can change the screen edge, as well as panel height, and limits. more options in the more options...
[14:30] <phunyguy_netbook> no option in there to actually move the panel
[14:30] <phunyguy_netbook> oh wait, screen edge
[14:30] <phunyguy_netbook> ahahaha there we go
[14:30] <phunyguy_netbook> sweet
[14:30] <phunyguy_netbook> <---noob
[14:31] <Inadaptado> It took me a few guesses too
[14:33] <phunyguy_netbook> there, disabled the stupid netbook interface, but kept the top bar the same, and added the classic kmenu
[14:34] <phunyguy_netbook> win.
[14:35] <Inadaptado> I just move it the bar to the left. Nobody thinks of panoramic screens
[14:35] <phunyguy_netbook> panoramic?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Inadaptado, I do side panels aren't for me
[14:36] <Inadaptado> That's not the right word, is it? I'll look for the correct translation
[14:37] <Inadaptado> Oooh, right, widescreens
[14:37] <BluesKaj> we have nothing but widescreens here
[14:40] <phunyguy_netbook> yeah i dont mind a top or bottom as long as it is nonintrusive
[14:40] <avihay> I use a bottom pannle because I do alot of window switching through it. stupid KDE bug alt-tabbing doesn't scroll down when you pass the screen edge. thought a major issue like that will get resolved the next monthly release, but it's like that for years
[14:40] <Inadaptado> I feel more comfortable with the bar at my left. But that's just me
[14:40] <phunyguy_netbook> and i like the ability for the netbook interface where it integrated the menubars, and has a drop down list for running app;lications to keep the bar uncluttered
[14:41] <phunyguy_netbook> i just hated search and launch
[14:42] <avihay> I like Lancelot with the no-click interface instead of the normal kmenu
[14:45] <phunyguy_netbook> only thing left to do is remove the titlebar from active windows... any hints?
[14:45] <phunyguy_netbook> the application switcher has what I need
[15:29] <jemand> ;-(   Any hints for "harm reduction" of Oneiric?
[15:29] <jemand> On my Thinkpad T61 it sucks up more or less all (90%) of my CPUs.
[15:34] <Treibholz> hi, I just tried to setup Kontact with a davical-server. But Kontact tells, me that it doesn't work. Can I somhow go in a debug-mode, where I may get more information why it isn't working?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> jemand, check in system monitor/process table, to see what's using up your resources
[15:38] <excognac> hi all
[15:41] <excognac> Is anyone else the following problem SINCE UPDATE to 11.10: sometimes System tray does react terribly slowly or does not react at all while clicking on it?
[15:43] <excognac> *is anyone else having
[15:47] <jemand> YES, me
[15:48] <excognac> ok, have you investigated the possible reasons already?
[15:50] <jemand> Guess who eats my ressources (~90% of it)?
[15:50] <jemand> It's Nepomuk & children  and   akonadi_control & children
[15:50] <excognac> I see. So getting rid of them might help?
[15:52] <jemand> I try to get an impression of what will be the consequences.
[15:52] <jemand> I Thin Kmail won't work.
[15:52] <jemand> Am I right?
[15:53] <excognac> Well, I don't use a mailing system but since Akonadi has your contactlist then it's highly probable
[15:53] <jemand> ;-((
[15:53] <athena_> Does anybody know the usage of package 'libreoffice-kde' in the official archive?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> jemand:  how long has akonadi been running or is it idle now ...it could be nepomuk that's indexing files and using your cpu resources
[15:55] <athena_> I purged the package but I saw nothing changed when using libreoffice in kde.
[15:56] <avihay> you can see what files the package puts when installed
[15:56] <jemand> BluesKaj: I let it run overnight. Still crawling like hell as soon as I open Kontact
[15:57] <BluesKaj> jemand:  do you need kontact and kmail ?
[15:57] <jemand> well I was used to have all things together in Kontact (which incl. kmail)
[15:57] <athena_> the kmail is crashing on my computer since i upgraded to Oneric
[15:58] <BluesKaj> I ran kmail for a day or 2 without akonadi running and it was fine , but that was just an experiment ,,,I had no contact list setup.
[15:59] <jemand> athena_:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2
[15:59] <jemand> worked fine for me
[15:59] <BluesKaj> bbiab ...gonna switch back to konversation..quassel isn't my cuppa tea.
[16:01] <ironfroggy> Can anyone point me to help loosing flash playback after an 11.10 update?
[16:02] <ironfroggy> i still had flashplugin-nonfree installed, so i tried to uninstall it and reinstall, now i cant get it at all. (Not candidate version)
[16:02] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, 64 bit ?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree is no longer used , it's flashplugin-installer now, ironfroggy
[16:04] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, if you run 64 bit , then make sure you install multiarch ...it should installed by default tho
[16:07] <ironfroggy> thanks i'll try that
[16:10] <MalfermitaKodo> hi
[16:13] <MalfermitaKodo> Stupid question: why is there no xorg.conf anymore? What is used instead? How can I configure that to allow the Crtl-Alt-Backspace shortcut?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> MalfermitaKodo, don't think that key combo works anymore
[16:15] <MalfermitaKodo> what?
[16:15] <MalfermitaKodo> so what do you do now to kill a wonky X11?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> hmm, dropto tty then restart X?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> MalfermitaKodo, dunno of any other method ...there may be one but I can't recall it
[16:17] <Belial`> does anyone have thumbnail previews not working for the taskbar? they're checked in kwin, and all other effects are working. the thumbnail previews were originally working without a problem.
[16:17] <MalfermitaKodo> I mean... when X11 crashes
[16:17] <avihay> well, there is still an option in xkb to kill x with that combo. I also remember seeing that don't zap option somewhere totally unrelated somewhere in the kde control panel
[16:18] <avihay> I also find myself useing alt+SysRequest(printscreen)+k to kill x
[16:18] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt +F1 or F2 etc , drops to a TTY ,
[16:19] <MalfermitaKodo> bah
[16:19] <MalfermitaKodo> where is Sysrequest on a Mac?
[16:21] <avihay> I don't think hamburgers come with a keyboard (didn't stare at a mac long enough to know the layout)
[16:25] <BluesKaj> my wireless KB doesn't have sysreq key
[16:27] <BluesKaj> prtscn is a substitute according to the wiki
[16:49] <avihay> it's the same key
[16:49] <avihay> it's either labaled sysreq or printscreen or both
[17:27] <sopacool> i tried to install mdadm, but it turned up like a mailserver
[17:27] <sopacool> wtf
[17:28] <sopacool> can someone please tell me whats wrong
[17:29] <sopacool> i did : sudo apt-get install mdadm
[17:52] <kerloi> Hi all. I'm trying to install a virtual piano on my kubuntu system but the sound doesn't work either with vmpk or drumstick. Is there anything configuration step to ?
[17:53] <kerloi> Of course I have no error and absolutely no inforamtion about what's wrong with them. I tried to start them from the konsole but I don't have any output.
[17:55] <kerloi> I don't know anything about midi player. So I really don't know if I should configure something before using these programs ...
[17:58] <avihay> kerloi: I've had a problem trying to make sound out of virtual piano software. you need to look for something called jack, I think
[18:03] <kerloi> avihay: What is it a software ?
[18:04] <avihay> yes. you seem to need to connect your virtual piano to an output device before you can actually hear it. I guess it was ment for something more complex
[18:05] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[18:05] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj  you there?
[18:06] <kamilnadeem> did anyone found a wroking solution of Kubuntu's mute on startup(every single time) prob?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> yup kamilnadeem , I'm here ...so the auto mute is still enabled ?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> oops..was raking leaves , so I missed him
[18:22] <phunyguy_netbook> How do you disable ALL titlebars in KDE? To see what I am talking about, in any active window, press alt-f3, select advanced, and select "No Border"
[18:22] <phunyguy_netbook> that does current window, but i want them all gone when fullscreen
[18:25] <bencc> how does kubuntu compares to unity in terms of performance and RAM usage?
[18:25] <phunyguy_netbook> apples and orangesbencc
[18:25] <bencc> I'm using ubuntu in vbox and 11.10 is very slow
[18:25] <phunyguy_netbook> err apples and oranges bencc
[18:26] <bencc> phunyguy_netbook: why? isn't it the same core with different ui?
[18:26] <Linkmaster> I take it that openGL ES is about as close as we can get to running Wayland at the moment?
[18:26] <phunyguy_netbook> well i find the resource usage is about the same, and KDE is much more customizeable
[18:27] <phunyguy_netbook> but the KDE apps are buggy at best
[18:27] <bencc> phunyguy_netbook: I don't care about customization. I want the basic stuff like editor and file manager to work
[18:27] <bencc> and that it'll be compatible with ubuntu server - same packages
[18:28] <Duda> a
[18:28] <bencc> just tried lubuntu. It has low resource usage but the UI have bugs
[18:31] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: ping
[18:31] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: Pong
[18:32] <Daskreech> bencc: you could run fluxbox
[18:32] <Linkmaster> I'm going to reinstall 11.10, and tell it to reformat my partition selections. Then, I'll bring the fresh installation down to the ethernet port, and hopefully we won't have any issues this time around
[18:33] <bencc> Daskreech: never heard of it. probably a good sign :)
[18:33] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: Alright
[18:33] <phunyguy_netbook> bench, then go with unity.,
[18:33] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I think a fresh installation would help, I've put three systems on the same partition, and it might be degrading
[18:34] <phunyguy_netbook> samba shares worked better :)
[18:34] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: :-) maybe
[18:36] <Linkmaster> I love how easy it is to install Kubuntu now. Once I set it all up, just leave it be till it prompts for the restart. So easy. Daskreech, I'll ping you when its done, I'm going to be back later
[18:36] <Daskreech> Ok
[18:47] <kartick> can u tell me how can i convert an image from jpeg to png???
[18:48] <kartick> how r u??
[18:48] <kartick> wel come to all of u
[18:49] <kartick> can u tell me how can i convert an image from jpeg to png???
[18:50] <kartick> can any one  tell me how can i convert an image from jpeg to png???
[18:52] <Colamann> kart, try http://www.coolutils.com/online/image-converter/
[18:56] <tommaso> hi ... i neeb help .. i see only black screen
[18:57] <BarkingFish> tommaso, where do you see the black screen? During loading, or after loading? Is there any text on it?
[18:58] <tommaso> after installatin
[18:58] <tommaso> i have install ubuntu
[18:58] <BarkingFish> which version, tommaso?
[18:58] <tommaso> after i have installed kubuntu
[18:58] <tommaso> 11.10
[18:59] <tommaso> when fist start kubuntu ...
[18:59] <tommaso> the sistem operation
[18:59] <tommaso> to block after the 4° icons to load
[18:59] <tommaso> (sorry for my english)
[19:00] <BarkingFish> tommaso, what is your first language?
[19:00] <tommaso> italian
[19:00] <BarkingFish> aha. one moment
[19:00] <tommaso> but in italy ... are alone
[19:00] <BarkingFish> hm
[19:01] <BarkingFish> so we have an italian help channel, with nobody helping in it...
[19:04] <avihay> I have a problem, sometimes my compositing doesn't work and leaves me with a blank screen. and a mouse cursor. disabling composting makes it work normally. tommaso, try to disable composting with the shortcut (ctrl+alt+f12 by default, I think)
[19:04] <tommaso> control alt f2 ?
[19:05] <tommaso> but i seee only black terminal
[19:05] <tommaso> i can talk in english
[19:05] <tommaso> don't worry
[19:06] <BarkingFish> tommaso, It's ok, I was just trying to find someone who would help you in your own language, just to make it easier for you :)
[19:06] <tommaso> ok
[19:06] <BarkingFish> My Italian is a whole lot worse than your English :)
[19:06] <tommaso> :-)
[19:06] <avihay> tommaso: F12, not f2
[19:20] <chronos> what is the best stuff to replace old Kopete?
[19:22] <KingSphinx> Old Kopete? Do you mean that literally or just referring to Kopete as dated? (Not arguing or anything, just a bit comfused)
[19:22] <KingSphinx> er, *confused
[19:22] <chronos> KingSphinx: kopete is dated hehe
[19:23] <chronos> it works, but we need something better :), since have many time I don't use linux I'm here asking
[19:23] <chronos> I want something like gtalk in windows. Clean, very fast
[19:23] <KingSphinx> Well, as far as I know, KDE's working on something like KDE Telepathy that integrates messaging right into the desktop, but I don't know how far that's come yet.
[19:23] <chronos> but multi protocol
[19:25] <KingSphinx> If you're looking KDE-native, I can't really help, because the only think that's coming to mind for me right now is Pidgin, and that's GTK-based...
[19:26] <chronos> hm, I see
[19:26] <chronos> I tried gnome and unity but not works for me hehe
[19:27] <chronos> brb
[19:28] <KingSphinx> Yeah, I've sort of grown fed up with Unity and GNOME, which is why I made the "leap" to KDE (I put it in quotes because I'm already familiar with everything, I just never had the nerve to ditch GNOME before though)
[19:29] <chronos> I used gnome with openbox for a while some years ago
[19:30] <chronos> but since I'm using mostly windows last year (because company), I see that windows is very simple in some points, like kde can be
[19:46] <tommaso> i come back
[19:50] <tommaso> BarkingFish please help :-(
[19:51] <BarkingFish> I don't know what is wrong, tommaso - I have looked a lot of things over, and can't figure out what is wrong.
[19:51] <BarkingFish> Guys, someone please help tommaso to get his install working.  I have no idea what is wrong with it.
[19:52] <tommaso> i see ttyl
[19:52] <tommaso> whit login ... in black screen
[19:52] <tommaso> if i try to reboot ... i don't see the launcer
[19:53] <tommaso> only the black screen
[19:54] <valedroid> hol
[19:54] <tommaso> how do I restore the login? or to return to the old workplace Ubuntu
[20:06] <tommaso> please help ... i have install kubuntu ... when reboot i see a black screen
[20:14] <tommaso> please help ... i have install kubuntu ... when reboot i see a black screen
[20:16] <yofel> tommaso: how far does it get? do you see the boot splash?
[20:16] <tommaso> no i don't see the login splash
[20:16] <yofel> no, the splash comes before the login screen
[20:17] <tommaso> i see ttyl with login in black screen
[20:17] <yofel> what *do* you see - the bios init screen comes up, and then?
[20:17] <tommaso> no i don't see
[20:18] <tommaso> I installed ubuntu and it worked
[20:18] <tommaso> later I wanted to try Kubuntu
[20:19] <BarkingFish> yofel, i think he's saying KDM doesn't start. That's what I gathered from earlier
[20:19] <yofel> then he should still see the splash before KDM
[20:19] <tommaso> the installation went ok ... went off the log. I entered username and password. Then he stopped.
[20:20] <yofel> wait... you have the login screen?
[20:20] <tommaso> no
[20:20] <Trabaiador> how i connect in rizon.net?
[20:20] <yofel> uh... you just said you entered username and password
[20:20] <tommaso> i have a black screen
[20:20] <tommaso> whit login ...
[20:20] <yofel> tommaso: which client?
[20:20] <yofel> erm
[20:20] <yofel> Trabaiador: which client?
[20:20] <lester_> hi
[20:21] <lester_> hola
[20:21] <tommaso> ttyl
[20:21] <BarkingFish> yofel, want me to help Trabaiador?
[20:21] <tommaso> i see: Ubuntu 11.10 namepc ttyl
[20:22] <tommaso> namepc login
[20:22] <BarkingFish> Trabaiador, could you tell me which IRC client you're using please?
[20:22] <Trabaiador> BarkingFish: quassel irc
[20:22] <tommaso> this are another pc
[20:22] <yofel> tommaso: ok, so you're on a TTY right now?
[20:23] <tommaso> yes
[20:23] <tommaso> yofel yes ... i'm are with tty
[20:24] <yofel> tommaso: ok, and logged in?
[20:24] <BarkingFish> Trabaiador, click File, then Configure Networks
[20:24] <tommaso> yes ... i'm logged in
[20:24] <BarkingFish> Trabaiador, once you've done that, in the top box, click the Add button, and in the next window, click "Manually specify network settings"
[20:25] <Trabaiador> BarkingFish: ok
[20:25] <tommaso> yofel i'm logged in
[20:25] <yofel> tommaso: ok, does 'sudo service kdm restart' do anything?
[20:25] <BarkingFish> The settings you need are:  Server name: irc.rizon.no   Port 6667  (6697 if you're using SSL), Trabaiador
[20:25] <yofel> type it in without  the quotes
[20:26] <yofel> Trabaiador: BarkingFish just told you the port
[20:26] <tommaso> yofel start/running process 2590
[20:26] <tommaso> yofel now reboot?
[20:26] <yofel> tommaso: hm, ok, now press ctrl+alt+f7
[20:26] <yofel> what do you see?
[20:27] <tommaso> mmm noting
[20:27] <yofel> ctrl+alt+f8 - now?
[20:27] <tommaso> one momente i reboot
[20:27] <yofel> no
[20:28] <Trabaiador> thanks
[20:28] <yofel> don't reboot
[20:28] <Trabaiador> yofel:  BarkingFish thanks =)
[20:28] <tommaso> ok
[20:28] <yofel> tommaso: go back to the TTY
[20:28] <tommaso> yes dont' reboot
[20:28] <yofel> tommaso: what does 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager' say?
[20:29] <tommaso> nothing
[20:29] <BarkingFish> Trabaiador, For the network name, just type Rizon, put the server name in the "Server address" box
[20:29] <tommaso> control alt f8
[20:29] <yofel> tommaso: can't be, did you enter it right?
[20:29] <BarkingFish> Trabaiador, no problem
[20:29] <BarkingFish> Remember that Rizon use nickserv, like us, so you can identify there if you have an account in the same way we do here
[20:29] <yofel> tommaso: erm, back to the tty you were on before please
[20:29] <tommaso> i'm are in tty
[20:30] <yofel> tommaso: ok, run: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:30] <yofel> and it will not return nothing
[20:30] <BarkingFish> if you're set up right, the response should be /usr/bin/kdm
[20:31] <tommaso> ok ...
[20:31] <tommaso> i see many lines
[20:31] <yofel> no, it will only print ONE line
[20:31] <tommaso> crun zrun runq
[20:32] <tommaso> sorry
[20:32] <tommaso> run don't found
[20:33] <BarkingFish> you don't type the run: part - just type what I put on the next line...
[20:33] <yofel> tommaso: no, run wasn't part of the command, please execute the following line:
[20:33] <yofel> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:33] <BarkingFish> ^^
[20:33] <BarkingFish> sorry yofel, I'll butt out :)
[20:34] <tommaso> file o directory don't exsist
[20:34] <yofel> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:34] <yofel> if it says that you didn't type it right
[20:35] <tommaso> mmm
[20:36] <tommaso> i see /usr/bin/kdm
[20:36] <yofel> ok, so far correct
[20:36] <tommaso> now?
[20:37] <yofel> tommaso: does that system have a wired network connection?
[20:37] <tommaso> yes
[20:37] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: ping
[20:37] <tommaso> this sistem have ubuntu 11.04
[20:37] <tommaso> sorry
[20:37] <tommaso> ubuntu 11.10
[20:38] <tommaso> ubuntu work perfettly
[20:38] <yofel> tommaso: I mean, does the non-functional system have internet connection?
[20:38] <tommaso> yes... have a wi-fi
[20:39] <tommaso> same wi-fi lan
[20:39] <BarkingFish> brb
[20:40] <tommaso> if you want i can connect with eternet
[20:41] <yofel> tommaso: would be nice, after you did that, run this:
[20:41] <yofel> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:41] <yofel> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:41] <yofel> then give me the link it returns
[20:41] <yofel> brb
[20:42] <tommaso> i can't download
[20:46] <tommaso> yofel ... i can't download
[20:49] <yofel> tommaso: then it's not connected to the net, ok. run instead:
[20:49] <yofel> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:49] <yofel> any lines with [EE] ?
[20:52] <tommaso> yofel don't exist
[20:52] <yofel> has to..., that's a zero in the name, not an O
[20:53] <tommaso> ok
[20:53] <tommaso> failed to load module "nv" molule don't exist
[20:54] <piedro> hello! i have a problem too ...
[20:54] <piedro> I deleted most of the i386 packages for multiarch support ...
[20:54] <tommaso> yofel failed to load module "nv" molule don't exist
[20:55] <yofel> tommaso: ok... anything else?
[20:55] <piedro> and now I don't know which ones were installed by default so I can add them again ...
[20:55] <tommaso> (II) loading extension mit-screen-saver
[20:55] <piedro> Does anyone know where to find the default package list?
[20:56] <tommaso> (II) xkb: reuse xbmfil va/lib/xkb/server-37814283823EE93942340.xkm yofel
[20:56] <yofel> tommaso: nah, II is fine
[20:57] <yofel> hm....
[20:57] <yofel> tommaso: you have an nvidia card?
[20:57] <tommaso> can return with ubuntu?
[20:57] <tommaso> yes have invidia card
[20:57] <tommaso> geforce  7300
[20:57] <yofel> tommaso: can you please run 'lsmod | grep nv'
[20:58] <yofel> does that have a line with nvidia in it?
[20:58] <tommaso> usage: lsmod
[20:58] <tommaso> yofel
[20:58] <yofel> what did you type in?
[21:01] <tommaso> ??
[21:01] <tommaso> yofel i don't undstand
[21:01] <yofel> what exactly did you type in? that's not what it should return
[21:02] <tommaso> return ---- Usage:lsmod
[21:02] <yofel> erm, please type in: lsmod | grep nv
[21:03] <tommaso> sorry
[21:03] <tommaso> nvidia 10390874
[21:03] <herayodin1> helo tommaso
[21:03] <yofel> good
[21:03] <tommaso> hi herayodin1
[21:06] <tommaso> now?
[21:08] <tommaso> yofel?
[21:09] <yofel> I'm thinking
[21:10] <herayodin1> a question hydra know how to use the application or set of backtrack
[21:10] <tommaso> but i come back at ubuntu?
[21:11] <yofel> tommaso: you could try to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[21:11] <yofel> and select lightdm at the dialog that comes up
[21:11] <yofel> if you reboot you might get the old login screen back
[21:12] <tommaso> ok
[21:12] <tommaso> reboot?
[21:12] <tommaso> ok
[21:15] <tommaso> yofel are blocked
[21:15] <yofel> blocked?
[21:15] <tommaso> starting cups printing spooler/server
[21:16] <yofel> ok, then we'll probably need the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log - can you somehow copy that from the system and pastebin that?
[21:16] <tommaso> ok
[21:16] <tommaso> one moment
[21:18] <tommaso> nothing ... the sistem are stopped
[21:18] <yofel> then I'm out of ideas for now, sorry - anyone else?
[21:19] <tommaso> can't return at tty or lightdm
[21:20] <tommaso> yofel
[21:21] <yofel> tommaso: as we're a bit short on people right now, you could ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners too
[21:22] <herayodin1> do not know if I can help with backtrack and use hydra or set
[21:22] <tommaso> ok
[21:24] <yofel> !backtrack | herayodin1
[21:25] <herayodin1> is about the use of dictionaries for messaging server attacks
[21:48] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: Pong
[22:34] <anderz> How do I restore the file/edit/window options on kubuntu. as they are now missing on dolphin/firefox/everywhere
[22:38] <Daskreech> anderz: ctrl+M ?
[22:39] <anderz> ty Daskreech how to make default?
[22:40] <Daskreech> anderz: Umm. Not sure why they aren't on by default. I always have to go around turning them offmanually
[22:43] <claydoh> in kde 4.7, they are off  by default with, ctrl-m should stick in dolphin , other apps may not have a menu (rekonq comes to mind)
[22:44] <Daskreech> Are they?
[22:44] <Daskreech> Hmm never noticed
[22:44] <claydoh> ya, in dolphin particularly
[22:44] <claydoh> not the whole OS tho
[22:44] <anderz> even missing in firefox
[22:44] <claydoh> rekonq iirc doesn't even have that menu, much like chrome
[22:45] <claydoh> its is the current trend
[22:46] <claydoh> odd my firefox has its file menu, I seldom use it
[22:46] <claydoh> something is amiss here
[22:46] <anderz> I cant see the menu or access bookmarks
[22:47] <claydoh> firefox doesn't follow KDE's menu structures
[22:48] <claydoh> hmm on firefox's toolbar area, try right-clicking to bring uo a dialog on what to show
[22:50] <anderz> if I push f10 the kde desktop crashes except for open windows and I can the missing file/edit/view/history/bookmarks on firef until i right click on desktop and kde returs
[22:50] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: I tried the sta driver, and it said it was installed and good to go, but it wouldn't let me enable wireless. I still have it activated(I believe)
[22:51] <Daskreech> anderz: What's F10 supposed to do?
[22:51] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: same sequence? card exists in lspci and in ifconfig -a but can't be turned on?
[22:53] <anderz> I think i hit it by accident going fullscreen (f11)
[22:53] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: let me try again
[22:54] <Daskreech> anderz: ah that makes sense :)
[22:54] <Linkmaster> Daskreech: nope, this time its because of RF-KILL
[22:57] <anderz> fixed firefox with 'help'  then 'restart with addons disabled' then on options 'reset toolbars and controls' and 'reset all usre pref to firef default'
[22:58] <anderz> think view toolbars/menubar was corrupt
[22:58] <anderz> need to restart
[23:03] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: You are getting an error for that?
[23:17] <mar_1> testing
[23:19] <drbobb> hey, when I go to system settings -> login manager -> themes: d/l new themes, and pick a few, it says they're installed, but they never appear in the settings module
[23:23] <Daskreech> drbobb: yeah a bug. You can work around it
[23:24] <drbobb> Daskreech: how?
[23:24] <Daskreech> Don't click on install click on the name and it will pull up the Website. pull the package and then on the screen before instead of clicking GHNS click install and point at the file
[23:25] <drbobb> okay, thx
[23:25] <drbobb> in the download mode, where is the theme package d/l'd to?
[23:28] <clara> My original user account was messed up because of a crash. I created a second account and moved the home folder of the original account into the documents folder of the new user. now i cannot run the original user and the new user account does not have sudo powers. how do i get a user account that has sudo power to fix this?
[23:29] <Daskreech> drbobb: Umm ~/.kde/share somthing ?
[23:29] <drbobb> yeah I looked all around but didn't find it
[23:29] <Daskreech> clara: do you have a live CD?
[23:30] <clara> Daskreech: no, i upgraded from 10.04 to 11 by internet
[23:30] <drbobb> oh and while you're there: I logged into a gnome session a couple times, and now I have a bunch of gnome gadgets autostarting at login. How do I get rid of them?
[23:30] <Daskreech> clara: Any live CD doesn't matter what version
[23:30] <clara> Daskreech: yes
[23:31] <clara> Daskreech: i have a live cd
[23:31] <Daskreech> clara: ok boot from that live CD and chroot to your install. Add your new user to the admin group
[23:31] <Daskreech> Or if you like reboot to single user mode
[23:31] <Daskreech> clara: That would be faster actually
[23:32] <clara> Daskreech: i am not sure what that means.
[23:33] <clara> Daskreech: how do i do this once the live cd is running
[23:33] <Daskreech> clara: you know when you reboot at the start you get a 5 second countdown to press any key to see the menu ?
[23:33] <Daskreech> The Grub Menu?
[23:34] <clara> yes
[23:34] <clara> Daskreech: yes
[23:35] <Daskreech> clara: OK well open that menu and edit the entry. All you want to do is add  the word 'single' at the very end of the line
[23:35] <Daskreech> Or if the menu already has a recovery mode entry jsut choose that
[23:36] <Daskreech> then you want to add the user to the group admin
[23:36] <clara> i get a screen that gives options like -- dpkg clean etc
[23:37] <Daskreech> is there one that says root menu?
[23:37] <Daskreech> or root shell ?
[23:37] <clara> Daskreech: yes
[23:37] <Daskreech> Ok choose that and run  usermod -a -G admin clara2
[23:38] <Daskreech> where clara2 is the name of your second user
[23:38] <clara> Daskreech: okay. i understand how to do that.
[23:38] <clara> Daskreech: thank you.
[23:39] <clara> Daskreech: brb
[23:41] <ven1ce_> hello, i installed the new kubuntu version. now i'm stuck with insane boot times... (in a bad way)
[23:41] <ven1ce_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/unicornoneiric201110231.png/
[23:41] <ven1ce_> bootchart of the system :/
[23:41] <ven1ce_> any ideas?
[23:46] <ven1ce_> certainly 150 seconds has to be a joke :/
[23:54] <Daskreech> ven1ce_: Why does Init take so long
[23:57] <ven1ce_> where else could i check ? :/
[23:58] <ven1ce_> http://pastebin.com/KpasWmSd
[23:59] <Daskreech> Not sure. that would be more #ubuntu-server than anyone else
[23:59] <ven1ce_> okay :/