[00:43] <intangir> i was running do-release-upgrade and i accidently hit ctrl-C and it CUT OUT OF THE WHOLE UPGRADE PROCESS after it had already halfway finished installing new packages....
[00:43] <intangir> now it still has a lock on my package system
[00:43] <intangir> and i cant restart the existing deal
[00:44] <urlin2u> intangir, try this command sudo apt-get -f install
[00:46] <urlin2u> intangir, maybe this one first  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:46] <intangir> doesnt work
[00:46] <intangir> let me try that one..
[00:46] <pangolin> delete the lock file
[00:46] <intangir> says its locked
[00:46] <intangir> it still shows the old process running in ps
[00:47] <pangolin> kill it
[00:47] <intangir> it shows a maasssiiiiive install, it was updating config files
[00:47] <intangir> can i recover it somehow?
[00:47] <intangir> it wasnt done
[00:47] <intangir> it found a diff between two config files, let me drop into a shell
[00:47] <intangir> said press exit when done..
[00:47] <intangir> so i started typing a command, typed it wrong, hit Ctrl-C
[00:47] <intangir> and it just EXITED OUT OF THE WHOLE THING....
[00:48] <pangolin> why are you yelling
[00:48] <intangir> normally it just aborts the current command, goes back to shell. same user, same privilege, same shell
[00:48] <pangolin> ctrl-c whether by mistake or not is supposed to cancel the running process.
[00:48] <intangir> but this time it aborted the entire root shell, the root install, the upgrade, the ... major system changing upgrade...
[00:48] <intangir> it was a running shell
[00:48] <intangir> normally it doesnt exit a shell
[00:49] <intangir> is there no way to recover the process? if its still running?
[00:53] <intangir> im pretty freaked out this is a really full featured server with dozens of important services...
[00:53] <intangir> and i apparently just botched the upgrade....
[00:55] <jbicha> intangir: try ps aux | grep dpkg or grep apt
[00:56] <jbicha> and then you can kill whatever processes those are (please don't complain to me if this doesn't help)
[00:56] <jbicha> and then try sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as needed until the upgrade finishes
[00:57] <intangir> this is why i hate upgrading....
[00:58] <intangir> that seems to have worked
[00:58] <intangir> what does that command do? reconfigure all the packages?
[00:59] <jbicha>  the first command should finish configuring the packages that are in the process of being installed
[00:59] <intangir> oh thats perfect
[00:59] <intangir> thanks man!!
[01:00] <jbicha> there's probably a bug there that should be reported and fixed...
[01:01] <jbicha> I had to take those steps because upgrading over ssh seems to be especially fragile
[01:02] <intangir> you really saved my ass
[01:02] <intangir> ya im upgrading over ssh, in screen..
[01:02] <intangir> but it wasnt a connection problem just .. weird bash normally doesnt exit on ctrl-C
[01:02] <intangir> it just aborts your current command
[01:03] <intangir> maybe it wasnt bash
[01:03] <jbicha> well maybe the upgrade script is wrong
[01:05] <intangir> anyway i got thru it, except 1 package failed for some reason, hasnt worked much lately anyway.. its zoneminder
[01:05] <intangir> guess i can just reinstall it after im done
[01:05] <intangir> i dont think the camera it monitors even works anymore anyway..
[01:05] <intangir> its very old
[01:06] <intangir> how do i see what version i have now
[01:08] <intangir> of ubuntu
[01:08] <jbicha> lsb_release -a
[01:10] <intangir> ok so i just went from lucid to maverick only, can i upgrade all the way to .. O? or is that not safe?
[01:10] <intangir> you supposed to upgrade 1 at a time?
[01:12] <jbicha> the only supported way is one at a time, except for LTS to LTS
[01:12] <intangir> oh ok
[01:12] <intangir> should i reboot between them also?
[01:12] <intangir> i havent rebooted,... this thing NEVER reboots hehe
[01:12] <intangir> its been on for like 1-2 years
[01:12] <jbicha> you should be fine, you won't get to use the new kernel without a reboot
[01:13] <intangir> my older server before this one, it COULDNT reboot anymore, the hardware was surged and the motherboard was broken, couldnt regulate some chips voltage to boot, but it ran like that for over a year before i noticed
[01:14] <dlbike76> Hi.  Is precise currently a mirror of oneiric-proposed?
[01:15] <urlin2u> dlbike76, what?
[01:17] <intangir> jbicha: i really appreciate all your help man
[01:17] <dlbike76> urlin2u:  I'm wondering about the packages in the precise archive.  Are they currently all the same as in the oneiric-proposed archive?
[01:17] <dlbike76> urlin2u:  I noticed that some are the same.
[01:18] <jbicha> dlbike76: no, some things in oneiric-proposed didn't land in precise yet
[01:18] <jbicha> and there's quite a bit in precise which will never be in oneiric-proposed
[01:19] <urlin2u> urlin2u, never heard of precise, could not tell if it was a language issue.
[01:20] <dlbike76> jbicha, urlin2u:  thanks!
[01:21] <dlbike76> I'm wondering if I can upgrade my test/development box without any major breakages.
[01:23] <jbicha> urlin2u: it's the development release that will eventually become Ubuntu 12.04
[01:23] <jbicha> !precise
[01:24] <urlin2u> jbicha, doh that makes sense.
[02:03] <intangir> would it have been too obvious to name it penguin? ;)
[02:45] <arand> intangir: Given an name like oneiric, what do you expect? :)
[02:52] <intangir> ya i dont even know what that is
[02:53] <intangir> onery oinker
[02:53] <intangir> thats what i wouldve named it
[02:53] <intangir> odiferous oinker ;)
[02:53] <intangir> hahahahaha
[02:58] <bazhang> !ot
[03:01] <intangir> oops we are disrupting the silence..
[03:10] <MTecknology> intangir: If you look up what a pangolin is, it'll make sense why that was decided instead of the obvious. off topic, but i wanted to at least mention that you should look up and see why it was decided
[03:19] <intangir> i read why before
[03:19] <intangir> something to do with it being able to survive lions ;)
[03:19] <intangir> and apple is making something named lion
[03:23] <urlin2u> intangir, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/784
[03:26] <intangir> i just hope they plan this one out
[03:26] <intangir> proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance of precise pangolin
[03:26] <urlin2u> intangir, how long have you been using open source?
[03:27] <intangir> for a while
[03:28] <urlin2u> intangir, your lack of a precise hehe answer gives you away.
[03:29] <intangir> gives away that im annoyed by your question and am deliberately giving you vague answers because i can only assume my answer will be followed by a comment based on too many assumptions?
[03:29] <intangir> or is that also too much of an assumption? why do you ask
[03:31] <urlin2u> intangir, exactly; a projection is what your expecting, so you answer in a way that seems to just be a projection itself. I was just curious, with 100's of open source distro's complaing seems seldf serving is all.
[03:31] <urlin2u> self*
[03:31] <urlin2u> help or find one that makes you happy.
[03:31] <intangir> oh i was just playing on the planning, i wanted an excuse to use a phrase with a plenthora of ps
[10:29] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: seems to be an upstream-bug, so the further communication will be done over the kernel mailinglist
[11:35] <Ian_Corne> ok
[17:54] <FernandoMiguel> good afternoon folks
[17:56] <yofel> hey
[18:02] <FernandoMiguel> I've rotated the screen (ATI) https://plus.google.com/photos/110410748911890496777/albums/5666373555072049745/5666373556336182354
[18:02] <FernandoMiguel> but the touchpad isn't rotating... while the mouse is
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> anyway to fix it ?
[18:12] <bjsnider> you goty a new laptop?
[18:15] <FernandoMiguel> no
[18:15] <FernandoMiguel> :(
[18:16] <FernandoMiguel> left it in the store to see if it can be "baked"
[18:21] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: I'm not sure there is a way to automatically rotate the input - which is a shame
[18:21] <FernandoMiguel> :(
[18:22] <escott> FernandoMiguel, you can probably manually rotate with xinput
[18:23] <penguin42> ooh yes
[18:24] <penguin42> there is a Coordinate Transformation Matrix listed as a property on my input device
[18:25] <FernandoMiguel> escott: no nice UI ?
[18:29] <escott> FernandoMiguel, im not aware of any UI that would expose things like a coord transform matrix, you should just make a script that will make the xrandr and xinput calls at the same time, or try to patch whatever gui you are using for xrandr to also make calls to xinput. but i doubt that would be accepted, you are doing something funky with your hardware :)
[18:31] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: It would be nice to automate - e.g. holding a laptop on its side to read an A4 page would be nice
[18:31] <FernandoMiguel> escott: using gnome-display-properties to rotate my screen is something  funky??
[18:31] <FernandoMiguel> seems really normal
[18:32] <escott> FernandoMiguel, rotating a laptop with a fixed keyboard to use it in vertical display is a bit funky
[18:32] <FernandoMiguel> ahah
[18:32] <penguin42> escott: It works well if you're just reading a doc
[18:32] <FernandoMiguel> well all this websites that want and demand more vertical space
[18:32] <escott> FernandoMiguel, before i looked at your photo i figured this was a tablet with a touchscreen display
[18:32] <FernandoMiguel> and waste horizontal
[18:32] <FernandoMiguel> escott: it's a regular 15.4" laptop
[18:32] <FernandoMiguel> with a fixed screen
[18:33] <penguin42> escott: Tablets are just keyboard deprived laptops :-)
[18:37] <escott> FernandoMiguel, the point is if the OS had some reason to expect that the touchpad was physically attached to the display (like a touchscreen) then it would be reasonable to expect it to be rotated with the display. but when the touchpad is a normal touchpad, from the OS perspective it might as well be an external touchpad plugged into a USB port. so I don't think you can reasonably expect the xrandr gui to rotate your touchpad with th
[18:37] <escott> e display
[18:38] <FernandoMiguel> :\
[18:38] <FernandoMiguel> I disagree.... but I can't do much about it
[18:39] <FernandoMiguel> already filed a bug two cicles ago.....
[18:39] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Hmm I bet you can write a simple shell script to do it
[18:40] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Given that xinput seems to be able to rotate it, and I think you could read an accelerometer or at least the gnome rotate info from somewhere you should be able to check it every few seconds
[18:40] <FernandoMiguel> ehe
[18:40] <escott> FernandoMiguel, I've never seen anyone do what you are doing. so I doubt its high on anyones priority list is all. your path of least resistance is to make yourself a couple scripts. one to rotate and one to unrotate. they are two-liners so it should be easy
[18:40] <FernandoMiguel> or just create an alias to do it everytime I rotate
[18:41] <FernandoMiguel> escott: I do... several times
[18:41] <FernandoMiguel> but I guess I'm special like that
[18:41]  * penguin42 has wanted to do it
[18:41] <FernandoMiguel> which doesn't mean more don't use it
[18:41] <FernandoMiguel> still weird we have such a visible option to do it in the screen properties
[18:41] <FernandoMiguel> but okay....
[18:42] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: It's not too unusual to do it on a screen on a non-laptop
[18:42] <FernandoMiguel> I remember 10 y ago to do it all the time on an intel card with wind XP.... ctrl+alt+ left/right key
[18:42] <penguin42> e.g. advertising displays and also big montiors on desks
[18:45] <FernandoMiguel> sure.... where I was working the desginers used DELL LCDs in portrait
[18:45] <FernandoMiguel> but those weren't stuck to a laptop :()
[18:45] <FernandoMiguel> I guess mine isn't a very common case
[18:46] <FernandoMiguel> I could open a poll in the forum or something
[18:46] <FernandoMiguel> but ICGA
[18:46] <histo> !entee
[18:46] <histo> !enter