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intangiri was running do-release-upgrade and i accidently hit ctrl-C and it CUT OUT OF THE WHOLE UPGRADE PROCESS after it had already halfway finished installing new packages....00:43
intangirnow it still has a lock on my package system00:43
intangirand i cant restart the existing deal00:43
urlin2uintangir, try this command sudo apt-get -f install00:44
urlin2uintangir, maybe this one first  sudo dpkg --configure -a00:46
intangirdoesnt work00:46
intangirlet me try that one..00:46
pangolindelete the lock file00:46
intangirsays its locked00:46
intangirit still shows the old process running in ps00:46
pangolinkill it00:47
intangirit shows a maasssiiiiive install, it was updating config files00:47
intangircan i recover it somehow?00:47
intangirit wasnt done00:47
intangirit found a diff between two config files, let me drop into a shell00:47
intangirsaid press exit when done..00:47
intangirso i started typing a command, typed it wrong, hit Ctrl-C00:47
intangirand it just EXITED OUT OF THE WHOLE THING....00:47
pangolinwhy are you yelling00:48
intangirnormally it just aborts the current command, goes back to shell. same user, same privilege, same shell00:48
pangolinctrl-c whether by mistake or not is supposed to cancel the running process.00:48
intangirbut this time it aborted the entire root shell, the root install, the upgrade, the ... major system changing upgrade...00:48
intangirit was a running shell00:48
intangirnormally it doesnt exit a shell00:48
intangiris there no way to recover the process? if its still running?00:49
intangirim pretty freaked out this is a really full featured server with dozens of important services...00:53
intangirand i apparently just botched the upgrade....00:53
jbichaintangir: try ps aux | grep dpkg or grep apt00:55
jbichaand then you can kill whatever processes those are (please don't complain to me if this doesn't help)00:56
jbichaand then try sudo dpkg --configure -a and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as needed until the upgrade finishes00:56
intangirthis is why i hate upgrading....00:57
intangirthat seems to have worked00:58
intangirwhat does that command do? reconfigure all the packages?00:58
jbicha the first command should finish configuring the packages that are in the process of being installed00:59
intangiroh thats perfect00:59
intangirthanks man!!00:59
jbichathere's probably a bug there that should be reported and fixed...01:00
jbichaI had to take those steps because upgrading over ssh seems to be especially fragile01:01
intangiryou really saved my ass01:02
intangirya im upgrading over ssh, in screen..01:02
intangirbut it wasnt a connection problem just .. weird bash normally doesnt exit on ctrl-C01:02
intangirit just aborts your current command01:02
intangirmaybe it wasnt bash01:03
jbichawell maybe the upgrade script is wrong01:03
intangiranyway i got thru it, except 1 package failed for some reason, hasnt worked much lately anyway.. its zoneminder01:05
intangirguess i can just reinstall it after im done01:05
intangiri dont think the camera it monitors even works anymore anyway..01:05
intangirits very old01:05
intangirhow do i see what version i have now01:06
intangirof ubuntu01:08
jbichalsb_release -a01:08
intangirok so i just went from lucid to maverick only, can i upgrade all the way to .. O? or is that not safe?01:10
intangiryou supposed to upgrade 1 at a time?01:10
jbichathe only supported way is one at a time, except for LTS to LTS01:12
intangiroh ok01:12
intangirshould i reboot between them also?01:12
intangiri havent rebooted,... this thing NEVER reboots hehe01:12
intangirits been on for like 1-2 years01:12
jbichayou should be fine, you won't get to use the new kernel without a reboot01:12
intangirmy older server before this one, it COULDNT reboot anymore, the hardware was surged and the motherboard was broken, couldnt regulate some chips voltage to boot, but it ran like that for over a year before i noticed01:13
dlbike76Hi.  Is precise currently a mirror of oneiric-proposed?01:14
urlin2udlbike76, what?01:15
intangirjbicha: i really appreciate all your help man01:17
dlbike76urlin2u:  I'm wondering about the packages in the precise archive.  Are they currently all the same as in the oneiric-proposed archive?01:17
dlbike76urlin2u:  I noticed that some are the same.01:17
jbichadlbike76: no, some things in oneiric-proposed didn't land in precise yet01:18
jbichaand there's quite a bit in precise which will never be in oneiric-proposed01:18
urlin2uurlin2u, never heard of precise, could not tell if it was a language issue.01:19
dlbike76jbicha, urlin2u:  thanks!01:20
dlbike76I'm wondering if I can upgrade my test/development box without any major breakages.01:21
jbichaurlin2u: it's the development release that will eventually become Ubuntu 12.0401:23
jbicha!precise01:23
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) will be the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/78401:23
urlin2ujbicha, doh that makes sense.01:24
intangirwould it have been too obvious to name it penguin? ;)02:03
arandintangir: Given an name like oneiric, what do you expect? :)02:45
intangirya i dont even know what that is02:52
intangironery oinker02:53
intangirthats what i wouldve named it02:53
intangirodiferous oinker ;)02:53
intangirhahahahaha02:53
bazhang!ot02:58
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intangiroops we are disrupting the silence..03:01
MTecknologyintangir: If you look up what a pangolin is, it'll make sense why that was decided instead of the obvious. off topic, but i wanted to at least mention that you should look up and see why it was decided03:10
intangiri read why before03:19
intangirsomething to do with it being able to survive lions ;)03:19
intangirand apple is making something named lion03:19
urlin2uintangir, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/78403:23
intangiri just hope they plan this one out03:26
intangirproper prior planning prevents piss poor performance of precise pangolin03:26
urlin2uintangir, how long have you been using open source?03:26
intangirfor a while03:27
urlin2uintangir, your lack of a precise hehe answer gives you away.03:28
intangirgives away that im annoyed by your question and am deliberately giving you vague answers because i can only assume my answer will be followed by a comment based on too many assumptions?03:29
intangiror is that also too much of an assumption? why do you ask03:29
urlin2uintangir, exactly; a projection is what your expecting, so you answer in a way that seems to just be a projection itself. I was just curious, with 100's of open source distro's complaing seems seldf serving is all.03:31
urlin2uself*03:31
urlin2uhelp or find one that makes you happy.03:31
intangiroh i was just playing on the planning, i wanted an excuse to use a phrase with a plenthora of ps03:31
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icerootIan_Corne: seems to be an upstream-bug, so the further communication will be done over the kernel mailinglist10:29
Ian_Corneok11:35
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FernandoMiguelgood afternoon folks17:54
yofelhey17:56
FernandoMiguelI've rotated the screen (ATI) https://plus.google.com/photos/110410748911890496777/albums/5666373555072049745/566637355633618235418:02
FernandoMiguelbut the touchpad isn't rotating... while the mouse is18:02
FernandoMiguelanyway to fix it ?18:03
bjsnideryou goty a new laptop?18:12
FernandoMiguelno18:15
FernandoMiguel:(18:15
FernandoMiguelleft it in the store to see if it can be "baked"18:16
penguin42FernandoMiguel: I'm not sure there is a way to automatically rotate the input - which is a shame18:21
FernandoMiguel:(18:21
escottFernandoMiguel, you can probably manually rotate with xinput18:22
penguin42ooh yes18:23
penguin42there is a Coordinate Transformation Matrix listed as a property on my input device18:24
FernandoMiguelescott: no nice UI ?18:25
escottFernandoMiguel, im not aware of any UI that would expose things like a coord transform matrix, you should just make a script that will make the xrandr and xinput calls at the same time, or try to patch whatever gui you are using for xrandr to also make calls to xinput. but i doubt that would be accepted, you are doing something funky with your hardware :)18:29
penguin42FernandoMiguel: It would be nice to automate - e.g. holding a laptop on its side to read an A4 page would be nice18:31
FernandoMiguelescott: using gnome-display-properties to rotate my screen is something  funky??18:31
FernandoMiguelseems really normal18:31
escottFernandoMiguel, rotating a laptop with a fixed keyboard to use it in vertical display is a bit funky18:32
FernandoMiguelahah18:32
penguin42escott: It works well if you're just reading a doc18:32
FernandoMiguelwell all this websites that want and demand more vertical space18:32
escottFernandoMiguel, before i looked at your photo i figured this was a tablet with a touchscreen display18:32
FernandoMigueland waste horizontal18:32
FernandoMiguelescott: it's a regular 15.4" laptop18:32
FernandoMiguelwith a fixed screen18:32
penguin42escott: Tablets are just keyboard deprived laptops :-)18:33
escottFernandoMiguel, the point is if the OS had some reason to expect that the touchpad was physically attached to the display (like a touchscreen) then it would be reasonable to expect it to be rotated with the display. but when the touchpad is a normal touchpad, from the OS perspective it might as well be an external touchpad plugged into a USB port. so I don't think you can reasonably expect the xrandr gui to rotate your touchpad with th18:37
escotte display18:37
FernandoMiguel:\18:38
FernandoMiguelI disagree.... but I can't do much about it18:38
FernandoMiguelalready filed a bug two cicles ago.....18:39
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Hmm I bet you can write a simple shell script to do it18:39
penguin42FernandoMiguel: Given that xinput seems to be able to rotate it, and I think you could read an accelerometer or at least the gnome rotate info from somewhere you should be able to check it every few seconds18:40
FernandoMiguelehe18:40
escottFernandoMiguel, I've never seen anyone do what you are doing. so I doubt its high on anyones priority list is all. your path of least resistance is to make yourself a couple scripts. one to rotate and one to unrotate. they are two-liners so it should be easy18:40
FernandoMiguelor just create an alias to do it everytime I rotate18:40
FernandoMiguelescott: I do... several times18:41
FernandoMiguelbut I guess I'm special like that18:41
* penguin42 has wanted to do it18:41
FernandoMiguelwhich doesn't mean more don't use it18:41
FernandoMiguelstill weird we have such a visible option to do it in the screen properties18:41
FernandoMiguelbut okay....18:41
penguin42FernandoMiguel: It's not too unusual to do it on a screen on a non-laptop18:42
FernandoMiguelI remember 10 y ago to do it all the time on an intel card with wind XP.... ctrl+alt+ left/right key18:42
penguin42e.g. advertising displays and also big montiors on desks18:42
FernandoMiguelsure.... where I was working the desginers used DELL LCDs in portrait18:45
FernandoMiguelbut those weren't stuck to a laptop :()18:45
FernandoMiguelI guess mine isn't a very common case18:45
FernandoMiguelI could open a poll in the forum or something18:46
FernandoMiguelbut ICGA18:46
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