[01:37] <cdunlap> when you do a patch using quilt...
[01:37] <cdunlap> Can you make your change, build it, then go back into the same patch to fix it or do you need to create another patch?
[01:38] <cdunlap> I guess my question is, can you add to an existing patch?
[02:27] <cdunlap> nvm, I figured it out.
[02:27] <pLpB> Hello
[02:27] <cdunlap> Hi
[02:27] <pLpB> Good night, day, afternoon in your respectives countrys
[02:29] <cdunlap> To you as well
[02:30] <pLpB> (:
[02:31] <pLpB> Who is programmer here?
[02:31] <cdunlap> I'm not sure on that to be honest, I am not one (at least not a very good one).
[02:33] <pLpB> Oh. (:
[02:33] <pLpB> So you work with what?
[02:36] <cdunlap> Right now I am just doing the small, or bitsize, bug fixes to try and increase my skill level.  So really, I am just doing small cosmetic work.
[03:12] <mase_work> cdunlap: it all helps
[03:13] <cdunlap> mase: I appreciate that
[03:13] <pLpB> Did you guys already check my new, small project pBreak?
[03:14] <pLpB> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkUWBMkSdns
[03:15] <mase_work> cool. not sure if you are aware but thre are desktop tools to record your desktop
[03:16] <mase_work> so you don't have to hold a camcorder up to your screen
[03:16] <pLpB> Yeah, I know
[03:16] <pLpB> It's the recordmyDesktop does'nt work propertly on my Oneiric
[03:16] <pLpB> :/
[03:16] <pLpB> Start with some lags
[03:17] <mase_work> really ? i don't have that issue, i made a recording just yesterday
[03:17] <mase_work> mind you i am not running unity
[03:17] <pLpB> Oh
[03:17] <pLpB> Maybe thats the problema
[03:17] <pLpB> * problem
[03:17] <pLpB> But, I'ts strange
[03:17] <pLpB> Cause I already has seen another videos recorded with rmd and works normally
[03:48] <cdunlap> I know this has nothing to do with the channel, but what do you guys/girls use for a chat client?
[04:09] <jbicha> !irc | cdunlap
[12:03] <jtaylor> where does lplib place all its cache?
[12:04] <jtaylor> found it  ~/.launchpadlib
[12:05] <jtaylor> should use .cache :/
[12:06] <Zhenech> where do I report a bug against, when the update kills accesibility settings and makes the machine unusable for the user?
[12:07] <jtaylor> which package was updated?
[12:08] <Zhenech> ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10
[18:04] <jtaylor> wasn't Werror=format-security enabled in debian too?
[18:04] <jtaylor> lots of build failures in ubuntu, but not in debian due to it :/
[18:07] <Laney> flags aren't exported to the enviroment by dpkg-buildpackage in debian
[18:07] <Laney> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/09/msg00001.html
[18:07] <jtaylor> and in ubuntu they are?
[18:08] <Laney> yep
[18:08] <jtaylor> yey more ubuntu diffs and wishlist bug filings ._.
[18:34] <debfx> why do we need to export the flags in dpkg-buildpackage anyway? aren't the hardening flags enabled in gcc/ld?
[19:00] <jtaylor> you may want to disable hardening for some situations
[19:00] <jtaylor> this is done easiest via dpkg-buildflags
[19:00] <jtaylor> e.g. some of them have performance impact
[19:21] <jtaylor> the exporting also shows other bugs
[19:21] <jtaylor> a couple of packages cannot handle more than one CFLAG due to wrong quoting ^^
[20:02] <dupondje> Is 12.04 open yet for merge/sync requests ? :)
[20:04] <jtaylor> yes
[20:05] <jtaylor> but preferably only from testing
[20:07] <dupondje> lets do some then :)
[20:42] <Laney> i wonder why we fixed a bashism in a file that starts #!/bin/bash :-)
[20:57] <tumbleweed> debfx: they aren't in GCC in debian. And we didn't want to do it like that in debian. Thus the attenion on build flags
[21:14] <tumbleweed> oh, bdrung, re syncpackage walking history. One can't do it without having both changelogs. The SPPH records don't match up with changelog entries
[21:14] <tumbleweed> the comman base ancestor is available from MoM, but I wouldn't want to depend on that (I assume MoM doesn't run *that* often)
[21:15] <bdrung> tumbleweed: we can't get the changelog version out of an SPPH?
[21:15] <tumbleweed> each SPPH entry can represent more than one changelog entry
[21:17] <bdrung> hm, could we pull the changelog in another way from launchpad?
[21:17] <tumbleweed> not yet, although there's an open bug for some of that...
[23:23] <wgrant> tumbleweed, bdrung: Do you have a bug number for exposing the changelog?
[23:25] <tumbleweed> wgrant: bug 833384
[23:29] <wgrant> tumbleweed: Thanks.
[23:30] <tumbleweed> API access to the ubuntu changelog would also be handy, although not part of that bug...
[23:31] <tumbleweed> every ubuntu upload used to have a changes file that gave indirect changelog access, that's no longer the case
[23:32] <wgrant> Yeah, and it's about four lines of code to provide it for all SPPHs.
[23:32] <wgrant> Testing now...
[23:32] <tumbleweed> thanks:)
[23:33] <wgrant> tumbleweed: Which API version does syncpackage use at the moment?
[23:33] <wgrant> devel?
[23:33] <tumbleweed> yes