[00:02] <JanC> RoyK: it's an issue with how update-grub for "grub 1" works; this should be fixed with "grub 2" though
[00:03] <RoyK> JanC: last I checked, new installs with lucid used grub 2
[00:03] <JanC> grub 2 doesn't use menu.lst
[00:04] <RoyK> JanC: all pf the machines with this problem are installed with lucid from scrach
[00:04] <RoyK> all of, even
[00:05] <JanC> the bug you pointed to is for grub 1 & menu.lst, so if you have an issue with grub 2 it must be another bug...
[00:06] <JanC> RoyK: are you sure you're using grub 2?
[00:07] <RoyK> bug 873198873198
[00:07] <RoyK> bug 873198
[00:09] <RoyK> JanC: 873198 is the one I'm seeing
[00:09] <JanC> that's talking about an upgrade, which keeps grub1 in MBR unless you install grub2 manually?
[00:10] <RoyK> neither of my machines are upgraded
[00:10] <RoyK> all basic lucid installs
[00:10] <JanC> I doubt this is really a duplicate
[00:11] <JanC> grub.cfg should never be edited manually
[00:11] <JanC> as all the config is elsewhere
[00:12] <JanC> so there is no reason for debconf to not update it?
[00:12] <RoyK> well, grub.cfg seems to be the thing that chooses the kernel
[00:13] <RoyK> and that doesn't seem to be upgraded
[00:13] <RoyK> or updated
[00:13] <JanC> grub.cfg is auto-generated by update-grub (for grub2)
[00:13] <RoyK> should-be-auto-generated
[00:13] <JanC> alle the configuration about what should go into it is under /etc
[00:14] <RoyK> JanC: I have a one year old grub.cfg
[00:14] <RoyK> on several servers
[00:14] <JanC> RoyK: I'm not saying there can't be a bug, I'm saying it can't be the same bug as that grub1/menu.lst bug  ☺
[00:15] <RoyK> agreed
[00:15] <JanC> so the duplicate status is wrong IMO
[00:15] <RoyK> yep
[00:16] <elz89> Did anyone see my 'apt-get update' problem earlier on a new install on oneiric?
[00:16] <JanC> jdstrand: ^^^ you might want to look at that again  ☺
[00:18] <RoyK> JanC: how can you revoke a duplication?
[00:18] <JanC> jdstrand: RoyK's bug report #873198
[00:20] <JanC> RoyK: I guess by pressing the edit button before the "Duplicate of bug #..." in the sidebar?
[00:21] <JanC> RoyK: it's possible that for some reason update-grub thinks that grub1 is still used, or whatever
[00:22] <RoyK> how could  that be, when lucid is installed?
[00:22] <JanC> or for some other reason it thinks grub2 is not used
[00:23] <JanC> well, you can use grub2, grub1, lilo, and a couple of other bootloaders in lucid
[00:24] <JanC> I guess there is some logic somewhere to detect what's used, and there might be a bug somewhere in that logic (just guessing)
[00:24] <JanC> or there might be another reason
[00:25] <JanC> if your /boot is on a separate partition, you might want to make sure grub knows that
[00:36] <foenix> rcsheets: this is the worst day of my computing life
[00:53] <Patrickdk> royk, grub1 was default in lucid, till 10.04.2 I believe, then grub2 became default
[01:34] <Demosthenes> so i have usb2 mass storage devices going offline using usb3 ports. they just stop, or say "Buffer I/O error" and go offline.
[03:24] <elz89> why does 'apt-get update' fail on new install of oneiric?
[03:31] <elz89> When I run 'apt-get update' the last package has a hash error, but this is a fresh install on oneiric? I don't understand why this is happening? Can someone please shed some light on the matter?
[03:32] <Ursinha> elz89, what's the package?
[03:34] <elz89> Ursinha: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:36] <Ursinha> elz89, it seems people are having this problem, check this out and see if that helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11377550
[03:36] <Ursinha> cdrom line seems to be uncommented
[03:37] <Ursinha> is that your case elz89?
[03:40] <elz89> Ursinha: yes, and I have it twice at the top of sources.list?
[03:45] <Ursinha> elz89, both are uncommented? and it's a fresh install?
[03:56] <elz89> Ursinha: correct :-)
[04:31] <elz89> Ursinha: Do you know what I should do?
[07:14] <pdtpatrick_> what version of python is on ubuntu 10.04 server?
[07:39] <andol> pdtpatrick_: Default version is Python 2.6.5.
[09:06] <al-maisan> Hello there! I have a daemon running on 3 machines (32 cores, 64 GB RAM each) and it gets restarted (via SIGHUP) on all 3 in a timespan of 5 minutes. I am trying to find out who and why triggered the restart. Any advice on that?
[09:14] <andol> al-maisan: logrotate script?
[09:14] <Halitus> Hi, Is it possible to install ubuntu server to a usb stick? what about as a persistent Live version?
[09:15] <al-maisan> andol: are you saying some kind of logrotate script is restarting the daemons?
[09:17] <andol> al-maisan: Well, I am suggesting you look into the possibility of that happening.
[09:18] <al-maisan> andol: I see, I will have a look. Thanks!
[09:30] <Halitus> Hi new question. Am i able to put the swap on a software raid array?
[09:33] <ersi> al-maisan: It's highly likely that it's logrotate, it usually SIGHUP's daemons when it has logrotated (so the daemon open a new fd to write its log to)
[09:35] <al-maisan> ersi: should I see the daemon in question mentioned somewhere in /etc/logrotate.d/** in that case?
[09:36] <al-maisan> what is puzzling me that when I look at /etc/logrotate.d/ there is no mention of the daemon that gets restarted (celeryd), "grep -i -r celery /etc/logrotate.d" draws a blank
[09:37] <ersi> HM.
[09:37] <ersi> Hm.*
[12:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> looking for a way to turn of or change time of screensave (black screen) server 11.10 were is config file?
[13:16] <www2> hi can someone helpme with my dovecot setup?
[13:16] <www2> i get this error: doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 50: Unknown setting: unix_listener
[13:19] <www2> and this is my dovecot.conf http://pastebin.com/rHLL5WAK
[13:29] <www2> hi anny one that can help with a config problem in dovecot?
[13:50] <adler100> hi. im searching for a tool to log the system utilization while i would like to attack my apache server via a ddos attack (Byte Range Header) running on ubuntu 11.10. This is for a special school work. Im asking because it is possible that the pc will freeze while the attack is running.
[13:51] <RoyK> adler100: sysstat/sar?
[13:53] <adler100> and it is possible to log these informations for a special process?
[14:00] <RoyK> adler100: I don't think sar/sysstat can do that
[14:03] <adler100> ok
[14:03] <adler100> i found one: its called logwatch
[14:05] <RoyK> lol
[14:13] <jamespage> www2 - from memory I thing that the unix_listener setting has to be within an auth service block
[14:13] <jamespage> as it is on line 38
[14:14] <www2> thx
[14:19] <Zerpy> Hia guys, I'm installing Ubuntu Server 32bit 11.10 at the moment.. Then I get to the GRUB install, and it wants me to write where the boot loader should be installed.. atm it writes "/dev/mapper" in the textbox :S
[14:21] <qman__> using fakeraid?
[14:21] <qman__> if so, don't
[14:22] <Zerpy> I made the raid0 via my bios
[14:22] <qman__> turn that off and just use the software
[14:22] <qman__> you _can_ use it, but it'll just make things messy, exemplified above
[14:23] <qman__> and offers no advantages over mdadm
[14:24] <Zerpy> So when I install ubuntu server I should make the Partitions manually instead?
[14:24] <RoyK> Zerpy: really, software raid is better
[14:24] <Zerpy> which means? :p
[14:26] <RoyK> Zerpy: turn off that fakeraid, create partitions manually for use with raid. I usually create three partitions, same size, on each disk, one small (1GB) for /boot (ext2), one for swap (=RAM size) and the rest for / (ext4). Flag those partitions to be used for RAID, then choose "configure RAID", create three mirrors, go back, and place filesystems on the RAID devices as needed
[14:26] <RoyK> then again, the layout is your choice, I just posted what I usually do
[14:31] <Zerpy> I followed ur tip :D Thank you
[14:34] <Zerpy> when I did try to save the settings it said that sda3 and sdb3 couldn't run on same 'location' :S
[17:15] <aleksei`> !flash
[17:18] <van7hu> hi folks, I am creating an irc on my lan, I could connect to server from client, but alway got disconnect soon after, I am using ircd-hybrid, any suggestion?
[17:18] <van7hu> s/irc/irc server/
[17:27] <qman__> check server logs for any errors, see if there's a way to enable more verbose logging on the ircd
[18:08] <koolhead17> hi all
[18:32] <elz89> !daap
[19:15] <wo0f> yo
[19:15] <wo0f> does 32bit use less memory to run apps?
[19:16] <wo0f> like would a ubuntu32 vm be better(allow more usable memory)?
[19:18] <qman__> no, not really
[19:18] <qman__> if you're running 32-bit applications, 64-bit requires 32-bit libraries along with 64-bit ones
[19:18] <qman__> so technically it does use a little more, and makes more available, but not to any significant degree
[19:20] <qman__> use whatever is best suited to your application
[19:48] <Patrickdk> wo0f, technically, if you app uses lots of pointers, yes, 32bit would save memory
[19:48] <Patrickdk> but the cost of switching from 64bit to 32bit and back normally makes it better to just stick with 64bit for everything
[19:49] <wo0f> Patrickdk, rgr
[20:03] <koolhead17> 64 bits ++
[21:25] <zerpex> anyone here that ever played with the s3cmd script? for sending files to amazon s3?
[21:49] <Frank_> Hey, I have an issue - my remote Ubuntu server hangs with   unloading iptables modules and I can't do anything about it.